I switched from palm grip to fingertip grip and noticed a big improvement in aim, especially because I could use smaller mice. It's something that takes a long while to adjust to, so I would recommend people using palm or claw palm give it a try.
Also note on that point with the fingers raised off the mouse ... the higher they are, the longer they have to travel, so the "slower" your latency times are going to be. That's like playing with a higher ping!
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Now how do I grip my gaming chair with my butt cheeks correctly? ??
Lmao best comment bruhh
@@jobmorales3492 🤣
Lol I cracked up.when I saw dat
No undies or pants
nice spelling
At this point I don't know if I am breathing correctly.
Then you should do mewing
qp Does that shape your jawline too?
@@Hydrasito yes, you will get even hollow cheeks if u swallow correctly
qp Thank you, I'll try it
@@Hydrasito kzhead.info/sun/YNWahquKbWp8fpE/bejne.html its a very good a video about it, if u have any questions feel free to ask me
wow. thank you for the help. been holding mouses backwards this whole time.
:D
Lol
I won’t be racist
Good self restraint Nico, I’m proud of you!
I’m Blocking you
This shed so much light in an area I never thought to actually look when improving my aim. Its making me think with common sense.
So basically people with 2 thumbs or 6 fingers have an advantage. Sounds like im visiting chernobyl soon
mango building a gaming house in Pripyat sounds promising.
He sound rusian
Soon? not great,not terrible
This made me laugh so hard xD
what if u loose one instead
Whenever I started thinking about my grip style, my aim would get worse. Now I don't think about it and it's much better that way.
This. I fell into this trap like 5 years ago and couldn't let go of it until like 1 year ago. Whenever i played bad I worried about my grip and I always tried to adjust and everything just felt awkward.
@@PersonMeetup I don't know what mouse you're using now, and how big your hands are.. but yes, definitely try a smaller mouse if you haven't! Even in palm I still find smaller mice easier to control (now using the CM mm710, can recommend!)
@@PersonMeetup model 0- is a good choice for that
Yeah, just use your natural grip
Yes
This is an excellent tutorial, completely re thinking the way I grip my Final Mouse now!
Very difficult to get used to but I am glad i didn't give up, and my aim has improved. Thanks for the video, short but effective to get the point across.
Hi Zy. I just got the Odin o- in the mail after my fk2 broke. I'm loving it so far and it is thanks to you and your videos that I decided to get a smaller mouse so that I can use fingertip-grip after using claw-grip for 1.5years. I just want to thank you on behalf off the whole gaming community for all the mouse and gaming related tips that you give us. You are truly amazing!! Love from Sweden
The fingertip grip has always felt most natural option to me. Having your fingers resting on the buttons is a great piece of advice as it minimizes your input delay. As an avid fps fan (I've been playing PC shooters for 20 years) I absolutely love your channel.
what mouse do u use
@@toystar3294 Right now, the Logitech G Pro Wireless. At the time of writing this comment, Steelseries Rival 100. Still the same grip. 😁
when i first got a Model D- my first instinct was to palm it, but after hours of playing i adopted a fingertip grip without thinking about it i guess its comfier than keeping your hand wrapped strictly around the shape of the mouse
@Emmy the palm is sitting above the mouse but it doesn't touch it. I'm not sure how to call it, maybe it's a hybrid grip between fingertip and palm?
@@andreidmny it's called relaxed claw grip. Very popular grip but not mentioned alot
Coincidentally I switched from my old deathadder to a G Pro Wireless and automatically adapted a similar grip to “finger”. Without a cord increasing drag Im able to micro adjust easier. This video solidifies my beliefs--so thanks!
BRO that tip to use fingertip or claw is NEXT GEN. i was always palm and having a bad time with aim and consistency and stuff but now we gucc. thanks so much man
For palm grip, for it to be properly effective you need to use your full arm to aim, mixing in alongside of wrist movements. Doing this fixes the issue of vertical adjustments, as well as helps with longer movements for lower sensitivities.
don't worry about grip's efficiency, it's all about your arm control and unique control parts of arm. For example ins destroys 99% of aimers and he uses palm grip (after 2 years, yeah...)
I wonder how people can even use palm grip without massively overshooting at the button end with their fingers.
@@HappyBeezerStudios try deathadder. Not mini. Its a big mouse
I agree with this as I actually use palm grip myself; you are basically lowering your sensitivity and when you are finding targets you are using your whole arm. Once you get close to a target then you use all of the subtle adjustments that he shows in the video... I can still make those adjustments with a palm grip, it's just I have to move my wrist/etc. MUCH less than I see people do with finger/claw (which in my experience leads to less fatigue and ZERO pain or discomfort). Even with lower sensitivities those larger arm movements allow you to cover the distance of your pad much faster which helps with things like a 180. You have to have a larger mousepad if you are using your arm, but for obvious reasons that is something people do regardless of grip.
@@HappyBeezerStudios , I agree with G.K. here 100%. I use palm grip and a deathadder. Typically people who use palm grip ike the feel of this mouse in their hand, and it being a larger mouse means I NEVER have to worry about my fingers the end of it. Even more interesting though is in the video where he was talking about having to move your index over for scroll wheel; with this setup my index finger does NOT need to move to do so... I simply curve my index finger and it naturally will scroll. It makes me think of how in the video he talks about the side buttons, and how you do not have to move your thumb to hit them, but rather you are using either the tip (which is like the index click) or bend at the joint (scroll). Same concept. Another important thing to mention is that due to the size of my hand the heel of my palm is on the mouse pad and NOT on the mouse itself; technically it is still a palm grip since half of my palm is in contact with the mouse, but my hand isn't choked up against it where there isn't any room to adjust vertically. Now, if I had smaller hands I would not be able to do that, and would not be able to adjust any vertically (just like we saw the demonstration in the video!). So I would assume hand size has a lot to do with this as well. I hope this explains it a bit. =)
Lots of grips to try, I always believed that whatever suits you is going to be good for you.
wow what a shocker XD
this is a good starting point: kzhead.info/sun/fK1veNp-o4iJqmg/bejne.html
you can think of mouse grips as handwriting. It’s natural, but it can be practiced
The right grip is the one you use without even thinking about it.
Unless ur going pro or ur real competitive it really doesn't matter too much, comfort matters more
Thanks so much i was using palm claw grip from a long time now when i started playing rainbow six siege i though faced no issue in aiming problem was i was not comfortable to control recoil due to inability to moving mouse down accurately... Now changing my grip style to what you mentioned in the video... Iam happy your video helped me
my friend showed me this video. i used to palm grip with my deathadder, but after i watched this i tried fingertip with my new GPW and my aim has improved tremendously. thank u Zy.
Was a Fingertip Grip user in 2017, then switched to Claw Grip in 2018.. Then suddently last month i kinda changed and tried using palm grip and i surely think i found the grip for me... I aim so much easier with it.. i've been using fingertip and claw for so long that when i changed to palm, i already have really good micro adjustments, and wrist control but now with palm... i don't have any errors what so ever when i aim or flick to check an angle, as if the palm was the missing link.. I can see so much improvements using palm compared to when i was using claw.. I can even flick my mouse faster, more accurate and with less tension now..
i think the mic for this video sounds just fine! love the vids zy, on all your channels
Thanks man, I decreased my response time by 100 ms. My accuracy is also greatly improved
I love the Diamondback mention! I have the same grip because of that mouse!
Zy, something to consider regarding anchors points. Higher sensitivity wrist aimers tend to have their wrist/lower palm serve as an anchor point. Low sensitivity players commonly use their forearm as an anchor point instead. If you tried to predominately aim with your arm and use your wrist as an anchor point there would be too much drag and friction to accomplish this seamlessly. So the anchor point changes based on context, but it still exists. Edit: Also, the mouse wheel is one reference guide for finger placement, but so are the side buttons. I find that if my thumb is misaligned with the side buttons then I have to adjust my grip to access them during game, which can throw my aim off. In fact, a good indicator that a mouse is properly sized for my hand is that I can comfortably access the side buttons and the mouse wheel simultaneously instead of prioritizing one at the expense of the other, as I found myself doing when I used smaller mice such as the original G Pro.
Palm grip tends to work well for when people use very low sensitivity and play games that do not have a lot of vertical camera motion. The ADS sens of a lot of a good Battlefield 4 infantry players can be as low as 60-120cm, and the majority of them are palm grippers.
Yes the majority of the Best BF4 players play with palm and that’s what got me using palm
Yeah no I play on 1600 dpi (palm grip) and 0.081 ingame sensitivity
Is BF4 still a thing? Just thought it was weird to use that game when that was like 3 Battlefield games ago in the series, and they all are the same in terms of aim mechanics.
@@libertyprime9307 It's only sorta a thing. And while most of the mechanics are the same, the gameplay isn't as skill based as it once was, so much of that portion of the community never really got into 1 and 5
200dpi, 2.8 sens, palmgrip with a deathadder 2013 on csgo
I actually followed your tips and I improved by a whole lot -- It's not just a matter of "preference".
it still is a matter of preference, this video just gave you more options and now your preference has changed, that's all. Your grip still depends on the size of the mouse though, maybe you were trying to palm a smaller mouse and now realize it's easier to claw it.
I took your advice and switched to a small mouse (model o-) and fingertip. I've used it for around 4 months now and the extra vertical ROM is nice but you sacrifice stability. I realized I was struggling with micro adjustment accuracy so I tried going back to my model o so I could rest my pinky and ring knuckle on the mouse. This gave me a lot of stability and decreased the range of motion of my fingers. I can still aim with my fingers though just not as far but it is far more accurate. Small mouse with fingertip definitely has its advantages but it makes precision a bit harder. I've tried just about every possible grip for a couple months each and they all had their pros and cons but it never mattered what I used I still performed at about the same level and improved over time. Beyond being comfortable I don't think grip really makes much of a difference at all.
Thanks Zy, can you please update the top 40 now? :D
@@lukemullan789 Ah that explains everything, ty
@Matthew That's why he says to not pay too much attention to the #/rank of a mouse and pay more attention to the specs/dimensions of it and whether it would be a good fit for you and your hand. Really ranking them is more about ranking them for himself rather than for anyone else.
@Matthew u can go to find a mouse :)
I used to have really good aim with a palm grip on the deathadder. I tried different grips and the palm grip gave me the best aim and comfort.
Ghanem__q8 Same, I have a very good aim on CSGO with palm grip and deathadder 2016 model. Played on ESEA with pros too. Different grips will only differentiate the pros from the elite really. Its just like improves your aim max 1-5%.
Thank you! You have inspired me to do other grips bc I am palming a g 402 but I will be palm-clawing/ clawing a razer viper ultimate. Thanks!
i used to play only claw grip fow like 10 years on my gaming life, then i started to practice the finger tip and palm grip and right now my main grip is the fingertip, good video bro !!
Fingertip is best, but so tiring
Thanks for making this Video
Ooooo looks like a new setup!!! Any plans on an updated setup tour?
I appreciate your experience and skills, they helped me to buy a mouse, I didn't know how to approach the choice of a mouse, thanks to you I made the right choice, and it works....
Thank you for the video. I lost stuff that I learned without noticing it(and I was not even good, still) after a hand injury, so I am just trying to get at least somehow back into the groove.
I personally use palm-claw, a lot of these micro adjustments are moved within the fingertips, and having good crosshair placement can eliminate a lot of the issue, ive also NEVER seen someone curl their fingers inward to hit a shot below their crosshair, or extend their fingers outwards on an angle to hit a angled flick, always flick their wrist/arm for shots, far range sure move with fingers but close/medium range no.
There are many great palm users. Many palm aimers are pro players
ExoGhost you come here often
lmao one of his videos is 2 up on my recommended
Depends on the game, like csgo damn near all of them are palm grip
the tf makes sense since most aiming in cs is horizontal, you don't need to move the mouse up and down much
@@thetf8142 nope thats the game where almost all are claw
Hey, I really enjoyed the vid, I was originally a palm gripper playing r6s, but I switched to fingertips and instantly an improvement on my horizontal aim, it will take a little getting used to for vertical aiming, and maybe some sensitivity adjusting, but otherwise, it has really helped me 10/10 would recommend.
Thank you for the vid this helped me right off the bat, I am new to mouse and keyboard and I was holding my mouse (model O which I now know I don’t like the shape of) by anchoring my pinky on the mouse pad. This caused me to apply so much downforce to control that it was sliding the pads out of place. Ordered a mp55 mousepad to try out and I’m going to wait for the vaxee to come in stock and try that out. I appreciate the quality content.. Cheers!
Just wanted to note that palm claw is better for reaction times. So if you are holding an angle where you do not have to move much, it is actually better. I use claw grip except when I am holding an AWP angle in CS where I use palm claw. Higher knuckle while touching mouse button 1 increases reaction time.
Thanks for that breakdown. I always thought I was a second class citizen with aiming due to being a life-long fingertip gripper. I recall your original FK-2 review which got you to switch grips - it coincidentally also got me the first mouse suited to my hand in over 10 years, so that's appreciated.
Thank you i have been using touch pad for most of fps games switching to mouse was hard first it was hard and then it was easier this healped alot
Bro, you're so good at providing instructions on how to grip a mouse, I can see you selling methods on your to grip your
"Sensei ten" released today. hope for a review :) thanks for all of your review !!
you should buy a white XXL mousepads for your reviews, would be much better because almost all mouses you test are black
doesn't need to be white, will get dirty really quick and could be hard to clean properly. Perhaps a light grey or Blue/Red colored.
Why though? Are you losing the mouse in the mouse pad lmao
@@Voxanez lamo that's what's happening to the poor soul😂🤣🤣
it would wash out the camera and everything would look overexposed
He has a grey Corsair pad (mm300) that he has used in most reviews before.
Ty for this keep it up man!
Thanks for the tip on the side buttons... Never thought of that.
Love your reviews zy!! But if you have free time could u update the top 40 list?
Next tutorial: "How to grip your Waifu mousepad for maximum comfort"
Tf u on about
@silvergbasp13 ohh okk, thx bro
I need it
He can't make the tutorial on it..... As its already comfortable >;-)
wrist in between the cheeks technique
Wow i’m actually surprised this really improved my aim by alot i watch so many video thank you
This helped a lot thanks you earned a sub
Keeping my hand relaxed helps me the most with aiming. Any grip that promotes relaxing your hands would probably work for you.
How open should I keep my eyes for best aim?
Well in pistol shooting its better to keep both eyes open, helps you acquire targets faster.
Completely shut. Thank me later
@@theHerathrig actually for all guns lol
Open your both eyes. If still having problems, trying poking your left eye with a knife. It it still works, try poking it again. If the eye survives, do it on the other eye. If the other eye also survives, you are good to go!
@@mbdarkialtdookluj Absolutely correct! If both your eyes don't work anymore though, you have to get tweezers and take the eyeballs out. Feel the way to your monitor and lick the eyeballs and stick it onto your monitor. Should give less mouse click latency and better aim overall!
I ordered my keyboard, mouse and mousepad yesterday I can't wait to start aim training :)
Wow this video is awesome!!! Before this video i click the buttons with my toes and now I'm doing it properly.
thank you for attempting suggestions as a sliver.
im absolutly nuts on palm ever sinse i started cs 2012 im def gonna try other ways i use the g203 so g102 ty for the video
I JUST BOUGHT THAT SOUNDBAR AND I LOVE IT
Great video!! Your content is amazing. I thought I was subbed but wasn't, now I am lol.
I have 45% accuracy with claw that i have been using for 3 years, and i switch to palm grip, I legit got 60% consistently wtf, thanks for making this vid
your cameras so good i can almost see every pore on your hand
DreaM Saiki oof
Actually having the MM710 while I watch this. Thank you Rocket Jump Ninja for the tips.
I agree with a lot of these tips. I'm like hybrid tip/claw player in the sense like you that when I pull the mouse back to microadjust it raises my fingers and pretty much doubles the arch on them. For the side buttons I rest my thumb between both and use a slide and click motion. It's pretty subtle in terms of movement but only using the tip of my thumb for both buttons. One thing I'd LOVE to see on a mouse is another side button on the right side where the ring finger rests. It would need to be fairly ergonomic in terms of it's shape to be acceptable so I can still stabilize the mouse properly and click it without excessive force or moving that finger. A also really wouldn't mind having a lip/wing on the right side either. I feel like I use my ring/pinky slightly touching the pad to kind of "control" micro movements but I'd still be willing to give it a try.
I've tried for months to change from Palm grip to claw/finger tip. I went from the Deathadder, upon it breaking, to a Model O. It's very hard for me to palm the Model O, especially due to the size of my hand. I've found that when running aim tests my aim is actually significantly better when I force a palm grip on the Model O though. I think it's due to my hand size, desk height, and sensitivity combined, but who knows.
I agree 100% fingertip gives more control and fast movements is so easy, espetiately on smooth surface like func smooth side or even better on glass mousepad!
*What about low sensitivity in fps game*
@@rentok8195 ...you know you can change sensitivity in most games right and dpi on most mice ...you know this, right??
@@celestialsss thats what i do, but why are you asking me If i know?
@@celestialsss even League of legends you can change your mouse sensititvity
@@rentok8195 then why are you asking about low sensitivity fps games if you can change said sensitivity
Did anybody notice how clean and smooth and healthy his nails look? On point mate!
dang 've never even thought about this Super informative. Just purchased my second mouse ever yesterday the Razer Viper. I guess I use like a half claw, half palm grip? Mostly claw. My sensitivity in game is usually pretty low so I move my whole arm even when making those micro adjustments, but I think I still benefit from using the claw grip. It still helps my aim to be decent somehow ithink.
I use palm so i dont have to cramp my hand up all the time. I tried claw for a good 6 months(until my razor died) and while i had no better aim, i ran into all sorts of other problems like clicking when quickly putting the mouse down, activating the side buttons on accident, firing on accident. Palm solves all that. Its way easier to lift the mouse up(if it has a decent shape, ec2 b, mx 518). The grip is way more relaxed as well. Also up and down is hardly ever a straight vertical movement and almost every single time requires forearm aim and then a minor adjustment with the wrist. I never had any issues with that. Many of the youtubers make it sound like palm is so inferior, but i dont think so. I think you didnt use palm long enough or you are simply bad at forearm aim and medium to low sense. I get consistency(less mistakes), a more relaxed grip in long sessions and about the same accuracy and speed. There must be a valid reason that 1/3 of the top 350 csgo pros use ec1 a or ec2 a.
Michael Schwarz same there is no perfect mouse grip its all about personal prefence
Michael Schwarz i used palm but now i switched to relaxed claw grip
They're mostly all old pros though. More and more people are moving to claw and fingertip You don't cramp your hand if you use the relaxed fingertip grip or relaxed palm grip. If you're using your forearm for vertical aim then youre inherently not anchoring your wrist or do not have a 90 degree angle on your elbow. This is bad for your aim and for your posture.
@@JerryReyes I thought claw was where you rest a bit of your palm at the back of the mouse, in the video the guy reffers to it as "palm claw" or something... Fingertip is the only grip that gives you enhanced vertical mobility
Sounds like u have too big of a mouse for ur hand 🖐
This video made me take notice of how I hold the mouse. I thought I was a palm-gripper. Apparently I'm a finger-tip-gripper. The bad news is; even though I'm naturally using an ideal grip, I am wicked horrible at Quake Live, and clearly no amount of mouse gripping adjustments is gonna replace the many thousands of hours needed to be good at a game like this. It is fun to hop into Call of Duty here and there after playing Quake exclusively. The opponents in CoD deathmatches look like they're playing in slow-motion after you've become acclimated to Quake for a bit.
A lot of comments are jokes on how this is a basic information (and some funny ones to be fair), but the video actually gave me ideas what to try to improve my aiming. Thank you
I have never seen this floaty index thingy in my life. I'm just happy with something that dosen't make my hand claw up, just something that fits my hand.
At the end of the day, knowing how to grip a mice is all personal preference. I am a TF2 player that has played a few seasons of HL and only used palm grip and never really had the problem with it. If you like the grip you have that's good! Just make sure you don't use a different grip just because that person (like a pro) is using that one grip style. And don't be one of those people who literally put their mouse upside down.
I was using the ec2-a for a long time with palm grip, I changed over to the g305, I found that my grip style didn’t actually change at all it was just the was no contact on the mouse with my palm which because of the small size meant I could now micro aim which I use more for recoil control so maybe it’s more to do with mouse shape and size rather then grip being any sort of issue, your grip is natural but the mouse isn’t so I’m thinking that it’s more to do with finding the right mouse that fits your grip rather then changing your grip, I’m ordering the rail over the weekend as I’m intrigued to try a unique shape, I wonder how long it will be until anyone can form their own shell.
i used to have palmgrip and had pretty decent aim but after your tips im even better at games, thank you so much
@Zakiur Rashed it might
Just ordered the Glorious Model O and going to try and change my grip away from palm to fingertip/claw. I have currently a G502 and M65 Elite
RocketJumpNinja: "if you slam the buttons they will break eventually" Also RocketJumpNinja: *proceeds to slam the buttons*
Dang, he sounds like he’s 29 and his hands make him look like he’s 40.
I'm 37.
DirtyDan ! fucked xdd
@@RocketJumpNinja what?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Dude you could ALMOST be my dad...i want a dad like you!!! Adopt me
Rocket Jump Ninja You sound younger than me, and im younger than you
I like horses
Never thought about gripping styles, but TIL I can and do totally fingertip grip my beloved deathadder. Came across this vid while looking at reviews of the DA v2 Pro which I just ordered ^^
ty for this vid its my first time ever usin a mice btw and well i did good appreciated
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GreatMCGamer weird flex but ok
It is used for double clicking. Or butterfly clicks
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@@dity. Cool bro but actually no one cares
Play it how u feel comfortable, even pros got some wierd grip styles that make it work for them only because it suits them
Pretty much did the same thing.. Went from palm gripping razer naga mmo mouse in fps to finger gripping a g pro hero because it was too small to palm and i noticed a huge improvement in my aim..As you said it gives that extra bit more movement with the hand before you need to move your wrist back and forth. I mean you could do that with palm grip but its a whole lot easier moving your finger tips than your whole arm.
Some of this depends on the size of your hands. I use a deathadder and am technically a palm grip, but it is only about the top 1/4th of my palm that actually rests on the mouse. Because of this I have far more horizontal adjustment than you do. Another distinction is that people like myself tend to use a lot of arm movement, have a lower sensitivity (compared to fingertip/claw on a smaller mouse), and a very large mouse pad. As your sensitivity gets lower, you don't require as much fine tuning adjustment (since your motions tend to be larger, more focused on arm movement, and largely uses the elbow as a pivot). Especially since it requires almost no wrist movement this is much better ergonomically (no fatigue or discomfort) while the lower sensitivity allows for more precision. At any rate, it is best to experiment with different mice, grips, and sensitivity to find out what works for you. You are 100% correct that everyone's hands are different.
I've always used the 1-3-1 grip because it always felt natural to rest my middle finger on the wheel. I never realised it's an uncommon grip style.
what is wierd is i use palm grip but both my middle and index finger on on the right trigger. I I need to fix that
Can you try the G-wolves skoll please?
Omri Rainman and the hati
i think he already said he wouldn't really review clones in the model o review... skoll is a clone of zowie ec btw
I have the mouse. The weight, shape, cord, and side buttons are great..but the m1/m2 are terrible IMO. Too mushy and problems with double click. I stopped using it after a few days.
@@kyle7700 update ur drivers they added a debounce timer and all ur problems are gone ;)
@@Volker_Putt I did. I still have issues even on 11. So I guess it's worse on some. But that doesn't change the travel in the buttons.
I use 1-3-1 grip and it's a good style if you're used to it. my tracking and precision aiming has become more consistent with this style. but it really comes down to experimenting and trying out all grip styles and find which one works best for you.
Bro this actually helped me not put so much force on my shitty ebay mouse. Thank you, your style improved my aim quite the bit..
I use 400 Dpi and 1.6 in-game sens in CSGO. I also use a palm grip. Low sensitivity players tend to be not affected by using palm grip (because we move our whole arm to do everything anyway.) while high sensitivity players use claw grip usually. You can see pro CS:GO players using this such as friberg from NiP.
Palm Griper for ~14years here ( attempting to be a "formerly known palm griper") . I developed a habit of using Palm grip when I was young because i thought it was the only way to grip a mouse ( i was young and ignorant to other techniques) I personally think I have great aim w/ FPS games, but one of my greatest weakness was micro adjustments, specifically vertical micro adjustments (back and forth movements) because of the restriction with Palm grip. About 8 years ago when I was 15 I got more serious about PC gaming I was aware about different techniques but i figured if I am good at it and already have the muscle memory why change it? ( also I couldn't afford to buy multiple mouses and back then marketing for "gaming" mice was expensive, unlike todays market where you can get amazing mice for 60-90$) Until recently about literally 1 week ago I started Claw griping and it was Day and Night difference ( my hand did get a bit fatigue because it was not use to it) but my aim was so much better and precise, my tracking was better as well and my micro adjustments with vertical movement is soo much better. I really recommend trying Claw grip, it will definitely be out of your comfort zone but it is so worth in my opinion
I’m lucky to have been using claw grip since I started PC gaming (6 years ago) I try to use palm grip sometimes to just see how it is and if feels almost impossible
dang u goated at mw
Even better aim now?
@@Billybobber47 My aim is more consistent now. I would say that my aim has gotten better, but because I have improved since then. Ive been practicing. One thing that I can say that got better by switch styles is tracking targets (when they strafe, move left to right) as palm gripper and wrist player tracking targets was always my worst trait, but after using claw grip i instantly felt a difference. At the end I guess yeah my aim is better now.
@@neatclaps Thats awesome! yeah palm gripping now for me feels impossible too!
I swap between 1-3-1 claw grip for flicking and 1-2-2 palm claw/finger tip for comfort and tracking. Beyond doing close-close mid range flicks, good 180s, and tracking I think one real 'world' game scenario worth practicing is hitting fast medium-long range microflicks because it's something you actually have to put time into and can separate those who are lazy but have good game sense/aim and a machine doing long range 1 taps. So I think it's worth looking into the ergonomics some pros use, like rapha with his mouse close to his body and diagonal with his fairly high 21cm360 or someone who plays further into their desk on a sens like 43cm360.
as someone with huge hands the razer deathadder barely fits my hand, a perfect mouse. Cant stand the feel of fingers hanging over the edge. They also designed the gripping on the right side for the pinkie and ring finger to fit perfectly. Finding the best grip is key and usually its best to make your own style with a mouse you find comfortable. You can also use multiple styles, like him when my mouse comes close i transition to a claw.
Will you review the Razer huntsman tournament edition (linear optical switches)
Plot twist: his grandfather is doing the grip positions and rjn is doing the voice over
Really helpful, thanks
fingertip grip ftw... i used to play palm/claw when i was a kid, recently got a deathadder thinking a bigger mouse might be good given that I'm tall. Now that I've spent a month using a few different mice, realized I'm a fingertip grip now am using the smallest mouse I have. I think everyone should experiment with different mice for a few weeks, I had long been using one that's too large. I like to use that bony part of my palm to pivot on, makes fine tuning shots wayyyy more accurate. Also got an L shaped desk so I can sit my forearm on the desk for even more stability and to lessen aching wrists.
I was just watching a mouse review and then saw a new video so now I'm here
#1 How should I place my fingers on the sides of the mouse? Mine are usually really low so they drag on the mouse pad; thumb, ring, and pinky. Is that giving me more control or just slowing me down? #2 is there going to be a review of the Logitech G604 that just got released?
a good tip too is a lot of mice give you the option to ajust X and Y axis. Try having Y axis higher and using a claw mix
I‘m actually palm gripping a Finalmouse UL2 with about 19.5 by 9cm hands, and feel pretty good doing so. Had a G502, G403, GPW, FK2, Model O, and MM710 and my aim feels the best on the UL2 with very low sensitivity.
I'm so glad I "accidentally" started to use fingertip when I didn't even know we had different grips it just feels the most comfortable to me, and goes really well with my GPro
How do you 40cm/360 with that shit? hand rubbing on table or muscle tension
Fps is the worst
0:54 Me butterfly clicking for multiple hours a day: oh
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@@marshi4683 What does that have to do with square game
@@joeass2399 click hard
My aim is awesome with palm/arm and no wrist pain, wrist cramps like crazy in any other grip. Niko is an awesome example of a palm gripper with arm aim.
I use fingertip grip, and I didnt knew that lol. thanks for the video.