What can INEOS do when Tadej Pogacar is like this | UAE Tour 2022 Stage 7 Jebel Hafeet
2022 ж. 5 Нау.
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Lanterne Rouge presents highlights of Stage 7 of UAE Tour 2022, where Adam Yates needed to try and drop Tadej Pogacar on Jebel Hafeet for the second year in a row.
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last time i was this early, LR still made vids about 10km and marathon runs
Pogacar with a decent team is scary.
6:14 100% Look at Pogs face, he's grimacing more than he did in the entire 2021 TDF. And watch Pog when they crest the climb, the massive shrug of his shoulders is the tell-tale sign of relief the effort was over. Hard to know how much more he could actually take and if Yates as it in him to push pog beyond the limit. But it's fun seeing him as human every once in a while lmao
Im not sure thats a grimace as so much as a smile. Think pog likes it when a race is on and he has to put some work in.
The question is, how many times will we read "struggling" into his body language while he still wins?
His doctors have definitely coached him on appropriate facial expressions 😆
@@jashjahnstan2921 same here, I thought he was laughing, so was Yates when he realised he couldn't drop him
He might still be feeling the effects from the cash at Strada, he kept stretching there.
It did look like Tadej was hurting when Yates attacked, but Tadej was mostly in the saddle while Yates was sprinting.
6:13 Pog looked like he was struggling a bit but nothing he couldnt handle
Will love to hear your comments on the Strade Bianchi! The kid is unstoppable and Valverde showed what an “old” men can you.
its on the lrcp channel.
Valverde showed what he always does. Not pull, kill the cooperation in G2, make the attacker win and sprint for 2nd. Whoop-the-fucking-doo!
Thank god u back! ur vids make me find the weill to live every time
Missed you man. I hope you're okay. I was eagerly waiting for all the updates on all the tours going on since it's not easy to keep up with the tours as a student in the middle of a job and exams. Where can I watch your videos for the missed stages?
His coverage is mostly on the podcast channel when things aren't here btw. He's covered a bunch of classics over there if you are interested but no video sadly.
GCN+ but 40£ for the year! But all the races that are filmed are available.
he has a 2nd channel, videos nearly daily
Pogacar is le Patron of cycling. Nothing anyone can do when he's riding like that.
1:47, we all die on the bike, but the Pro's seem to go on forever.. We see there they have a limit, it's just so weird that they go so hard, till they cannot go at atll, then drop off.
Weird tactic but I would’ve put lots of effort into getting Ganna into the break away. He was close on GC and is ridiculously strong, make UAE chase all day burning all the domestiques. This kind of ridiculous hard day would’ve shifted the favour into Yates’ favour once they hit the climb 🤔🤔🤔
so happy for Pello!
Did you guys watch Strade Bianche? Alaphilippe was literally flying in one of the gravel sections
UAE are looking sooo strong this season. Very good team effort.
Jumbo and UAE look very well prepared this season, i expect to see lots of exhibitions from them this season.
Beast mode
I agree with you. The only thing that Yates could’ve done differently was to, not close the gap to Almeida and sit on Pogacar. Force Pogacar to close or not close. Personally I think Pogacar would’ve closed to Almeida and, Yates might’ve had an opportunity to counter attack after that. But that’s easy enough to say in hindsight and whilst sitting on my couch 😂
Not sure there is anybody in the peloton who can put Pogacar under any significant pressure! The young man is as much a phenomenon as was Merckx in his day!
Frankly the only strategy is running Pog over with the team car
I can't remember where I read this or of it is even real but I feel like I saw somewhere that Pog said that Yates attack was one of the hardest he has had to cover. If that really was true because it definitely did not look easy according to Pog's face, if Yates had a bit more in the tank maybe we could've seen him potentially take the stage if he could've held a gap after the attack. Maybe he thought Pog snapped to him and followed him so he eased up as to not gas himself thinking that an extra few seconds would have been useless.
Jumbo Visma was fuck*ng unbelievable. Hoping for a video
Pogi is insane
I think yeates couldn't do anything on this stage. Pogi looks unstoppable with their team...
i have no clue how, but would love to see someone put some kind of strategy or pressure on this guy Pogi. right now looks easy and i'd love to see some good fights on climbs and TTs. i guess i am hoping primoz can stay upright until july so we can see jumbo vs uae, and maybe thomas can build the form one last time.
Pog's pain face was on, and he was in the wheel. Odds are if draft wasn't such a factor here separation could occur, but I don't think he would gain enough time to take the Jersey. These guys are close in 1-week races, and if Yates focused his TT, he'd be in it for a chance. Fact is whoever goes into Jebel Hafeet in the lead of these 2 is going to win the overall.
Is Luke plapp the best gc rider for this tdf for Ineos? Best tt and good climbing in this race at least
Forget about Ineos this year's grand tours. Its all about UAE and JV. For real!!!
I get anxious when LR doesn't post 😥
Pogacar is just the best around. If he isn't too unlucky, he will win his third tour de france in a row and the Tour of Flanders as well. I don't think there is anyone at this point who can actually beat him
There is nothing any one can do @ this time to Tadej Pogacar , every now and then you get mega athletes , messi and ronaldo soccer , Lebron James NBA . Tadej Pogacar is that but for cycling hes ahead of the other cyclist he is the best cyclist in the world ATM . no stopping him
Well it's obvious! Spray a corner with his water bottle. Yates had to force Pog to wipe out on the decent by going crazy over the top and to the finish!
When are INEOS going to change their tactics? They're doing the same thing they did when they were team sky (pacing the front) but expecting a different result. Some other comments here saying get Ganna in the break - that's an example of trying something, at least it would have put Pog/UAE under some pressure vs. being so fresh for the climb
the answer is probably nothing
they can sign him lol
I never really understood the whole Sky train thing being any benefit. They always had the strongest rider in Froome so they just paced him up the climb and destroy the opposition. What I am trying to say is that if you have the strongest rider then pacing by a team is immaterial in my opinion. Movistar and Jumbo Visma have demonstrated that in recent years because Pogacar has just sat on the back of their train and then just left them for dead whenever he felt like it. Strada Bianche demonstrated that as well. This is what makes me smile when pundits advise teams cooperating to attack a certain rider. Yeah, like that's going to happen.
I don't know if Froome was always the best climber honestly. More like he might have had the best endurance, which is kind of different. Putting Froome and for example contador 1v1 on a climb, I wouldn't know who will win, I'd personally give the edge to Contador 6-7 times out of 10. Also Froome always had a good ITT, which means other contenders had to attack him, his train just either made this impossible due to the hard pace or brought back attackers after they already used a lot of their energy, which ofcourse only helped Froome later on the climb to blow them away when they were more exhausted due to that failed attempt. Pogacar's wins of the tour are somewhat different. Pogacar made the difference on Roglic in 2020 in an individual ITT stage, where the TJV train couldn't help Roglic. Moreover it was the perfect storm against Roglic for Pogacar: a special ITT with a long steep climb, Roglic having a bad day and Pog having a good day. Was it an ITT like usually ie. more flat, Pogacar wouldn't have won the 2020 TdF. And if for example Roglic had that weaker day on a regular mountain stage, his teams train might have been able to keep the pressure on Pogacar enough to not allow him to take enough time. In 2021 arguably Pogacars team wasn't much weaker than any other team, only Ineos might have been a bit stronger, but not by much. And again Pog had the better ITT. A strong 'sky' train arguably helps the best ITT GC riders team the most, especially if there are better overall climbers. Another way a 'sky' team train is usefull, is if you have multiple irons in the race, which Sky several times had. This way you first eliminate all other domestiques with your strong train and then you just cycle attack with your two good riders, something TJV likely will try to do this year at the TdF if things don't go wrong. If I look at the current peloton, I'd say Evenepoel would be best suited with something like a sky train. He has a very strong ITT, he isn't the best climber on steep sections and lacks the punch. He is the kind of rider that needs to ride like froome: steady hard pace with good cadence. This is why I think after 2026 he either needs to be certain that QST has a proper GC train (unlikely) or he needs to try and get into a team like TJV, UAE or Ineos. Another rider that could use a sky train is Van Aert in one week races imo. I am not going to say he'd have won Tirreno last year, but it would have been much closer, considering he had to pace nearly the entire climb back then himself. He could with a proper train clean up quite a lot one week races imo.
LR has a members only video called "Chris Froome running a train through Contador and Nibali" explaining why the train is so effective. Join channel membership for a dollar and have a look at it. In short, if your GC man (like Froome for example) can win time in TT and has a strong kick, then having a train is super effective. Basically, imagine Froome has a 6,2W/kg FTP, and your main competition each have a 6.5W/kg FTP. Then on a climb, even if your domestiques can't do 6.5W/kg for 20 minutes or the whole climb, they only have to do it for a shorter time, like say 5 minutes, and then pull off and let the next guy drive on the front at 6.5W/kg, over and over. Then the competition will have to go over their threshold to attack, while Froome stays in the draft and probably below threshold, and once the attacker slows after going over threshold to recover, the 6.5W/kg train will drag them back, and then in the last bit of the climb Froome will be fresher than guys that have been watt spiking to attack on the climb, and Froome will be able to attack and gap them and win time, despite not having the highest W/kg for the climb or being the strongest climber. This is why you see Pog and Rog attack in the last km of mountain top finishes. They have incredible 2 minute power, and basically just sit on their train, or whoever's train is pulling, and then kick out of the bunch in the last 2 minutes and gap everyone to win time.
Great showing from Yates tho
2:49 They told me it would help to have some water for the climb.... More is better, yes?
Why didn't Strakhov push for Intermediate Sprint points this race like he did for every other race? He was 7 points behind Philipsen in the general points standings, he could have won the Green jersey
Pogacar is like G. Lemond was before he was shot
Good form Wellens for sure could have done 10w/kg on that climb ez
Yates cannot let pogacar sit on his wheel. P sat on, got a draft, for several min No. Cannot do P never allowed to sit on, rule no. 1 Y attacked approx 3 times. Rather y has to attack 8-20 times. Attack, P makes it back, sit up. Attack again, repeat. Only tiny chance repeat attacks time after time work-b c p is better than y. But tiny chance No chance is letting P sit on.
Yates couldend have donne more then this ! Pogacar is this moment the king of grand tours.
Ineos could « accidentally » cause a crash that takes out Pogacar in the next race
Thomas could really make it look like an authentic accident.
@@stephenbarrett8861 He'd probably end up taking out half his team.
@@stephenbarrett8861 The new version of the sky train is Ineos lining up in front of Jumbo/UAE and then letting Thomas do his thing. Worked pretty well for them last year :)
sign him. the end.
What Yates could have done different: teach his body to spin a bit more, lots of muscle fatigue is compounded at 75 RPMs over a several day stage race; switch to a slightly lighter rim brake bike. With those two he might have had more of a snap to finish the job with his late attack…. Emphasis on Might Have… Pogi is next level.
The king is dead! Long live the king! You are watching the new Merckx. Even Merckx says so... Pogo beat down the entire field at Strada. A move that recalls the halcyon days of Merckx and Hinault. Dominating the a race so completely that is seems impossible. I miss the days that top racers whined that is was "impossible" to win both classics and grand tours. Impossible for them but not for the greatest. Remember this kid is 23 and will get STRONGER for the next 5 or so years. You are not watching him at his highest potential.
I hope he becomes better, might also be blossoming very early, being already near his physical peak, it happens (though more experience is never bad). However I feel his strade win gets overstated. Yes, he did a 50km solo, but he also finished slower than the winners of last year and in 2019, possibly indicating the peloton was just slow this time. Moreover Bernal finished 3rd last year only after VDP and Alaphilippe, did people back then say he'd win classic monuments etc? Strade seems like the kind of race where all kinds of riders can do good: flemish and ardenne classic riders, GC riders, ... Don't get me wrong, he's the best cyclist in the world at the moment, possibly the best cyclist in decades, but people are just now acting like he did an amazing performance just because he did a 50km solo, while ignoring the remaining context, ie. the peloton was dysfunctional for the most part after his attack, none of the riders that finished before him last year were present (in the finale), ...
@@MDP1702 No one has won monuments and grand tours in the same year since Hinault. Pogo has won 2 TdF back to back, LBL (easily the hardest one day race in terms of fitness), UAE 2x, TA and Lombardia. His palmares in terms of total talent already are better than anyone since Hinault. He won Stada AFTER winning UAE, how many have done that? No one. MVP, Wout and Ali are all one day racers that will never win a GT much less a TdF so they should not be mentioned in the same breath as Pogo. Bernal is good but not as good as Pogo... 1 TdF and 1 Giro. TA and Paris-Nice. No monument. Pogo already as 2 monuments and 2 TdF plus TA and UAE. And Pogo is 2 years younger than him. Whatever. This KID is the greatest of his day and is one of the three greatest cyclists to ever mount a bike. All that remains to be seen is if he can the ultimate GOAT.
@@Sills71 *No one has won monuments and grand tours in the same year since Hinault.* Except Roglic (2020), Di Luca (2007), Rominger (1992), Jalabert (1995), Fignon (1989), Bugno (1990), Berzin (1994) and Cunego (2004). And there are many more GT winners that won monuments in the year after or before too. And this while in the past +-20-30 years generally GT riders weren't really expected to go for monuments except maybe something like Lombardy or LBL, most just focused on riding stage races. *Pogo has won 2 TdF back to back, LBL (easily the hardest one day race in terms of fitness), UAE 2x, TA and Lombardia.* I did say he might be the best cyclist in decades so far, haven't I? *He won Stada AFTER winning UAE* And? Are you saying UAE made him weaker? Ofcourse not, it gave him course rhythm. *how many have done that?* How many have tried that would be a better question. UAE exists for only four years. Bernal could maybe pull it of if he tried (and without his fall), he finished 3rd at strade last year afterall and I doubt he'd do bad at UAE. Anyway, I don't see why this a good metric. Most people that ride UAE for GC don't care for strade (especially not since PN starts the day after and TA 2 days later, at least this year), and most riders that focus on strade don't care about UAE GC. *MVP, Wout and Ali are all one day racers that will never win a GT much less a TdF so they should not be mentioned in the same breath as Pogo.* Most likely not. Then again it isn't a focus for them. Who knows what Van Aert could do if he dedicates 1-3 seasons to try it, including lower weight etc. He has the timetrial, he can climb decently, so who knows. It is unlikely he'd ever try it though, with his team already having elite GT riders and the effort in change required. Maybe if he'd won all monuments (except Lombardy) and the road WC, then he might try it as a 'why not?' idea. Roglic won Vuelta 3x, Romandia 2x, TA, UAE, Basque 2x, LBL, OG ITT. And he is also only riding WT level for 5 years. And only 3 years since he started winning (stage) races. Who knows what his palmares would have been had he started in cycling instead of ski-jumping, he might be considered similarly to how Pogacar is now.
What can anyone do
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Pogocar will most likely end up as the second greatest cyclist of all time, behind Merckx.
he will definitely end up surpassing Merckx. More versatile, wayyy more competition, and not doping.
I would say it depends on whether there's another big sting operation. I'd love to think Pogacar and Roglic are just monsters but the fact that a tiny country like Slovenia has two of the most dominant cyclists out of pretty much nowhere,is more than a little suspicious.
Maybe switch to their rim brakes haha
I think if the climb was taken hotter, Pog just sits in his wheel and burns him at the line nonetheless. (I also think Pog could just set the kom if he needed to, but because he time-trials so well, he never needs to.)
Let's be straight. The years where Ineos/Sky train put contenders in deep asphyxiation has been over since Froome was a contender. The riding has gotten way more aggressive for that style of tactic to dominate. Why? Riders on Ineos got older, 3 or 4 other teams are at Ineos level or better, and the 2 Slovenians talent. The only thing Ineos can do is hope Pogacar crashes. They can't beat him.
Only chance for Ineos to beat Pogacar is if they buy Roglic.
Ineos can hire away Vinegegaard V tiny chance can beat pogacar
Pay their dues to UCI like Sky used to. (brown envelope) :)
They've gotta do a Carl Williams and hire a hitman and take Pogacar out with a proper hit
Yates has no chance. Barring a mechanical ⚙️
Watch and learn 🤣😅🤣
I know what Ineos can do. Give their riders what Pogacar is taking.
Break out the brown JIFFY bags. That's all they can do.
I would have let Almeda go and roll the dice, Pog obviously prefers to win gc then his teammate. let Pog close the gap and then counter him
well, maybe they should dope and claim use of hypobaric chambers too .. lol !!
Isolate and attack. Yates can't do that alone.
Its not about tactics when you are up against such a huge talent its about natural ability. The only hope of beating Pogacar is Roglic. There is no one at Ineos that can do it
pogi using rim brakes also = win
Cycling is much too important - as an economical and ecological means of transport, as means of emancipation, as a milestone in the history of feminism, as a path out of poverty in rural areas in the most impoverished and unequal areas of the world - for it to be associated at all with professional cycling. The history of the bicycle is one of the machine that has broken more social and fuel-efficiency barriers than any other machine invented by us, it shouldn't be debased by cool carbon at $2000 a kg. Use your voice LinternaRoja, that is what I would say, anyhow.
Is Tadej using drugs if yes how can we know ?
Maybe drinking slovenian super yogurts...? 🤔🤷♂️
Lol yeah team Ketones (ineos) doesn't need help with juicing
The only thing Ineos should do ,is to get Pogacar ´s doctor in their team!🤐🤐
dope harder?
Get rid of the pinarello dogma f disc and switch to a lighter rim brake bike. Pogacar‘s rim V3RS weight just at 6.8kg, Dogma F dics should have 200grams more.
They need swap to rim brake if they want beat him *-*