In advance of theTour de France 2022, Lanterne Rouge recaps how Tadej Pogacar won the Tour de France 2021 by such a wide margin.
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It is also important the change in riding style of Pogacar. Now he is riding 170 mm cranks and he has more cadence, but it seems he climbs worse than before in 2020 and 2021 when he was riding 172,5 cranks and he climbed with lower cadence. Vingegaard is using 172,5 cranks and he is only 174 cm, a bikefitter would say he is using a very long cranks for him but he is the best climber in the world riding like that, for example Wout Van Aert also uses 172,5 and he is almost 189cm. That could be interesting to analyze also. Thanks a lot for your videos! Merry Christmas to you!
I've been studying this extensively, and I've come to the conclusion he won by cycling faster than everyone else.
the mind boggles, who'd have thought it
*on average
Has your assertion been peer reviewed?
@@thedownunderverse The assumption I have peers is laughable
@@BlueSoulTiger even in aggregate, he rode the course faster than everyone else.
I hope you are aware that the closed caption changes "Tadej Pogacar" into "Teddy Pikachu" and it made me laugh for a solid minute. Great video as always, LR!
Omg it alternates between Pagatcha and Pikachu :D gold Later he becomes Pegasus, Howdy Pagatcha and Pogba...
👀 ???? A whole minute, eh?
Hahaha truly a solid minute
I hope they stop kicking out riders first Covid ... get over it 🙄
Zinger god is also brilliant!
"Why should I be worried about Jonas Vingegaard? Well this aged well..🤣😂🤣😂
I so hope Jumbo doesn't run into something like a sign or virus, they are the only real threat I feel. Same with Pog btw, without him TJV would probably 1-2 the podium with Jonas and Roglic. edit: 1 year later -> TJV wins Giro ( Primoz ), Tour ( Jonas ) AND Vuelta with their super domestique Sepp Kuss. Ow, while also coming 1-2-3 on the podium there. I mean, when will the other teams wake up and realize their approach is outdated? I hope next year there will be tougher fights!
If I remember Correctly Rohan Dennis and one other driver from Jimbo Visma have gotten covid. Was in the dutch news last week somewhere
This is the battle we want to see: the best rider against the best team. (Although TJV team tactics are somewhat questionable sometimes) There are complications for TJV though: WVA wil ride his own race while he could be the deciding factor pulling the race apart where it doesn’t favor Pogacar. (And, as mentioned, they miss Dennis) I hope all these contenders will not suffer any set backs for a battle royal!
May Ineos and Bora get into the battle !
@@sirjojo7278 Ofc, it would make gc more interesting. That's the fear thought, that it's going to be two teams and if one falls out for some reason for gc it will be 'boring' from that moment who will win. I don't doubt other teams will be fighting for podium, but I don't see any of them saying up front they plan to challenge for the win ( ofc they will ALL say that but realistically ).
Jonas loses time in the first week imo. Roglic doesn’t look at 100%. I hope I’m wrong
I really hope for a strong Roglic this year.. pls no crashes for any of the gc guys to keep it interesting =) I'm also looking forward to see what tactics bora comes up with
Hopefully Vlasov with Kämna will be there
@@janullrichultra8446 Vlasov seemed really strong earlier this year. It's disappointing that we didn't get to see him in the Tour de Suisse.
Also ineos
@@Tibovl Podium candidate, but I can't see him win the tour.
@@MarvinWestmaas Sure, I don't think he's likely to win. But I think he's gonna impress people.
Turn on subtitles: "How did Teddy Pikachu win the 2021 Tour de France?" Thank you KZhead subtitles
That look on WVA’s face as Roglic comes in….
rain+ cold+ Pogo= 100% win. What about Pogo in hot weather and burning sun?
U saw in mt ventoux. Jonas dropped him
Jep, Pog has a much higher tolerance for rainy and cold weather than most if any other riders, but his tolerance for hot conditions seems to be slightly lower. Lets see if JV (and maybe others) can put the hurt on him during some warmer days.
@@jrn4141 But Pog was in pole position and knew he would close the gap on the descent
@@DrJRMCFC pog tried to stay with him and couldnot. It was rigo who closed the gap together with carapaz, btw tadej is everything but a good descender
These videos are the reason why I love your channel so much.
haha spicy edit there LR, when he said "why should I be?" that was the day before the final time trial, with a 5:45 lead
great recap, thank you Lanterne!
"Why should I be worried?" "You're right, dumb question."
tbh it was a pretty silly question, like how tf would Jonas put 6 minutes into Tadej in a single stage (a TT no less)?
I. Just. Love. You. Honestly those videos are great but with your personality they get much better. I love this mix between analysis and a good sense of humor
interview at the end reminds me the 'trash edit" you did. That was so good
Keen for your videos of this year's race
Kung’s reaction to that pog tt always gets me😂. I think pog didn’t really push himself last year as he didn’t have any real competition, will be much more interesting if rog can avoid crashing this year
Jonas is on a whole other lvl this year as well!
@@isaksidenius7059 hahaha ;d he said that pogacar is on another leve ... pogacar destroy vingegaard in each competition ;d
@@mariyankolev4427 stupid comment, they haven't raced each other recently
@@mariyankolev4427 They have only raced against eachother in Tirreno this year and Vingegaard wasn't at his best level there, nowhere close to what he showed in the Dauphiné.
@@mariyankolev4427 you do remember when jonas dropped pogacar on mont ventoux last year? Right? Saying that Pogacar destroys Jonas is a bit much. Especially considering that they havent raced man against man while in top form for a while.
I absolutely love how responded to this reporters question. Reminds me of Kobe and his attitude towards competition. 7:34
In context, pog was minutes ahead of Vingegaard. Here the clip is used referring to the potential of Vingegaard this year, which of course is not the original interpretation.
I kind of remember him backtracking after saying this too, which is a shame because at this point there really wasn't a reason to worry so his reaction was pretty great/warranted.
Just the video we needed right now
Excellent vid. Thank you
Interesting career choice for an Australian lawyer. I was also a lawyer in Sydney, moved to publishing in Hong Kong. More power to you!!
Loved this video format! More like this please guys!
It was kind of amazing to see Pogacar as such a giant force in the tour being the only rider (still in the race) capable of doing what he is doing. I wish both jumbo visma and UAE good luck so they can both put up the best fight and give us the best show.
Nicely done...sets the table and starts putting me in that three week TDF zone...you know that zone where your focus is totally on the race where you kind of hold your breath until it's over and like a drug you go through withdrawals when it's over. I am an avid cycling fan but no other race on the calendar has the same effect. I guess for the two of you no tears take a breath and a little vacation 😌.
I’ll spoil it for you, Pogacar wins..
we were robbed, Roglic was in such a good form....lets hope this time we can have a good show.
so.... trust me this year Pogacar will make 10 minutes at Roglic ...
Yeah he was super lean at the beginning last year.
@@mariyankolev4427 Remind me
Yup pogacar was doing for sure
Aside from the usual factors (Crashes, COVID) the biggest threat to Pog is unseasonably hot weather over multiple back to back stages. His tactics/racecraft in the moment is just superb. No doubt Jonas is a beast and a huge talent…I hope he does well but he’s got his work cut out for him to even podium.
If he Rolglic was not there the podium is easy. Its because they Are two and one of Them has to attack pog early. Its the only way
Even with the weather, he's got the doctors to get him where he needs to be
I've got a theory. Pogacar doesn't do that good on the legendary / high climbs. He got dropped on col de la loze in 2020, which was that epic epic high mountain stage. Then on Ventoux they dropped him. So Maybe Alpe D Huez? But I think that Alpe D Huez might actually suite him a little better so it's tough.
The man is climbing thin air CAT1 mountains on the largest chainring whilst smashing gaps to the chasers if its a hot day then its hot for the peloton. I really dont think theres a match in the near future in TdF for Tadej. Lets just enjoy the horror!!
@@Oldgames1000 Alpe isn't a high mountain dude. You must mean Galibier.
🤞🤞🤞Please no crashes for Roglic this year, PLEASE!!!! 😱 Also, looking forward to your recaps 😁
Is Roglic crash prone or did he just have bad luck?
@@irjake I'd like to think last year's TDF was just bad luck
@@irjake crash prone.
Why should I be worried about Vangagaard? Fast forward to 2022 you realize that didn’t age well. Jonas and Team Jumbo-Visma killing it
tomrow Jonas is going to be left in dust :D
@@aditrex he hold his own pretty good I think
@@aditrex just like today ;p
@@aditrex nice prediction
To be fair to pog, that question was asked before the final TT when jonas was way to far behind to really make up the difference.
Im just hoping covid will not have such a big effect on the tour with teams having to drop out and such. Besides that its hard to tell how good Pogacar really is this year compared to Jonas and Roglic but it will be exciting to see.
Every time I see the “Why should I be?” clip, it’s cracks me up how you can see how hard he tries to keep a straight face.
Special vitamins always special vitamins....
TP “Why should i Be worried?” JV “Hold my beer”
Now, he can say that he's worried by Vingegaard
Just ruptured my meniscus in a cycling crashes so on crutches for a fair while, silver lining I get to watch every second of the tour 🙌🙈😅
Good discussion ✌️
BOOM, Jonas delivered!
I think we need a few hot weather mountain stages for pog to crack
When does the preview to the tdf come on lrcp?
7:35 - little do you know Sunny Jim ;-)
Stefan Küng's face tells you all you need to know about how Pog won the TDF.
Kung is just projecting. You aint on the podium at worlds or roubaix if you are natty bro.
Yup pog was on some crazy dope
Exceptional young man
Well " why i should be worried " have an answer after a year wow man
Why should I be worried? 🤔🥇
Dope testing is slowly but surely creeping towards you, that's why!
@@savagepro9060 Conspiracy theories...doping for losers ego...🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
I am so exited to see what vingegård Can do this year with him having a Sharif captin role
I think the Pogacar-hot weather situation is more of a myth dictated by wishful thinking: he's been really good at the UAE Tour in the last 2 years and he won the last edition of the Tour of California. So I don't think he has problems with hot weather, if anything it looks like his performances don't drop in cold conditions
UAE tour is in February, and temps in the climbing stages at higher elevations average in the 20-25C range.
aged like wine.
"errr, why should I be worried?"... classic line
'Rugged up' Love the lingo, I'm stealing that one buddy
Stage 8. I think even he was surprised by the time he took that day. I'm not so sure about Ventoux - maybe Pog was not willing to go so deep as Vingegu, also knowing the descent was still to come. When it mattered, on MTF stages, he was able to match or better him.
Even before ventoux vingegaard lost time to Pog
yearning for the days of sky/froome
I think that year after year from 2020 on, Tadej has become almost perfect. Sprinting and bike handling are his only handycaps and he lost to only the very best. If his team is healthy I really dont think that even a perfect Roglic or Bernal can beat him now nevermind Vingegaard who already shows cracks in this last crit of Dauphiné. He looks alot stronger and focused in 2022. As I see after this early season he is going for the absolut record as a TdF winner.
sprinting is surely a strength of his. there has never been an elite GC rider with a flat sprint as good as tadej
Vingegaard was much better than Roglic in Dauphine Stage 8. Jumbo have more or less 2 Roglic level riders
@@niksvucans7162 Roglic is levels above Vingegaard as far this year goes. To choose a stage that both riders rode together side by side from a competition that Roglic won and conclude that they are at the same level is just mad!! lOl And I like Vingegaard but I´m not a fanatic like you!
Bernal? It was never, much less now after the accident, a rival for Pogacar
@@mercedesvlos Thats why I wrote: "perfect". Read much? And never you say... The last TdF and Giro winner (before Tadej imposing status) Ineos GC never had a chance? Interesting opinion. Cheers
Sonny got no flak for that move. Obviously the events after that are terrible for him, but others need to know that causing falls like that is not on.
Absolutely agree. And the way "Hollywood" Colbrelli waved it off....not nice, sportsmanship at it's worst imo.
Watch out for future upcoming AREFAYNE Aklilu 🤞 17 years old 9 sec behind Biniam Grimay on TT , he can sprint and climb and he is very good on TT ... I hope uci academy gives him a chance like Bini
I would love to be able to cycle through stage 11, it looks incredibly smooth and beautiful (I'm not a cyclist, don't ask me to go up a lot of slopes, and I'm from the Canary Islands, so I can't easily ride things like that here. I have the Teide National Park , and that's it)
I've heard amazing things about cycling there and honestly, the best way to experience the world that I've found is about 10-15mph
what interview was that Pog quote from "why should i be worried"
Sometime after one of the last stages. Don't know if it was just the TT left or also 1-2 mountain stages still.
On the ventoux stage pogacar said afterwards that he was dehydrated and could get water from anaywhere
I heard he did some sessions with Eddie Hall earlier that year
@@smeetsnoud1 good one lol
This is perfect route for O'Connor short of cobbles. There's such a climb heavy repetitive route again twice over galibier just bookending stages this year if all goes well I think eventually Jonas will be asked to not sacrifice podium or top5 since dauphine showed that but one of two will go from range on planned attack forcing tadej to cover and giving one a free ride on day where hopefully they have diamonds in there legs. As we saw in tirreno when tadej buries gas he goes away quick and Jonas himself said his acceleration is just incredible and nobody was in that league. Jonas had poor tt at tirreno is obviously stronger, and as long as cobbles don't put them back after tadej looking elite on pave, that would be issue that tadej will let a Thomas or kung a cobbler who can climb take yellow until maybe alpe d-huez where I'd guess tjv want jersey. If tadej is confident taking it there it's bad sign meaning he will just keep attacking everyone on every big clean climb for rest of race again nullifying the trains he's only one even Alberto couldn't detail an elite train. He needed mano a Mano. 2014 Vuelta. O'Connor will be constantly given slack as a non top TT and he suits all those climb heavy stages wouldn't be surprised if a tjv member is sacrificed to see O'Connor podium. Early in race Thomas, vlasov, should show well but roglic, pog, Jonas, O'Connor, a recovered Yates it's a lot of climbing better be a natural. GC my guess gets polka dots again otherwise Pinot and Guerrero could be exciting for polkadot race. 🥂 Cheers felicitations. Side note welens supposed to go to uae not benoot but a similar type role but if Swiss army knife ,big engine, rouleur , great for Flanders ambition. They pulled a Stefan kung, catanneo, bisseger even it's still not having wva, winning in general classification framework is hardest thing to do in cycling,but besides that best one day rider in cycling hands down so even all that help which is pie in sky just levels field wouldn't make team better. Not until healthy joao is used like Castro climbing domestiques and his Jonas who's 19 in ayuso bummer in timing because they will be monsters eventually with that depth could sweep podiums like ineos. 100%right about Milan I said it when people started snickering look at numbers competition wasn't there. He definitely was dropped as Jonas says it's best legs he ever had in his life and while he would have won summit finish the pretty noticeable back off I'd tadejs style to drop heart rate get back in aerobic rhythm and he's smart enough to know there was a descent to charge back on so best get lactate out of legs. If tadej goes for jersey on alpe d'huez he's ambitious historic climb be huge indicator of his comfort and confidence as he would stay in wheels unless he feels he's untouchable. Again agreed the way these guys avoid each other is annoying for VG pick lol or gambling if nothing else ☺️🏞️🏆two podiums given healthy race primoz , Jonas, tadej or tadej, Jonas , O'Connor vlasov in the mix not sure about 3 weeks but he's performing at the 4th highest all around level imo this year. Just think O'Connor rides so easy he will be final group 3rd week if not all race aside from solo victories. If tadej loses much like Alberto he's emptying chamber so if he loses to one I think it's tjv strength and tactics and both better him and if he has legs like strade, Flanders, tirreno etc I think teams will fight for 2nd maybe worst thing for tjv is a ganna,Dvb, Thomas led ineos they won't bully that horsepower and even if they help one stage that train will help pog and spare his team a lot of work especially if he has best legs. Let those two torture peloton and do your thing. Wellness would be great with tadej ,hirschi,not sure if trentin stays but kung, campanaerts, cattaneo, bisseger all game changers fir UAE imo hope to see it Dvb types to take over from bjerg as they ascend, ride, valleys, or become classics contender. Wellness wasn't getting chances at lotto as Belgian maybe victor isn't as far fetched I'd thought.✌️rambling I know your time lot stuff
Through thorough research, I have concluded he should have been worried about Vingegaard
I hope TJV does a better job at protecting Roglic this year. Last years crash where he was riding alone in the bunch was hard to watch.
Why does UAE use the UCI code UAD?
Nice!
I really think Roglic can take Pogacar one on one uphill sprint after a long alpine climb then on TTs keep it very very close... But adding up the time will weigh the scales in Pogs favour but Roglic team has far more aces up their sleeve.
I honestly think that on the flat Roglic is slightly better, on a harder TT stage, it can go either way.
Wow this video aged well
I feel so much desire on behalf of Roglic
pog guy seems quite good
Nice prediction.
"Why should I be?" did not age well
2:07 better Van Aert face than the Dumo/Van Aert reaction face
Pogacar in 2021 after winning TDF "Why should I be worried?" (about Vingegaard)....well.....😂
"Why should I be worried ? " Now you know :D
7:33 That did not age well............
What gear are they running?
12-speed PEDs
How does Pogacar compare to other TDF winners? We seem to have fallen into a new era coincidentally with Covid, and it’s difficult to judge the dominance of Pog.
Around Froome’s level
@@LanterneRougeCycling Accomplishments or physiology?
@@asnark7115 physiology
I think that was a tactical retreat on Ventoux. He has shown to be a pretty good tactician. Jonas was stronger on the climb, no doubt, but seems that Tadej let the others catch him to assist on the downhill capture. Either way, there are so many excellent riders that nearly every stage will be exciting. What will Alaphilippe, MVdP and Wout do? What team will be very strong and smart and what team will go the Movistar route and leave us scratching our heads? Let us all hope that covid stays the heck out of the race.
Someone tell me about that sign incident??? Wtf?
Can someone tell me why the UCI doesn't to team time trials in grand tours now?
The race organisers choose - the Vuelta has TTT this year
Cosmo Catalano is turning in his grave... wait he's alive!
I remember a time (during Amstrong era) where it was always said that if a rider goes over 6 watts/kilo for a period of time over 15 minutes, he was most definitely doped... I assume those numbers have changed now, since we keep seeing guys like that go over the "limit" again and again. What has changed, in the past 20 years? (please dont tell me, its physiologic cuz that bs)
the show must go on we want to see and follow the phenomenal races and the huge drama the big Winners the sad loser ... no space for "silly" doping question or are you NOT entertained?
Pretty much everything: nutrition in and outside races ,training, recovery methods.... Lance already said in his podcast that cycling is much more of a science today
Not saying it’s dope free, but the very peek numbers have gone down since then or even since Contador times. Plus 6w/kg for 15 is quite achievable for a normal person if you’re small, lean and fit.
It’s 7watts per 15 no?
Armstrong claimed he could hold over 7W/kg for 30 minutes, so that gives you an idea of how he was doped to the moon. Regardless of whether there's something in the orange juice these days, two things are significantly different - feeding and power measurement. Bike-based power meters were really clunky in the super-doper era, now it's a 7g penalty to have a power meter on your bike. Always training in power zones and having that kind of data fed to your coach to alter your training plan makes a big difference. Much easier to course-correct if someone looks like they're starting to overtrain or burn out, and that makes it possible for people to get more threshold-expanding training days in every year. The ethos around food has also completely changed - we've gone from starving yourself on training rides (in order to "train your body to run off nothing") to optimizing the ratio of sugars to maximize carbohydrate intake. Riders are eating as many calories as they possibly can now, and that makes their recovery much more manageable. Not as much need to transfuse your blood after every stage when you're eating adequate amounts of food. Now obviously there's room for suspicion, because we've already seen some ridiculous stuff this year (Jay Vine doing 6.3W/kg for 30+ minutes and getting HARD DROPPED by Remco in Tour of Norway, completely wtf???), but there's the counter argument to that from people like Iñigo San Millan (who has Pog's training files) who say that most power estimations made by journalists are way overestimated.
The only chance for a competitive Tour is if the doping controllers get to work again.
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@@gb2983 Simulating an engaging conversation.
@@VFink-qt2pt Insults exchanged in the usual manner
@@gb2983 Snarky remark mentioning the person who gave birth to you.
Closed captioning calls him “teddy pikachu”
well it turns out he should be worried
Total dominance in cycling's biggest race...not something many people are comfortable with. I remember the raised eyebrows when team sky and Froomey won all those TdFs but not so much as a whisper re the two Slovenians beating the world. We shall see....🤫
I find total dominance to be boring, even if the person/team I'm rooting for. Sport is supposed to be competitive and when it's not it's boring. I enjoyed this TdF because we really didn't know if was going to be Tadej or Jonas (until we did) and throw in Geraint Thomas who made it interesting at third place as well. It was really a fun TdF this year.
1:15 "that's how AF won the stage" LOL... yes, that's how
the biggest threat would be intense drug testing, just hope the other contenders don't fall the I need more drugs to win, it's not that I am against drugs, what I am against is the lack of tools to detect the lance Armstrong of the tour. the governor body should just legalize many of what they ban since they can't detect or stop, seems like they are doing a decent job of bike motors detection
@7:30 I guess we have the answer to that now!
“Why should i be worried?” If i was Vingegaard, i would be wearing Pogacar’s arse like a hungry dog. I think he’s a good chance this year - maybe better than Roglic? The big question this year is - who’s going to come 4th?
Unless GC is a lock with JV in first and there isn't an unsurmountable gap or the gap is too small, at some point in the end I see one of the two JV riders sacrificing himself for the other, in which case double podium would be difficult. However it still is absolutely possible.
This clip is from an interview before the final tt when Pogacar had almost 6 minutes lead on Vingegaard. His response makes sense.
With Dope
I think the 'weakness' of Pog last year on Ventoux was a bit of gamesmanship. He probably wanted to convey to the public (which had been pushing conspiracy theories of the sort made when a cyclist is seen to be totally dominant) that he was human after all. He knew a long downhill descent was coming up. This year at two stages of Tirreno-Adriatico - especially at Carpegna - Pog was able to leave Vingegaard behind effortlessly as if Vingegaard and the rest were standing still.
Yeah but ACTUALLY *mumbling something about fitness peaks and team dynamics*
Vingegaard was wel under his level at Tirreno though, he did like 0.4w/kg less than his normal average climbing level on Carpegna. Ofcourse it could again have been the colder conditions that limited most riders power, but not that of Pog like in stage 8 last year. It isn't really a good comparison to mount ventoux stages where Vingegaard was on his peak level in hotter conditions.
Not after what happened on stage 11 this year again. J.W. Showed it wasn’t just a one time thing.
J.V. Correction
#dope
He lost the stage with disc brakes and win back to back with rim brakes. That is the logical answer.
The Pog looks leaner this year, not sure what that means. Could mean something, could mean nothing.
It iritates me a little bit that they avoid each other. It would be more interesting when they would race more races together.
Answer: Best Doping like every tour de france winner in last 40 years
I really hope it won't be a repeat of last year, weeks 2 and 3 were so boring. Even worse than last year's bernal at the giro, which was also utterly dominant
Why should I be worried?
The big question is: is Thomas de Gent still worried about Pogacar? 🙂
He now knows why he should be worried
PogaCAR has the engine but he needs "Dr Lamborghini's" Fuel Injection!
Yes we know you are frustrated...😭😭😭
@@bobo-ph6xm according to Pogacar: TANK you
3:15 Gotta love seeing them face 🥴
7:35