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The rumors about LARGER wheels negatively effecting your ride quality has gotten DRASTICALLY out of hand. Or have they? DO larger wheels effect the ride? If they do, how so? And if not, where did the rumors come from? Well, Gels sits down to go over the ins and outs of the ENTIRE debate, on todays episode of Myth Or Fact.
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Myth Or Fact is a video series where we debunk commonly misunderstood theories in the automotive scene, and break down the history and the reasoning behind these myths.
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0:00 Hype Intro
0:51 The Fitment Industries Curse
1:32 What effect does a larger wheel have
2:26 Wheel Weight Matters
3:52 How size can effect ride quality
5:10 How wheel size effects your tires
6:00 Outro
#Donk #BigWheels #LowPro
This is for a build where you have roads that are paved well. Drive in a country that you have potholes every two seconds, stanced setups are basically two ton paperweights. We definitely need a lot more rubber to cushion the ride, and not break rims every two minutes.
And yet. For whatever reason I still see so (relatively) many stance builds. Respect all builds but I cringe every time I see one. Because I know I could never do it. With or without the money or intent to fix each and every thing each and every time.
I have 19" wheels on a Mk6 Jetta and they do in fact rub a dub.
18s on MY mk6 jetta and lowered, and they do NOT rub the dub. Now that's a dub. However, more low coming when I get need tires, I need wider tires
I’m ok w 17 on the Jetta + slammed. Plan for this to be my next car 🙏
@@yerpster good choice, 17s would have been my choice but I picked 18s. It lets you go lower too. If your getting a newer jetta 2012+ my channel has lots of jetta mods and reviews to help you out if you need!
I have actually gone from my 20 inches wheels and low profile tires to 18 inches wheels and high profile tires. I like the meaty tire look. It also improves ride quality.
My brother runs 20s on a Lincoln town car and let me tell you. It rides so badly, but hey he got them for free.
The tires are so low profile if he even slides barely in the rain they debead
Dear god
Just cause you got some shit wheels for free doesn’t mean you should put them on…
I have driving wheels and show wheels. On my truck I roll on 18s during the winter, 20s during the summer and 26s for the meets. On my car I have 18s for winter tires, 20s for the rest of the year and 22s for the meets. The 26s and 22s suck for ride quality and handling but they looks baller AF when hard parked.
Why are you driving them in winter at all if they go to shows? Mine stopped seeing snow once I bought a second car. Now she only comes out to play in nice months.
Always felt like it's better sticking close to stock size on aftermarket rims. A lil wider by 1 or 2 sizes, cool. Up in diameter, not so much. Lol.
I wish all my fellow Puerto Ricans in Central Florida could watch this. I always see a lot of them rockin 20"-22" wheels on a 95 corolla.
😂I see that everyday
@@algon6599 same lol
It’s how you know you’re in the ghetto
😂😂💯
Bradenton Fl, but the blacks
From personal experience going from an 18” to a 20” I had to replace a front wheel bearing after a while
The really giant wheels, where you've gone way beyond trading tire for wheel, are actually bad for your drive train as well, you're putting the drivetrain at an increased mechanical disadvantage trying to turn the larger diameter.
I need some wheels with -30000 offset? You down?
Dang, what kind of overfenders you guys running?!
@@FitmentIndustries canopies, so that they could work on the suspension in the rain
Cant go wrong with a good 'ol meaty semi-slick on a 17"
@Shndon430 Hurtado true, but im talking about most european and japanese cars from the 80's and 90's With older BMW's you cant go wrong with 16s/17s/18s
I've got a E36 and getting a new wheel setup. what's a good tire size for 17 inch wheels? I've got 19 inch wheels that barely fit I want a more practical setup.
Great Video! Question would a larger than stock wheel setup effect a manual or automatic transmission. Is that safe or damaging to the engine/transmission?
I went from a 215/70-15 on factory thunderbird wheels to 245/45-18 on nice niche wheels and love it. It is quite a bit rougher, but handles like a dream. I imagine the same kind of change will come when I get some lowering springs.
BUT if a bigger wheel can be lighter than your stock ones JUST IMAGINE how much more lighter a wheel of the same size of your stock ones could be if it was a light weight wheel.
"So you want a Volvo C30/V50/S40 T5" it's got the same engine as the Euro spec Mk2 Ford Focus RS
Yes please, I love my S40 T5
I’m still trying to what tire size won’t rub on my T5. I read a forum last night in which MNIWT said 235/40r18 is what should be on S40’s.
Ordered my rims and tires and coilovers from you guys on Saturday. Super excited. Hurry and send them 😁
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Did you get them yet? Haha
I went from 19 stock to 18 inch on my subaru. I installed meaty tires because of the grip and better handling
That og caddy was originally rockin 14"s bro. 18"s were not common until the early 2000's outside super luxury stuff. I just care about performance. And goin more than +1 usually hurts it. And if you drive your car they get bent af the larger ya go.
I just want the smallest diameter wheels to fit over my Brembos
I want the entire backside of my wheel to be filled with the brake rotor and caliper, it looks badass
Same brakes👌
I’m looking for the lightest wheels possible for my brz but know nothing about brands or where I should start
Thanks @Fitment Industries for putting out good information. A coupla decades ago, I wanted the biggest/widest I could afford ... which wasn't much. Now I can afford more, but went less, from a stock 255/35-21/9-1/2" front and 275/35-21/10-1/2" rear to a "square" 255/45-19/8-1/2" front and rear. A LOT more comfortable, 75 pounds less weight (total), and a great deal more curb protection. Yeah, my skidpad numbers may have suffered a bit (but haven't been on a skidpad lately!). TG
keep up with the great content !!!! love the videos!
I’m glad you said performance and showed a svt mustang💪🏾
I want the artisa elder wheels! Would they rub on my mk6 Jetta. 18x8.5 ?
I have 16 inch rims on my Honda accord, can I safely upsize to 17 or 18 ? What tire size should I go with,?
yes you can! Check out our gallery for some good examples of different specs that work for your car! -> www.fitmentindustries.com/wheel-offset-gallery?sort=available
Can you run the same specs for all wheels? Like for example 19x11 for all wheels around
Need to go back to 14 -16 inch wheel sizes. When you can get your wheels under ten pounds the ride is just so much better in every way.
FI: you’re running the wrong wheel size! Viewers without a car: *interesting*
Am i wearing the wrong size shoe to walk myself to the bus stop 🤔
I already subscribed, but I’m still waiting for Gel to update the Apparel section. More selections please!!!
I have wheels and tires that are 2 1/2 inches wider than recommended, but only 1 inch bigger in diameter. There isn’t a problem with the ride quality but it does walk all over if the road isn’t completely flat.
Could use advice. I have a 2019 wrx base. Looking to go to an 18" over my stock 17" 235/45. I want a bit of a meaty set up. Anyone got any knowledge of running that type of setup that still looks and rides decent?
With all of the bad roads and potholes here I went back to the stock 17" on my 07 STI but I have fender flares now and I run a 275/45r17 tire on a 9.5" wide rim. Loads of grip and more comfort than 18's. I'm over 18" for daily driving, 1 nasty pothole and 2 F'ed wheels convinced me of that. Plus, 17" tires are cheaper then 18" tires and not to mention the mental health when an unexpected pothole/bump appears out of nowhere.
This is true it was a night and day difference between 18s vs 16s on my is250
Is it bad for the auto transmission and 4x4 system to go from 235/50/19 (oem size) to 235/55/19? I want a more comfortable tyre but i'm afraid that the bigger overall size would affect the automatic transmission and 4x4 system over time
So I wanted to get Motegi Mr127s for my 2008 Honda Accord and it says they don’t fit, but one of the stock images shows an 8th gen accord with those wheels? Can someone help? Hopefully Fitment so they can explain lol
I have OE rims of 17x7 with 215/50r17 with a diameter of 25.5. I bought a 18x8 i read around that i need a 235/40r18 just to match my diameter. How much of a difference is a 235/45r18 from a 235/40 will my side wall increase by much and will it effect the ride quality? I've been wrapping my head around this and I'm not sure if it's safe to go from a 40 profile to a 45
I remember putting 22s on my impala and being heartbroken when I had to start cutting and filing
So my car has 19x8 45et offset wheels but the wheels I want are 19x8.5 35et would that be ok to switch to or would that mess something up or look funky it’s a whole 10 difference and I’m tryna figure out the best possible thing before I purchase
It all depends on what kind of car you have !
@@FitmentIndustries well thank you , but long story short I ended up trading in my car getting at 2023 Toyota Camry trd in underground grey and im loving it
Love the holes reference
lmao at the holes reference
I want to put wheels are tires on a 2014 Scion FR-S. I like the vintage look of three spokes wheels (like Vossen FPS 317). Do you have these wheels? I like the 19 staggered
I wouldn’t go any bigger than 18s on the 86 platform. When I bought my frs used it had 19s and while they looked good you’re going to need rubber band tires and the ride is harsh.
We do sell Vossen Wheels, but do not appear to have that model on the site. Shoot us an email at wheels@fitmentindustries.com and we can get sizing that works for you!
I just bought a 2013 BRZ fully stock it’s got 17” is after market 18” going to really make it better what if I just got wider 17” couldn’t that keep me lower
hey. I recommended this topic!! awesome!! thank you.
I like to cruise and have a comfortable ride that can handle potholes to a further extent, so having some meat in the sidewall is my preference. I like the 18 inchers on my GTI. 225/40R18 to be exact, and is my limit. Even inflated tires lower than specified in door jamb.
I would like to make a suggestion. Buy the rims you want, but buy used tires in the profile that you want and have them mounted. Evaluate the ride and if you like it, buy new tires with that profile. Or maybe just get a great idea of performance and ride quality and go up or down in sizing.
I went from a 16" wheel with 205/45 to a Penny Farthing main wheel and my ride improved considerably.
1995 Thunderbird SC, 16" OEM, now 2014 mustang vs 19" ....17" is a better ride overall, the right soft rubber 19 in does help, when I got the wheels had RSA, ride like a shopping cart....now zennas.... Smooth quiet much better.
Bigger ( or smaller) wheels can throw off your speedometer and odometer too.
The difference is almost negligible though depending on the application if I'm not mistaken
ADVICE NEEDED: Can you run 18 inch rims in front and 19 inch in rear ?? I'm contemplating this setup for my Lexus IS350 but don't know if this is a good or bad thing. I tried google searching and don't get an answer.
For sure that is called a staggered setup, Check out our gallery to see how people make those setups work! -->www.fitmentindustries.com/search-wheel-offset-gallery
Just recently swapped out my stock 16s. I wanted to 19 but the guy at the shop strongly advised me not to n to go 18 n im definitely glad i did. My 18s dont have ne step lips, just straight up 5 spoke so they look a lil bigger.
Hey FI guys, love the channel and content, just bought my first set of wheels and tires from you guys! Can't wait to get them and put them on my shitbox. Now hurry up and ship them! 😆
“So you want a 2nd gen Lexus IS”
Nope
"So you want a bicycle"
350?
I’m actually trying to go down a size from 19 to 18 but more importantly down in weight. My stock wheels are almost 35 lbs going to wheels that weight 19 lbs. Trying to go wider as well my car has a staggered set up 225 up front 255 in the rear would like to go 285 or 295 all around
I just got some 19s for a car that came with 17s. Haven't put them on yet... So we'll see how it goes!
I was on lowering springs with 17 inch wheels on my 850 wagon and rubbed at full turn 😂
lmao i was debating if i wanted a 19 or 18 and this comes out an hour later! y'all psychics man
Anybody know the name of that video with bronco?
I went a size bigger tire on my 18 civic si, I couldn't stand the harsh ride with stock tires
I had to size down to 17’s on my WRX. Didn’t wanna risk getting nice wheels and bending them from a pothole for the 3rd time 🤦🏽
What size did you downsize from?
@@zoden6305 went from 18’s to 17’s with a wider and more meaty tire
@@isaacgomez5730 do you feel like you lose more traction in the rain or can’t turn as good?
Who's gonna spend their stimmy on wheels???😂
already did, ordered my te37s last year and I'm still waiting lolol
She’s I just might😂😂
Shit I’m about too 😂 it’s been too long and fitment industries roasted me for having an exhaust first before wheels 🥲
I didn't buy a q56 because the factory wheels were to big 22s and it rode worse than the 20s and the tire were very expensive. But I do have a a thing about light wheels. I could tell the difference on my 240sx.
Y’alls website doesn’t include my car 😬😅 I have a 98 Subaru Forester and you guys only have Impreza and legacy listed
do a popshuvit
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Haaaa.. Proceeds to put 215/30 on a 20inch wheel
Went with 20s for my 2013 vw passat and lowered it 1.5 all the way around it doesn’t ride too bad
Sweet….. I’m doing 20’s on my ‘12 Passat tomorrow
After my xperience, the tire hight(stock) + max 10%.... since most car speedometer is 4-10% wrong. But its all preferance on what people want.. been working with rims/tires for 10yrs..
Lol Holes reference. Good job.
I had a set of 18x8.5 +35 on my Honda with 1in and 1/2 drop and 235/40 tire and it was good, but I decided to go a bit more flush so I bought a different set 18x9.5 +32 same suspension and tire, now I rub when I hit a bump on the Hwy or anywhere with a dip or bump. It’s cringe 😬 when it happens.
Well ride quality is up to the setup of the vehicle. These "Nascar" looking setups can be stuff due to the stiff sidewall. Meats doesn't mean good ride quality. Also if your suspension is slammed then no matter what you run the ride quality is gone. It is really up to how the user sets up their ride. Set it up just right and the ride quality can be good no matter what size wheels you put on your car. I have done it all and the best riding vehicles have been german luxury cars on larger wheels. The suspension setup does a great job.
I’m running 22s on my wrx with a truck conversion lift kit
Rowdy
Can we do a Swang'n n bang'n wheels or slabs? I don't know how people can drive with those lol
well people say that our car is not comfy enought, but as we are carbro, our happiness is much more bring us the comfy that we need, as uncle bent says, in big wheels upgrade it comes a big budget, and trimming, and screwing body panel, and not really useful shock but it's also come some pride and joy... pfft..
On the Megane I’m building, stock wheel size is 5.5x14 with 175/65 tires. You know that width ain’t gonna cut it, so now I have 7x15 with 195/50. Can’t go wider because it would poke out so it’s a pretty functional fitment that looks like shit lol Edit: the current ones weigh roughly the same as stock steelies
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Holes reference 👍. Gels zeroni!
I know for a fact that larger rims look really cool on a car and a wider tire is excellent for grip, but the less rubber you have from low profile tire the crappier it feels inside the car, the more rubber you have between the rim and the tire the more it absorbs noise and vibration, those stock tires look ok and there also made for a purpose, companies spend millions on perfecting the ride, once you alter that with low profile tires that comfort smoothness will be gone and road noise will increase, I guess that's the price you pay for looking cool.
Can you make a video bout the best wheel color for a car color
Running 15"s on my '08 Clio 1.6 and its the pefect size for it!
Drool everytime I watch this channel, those Artisa wheels are beautiful. Unfortunately I run steelies with the smallest possible diameter and tyres with high sidewalls, a combination of extreme potholes and living on a farm road means a set of decent rims and tyres don't last long. Tyres become expensive and rims can only be straightened so many times.
18x7.5 to 19x9 +33 I noticed the weight of the wheel right away. Other than that they look great and no stretch no scrape Mk6 GLI
Yo bro I need some tires maybe rims and tires for my 16 gt350r......can you help in this?
Yo! Here are all of the wheels we offer that would fit the GT350R (Tires can be paired with your order which will be mounted, balanced, and shipped for free!) - www.fitmentindustries.com/store/wheels?year=2016&make=Ford&model=Mustang&trim=Shelby%20GT350R
@@FitmentIndustries thank you, will review. Any top of line rims and tires you would recommend?
Those white rims in the back look sick! Anyone know the brand?
“So you want an Acura TLX”
I went from a 16x7 rim to a 20x8. Runs slightly at full lock
2:08 what's the name of this wheel?
Note big wheel means more weight wich makes acceleration and breaking slower but wider wheels means more grip snd traction, taller diameter alows for even more surface area, (for trains it alows for more area from the center pin to the crank pin (not its name) so the crank pin is further away from center and in the edge of wheel alowing for more power as much larger spin on each rotation well smaller wheels have a shorter rotation so can do more in the same amount of time alowing greater speed but less power and greater chance of wheel slip also alowing for more wheels for more stability and surface area
will your car be slower though if u get bigger diameter?
If the wheel weighs more, you will need more torque to turn the wheels. Larger wheels are often wider which will allow more grip.
I always choose small wheels and as big tires as can be fitted. 1.9bar and riding like on the cloud..
Just bought a set of BC coil-overs
Cant find a video on buying clutches staged clutched 6 puck etc mb be a good video
I have 18x8 on my small sedan ( jetta) I wish it was some 17x9 . I can be lower with a smaller wheel and still have some tire. The stretch life isnt for everyone.
No. I have a CTR,& stock is 20”. I put Volk 18”,& it made the 🚗 sooooo much better!!!
Tbh I didn't do any research and bought wheels and tires for my old Audi A4, and when it came down to it, the size was too big and the offset was wrong. Ended up coming off on the highway due to backspacing problems yikesssss
Glad your okay!🙏🏼
"So you want a Mazdaspeed 6"
Just bought some wheels/tires... Worst thing about them is that I bought them secondhand and couldn't support y'all :((
Hahaha I went from stock 14s to 17s 😂😂
Wide contact doesn't mean more grip🤦🏼lower PSI means means more even contact pressure which means more grip, since more of the tire can uniformly peak IOW, wider for a given sidewall allows more air volume which can therefore be at a lower pressure, but if you go wider on too thin of tire losing air volume pressure needs to be increased so there is no increased grip, in fact it can be less for a given compound Only time contact area alone helps grip is in cases of chemical grip tires as in for drag racing with prepared glued & heated tracks where bonding area is relivent, but even then purposefully small rims featuring vary tall sidewalls is used adding to the the absolute volume of air which needs to be divided be vehicle weight & can be done so without collapsing the more air space you have TLDR drag radials can run down to as low as 4(Yes FOUR)PSI, this is a result of having enough air space to allow low pressure support, & lower PSI means the contract area is more evenly loaded where less of it is melting prematurely so can be used more completely without some parts shearing whilst other parts still have more to give. This means a taller tire can have similar grip to wider ones for a given compound, but packaging & consumer aesthetic reasons means that because everyone wants large rims people incorrectly believe wider means more contact area & contact area means grip, contact evenness means grip which is hard to do even if you have wide tires but there's little air volume within since it'll need to be too high of pressure
Larger? Heck that, I’m going SMALLER. Stock 19s on my Veloster is too much.
went from 15" to 18" lost about 4-6 lbs per wheel
I'm running Ferrada FR4's 20x9.5 front and 20x10.5 +28 offset on a BMW F30. It wasn't easy making these shits fit!
Day 89 of asking for "So you want a VW Passat W8".
so you want an empty wallet and a fist full of hair
Who would want a vw 🤮
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