Leeds United: The Wilderness Years 1975-1988: 35: The Dying of the Light
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Season 1981-82 part five. Drama to the end.
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Life long Everton fan but have to say this is by far the best football documentary series on KZhead. Absolute gripping viewing. Congratulations to you guys for putting this together.👍
Brilliant series of videos. As a teenager totally devastated listening to the WBA game on the radio. But life goes on. So many memories and great days out from champions league victories over Ac Milan to last minute winners at Oldhan in Div 3. It doesn't matter, you keep supporting and living the passion with your fellow fans. It's ups and downs no matter what club you support, love this game, MOT.
Loved the superb footage of the Brighton game. Incredible atmosphere. You had to be there…
Cried my eyes out after we got relegated! How corrupt were the FA, and how much did the press hate us? Ludicrous & unprofessional…the world against Leeds Utd!!! Brilliant series…keep em coming!
The turmoil is brilliantly presented here once again. God we were a mess. The final shots of the press cuttings with the taunts of the press sort of sum up why Leeds fans still have the ‘Us against the World’ mentality.
Another fantastic addition to the amazing video series. I was 10 and the trauma was only beginning!😉 Leeds United by the grace of God!
Just saw this drop ! Obviously not a Leeds fan but this series is a great watch and your film-making is absolutely superb.
Absolutely brilliant please keep up what your doing. It’s simply brilliant! Thank you MOT
Super series and very professional. Better than some in the mainstream sports media could come up with. Very sad to see the clubs demise at that time. Reminds me of cloughs forest side going down after so many great years. So glad to see Leeds back in the top flight. Hope forest do the same soon.
I was 15 and was at the Brighton and West Brom games. Very bad memories of West Brom and relegation. Excellent video as usual.
This is an amazingly watchable series. I used to go and watch Leeds in the Bremner management years and really looking forward to those episodes. The blend of music and social commentary is brilliant and the theme tune is also stuck in my head!
All these films are fantastically put together. Many thanks. I was there at West Brom on that fateful night
This is one of the best things I have watched on YT ,the time and effort that is put into these is well appreciated , not a Leeds fan but love the history of football and the Leeds story is a great one, Did Clarke ever hold his hands up to the relegation all he seemed to do was blame the players?
Have some respect though. This man scored 151 goals, won us the FA cup and scores of important matches. The players weren't good enough. He does say in his autobiography that 'i did it my own way and that was my downfall on some occasions' He was just too young and inexoerienced for such a massive task. The rot had been going on for 8 years and took another 8 to heal. Allan Clarke was a great player, and our finest goal poacher ever, and that's how he should be remembered.
@@stephenoldfield7124 not a question of respect mate , as i said not a Leeds fan and haven't read his autobiography and just going by what i see in these videos, I would say Jimmy Adamson has to take a lot of the blame the majority of his signings were well below the standard Leeds should of been signing at the time
@@stephenoldfield7124 Well said my Leeds biggest hero of all time him and the whole white kit got me hooked on Leeds United and I'm not from Leeds but still a S/T holder.
This series was absolutely brilliant. Please can we do more?..I enjoyed so much as did family and friends, outstanding footage..thank you so much! ALAW
Even watching the Brighton match now gives me hope that Leeds could survive. Arguably the most gripping and best episode so far, but unfortunately the most saddest and regrettable.
1992 = Last ever league champions Karma restored
Even though I'm a Everton supporter this has been brilliantly put together,mad ending,glad your back in top division
Another great video. That West Ham away fixture was in fact my first ever game (Hammers fan) but it was surprising there was no cameras at the crucial West Brom away game.
Midweek league games were different then - no live TV or many proper highlights. Maybe a news film clip if you were lucky.
I was surprised there were no cameras for that match never seen the goal to this day my dad and brother were at the match they said there were some bad violence, rip big cyrille come on you baggies
Leeds United were Truely Mighty 65 -75 God Bless Em
Fantastic videos
Not a Leeds fan -but this series is great. Keep up the good work -subbed!
Not a Leeds fan but these are really well put together. Just a pity they is no video coverage of some of the key games.
As a document of history, this is absolutely brilliant. Possibly the best video so far.
Brilliant stuff. I remember those last 2 games so well. Had forgotten about Chappy though!!!
Another fantastic watch, absolutely brilliantly put together. As an 8 year old Birmingham fan at the time I do remember this relegation dogfight very well. My Dad took me 3 Saturdays running; to see our first away win of the season (on May 1st!) at Notts County, to lose at home to the Champions Liverpool a week later, and to Highfield Road to see Mick Harford score the only goal of the game in the 86th minute v Coventry on our final day which kept us up...we'd let Leeds equalise late on in that 3-3 draw just days earlier, I listened nervously on the radio. Things have changed...teams have to play their last game at the same time these days. Asking West Brom, having secured their top-flight status on the Tuesday night, to put a real shift in against Stoke just 2 days later wasn't ideal...Norwich suffered a similar fate in 1985 as Coventry smashed Champions Everton 4-1 long after the scheduled end to that season, and the Canaries were relegated instead.
Blimey, Mick Harford. I was at Stamford Bridege to see him score Chelsea's first ever Premier league goal against Oldham. I still consider myself partly responsible, as he won a flick on from a header, the whole ground went silent for a second, during which I shouted "go for it yourself Mick". He did, and scored.
Have a look at the team Everton put out in 85. The atmosphere was unbelievable, Regis and Terry Gibson tore them apart from the off. We had to play 3 games in 10 days avd win them all, Everton were rested. Anyway thanks for the loan of your ground, it was much appreciated.
@@richardbaker3000 Coventry caused childhood misery to Canaries fans on that day fortunately it would not happen these days would it !!! Although some results are still changed by VAR so nothing has changed at all really !!!
Hi... Just wanted to drop by to congratulate you on these videos - they're really wonderful. I discovered them recently and have already watched the whole lot twice! Great to see this latest instalment... 👍
Exactly 10 years later we were champions of England!!!
exactly the fa bar stewards unintentionallly did us a favour in the end
I was cheering when Kevin Hird scored that last gasp goal like it was yesterday !! Hard to believe Allan Clarke was only 35 when Leeds went down ! Only 2 years older than Worthington ! Surely he could have pulled on the old boots instead of blaming everyone else ?
How ironic.. Lee Chapman (Stoke City) Relegated Leeds utd... 8 yrs later he was to make amends at Bournemouth away... ... 10 yrs later he was to help Leeds win the 1st division..
The funny old game.
After all this time I can’t watch that without chopping an onion for cover ! What a mess it was - the FA were diabolical don’t very forget the part not having Frank available played in that. Brilliant video as ever ON ON ON
A superb series. Undoubtedly the best produced thing I’ve seen on KZhead.
Such an underrated channel, all these vids are awesome..
Nice to see the FA was as fair and impartial as ever... oh wait.
The atmosphere at that game is on a par with everything since unbelievable from 19,000 plus.
The atmosphere that day was incredible.
Fantastic production which brought back some great memories - even though we went down! I went to this game as a 15 year old kid straight from school. The atmosphere was ominous and everyone in the Leeds end knew what was on the cards if we lost. It was even more mental outside. West Mids Police loved it though - they always enjoyed battering Leeds fans! You've got to admire good old Sniffer "Trouble? What trouble?...I didn't see any trouble!". Loyal to the fans to the end I guess. I didn't mind those early years after in the old 2nd div. It was the start of the casual era and we had some great times travelling up and down the country. It just shows how corrupt and anti-Leeds the FA were along with most of the media.
Allan Clarke.... loyal to the end ...wouldn't speak a bad word about us .Leeds Legend
These videos are gold, and being a Norwich supporter I know all about relegation!
Brilliant video - again your choice of music is absolutely outstanding. "behaved like animals" "monkeys in a zoo" Helpful remarks! Baton charges.. Stadia not fit for purpose... Heysel and Hillsborough loom.. Red Riding Quartet of Books (R R Trilogy of TV films) somehow encapsulates and expands on the sometimes brutal confusion of change in the 1970s and 80s of which football was a part
Superb as always, many thanks for all your hard work making these. Any other Leeds fans concerned that this season, 40 years on, we have Brighton as our last home game having finished 9th the season before.... Apart from that though I don't think the two teams have much in common though
As I remember this was the first season where it was 3pts for a win. If it had still been 2pts a win, we'd have stayed up. MOT
Correct about the introduction of 3 points being in the 1981-82 season,which encouraged more attacking football and discouraged an over-reliance on defensive tactics. Whether Leeds would have stayed up is moot. Here's the bottom of that final First Division table again (sources: Rothmans Football Annual,Breedon Book of Football records): 13 Brighton - Won 13,Drawn 13,Lost 16 - Goals for 43,Against 52 - Points 52 14 Coventry - W 13,D 11,L 18 - F 56,A 62 - Points 50 15 Notts County - W 13,D 8,L 21 - F 61,A 69 - Points 47 16 Birmingham - W 10,D 14,L 18 - F 53,A 61 - Points 44 17 West Bromwich Albion - W 11,D 11,L 20 - F 46,A 57 - Points 44 18 Stoke - W 12,D 8,L 22 - F 44,A 63 - Points 44 19 Sunderland - W 11,D 11,L 20 - F 38,A 58 - Points 44 _____________________________________________________________________________ 20 Leeds - W 10,D 12,L 20 - F 39,A 61 - Points 42 21 Wolves - W 10,D 10,L 22 - F 32,A 63 - Points 40 22 Middlesbrough - W 8,D 15,L 19 - F 34,A 62 - Points 39
Crazy to think 10 years later Lukic would be back and win the title...
Been following this for so long now. Great episode, thanks mate
In 1972 We won the FA cup on the Saturday, on Monday we played Wolves if we beat them we win the league doing the double. Leeds asked if we could move the game but the FA and Wolves refused. We lost 2. 1 The FA have always hated Leeds. How can you play a cup final on Saturday and a league game on Monday . I was fucking livid at the time and still hate the FA after 50 years on. I was 12 at the time. MOT.
@@ashleyhyne7027 Not angry at all, All I’m saying is, that would not have happened to any other club they would have changed the fixtures for them even in those days it happened. Remember the fixtures are made well before the FA cup final so get back in your box and stop being jealous as they say stop being jealous, stop being a moronic Leeds hater.🤢🤢😂😂😂
@@TheEx3rgj We actually lost the Wolves games 2-1 a draw would've been sufficient which I think we would've achieved if the game was played Tuesday or Wednesday.
@@mick6370 Definitely, I think so too. Sorry I thought I remember it being 1 0 it must have been the 1 goal in it that threw me out, Thanks got reminding me anyway.
A few years later Wolves play Liverpool at home in a title decider with QPR top after playing all their games. But this time the league give Liverpool 10 days to prepare due to playing in Europe. Double standards much?!
@@Darwinion Exactly!
Brilliant 👍
The quality of the production is exceptional.
this is my era this is pure class ,19k thousand fans i was 17 years old at this time,i am so glad your uploading this footage,ive been telling new bie leeds fans that when they sing "we are the champions of europe"they be doing it wrong,one side with the fist and the other side with the fist,none of this scarf waving and chanting it at 100 miles a hour pathetic shit,i am looking very very closely if i can see myself in the crowd,i am 57 now thanks for the upload again leeds was totally different back then,no billy bremner statue and the leeds sport shop was opposite the united chip shop
Yeah, same age as you. Stood on the right side of the kop (middle centre right), Celtic to the right, Rangers to the left, if I remember, the right side was responsible for the "champions of Europe" part, the left "we are the champions" all guided by the bloke in the black beret ( kippax I think), as he always did home and away. Painful season that but such great memories of travels up and down the country.
@@robbiesaddleton6210 your right remember the half leeds hat half celtic and rangers,i tell newbies that and think i am making it up,good old days before you bought replica tops i use to buy the peacock crest and sow it on a white t shirt,its like the same club same area but 2 different concepts,this was all before they built the m621,ive been wanting too see footage from this era between 78 too just prior to wilkinson came in
@@robbiesaddleton6210 the guy with the black berry hat was called Collar, from Garforth, and yes he was part of the Kippax who stood left side of the fence. Collar normally on top of it for a song. It was The Kippax reunion yesterday and most turned up even though its over 30yrs since since it was banned and disbanded.
@@bradbb8013 I used to travel up from the other side of London and we were often invited to the kippax christmas do or end of season do, normally somewhere like chaplin's in the merrion centre, mainly through all the connections with Marion Fudge (RIP). I also went to Spain and Sweden with them. Great bunch of people and some fond memories of the respect they gave us for travelling such distances home and away. Those were the happy days of cheap turnstile tickets (£1.50) and £9 return train ticket to Leeds from Kings Cross ! MOT
@@robbiesaddleton6210 yeh, good do's and good days. Had a player of the year do as well and a few 1st team players would come along with the winner ! The players would participate fully in a wild night of celebrating being Leeds ! ! Today's players would run a fucking mile
I was at the WBA game and only 15years old. Never forget it. Nightmare trying to get back to Birmingham International train station, mostly on foot.
As a manager Clarke never learnt from his mistakes with slagging off players a constant occurrence.
A brilliant footballer, one of the best one on one finishers of all time in this country. That'll do me. The board screwed Leeds
@@stephenoldfield7124 read what I said. As a manager he was terrible.
@@DN21Media you read and learn what S Oldfield told U - Sniffer best marksman England have Ever had from Jimmy Greaves to Harry K
@@jamescorlett5272I wasn’t talking about his playing career. Jesus Why don’t people read?
@@DN21Media What did Jesus say ? 😳
Great series, love watching it. What I always admire about Leeds is how the legacy of the club is handed down.
I was at West Brom with my Dad that game as I am an Albion fan but he is Leeds. He had to protect me from his own people. What an embarrassment
Another great video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Whoever you are LUFCfilms you are a maestro ...Hitchock,Truffaud, Bertolucci all rolled into one , your films are so finely crafted,deeply evocative and full of bitter sweet melancholy and pathos which is sometimes too much to bear for some of us 'Ups and Downs' Leeds United fans ..
These films are great, and I'm not even a Leeds fan
Bit overkill isn't it? They're very good but let's not get carried away.
Brilliant as always
I was in Paris in 75, also the Ray Tinkler show as we lost to WBA at home ,add to that the match at the Hawthorns featured on here ..we shall grow globally as our appeal is pretty unique and people find that attractive .To see again the dislike of our club shown by certain gutter press reporters in the newspaper cuttings towards the end, all part of the follow like sheep mentality from the press and anywhere south of the city. It's a long time back but the decision to suspend Frank Worthington on 20 points but allow at least TWENTY other players on the same amount to play on is shocking, but then you see the three man team overlooking the hearing were from London,Essex and Kent say no more.. MOT. ALAW
Spot on 👍🏻
Fantastic series, takes me right back and I still feel the hurt, was a 12 year old ST holder and cried my eyes out. Believe it or not, I was the only Leeds fan in my school year (in a Leeds suburban school). I have still not seen any footage from the WBA game, only the fences coming down. Frank Worthington, what a player and character. If we had signed him earlier we would surely have stayed up. Clarke seemed to have an issue with most of the first team players at some stage of the season, I can't see Kenny Burns taking being dropped well
Maybe he had a point. Look at that lot from Salford now. Anyone with a tough mind would go in and clear the lot out. Clarke was an abrasive character who didn't suffer fools; and there were a good few of them at Leeds. Trouble is, he didn't have the experience or the time to do it.
Hi Paul intresting comment .I went to st.marys menston school from 1964 to 1968 from when it first opened.i.lived in ilkley then I'm from guiseley.there were only 2 of us supporting leeds going to games.at that time.my friend Tim bell from horsforth went to the Liverpool cup final in 65.he got me going to away games I was clueless how to do that age 12/13.what surprised me was how leeds united was hated and dispised throughout west Yorkshire even back then some people loved us most people hated us man u. got a lot of sympathy on the back of the Munich air disaster and loads of those leeds hating supporters in our school when leeds played Bayern Munich in the 75 final I watched the game in the clothiers pub in yeadon I was one of the few leeds fans watching the game and the locals wanted the t.v turned off.the landlord in the flyover pub on queensway yeadon hated leeds united.and wished us to lose.had to watch yourself going to leeds games in those days we were hated wearing a leeds scarf it was an invitation to get beaten up.you were not safe out alone going home from a game.i walked back to guiseley from Leeds in May 1970 having got of a coach from Manchester at 2 in the morning. after the Chelsea replay final we lost everything the leauge the Celtic semi finals and the last thing we last was the cup final.i never recovered from that season.i got loads of abuse and anti leeds comments for passing people in cars shouting Chelsea and we hate leeds from local people.thats what it was like around leeds back then.intresting.doesent suprise me it was like that when I went to school.
Another non-Leeds fan here - congratulations on this series. You even have me rooting for Leeds as the films go on! And yes, incredible vindictiveness shown to them on the way down, from the inexplicable Worthington ban to the spiteful columns by the hacks. Looking forward to the next installment.
I felt the same way watching this excellent video,and I'm a Watford fan. 1982 was our promotion year,and we also got to know only too well about shabby treatment at the pens and typewriters of the gentlemen of the press. It started when we had to audacity to pinch a late winner at their favourite club Tottenham in November that year,and a small,dwindling minority of them still hold a grudge to this day!
I was 11 and remember the Brighton match very clearly. Stood with my dad on the middle shelf of Lowfields Road. In an odd way, the win probably helped to send us down because emotions were spent. Might have stood a chance knowing that they had to win at WBA?
Ends with my favourite song of the 80's and one of my all time top 5
I hope they include situation yazoo in the next installment !
What was the song and who sang it great song
Say Hello Wave Goodbye, Soft Cell. The 12" version especially is a true classic.
@@DeniseFactor I was a big Soft Cell detractor at the time but I could not deny the magnificence of this song. As the years have gone by, I appreciate it even more. Peerless vocals by Marc Almond, a real finest hour, not just for him but for the 1980s as well.
as bad as things were they were good times , respect to Alan , still as nice today as he was then. God bless our club. ALAW.
I was at West Brom, the invasion came from Leeds end after they pulled the fence down. I did a runner before they got out on the streets
Me too as I am Albion but I was there with my Dad, a Leeds fan 😮
Heartbreaking.
9:18 Scarfers! In 1982!😂Another brilliant video. Best football channel on YT.
Not since the early days of youtube, before big studios and production companies made sure their product wasn't uploaded, and my g/f and I would wait breathlessly for each week's new Paranormal Witness, (which, in hindsight, only had 1 or 2 good episodes), have I been so delighted to see a new episode of a serial on this platform. Even with the relative lack of football highlights on TV at the time (which was about to get much worse) this is an extraordinary piece of social history. I saw a complaint on here that the music was inappropriate cos 'punk' was actually outsold by the Bee Gees and Abba. That totally misses the point. The music (brilliantly chosen) is that which reflects the timbre of the time. ABBA might be 'timeless' and I'm not slagging them off, but that's the point-they weren't a reflection (production values aside) of the era. The Stranglers and the Undertones were. On top of which, the hours in the newspaper libraries, the YTV monstrosities (which, to a London boy like me are magnificently grotesque) all add up to this work of art. I use that phrase advisedly. There are very few things on KZhead worthy of the collocation. This is one of them. It is a work of art. From a Chelsea fan, my absolute devotion.
Please clarify what you mean by YTV monstrosities.
I'm not criticising the music in these videos the whole package is top rate and the creator has a right to have whatever music he likes as the soundtrack. But what do you mean that the Stranglers and thje undertones reflected the era when tbh the average working class youth (and especially females) would have hardly heard of the Undertones (thery hardly set the charts aligtht) and the Stranglers were hardly at their peak in the early 80. From my time on the terraces back then in the early 80s was jazz-funk, soul and outside London and the south east maybe northern soul although that had pretty much died off by the 1980s, So I know just what that other poster was on about - if you were school or had recently left one attended by workling class football fans you'd remewmber that punk or associated music was aq monhrity taste which probably about 5 people were into in a school year of about 250 and that dance music and in 1980/'81 2Tone and pop music were what everyone listened to.
Superb reportage...just wondered why the Richard Baker... BBC 1 news report.. .. Look North Steve Lee... Calendar Richard whiteley... material was not included in the west brom riot footage?...
John Helm is very passionate commentating the Brighton match.
What a goal from Gary Hampson.
Hi there - please 🙏 could you tell us when the next episode is due out? I’m really looking forward to going back in time in reliving the years in which Eddie Gray was tasked at rebuilding the club. Cheers!!!
Back on them when the day job calms down!
@@Lufcfilms no worries!!! Thanks for confirming!!!
Terry Connor and big Frank - the right men at the right club at the wrong time. Connor later admitted that, once first division defenders sussed him out, he should have dropped back into the reserves to add more to his game, but Leeds were too starved of resources to do so. Even if they had survived the drop, it's difficult to imagine that team lasting much longer in the top flight. It needed a complete root and branch but the funds were too low to do so.
BTW you should do other clubs with a similar theme. Clubs like forest and celtic in the 90s with their decline. Villas relegation not long after being league champions and European Cup winners. So many clubs to choose. Even Leeds a second time after Wilkinson to o'leary to eventual relegation and league 1. Hope you do more of these videos.
Yes, seeing Villa getting relegated would be top quality entertainment. CCFC.
How about Wolves nearly going bust twice and managing to get relegated three - yes,three! - years in a row,and for a fourth time in five seasons? And all that,plus haviung half their ground closed off for safety reasons post-Bradford fire,in the space of four years (1982-86)!
The dramatic rise and fall of Swansea would be another. From bottom division to the very pinnacle of the League in just 3 and a half years (1978-81),then from top flight to bottom division (via Christmas 1985 bankruptcy and rescue) in another 3 years (1983-86).
@@rjjcms1 we enjoyed that in Coventry.
I think this video was recommended to me - and I'm glad it was,it's brilliantly put together - because I've been taking a long nostalgic journey through the 80s via its music but also taking in big news stories (Chernobyl for example),ups and downs in sports especially football and various other stuff,mostly good but a small number of items not so good,I remember from the time in question. It's my interest in all those things as well as social,economic and geopolitical history. To a soundtrack featuring the likes of Sledgehammer and Addicted to Love,Holding Back the Years and Why Can't This Be Love? among countless other songs,I've currently reached the start of June 1986,which means the opening skirmishes of the Mexico 86 World Cup: I've revisited the first matches in that tournament for holders Italy,Brazil,Spain,France,Argentina with you know who,the USSR and the hosts Mexico starting out by playing Belgium. Northern Ireland's first game next,then England's,with Scotland's to follow shortly after. At the same time on the domestic front there was a stack of Football League clubs in all kinds of trouble,from Middlesbrough getting relegated to the Third Division while having their old Ayresome Park ground padlocked and coming within hours of liquidation before being saved - and there was also the mess that Wolves,Swansea and a host of other clubs were in,including Leeds.
... spotted leeds fans at gewiss stadium on Monday evening 28 February in Atalanta vs Sampdoria ... let's hope this is the beginning of a good friendship and maybe a friendly match
Thanks for posting. Great video……. if not a bit tragic. I was 8 years old at the time. Football was banned in our house so I don’t actually remember it despite living 15 minutes walk from the ground. Fine margins in football. So unlucky to go down. Didn’t realise Lee Chapman helped seal our fate. When he signed for us, I remember Chappie saying how much he’d hated Leeds as a youngster. Quite a strange thing to say about a club you’ve just joined. 😆 Scoring the goal to send us down must’ve been a special day for him. I always wonder what would’ve happened if we’d escaped the drop. Would Alan Clarke have gone on to become a legendary manager at Leeds? Would the promising crop of youngsters have stayed and proved their worth with us? We’ll never know of course.
I was 9 at the time. there is an article in SHOOT mags about Leeds relegation and Allan Clarke given the sack.... And the photo captioned Cyrille Regis ia about to score the goal which condemned Leeds to the Second Division. I still remember it... Still remember it to this day.😭😭😭
Sniffer- Legend.
Absolutely. Allan should be and will always be remembered as one of Leeds United's greatest strikers. In my opinion he was most certainly their best ever English striker.
Absolutely. Aside of John Charles who was also great at centre half, Allan Clarke is the finest striker Leeds United have ever had by a mile, and certainly unmatched as a finisher. No competition. Either foot, brilliant with his head, lethal one on one. Just a class act. And he knew it.
@@damienabbott9805 Not only Leeds best striker but for me England's best striker from 1970-75.
Last game at West Brom. ....who were the players who bottled it?
But what it did mean were eight years in the second division and there is no doubt in my mind that a fan's relationship with his / her club is much more personal when backs are to the wall / chips are down (and any other associated clichés).
Any news on further episodes? Gripping stuff this far in..
Short break due to work but picking up again soon
Terry o Connor a true pro
Brilliant and sad.
Leeds hated us (WBA), because they always blamed us for costing them the title in 1970. It wasn't us, it was the ref. The linesman, raised his flag, but the ref played on. But there have been some great games between us. Ever since.
What an utterly gripping saga. I love these videos and love the Leeds Odyssey. We (Carlisle United) were going up to Division 2. Leeds are nothing if not interesting. Love the drama reflected in the Kate Bush song.
Leeds are nothing? Probably one of the biggest fan bases in the world.
@@desertdocker it’s a turn of phrase! I was not saying Leeds are nothing in terms of being rude! It’s simply a turn of phrase used to highlight a characteristic! I
@@desertdocker further to this; I would also note that when my club played Leeds; unlike sheff Wed and Sheff United Leeds filled all our away end seating and terrace behind the goal. The reason I watch Leeds videos is that I have a healthy respect for LUFC!
Hey Marc - any update on the new episode?
Next week 👍
@@Lufcfilms Look forward to it mate!
@@Lufcfilms can you throw in a pretenders track in one of your episodes
@9:15 YNWA? Never heard us sing that before. Was this a regular thing in the 80s, or just pure emotion from "thinking" we'd stayed up?
I'd think during the 70s & up to mid 80s pretty well every club sang this. The best I saw at Elland Road was when we beat Man City in FA cup1977.
@@thaiscottie65 Yep agree with that about Man City in the 5th FA Cup in 77 Cherry's goal and that save by Corrigan from Clarke's header.
Wonder why sometimes they had sponsors on their shirts but didn't in some games? Summat to do with the TV being there?
Yes . The policy then not to allow sponsors on the shirt in a televised match.
Clarke✊Leeds to the bone. MOT.
Superb as ever, thanks 👍 Also highlights why Leeds fans have inordinate paranoia about the FA..
Sounds like you have every reason to. So many modern social justice movements, from taking the knee to complaining about old white men, are all very well but should have happened 40 years earlier.
I was there that night supporting Leeds Utd. My first away game. Our coach arrived late to the game and we jumped off unescorted, and quickly made our way to the away turnstiles. We were greeted by a loud chorus of WEST BROM from inside the ground, and I thought to myself, Jesus those WBA fans are really loud. Only then to hear the next line of, 'fuck off West Brom, fuck off West Brom', to the tune of, 'Oh, I do like to be by the seaside." This was my first away game, and I soon realised our supporters sang different songs at away grounds. Songs such as, 'We are the nutters, the nutters from Leeds," I remember in particular being sung in the away end that night. The police chief's news statement he ordered a baton charge to save lives is pure BS. He approached the away end to read out loud the riot act, ordering a baton charge, but the rioting had already subsided. The fans were subdued and ready to go home. I personally witnessed innocent Leeds fans not involved in any trouble getting smashed over the head with a truncheon as the police indiscriminately hit any head they could cosh. In one particular incident outside the ground, where the Leeds coaches were parked, a lad was stood outside his coach waiting for the door to open, and a cop smashed him over the head.
1982 Leeds v Brighton 2022 Leeds v Brighton history repeating itself ?????
Thankfully no! It was uncannily similar though
I do hope that cop survived the brocken glasses Nightmare .
Broke his windows did he? Very "pane" ful I expect.
Jasper, great attacking full back.
In present day the West Brom match will be shown live.
My Dad was a season ticket holder during the late 60’s and throughout the 70’s… my first match without him was the Brighton game shown.. As a family, with another family I went to the WBA game as well… I remember the crowd trouble clearly… I was only 10(ish) at the time so wasn’t aware of the background story until now… also wasn’t aware of the vitriol aimed at us by the press… Particularly Patrick Barclay who I’ll never read his articles in the same way again……
Rip big frankie, Nothing new, the FA hated Leeds then and it’s no different now..
They seemed to have it in for you, as did the press. Why?
Happy days.
How ironic.. 1982.. 15 may... Leeds v Brighton.... 2022..15 may leeds v Brighton...
Let's hope it will not be a crunch match to avoid relegation from the PL.
Exactly 40 years
Sad to say, even if they had survived, you have to wonder if they were in any fit state to last much longer in the old first.
when the next episode?
When I can free myself up from the day job!🙂
@@Lufcfilms Take your time...Don't lose out on quality by being rushed..This is obviously a life's work and one of the best sagas on You Tube...
Do you think it’s poetic that Leeds have to beat Brighton forty years later ?
Revie did all he could to turn Leeds Utd onto the path of being a great club, but the directors were too amateurish and small minded to take it - and sadly Revie was too good at making enemies in the FA and media, and they were always all too happy to pay it back to the club.
Leeds singing YNYA!
YNYA?
The pride faded, then came the fall.
brilliant if traumatic - music: pitch perfect - the FA still hates us as does the London media with one or two notable exceptions.
Why Leeds relegated? 1.AC man-management 2.bad away record 3.underperforming of some players
Leeds United, the wilderness years 1887 _ 2023..
It was completely unjust to warn Fenwick but ban Worthington. On the other hand over 42 games that didn't send Leeds down. Gray, Connor, Hart, Worthington, Graham..how did Leeds go down? Was it Alan Clarke's fault?
It was the board's fault. The rot set in from 1974 and was such that it took 8 years to get back. Clarke gambled and he had to. It was sad really as he wss one of the greatest players ever to put on the white shirt and loves the club to its foundations. Arrogant, yes, but that's what made him the player he was
@@stephenoldfield7124 OK, well I went to my first game in 81 and I don't support Leeds. Watching these videos, Leeds were good under Armfield and got into Europe under Adamson. Did the rot really set in, in 74?
They were good under Armfield but would have been better under Giles, as was intended. The board were unambitious, allowing Jordan and McQueen to go, not fighting to keep Tony Currie. Why Dunncan McKenzie was sold was baffling. Armfield had two or three good seasons, yes, but they sacked him. Adamson was a disaster. Clarke was too young and a cheap gamble. If the board had listened to Revie and appointed Giles, the dynasty could well have continued. Instead they appointed his chief critic which was a slap in the face to him, and after he'd gone the players tried to win the European cup really for Revie. Yes the rot was 8 years. They never finished outside the top 4 under Revie in ten years: as soon as he went they dropped like a stone: 9th in 75, 10th by 77.
@@richardbaker3000 The board saw many top players leave but only brought a handful of new ones in….e.g. Giles, Bremner, Bates & Yorath out but only Currie & Flynn in. The board preferred to spend on the ground, forgetting that without great players those new seats would remain empty. This is why Jordan & McQueen left IMO….and they were right. Then when Currie and Frank Gray made their excuses, the board panicked and produced a war chest for the alcoholic Adamson who splurged £2m on Greenhoff, Curtis, Hird, Sabella, Parlane, Entwistle and Chandler. None of these players worked out and were eventually sold at a loss of £1.5m. Then Clarke splashed a further £1.6m on Barnes, Burns & the returning Frank Gray who all failed too. This resulted in relegation and those three being sold for a further loss of £1.4m. A barely half full ground in Div 2 that didn’t come close to covering the wage bill ensured the players were sold at knock down prices to get them off the pay roll and crystallised the losses which crippled Leeds for the next six years. A new board led by Leslie Silver & Bill Fotherby accepted that promotion on a:shoe string wasn’t going to happen and decided to back new manager Howard Wilkinson by raising cash from any means possible and guaranteeing these loans with their homes as security. This high stakes strategy paid off, with the right manager in place Leeds got promoted and in 92 were crowned League Champions once more
@@GGMBW thanks, so twice the club was mismanaged at board level. You would have thought the board would have learnt it's lesson during the O'Leary era.