The Main Reason Men Are Losing Interest In Women
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Chris and Nicholas Eberstadt discuss why so many men have seemingly ‘checked out’ of society. Why aren’t men pursuing women as much as they used to, according to Nicholas Eberstadt? How worried is Nicholas Eberstadt about men continuing to retreat further from society? What is the solution to reintegrating men back into the working force according to Nicholas Eberstadt?
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We are plotting the purge. You don't get to run around and threaten to stab people with a metal spike. And say they are domestic terrorists if they don't use drugs. It collapses basic tenets of nonviolence on which a basic free market economy is built. That's gone. We are waiting for the right conditions. And 90 percent of people will be removed.
Intresting point of view. Perhaps you would be intrested to explore the defination of true man from major religion in world point of view to find solution on “why man checking out from society”. Not sure about other religion, but Islam has comprehensive description & discussion on the qualities of true man. Would suggest you to explore the topic with Dr. Omar Suleiman or Ustd Nouman Ali Khan.
Great question. As a guy who lives in a society that doesn't hate men nor its majority population, I can understand why my male counterparts in Europe and the US would want to check themselves out while their countries keep pandering to whamenz and racial or sexual minorities all the time. Their response is sad but logical, since they aren't gonna make a revolution to regain what was taken from them anyway. The best option is to let society burn itself and take as less responsibility as you can (other than supporting yourself I suppose).
They have the chip in the head mate. People have had this tech for a long time now. Eyes and ears are hackable, along with the ability of devices to read non-verbalized speech (inner speech/thought). The way you can tell if the eyes are hacked, is that any "hacked visions" are in two dimensions like how you view normal screens, and its overlaid over your 3D normal vision. These devices know your emotional state based on body frequency - eg when you are anxious, relaxed, asleep, etc. They can all be integrated with other smart tech, like phones, TV's, computers, etc. Maybe you might like "thought" induced product/service specific targeted advertising :) The more they roll out that tech, the checked-out people will increase, it eventually demoralises to the point of hopelessness.
Why are men checking out of this feminist society? Because we have two options. Men can renounced their toxic masculinity and choose to be trans women and still be hated by women. Or they can remain men and have no role or value in this feminist society, they can stay home and not fix society. Women don't need men. They can fix society and make it worth mens time again or we can all die playing video games.
People genuinely don't care about men checking out until it starts affecting women.
Oh like, 'how dare you go your own way, it's causing me problems'
its by design. elites have robots coming and want majority to just jump in the river.
And even then, they'll *_STILL_* blame men *_BECAUSE_* it's effecting women. And round and round the merry-go-round society goes. They will learn nothing until it's far too late to do anything about it.
Exactly, oh well!
Supersonic Reee...
As a white man working overtime and being looked by modern women and society as worthless, it made me realize I just need to live for myself going forward. I found peace, freedom and I stopped being manipulated and taken advantage of.
I am a young black man can you believe that the white man and the black man are the two most hated groups in America? It is either a white guys fault or a black guys fault this is why black men are leaning more right and leaving the Democratic Party if you think you have it bad you should see in the black American community what they think of black men😂😂 and let’s not mention interracial marriage. I am the son of west African Liberian immigrants so I am an outsider in the black American community.
good for you; and me too: here in Vancouver, BC, Kanuckistan, most of the ladies - primarily 2nd+ generation 1's - are absolute bitches: solipsistic; rude; cunning; cold; narcissistic; and steely! RGB-Y3 out!!!
What has being white got to do with it?
Amen
@@sole__doubt Guys like Chris will have access to all they would want even if every single person in this group got laid tonight. As someone who has hung out around HV men lots of times, I don't think you understand how confidently they can just take a walk out somewhere and ask around and get yeses. Even if there is somehow less around, this isn't going to dent that chance or mindset for him. Hell, it doesn't me, and I am way less attractive and poor and still have my own 15+ body count in the last couple years and a GF. But then again, I went and aimed for things to get where I am I know none of these people would agree to finding things like swinging and such parties and social events beneath them.
Just this afternoon, I was working out in the yard and there was a young man cleaning up the rental property next door. Within a half hour he told me that his wife just a few months after the wedding asked for an open marriage. He tried to justify it by saying he was not all that bothered by it because he did his own thing as far as hobbies and he worked a lot. I asked if he was also seeing other women and he said no. He then said …well what am I supposed to do? I let the question slide for a few minutes but eventually came back around to it. I said listen….i don’t know you but if there is one thing I do know…if she asked for this it’s means she was already cheating on you or is likely going to be in the future. Again I don’t know you or her and I don’t want to give you unsolicited advice but I can tell that you are not happy with the situation. He felt trapped and didn’t know what to do because he was already married to her. He said they have a child together and I recommended he get a paternity test. I could see the heartache in his face. And the anger. Long story short…I told him that he didn’t deserve to be treated this way and he deserved to be treated with some respect. I said if I had to guess is that she was using him as a side piece and for financial stability. You could see it on his face that he believed it to be true as well but couldn’t accept it. This all happened within a couple hours of just meeting this guy while we were both cleaning up our yards. I believed he was just dying on the inside and just needed to talk to another man to get it off his chest. He actually started to get choked up when I asked him if he wanted to keep in touch. We are going fishing in a couple weeks. Men…we need to support each other more.
I'm a woman & I think this is a TRAGIC story. So glad you reached out to that young man and that he could accept the connection. I hope for a friendship to continue to happen--and for him to find a way to change his situation. HE DESERVES BETTER.
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I love this! People supporting each other!
Well done mate 💪🏼
Youre a good man
I divorced 16+ years ago. I have four adult children that I love unconditionally. I am often alone, but rarely lonely. The peace and calm that you have when you aren't having to cope with a narcissistic emotional disrespectful demanding judgmental person is amazing. I have some friends, and I have my dogs. That will be enough from here on out.
And may you live happily to the end of your days!
Agree 100% re rediscovering peace and calm although the anguish and injustice of having to leave my two kids was brutal.
I am so sorry you had to live through that and never experienced a healthy relationship. I have a good friend that went through the same thing for years. We all stayed silent because it "wasn't our business" how he wanted to live. He is divorced now and so much happier.
cope kings
Good on you brother.
"Being alone for a while is dangerous. It's addicting. Once you see how peaceful it is, you don't want to deal with people anymore." -Tom Hardy
This. I can barely handle talking to recruiters anymore, nevermind bosses and colleagues
Truer words never spoken - I LOVE it now that I am divorced and out travelling the world. If I don't want to see people - I don't. If I do, I do. My choice, my responsibility. Zero nags! Priceless!
@BrianBaileyedtech And this is how I feel too! I don't have to feel like it's a "big ask " to expect friendship from my partner. I have sex with the men I want as long as they act the way I like and when they don't I move on. I move on when it's no longer fun or it becomes too much work. But I see men on these threads are really angry that women are living my kind of lifestyle, now. They are angry because we just walk away from difficult non cooperate partners. But my life is so much better for me this way.
@@christinefury1040 I am glad for you.
@@christinefury1040i see nothing but happy men in these threads, rarely come across angry men in these threads 🤨. Men are happier not dealing with the social norm cater to a woman lifestyle and im truly happy seeing them finally wake up.
When plumbers, construction workers, electricians, make less than an OnlyFans girl, I give up on society.
The average only fans girl doesn’t make much at all.
@@Yeetus223 good, but any onlyfans girl thats allowed to be a millionaire from doing nothing for society means we have failed at getting our priorities straight
@@zephyrus3554 supply and demand 50% of men are pathetic simps
But the average onlyfans girl makes very little money. Society is very unfair yes but so what? Why let it get you down?
firefighters/civil servants, nurses, doctors, teachers and surgeons as well
The concept that wanting a family is a muscle that is developed through observation is fascinating. Having grown up in a toxic family I was left with 0 interest to give it a try.
Which is ironic, since people like you are the best qualified to break those generational issues and raise kids right.
I grew up toxic. One thing I wanted was a family. Got it. Super stoked.
A sad outcome. 4 kids 2 divorces, and fuck knows how many 100s of thousands cost, first came penniless, second with thousands of debt. Yes my fault, I do have 4 great up children. However the UK divorce laws are heavily weighted in favour of the wife, happily my second divorce was under French law enabling me to retain assets I acquired prior to marriage. I still cost over half of the marital home. Will not make the same mistake again.
Men are NOT used to seeing they can raise kids. Most plots end at wedding not the 10 years of raising lil annoying kids which is sorta a lot of work so not fun to see. Actual men interracting with toddlers is forbidden on TV. In home life the women rush to cuddle the kids so men don't get it there.. So yeah us men see kids as foreign, it's like asking a person do they want a free little airplane, we just imagine we will crash it we have no experience. In olden days the men could leave childrearing to women but now suddenly about 1 year old marriage we are told we will be left with baby for half day and maybe days, and we think that's scary ... Plus men have less familial instinct... Plus men dislike the new style of debating with wife and children every issue. . . Part modernity came around 1850, full in 1980, so us humans really maybe have no good way to cope ...
I have a highly unorthodox speculation the male/female sexual relationship is inherently exploitative and controlling on the part of the male. So in freeing women from exploitation, and subjugation, feminism has killed effectively killed sex. That's only a speculation on my part. I have no idea of whether or not that's true.
The only woman with whom I successfully lived together long term in my 20's, with no disagreements, no financial stress and a lot of mutual love and respect, was... my mother.
This is sad no offense. It's not meant to be this way
I can't even say this. I can't quite relate to my parents, who really won't, or can't, properly understand or empathize with or teach me, as in me specifically, who I am, not some simplified, abstract child that doesn't need any consideration or individualized parenting. I'm not sure how my parents would have done with 'normal' kids either, neither of my two brothers are married or financially independent from each other, although the middle brother I think can just afford his townhouse on his salary. Pardon the rant, it sometimes slips out. The short of it is, I wish I could even have a good relationship with just ONE of my Parents. A girlfriend is just a pipe dream to me, when people more social than me, that make more money or have more charm, are also struggling. And there ain't a lot of good fish in the sea, so to speech.
@@Tiyev It sounds you are really in a dark place. Willing to reach out.
@@namnack I don't know what to say. I kind of
@@namnack Maybe I have a mental block. I don't quite know what I'm feeling, faced with your offer. Probably fear? Or confusion. Either way, I guess I could try and keep a conversation going.
I’m 62, divorced for 10 years now. I played by the rules, worked hard, stayed faithful, didn’t drink or do drugs, came straight home to my family each night. Yet my ex stopped cooking and cleaning as a SAHM, started gaining considerable weight, developed mental issues, and when she decided to break up the family, she was legally entitled to half of everything I had built over 52 years, along with a good chunk of my retirement. What do you think my advice to my 21 year old son is regarding marriage?
Was God first in your lives, at the the center of your relationship?
@@user-rl4bs8ly1i bluepilled comment of the day.
marriage can be great, but the problem is men often approach it for the wrong reasons - love instead of business. the contract is in place because she's raising YOUR kids and forgoing her career and a prenup is in place to protect her so she's not destitute if you trade her in for younger model (but also, she's not incentivized to leave - she should feel pain, not a reward). That's where I think you messed up - it's a business to have kids. not we love each other (hopefully that's part of it).
What advice are you going to give your son regarding relationships with women?
I'm late 30s. My wife NEVER STARTED cooking and cleaning, lol. Ok, I'm exaggerating. After years of training (raising?) her she now cooks one meal every week for our toddler. I make 10-15 times as much money as the national average, don't drink or do drugs, I am always with my family, and it all doesn't matter. The joke I was trying to crack is that things have deteoriated for generations younger than yours. And I keep in touch with the generation now entering their 20s, and it is EVEN WORSE there. If you asked your 20ish girlfriend to cook a meal while you are at work she would call the police on you or slit your neck. I hope things turn out well for you, and you know, not just because I think you are where I will be 5 years from now on, haha. Stay strong, my friend.
I have given up at 40, people think I’m gay but I’m not. I refuse to settle on a woman I can never love
My problem is that I used to love women dearly, but now I understand them...and I'm saddened by that.
I'll be 40 in 3 months. Same conclusion.
TPE
@@Last_one_before_I_go Your sentiment resonates.
@@Last_one_before_I_gosame. I’m 27 and want to get myself into a relationship or date again. Now that I know how women can be, I get unmotivated to date. I know I’ll just sharing her with somebody else, plus, the situation/relationship won’t last anyways. I was in a relationship for 2 years. I think it’s safe to say I was the “nice guy bf” that girls use once they are fed up with the shitty men. I know exactly….how women can move. I’ve seen divorces amongst my own family as well. I’m goodn
Biologically I'll never lose interest in women. The thought of love and intimacy will always be one of the most amazing things i have experienced. But there is social and civil norms in todays world that encourages bad and self serving behaviour that makes it too dangerous for me to take that leap of faith now. I just don't belong in the time we are living in
I'm with the speaker, 60's very happily married for 40+ years, 5 children, 9 grandchildren. I watch these videos and my heart breaks for the current society. My marriage and parenthood and more recently, being a grandparent have been the most important and fulfilling aspects of my life along with my faith. Todays focus on money and things is in part the root of our problems. To be clear we married young, I had 4 kids by 27, my wife stayed at home, we still managed to buy a house on a low single wage. We'd been married years before we bought any new furniture, camped for holidays, drove bangers, ate simply, never missed a payment on anything. We need to get back to a focus on relationships and not things in my view.
Hoping every single day for this, 31 F who cant comprehent what's going on with this world! Have career /healthy/saved some /not a drama qeen/no addictions/play sports /want family and kids and cant find a reliable partner...
A "low single wage" is barely enough for a one-bedroom apartment these days. Let alone with a wife and kids to support. Crazy. Glad you got to experience that and hope we can (somehow) get there again, but I suspect we won't...
Genuine question... Why wasn't having kids/finding a lifelong partner a priority for you 10 years ago? @@katerinatrofimova-gd1ll
@@teamcoalhapcharcoala long single wage doesn’t work because Reaganomics gutted the government and the middle class in just a Boomers lifespan.
@@katerinatrofimova-gd1ll Define “reliable”. And you mean to tell me since you were 18 you haven’t found anyone “reliable”? Or did you not even notice the “reliable” man because he didn’t meet you standards??
"Empathy gap" is the understatement of the century. Social media has promoted selfishness off the charts
and women are at the forefront of the new era of narcissism. their habits 100% enabled by society.
My mom, dad, sister and my deceased wife none of them gave or give a crap about me as a person and what I think or feel. I was and am completely expendable only something to be used. That’s motivating isn’t it……
@@dr.vonslifeinvesting6485 u should cut them off. i did.
Social media is a narcissist's paradise tbh. Its full of these ppl.
@@Brakka86 women took to social media like a fish to water. no surprise most american/western women are complete narcissists.
“I genuinely hate living in a world where everything a man does is terrible. And no matter what a woman does, she’s amazing” - Patrice O’Neal
western society needs change
Women are far from amazing, I find then whiney, self centered, sometimes obnoxious and really not worth the effort.
So not true. Only in the lamestream media does that happen. On the streets, in the real world, there are real people who value the male mind, body and soul.
Rip Patrice.
Liberal world order for ya. Now i understand why taliban fought so hard to keep this degeneracy from destroying their culture.
I’m 39. 3 kids recently divorced. She started getting into SM hard about 2 yrs before our divorce. That turned into her wanting to party all the time and that turned into fighting. She eventually cheated with her supervisor from work at a “work party” and left us for him. She continued to immediately (days after she moved out) have him spend time with my children. We hadn’t even had papers filed yet. She would continue to use him to hurt me with our children. I’ve been cheated on and hurt in other ways by every single woman I’ve ever been in a relationship with. I’m done. I’ll die single. I won’t put myself through it all again.
Sorry you’ve been put thru that, mate:(
@@KettleBell-ml8hx social media. Mainly TikTok and then instagram
@@KettleBell-ml8hxsocial media
Fair enough. You've had your children. No need for such treatment anymore. I hope you find your happiness fellow internet user.
So sorry for you.
Honestly I think we are all just burnt out. It’s expensive to simply exist and take care of yourself, let alone be available for another. If you commute and work 40hrs a week, those other two days simply aren’t enough time to reboot. Instead we’re running errands, cleaning, doing laundry, and attempting a social/creative life/downtime/processing of events or emotions. Is it really any wonder people prefer their, frankly, measly downtime alone?
The economy has finally caught up to me as well. I need to work 46 hours a week at a previously good paying job just to keep afloat. 23% inflation these passed few years cut everything I worked for for the last 30 years in half. And, I believe it was all by design.
@@NarwahlGamingI’m in the same boat. I finally obtained a good paying job that I like and almost a year later my apartment is sold because of the inflated real estate market. I now have to pay $1,000.00 more a month just to live somewhere decent and safe.
Why can't you function in that frame and single Boomers and Xers did? We didn't have money though you think We did. I worked 70-75 hours a week in my 20s and didn't whine.
I agree 100% with this
Thank you, perfect 😊
Why Are So Many Men Checking Out Of Society? The answer is VERY simple. They have FINALLY had enough.
And it was about time.
Guys are giving up because the vast majority of wømen are sharing the top 20 percent of men (maybe even less, like the top 10%). This is likely only going to get worse, not better…. because wømen really don’t care what most men are going through.
I hope some fight club style revolution happens and everything is reduced to nothing for us to build from again
Yassss
It’s really interesting to see whats happening. I think massively overvalued housing combined with the biased mechanisms of dating apps, decline of social skills and increase in alternative entertainment is leading men to just give up on wanting to purse relationships and it’s now causing a massive change in global social trends. We’re seeing a rapid decline in the number of people wanting to have children and men now deciding to totally step away from the dating/relationship scene, we’re potentially seeing the beginning of the collapse of a civilisation unlike anything we’ve ever seen before in history. I think most people get the feeling we’re at the end of an era and things are really starting to fall apart at this point, men giving up on relationships is a major escalation in the collapse of a society as we know it, will be an interesting period of history.
This society has become hostile to men but we are still expected to support it financially.
Yes, like at concerts or at restaurants, violence is being used for people to control others or get things. I'll pass.
That is sad and frightening
This is why my goal has been leaning HEAVILY towards passive income (mainly investing). I want to get out of the ratrace as soon as possible. It also knocks me down a couple tax brackets to boot!
If a man shows you the generosity to love you and financially support you, appreciation and respect are due. My experience in marriage is that there are always things to work through as a couple, but open communication and respect go a long way. It’s not easy being a man at the moment. Glad you’re here, though, Mark. All the best.
Because of patriarchy
“There are worse things than being alone, but usually by the time you realize it, it’s too late. And there’s nothing worse than too late” - bukowski
I’m 21, and pursuing girls in my teenage years with social media in the background was fcking brutal man. You’re competing with like hundreds of guys constantly fill one day you wake up and you’re like wtf am I doing? At the moment I just wanna make sure that the next person I let into my life is the right person. I know there’s no way to know that but in the meantime, maybe just grow as a person.
You are 100% right & I admire your attitude of learning who & how you are, what you what out of life & building a life that agrees with you before involving anyone else in it. As an elder, I wish I would have had presence of mind to get educated & build a suitable life for myself before involving anyone else in it & before creating another life. Congratulations on having your priorities right. Well done so far & when the time is right to expand your life, you will know it. I certainly wish you the best life has to offer bc you are young enough to enjoy the journey and reap the benefits from patience & good choices. ~
Take it from a gay man, I just totally reject social media. Even gay guys were fucked up by online cruising and they could get away with it. I have seen it from the beginning back in 1997, to the early 2000's when it was nice, but then grindr hit and it destroyed all the gay boys. I remember when I heard about women getting on the internet just a few years ago, maybe 8 years or so I knew it was not going to work. I always make this joke with transexual when they argue they have female gender, "what kind of women just wanders off into the bushes to have anonymous sex with a bunch of men? Women don't do that because any women who did that would have died a long time ago, gay men do that, they're just a gay man in drag. Men don't have a choice about male sex drive. And neither do women, there is no way women can go online. No way. Listen to me, You just have to have real good social skills in real life. Read eye contact, believe in yourself and directly approach real women who have real interest with you in real life. And then if you meet a women and you find out she was online, you break up with her. You just eliminate any women online from your life and only talk to real women in real life.
Always be set in your "ways". When my friends say I'm too set in my ways, I tell them I've always been set in my ways and as I aged, I made fewer exceptions.
Don’t fuck with women that have a relationship with their phone or any social media other than like YT. That will instantly eliminate all the trash. GL👍🏻✌🏻
Lol 😂😂
It all comes down to risk/reward. The vast majority of Men are simply not rewarded enough for the effort they put in. In many instances, they are punished for it.
And you get told some BS like 'you get out of life, what you put in' sure...
This.
@@garnhamr oldest crap ever
exactly, I'll outline all of it from a 22 year old guys POV, we're expected to do so much and not only is it not rewarded but our effort is taken for granted and then the fruits of our effort are largely robbed from us either through taxes or family court so we're left either worn out with nothing to show for it in regards to work and any attempt we make to connect with women is punished and if by some slim chance we actually do get a girlfriend their mentalities and attitudes are very toxic and selfish and often they'll cheat on you or accuse you of something to get value from you using the legal system and the woman is just believed by default regardless of all but the most damning evidence to refute it keeping all that in mind it's no wonder young men like myself are just quitting because the only way to win a rigged game is to not play
Severely taken for granted. The lights are on, the shelves are stocked, the water is flowing, the food is growing, the production lines are moving. Men are the primary reason this thing we call civilization even works.
Men are giving up on women. We aren’t giving up on ourselves. I’m more focused on work and fitness than ever. No distractions, especially from women.
Facts brother! Work, health and wisdom will heal all.
I’ve done the same thing. Although as a woman, since I gave up on dating and decided to focus on career and health I’m shit on for being too independent, lol. Wasn’t my plan A, that’s for dang sure. But it’s peaceful, right? So there’s that.
Same
Work is another can of worms. I'm in the top 5% earners in my country and can't afford a home. Taxes are ridiculous. Work is a waste of time. I got lucky with my woman though.
@@Shvabicu Here in S.F., I'm in the top 2% in the country, and can't afford a home for a family (leaking rat traps no included). Seems like if you stop dreaming of a nice home, you hardly need to work, as many other needs can be met rather economically, especially if you can cook.
I am Russian, lived in NYC for more than a decade , tried meeting women in NYC, it was almost impossible, had thousands of rejections. I m now in Colombia. Women are much easier to talk to , very feminine. But still, I believe the best mindset for us men is to focus on business and improving our lives instead of trying to find dates. When you start feeling accomplished and start radiate this energy of completeness, the correct women will be drawn to you . I’m not trying to get into a relationship , focusing most of my energy on business . But at least there’s no problem with finding great sex in Colombia, if one really has an urge for it. I think the global society as a whole took a wrong turn and is moving towards selfish , materialistic living , which I don’t think leads to happiness of most members of society. Peace ❤
Very wise, sir. And impressive.
Of course globalism has created a selfish society. With Tribe and nation you have common bonds of blood and culture. You will give up some of your selfish interests for the good of the Tribe. Globalism intentionally tries to break the ties of kinship, the tribe, and the nation and build a global citizen concerned with the world. Of course, this is impossible. Why would I sacrifice for some dude in the Sudan who I would probably have nothing in common with, at best, or loath his belief system at worse.
Be careful in Columbia, they are drugging and robbing foreigners down there.
That’s an interesting take on it. My question is do the women in Columbia have to worry so much about being raped and killed? That is a real problem in America. Women have to worry about it so now they are hostile towards men not only that but men are abusive. There is so much aggression with the men here you have to worry about them beating you. is it like that in Columbia? Just curious.
@@jennifervaughn1541 the statistics on rape were dropping every year and bottomed out by 2015 and then suddenly shot up. What do think accounts for the explosion in sexual assault? Unfettered illegal immigration. Where do most of the immigrants come from? I'll leave the rest to you. Regardless, your contention is total baloney. A man has a much higher chance of being accused of a crime within a relationship that is utterly false than you have in being an actual victim of one - the reason being that people are eager today to believe it. Hence, the entire topic we are discussing which is why men are avoiding relationships altogether. It isn't just being raked through courts, but through the justice system with false allegations. A man can't even say "hi" at work without being dragged into HR and accused of "harassment".
UK man here, 54, last comms I had with a chick was when I was aged 50 by text when she said "leave me alone you loser". This actually followed a long line of miserable "leave me alone" type rejections over the last 30 years... but thank you ladies , I am tickled pick about it actually because I finally got my shit together, worked my ass off, made a load of money, multiple homes, etc....and its all mine.....no woman will come near it. So Ladies, thank you, all of you, going right back to when I was 18 when you all delighted in rejecting me, you have made me what I am through your constant rejections. I am now very well off, happily single, come and go as I please and my life is truly great, all thanks to your rejections because I was nobody yo you. Enjoy your cats while I take my extended family to Barbados, but hey, you knew best!
Well done sir, from a fellow Brit. I worked my ass off for 45 years but never made it like you. Glad I`m going to die soon!
I've interacted with dozens of women and never been talked to like that. What are you doing to get these reactions from them?
I have kids with 2 women. It is a nightmare. This society has destroyed women’s minds. I’ve always put the children first. Their mothers have always put themselves first. I wouldn’t have believed the terrible things they were capable of if I hadn’t seen it and been affected by it myself.
Snap!
That was the most shocking part for me as well. I didn't think Mom's could put their own "happiness" before their own kids well being. It blew my mind.
Why didn't you file for full custody of your children? You have grounds if mother is dangerous/abusive to children, has an addiction, untreated mental illness, etc. You are just as bad as these terrible mothers if you left them in custody of these women because you already see the danger to your own child.
If they were crazy it's possible, but they are borderline or narcissistic so the courts have no expertise in this area and women's groups are dead set against granting recognition of this area. @@jeromehenry4484
@jeromehenry4484 its extremely difficult to get legal custody away from a mother. You have to have a lot of proof that she is putting them in physical danger. Its not an even playing field.
*“Women’s groups follow a double standard: When women lag behind men, that is an injustice that must be aggressively targeted. But when men are lagging behind women, that is a triumph of equity to be celebrated.”* ― Helen Smith, Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - and Why It Matters
Yep. More about special privileges and revenge than it is about equality. Same with the LGBT movement these days
People are asking what the definition of a woman is, if you asked them the same question about a man the same people would say, sexist, misogynist, lazy, murderers, child molesters, etc. etc. It's the same with the 'beauty' industry. Fat women, stunning and brave. Fat men, lazy slobs to be ridiculed.
That author is wrong.
@@manifest2203 Care to elaborate?
Society has been following that double standard forever.
The reason men are losing interest in women is simple. It's because things don't make sense anymore. In my youth, I wasn't very attractive and I knew it. I was skinny, shy, insecure and had no charisma or confidence. Unsurprisingly, I didn't do well with women. But I decided to devote years improving myself. Eventually, I was a new man. I had a physique like Thor, I was outgoing, charismatic and confident. Yet women still had no interest in me. This made no sense to me whatsoever. But then I'd see crazy hot girls getting with very average or below average guys, and that was the moment that I gave up on society. The motivator in life to work hard and improve yourself is the presumed rewards you'll get at the end. But when you put in the work, get the results, yet get no rewards, only to see guys who have put in none of the work getting all the rewards, what reason is there to try anymore?
"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
Maybe that’s what we need a full fledged reset. Because the current crap isn’t working
How's not playing the game of life, winning? Seriously, everything we do from the time we wake up every day is taking a risk. It's what makes life interesting. It also sucks a lot but we wake up the next morning and start all over taking that risk again. Life would be even worse than suck'in if we didn't play and take risks.
@KnottyCeltic the juice isn't worth the squeeze to many men today. Marriage is slavery. Employment is slavery. Taxation without representation is slavery.
Nice movie reference! War Games
Exactly that
When society has apparently decided that you are to blame for every single bad thing in the world, it is perfectly natural to flip society the bird and walk away.
Yeah, Cultural Marxism has to be destroyed.
How convenient that you guys don't blame the sexual offenders, rapists and other male criminals that are responsible. You blame "society".....
@@Michaeleism Actually, men tend to be much tougher on criminals than do women. Look to see who comprises the bleeding hearts that find excuses for criminals. Look to see who whines about murderers getting the Death Penalty.
@Michaeleism oh yeah because you know men are so evil and women are just so lovely and delightful these days....
@@Michaeleism "sexual offenders, rapists and other male criminals" I blame the single mothers who raised them
I have to say, its a blessing that I met my wife of 13 years at high school. I'm 36 now and I haven't had to experience any of this though sometimes, the feeling of being worthless has darkened my mind...a reflection on the society I am forced to live in. Best I can do is make my son strong, honest, compassionate, smart and brave enough to navigate his generations future adventures and struggles.
Met a young man in his 20s he thought he was gonna become a CEO but he quickly learn that he didn't have skills to charm and couldn't enter the right networks. Now at 36 he understands he won't make it. The competition amongst men is tough. Everybody is competing for the best mates the best houses, the best jobs . There's only x amount to go around, it's not infinite. So not every man out there will become leader of the pack. Masculinity is build and tough to keep.
The CEO Club is the realm of sociopaths.
You don't need to be a leader or CEO to live a good life. I earn enough to afford everything I need working part time from home as a software engineer, and spend most of my time hanging out with friends or enjoying my hobbies. I don't envy the guys earning $10 million a year working 80 hours a week one bit, that lifestyle sounds awful.
Well there's only one CEO job to go around! By definition we can't all be top dog. Try being open to more realistic futures
I checked out of society and it’s the best decision I’ve made. I have no debt, been promoted twice, heathy and fit. Why? Because I have no drama and I can focus 100% towards myself. Men need to realize that checking out doesn’t necessarily mean being a cynical apathetic outcast. You can live your best life now without going along with the program. No need to participate in society that demonizes men. I learned my lesson after my divorce they you are just a utility.
Neitzsche, the greatest philosopher who ever lived, wrote about, and embodied in his own life, the importance of embracing isolation from society if you want to achieve your highest potential. The brainwashing of the culture of the masses is a terrible distraction.
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You hit the nail on the head with "... you are just a utility." So true - never heard this so compactly explained ;-)
I'm not sure you qualify as someone who's checked out of society if you've had two recent promotions. Checked out of dating maybe, but you're still clearly contributing to society.
I am happily married with 2 kids that are now out of high school. I am starting to work on myself now that my obligations are mostly finished. When I was younger I 100% took care of myself but I’ve slipped a little because my family came first. Now I have no excuses if I want to be healthy again.
Society used to be interesting, exciting, open, likable. But now, it is vicious, ugly, unlovable, close-minded, and whole-heartedly degenerate in vices. What we are seeing is what you'd expect given the 'inputs'.
Men have problems being productive because men lack accountability. They whine about women all the time and blame women and think that is accountability. Society has coddled men beyond measure. The only time most men can be productive is when another man is oppressing them. If not they get easily inebriated with something or the other. That is why most addictions affect men much more than women- p*orn, video games, sports, social media, alcholism and substance abuse.
yup, the west is collapsing
Read the book the tipping point by by Malcolm Gladwell. It's a good book and the Bud Light Boycott is a good example of once you push things too far there are surprises for the elite. I've been past this point for sometime, but the masses seem to be getting there and the tipping point may finally be upon us. Congratulations western women you have driven men to just walk away.
“Vicious, ugly and unlovable. “ I’m not seeing it like that .. our society has not turned that negative in a few decades
Its an inevitable consequence of rising economic inequality. As times become tougher, people become more selfish to survive and society turns dog-east-dog. There is lots of data that shows that more economically unequal societies are more violent and politically volatile because everyone is fighting everyone all the time just to get by.
I can only speak from my own perspective but lack of interest in women is a symptom of far deeper societal issues. I was a bright eyed, bushy tailed 16 year boy old when I was unceremoniously dumped out onto the street. But it was ok because I was promised that if I worked hard I too could put a roof over my head, find a nice woman who loved me and go on to live a long, fulfilling life. But that didn't happen. What did happen is I remained homeless for 8 years, drifting from one semi permanent labour job to another eventually developing long term spinal injuries as a result of the constant physical strain of hard labour and sleeping on concrete floors. Nobody helped me. In fact, doors were slammed shut in my face everywhere I went. Want a scholarship? Not female enough. Want a job in a nice comfortable office? Not educated enough. Want social housing? Not "vulnerable" enough (coded language for being male.) Want to pay for your own education? Not rich enough, go back to square one and f*ck yourself. And the best part of all this? If I ever had the cast iron balls to complain about my situation I was "being pathetic" and "feeling sorry for myself." Have I lost interest in women? Of course I've lost interest in women. I've lost interest in ever participating in a society that gleefully kicked me down and demanded I stay there. I was taken advantage of and I'm not bloody surprised the lads coming up behind me are seeing how my generation was treated and are getting out before they themselves get fucked over. Honestly, I wish them the best of luck. You boys play your video games and smoke your weed. You do whatever makes you happy.
Society is for the lucky. Being fortunate enough to get a leg up is everything. You got to wait till your chance comes then grab it and run.
Well, look on the horizon, war is coming, just remember to let those who have the most to gain and protect, do that. Protect their %#!+ Don't volunteer, don't participate. And let them go for themselves. You will see how valuable you are then
I think it boils down to this. It's too much work when the prize is to be a woman's 2nd (or 3rd or 4th choice). There are enough alternatives and distractions available to men, to stave off feelings of loneliness, to make the extra effort involved in romancing a woman just not worth it. As my boss likes to say, "The juice isn't worth the squeeze". I'm in my 50s now and married with children but if 21 year old me stepped into a time machine in the early 90s and was teleported to 2024 I wouldn't even bother. My heart breaks for young people trying to navigate the relationship scene these days. It seems awful.
I didn't really 'check out' of society voluntarily. It's more that society rejected me from the start. I was bullied throughout my childhood. I tried to date as an adult, but I was rejected. I'm nerdy, not good-looking, and have always been shy. Society made it clear from the start that I wasn't welcome. Society is made for attractive and extroverted people that like normie thing's like football and love island etc. I simply don't fit...
You're in the top tier of humanity, you are your own man and not part of the legion of followers. You're too good for this trash society.
Nah, there are plenty of non-normie spaces. Sadly, it is almost exclusively made up by men, as women are pretty much only interested in the mainstream tabloid, low IQ bullshit. Still, no matter what your interests are, there are plenty of discords, reddits, facebook groups, forums, and whatnot. For example, I'm part of a Warcraft III World Editor forum. We also have a Discord. Trust me, it doesn't get much more fringe than that, haha.
As much as dating sucks now, this isn't absolutely true. Attractive introverts and ugly extroverts still can do okay. Be honest to yourself in what you want and work on yourself to get it. It is the only thing you can control. Maybe just date uglier girls? Western beauty is mainly an illusion anyway. 😂
It is not about being attractive. It is about being extroverted and sometimes with dark triad traits which helps in getting short if not long term relationship, or just hook up. Extroverted guy will allways get more attention than introverted or shy guy.
@303machine Been extroverted certainly helps, but looks matter a lot too, it's both really. It's also much easier to be a confident extrovert if you were good looking growing up as you are less likely to be bullied and will have more positive reinforcement. As for the dark triad thing, I think it's a bit of a red herring. I don't think acting dark triad is going to help a sub 5 guy or even a normie get a date, more likely to get you put in prison, lol. Like, if you are a tall gym fit chad who is a bit of a psyco, women will still date you and people will respect you out of fear. But if someone is a nerdy sub 5 and you try to act like that... it just won't come of the same way, you will get your ass handed to you pretty quickly lol.
As a single man, maintaining a close relationship with my parents have become ever so important. Your parents get old and need help time to time and it's very rewarding. No one loves you more unconditionally than your decent parents.
1 hunnit percent my guy!
Agreed. I'm an only child and grandchild. Lost my dad to cancer last year and all I have left is my mom, her parents, and my grandma on my dad's side. I'll never have a family of my own so I take care of my mom and her parents. It's not the life I thought I'd be living but nothing else ever worked out for me. At least my mom loves me unconditionally. It's a rather sad life when I think about it but I've never done well with women despite being a bit above average in looks and in the top .1% in terms of fitness/body.
the only loyalty i have is to my family i.e parents, they are the only ones who have been there for me.
i prefer doing the family thing i like having kids around makes me happy plus they help me fix stuff lol
My dad wants grandkids, have to keep my distance.
It is far better to be alone than to wish you were.
Intelligent young men realise that if they apply a cost/benefit analysis to the financial, physical and emotional effort in relationships with women - as a business case it is just not viable on any level. The cost far, far outweighs the benefits to the man. My opinion.
I'm turning 40 this year. Been single since last year and not really interested in having children or getting back into the dating markets. Most of my friends are either divorced or stuck in miserable marriages. I can relate
You forgot to mention, or you don't know - most of your married guy friends have wives that cheat on them. Most wives have sex with co-workers, their personal trainer(s), their bosses, and even go to gangbang orgies and come home and look their husband in the eye and tell him 'You haven't been there for me!' and throw tantrums, put on crying acts, all so they can keep exploiting and using their husband.
Enjoy your freedom and money.
Don't do it, I'm also 42 and single for life. Work, play, and gather money; difficult times are ahead of us men.
@@ss0498 I am. Love the freedom. I'm not wealthy but not struggling either.
Well what if it was possible to spend time with new friends, those who are happily married. I have never seen somebody who says he is friend with millionnaires and he/she is still broke after 3 to 5 years. Most of the people we have who are in toxic relationships shape our unhelpful beliefs and narratives. This invisible trauma can take years to heal.
The main motivation for men to do what we've been doing for thousands of years was to support a family. Nowadays that's no longer necessary so we're just checking out? Plus society has been telling us for decades that the future is female and men are not needed so we're just stepping back and letting the women handle it from now on. They're strong and independent, they got it.
piss on em 😂
@@robertwilber1909 they do that themselves already
It's gotten to the point that tranwomen are replacing them! 😂 So much for toxic masculinity 😂
@@eb3langer do what - the world they depend on is overhelmingly kepts going by......Men
@@indrajeet sarcasm…
It is just matter of not taking a chance on a cruel and unfair financial settlement from a divorce after putting all your efforts and emotions into a relationship and then being told “I am not happy” and everything is blown up. It makes no sense to take risk of having your life destroyed based on the whim of another person.
I am 50 year old woman and I noticed this trend among the younger and older population...I often thought about it and my personal opinion is that lack of libido and interest in sex is caused by pollution, obesity, and chronic disease...when you look around it's not hard to notice how overweight people are, how sickly and unattractive they have become, and the mental illness oozing out of peoples blank faces, or their faces buried in their phones....I see this everywhere and it is not how I remember people 40 years ago...I think humans are weakened by all the toxic stuff around us and it influences sex drive too.
Or the government is putting something in food (Roundup)to lower men's libido to decrease the population. One good thing about Lower libido is that it removes the blinders from men's eyes on how unappealing females are.
If you live in The USA most our food is literally poison because the food industry has control of the FDA ad in the ridiculous amount of advertising. The old picture of the 70’s where no one is fat. The Reagan Revolution really screwed up our country and turned our government against us instead of being there to keep greedy corporations from poisoning and killing us. Example: “Why is palm oil used so much? It's cheap and efficient making it the world's most widely used vegetable oil - and global consumption is rising. Palm oil is used in the production of foods such as cake, chocolate, biscuits, margarine and frying fats. It is also found in cosmetics, soap, shampoo, cleaning products and can be used as a biofuel.” It’s literally a full time job just trying to avoid poisons in our foods.
wtf are you talking about. women are spoiled crap
Note zero accountability on women behalf for simply not being decent mothers capable of taking care of kids who are worthy of love. This is not an even and equal thing. This is all womens fault. Men were doing their job, in fact they did their job too well when they gave women tampons, birth control, safety, safe child birth, anti-biotics, human rights, cars, freedom. We gave you too much. It's women fault for being sexual narcissist who failed to recognize their limits and understand the nature of reality which is women need men to take care of them but men don't need women, men only want women. Men can easily live without women, in fact life is better without women, but women without men, they're a stupid little infant running crying and screaming into the cold woods all by themselves only to die helpless and alone out their by themselves in the cold.
I’m in great health, I still jerk it regularly. Here’s the thing, it’s much easier to wipe a mess off my stomach, and get on with my day.
I'm part of the this 50%. I've checked out completely and it's more peaceful than ever.
Yeah, peace in one's own company is incomparable
Good.
The fact that so many channels have to put up thousands (hyperbole) of disclaimers before they talk about men's issues is pretty damning evidence for the empathy gap for men and men's issues. The fact that we have to outright say "me talking about men's issues does NOT mean women's issues are less serious or not important" should be enough proof that men's issues need to be talked about more.
I think it was Bettina Arndt who spoke to feminist who admitted boys were falling behind in education. When asked what she thought should be done about, the feminist replied, "Wait 2,000 years and address it then." I don't give a rat's ass about feminist issues-WE OWE THEM NOTHING. Feminism. Fighting the oppression of selfish, obnoxious upper class females in the First World since 1848.
We can thank feminists treating mens rights activists like they're dangerous misogynists for those attitudes.
And female empowerment requires severe curtailing
So true!
What you mean that it’s taboo to talk about mens issues? Whierd
Fuck all this psychobabble. The reason we are losing interest in women is we are tired of getting screwed over, primarily money-wise, but sometimes emotionally as well.
If you meet a loner, no matter what they tell you, it’s not because they enjoy solitude. It’s because they have tried to blend into the world before, and people continue to disappoint them. Jodi Picoult
Gave up women ten years ago. My mental health has improved, I'm financially stable and extremely happy. I love life without complications. My experience of relationships with women were always negative. I don't need a woman to complete my life and never experience loneliness.
💯 brother
1000% Same here. My finances are wonderful.
It has been 19 years for me - and it took two back surgeries to first slow me down and then to reflect on the cost/benefit of dating. Now that doesn't mean I don't miss the ladies, I do, but I am fully aware that things have gotten much worse since I quit dating. My retirement in Thailand has got me thinking about perhaps dating again, but I have no idea how I will deal with it after so long.
Awesome, rock on
The combination of corn syrup, technology, things that are not "politically correct" to discuss, and even more have created a situation. 95% of the women that take care of themselves physically are in a relationship. The remaining 5% are outnumbered by single men 20 to 1. If you count women who do not take care of themselves physically its closer to even. I'm not one of those guys that says "I'm working on myself" or "going to the gym" because that stuff is mega f****** cringe. I mountain bike to clear my arteries so I can see what happens in 50 years (and the adrenaline), I exceed the 666 rule, but it doesn't matter because for every 1 single woman that takes care of herself physically there are 20 single dudes. Women can look at a guy and go "good head and face, funny, his extra 60 pounds don't matter" and I guess they assume men will therefore also overlook her extra 60 pounds but that just isn't how reality works. I could probably find someone who is 60 pounds overweight and needs someone to pay for her kids to go to college but I have a lot of stupid hobbies that I actually enjoy and would continue to have whether I was in a relationship or not so I'll have to pass on the chance for an overweight wife and paying for her kids' college. And the statistics about the number of single men actively in/non-in the market is kind of funny because for most of us whether we are in the market or not doesn't change anything. I could be in the market or not and the only thing it would affect is an Excel spreadsheet on some psychologist's desk. So I'll be in the market on Tuesdays and Thursdays unless it's raining in Paraguay and not in the market other days and full moons and lunar eclipses but solar eclipses are still okay if it's February in Texas
As a man I just feel we've been beat down. We all get judged by women on the actions of like 10 maybe 15 percent of the male population. All the while women have higher and higher expectations. I don't date, I don't hookup. I work I have my hobbies I'm good.
Hell yeah man, one love.
Same, and now I couldn't care less about the judgments or the whining and crying. I just do the few things I love to do and tune out ALL the noise. It's so nice.
@@Concatenate I feel that!
It is really a lot more than 15% of the population of men and we don't know which of you it will be and it is like Russian Roulette for us.
Women always chase after those 10% of men. Those 10% of men treat women bad because they know women will let them.
"It's going to have to come from people themselves." What a simple yet powerful quote. This is something I've noticed. People just keep expecting the world the change for the better but they are the people who are capable of changing it. Improving myself and stopping viewing myself as a victim despite my flaws has had an unbelievable impact on my life just in the past few years. Personal change and impact is so, so powerful. I wish I had the ability to make others see that too.
I was always told love is the greatest thing you can ever have from a woman. You feel fulfilled, loved, appreciated and complete. But when that feeling is gone you feel nothing but pain, sadness, depression, despair and a pain you wish to never feel again. I’ve tried dating since I was 16 and now I’m 26 years old and all I have been through is the same cycle over and over. I’ve come to realize that there is only so much a man can take when it comes to dating woman. After my last relationship that just recently ended a few weeks ago, I finally decided to give up on dating completely. Because it’s not worth chasing after or fighting for something you always wanted, and all you ever do is get hurt and burned out emotionally/mentally.
I deleted social media off my phone for just a day and I already feel clarity. Feel more free. It's crazy what can happen when we delete that toxicity from our lives. Start there.
KZhead is social media.
You're on KZhead man. Lol
But how do you cope with all the insanity you learned from social media? How do you live say by day while knowing that the crazies that are online can exist in real life too?
@@MacSmithvox The irony seems to be lost.
On a planned 90 day kick myself. Off all social media with the exception of messenger for family reasons. You will absolutely not regret taking that time for yourself. Being off social media so far has brought me so much peace, and after 3ish weeks I'm debating whether or not to extend the break for 6 months. Social media fuels our bad tendencies.
I am 50 years old. The young guys I work with are totally checked out… Call of duty, porn and cannabis🙌🏻
And a minority of them off grid somewhere in the cabin in the woods. 😊
Sounds way better than listing to a boring wife talking nonsense
And getting boozed
@@davidbolha😍 collecting funds for that transition.
That's the life right there. 😂
It’s weird the comments more insightful and honest than the video
You think it's weird that a retired career guy who is a grandfather and a millionaire gigachad can't relate to men who are beneath them? I don't think it's weird at all.
@@Hooga89 yeah we all beneath them. Why am I listening if they have no idea. Whatever ya fanuc
I almost wonder if the creator of these videos intentionally asks obvious questions, then doesn't answer them so that people go bonkers in the comments, with drives up the algorithm. Still though, it's stuff that needs to be discussed.
As a man who has been married to the same woman for 53 years, I cannot relate to this trend. I’ve had crushes on girls since kindergarten (literally). I’m 75 now, and my libido is still raging. I can’t imagine not wanting a relationship with a woman.
He failed to mention the viagara he takes everyday but yeah, his libido is raging. Typical boomer.
You, my senior, are the strong man in the comments I have been looking for. 😂 Good for you. No excuses. Love hard always. ❤
Dinosaur Grampa. So out of touch with modern women.
My dad was the same way. He couldn't understand why I had nothing to do with women. Sad truth is that I grew up watching him. All the misery and crap he put up with. And when she was done making him thoroughly despondent, she turned her attention on his kids. She chased off his teenage sons. Kicked them out of the house before they could legally work. One nearly starved to death. The other got arrested and forced into the military. Dad's younger kids got ridiculed for having runny noses at his house because she was an awful housekeeper. She went out of her way to make us know that her 12 dogs (all inside the house), 3 cats, 2 birds and however many fish, had more value than we did. If we stepped in the mess they left on the rug, it was our fault. And God help us if we didn't remove our shoes at the front door. We got taunted for not having nice clothes because she spent all his money on her own kids. She'd go shopping and spend the account right down to zero (past zero actually). There was nothing left for child support, or even Dad's regular bills. Every moment in his house was constant torment from her incessant complaining, unrelenting drama. She torpedoed all his social opportunities by running her mouth like an ignorant fool. She worked off and on as Dad cajoled her, then found some way to turn an RSI into a worker's comp settlement. Sat down in front of the TV and never stirred from that spot again. She was fat, loud, abrasive and shockingly stupid. She totaled 5 cars. I'll never forget my last dinner, politely holding my tongue while she acted out like a child. I'd just bought my first car. I realized that I could leave any time I wanted. I didn't have to put up with her sh!t anymore, so I stood up from the table and walked out. It was without question the most freeing moment of my life. All the trauma of my youth, all the misery and abuse, was over. She was his problem alone now. Lesson learned: women are the most toxic thing in the world. They will destroy everything they touch. Why in God's name would I ever clutch that viper to my bosom again???
You’re a lucky man. Cherish what you have, it’s becoming quite rare these days.
Those numbers don’t sound too bad to me for young men. As you get older it’s much more difficult to find a good match if you’re not already in a long term relationship. People become individuals when living alone and this is fundamentally different than being a couple. Took me 12 years to feel comfortable being alone after my wife died and after multiple attempts at relationships. Takes a tremendous amount of energy and money to form a couple relationship/identity for a guy, so there’s more at risk. After suffering various setbacks or disappointments, you realize the investment often isn’t worth it, and if it happens enough times you’ll let go of the desire to be a couple. Key is to enjoy life as an individual, and single. Not easy for everyone including myself having experienced a great relationship.
I've been single for 14 years and have been celibate for 7. Women and sex are a thing of the past for me and I'm doing better now than ever before in my life.
Yes let your legacy die and be lonely because the red pill community convinced you that ALL women are evil….🤡
Dishonesty .. typical.. I can do that but u can't ... U are just lying about the real underlying truths
@@northernguy4262 I am young and good looking (28) just not rich rn etc but most people are evil demonic female animals including peen holders
@@northernguy4262 Do we? I'm mid 20's and already checked out.
@@northernguy4262 I'm a 36 yr old female retired and I'm CONSTANTLY asked why I don't have kids and why I'm not married. I was a travel and wildlife photographer for 10 years and my travels around the world taught me the magic of international real estate. Great investments lead to retiring at 36. I chased the money instead of men and don't regret. My biggest headaches and heartaches have been from men. I don't think its a man vs woman issue. Society just sucks as a whole. Many women, including myself, have also wasted a lot of time and money. I've dated guys who don't have what I have and its much easier to date someone in my tax bracket who won't take advantage but finding a man my age that can match what I have is rare so I just keep to myself. Like you, I have no interest in being someone's meal ticket. Again, it goes both ways.
The primary drive for men doing something best out of the ability is the reward of getting a women. We are in a world where that is no longer the case, and so the drive just fades away.
Biggest facts I’ve ever seen. You deserve way more likes. This is exactly the issue.
change "woman" for "partner" and you'll be much more inclusive about it. (that and a hell of a lot more people are bisexual, but living in a heterosexual catered world, so they've never really questioned it, or had to)
@@stratavosstuff7575 lmfao get outta here with your wokeism.
@@stratavosstuff7575 NPC robot detected, go use your intelligence-dead phrases you were half-wittingly told to say somewhere else.
@@stratavosstuff7575 even if we agree your point , nothing is tougher than a straight man trying to get a straight women.
There's many factors: 1. Economic: middle class has been gutted, with the wealth of boomers taking priority over future generations prosperity. Economic moral hazards of bailing everything out and continually lowering rates to maintain an increase in housing prices has priced the young out. 2. Housing: without a realistic path to home ownership for many without excessive debt, men, in particular, can't "provide" and so their worth to women is dimished. Women often earn more, study more and are prioritised more in workplaces now. They don't need men, and will naturally only go for men who earn more than them. 3. 40 years of divorce courts, with many children the product of broken families. If they're not, they've seen their friends families get destroyed, usually with the mother raping the father in court. You lose everything as a man and have minimal contact with your children. Why sign up to that even it's so common and life destroying? 4. Dating apps: they distort the reality of sexual value, with any woman above average getting a tonne of requests/attention, artificially inflating their self worth.. and in the process of sleeping with many men, degrading their actual worth and becoming bitter. If they don't become single mums in the process, they're just jaded and think men are scum. Any man with a shred of self respect doesn't want to get involved with that. 5. Everything is sexual harassment: if you're good looking, making advances as a man is welcome. The same advance by an unappealing man can be deemed sexual harassment etc. As beauty is in the eye of the beholder and often people meet through work etc, the risks are too high for men to even bother. 6. As both men and women sleep around a lot, the risk of STDs etc is massive. 7. Women want you to pay for everything, often using men just to get free food. They claim to want equality, but really they just want to milk the dating system to their advantage as much as possible. In my experience, good women are few and far between. Everyone has been fucked over and is jaded. Many don't take care of themselves and are obese.. they make no effort to remedy this but judge you for thinking they should remain healthy as a priority.
Don't forget about porn addiction.
Very good analysis, and on-point summary in my view. Don't forget: 8. Waittress culture/Tipping culture. She's come to expect "extra" as if that should be normal. 9. Lack of accountability/responsibility for use of birth control. If she does not use birth control, the responsibility for pregnancy is hers, not his. Consent to have sex is not consent to be financially responsible for child. These are explicitly different consents. Consent to have sex is not consent to parent. This has been very grossly abused and confused in the courts to men's absolute detriment. 10. Double standards in access to public assistance. Women get a red carpet, men get the door slammed in their face. 11. Chivalry culture/sexism. "Ladies first". Men hold the door for women, give up their seat for women, have stopped beating women in public. When was the last time you saw a loud, foul-mouthed women get knocked out? "Women and children first". Why? It's transparently sexist and not equal. 12. Jail sentences. Extremely biased against men. Women get lighter sentences. This is very wrong. 13. Registering for the draft. Women should be compelled to get shot, same as men. Equality baby. 14. Women are, and have always been parasites. They don't build houses, or roads, or bridges, they don't log trees, mine minerals, or farm. They don't slaughter animals, build pyramids, dam rivers, dig wells, fly aircraft, or pilot ships. They simply sit back and let the men do all the hard stuff, which they then enjoy the benefits of, having contributed nothing to the world that men have built. They are shameless parasites who coat-tail off of men's achievements. They are baby-sitters, which isn't even a minimum wage job. 15. Monogamy. Outdated institution. Variety is Good, Monopolies are Bad. Simple as that. End monogamy as a coercive, punitive, primitive practice. No one should be considered someone else's property. End marriage as well. It's already ending itself. It has outlived whatever use it might have served in the past. Those days are long past. It's only purpose today is to enrich conniving women with alimony, and to endow her with property that she never really earned or worked for. This is really a massive tax on men, and a tremendous infringement on men's liberty. It is a fundamental human right to have sex with whomever you want, provided that it is consensual. 16. End "Princess Culture" with extreme prejudice. If a movie or t.v. program or song, print media, advertising or electronic media makes reference to the word "Princess" it should receive an "X"-rating, like hardcore porn, only consumable as an adult. Children should be protected against exposure to it. We are a democracy. We have no "Princesses". The concept of "Princess" is toxic and poisons young minds in a deeply disturbing way, which has profoundly warped our society at its core. It is in the public interest to expunge "Princess Culture" from our public life, the sooner the better. There should be a class-action lawsuit by men against Disney, for inflicting profound psychological trauma, subliminal messaging, and the grievious abuse of the public domain. It is immoral to inculcate young girls with the deadly brain poison of "Princess Culture". You will never be a princess, ever. Period. If the word is spoken "on-air", it needs to be bleeped out, like profanity. It is a profanity. Enough is enough. It is an affront to the values of equality. 17. The age of consent should to be lowered. Ours (the U.S.) is too high. Google "Age of consent around the world". Italy, Germany, Austria, Portugal, Lithuania, Estonia, Iceland, China, Brasil, Chile, Peru, and many more modern industrialized countries set their age of consent at 14. Why? Duh. It's simple Biology. Who decided 18 was a good number? Why have we decided to make 20-25% of a woman's eggs illegal for her to fertilize? Aren't there any feminists upset about that? Since when should motherhood be a crime? 18. Sending a girl to college is the same as infecting her with an S.T.D. She'll come home with genital warts (HPV). 80% of them do. 50% of these HPV strains cause cancer. Check the stats. Does this massive wealth transfer, and it's unintentional side effects really benefit our civilization, or could that money be better spent? And has cunnilingus become as big a health risk as smoking, for mouth and throat cancers? The answer is Yes. Thank you, college. 19. The Feminist Agenda pervades school faculties, from Kindergarten to Universities. Schools today are factories that coerce anti-masculine social beliefs and produce an anti-male brainwashed population of Momma's boys. Boys graduate with a Man-Gina. America has systematically become de-masculinized, primarily through the school systems. This is turning out badly, with no end in sight. Thank you, college. 20. The explosion of Gay and Trans culture is a direct response to the feminization of masculinity in America. Thank you, college. 21. Feminism is not about equality. It is staunchly anti-male, and seeks to elevate women over men. This has nothing to do with equality. It is a war against men, conducted in every corner and at every level of our social fabric, which is becoming unravelled as a result.
They find 80% of men unattractive. So why would they play a game where the results are 0. Better to give up than wife up a single mother just because you want to fill that "void"
People always say: just join a club, make new friends etc...but I'd say that past the age of 21, most people don't really make any new 'real friends'.
@@cordfortina9073depends I have one best mate I met at the age of 21 who I enjoyed working with. The rest of the colleagues were arseholes I wouldn't give time of day for. Overall your colleagues aren't your mates keep them at bay iv seen too many arselickers and back stabbers running in the office.
@@cordfortina9073and maybe better this way. Friends can easily become enemies and who needs them at work?
Yeah I looked at these clubs everyone preaches about and its all senior activities , LGBT events and blm meetups, there's not many options for normal people
Most people never make real friends. Everyone is just using each other for entertainment and feeling good.
My 16 yr old son caught his mother with another man. We separated after 17 yrs. He said to me he will never forget what she did and never look at women the same. He’s 18 now and he is into hookup culture. Told me he’s not interested in ever getting married or having a family with any of these girls. I never discouraged it but I know why he sees it like this.
How is the relationship with his mother now?
This is the future so it’s only going to get worse…my boys are 12 and 5 and I don’t even want to think what it will be like for them
@@untouchableghost6757 You are a lucky one. As western economies crumble, this crap will go away, as feminist empowerment is based solely on mens resources being funneled to them by government. Without excess of wealth those parasites can do nothing, as they themselves do not generate any value. As free money is drying up, women will have to adapt. Men as well, but to a far lesser degree. Women will whine and cry, as per usual, but most men already seen this whole "empowerment" crap and how it works. So they will be far more resistant to womens whining and demands. So women will have to learn to be feminine and reasonable, or starve. As amount of money they can get from Uncle Sam will diminish greatly. So by the time your 12 year old will enter dating world things will be going up. By the time younger enter it, it is a good chance that relationship balance will more or less equalize. Parasitism cannot last, as it eventually kills the host. We are pretty much there. West is going down the drain and fast. It will get much harder for everyone, but for some it will be so much worse. Men generate value and they do not need much. Modern western women, on the other hand, are used to get a LOT for nothing.
@@53strat55 well he don’t wanna live with her he moved in with me.
@@tiagocrypto I say I have two I have an adopted son and a real son but I was baby trapped with him…I’m having vasectomy next year and I pray to god everyday that I don’t have daughters 🙏 I can’t go back in time so I have to do the best I can in this world now 🌎 I’m also glad I never married!!
I'm a woman and I am disappointed with what I see from culture. I'm also disappointed that people assume they think they know what I think about them through the use of hasty generalizations that they are fed through their own demons. I think men are valuable. I think women are too. Let's just leave it at that.
Yeah easy to say leave it at that when you’re not the one who’s been called names and treated like garbage.
@@late4suppa1 My husband committed suicide in front of me and I got raped in highschool by a group of foot ball players. I have been treated badly as well. No one gets through life without being treated like garbage at some point. Nope. It's not easy to say. It's something you practice.
@@late4suppa1 If you treat women like they are the enemy then you're just going to be extremely dissatisfied as you age. At the end of the day the world is just a shitty place and good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people. The more all of you distract yourselves with this bullshit then the less likely you're going to see the fucked up shit headed your way in the future. No one makes it out alive through life. Think about it like that. You're all just acting like a bunch of scared kids in Lord of the Flies... attacking anything that moves in the darkness.
Very interesting post. As a woman, the men I have met, do not want marriage. Many of the people I know (not all) do not want kids (because of their childhood, the lack of stability, the world issues) It is a very interesting time in which we live!
Men are just not putting up crap anymore. They have finally opened their eyes. There are great women out there, but relationships just don't last. Today men and women can be independent, they simply don't need each other
@@toddlavigne6441The reason mens relationships aren't working out It's because they are watching porn. And they are emotionally lazy. Porn does not require any emotional development or Self sacrifice.
What do you want Audrey?
you can easily say the same thing for women. They don't need each other but is that not a good thing? Instead rather than needing each other they should want each other.@@toddlavigne6441
I love how the old timer can't even contemplate young guys not being girl crazy. He's 100 percent right. Guys in his time would sign away their life and work any shyty job just to get peggy sue next door to marry them.
They would now, but this world is a completely different place from what it was in the 20th Century.
His generation wasn’t addicted to porn so they actually had the drive to pursue women.
@@CatharticCreation His generation used porn just as today's generations do. Porn became a multimillion dollar business in the 1980s with expansion of men's ('adults only') magazines everywhere, and the expansion of VHS porn tape sales. It only got bigger as an industry in the 90's and 00's with the DVD. 1990 was 33 years ago. The mid 80s, when every city had a small market with a cordoned-off men's / adult magazine section (with mags like Hustler, Chic, Penthouse, High Society, and the like -- all with plenty of pics of nude women) was almost 40 years ago. So porn use is not a new thing. The main difference between now and back then is that in the 80s and 90s people actually dated. Now you have dating apps, where you swipe right or swipe left, discarding people all purely based on looks and superficiality. Totally materialistic way of treating other people. Then maybe you "get acquainted further" via text, which is really no way to get to know anyone. Online dating sites are just as bad, being filled with people already in relationships (30% according to a 2010's study) and bots -- and probably some real people as well. I'm a guy and I've had bots try to friend me on social media nearly every week -- fake names, stolen pics pulled from some woman's social media account, fake locations, the whole thing. All fake, and powered by bots. It's hard to find a genuine partner in a world of fake. It can be done, I suppose, but it's not likely. And that isn't even taking the divorce statistics into account. If the drive to pursue women has changed, it has to do with many other factors than porn use. Porn use is the symptom, the result, of a broken dating system and broken marriage institution. Not the cause of it.
Same thing is happening in Europe, Japan, Korea etc.
@@CatharticCreation People liked porn just fine back in the day, it was just harder to come by because the Internet hadn't been popularized yet. I was in middle school in the early '90s and it was all Hustler magazine back then -- but boys will be boys, and Hustler used to move a lot of paper to feed material into the spank banks of horny teenagers, haha. It was the same for Boomers in the '60s.
I was married for a long time. My wife cheated on me and I left her when I was 40. It's been awful since then and I've given up. Although I look young for my age, work out, have all my hair, am successful in my employment and my activism, and have good social skills, it's never enough. I can get a girl's phone number almost at will, but it never goes anywhere. They either just never respond to any of my communications, or they make a date and flake out at the last minute or just don't show up. After putting up with that for a few years, I just gave up. I've focused on myself and not having my self esteem be based on what some woman thinks about me. I don't even look at women anymore. Also, not just women, but people in general are just so unapproachable these days with smart phones. Everyone has their face in their phone.
quit making so many dam excuses u can do it if u really want to
@@goldienakamoto7894 The point is that he doesn’t WANT to. Women these days have become such poor quality, narcissistic mates…that many men feel it is just not worth the effort to try to invest in them anymore. Seriously. Just look at the line of disrespectful treatment he’s been subjected to…
I understand shits gotten pretty bad out here but without them we cant have fucking kids man well guess we may be going to war soon so maybe now isnt the time for kids ahh well buy some bitcoin and gold cheers mates!!@@kellygreenii
I'm in the same boat, brotha
lmao you are literally admitting the feedback you’re getting is that you are not good at conversation or social skills because women don’t respond. They give you their phone number because A, women actually have empathy and don’t want to embarrass you in public by declining. B, many are afraid of a man being violent when rejected. You’re going on about having all your hair and going to the gym, when in reality you should be acquiring self awareness and going to a good psychotherapist.
I’m currently in a relationship with a women that I got into while I was drinking, no excuses there were red flags everywhere and I ignored them. It’s been the most unpleasant relationship I have had, and il be leaving soon and won’t be getting into another. I’m late 40s, feminism wrecked women’s minds.
One often overlooked factor is consequence of men being more interested in things and ideas (while women being more interested in people and feelings): Today us men have safe toys, such are video games, hobbies, sports, streaming services, etc.. The thing is, even if women did not changed (in relative terms), the seem like a poor investment/return proposition now. For example: it takes a lot less effort (for most men) to buy a video game console and enjoy immersive escapist experience than to wine and dine someone who is probably in it for it‘s own goals, which are often wildly non-compatible to goals of an average man.
Because no matter what you do, how hard you work, be honest and try to do the 'right thing' or how much you try to please people; you can't f**ing win.
Truth, there’s only one person that rightfully deserves to be pleased, instead of using him to serve others ungratefully. You’re looking at him in the mirror
If you're doing the "right thing" for others then you don't deserve to win. You do the "right thing" because that's what you believe in. That way you're internally motivated and satisfied with life
Instead if a young woman does a lousy 10 minute job for an older businessman, she still gets rewarded half a man's monthly salary.
Yeah
@@mattthx50 You don't even need to cheat. Just use the rules of the system against itself. Why I think learning about Economics and Finance is important
When the game is rigged, the winning move is not to play.
I am nearly the same age as the man being interviewed.. I remember seeing this getting started. Shows like the Murphy Brown sitcom where men were being portrayed as stupid and useless. It has only gotten worse over time. I am a 66 year old Christian man who has worked hard all his life and has gladly made many sacrifices for others. I do not care what society thinks what my role and contribution should be. If I am useless or not... go pound sand if you think that, that is my attitude, I know better... I follow what I know to be right and work to maintain my principles. I am lucky to have a wife that has her head screwed on correctly. I feel bad for the children. I told my dad once... it seems that everything that used to be right is now wrong... and what was wrong is now right... sorry folks I am not going to change my worldview and get behind that.
Men aren’t losing interest in women. We’re still very interested. We’re just not very invested anymore. That difference is important. Consider this analogy. I’m interested in France. I like to read about France and watch movies about France. But i’m not going to invest in a flight to France, especially when France has made it perfectly clear that i am not welcome there.
I’m 41 years old. I’ve never been married, never had children, and never will be married and I am too old to have children. I have been very successful in my career and after watching around a dozen male family members and friends lose everything after their wives decided to step out on them and the resulting divorce taking their pensions and financial future; I see ZERO reason to date or get married.
Welcome to the club
@@redpillrussel I’ve been in the club for 20 years. Ha!
You aren't too old at 41 years old.
Smart Man, keep up the good work!
You don't regret having no children?
i mean for me it was mostly because i was lied to most of my young life. i was told work hard, study, go to college, and you'll get a good job and find a wonderful feminine wife to marry and have kids with. welp, what actually happened was i ended up with loads of student loan debt, graduated college in 2010 and couldn't get hired because i had no experience and no woman would even look my way because i didnt make $100k/year at 23. at a certain point you come to realize the society you live in largely hates you, actively sabotages you, and lies to you in order to put you on a debt treadmill you'll never get off of. in short, when societies become predatory, people tend to drop out of that society and pursue something different. marriage, jobs and most of our social institutions simply exist to exploit or discard men. those that cant produce a profit are tossed in jail or condemned to live a life of poverty. i know a rigged game when i see it. sometimes the only way to win is not to play.
You not making money isn't the reason women didn't look your way. It might be a little piece but it's not the entire reason
Exactly. I followed that script mostly and was lied to, manipulated and exploited. On jobs, in school, in friendships, in my birth family etc. I came to realize that I was an exploitable-not really seen as a real person but a tool to be used and discarded. I was filled with rage and eventually vowed to use my brain power to get even, punish those who EFFED me and EFF them back. I stayed silent , got rid of socializing, went to gym and got tip top fit healthy and stacked as much money as I could. I finally came up with a "freedom plan and was able to retire at age 58. The pandemic was actually a further bonus because I was able to set firmer boundaries with birth family because they saw me be prosperous and always had their hands out to be given something. And yes the women are greedy for money and pocket watch cobstantly. They almost EFFED me and one sibling made a critical mistake that showed me the bit-- would take all I had and leave me by the side of the road. I CLOSED my wallet then and there. Of course she stopped speaking. Good riddance. At age 69 I'm 11 years out of the system, and a lone wolf. I have speaking acquaintanceships, travel a little, exercise, meditate and pray a lot. This world is a damn racket but I managed to create my own world within it by rejecting conventional conformity and it's onerous burdens-and then what. Sigma male here for sure.
I feel the same way. I’m a civil engineer which is the lowest paying engineers typically and that’s not good enough for women. A few of my friends make 85-90k, more than 20k more than me and they get all the attention from the average girls. It’s tough out here for sure.
LOL what kind of women were you dating that expected you to make that much? You must have been attracted to shallow women.
That's a lie. Currently in college and know people around the 20-25 age group that don't make no where near 100,000 but have girlfriends. Things in life don't get handed to you, women don't come because you make over 100,000 per year. Work on your personality and attributes
I had 30 friends while with my wife that I saw regularly. When we broke up I lost them all. I had 10 friends with my ex partner. When we broke up I lost them all. In both cases my ex wife and ex partner ended the relationship. My ex wife cheated. My ex partner left when I got ill. Loyalty in women and friends of couples is dead so I instead enjoy my time alone.
Lots of guys in their 20's, 30's and 40's are still living with one parent.
I find myself deeply disillusioned with the state of the world. While I am by no means a violent individual, I am profoundly disheartened by the overall state of humanity. As a child, I held great expectations for adulthood, even in the face of significant hardships and unfortunate events within the system. However, upon reaching adulthood, I came to the stark realization that the reality before me seemed lackluster and disingenuous. It has become increasingly apparent that many aspects of our perception are illusory, and a prevailing sense of isolation permeates our society. I have observed that many individuals are primarily motivated by self-interest, leading me to question the authenticity of human connections. It appears that our world is built upon a foundation of deceit and pretense, with luck playing a significant role in determining one's success or failure. It is disheartening to witness how an honest, hardworking individual with a compassionate heart can be marginalized and perceived as a mere failure for not adhering to the unspoken rules governing the game of life. Such a state of affairs leaves me profoundly disappointed and sorrowful.
I can greatly empathize with what you wrote. At 45 yo, I feel about like you describe. I just disagree with where you concluded your thoughts. Examine history for context. At no point has humanity had it easy, have had a utopia. There has always been struggle. Embrace life and humanity as the imperfect mess it is and has always been. Embrace the struggle. Focus on your purpose and move on, ignoring the rest, and treating it as just a distraction.
Indeed, well put
This sounds like a typical realization that most people encounter as they grow up. The greater and nobler your previous idea of the world was, the more disappointed you are apt to be, so your feelings are understandable. There are good people out there, but most people aren’t selfless altruists. You can become successful if you work hard, but your financial remuneration is not perfectly correlated with your level of effort. It is shaped, by your courage, strategic thinking, tenacity, and yes, by luck.
@@deanomec Very well stated. This is how I live my life, seeking out the positive and giving back positive, rather than negative vibes. Too much focus on the negative can lead to everything people are expressing in here, feelings of defeat, negative thoughts and just simply, giving up. That strategy will lead to isolation and depression for sure.
Prayers for tyr, old champion of justice. May his teachings never be forgotten
1) tattoos 2) single mom with someone else's children 3) hair colors not found in natural hair 4) T shirts or any other clothing with 'empowerment' messages or "I'm Great' messages. Avoid these & you at least have a chance.
Lol good tips :D
My goodness, how I loathe tattoos!
@@danwallach8826 Neck tattoos are a deal breaker even for felons on parole.
@@danwallach8826 I felt the same way about piercings, now I couldn't give a toss, it's just not my concern anymore!
Don't forget piercings in places they don't belong.
Way too many people date others they have NO soul connection with. They date them because they don't want to be alone, or because they have a few things in common with the person and the person is nice enough. None of those reasons are reasons to date ANYONE. People ARE way better off alone than settling for an okay other person. I'm still waiting (at age 57) to see truly happy long term relationships. I know a lot of miserable people who are just afraid to be on their own. Trust me, you're better off free and on your own. There are some practical things that suck, like not being able to split costs with someone else, but...that doesn't mean you should be in a blah relationship for that.
The reason I've lost patience with women is that I'm always expected to prove myself. I have to prove I'm competent, nice, have a lot to offer etc. And I have to prove I'm serious about her; specifically her. She will test me, demanding sacrifices and effort upfront. What does she have to prove in return? Nothing. She could be completely unremarkable, but her attention will still be expensive and conditional. Why should I sacrifice my time, my money and my health for her?
I'm single and retired at 54. I've been mgtow since 2008, and even avoid friends. Every time I develop a friendship, I regret it. Every time I hook up with a woman, she tries to latch onto me. I'm now just content to be an ascetic hermit.
Om mane padme hum
Enlightenment.
Friendships only last until they can't use you anymore.
Yup, same here. I've regretted every friendship and relationship I've had, outside of some family. People just suck. Even finding people that are remotely interesting is a chore.
To me friendships are in the moment and typically not too lasting considering that they tend to stem from being stuck with other people in mass activities such as schooling or the military or perhaps work. Neighbors especially seem to not even exist anymore so oblivious they are of everyone else on the block. People I used to hang out with seem incapable of even conversing on the phone for more than just a few minutes. As people age they seem to calcify and ultimately become ossified.@@saintsword23
We didn't quit society, Society quit us .... we had no options or choice
Every man around me, with rare exception, when I was growing up had a wife and probably children. Is that what programmed us to REPRODUCE and PAY TAXES? The expectations were clear; being single in adulthood seemed an alien existence. But being locked into a decades long relationship has it's perils. Now as a senior citizen, it turns out that living alone is actually pretty fabulous.
Ex filed for separation 3 times, I countered with divorce. Lost my house, 1/2 my retirement, most of the time with my 5 kids, my church, my church freinds. Been dating.. it’s horrible out there.. just kind of living for now.. not happy, but at least not tortured by my ex anymore.
it's simple. as a guy, you have to do so much to get a girl (dress well/work out/make good money/be funny/be interesting/not have any mental health issues/be social/be good at sex/not be clingy/be masculine/not be shallow and just attracted to looks/behave properly on a date/not be weird IN ANY WAY... oh, and don't forget be attractive, anyway, anything not less than perfect will do). also, I'm all for getting into a relationship with a friend but not every guy has a ton of friends who are girls. And after all this it's not even guaranteed you're gonna get a good girl. I see lots of women just not understanding how hard it is for many guys, they're just that ignorant. So why bother. Also a lot of women are like "you men just want sex" but then when they go on a few dates with a guy and he is not doing anything physical they're like "what's wrong with him", the hypocrisy?!
Women are way more interested in sex than men they are way creepier about it too
I really appreciated reading this. I am a 40 yr old woman looking to meet a compatible guy. I am someone who takes care of herself, has a good job, and doesn't expect anything from a guy that I wouldn't expect from myself (taking care of himself, have his own hobbies, honest, growth mindset, etc). I want you to know that there ARE many, many good women out there like me. Many of us feel just as much, if not more, pressure about dating: will we be seen as too old by guys in our own age bracket? Having to balance being single and financially independent while also not letting that come off as "masculine", wanting to date but also having to be extra cautious because of sexual assault etc. I am a feminist who loves and worries about the men in my society, and I am definitely not the only one. Feminism was originally a movement to help women free themselves from the oppressive place they'd been placed in society. I have read many of these comments and it seems that men are feeling oppressed and hopeless and are also wanting a social change. I acknowledge that many structures in marriage/ divorce have led to men getting the short end of the stick and, I can see why that would be unappealing. For a long time, women were given the short end of the stick in terms of safety, careers/ pay, education and domestic expectations. Up until recently in our society, many women had little to no say in who they married (this is still true all over the world)! What I really want to convey is this: Our men are clearly in pain and without a healthy way to express it except through commenting on videos like this. Just like there is toxic feminism (which is the loudest, but smallest group!) that grows in the shadows and in echo chambers, there is a lot of toxic masculinity being developed (like Andrew Tate etc). I think this is because men don't have the practice of expressing their pain and needs in a healthy way. Many of the comments I read were expressed in a very healthy way and WE NEED TO HEAR IT! Men, please talk to each other and share your pain. Men, please talk to a therapist. Men, please talk to US (without calling us all hoes or gold diggers, etc). We love you and we want you to be healthy. We want society to be healthy and for everyone to have their place TOGETHER, not hiding in hate like hermits. With love, one of many women who care about you
It’s hard for women too, men just use women for sex and get bored and leave. Not many men trying all that you wrote about. Most men just want free sex and do nothing for a woman.
@@lindsaymitchell1174 Good post. Sad to say the vast bulk of men out there are not worth knowing. If you have tried online dating you will know this already LOL.
@@lindsaymitchell1174I used to be like you. Give up . There is no hope . I no longer care for men but i’ll like your comment bc you did say some correct things about toxic masculinity
I'm the pinnacle of "young men," a 24yo male with a capable body and mind. I have nothing to fight for. Nationalism/patriotism is dead because we're just a melting pot of different races, religion, and ideology. Chivalry is dead because these hos ain't loyal and far from virgins. Working hard is dead because wages are stagnant and prices are inflated. What's there to fight for? I only care about myself and my immediate family members. Tell me I'm wrong...I'll wait.
Dope
You forgot religion. Religion has become a fundamentalist, materialist mess...it's more about using God to get the things you want rather than diving into the mystery of the divine.
@saintsword23 I did mention religion. But yes I agree that religion is now essentially irrelevant to American society.
@@qdpqbp All whamin are feminists.
Take care of YOU and do what serves YOU.
They are not worth the constant fight and upkeep!
I wish I had felt this way when I was younger. Nothing has given me more grief than intimate relationships. And for me, it has nothing to do with work. It has everything to do with drama. I love women! They're nice to look at, and they make good friends. Intimate relationships however, are a mine field.
I am not, and will never be an incel. I am celibate by choice. I wouldn't think of blaming women for it. I've just moved on to finer things like meditation, gardening, and taking care of my grandkids.
I've always been an outsider whose never really fitted in, so it's my default state. As I've got older I've learnt to make peace with it and found acceptance. It's liberating and refreshing.
Hear, hear
The most common and often used word to describe me, since I was about 12 years old, has been "odd". I don't see it as negative and it's rarely been used in a negative way. It's simply the recognition that I don't do, think or say what other people would. I've always considered myself, if not quite a square peg, certainly not round, and fitting into any hole has always required a lot of effort, effort that as I've aged I simply don't make for lack of any obvious rewards. After (another) redundancy, and a divorce, I retired in my early 50s and immigrated to Thailand. My intention was to live a solitary life with minimal interaction. I ended up helping a few people improve their English, things progressed and I ended up marrying an amazing Thai women. She was a high earning, well educated, corporate type, who retired at 40 to look after her parents. Her family thinks she's "odd", for not getting married, not having kids, giving up a great job, etc, but because I don't fit the foreigner stereotypes they think I'm "odd" as well. I guess that makes us an odd couple, but damn, we fit well together. We have so many shared values, views and simple wants, it's like I found the other shoe that made us a perfect pair. I don't know if you'll ever find your other shoe, but I hope you do, even if you don't, I hope not fitting in doesn't lead to a negative view of life.
Yeah I had the same issue where I could never fit in with any group, from my youngest age. The young days when I actually worried about that and kept trying to fit in was a worst time in my life. Now I look back and am actually amused that once upon a time I actually dreamed of being one of the stupid normies. :D The music these "cool" people listen to alone is probably enough to give me brain cancer.
Here are some factors leading to less interest in relationships: * even skilled occupations don't pay enough * online dating is like a job interview * approaching women can be seen as harassment * all of this makes the chance of rejection even greater.
The approaching women seen as harassment part is an American problem. I was in Puerto Rico last month and those women have no problem with you walking up to them, even grabbing their hand to talk to them.
@@HARRIS2820 I've heard about that. I wonder how it is in Europe.
approaching women is not seen as harrassment. that's just a story shared among terminally online men who want to justify why they shouldn't gather up the courage to ask a woman out.
@@frogery I didn't say that most overtures are seen that way, but yes, it can happen'
the woman can decide she has been harrassed for ANYTHING you say....that is extremely scary.....not even worth talking with them....they created the metoo crap so they can suffer the consequences
The main issue for me at that age 18 to 30 was I didn't want to be rejected and I was low income. It seemed like the women I met then only wanted a man for money.
Wow so much despair and loathing in these comments. Scary that everyone hates and mistrusts everyone. What a time to be alive 😟😭
I checked out 20 years ago. My bipolar wife wrecked our lives and the health service simply made matters worse. My employer had no sympathy with my difficulties in trying to care for her. I saw some nasty goings on at work with false allegations by women against colleagues... proven false, but damage done. I had to divorce my wife to save my life. I moved abroad to get away and haven't worked since. I'm 68 now. For a while i was still subject to military recall but would have refused it. I how have a simple life, hobbies, travel but do it all cheaply to minimise my call on my pension and therefore pay no tax or social charges.
Women are amazing, as long as you never have to answer to one.
Screw that employer
Mashallah
So glad to see men waking up. It's been too long , but it's moving in the right direction.
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@@lilfairycupcakeWhat’s working? Still successful at not having a partner?
@@lilfairycupcake I have no idea what that means. Is that man code for the brain disorder of misogyny?
@@francesguinta8614 yea thats the point. guess you have low critical thinking skills
liberalism is and will always be a severe mental illness@@francesguinta8614
Most women have treated me terribly during my life, and I´m a good looking guy, sure not like a male model or anything like that, but good looking and STILL I´ve been through hell with women, so I´ve just completely stopped trying to find a girlfriend or even befriend women. I literally feel no drive to meet women anymore and honestly going monk mode has brought me more peace than ever and it has helped me to focus on myself and my career and life.
This is the second indications I'm hearing about that ambient reality is over-riding basic instincts that we thought couldn't be over-ridden. The first was watching young mothers so engrossed in their cell phones that they become oblivious and indifferent to what's happening with their small children. I am horrified every time I see it and I see it far too often.
"Why Are So Many Men Checking Out Of Society?" Well let's make a list of reasons: - I'm a man (enough said, cause feminism) - There are expectations that are expected of me because I am a man, but if I do said expectations I am ridiculed, and if I don't do it I am ridiculed. - Society constantly tells me how worthless I am (media) - I'm full of toxic masculinity, because I like to workout and do other masculine driven activities - I'm a loser because I like to play video games - I've been told by college girls I'm a baby killer because of my military service - Hard time talking to girls because unless it's through a phone it's considered creepy to talk in person - I'm a natural rapist because having any interest in a girl is considered property of sexual harassments and they have to be careful around me for just even saying "Hi" - Most people don't know how to flirt - About 90% of places are now considered to be "off limits" to flirting activities and interests (workplace, public areas, ect.) - I "should" have a political team I support but I don't, I'm independent, and that throws people off - Because I'm a minority, Asian, I have to play as a "victim", oppress the Caucasian population and expected to like Asian cultural things, despite being born and raised in America. - I'm not allowed to be happy under any circumstance, because the world is on fire and if they are miserable I have to be miserable instead of making the best of my circumstance and working hard to remove myself from said situation. I could go on, but I don't want to write a full fledge essay on my phone. Great video BTW.
Facts
yep, I don't want to sound like a doomsayer and certainly don't wish for any of this, but something is definitely coming - it's unavoidable now.
@@Alexander_Snowden but what🤔
my favorite part is where you say not allowed to be happy. Thank you sincerely for sharing. Men understand. Cheers
I got called a baby killer too I replied "I worked in an office. For 4 years I didn't touch a single firearm. I almost forgot this was the military. It was a regular job but with a hat and uniform"
here's what it is. if a man has a good woman to provide for and to strive for - it gives him purpose. most men don't have a good woman, and everything seems a bit pointless
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You are putting the cart before the horse. SMH
@@idivas2991 No he isn’t men need an incentive in order to actually give a damn. Women just don’t see it because their indifferent and or they don’t feel obligated to give one.
@@idivas2991 Men are asking women to provide support and you're like "Nah, work on yourself". This is the problem.
Men put the cart before the horse while women engage in hypergamy and self-sterilization from modern pharmaceuticals. I feel awfully for the women left out of the society (of which there is some), but the numbers are probably half or less of the number of men left out.
As a woman, I find it challenging to find a partner that has worked on himself (internally). It’s important for a man to be emotionally available and show leadership. It’s a turn off when your supposedly partner is less manly than you. We want to feel safe, heard, and be loved. There are men like that out there I see it, they are just rare. I 100% believe it’s the way they were raised or how they parent themselves to overcome their upbringing. This goes both ways. Women to learn to shift gear when they come home, if her man shows up as a man, it allows her to soften and be vulnerable, be loving. It’s not a waiting game to see who’s gonna drop their guard first. Choose love not fear
Thank you! I'm a guy who struggles with homosexuality but want no part in that. And I do have desire to marry a woman and protect her . I'm working on controlling my desires for same sex and looking to the Bible for guidance. I want to learn self control before marriage. It's difficult, since this liberal world tells us to engage and indulge instantly in anything that captures our mind. I may not have sexual desire for opposite sex yet but that is not my goal. I want to be the resilient and mentally strong man that God wants me to be. This world seems to want to blur the lines between women and men to confuse us, now I know both sexes are different with different needs. Marriage makes a union between two opposite beings possible. But we have to put work in it, both the man and woman.
@@Isidro-xw7vd Dude, you're gay. You are setting up a woman for a horrible life by pretending you are not.
When I hear "emotionally available" I think "easily manipulated". The reason men are less manly is 50 years of browbeating by women about "toxic masculinity". This is the world Feminism created. Enjoy it.