How Are 7 Million Unemployed Men Actually Surviving? - Nicholas Eberstadt
Nicholas Eberstadt is a political economist, demographer, American Enterprise Institute scholar, and an author.
More than 7 million prime working age men in America are not looking for work, and each year that number continues to grow. Given that unemployment is at a massive low, why are so many capable men checking out of the workforce and don't intend on coming back?
Expect to learn why massive cohorts of men aren’t looking for employment, the repercussions of mass joblessness, how these men are able to support themselves, why they spend over 2000 hours a year on screens while smoking weed, the reason you haven’t heard about this issue before, what it does to men's mental health, the impact of women being the bread winners and much more...
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00:00 Intro
00:25 Exploring the Topic of Male Unemployment
06:51 Why Are So Many Men Unemployed in America?
16:05 How These Men Are Surviving
23:15 Impact of a Criminal Record on Male Employment
30:40 Differences Between Poverty & Misery
33:45 The Evolving Role of Masculinity
37:09 Would Universal Basic Incomes Be a Net-Negative?
41:56 What is Causing Malaise in Men?
46:35 Is Nicholas Worried for the Future?
51:16 Are Men Being Sedated?
54:16 Where to Find Nicholas
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Hello you legends. This is one of the most important new topics I've learned about recently, enjoy! Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - chriswillx.com/books/. Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:25 Exploring the Topic of Male Unemployment 06:51 Why Are So Many Men Unemployed in America? 16:05 How These Men Are Surviving 23:15 Impact of a Criminal Record on Male Employment 30:40 Differences Between Poverty & Misery 33:45 The Evolving Role of Masculinity 37:09 Would Universal Basic Incomes Be a Net-Negative? 41:56 What is Causing Malaise in Men? 46:35 Is Nicholas Worried for the Future? 51:16 Are Men Being Sedated? 54:16 Where to Find Nicholas
type this in on youtube chris ROCKET HITS FIRMAMENT watch the video ( there is not reason for us to work in this satanic society when GOD Christ is above the dome, this place is temporary and I have no will to give my energy to satanic men who only want to see us as tools and cattle I would rather be free and not have a lot of money then to be a slave and think im free )
Ever considered some sort of panel interview with say, men that aren't working, men that aren't in relationships, just gather a group of some different backgrounds and ages?
As someone actually in this demographic, none of these "experts" you keep bringing on are able to accurately diagnose the source of this issue. Its genuinely pathetic how they are so blind to something so simple to understand. Spit on a man long enough and he will crawl across broken glass to stab their enemy in the heart.
(1) The Education system is designed to waste our time and financial resources, and is a social mobility retardant. (2) Gender Equity Policies inevitably leads to women aging out of their fertility window & pricing themselves out of the dating market. (3) What is the point of killing yourself in a poorly compensated & unfulfilling 9-to-5 job for promiscuous women who have damaged their ability to pair bond? Not one of your guests has adequately addressed the ramifications of No Fault Divorce. Men build to secure their legacy. We currently have a net negative when it comes to reproductive rights and parental rights overall.
Have you actually considered talking to people actually representative of this demographic?
The elites can’t stand the peasants not reaching for the dangling carrot anymore.
I think if that was really true they would do something about all those job advertisements that clearly aren't real.
That's why so many states are doing away with child labor laws.
They ain't even dangling a carrot anymore, they just dangle a string that looks like a noose.
@@Davids-cc9sn you’re not wrong
They want AI to replace human workers. It’s all too clear
Men: Stop treating us like shit, and pay us what we're actually earning. Everyone: No. Men: Fine, fuck it, we're out.
Well said.
Amen brother!!!
Yes - this!!!
Everyone: no no, come back, why you no work!?
Problem is your are arguing over the wrong things. Its not the job stealing your money you agreed with.. Its Government Taxes and inflation Would you not love to see a 30% plus increase in your pay? Who gets a 30% pay raise? The fight is not to make a place like McDonalds pay you 30hour. The fight is from the people who take 30% out of your W2, another 10% for everything you buy and more from inflation/state/fees. That is the real battle Imagine actually getting back at least 40% of your pay every week? Imagine gas prices still being a dollar something.. Imagine eggs going back to being in the cents. Focus on the real issues
I quit a job without two weeks' notice in 2019 after my millionaire boss said " You should be happy you have a job". He was paying me $14hr. My father got really sick. I had to take him to a doctor's appointment. My boss told me to hire a nurse. This dude was living in an alternative universe. I quit the next day.
I salute you for that. When I delivered newspapers literally in the dead of winter there was one super rich guy who never tipped me anything but Insisted give him 10 cents back so he "could buy a cup of coffee." As I recall I quit that paperoute without notice too. I just couldn't get motivated to be someone's slave.
@@testymann5045oh no, I think he was belittling you. What a jerk.
Pretty commonplace! I’ve experienced similar things. Leverage is scare!
Good. The only thing that would have been better is not even showing up to work and refusing to answer the phone if he called to complain.
why are you only commanding $14 an hour in the labor market? A high school kid can go to Bucee's gas station with no experience and get $18 an hour to start. you haven't raised your value beyond a non-skilled worker? Shame on you bro
I'm a six-figure earning engineer that writes software for space vehicles, and yet I think about quitting my job almost every day. Since I've made it into the upper-middle class and am doing well, yet I'm still miserable about the whole thing, I know that salary, benefits, and like really aren't the issue. The issue is that there's nothing worthwhile to live for. Men can endure poverty, long hours, and all the difficulties of life...if it's for a worthy cause. All the things that gave men purpose in life have been either commercialized or completely decimated in the last few decades: having a family, participating in a religion, wanting to improve or defend your society, etc. Family life has become atrocious for men, religion has been gutted and made more about politics and tribalism than reaching for something transcendent of us, and no one wants to improve this society because it's clearly a failing mess of radical ideology. There's nothing to emotionally invest in anymore. Jobs just make the boss richer; they don't increase mating opportunities anymore, they don't contribute to anything greater or transcendent of us, and woke bullshit is shoved down our throats the whole time. There's no solid place to put one's energy. Thus, men are checking out to play video games and watch pr0n.
Brilliantly said sir. Well done. I'm a trucker myself so I'm not on an amazing wage, but I do I vest nearly 30% of my income every week and have done for the last few months. I do it for my son. I had him late in life but he is my world. I thought I was oh so clever and wise but since having my son I realise what's truly important.
Amen Brother. You took the words out of my mouth and put them to paper. I too am an Engineer. After my Wife called it quits, it left me living with my family. Oh, I have money from liquidated assets after the divorce (Homes), but so what. Boss gets richer of which is okay as I’m not a socialist, wife moves on with a banner of feminism and my So Cal family is card carrying wolk folk. At 59 and a Veteran, I can’t wait to live in another country retired at 62. The way I’ve been treated (White, middle class, non-degreed professional who has never bounced a check or struck anyone) it’s as if todays culture can’t wait for me to leave! I’ll take my retirement income elsewhere. Thanks
@@jonmarchilgers384 Ya, I hear you brother. I've only been doing engineering for a few years and I'm already pretty done. I don't see the point of putting in these long hours. The pay is nice, but now that I have a nice nest egg and minimal expenses I'm already quite comfortable. It's amazing how little a single guy with no interest in the dating market really needs. I'm probably going to join a monastery when my current lease is up. I see complete dedication to my spiritual practice as the only worthwhile path available. I don't have a particular religion exactly, but I learned meditation from a Buddhist tradition a while back and will continue that. I don't know what religion you hail from or believe in, but every one of them I know of has some sort of contemplative tradition. I was an agnostic atheist before I learned meditation and Buddhist meditation practices are very compatible with that worldview (they just instruct you to watch your breathing). But I know Christians have multiple contemplative traditions, as do Jews, Muslims, and Hindus. You might give this a consideration. Most religion has become tribal and intolerable to me, but there's spiritual practice out there that still seems quite meaningful.
I quit my 300k software dev job, because the money becomes worthless. It does not give anything more. We can't save it due to inflation, we can't put it in the stock marked because if we win, all profit goes to taxes, and if we loose, we have to take the whole cost. Doing realestate is so heavy taxed and people renting belive they are checking in on a luxury hotel with 24/7 service and "the landlords are just gready capitalists that exploid them" without understanding most of what they pays goes to taxes and maintainance. All i want in the end is just freedom. "I leave you alone and you leave me alone" but once we are not left alone, then what's point?
I live in Mexico and I think there are many factors but the most critical is how expensive things are now and what society expects from men. Society wants us not to complaing about anything and accept that if you are poor and miserable is because you want it that way. Women still want the old male responsabilities to be upheld by men but all the priviledges of modern feminism for them, society tells us that if you are young you are dumb and need to climb the salary ladder which will take a decade at least. In the current economical conditions from your 20s to your 30s you will be broke barely paying the rent and bills and dating women is very expensive specially when they have Tinder to choose from 100+ different dudes, I mean they can party each week free of charge as long a different man pays. In addition they won't accept a man that makes less than them and any women can make more than a man just by opening an OF account. Women in the past were told to marry, have kids and choose a man that loved her and was willing to take care of her, the money was going to be there eventually if the man worked hard for it and she was going to take care of things at home for him. Now they get the idea that they deserve the top tier men with the looks and the money, that creates lonely poor young men that even trying their best are still miserable also with the inflation out of the charts affording a home is becoming impossible so you stay with your parents the longer taht is possible or share a cheap apartment with other dudes. Also jobs in Mexico are killing our souls, you just are a tool that has to live to produce and be efficient 6 out of 7 days a week. Can you really blame men if they prefer whatever hobby they like ther most, drugs, whores, video games and doing just the bare minimun to survive rather than a life of hard work and a demmanding wife that can leave you at anytime and take half of the things that took you 20 years to build??? Men are losing hope in finding a decent young women, this exactly the root problem for young men: affording a home, having a wife and rising kids is a luxury now when it used to be the nucleus of a functional society...
Nothing I love more than an entry-level job demanding 4 years experience and a bachelors degree.
Fr like wth is with that I’m fresh out and can’t even get a chance to grow or gain experience f this
@@Graham_Patch Luckily I'm good. I just remember the pain of job hunting 10 years ago during the Obama era right after I got out of the Air Force. I really feel for the younger people these days because it is that much harder now.
I love this 💕 I will say me and some people I know have gotten lucky applying to those jobs anyways because they can’t get any “new” people woth that much experience
Supply + demand who could have seen the repercussions of telling 3.5 generations of children that they must go to college if they want a good job and that blue collar work is for losers?
And the pay is minimum wage
I think the internet has given rise to a consciousness that Men are realising why work yourself into the ground for a society that treats you as disposable.
Yep finally we got the memo. I am already on the cusp of 30.
hit the nail on the head, my value to others is really the value of my income and the amount of respect people give you is tied so tightly to how popular you are.
Living off the grid has been more popular than ever before
You would think so but no. Men take great satisfaction building things. And want to be compensated for their labor. Then take that capital to spend anyway they want. You are talking nonsense to make yourself feel better for being unproductive. But if you got off your ass and started building houses or wrenching cars you would feel pride.
Capootalism
It should be "people don't want to be slaves anymore! " Instead of "people don't want to work anymore" Many people, particularly the younger generation, use a range of unconventional methods of earning a living these days. I worked in the retail for over 10 years, so l'm quite happy that this is taking place. For too long, retail bullied me and a lot of my employees/colleagues saying things like "if you don't like it,go; another like you is waiting to get into your position " since the COVID, I found a job that helps me grow, pays me more and Values Me, Social media cleared the way for a rapidly expanding market, and it taught us a lot. 2020 was my turning point, and investment helped alot!
You're very right There's almost nothing interesting or motivating about 9-5 anymore.
yh. The 2020 pandemic gave everyone a big rethink! I tried a lot of things; I realised I shouldn't just let my savings sit around in the bank, tried side hustles. It paid off! Right now I’ve got less work time, time for my family and stick making the 6 figures
Speaking about investing, what worthwhile Investments are you making? And how do you do it ? I can learn and put my savings into good use
Having to spend time with Family, that's the real MVP! 🏆 Time is your major asset as a human but these corporation try to steal it sadly.
There's various profitable ways to invest. Starting out you need to work with experienced hands to walk you through. As a rookie I dabbled in and made mistakes till I got a mentor to put me on the right track. You can search one too, read books and do your own research
When you are younger you believe there is an immutable relationship between merit and reward. As you get older you realise the relationship is between corruption and reward. If you are incorruptible you will have very very little in this life.
Very true. When I first started bricklaying, I had to keep lying to get on site. I got sacked from atleast 8 jobs before I got good enough to be called adequate. Then I got on with a firm who trained me properly, so was quite lucky. I'm a trucker now, but I'll never forget how humiliating it was to lie like that and get fired again and again. However, if I didn't put myself through that situation, I wouldn't of learned the skill. Just to add, I'm not in construction anymore as they all tend to be drongos and they are all high on drugs - the mental health crisis with construction and road workers in England is unreal due to drugs
Hmphhhh... true
@@ourworldtoday2024 💩
@@mmmbbop9351 you don't think much of the drug use is the by product of not seeing a worthwhile path forward (plus any untreated mental/physical/social problems) but still needing some money, so putting in a half-assed effort by getting a job doing something, even if it means you're showing up kind of hung over and maybe reupping on your lunch break? I don't imagine that most people in construction have everything going for them but then drugs crept in and fucked it up (...not because there's anything wrong with construction, but it's a field where you do the hard work and often get rewarded less, so I don't think these people are calling most of the shots in life, hence why drug use might not be _the cause_ but another side effect of a challenging situation)
@@OurNewestMember you take forever to say nothing. Men have faced many hardships over the years and not broken, but kicked life in the arse and emerged victorious and unbroken. I understand exactly what you are saying and I think the reason why most construction workers suffer from these affliction's has got nothing to do with personal circumstances and everything to do with the culture. Read "black rednecks and white liberals" by Thomas Sowell. It details the origins of the ghetto mentality and it's effects on the society that glorifies it. I worked with a Lad from Stoke tonight (am currently in a hgv job which is double manned) and he was an absolute scumbag and revelled in that fact. Over the last two weeks alone, I have worked with Africans, Polish, Romanians and the English. My fellow countrymen have that ghetto mentality in spades and it makes me so God damned ashamed.
For the last year since I got out of college with my engineering degree, I've put out hundreds of applications for entry-level engineering jobs, in companies that are actively looking to hire lots of entry-level applicants, and no one wanted me, leaving me stuck in a wood shop building crates, where I developed a reputation as one of the few guys who reliably showed up on time and sober. Then the wife of the man who owns the company came by on one of her daily walks around the company, struck up a conversation, found out that I had an engineering degree, and put in a word with the lead engineer; now I have my first engineering job offer. Apparently, you don't get jobs by putting in applications. You get jobs through networking.
You just gotta know the right people
Yeah everything is about who you know that's why if you don't know anyone you are screwed
That's exactly right. I don't care what the field is. You develop relationships and get to know people. You need any reference you can and you are always developing relationships as your career develops. It's not right or wrong, it just is.
Yes, networking is everything.
Its not who ya know its who ya blow
I love how these two men didn't talk about the elephant in the room, "Exploitation". Every job I have ever had, I have been pushed to my limits, to work fast, to work harder, or get laid off. Bosses exploit their workers, pay them low incomes and expect you to love them for it. This isn't a career, it's paid slavery.
One can look at it as old-fashioned slavery was where your masters provided you at least a place to live and food to eat. Now they just hand you a paycheck and tell you to find those things on your own. So, what's the big difference? The beatings are less?
you are just lazy.
serfdom maybe but slavery implies involuntary loyalty or servitude to a specific master. You're perfectly ALLOWED to not work a job. You're free to try and carve out an existence in whatever way you wish, it's just heavily incentivized to play the game or join the system.
Ikr. It isn't very motivating to waste almost all of your lifetime for work, while the people you work for make more than double the money than you do. Especially with big companies, where you work for investors/shareholders, that do absolutely nothing except cashing in on dividends from their shares, or hold board meetings from time to time, if their share is big enough lmao. And don't even get me started about all the influencers, streamers and e-girls, that get big money for being lazy too, while you work hard.
All work is like that. Try being self employed now that’s a brutal boss , in construction my husband is constantly pushed by general contractors and clients. Push push push…
Quit my inside sales office job about 5 years ago. Couldn’t stand any of the people I worked with, and the more you did, the more they wanted. The whole environment seemed repressed and everyone seemed hypnotized. I paint houses now by myself, live in a paid for mobile home on an acre of land and paint paintings and record music most of my time now. Never been happier. I’m so done with the matrix.
This is the way, I'm in a similar boat as you. At the end of this long employment battle I stopped looking at what I thought would make other people respect me and started asking myself; "what makes ME happy?". Cheers, friend.
I admire you for doing the sales office job for any length of time. I couldn't do it Excellent that you got out of there and are doing something you find rewarding
I worked 20 years in medicine, I mow lawns now and never been happier .
@@13infbatt I know the feeling, I’m mowing grass as well! Exercise, fresh air, little hard work, good pay, and a morning schedule... balanced.
That's awesome
A fellow once told me about an employer who required 10 years experience with a program that has only existed for 5 years. This same company turned away the person who invented the program because he didn't meet the 10 year requirement.
Lol 😂 This is brutal!!!
I watched youtube vid of a guy who applied for a managerial job at bestbuy. They turned him down cause he was older and they were looking for someone who was around 19 but who also had 5 years experience. So they wanted someone who started working as a manager at age 14? How is anyone supposed to take these employers seriously?
@@ntokheim lol can't be true
Just shows the ignorance of employers
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Myth:"Nobody wants to work anymore!" REALITY: Nobody wants to pay a DECENT wage anymore!
REALITY: Nobody wants to pay a DECENT wage anymore!
@@ettoretavilla3081 I ALREADY wrote that lol 🤣
People whom complain about men out of work ignore high inflation, pay that someone cannot live on alone, impossible work hours (constantly changing schedule), hostile work environment (including being forced to go to "classes" that say how horrible men are), no chance of promotion, nor reward (promotions and rewards go to those that check off marks for lists of demographics). Any taxes the men pay go to benefit everyone else to allow everyone else to have an advantage over them (men). What we are seeing is the variation of the "grass eater" movement that has been around in Asian for a while. Men see a no win situation in trying to have a career or start a family. So, they go to ground and do the basics to survive. Historically, when men go to ground like this, the collapse of civilization is not far behind.
@@WilliamAGould Excellent reply there, its designed by those at the top of "Triangle" to be like that
@@ettoretavilla3081 They dance around the real reasons without actually commenting on them. Corporations have a built in interest to lobby for family courts to side with women. While men and women make around 50/50 pay. Women pay for 80%-90% of the products corporations sell. That is not even touching the loan industry. Men checking out means no more families, no more loans, no more alimony/child support. Minimalism cuts into tax revenue.
It's quite simple: When you're constantly losing at every turn. The only winning move is to not play.
That's part of the issue yes, everyday life and the future have become so chaotic and messed up these last years that many just tune out. This won't end well.
@@Wayoutthere What chaos? It's a combination of agendas, including constitutional emasculation.
Eek that’s a pretty bleak outlook. Get out of your city, change your environment and it will change you too. Good luck in your venture
If one is constantly losing at every turn even while others win, then the problem is oneself.
@@clermeil I'll let the people in North Korea know that. They must have forgot
Dedicate your life towards a shareholder-owned company, surrender your best years to it, see your bosses take credit for your work, then get outsourced/replaced by IT upgrades. I am astounded that more people don't throw it all in.
Throw it all in for what? To be a parasite on those of us who get up everyday and work to provide the food these people eat, the cars they drive etc? Making an argument for parasitism isn’t edgy or smart
@@Witnessmoo I work every day, despite the looming economic tsunami about to hit the UK. We both are just a number who would gladly be replaced by a machine if the owners could do so. I have seen it happen before, sadly.
Sadly because if you throw in the towel, you'll be punished with poverty and no ability to access healthcare. Many are afraid of that and for their families and rightfully so.
I worked hard in school and took a sensible marketable degree. My father always taught me hard work an education was the path to a happy life. Now I'm serving burgers after spending tens of thousands of dollars on loans for a scientific degree. This realization that this country is no longer about hard work and the American dream was a tough one to face.
Wow....that is tragic indeed. I'm sure you're not the only one who had to go through this capitalistic BS.
Don't give up! You could make shift manager. JK. Tons of people find themselves doing stupid work after training for something that sounded good. Part of trick is that unless you're already wealthy and/or well-connected, what drives the next step is when someone with the resources really needs/wants someone badly (for a new project, to replace someone.... Whatever.... Doesn't matter too much).... That's where you come in. Typically your degree barely matters. What matters is that they need someone and they either like you enough or dislike the idea of finding yet another candidate. I know. It's not flattering. So you can improve the success rate by bumping into more people with needs (eg, more networking, applying for jobs farther outside your current chosen field), or just allowing more time (not ideal, but can work). Basically, the variable here is not you (because you don't have the thing you want, which is the more suitable job), it's the people with the thing you want. They'll typically call a recruitment company once they get approval to hire someone, so if you make yourself available where the recruitment companies look for people, you're likely positioned to finally close the loop by finishing their tedious candidate search and bringing your days of picking up your shift schedule for the restaurant to a close. There's nothing magical; it's very mechanical and not explained too job applicants.
Who told you science was marketable? How did you come to that conclusion or sustain is as a scientist who presumably lives in a world of cold logic and pragmatic reason?
I'm not a NEET but I perfectly understand why young men don't want to work anymore. More and more often I hear a version of this from people: "When I was young I was told if I work hard, I will be able to have a nice house, a loving family, a car. Well, now I'm an adult, I work hard, very hard in fact, and the best I can only afford to rent a room in an apartment with two other people. I can barely afford a 15 year-old car and I cannot even bring a girl over"
Few people "want" to work. Let's be real, here: people work primarily to secure their own immediate personal ends or those of their families. Everything else is mostly incidental. Of course there are some people who actually enjoy what they do. Such people are usually said to have "careers" as opposed to mere "jobs". Ok, Captain Obvious rant over 😊
Yup and its a shit show created by incompetent government.
Thank the influx of illegals (aliens)
If you can't afford any of those things, I highly doubt you 'work hard'.
@@mrsleep0000 There are tons of people 'working hard' who are basically just subsiding housing and Walmart and the auto sector. I can't remember the figure off hand, but a LOT of americans have very few savings let alone 'wealth'. Thats ALL intentional, thats the 'american way of life'.
I'd say 90% of the "problem" is the employers. Not getting 350 people to apply for one crappy job is now a "crisis."
Absolutely
Yup I applied for a very shitty grocery store job now they won't leave me alone with their calls!
not if they are choosing not to work, living off relatives and welfare instead of even looking for work.
Yup, greed, 400 times inequality in pay from top to bottom of a corporation. Used to be 40 times maximum from laborer to CEO. Stock market ruined the world once again. Been a few wars over this already. These guys are head in the sand anti regulation types, it has never worked without the government on the little guys side, of course some regulations are insane and make things worse for the little guy as well, has to be well targeted and crafted.
Shitty pay, shitty job, and they wonder why people won't
We've been told over and over and over, through ads, through college classes, through HR deparments, society needs men like a fish needs a bicycle.
But its a lie of course. A society becomes weak without motivated men, and some dejected men can become dangerous in their behaviour as a result, others just cut off... and then more patriarchal ideologies can start to take over - either that or it makes the masses much easier to control
FISH don't need a bicycle, they need a tesla
@@rdallas81 "Fish don't need a bicycle" is the whole point...
I quit my last real job at 40 and have NO desire to ever work again. I don't need the money, and my time is far more valuable to me than any amount of money you can offer me. Most jobs are pointless and soul crushing. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to work.
I'm turning 40 in June and feel like doing the same.
I'm barely able to pay my bills at 38, and there's no way I could just quit my job.
UK retirement age is going up to 71.
@@misscoutts6193 That's unfortunate, because its just going to make it even harder for young people to find decent jobs. The elderly need to retire to free up places in the labor market for younger people just getting out of school. If they don't, high youth unemployment results, along with a host of social problems like a reduced birthrate (young men and women without jobs choose not to have kids), increased crime, increased dependence on social welfare programs, etc.
Longer exploitation
I’m a software engineer. I pursued this career because I was always told that I need to go to college. I didn’t know what I wanted to study, so I decided to make my studies an investment with a good financial ROI. Ten years later, I’m absolutely miserable. I’m financially stable, but mentally unhealthy. My wife died by suicide a few years ago. Our biggest sources of stress were our shitty, meaningless jobs. I'm barely able to keep a low stress, good paying, work from home job because I'm burnt out and suffer from PTSD. It’s simple…what incentive do young males have to take jobs that disconnect them from nature, themselves, their purpose, their esteem, their sense of self worth, their friends, their families, and their communities and doesn’t even pay enough to buy a house…much less afford to raise a family? Meanwhile we’re addicted to products and content created by younger, healthier, funnier, more charismatic, better looking, and more confident millionaires who condescendingly shame anyone for not thriving in a capitalistic system where 3 billionaires are worth more than half of the population.
I'm sorry about your wife. Hang in there and keep saving your money. Debt is slavery, focus on getting free.
Amen brother, it fucking sucks.
I am sorry for your loss. There are proven and relatively quick ways to treat burn out and PTSD. You can look into research using MDMA or magic mushrooms + counseling, Amsterdam in the Netherlands is a good place for it since the substances are in top quality. Iboga therapy is supposedly even stronger (haven't personally tried that). Regarding meaning, I would do that after integrating the PTSD and from a more relaxed point of view using existential therapy. You can combine all that with Ashtanga style yoga, I would be very surprised if after a few months of daily practice of Ashtanga (very different from other yoga styles) you are still in the same state. I think it is practically impossible but who knows. Find the right teachers and you can grow. You can put meaning in the most mundane and seemingly redundant things in life, however coming from a position of self efficacy and control is important for your well being.
Agreed with everything you said 100%. Also sending condolences.
God bless you, that's tough to hear.
Working a job where the most productive guy gets paid the same as the least productive that creates more work for me is a great feeling. Very fulfilling
Don’t be productive
@@song-signs Some of us have a very strong work-ethic built into us from our upbringing. It takes "more work" for us to not be productive. I see the non-productive types at my work. It's amazing how they are able to bullshit for 5 hours of their 8 hour day, doing maybe 3 hours of real work, and the other 5 hours pretending to work, walking to the breakroom, bathroom, checking their phones, making small talk with the other employees, basically doing anything and everything but their actual job. For me, my day goes by much faster if I'm pedal to the medal working. If I try to deliberately be unproductive, an 8 hour day will seem like a 20 hour day. Some of us don't even have a choice
@@Psmitty97 have you ever considered that maybe you were taught the wrong things? That maybe that other lazy guy was taught the right thing? It’s quite simple actually. If someone strategy nets success and another person’s strategy nets failure, who is doing things right?
It's even more fulfilling when the least productive guy who creates more work for you is your boss because he's an idiot. So you end up doing the work of 3 or 4 people, but he only pays you minimum wage.
Start your own business.
for alot of men 22-30 the job market is just totally overwhelmingly shitty and they just drop out. they have little to no work experience and noone will hire you with no experience, because employers got used to being able to get people with 5 years experience and a college degree applying en masse for entry level positions. so now employers cant get college degreed people with experience to apply so they just dont hire anyone for entry level positions, which leaves the ppl who ARE working to do the work of 1.5-2 people because youre chronically understaffed. you get extremely discouraged. it's a no win scenario with so many employers now. the new norm now for good paying jobs is like 60-70 hour weeks with working from home on the weekend usually required to meet deadlines. it's ridiculous. couple that with housing prices being roughly half of most ppl's incomes, you start to realize that youre a hampster on a wheel of inescapable work.
When I hit the age of 23, I realized that although I lived in comfort, something was missing and that I was miserable. I dedicated a year of my life to improving myself, finding religion, fixing my diet, exercising, and I even slimmed down 80 pounds. There is one problem, despite having decent prior work experience, I still can't seem to ever land a job. The ones in my area dont really pay enough to be worth doing (try $12/hr when average rent is 2-3k in rent), but I apply anyway. I make it to interviews, some even second and third round, and end up getting ghosted. Gig economy didnt work out either. Creating my own online store just made me lose thousands. I find it comical that I decided not to be a NEET, to dramatically improve my life, and yet the final decision on whether or not I get to be is not even up to me. Either I get a lucky break, remain a leech all my life, or kill myself. What other options do I really have, when I got rejected for fast food, office work, or a janitorial job all the same?
join the military lol
You don't land a job by putting in applications. You land a job through networking. What you're doing is great and building your confidence, but what you really need to do is go out and meet people and NETWORK. That is how you're going to land a lucrative job. Applying through applications is a complete waste of time
@@Nichi8404 Well I think the military follows under kill your self. That's just killing your self with honor.
@@Nichi8404 I joined the navy this year, and I got discharged before finishing boot camp because of my anxiety. I'm 26 and was trying to get out of being a NEET. I know in hindsight I wasn't fully mentally prepared (though I thought I was going in), but fuck were those living conditions inhuman! I realize boot camp is supposed to be hard, but it truly felt dehumanizing. I found out in separations that even if I had made it all the way through training, I probably would've gotten pulled out last minute for ADHD anyway. Chronic depression and anxiety sucks. I'm not on any substances, but I am living with my retired dad and I have almost no motivation to do anything but go to church and play video games. I know I need a purpose, but between my mental struggles and the current state of society, I just don't know what to do.
@@jip230- Now here is someone who actually gets it. Applying for postings or just sending resumes is a lost cause. I got every job in my life due to networking, which often raises the whine, "it's not what you know but who you know". Tough...thats life. And once I was in, I got 3 or 4 more hired because of who they knew...Me...
I have a bachelors degree, a car paid off, no debt, no kids, and even then I still have to live at home because jobs don’t pay living wages. I have a perfect attendance award for not missing 1 day of high school in 4 years. I have a bachelors degree in biology. I was working at Memorial Herman hospital in Houston. I worked in the lab diagnosing leukemia and blood cancer patients. My pay was 15 an hour even with my degree. They even made me bring my degree in so they could make a copy of it. Plus the job was only part time so I only made 1200 a month. I left and went to another lab full time at a Covid testing center and they only paid 15 an hour. Rent for a 1 bed room in my area on average is 1300 a month and they want 3 times the rent. Not to mention an absolutely toxic work environment. It’s not worth it anymore
I don't know what it is about lab work, but it has always seemed heavily underpaid given the requirements
@@_Junkers No kidding. Also if you help in any lab studies. You know where you get paid to be sick. The government will tax you on that.. which is f**ked up.
I make more than that working an entry level job at an amazon warehouse
Lol 😆 🤣 😂 McDonald's pays 22.50 an hour in my area 🤣 😅 😂 my job a have a degree for pays me 17.50 an hr 😅 🙃 🤣 t h e juice ain't worth the squeeze.
Buc-ees pays more than that per hour. Hot bbq on the block!!! But seriously, with all that they charge the patients for bills, you know they are making good money there, difference is, the boss is not willing to share that in the form of pay because he will get that in the form of a bigger bonus of he keeps your pay down.
Modern jobs dont even pay rent. Why is that so hard to figure out? Men want a job that buys a car...take the woman out...save for a house. These people are clueless.
Live like Mexican immigrants. 8 to 10 people per house. Share expenses
"These jobs, are going boys and they are not coming back.... to your hometown".
Takes rich ass people to interview on a topic and supposedly be experts but it goes right over their head 😅
They aren't clueless, they are hired narcissistic gaslighters.
Stop buying $40,000 vehicles and $1,200 phones.
Not from the US. But I can explain why the problem is even worse - way worse - than what people think it is. I live in the so called "world's best country to live in", Norway. I calculated that if I buy a relatively cheap and small apartment. And I cut all expenses to the point life isn't even worth living anymore. Living on water and bread and not buying or doing anything. It would still take me 25 years of slavery to pay down that one tiny apartment. That's your whole life, the most meaningful part of it anyway, slaving away to afford a tiny ass apartment. If you don't do ANYTHING but dedicate ALL resources to paying it down. Living 25 years in a "prison". If you want to live too? Even a spartan life? 50 years. Back in the day? Build a cabin through 6 months of hard work. You now have a home for life. Now? Slavery for life. To buy a tiny apartment alone. It's not young people being lazy. Give me a small piece of land to build my small house which is mine. Let me work day and night on it. With tears, sweat and blood. I'm motivated. Now I can continue working, and live life. Today's society? 95%+ of the population is being bled dry. There's no motivation. No incentive for anything. It's not lazy people, it's not work ethics, we are being bled dry as slaves to society to feed the pockets of the 1%. Debt slaves with our lives rotting away with minimal to no return. People who become criminals? Sane. People who run off-grid to live in the wilds? Sane. People choosing to end it all? Sane. People who conform to today's society? Insanity. A lifetime of slavery for the smallest thing, a place to call home. Bled dry from all directions fed into the machine so the 1% can enjoy life at the expense of everyone else. People don't want to work because the oppression of society has reached a point where there is no longer any motive or incentive to do anything. This will only get worse. And worse. And worse.
There's a lot to this. I've long wanted to move out into a cabin in the woods and spend my days meditating and reading/writing philosophy. To even get a crappy, uncleared 1 acre of land in a low COL state you're looking at $20,000. That's before anything is built, any permissions from the local government you need to build are asked for, and etc. $20k, just for 1 acre of land you can put a tent on. And if you do build a cabin, it better not be substandard housing. You'll be forced to add tens of thousands of dollars of features just to bring your house up to code. It's insane. Boomers have done everything to lower the supply of real estate in order to jack up their property values. EVERYTHING.
@@saintsword23 I've also long wanted to do the same thing, but have realized all the issues you wrote there. This whole thing is a rigged game for us to fail.
Because it feels like we can't win the current game. It feels hopeless. Wages are low, inflation is high, and my monthly health insurance premium is $400 a month! Most people aren't complete idiots, when we see that the system isn't working, we give up. The same thing happens in video games, people ragequit...
Speaking of declining benefits, I worked a job 20 years ago, entry level mechanic profession that required trade school and a license. Soon after starting, the coffee creamer was removed from the break room to "save money." A year later, the coffee disappeared too. Even the simplest of pleasure is not worth a couple bucks to employers. And this was 20 years ago!! It is worse now.
I'm in canada and worked at a pot factory. They talked about how important the workers were, we asked for a raise. Nope. They brought in fruit instead in the morning, which people ate so fast that they stopped doing that as well.
It depends what industry you are in. I have worked in the private medical field for a smaller company. The company was genuinely struggling to get by so cut corners. But if you work for a tech company..... the sky is the limit. Free buffet bars and expresso next to the indoor tennis court and mini roller coaster. But even they are tightening their belts now.
@@nerthus4685 Yeah thats not really true about tech. Thats mostly hype. EVERYBODY I know in tech works contracts or else is trying to get something going on the side they hate their job so much.
@@nerthus4685 I've worked in tech since 2010 and have never had a job like that. Most tech jobs aren't the Silicon valley/Google stereotype.
Now the employees have to “chip in” for a f in coffee lol 😂
Work hard and be rewarded I was told , well here I am at 54 having done that all my life and it has got me nowhere. All I saw at first was useless people who would creep their way to better jobs or be promoted because they were too incompetent. Now as a white man I have the diversity targets to compete against on top of these , which means I have no chance . Will never be able to afford to retire but I’m damned now if I’m going to be anything above anonymous, my pride in my work has been kicked out of me and now I just take the pittance I’m offered. My suggestion to young white men is work for yourself or in small companies with no diversity hiring .
I haven't worked for several years, and I can tell you exactly why. Like most people, I went to college, got a BS in a field that was supposedly in demand, but after graduating, couldn't find a job. I don't mean that I applied to a CEO position and got rejected then gave up. I mean I sent out applications and resumes, every day, for almost 6 months, and didn't get a single reply. I wasn't applying for executive positions, senior anything or high level jobs. I was applying to entry level positions in the field that my degree was in. I got a BS in business administration for anyone curious. After 6 months I gave up and got a name tag job. Years later I tried again, and got the same results. You can only deal with a 0% success rate for so long before you give up completely.
Did you try networking?
@@anuragchakraborty8766 Of course, but it never yielded results for me so I think I suck at it pretty badly.
I don't mean to be a jerk, but Business Administration doesn't really have jobs at the end of it; there's little or no demand for this degree. No one is going to hire you even as a low level manager straight out of college just because you have a Business degree. Someone lied to you when they said it's in demand. The business degrees that are in demand are Accounting, MIS, and Actuarial Science. Those have actual jobs at the end of them.
@@saintsword23 No worries, and you are absolutely correct. I graduated back in 2008, right as the great recession was hitting. Back then, a degree in Business Admin was a guaranteed job, because at the height of the economic boom of the 2000's, any degree was. I just happened to graduate at the worst time.
@@fuzzypanda1684 Ah, I see. Well, I'm glad you didn't take me the wrong way. I think our whole generation was lied to about college degrees. I went back in my 30s for Computer Science, and that was the right choice, but "any degree is a good degree" has always been a lie. My grandfather still tells all of us his own variation of it: "any knowledge you get they can't take away from you," to this day!
This entire conversation just enrages me. Im 55 and have worked through 40 years of stagnant wages and the financial collapse. Its a sick game and people are over it. Why so many? Its a winner take all and very few opportunities to be winners.
Im with you. I am retired now and get offers all the time to work. Why the hell would I want to work...Im retired.
Only criminals make it thru this system rich
@@marcduchamp5512 bullshit. Only those who don't have a liberal arts degree.
The days of easy manufacturing low skilled high paying jobs is over. You need to be skilled to make good money now
@@richardramfire3971 I spliced, terminated , and tested fiber optic lines. Set up new splices, performed and live cuts after midnight, had a CDL and the whole nine for $15.50 an hour that's junk wages. Five years of that. Located utilities for USMC in high commercial areas for $12 an hour. Wired two houses a week with one other person for $10 an hour. Worked maintenance for the world's largest tanning bed manufacturer, about 300 beds a day, setting up new production lines and all kinds of stuff $10 an hour. Worked in commercial building construction for 10 years and never made more than $15 an hour. My highest wage was $16.80 doing maintenance for Travel Centers of America. Looking back it's pathetic and outrageous. Now I do odd jobs around town and charge what the market will bare. I'll never work for another employer.
Man, why watch this for an hour? The answer is simple: you can slave for 40-80 hours per week at a "decent" job, sacrificing your social life and hobbies, and STILL not make it. I am not one of these unemployed men, but it's easy for me to understand why this group grows. All the money is continually funneled from our pockets to the top.
You people in the comments keep missing the overall point. Men have been over worked literally for thousands of years, but we’d always work. What changed? The nuclear family changed. There’s more single women/ men than ever before in history. Average women don’t want average men anymore so average men are thinking “ well why do I need to work? I’ll never have a family “
@@tommartyn524 Don't agree. There are many women who dream of a nuclear family with a good, average, working man (despite whatever unimaginable manmade horrors await future generations). For that matter, there are plenty among us who can accept being overworked so long as they can provide well for a family. Right now, for many, that's just not possible. Your woman will be working full time just to pay for childcare, and you'll be working overtime to just barely pay everything else.
@@spartansfan1026 you can disagree all you want but you’d still be factually wrong. Go look at the studies, listen to podcasts, look at the studies on dating apps. Women are setting their filters for 6’3 men who make 6 figures. The average women DOES NOt want the average man. That’s not my opinion, that’s literally what women are saying. Furthermore, I’ll make the same point. Men have been overworked for literally thousands of years and those men were more than Willing to work ? What changed? The nuclear family changed. Average women have turned their backs on average men
@@tommartyn524 So why is it that women want a man making so much money? Because our so-called "job creators" have left the average population sorely lacking in jobs that can support a family. I can't blame women in trying to seek a partner that can provide.
@@spartansfan1026 I knew you would do that. You literally just basically agreed with me and you’ve tried to justify women’s shallowness. “ well yeah women want men who make a lot of money but it’s justified “. Regardless of why women turned their backs on average men; you literally just agreed that they are IN FACT turning their backs On average men. Women have done what I said they’ve done; as to why is a separate discussion entirely
I am a woman and even I do not want to work in corporate America which is why I started my own business. When I was going through interview processes I noticed that HR was more concerned about who they liked than focusing on actual skills and talent and had no idea what they were actually doing. One day I just said screw this and used all of my talent and skills towards my own business. Now I am making 3x-4x more than what those corporations were trying to pay me AFTER business expenses. Moral of the story is don't let corporations sell you short. Your skills and talent are worth more.
Can you talk about how you started your own business & how you managed to be successful?
I agree, but not everyone has the skillset and minset and raw IQ and starting capital and health necessary to start a business. It's a great option for those who do, but not everyone is in that position.
It's called Only Finns
Women in a tech field with HR are completely CLUELESS AND STUPID
I grew up as poor as it gets. My parents were never together while I've been alive, and for the most part, neither of them had much interest in my existence unless one of them needed a scapegoat to yell at, a drink poured, or were looking to "borrow" what little money I may have had. When my mom abandoned me at age 12, I went to another state to live in a tiny condemned house with my poor, unemployed, and psychologically "aggressive" father. In order to have school clothes/supplies and food to eat, I immediately started working two paper routes, which I completed by 6:30 am every day 7 days/week on my bike before going to school - even when there was a blizzard or the temperature was 20 degrees F below zero. In spite of this unfortunate reality, my reading comprehension and mathematical proficiency were tested to be at college level in 7th grade. I never had a tutor or any sort of guidance or assistance from anyone, and the schools I attended were not exceptional. In fact, on the first day of middle school before I even entered the building, a kid walked up, sucker-punched me in the face twice, and informed me that he was "testing out his new brass ring." The teachers weren't much better. On multiple occasions, I was suspected of cheating and subjected to humiliating circumstances like being forced to sit directly in front of the teacher's desk with no one sitting near me while taking an exam; although, I admit that this was partly my fault due to my unusual combination of poor attendance and high test scores. I skipped more classes in high school than I attended, but I still received the highest grade in the class and set the curve for most of the exams when I took AP Calculus as a senior. I had no clue what I was supposed to do when I graduated at age 17, but I'd wanted to be an engineer since before I even knew there was a word for it, and that wasn't going to happen while living with a psychological terrorist coming at me constantly, so got out of the condemned house. After working a few years, I found my way into college, which is when I decided to focus more effort on school. I made the Dean's list most semesters, inadvertently won my school's annual writing contest resulting in having a paper published, tutored mathematics up through multivariable calculus, joined the university's engineering honor society, and even qualified for Mensa (out of curiosity) before graduating with honors and a B.S. in Mechanical Engineering. I thought I had a job lined up at Honda after graduation, but that fell through, and I applied for hundreds of engineering jobs with no success. I ended up taking a job as a technician at a local manufacturing facility because I couldn't even get a call back for an engineering job. The first thing I noticed at the new job was that literally 100% of the ~200 employees working on the extremely hot production floor were men. It was pretty much a sweat shop. During the training I did a tour of the whole place, which included the air conditioned offices upstairs where all the engineers worked, and they happened to be in a meeting at the time. Every single one was a woman in her early-mid twenties-including the person that got hired for the job I couldn't even get an interview for - except for one guy. I was blown away by that because most of my upper division engineering classes had zero women in them. The real slap in the face was that (as far as I could tell) they didn't have the passion for problem solving or intense curiosity about how things fundamentally work that I expect to see in a good engineer - it was just another job to them. It all really started to make sense when I learned that they had a female CEO that was constantly praising herself along with the few other women in the company. Despite the fact that between all 8 facilities and probably 1000 employees there were only maybe 30 women (all in office/HR positions), the timeline on the company webpage almost exclusively celebrated female employees and every possible holiday specific to women - zero recognition of anything to do with men. I didn't work there long. Now I live in an old truck and rarely speak to anyone. Holidays are over by the time they even cross my mind. Sure, I'm a failure, but don't tell me I never tried.
For the love of God don't get married and don't have kids. if you're a man you'll be just fine trust me.
Don’t give up. You survived and endeavoured through all of that… you most definitely can get yourself out of your situation.
Don’t give up. You survived and endeavoured through all of that… you most definitely can get yourself out of your situation.
Minimum wage $7.25. "Why is nobody applying for this job?" Yeah, it's a real mystery.
😂 right. Doesn't even include that technically due to inflation AND govt taxes, your really making like 3 or 4 bucks an hr. Real mystery. Back breaking work for something that in an 8 hr shift you wouldn't even be able to pay one simple bill now a days.
Bingo!
Yup federal min. Has been 7 25 for over 20 years even when the great recession in 2008 . The data is obvious. Why do u think native born school graduates are more likely to not be working than less educated immigrants? It's not cuz of the American dream .working a dead end job for a multi billion dollar corporation isn't ever going to get u the American dream.. no offense to immigrants, I glad they do it cuz I can't...yea there's a Macdonalds by my house and every single one speak Spanish as 1st language, none of them are making a living or reasonable age .I'd never apply for that job ever sorry..most Americans know why they don't want those jobs because there's no reason to be there
Yea I feel bad for some states. Atleast in Washington the min is 17.50 but I've never seen jobs that low so altho have had many different jobs ,if haven't made under 20 for like 7 years out of my 10 years of working. So I can actually make almost 200 in a day. It doesn't go far there but it feels better mentally
The minimum wage is $7.50 in my State...but most places offer $15+ for entry level jobs. They only want people who can produce $17.89 or more in goods or services because they pay payroll taxes in addition to wages. $15 is what the Market says is necessary to get applicants.
I’ve gotta throw in my 2 cents because I’ve had to personally deal with this over the last 3 years. It’s a myth, in my experience, that there are millions and millions of jobs out there at the moment. I left the military in 2019 and have had an impossible time finding a job. The only work I’ve been able to get is driving part time for my father in law. I was an aerospace engineering officer in the air force. I have a BSc in mathematics and am currently doing a MSc in Comp Sci part time. I’ve applied to hundreds of jobs that I’m qualified for, over qualified for, under qualified for. I’ve applied to many veteran friendly companies and used vet resources. Fuck all. I’ve had maybe 10 interviews over the last 3 years and none of them went anywhere. It’s actually crazy. I’ve tried to get help many times from people including HR professionals and everyone says I have a great resume.. but at the end of the day I’m still here driving a truck.
Its standard operating procedure to have a poorly designed ATS system and an incompetent HR department to filter out any competent resumes. Most of the HR Admins I knew are cultural marxists and can barely read.
This is starting to become the norm in society where it's not *what* you know, it's *who* you know. You know: *nepotism!* Back door dealings! I wholeheartly agree that it's a myth that there's "millions to over 10 million jobs that needs to be filled". If there are that many jobs, then why do employers have such high fucking standards that even people like me who have a BS in Comp Sci with years experience working on Cisco equipment am not qualified nor chosen for a work. We have a massive *employer* problem, or more specifically, we have a massive HR problem.
Have you learned about ATS systems by any chance? I had luck with worse credentials than you because I learned how to organically tailor my resumes to specific positions.
"Yo bro, you just like, have to want it man" - every podcast on earth
@@beneficent2557 got any articles you reccomend?
If you're unemployed and have no intention of getting married and employed, I understand you. As long you're not one of the guys who destroyed their own health and trust big pharma and government to fix it, unemployment just means you have self-respect and aren't a willing slave at this point. I work a different job every couple of months. Some I quit on the first day. And it's not laziness or feeling entitled just because I have a college education. I actually enjoy exertion and manual work and always worked those sorts of jobs and always had energy left for physical hobbies after work. Despite the crisis and shortage of white collar jobs, there's lots of work everywhere here in Croatia if you don't mind physical labor. Yet every single job either has *lots* of mandatory yet somehow legal overtime, has me breathing in toxic fumes and dust with no protection ("Oh, don't be a wuss! We all eat from aluminum foil, so its fine dust can't possibly be toxic!"), or instead of having me be someone's apprentice to actually learn the damn job properly in the first place, immediately has me responsible for teaching and organizing 5-10 immigrants because I speak 4 European languages while most Croats employed in blue collar work speak none. No leadership and organization tasks ever get mentioned at the job interview or in the job description, yet once I start it's: "Oh btw, show these guys the basics! You'll find a way to communicate!" These are African, Filipino, Indian, Nepalese, Syrian immigrants who barely speak a word of any of my languages. Every employer I find in manual work has a bunch of them. They are always a huge loss to productivity and they demand extra attention outside of work. They need company organized accommodation because they can't even take care of that themselves. Many of them are literally slaves and are in the country illegally via shady agencies. Inspectors and various other bureaucrats need to be bribed. Doctors need to be bribed to take care of their medical emergencies off the grid. Some need to be bailed out in the middle of the night for drunkenness and if they're the illegal ones that entails yet more bribes. Some have outbursts of rage spontaneously at work. It's not racist to say any of this. In fact, the half-literate rural Croats and Bosniaks here are worse than most foreigners anyway. These employers are damaging their own companies with irresponsible hiring and in many cases it's driving away their most productive employees to go seek work abroad. I can't shake the feeling at this point that most of them would rather have slaves to abuse to try to fill holes in their egos, than having efficient workers getting more things done. Never once have I quit because of low pay. I just want some healthy conditions and I want to enjoy focusing on doing the damn thing instead of worrying about how to teach something I'm not very competent at yet to a bunch of lazy illiterate drunks. I own a house and have no debt and no addictions. I'd have already given up on the rotten system and just accepted the dole by now if my family didn't have too much income and too much property for me to be able to qualify for any category of it. Free time and less money sounds way better than having sodding lead, glue, paint, thinner etc. in my skin and lungs 9-10 hours a day and worrying which scumbag might try to stab me or push me off a ladder or scaffold in their next temper tantrum.
I've had the same job for almost 6 years now and I can not find a relationship. That is something I actually want but it is something I just can't find and it's really making things seem like they are pointless and I basically just live the same thing every day
Ive been asked by family so many times what my plan for the future is. Like im living it, i call it the 3 w’s: work, weights, warhammer. I have no wife or kids to motivate me to go to college and study day and night or go learn a trade and break my body to earn more for a family. Who cares. Lifes easy right now. I pay my bills, im healthy, my jobs easy as hell, i have enjoyable hobbies.
What's your job if you don't mind me asking?
As a 60 yr old male living in the USA I have been told so many times "we want a woman for this job" or "you are overqualified for this job". Many of us have been told to go away and not just in the job dept.
No one has told you they want a woman for this job, because that’s EEOC violation you could take action against. Come on.
@@ronswansonsdog2833 that just shows me how ignorant of reality you are.
@@andred3299 no money in it. No lawyer would take it.
Yes!!! Being told you’re overqualified. How absolutely stupid is that? To turn away a prospective employee excuses they’re too good?
@@ronswansonsdog2833even if they did want a woman it's because they have mostly men.
Many say no work, no reward. I say, "No Reward, No Work."
How is that working out for you? Because the video says these types are killing themselves.
I like the way you think......:)
@anniealexander9616 That's kind of going to be a problem for you, Annie, since males keep the lights and air conditioning along with a million other facets of civilisation going.
@@anniealexander9616 im chillin
@@dasit6034 I'm chillin too. The difference is I've built wealth. Yesterday, I used that wealth to day trade. Last week, I was told off by a guy I won't see. He won't work and I don't want to support a man. He was working when I met him but he quickly got fired. He has got another job since then and quit. He lives off his brother. He wants to move with me and build a classic car in my garage. He wants me to get $200 cable. He also informed me he wanted his buddies to come over and chill. Meanwhile, he expects me to be working and paying the bills.
Let’s see, bullying managers, bullying HR, passive aggressive work policies, work place politics, leave, KPIs, leaving home in the dark/ getting home in the dark, working in the PM at w/ ends just to keep your head above water, workplace favourites, cost of petrol, parking , that sense that your living to work. Knowing that when you leave no one will miss you after two or three days ! Just off the top of me head like!
I just cant figure it out 🤔
I worked for 6 weeks at a Las Vegas hotel in an entry level jov. I am a late 40s woman. The managers and coworkers were all 20 somethings. Out of 25 employees maybe 2 of them had a somewhat ok work ethic. One manager stood by for 8 hours doing nothing while I folded towels the whole time. Yeah. See ya.
I'm a university graduate in my mid 50's now, with a successful 30 year professional career. Many years ago I saw a future, a house, a good woman, a nice retirement. Now I see none of that, just total disillusionment as I watch everything being taken away and I see an old age of hardship. My dad taught me to be an honest, hardworking, responsible man. He was right to do that, but where does it get us? I watch terrible, lying people prosper. Why bother? There is no meaning in any of it and I'd walk away from it all in a heartbeat.
You could make a difference with 1 person and pass it on.
GED, non-college,blue and gray collar tasker, frugal, long term aggressively invested in large caps (until recently) retired 7 years ago under 50, wife works part time at a job she loves with good medical benefits. We are low income, high assets so we don’t get any government cheese but we don’t pay for so many other peoples “bad luck” any more
@@Savagetennis that is not guaranteed to be effective.
Why should the fact that an incredibly small minority prosper cause anyone to just "give up" and throw in the towel? Makes no sense whatsoever..
@Jonathan Bell you need guarantees? There is your own personal satisfaction that you can learn to seek through helping others. Who said life is fair? Who said guarantees are included? Life is earned not deserved. And life isn't easy and it is tragic. But it was given to you. Seek and explore.
Imagine instead of running a cool youtube channel where you get to flex your charisma and intellect you instead were picking up and putting down endless boxes everyday while being told your company is a vampire who exploits you, and women call you poor for making under 6 figures. Sounds pretty bad.
Imagine instead of pursuing your whims, skipping school and getting drunk and laid in your late teens/early twenties you've studied, read books and delayed gratification to get a fulfilling job and life security?
Imagine if your wages steadily were decreasing since you started working in construction back in the early ‘00s. Every year the wages go down. Guys that own their own little contracting company have to compete with guys that are undercutting you by thousands of dollars because they pay their workers 8 dollars an hour, while prevailing wages is around 30 dollars an hour. Every roofing company is 90% illegal labor. The other ten are the guys doing the estimates. How are you supposed to compete against that? It isn’t a victim mentality, it’s the sad reality of what it’s like being a blue collar worker today.
Imagine if you were an adult who understood that life isn't fair, and that all of your problems are your own fault.
Well guys, at least I don't have to tell you to "use your imagination".
@@smelltheglove2038 imagine complaining about working 40 hours a week when a hundred years ago we worked all day every day or we died 😂
This Eberstadt guy is a member of the World Economic Forum. What a shocker.
I gave up years ago. Homeless and living out of my car and never been happier
Men don't want to work because the benefits don't outweight the work. Because Women don't value that a man is willing to work a shit job for them and don't care that they smoke themselves to provide for their family. Men went from being supported and held in high esteem to now be chastised and not appreciated. Men finally said, F it. The juice just isn't worth the squeeze.
So you want women to want losers because you bust your ass at a shit job that can’t pay bills??
Truth. Almost every man I know has been destroyed by divorce and child support. Women will divorce for almost no reason and family Courts will reward them for it.
I agree
You speak for the vast majority which is the right thing to do. Can't live off of exceptions.
I totally agree!! Because why would I want to be with someone who was insensitive and not able to articulate their feelings but instead want me to be below them in order for them to feel good I'm so not about being mistreated and unappreciated.
If owning a home, having a young wife and a family seem like a pipe dream then men wont turn up for work. Society has to offer these men something, they don't owe us their labour doing these tough jobs.
Absolutely! Near where I live they're building new apartments practically as far as the eye can see in one area, it's how they'll get to Klaus' "You will own nothing and you will be happy", I don't want to be a rent slave, I want to own a house on some land someday
they will just hire mexicans and foreigners to do the work
@@dirankomorov then what you need to do is organized get politically active run for office be the change you want to see.
@@gamingforever9121You clearly don't know how the world works.
@@jakryan1497 I do it’s why I’m telling you stop being a black pilled bitch be the change you want. What’s stopping you consequences? If you feel things are truly bad then fuck the consequences. Do what feel you gotta do regardless.
Rich & not working: OK. Poor & not working: Scandal!!!
Well, ya, that one is pretty explainable: rich and not working means you can still pay your own way. Poor and not working means others/society has to take care of you.
@@saintsword23 If illegal immigrants get paid for doing nothing, why shouldn't we?
@@PrivateSnafu14 No one should get paid for doing nothing. Rich and not working means you already DID get paid. Huge difference.
I am 52 years old and had my neck broken and my back broken and I'm still working. Because it's work or starve because. I can't get any help. I'm in so much pain every day I can't stand it but denied my disability benefits. I think it's because there is virtually no mechanics left in our society.
People used to live in tribes, and the feeling of contributing for the tribe, being someone that people depend on and being appreciated is wired in our DNA. In today’s environment, whatever job you do, you don’t feel that anyone appreciates it. The problem is us. We do not appreciate when the server brings our food , or when the mailman delivers our mail or the moving company moves all our stuff. Any one of us can die or be replaced, and probably only a few people around you will notice, and that makes this society the way it is. We do not respect and appreciate each other. We see the world through the lenses of money.
And also there's too many of us thanks to overpopulation. Which makes us all easily replaceable and therefore undervalued. It's not that hard to figure out, simply supply & demand when it comes to manpower.
Wise words.
I have thought of this before. Another point of view is that all aspects of our lives are fragmented and compartmentalized, you work with people that are not from your neighbourhood or that take no part in the remaining of your life, to the point that if you change jobs you likely will never see them again. Compare that with living in a small village, being the local baker, you don`t only make bread for your own profit, you sell it to your neighbour who possibly does some service to you, carpentry or whatever and so on. It creates a web of relationships and not this situation that we are where everything is out of vanity, there is not the web of relationships around you. Edit: Minor grammar corrections.
You said exactly what I've been thinking and feeling for so long
Very underrated comment. This should be in the video.
The simple fact that men being paid to do physical labour, at a minimal rate, and being shown no consideration for that effort, left battered and broken, is why men do not want to continue being used, ignored and latterly disregarded. In this 'new world' of equality and diversity how is that young men are still being used and abused as a beast of burden yet the media remain silent after decades of broken bodies that are then treated like a parasite on society because they are no longer able to work?
someone i know who has worked and paid taxes his whole life was not given temporary accommodation when left homeless after breaking it off with his ex-girlfriend, he had to live in his car. Men are tossed aside so we can home and pay for single mothers. When we stop catering to men and encouraging masculinity, society collapses.
Here here brother.
@@scsherman207so get educated so you can get a job in HR?
@@brianmeen2158 retard-tier reply
@@brianmeen2158Lack of interest, lack of particular aptitude, lack of acceptable genitals and/or melanin concentration to be considered, and ethical opposition to accepting a role so pointless and unfairly well compensated come immediately to mind.
I retired early. The work place has turned into a toxic dump. I thought it was just where I worked for 25 years. I found out with trying a few. Also a lot of companies advertise jobs that are either not there or are fake in that they only want a filler until someone comes back, short contract that will end, safety is a. buzz word and many others. Add to that that many managers are drunks, drug users and mentally or emotionally ill. I'll stay retired. Pass the popcorn.
@@camrobertson1886 So True, not a good thing to do. Also, never seen a manager yet, that had to do through a random drug test. 🤣Pass the pop corn.
Nah.. not taking a job for crap pay. "Nobody wants to work" = everyone is smart enough not to take crap wages
Why work when the government paid you to sit at home on 80% salary.
I think that people feel defeated by the insane cost of living. Long gone are the days when 40 hours a week would get you a house, long gone are the days when you can find a decent spouse.
Women used to find a man with potential. They used to serve as the primary motivator for male success. Now you already have to be financially stable (preferably well off) in order to make eye contact with the ogre woman working at fuckin' 711.
Used to be able to have a family and kids and house on ONE lower middle-class salary.
this
I just saw a listing for a crummy one-story house in my town behind a chinese restaurant and a nursing home. Half a million bucks. Yup, Ill never own a house.
Exactly. Let's see though how these billionaires who own corporations and politicians fair when men men drop out of society completely and they can't continue their corporate operations. And it's their fault
I've worked all my life, and am currently changing jobs for the 1st time in a decade and the application and recruitment process is insane now. Inflated requirements and credentials, multiple phone and in person interviews, long and invasive background checks including my wage, medical and credit history, passing their drug tests (which I understand for some types of work). It's been almost a month! It feels like they try to starve you out so by the time they extend you an offer they can low ball it and you're too desperate to refuse. Not to mention you need to tailor each resume and write each company a little fluff peice with the right buzzwords so you get their attention.
The job application process is broken. No one will talk about it because HR so wants the online job system to work but it doesn't. It is a waist land of unqualified applicants and favors only people with some connection or relationship with the company or employee.
Or how about they interview you 3 times and say you are at the top and then you don't hear from them for 3 weeks and you ask what happened and oh they decided to go with someone else.
@@ch-yq5yn or, they want you to do a special report or project unpaid?
i've been jumping through jobs every 3 to 5 years. mainly because every single employer i've worked for has been nothing but toxic and abusive. i've set a number of rules for myself, the first one being to always keep looking for a better paying job. rule 2, the longer i stay, the more work they dump on me and refuse to compensate for it. this has happened every single time. rule 3, constantly update resume and develop a network of contacts for references that are guaranteed to provide positive feedback to the morons in HR. rule 4, always tell myself never to be loyal to any company. the cup of coffee worth in raises is not worth it always find a new job that pays $10k to 20k more than the previous job. because the 3% raise really helps so much when food costs are up 300% and rent goes up 15%. remember, these corporations raised prices on their products, so they are making huge profits, yet they are keeping salaries low. never ever thing less of yourself. i am tired of this foolishness, tired of being in this game.
@@BobRooney290 Amen
When you grow up in a world that teaches you nothing about it for about 2 decades but expects you to know everything about it without ever providing you the means, you get the “manchild”. Because most of these men grew up without the guidance of men.
I always laugh when I hear about employers complaining about not having people for their jobs. The reason why jobs go unfilled is because the employer does a terrible job at posting the job, adding qualifiers above what is necessary, and never actually going through the applications that they do have. It's really very simple- employers do not have a clue what they are looking for and they put almost no effort into getting employees. Secondly the usual way that people would traditionally get jobs is through families, one relative would recommend their relative and they would be hired on- this isn't happening anymore.
Nah. The biggest reason is that they just don't pay enough. Hell, I make over $300k/year, not in some major, expensive coastal city, and I live in a fucking townhouse. But at least I get to own it, and it's in a really nice area. I could get a really shitty old house with a small yard, or I could move way out into the sticks away from groceries, airports, etc, but...nah, I'd really rather not. Capital is simply too powerful right now. People withdrawing labor from the market because the juice isn't worth the squeeze isn't just a reasonable thing to do, it's also a very moral thing to do if you're able to, because it increases the bargaining power of everyone else.
The majority of my friends are making over 110k a year, and THEY ARE ALL MISERABLE! Most of them are burned out, PTSD, and extremely lonely! That's why i moved to St Thomas in 2017 after being an engineer for 5 years and became a bar tender, making 35k a year. BEST DECISION OF MY LIFE! Now I'm truly connected to nature and happy people. 😁
No incentive to work. For me is not worth going to college. Is better to work.
Also people moving to Asia countries like Malaysia, Thailand, Philippines and Indonesia they are living comfortable life without headache
There is a price to pay for those high salaries.
do they still have open bar tender jobs in St Thomas? Since you're still there, it seems to be a sweet deal...
They shouldn't be miserable. You're supposed to do that kind of work for only a few years, live like you're homeless and save all the income so you can quit asap and retire in your 30s. If they did that they would be happy for the rest of their life.
At 52, I have decided to stop working. I have no kids,no mortgage,no car payments; and live very cheaply. And with the direction government has taken, I have no desire to pay income tax to further fuel their stupidity. I am actually really enjoying it. I can actually do things I like to do.
where does the money come from?
I am 51 years of age. I have been investing in metals since 20 years of age and keeping the metals in a remote location, locked up very tightly. My job pays extremely handsomely, even more than what college graduates make. That allowed me a lot more income to buy metals. I believe I have just under 4 million dollars in various metals, under estimating the cost of the various metals. I am so close to never working again. My vehicle has been paid in full for 22 years. My house has been paid in full ten years this year. I have no debt at all. I do not use banks. I have absolutely no credit accounts at all. I pay everything cash. It may be time to bring my vast metal investments to metal brokers and have a lot of cash to live the next ten to 48 years, depending on when I die.
@@theessentials450 Savings/inheritance
Hope you have health insurance.
@@genemartinez2833 Go to Mexico a lot lot lot cheaper there. You are being milked dry in the US medical mafia enterprise
I studied to be a geologist, 6 years. I love the outdoors, mountains, hiking. I ended up doing a mind-numbing desk job. I quit after 3 years. Building a career is also just torture. Low-income, no free time at some 'competitive' contractor. After a decade you can look forward to the fun stuff. Hell no. I was wasting my life. I was lost, bored and depressed. I sold everything, burnt all my bridges, went to Africa and volunteered in wildlife law enforcement. No proper income, but lots of fun, adventure and experience. Best decision ever. 20 years later I am now a comic artist, sharing my fun experiences. I've had a good life do far, but I couldn't have done it without first shedding myself of these social expectations.
wow!
So funny about the burnt all my bridges part 😂..
What a noble job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love animals, but hate poachers!
Congrats to you! You came to the realization young and pulled yourself out of the matrix! I too am much happier after leaving the "cult" of main stream society. If you have a pulse you should have a bachelor degree, work in corporate hell America, married, 2.2 kids, house and strive to make the 6 figure salary. So glad I said pick a finger to that and never looked back and couldn't be happier, I love life!
So true!
Why contribute to a society that feels entitled to your labor and not only does it lack gratitude for your contributions but actively resents you, demonizes you, and works against you?
GREAT, SIT HOME and let me know how that works out ! PS- plan on living in your car or even less - a grocery cart
It seems to me that we all live in a super competitive society that is built around the promotion of the most highly successful people (i.e. the brightest, best looking, most athletic, highest educated, etc., etc.) It is like we are on a fast moving train that you must stay on at all costs. If you fall from this train, as in commit a felony, born physically unattractive, aren't financially affuent, uneducated, or are not gifted in some other socially acceptable way, you are going to find it extremely difficult to get back on socierty's train. And when that happens you are going to be left behind. The people around you are going to see YOU as the problem. How is any person in this predicament going to see how they have a path forward? They see a bleak future will little, if any, chance to change their life. No education, no job, no dates, no future. Society doesn't appear to be willing, or able, to throw them a lifeline.
I recently described it as being overboard, treading water - yet everyone on deck is sipping champagne, just staring at you instead of tossing in the rope ladder.
Well said sir!@@jcantonelli1
@@jcantonelli1 That's been life in a nutshell for me in my 38 years.
I'm a 32 year old software engineer in this boat. Incredibly tired of the insatiable growth culture, lionization of work as life's purpose, and emphasis on hype over quality. I'm financially stable and have very little expenses so it's hard to convince myself to go back to work when I was largely miserable when working.
Look at your assets and do some math, you might be able to retire soon. I'm also a software engineer with low expenses, and should be able to stop working around 35 and live off investment income, although I might go a bit longer since working from home is pretty chill.
@@elmateo77 If I stay single forever and could reasonably get by without medical insurance I could probably retire now. I own my house, my mortgage is fully paid off, live in a state with very low taxes, and my total expenses are under $10k a year (outside of vacations). I do want kids at some point and / or would like to continue to vacation so I'll probably return to work soon but I certainly don't see that lasting too long.
@@elmateo77 locking down 10 year CD's between 4 to 5% will help with supplemental income. having a 2nd home/apt you can rent out also helps.
@@elmateo77 Exactly what I did...I retired last year at 31 having sold my share (40%) of my 8-year-old business to the remaining partners at a huge discount & I've done well with my property/stocks/crypto too. I've always maintained that we should only work for a secure future & to do things that we want to do, not to get ludicrously rich...ergo attaining financial freedom was the catalyst for me to exodus the 60 hrs/wk grind. The only real downside is that I don't get that fantastic Saturday morning or holiday "Ahhh no work today" feeling when I wake up anymore! 😁
I have seen early retirement people go two ways. The first cohort cannot stay still and they volunteer or seriously pursue some long term project to fill their schedules. The second cohort just stay stagnant and only do the bare minimum -- this cohort almost always end in tragedy if they don't switch to be productive because they essentially become zoo animals bored out of their minds. Often it was either suicide or drug overdose or some other form of death.
Yes, It's so hard to understand why a man would not want to spend his entire life working for a company that simply doesn't care whether he lives or dies and will sack him the moment his paid time off runs out, whether he's lying on a beach or in a hospital bed.
Wow. It's almost like businesses have something better to do with their time and energies than hold your hand. If you want a company to REALLY CARE about you; start your own business. If you want people to really care about you; start a family. If you really need a friend; get a dog.
@@joeBishop866 Very true and yet most of these comments here think a random business is supposed to be your friend/family. Its a job you do for money. You can find a business that you make friends in or what have you but in the end of the day.. Its a job. Its as if people today want a business to be a parent or something. Society is collapsing.
That is spot on. I agree that corporate life can be soul killing, but then learn a trade. Be a plumber, set tile, shoe horses, drive a truck, train to be a police officer, etc. I live in a very blue collar area, and all the men are working, have families, throw parties, go to sporting events, and they all seem at least reasonably happy with their lives. Not to mention the fact that many of the make pretty good money.
id rather be lying on a beach, so take this job and shove it lol
@@joeBishop866 This is a heavily culturally biased mentality that is not the be all and end all mindset of how the world of work and business should work. It is merely the mentality that America itself has chosen to follow and these are the consequences. It's not how things have always worked. While there obviously has always been a bias towards self-interest throughout time, the way systems worked have changed over the years for numerous reasons that have ultimately lead to the state of the world we see today. Back in the middle ages, you ploughed fields and lived on the edge of poverty with the possibility of getting murdered by invaders or you willingly put your life on the line and fought battles for glory, wealth and status. Times were more simple back then for better or for worse. Nowadays things are complicated. Mo matter which way you look at it, life has always been about survival of the fittest but now we live in a world where veterans who have been released from duty are struggling to adapt to civilian life because of how complex it is. To do anything in life nowadays, you have to fill in a billion forms and go through a ton of legislation and people are both intimidated and fatigued by this. Therefore, they choose to instead turn to the few things that form filling and legislation is not a barrier of entry, things they can just go and do immediately. When you look at videogames for example and the instant gratification they bring when you accomplish something that would take ages to accomplish in real life, you can clearly see the problem. There's too much red tape and legislation, too many forms, too many registrations and other complications of the like. You didn't need to have qualifications back in the day, college was a luxury, now it's become somewhat of a mandatory gateway that more or less everyone goes though and by the end of it, they are no better off because their competitors all went through the same process and came out with the same results and when they apply for the job, they are turned down because they don't have the necessary experience. Qualifications are worthless in that regard. The world has become too clinical and legislation is what has caused all of this. Attempts to improve social systems over the years has brought upon too many complications. People look at employers as heartless and evil but they too are a victim of this clinical environment of over-legislation that presents a huge minefield for them to navigate and therefore the nature of employment has changed as a result of legislation. It's no secret that many people out there who are working low income jobs are employed solely as a result of legal loopholes and their careers are literally hanging by a horse hair. How can we have a world where we have connection and empathy when over legislation has created this clinical void? You can't even volunteer for unpaid work without filling in forms anymore. It's all because of people using the court systems to file lawsuits for compensation and companies have to cover their backs and they need to get solicitors to do this which adds more to the costs. Why do you think so many people go to law school? That's where all the money is, because Law plays a role in everything and knowledge of Law is in high demand because Law is so complicated now. On top of this, you have companies that are mostly owned by wealthy people in the middle east, some of which have never run a business in their lives who are greatly influencing the decision process of how companies operate for the sake of short term gain so that they can profit from trading stock. When companies are publicly run, who is ultimately going to be held accountable? The CEO can't be held accountable because they're just an employee and they can resign at any time with a guaranteed job position elsewhere offering the same wealth and status. If no one is being held accountable, it means that these shareholders can get away with basically anything they want at the expense of both employees and customers of the service. What irks me is that despite all of this legislation, we still do not have a law that forbids companies from allowing public shareholders and requires shareholders to be connected to the company in some way, requiring them to work a station of some sort. If you aren't working in the company, why should you have any rights of ownership? It's all wrong. Yet somehow we have all these other regulations that are constantly bombarding both employers and employees. We are being suffocated by it.
Job pays $15, no health benefits, taxes take $6, your rent is $1500 for a small bedroom with 5 roomates. Why bother?
They told me you get tax back of your paid like slavery a long time ago
People see retired people that worked hard all their lives treated as disposable commodities , useless eaters and a drain on society and question what is the point of working ? Nobody wants to be exploited , under valued and treated like fools and the way the elderly are treated points to this especially in the UK with pensions that barely keep retired elderly folk above the breadline and with constant threats to reduce them further .
I don't think this is why men aren't working. They're not working because work doesn't have a purpose. Men would be willing to brave poverty, hardship, and even the risk of death if there was something worth the cause, but all the things that men used to find purpose in have been destroyed: owning property (way too expensive), starting a family (difficult to do, and then if you do you can just get bent over in divorce court), living for God (religion is gutted), improving your society and defending your country (the society isn't worth defending anymore).
I know a few older men that have given up on everything, but basically their life. Each one of them got screwed over hard by their spouse, were forcibly estranged from their children by the courts, lost and lost most of their assets ending up on someone else's futon after a lifetime of working hard for those people. They ended in deep debilitating depressions. It's amazing they avoided suicide. These men do not leave their home for any reason avoiding people at all costs. They are basically agoraphobic now. I believe that if they were forced out of there homes they would probably end their lives. btw, they are all on anti-depressants and none smoke weed or drink alcohol.
In all the religious scripts, there is the idea of feminine submission to their man. So women in the West got duped into thinking they were strong and independent and that any form of submission is a sign of weakness. It always haunts me to see how the Asian immigrants who come here behave in comparison with their local counterparts. You just know they make better wives than their argumentative Western counterparts. I'm genuinely surprised that Western women have not begun a mass awakening of how they've been played. Then again, it is men who are the true truth seekers, not women. Just look at the amount of women who believe in Astrology lol.
exactly, men are lazy when they no longer have skin in the game. They no longer have anything to live/fight for. they are attacked an vilified by society. And I don't blame them for it. they feel helpless, and see work as pointless, and it's not by their own making.
Just sitting in the house sulking will make everything worse. Get up and go outside.
@@SoloRenegade Its a perfect storm of the HR automated resume system, feminism, information destroying the bubble of our nation being the greatest, and addicting screens. Hopefully AGI can improve and build replicating robots so that we don't need to work as much and can live in a VR heaven.
@@aoeu256 it's Far more than just that
Why would young men maintain with their hard work and taxes a society that hates them, belittle them, slave them, and have to pay for children not 9f their own?
Paying for children not your own? What are you even talking about?
@@donttreadonweeee9478 child support, they can chain you to pay for HER kids no matter what paternity test say, it's paternity fraud.
@@donttreadonweeee9478 Taxes go to welfare mommas with several kids. Taxes also go to defense/airspace CEOs and their kids.
@@donttreadonweeee9478 your tax money is given to single mothers. Dur
@@Macheako Takes a man and a woman to produce a baby. Do you think these women are getting pregnant magically from god? If you are going to punish women and children you need to also punish the shitty men that impregnate them and leave them.
I'm one of the 7 million. I quit my job after being so miserable for 3 years. It got to the point that I didn't even wanna get up in the morning. I worked in collections where there was endless productivity. Every week was the same. If we made goal, we got cookies or a pizza party. The day before I quit they wanted to train me as a supervisor but without the title or pay. That just meant they'd be able to stick you with more work. Plus, the 1 hour 20 minute drive in bumper to bumper traffic was a whole other story. Basically, if you've seen the movie office space, that was my life.i knew i needed out. Been unemployed for 4 years with a few seasonal jobs in 2022 and 2023. Moved out of state and trying to find something new.
I feel your frustration. Good luck.
I normally quit jobs until I run out of money and the cycle repeats
GREAT JOB ..... now you can sit home and scratch your baalls all day
Yep. There’s no doubt about how expensive “life” is these days. Living in poverty is no joke, and seeing comments like “you should have planned better,” or “you should have gotten a better job,” really infuriates me. These people have zero clue. I always tell them : "That's not an argument, it's a moral posture". No matter how much one "should have", these situations will continue to arise under the current economic conditions : it's a statistical fact. ..And therefore it's necessary to act. We need a UBI yesterday, not just for workers who are falling behind, but for the disabled, the homeless, the poor, and for pensioners. Being older doesn’t mean life gets less expensive. It doesn’t.
Can’t give money to fent addicts.
My brother worked all his life and supported his wife through 12 years of studying only for her to kick him out at the end and take him to the cleaners. He was virtually homeless. Why would anyone bother will conditions like that ?
@@johnashley6858He is retarded for not having any hidden assets. And for paying for someone's "education" for 12 years. What did he marry, a preschooler? Nobody needs that much "education" and you should marry a woman who paid for her own education.
that's an indictment of females and marriage... no one elses fault.
Mikedowning4869 I'm not saying thats not true as I've heard too many similar stories to think otherwise but I also wonder is it always as one sided as it seems. A lot can happen in 12 yrs in a marriage so its not necessarily as using someone as it seems.. though certainly that's possible as well. Even if not the main reason a woman gets married. It may very well be that she has little to lose by taking a chance. Courts really seem to favor women/mothers. I am a female who is mid 50's but did not marry. I simply really didn't find the right guyvn didn't want to just use someone until he came along or for financial reasons. Certainly not all women do this but far too many do.
I try to warn my sons, but they won't listen. There is literally no reason to get married as a man!!!!!!!!!
@@mkelly4042 Marriage takes a lot of work, lots of pushing through bad times, and is easier with 2 having similar goals and attitudes. Unfortunately, even though courts favor women, most women who divorce really end up worse than the man, a house doesn't pay for itself. My wife and I had almost 40 years together before she died, and not all those years were perfect bliss, believe me, but life is a mess no matter what.
What motivate men to work is to provide for their loved ones, if they dont have, they dont care to it and gonna live with the bare minimum for survival
I do think this is the norm. Many people would take any work to provide for kids, married or single parent. The indignity seems a bit east to swallow when the sun is to care for loved ones.
It's really that simple.
Johnny Paycheck, the comedy country singer said that 40 years ago in his song "Take this job and shove it"......
Or they will work 2 jobs. Mans gotta do what a man's gotta be doing.
This. If the job doesn't even pay enough to allow you to support your loved ones, then what's the point? It's not that men don't want to work. It's that they don't want to work and still not be able to support their families. A man's wage is not enough these days. 2 wages are required just to get by.
Yes, usually the pay is not enough and the employer doesnt treat the worker with the respect that they deserve. But also, theres no feeling of accomplishment or pride. Especially for single men without children. For what reason should we work hard? Who are we helping, what are we accomplishing? Everyone needs something to fight for, and appreciation for the sacrifices that they make.
Its hard to be absolutely childless, but the problem is to maintain ourselves we need 2.1. So just even having 2 isnt enough anymore for most young people. A large number need to now have 4 or 5 to compensate. It doesnt happen of course, the old countries like Italy and Spain are good examples where they are well below 2, and its hard to see any end in sight.
So true. People don't feel appreciated, hence this situation.
I can't blame people when even for a mundane job at a supermarket they put you through lengthy tests designed to weed you out if you don't fit exactly what they want. it's very demeaning to be rejected constantly without hearing anything back - bit like online dating really!
Walmart is fucking notorious for that. I just want to fucking work early mornings and stock food on the shelves. I don't want to take a 200 fucking question quiz on how to deal with people. That's for the god damn managers, who don't do their job anyway at these supermarkets.
yep those questionnaires are wild. if you don't commit every answer to making yourself out to be an obedient little slave with no discretion for circumstantial adaptation, you're basically forfeiting your chances of getting hired.
@Roger McMillan "online dating" was likely implied as a passive comparasion. Let's stick to the topic!
My favorite one is "would you break a rule, EVER?!" Which the answer is, "well is the rule written in blood, or in black ink. I'll break the latter, the former is sacred. Where's my options... ah yes, [yes/no]. How granular."
@@jackr2287 A stupid rule, sure I'd break it. Sadly the only person who would employ you after that answer is Elon Musk.
I had a job I loved and worked at for 9 years. Got laid off. Here's the breakdown, I have the same amount of money available to me not working as I did working after bills. Government has been lowering taxes on the rich and turning to the working class to make up the loss. The rich want us poor and focused on that being poor. If we're focused on fixing that issue, we're not focused on the bullshit they pull. I'm not on drugs, not on alcohol, not on disability or any government programs. I'm just sick of the system and don't waste my time taking part in it.
Comrade! Come join the revolution! Join us commies
Take all the money from government you can, get your taxes back and stuff.
So who's paying your bills or are you living with a WORKING parent?
@@BruceLee-xn3nn Grandfather. I'm on call 24/7 for any assistance required, handle his bills, meds, meals, etc... He's 88yo. Unfortunately, I can't get paid for the position as there are restrictions on who qualifies for those programs. (namely, he makes slightly more than allowed for the program.) It's complicated and frustrating and involves government saying, 'nuh-uh. we don't wanna.'
But what do u do for money?
Many men are going their own way and thus not dating women let alone getting married and having kids. With this in mind they have way more options. They can work just long enough to build a passive income portfolio and/or have their own business. By 2030 it is estimated 45% of women over 35 will be single without children. It is not really that hard for a single guy, if he has got anything about him, to piece together what he needs without taking a full-time job. A small one-person lawn business, pressure washing, car detailing. It goes on and on. Many guys are packing their bags and living the country altogether. Not only because of western women, the cost of living and quality of life. A guy who has $2,000 a month in passive income and emergency fund of $50,000 can live much better life outside the US.
Who wants to spend a HUGE percentage of their day (week, month, life) at a place they don't really want to be, doing stuff they don't really want to do, being bossed around by someone they don't like. And at the end of all of that, basically ALL of your money goes on rent and bills! That's basically what happens nowadays. I work (and I hate it) but i've got more and more friends who have essentially 'opted out' and decided to live on 'benefits' instead (i'm in the UK. So they have their rent paid by the government and they receive a small amount of money per week). The quality of life is a little worse in some respects (SLIGHTLY less free money) BUT you actually have your life to yourself! No longer a slave. All of your time is your own. Wake up late. Nobody bossing you around. Spend time doing your hobbies (if they don't cost much). I can certainly see the appeal!! lol.
It's absolutely brilliant that near everyone in the comments understands why this is happening, yet these two guys in the video seem unable to grasp it. I'm not a neet anymore, but I was one for a good 6+ years. I completely understand what's going on. I remember in 2014 I was hearing about there being a huge shortage of labor in construction, so I started looking at postings for construction jobs. I couldn't find a single job posting for a basic entry level position that didn't require 2+ years experience. If it was true that they were desperate for workers, it certainly didn't show. Almost all so-called "entry level" jobs are similar to this. They say they're entry level, but then require experience, and in many cases even a degree. So when I hear that there's a labor shortage, I just don't believe it. When Eberstadt says all these jobs require is that you show up on time and not stoned, he doesn't know what he's talking about. If employers are truly in need of workers, they need to drop their BS requirements and become willing to train new people. The only jobs that are truly entry level are complete and utter garbage. I'm talking fast food jobs and the like. The problem with these jobs isn't just the dirt wages you get paid where it's seriously questionable if it's even worth it or not, it's also the schedules. You have no idea what your schedule will be. You can't make plans to do anything a week out because you have no idea what your hours will be. This situation makes these jobs a poverty trap that is hard to get out of. You can't get a second job to try to get ahead because the unpredictable hours could conflict. Good luck if you land an interview at a better job, because you won't be able to reliably schedule it. These jobs pay you so little that you become desperate and dependent on them, and so doing anything that could cause you to miss a day of work, like going to an interview, becomes incredibly risky because you could be fired and on the street. There's also the unspoken problem of transportation. For the longest time up until only very recently, I did not have a car, and that was a huge contribution to why I was a neet. If you don't have a car, and there isn't reliable public transportation where you are, you are at an incredible disadvantage. You are limited to where you can walk to, as well as the geography. If there's a job 10 miles away, forget it. If there's a job one mile away but it's on the other side of a big stretch of Interstate, forget it because you can't walk across the Interstate to get to work. If you do manage to find a job, unless it's incredible close to you, you'll need to pack a change of clothes when you go to work because you'll be sweating your butt off by the time you finish walking there. So yeah, I completely understand throwing in the towel and refusing to participate in society. Why would you work your ass off at a job paying you less than $2000 a month pre-tax with little hope of advancing in life when you could just stay home and play video games? Sure, your future will be screwed if you play video games all day, but your future will be screwed anyway if you work that kind of job, so why not try to have fun in the present? Even if you're lucky enough to get a decent paying job, the high cost of living these days means you'll have to live incredibly frugal anyways if you want to avoid going into debt. So what's the point? These authors, podcasters, and "experts" just don't get it. George Carlin is even more right now than when he was alive, "It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."
Transportation is something so many people over-look. Cars are fucking awful. Building entire infrastructures around needing them is the stupidest move we've ever done. You're literally stranded unless you have one, and they cost so much to maintain. Can't even bike in many of these cities with car infrastructure because of the dangers, but also the size. They're easily 3-6x the size of a similar sized European city. Cities that have trams and busses, and rail transit that get people anywhere in the city in 20-30 mins. I'm ready to just move out to the country. Living in the city is just a money pit because everyone's been forcefed propaganda on cars and the American dream. At least it's quiet out there. And cheap. If you can work to purchase a chunk of land, you can live on less than the poverty level just fine so long as you're willing to put in work. Raising animals, a garden, cutting wood for heat, learning life skills like frugality, repairing, recycling. Only buying essentials. And even though those lives aren't easy. They're easier, and less stressful than a city life is for most.
Yes!
It's quite the same in France, they don't stop saying there tons of jobs to fullfil in construction wich is mega dangerous work where you need real skills, tourism, hostels restaurant who not paying that well when it's sector that bring billions to France, even teachers start missing cause teen have become like gang members and even if you have like 5 month holydays it ot interest people with degreee no more XD. In anyway french salaries are just a pity and most of youngs will not be motivated for those hard jobs that doesn't pay enough. I guess those people doesn't realize work to just have the right to have roof, a little space and a car to just to feed yourself and go to owrk will not make dream anymore. in France housing is mega expensives too. Jobs where you just need to present you in time it's literally a joke for someone older that never experienced the actual world. There's also people who just live from their rents and don't need to work and those joining the criminality. There's so many peoples who doesn't work, just living from social aids and making their own stuff or gardening, selling things on internet, some might actually dvelop better business at a point than take a shitty work. IN many countries having social aids and not having a car give you an income not that far from a worker. This problem also explain another video problem about "dating doom" when you men doesn't have job, they more insecure and not really in mndset to found family. Had on this druges problems. The western system has created a monster. Most our satistic are completely fakes. If world was normal you should receive jobs proposals even if you don't search after all why it's to you to search, you could have nearby business asking peoples nearby to just come work nearby that would be simple... and also this famous demand/offer for fixinprice seems to not be valib to fix salaries, if it was working harder or most dangerous jobs should be paid far more. In europe at least we can quite well live without car.
@@truckywuckyuwu I have seen documentary about USA towns, as a french it was quite shocking realizing that many roads doesn't even have sidewalk and you can't go to mall nearby on foot. XD
So you're young and unemployed. You're going to be seriously FKD when you're old and unemployed
When you devalue the money, you devalue the desire to work. It’s simply not worth it anymore.
Your right on the money Dixon you can’t hardly own anything anymore because wages are not even close to where they should be!!!
@@jimclark9790 The supply is too great, and nobody wants to work when women get the house, the car, the kids, and whatever you might have scrapped up in the meantime. This is what happens when the sugar rush is over from the pack-of-candies economy.
It's certainly worth it if you're not a lazy fuck and have actual goals and purpose in life. That's why, even though money is being devalued, there are still millions of successful men and women.
Well said; more from you sir !
A guy in the US sitting on a couch with zero ambition still lives a better life than most of the rest of the world. 🙄
Amazingly, I have a friend who fits all 5 criteria. High school dropout, unmarried, black, born here and doesn’t live in a home with a child. We’re both in our 50’s and he’s never worked a day in his life.
I’ve been out of work 4 months. I apply to 10-20 jobs per day, have a masters degree and 25 yrs work experience. Ageism is a real problem, as is the push for diversity hires despite qualifications. It’s recklessly irresponsible to make these claims that the poor corporations can’t find qualified workers. I’m not talking about minimum wage high turn over jobs.
It's not "diversity hires" that are getting these jobs and ageism is real. If you read the threads, all the people that can't find a job start with the same line - "I've been sending out 25 applications a day and I can't find a job". Well of course you can't find a job because you're sending out BS applications all day. You find jobs thru PEOPLE. You need to get out network, reconnect with former employees and get in front of the decision maker and sell yourself. If you're doing anything else, you're not really looking for a job - you're doing nonproductive busy work that makes you believe you're actually looking for a job. Many of these guys don't have jobs or 21st-century job search skills
I remember the day I walked out and retired at 55. Nobody believed me. I had a great deal of responsibility. I left the company phone on my desk. Never looked back. Corporate greed made the decision for me.
tell me more
💯!
I did precisely the same thing at 48 years old! Worked at a failing biotech start up in L.A. One day, had a meeting with the boss, and he had the balls to say that I need to get more done (I was middle management). I was utterly offended and disgusted. Fortunetaly, I had been at some very successful start ups before this one, so I looked up all of my investments and savings, called my wife to tell he what I was about to do. I went to my boss, handed him my resignation, laptop, phone, keys and badge, and never worked again! That was June 21. Moved to Florida, and living the dream!
@@unkorichie2029 I resigned/unofficially retired when my employer started requiring the covid vax . Best decision of my life.
I've retired at 28. Just need to eke my savings out for the next 50 years
Let me say this. A lot of companies are simply unpleasant to work for these days. At every single job I’ve been to people say “it was so good back in the day, we were treated well, we got shown appreciation, we had events, sports teams, double pay on sundays, etc…”. Now most of these companies suck. They don’t give a shit about the employees anymore. I don’t want to say this is 100% of the reason, but it’s a big chunk of it. People don’t want to work for a company that treats them like dirt.
I'm 27 all I've ever heard is how awesome everything used to be.
@@jimmyjones2185 The 80's were the best time in the USA.
And here I thought, children and women had it bad working in factories and coal mines for pennies. Refugees having to start over from nothing, after fleeing war torn countries. Only for men of this generation, to complain about corporations not being "nice" to them. Or feeling like they are owed success, for being undisciplined and not putting in the work required to be successful. The men of this generation are absolutely sad and pathetic. You are starting out with basic opportunities that are denied to so many around the world, yet you sit around bathing in self-pity and complaining..
It's like that in the uk as well. I recently walked out of a job cleaning buses because there's no respect for the employees you're there to make money for the directors of the company for minimum wage and you're expected to work backbreakingly hard for your money. I'm 62 and pissed off about the decline in job quality that has occurred over the last 20 to 30yrs in the UK. I am no longer engaged with work. I'd rather work for free for a good cause but I've got to pay rent etc. Unless you have savings or some valuable assets that can be cashed in you are a slave to the system of work It's been designed that way to make the way out as punishing as possible.
In my opinion when there's a problem at the bottom its because of a problem at the top, government has probably changed alot since the "good old days."
A lot of these jobs are not even paying enough for you to pay rent and get gas to get there, so even the qualification of showing up is not comtemplated by the salary. People are living on their cars with full time jobs. How does that fiscally make sense for a person? For a family? If no one is applying it's because the pay is not worth it, that's not difficult to see. Countries with more social subsidies and free healthcare are not having this issue. If getting a job leaves a worker with LESS money by the end of the month it doesn't make sense to work. Wages didn't follow productivity or inflation for a long time now and these are the consequences of that. This is a situation with men, sure, but plenty of women that want to be working are also not because childcare is more than the wages offered!!! So who do you expect to work?? Kids, by the looks of it. Well, we'll see how that goes soon enough.
Throughout the Midwest industrial employers are gladly hiring ex cons who committed violent crimes for low 20’s an hour and third shift gas station work pays 18ish an hour right now. NEET’s are already living rent free with family and friends, so why aren’t they choosing to make 38-44 grand a year and not be a burden to the people putting a roof over their heads and feeding them and start a 401k and rack up social security credits?
I love how they jumped over low wages and lack of training. It's evident that neither of these two has filled out a job application in a long time. You can work 100 plus hours a week in this country and still be homeless.
The job market is the same as the dating market. Unreasonable demand while offering very little in return. When job requirements for entry level jobs are longer than the resume of its application, you know something is wrong.
I recently applied for minimum wage, fast food jobs, I keep submitting applications online and in person, but i have never received a call back. The hiring managers never show up when you're there. And then when they are, they make it like you're an inconvenience to them just by showing up. They keep telling me that when people will quit they'll call me up. In fact, i applied for a job in January and got an email asking for an interview in...April. I am willing to work, and i just want a job at mcdonalds but i can't get a job. Shame on this economy and these higher ups.
I'm 73 y/o and I have never been out of work for more than a couple of weeks in fifty years. I can't imagine what I would have done for FOOD if I didn't work.
I'm 38 and have had nothing but serious problems just getting hired for jobs, both right now and when I was first entering the workforce years ago. I was unemployed for almost 4 years in my early 20's because no one would hire me. I wound up working in logging for 16 years at this point, but now I'm burned out on the long commutes and seasonal work, which translates into low pay. Have tried getting new jobs and it's the same old shit as it was in my early 20's. It's unrealistically hard getting even a basic job. At least that's been my experience in my area.
Me too, at 71 I have recruiteers hounding me all the time BECAUSE OF MY GREAT EXPERIENCE
When I see men who are well-trained and experienced in their fields, and with track records of success, being laid off across many industries and fields and enduring months of unemployment and stressful job searches, I know there's an agenda at play.
Its nothing new. Men have always been useful objects that get thrown away for society. Women too. We don't value people just products.
Oy vey!!
Well a lot of companies are LEGALLY REQUIRED, to put SHAREHOLDERS above EVERYTHING! Now in the real world, this bullshit, wouldn't fly.. But thanks to Some Government group of friends, this is what were dealing with. And I'd say this is the "Agenda" you mention.
It's capitalism. You don't have to look very hard. When Jeff Bezos is worth $160 billion it's not because he works millions of times harder than other people. He's an economic warlord.
WELL, TIMES HAVE CHANGED, FIRST COVID AND NOW THE WAR, THIS HAS DISRUPTED THE NORMAL LIFE OF EVERYONE, THE LAST 50 YEARS HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD, NOW MOST PAMPERED AMERICANS CANT HANDLE A LITTLE DISTRESS, IF YOU HAVE TO MOVE TO ANOTHER TOWN OR CITY, FOR A JOB, THEN DO IT, I DID IT 20 TIMES IN MY LIFE TIME, THATS THE WAY IT IS, LIFE IS NOT EASY, AMERICANS HAVE BEEN PAMPERED LONG ENOUGH, THEY NEED TO GET OFF THEIR ASS AND PHONE OR VIDEO GAMES AND GET A JOB,
I'm 59 college educated, and worked my whole life but in my 30's everything changed, my healthcare suddenly had to come out of my check monthly $820, and vacations were reduced to only 2 weeks a year, and we're not accumulative, in addition you couldn't take the 2 weeks at once. Raises became few and far between. Wages stagnated for 25 years. I left the hourly traditional employment work force working for someone else in 2006 and jumped into the gig work with several different sources of income. I make my own hours and actually work more, but much more gratifying, and happier. There are so many variables that are not mention in this discussion, especially wages in comparison to growth and wealth of the US, it just doesn't add up, it's appalling. We have all been hoodwinked.
what field are you in?
WHY did you not WALK!!!???? I am same age. Same background. If my employer cut my wages and dumped my Healthcare. GOODBYE !!!!The only good thing about having a McJOB. Is it is disposable.
Here in Europe you can work teaching English but you will never get rich. You need to do private lessons. That is , you have to be self-employed. Here is the catch. You need to declare the lessons . Otherwise , parents instead of employers steal from you. It is like a Catch-22 situation.Everyone wants to cheat everyone else...
@@dragorn3212 yes what field/company were you in that changed your benefits? I'm working part time right now and I don't even get ONE full week off.
@@billnotice9957 maybe cause she needs money to survive, gotta at least work until you get a better job.
Also, social scientists have been predicting for at least seventy years that many men would choose to drop out of society but I can’t recall the titles on this topic offhand. Many prominent best sellers have been published on this theme. For one thing, obtaining employment is more complicated than it once was.
Yep. It was pointed out decades ago as a negative consequence of pushing almost all women into the labor market. Men can no longer provide, women don’t need them, so men have much less incentive (or opportunity) for productive work.
One of the first things the Nazis did in power was offer marriage loans to young couples to start families and households and then deducted a quarter of the principal for every child they had. They coupled this policy with tax incentives for women to leave the workforce, which freed up jobs for young men who could then attract wives because they were gainfully employed. The policy worked, of course. One wonders where they got the idea for it.
Interestingly, if more guys were getting some, more would end up with kids, and then fewer would simply avoid the rat race altogether. So the dating marketplace and evolving dating views has most certainly helped seal the deal on many men just "not bothering" in the first place because they haven't already found themselves "stuck" (and needing to take the dead-end jobs and overpriced mortgages and tuition, etc)
Exactly. men with no families or even dating prospects can get by on very little and dont need to work too much
Men have been systematically demotivated. It’s not the lousy pay so much as the fact that working gets them nothing they want. College educated men are in this group, too.
Well, when sex is easy to get and when men figured out that getting educated doesn't get you girls anymore, many don't bother. Looks are king nowadays women earn their own money. Women's mate preferences shifted so men acted accordingly. It's almost like keeping women out of the workplace was good for society and not just "the patriarchy" being mean.
When people work full time, they are left with little time after their hard days at work. I never understood how the world does that
@@Warbr33d Sex is only easy to get for 5-10% of the male population. The rest get very little if any. 63% of all men 18-29 are single. More young men are virgins than ever before.
@@Warbr33d most men are not getting sex either these days.
@@Warbr33d yeah but what about lesbians?! If you keep women out of the workplace that’s ok for straights but how will lesbians earn a living? We should NOT have lesbian only UBI. I refuse to let the government create any new policies
I think many men are partially giving up on working because they don't have the incentive of marriage/partnership anymore. Lots of single males have just given up on that with what dating looks like now and without that incentive it feels meaningless to so many. I don't know what can be done about that at this point.
Marriages are also down
We could address the issues causing so many men to be single. But thst requires admitting the truth about how women are behaving. Can't do that now can we
They would have to change all the gynocentric family laws and that is not going to happen anytime soon so men are walking away in droves.
The great reset requires less people involved thus the depopulation scheme implemented by the elites of the planet because they are moving to AI and robotics
Capitalism needs to collapse before we can move on from this train wreck
2 reasons pop to mind straight away. So many jobs are (service) jobs which are designed for women and hire women about 2 to 1. Those old school jobs that require little training or education are HARD. Now back in the day you could find one of those hard jobs and buy a home and put you kids through college. Now you can have one of these hard jobs and still qualify for food stamps. Who's signing up for that? I'm sure there are 1,000 other reasons, but those two jump out.
It is simply amazing to see these two guys discussing the serious problems young men are having without even mentioning the real culprits: feminism and hypergamy. To those men who are DISINTERESTED in our society, someone's gotta explain why they should choose to work as a slave with the prospect of not even having a girlfriend (plus being called "toxic" and all that...). Why should they like our modern society? For what reason they should be motivated to work hard with a low pay? As we all know, this is a society who is totally failing young men, and is totally and uniquely concentrated on what benefits women. Even the (very recent) interest in men's problems is only because men's problems start affecting women.
It used to be that even an average guy with an average job could live relatively comfortably. At least be able to pay the bills, save a bit, take a holiday once a year. Now not only do you have to do a job with no real purpose you’re still broke. Wages haven’t kept up with inflation for over 30 years. We’re seeing the repercussions of that now.
@Long John Thilver That depends on where you live. A one bedroom apartment where I live is currently about $2000/month and up. $2000/month is for the lowest rent neighborhoods. Many people don't earn enough to live alone in this place.
@Long John Thilver Goleta, a few miles from Santa Barbara.
This is something that always confused me, but I think a big part of it is because of all the quality of life things we spend our money on too (as well as straight up inflation). My great grandfather raised a family with 5 kids working as a Carpenter on a single income. They also didn't have cars with loads of safety features, cellphones, laptops, streaming subscriptions. A lot of this stuff that has improved our quality of life has in a way ruined our lives. It's the moral of Fight Club that our materialism has enslaved us to our material things that we pretty much can't live without unless you're a monk.
Mass immigration
@@lawrencenewman9941 thats one of a few reasons. Top earners vs bottom earners gap has increased massively within companies, high levels of immigration pushing wages down, loss of manufacturing jobs, high inflation and the general poor mental health of people (mostly men) in general. They’re all factors. Mass immigration on its own probably wouldn’t have that much impact.