Vacuum Pressure Hydrogen fuel cell defeats high gas prices using hydrogen from H2O.
2011 ж. 4 Сәу.
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Convert almost any engine to run on a mix of hydrogen and gasoline by using the engines vacuum to assist in the production of HHo gas made from water and stainless steel plates you can find easily. Nasa has tested this technology as has verified it increases mileage on v8 engines. This version is very safe and very affordable and out performs all others. We don't sell it. We show you how to build it. ( Build at your own risk. Death can result from misuse or malfunction.*) For information use only, Do not attempt. For entertainment uses only. Approximate cost $55
High gas prices ...... who's come back to this gem while prices are 4x standard
Bro... prices are wat higher than 4X. They should be $0.30/litre. The government is fuc*ing us hard
I love how he's made this out of a couple of pickle jars... I was thinking "what if they break?!"... then I realised he could pull over at almost any store and buy a new jar of pickles... genius
Just buy a plastic container it'll last longer
$2 fix. And no mechanic needed.
Here they come car running off of water 💦 kzhead.info/sun/gbGBYdR6eIudjKs/bejne.html Here they come car running off of water💦
🧓 Son, have you seen my large canning jars around? They are not where I keep them🤨!
those are some good-ass pickles too
I've put a system in an older 63 dodge with a slant 6 in it. It works FANTASTIC, gives you a LOT more power and will save you 2 to 3 times in fuel consumption. The engine compartment cooled off right away and I dialed the carburetor and timing way back. I heartily recommend this for any car currently on the market,and the older ones too. Now all I need to do is figure out a way to put a small bottle on my bike!!!
We have a new video coming out when the timing is right that will show a much safer way of implementing the system. The Primary system itself hasn't changed much but you will find our improvements quite intriguing. Thanks very much for the comment, be sure and subscribe.
@@metalpresstvdoes that Silverado still run
holy fuck cant believe it just checking back after planning to set one up for years and now i got a 61 d200 so glad to see someone witha similar whip making it work. < 3
@@metalpresstvwhere’s it at?
@@metalpresstvwhen you making the video
This is THE most backyard, country-bunking, half-baked, rudimentary ground ape contraption invention I have ever come across. And I love it.
Appalachian Engineering
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"Don't be disillusioned by how fancy this looks." -priceless
Pickle jar and wires. I'm a Going to do this on a friend Car 1st To make sure I am doing This right
If not by that - you'll be disillusioned by the lack of MPG and performance gains.
do your home work its not tru. you battery will be empty befor you can start the car hahahahaha
I was coming to comment this 😂😂😂 dead
His cousin needed his 500ml beaker for a meth lab so he had to make due with what he had.
This video aged like bourbon.
Context?
Great demonstration of why they (oil/car industry and oligarchs) were eager to move everyone from carburetors to fuel injection.
You can do the same thing with fuel injection just a little more difficult cause you have to send it through the intake manifold
@@anthonykocks3385would you need to reprogram the vehicle?
12 years ago... Wow that is awesome home science & no need for an ejector button any more. I just love that we are creating explosive gasses, and the wires are looped on the connecting ends lol. That priceless & i love it. When i was a kid about 50 years ago, my brother & i used to make a hydrogen type gas with aluminum shavings we collected under the telephone lines and caustic soda. We blew giant weather balloons up and watch them disappear above the clouds. Occasionally the heat generated was too extreme and the coke bottles we made it in and the bottoms would explode out of them lol. We would look at each other with wide eyes and start the experiment again haha.
It's just an HHO scam that was the most popular in 2000's.
"Don't rebuild anything you see In this video..." 2:51 " I highly recommend that you connect it as you see it in this fashion."
Exactly. Thanks for your comment.
Christina Eckels I like that it’s made mostly of trash that would otherwise end up in a landfill.
Why China don't make like this or US
@@a.freeamerican7267 PVC creates static.. bad idea.... glass does not
How often do you change plates?
This works!!! I’m so proud of you! And see your educated on this and use common since! Thanks for sharing your system!
It actually does not work. You introduce more air into the system and the fuel injectors will introduce more fuel therefore burning more fuel than normal............ Common Sense is a thing of the past my friends.
The current obd-II set up makes this challenging. Been thinking about going back to pre obd-II that's for sure. Great vid and def food for thought!
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This generates HHO which is highly flammable, if you build this you need a back flow valve. A backfire could cause an big bang, a really big bang, a really really big bang.
So big you can cause a new big bang ...😂😂😂😂
No need 😆
Yeah. But most of us are old enough not to be so stupid as to need warning labels.
His “dryer jug” is supposed to be filled with water and used as a makeshift flashback arrestor
He instaled a arrester after tank of water to avoid flashback fire.
Thank you. This is one of the easiest ways I have seen to build a HHO generator. Thank you
9v battery dropped into bottle with high dose of electrolite
I did this for years on an 76 Dodge D100 with a 318. I never could get it to run on pure hydrogen without gasoline. Gasoline requires the engine timing to be set Before Top Dead Center but pure Hydrogen explodes rather than burns so it would have to be timed After Top Dead Center. The temperature of the combustion chamber is critical too because Hydrogen will detonate as soon as the intake valve opens regardless of the spark timing if the combustion chamber is too hot. I would take a two liter plastic bottle and put the hose coming off the fuel cell in it for a minute or two then light it with a Bic lighter. It would shoot into the next subdivision. These fuel cells actually produce a lot of Hydrogen and you can make it useful.
Hydrogen isn't all that flammable, even less than propane but when you have the other byproduct (oxygen) its very explosive and helps burn the gas more efficiently.
Hydrogen has a self combustion at think at 500 degrees Celsius vs gasoline at 240s degree Celsius so I don't know about that explosion idea with the tubing.
What sort of fuel saving did you get and is there a loss or gain in power?
@@sjg3890 i can't tell you exact numbers, but you do save on fuel and it doesn't require that much power to make it work. you could easily produce the gas for free using solar power from a few good solar panels.
Do you have a video out?
Holy cannoli! KZhead should have suggested this video the very day that was up. He got me right away when he said "clean steaming the engine". At the very exact moment i think I had a "satori". The whole universe, for a very brief but illuminating moment, made sense to me: I subscribed!
He said “steam cleaning” not “clean steaming” like you said.
Perfect for when you want to make steamed hams
I have been designing something like this for a long time, mine was much much smaller and could not even maintain a flame. But I'm glad to see that someone was able to do this successfully.
It's fake dude
@UCv5yiHyJu7VvNYezbluvWQw you can't make enough power to run a car engine. Sure you can make power but micro amounts of energy... Like how they make earth batteries.
@@coloradodirtbike5930 Granted it isn't very efficient and this guy needed to mix gasoline fumes with the hydrogen for the engine to even run, but I believe that it is possible. If you have different stages of this setup than it would be possible. However, it would be much more efficient to use an electric car.
I made a micro torch with a similar setup but to even compare to fuel assist a car you'd need more engineering then that
This is not a Hydrogen fuel cell. It's a hydrogen generator. BIG difference.
This is not a hydrogen generator. its a hydroxy booster...
Thou hast summoned me from the death, just as this comment.
The truth does not have an expiration date (Y)
and that's why it doesn't work. It can't generate nearly enough hydrogen to even turn the engine on revolution. Not powerful enough, because it's as the other commenter explained. It's oxy hydrogen and there is not NEARLY enough being generated by this little setup to make a damned bit of difference. Even as a supplement to gas. It take energy to make energy and this takes more than it makes.
Bill Does Stuff YOUR COMMENTS, WE ASSUME ARE BASED UPON YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE WITH YOUR OWN VEHICLE PRESENTLY ? ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORS, COMMENTING ?
Hell yeah! Shared this with a buddy of mine. This will help him out in his endeavors. Thank you.
I knew someone who in 2018 installed this system on a 1985 Toyota LandCruiser 4x4 with the 4.5 liter inline 6 with carb. A big and really heavy vehicle. He said the avg. MPG went up from 13-14 to 21-22 mpg when it was in operation. I can confirm it really does work.
"Don't be disillusioned by how fancy it is." I love this guy!
This dude is still alive, I hope?
😂
As long as he's not trying to sell the technology, he's fine.
JustinHit. I don’t think so. Just putting this video out is enough to get a death penalty.
this man does not live long this way. you should know if you separate water into hydrogen and oxygen, he forgets what else is released!!! for example, glow and pale,
Dominique meijer. Water consists of 2 Hydrogen atoms & 1 Oxygen atom (H2O). When you separate water into it’s two parts there is nothing left.
You explained so simply and easy.. And went to talk right into the point... Thankyou very much for sharing and doing your best to help out to find real solutions for the gas problem!
HAHAHAHHAA 32+ dildo know-nothing losers
Can someone make a parts list?
@Dave Pin do you think a 2000 ford ranger computer needs to be modified?
@Dave Pin for the engine not to run too rich.
He left out a few critical statements here. Introducing more air into the vacuum line will cause fuel injectors to introduce more fuel, therefore burning way more fuel than you did before. Also without a good way to vent the gas you would most likely build up enough HHO gas under the hood to kill everyone in the truck................................If it's on the internet and someone made a extra long video about it = IT MUST BE TRUE? XD
Bravo! Amazing. Thank you. Can you please make another video showing how to connect the hydrogen cell to the combustion system of your car. I would appreciate that. This is what we need more in the world. Bravo. It was very brave of you to test this model in your car despite the potential risk of a fire hazard. I am glad and impressed by your effort - good to know that your Hydrogen cell fuel system has been performing well for 30,000 miles now.
He explained it in this video. The HHO gas line is connected to the vacuum line running to his master cylinder. That only works if you have an older Carburetor. Newer vehicles with Fuel injectors would have to do something different.
@@mordiev I have a Nissan hardbody 1995, it has a similar layout. Also it sounds like a great experiment!!
@@natanaelmartinez7620 it'd definitely be fun... just as long as you remember it could explode at any minute... he doesn't separate the hydrogen from the oxygen so the gas mix is incredibly explosive at all times... and theres live wires dangling in there with like 23 amps passing through (more than enough to spark)... he's literally powering his car by syphoning the explosive mix from a home made bomb... if it backfires the whole thing could go boom and launch glass shrapnel everywhere haha (consider installing it in a vented steel box)
@@oligould8575 that’s why you fun the gas through a ‘Bubbler’ 🙄 Cheers …
@@oligould8575 I meant RUN the gas 👀
A lot more magnetic field 😊
Finally got around to building one for my 93 gmc 5.7 with a tbi.....its freaking amazing!
Did it increase your mileage? Pls tell us about what you noticed
@@Jumjah it did increase the fuel mileage by 4 to 5 mgh and highly increased the acceleration during passing and decreased the stinky exhaust smell. Just takes a while to get the mixture right. But I recommend giving it a try if you havent. I have a TBI set up on mine.
Sweeeet man thanks for sharing that info :D
@@Jumjah no problem my friend!
@@Kris-mr7pf did you do pretty much this design or did you buy one
I come back to this video from time to time as I work on my own kit. I just now realized this years later that when he gives you the warning about this being dangerous, doing it like this is possibly a 100% chance of that happening 😂😂 I'm actually concerned if the OP is still with us all these years later. 😂 He built that like a professional home repair contractor.
Still here. With something still to offer when the time is right. Ty for the comment
@@metalpresstv haha Hell yeah! 👍
I love the use of the pickle jar just to show how easy it really is
This set up works best on older cars since todays cars computers have O2 sensors which regulate the amount of fuel/air mixture in the cylinders. there is a work around that someone came up with. If you have a gas generator this could work as long as you had enough power to generate the amount of HHO to run it.
EFIE (Electronic Fuel Injection Enhancer) The EFIE is intercepting signals from the oxygen sensor to the computer and fools the computer by giving it false exhaust readings from the Oxygen sensor.This is necessary because the computer is set up for a regular burn of fuel and compensates for the more efficient and cleaner burn by dumping more gasoline into the engine (until it gets the reading it expects) which ruins your fuel savings. Gasoline burns better (cleaner less waste) with HHO gas because the increase burn temperature . You can buy a EFIE on the internet or if you have the skills you can build one.
Theyve been using the current EFI systems with o2 sensors since halfway thru 1985.
This setup does not work on any car because it uses more power to split water molecules than you get out.
The truck in the video is using an EFI system...
An efficient electrolizer must be used EFIE device or similar must be used Ignition timing (ATDC) must be changed Even compression ratio adjustments (more) That way you will get the most out of this, otherwise expect the ussual 10% only improvement.
Great work, but I would recommend moving the connection cable further away from the jar and also isolate it properly, otherwise in case of leakage you get a nice spark triggered hho explosion from the gas forming up under the hood.
There is no tank of hydrogen. This is an on demand system it's bullshit but there is no risk of "explosion". Lol
Yeah no it's leaking, so eventually a reservoir could build up under the hood.
This calls for tunnel ram 🌬
Where's yours?
The danger lies with the hydrogen and oxygen being in the same jar in the first place. Two jars connected by a water hose at the bottom, the anode in one jar and cathode in the other. Gases are collected seperately and mixed in the carburettor to keep chances of unwanted explosions or fire restricted to a smaller volume and location.
Thank you so much for posting this and clear explanation. Have watched a few, but your video is somehow clearest. Vehicle off road because would not pass smog.. three years ago. Love it and bought it right before my daughter was born.. she keeps asking when we get to ride in it again. So excited to see this video and hoping to implement your instructions, as soon as possible, for a 93’ 300 ce Benz. Have some mechanical and electrical knowledge ..might have to work on this at 5 am!.. but I think it will be so very worth it. Very Grateful! Be Well
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@@metalpresstv TG the back ground music isn't this crap of today 👍. Lynyrd Skynyrd that smell
I would love to someone to build one of this for me give me directly like
Did it work???
Excellent! Thank you for the video. I've had so many ideas, but lack the electrical knowledge on how to do it. Hope you inspire others to try things too.
If you understand the physics and the chemistry involved here, electricity should not be hard to get your head around... At the simplest level, it's like plumbing. Study up, and follow safety rules.
You should learn thermodynamics first so you understand why this video is fake and this would never work and save yourself the trouble and making it.
I really appreciate your videos and what you try to do for us all out here! Great stuff!
got a dual cell in my truck now. very simple instructions. thank you guys. epic win .
i want to do this .
How was it?
You should update everyone on how that truck is now probably in the scrap yard and you've gone through batteries and alternators like crazy
@@jimmio3727 actually loaned it to a friend and he promptly ran it into a tree.
I looked up how to make hydrogen and it was going on about the power needed to and I was like using batteries that is cool but an alternator could put 12v and quite a bit of amps and then I found this guy who confirmed what i was thinking this Is awesome man sweet
I did a very similar thing on my 150cc scooter. It gave me a measured increase of 50% in fuel mileage. We made a larger one for my father in law's dodge slant 6. Increased the power of that old worn out motor almost 3 fold. Where it would barely pull the van uphill, it pulled strong!
Wow, if only you could reproduce these results in actual tests you'd be a billionaire. Shame you're a liar.
Bullshit.
What was the dodge mpg like
@@stn7172 I have no idea gauge was broken
"This is vary fancy" proceeds to show you the bottom of a lid of a pickle jar 😂
Really lol 😆 🤣
Mom's pissed
@@Brittvanegas no I'm not
Maybe so, but you didn't make one yourself i bet! Go back to your mommys basement and get online...hurry hurry!
@@gunguyforlife630 🤦👆 this guy.😂
Love it thank you we will have to try it out.
I hope it's like an hour long movie at this point not ,a video you're gonna be posting but a movie documentary type style because I've been waiting for years and you're well spoken. So watching it won't be a boring, anyhow we can't wait to watch
You could reduce the amperage draw by using plates with a smaller surface area for those with a lower output alternator.
Electrolyte:water ratio can also lower amperage.
Use a potentiometer 100 Watts 200 Ohms or something close. The electricity for elektrolyses must be dc so you use the battery to start. When your engine is running use a transformer from your alternator to 3.5 Volts. ( 10 Amps * 3.5 Volts is 35 Watts ) and put an AC-DC converter on the secundaire side. On the DC side you put the potentiometer. The hydrogen contains 3 times more energy than liquid petrol gas. Use original lpg tubes to your engine.
@@marcelmolenaar5684 not sure what you're saying but it doesn't have to be DC for mixed gas, only if your separating the O and H.
you will get more amps with a stainless egg beater and steel wool
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A friend of mine used a setup that used 3 equal parts hydrogen peroxide (industrial solution), rubbing alcohol (90% i think), and water he said it was like 1 drip every 3 seconds and it took him 3-4 engines to get right (kept melting them) but his little monza was getting almost 80mpg. If you wanna play with this set up all I can say is monitor your temp closely. He had 40+ vehicles he could pick for parts. But enjoy
@@randall1959 yeah all these people claim "to know a guy" lol
The thing is that it's never verified. Video or it didn't happen.
@@randall1959 It being verified or not doesn't matter. Just think about the amount of peroxide and alcohol that setup would consume. At that point its just part of the fuel. Getting "80mpg" doesn't matter if you are consuming a gallon of whatever chemicals along with that gallon of gas. Especially when those chemicals are a lot more expensive than gas is. Even if the story is true, its just a neat thing someone did with an engine that isn't useful for anything.
100% false. A little common sense and u know this isn't true.
@@lobsterbarkOne drop every three seconds or 20 drops per minute. 20 drops per minute are equal to 1 ml or 60 ml per hour which is roughly 0.25 of one cup. So he definitely wouldn’t be burning gallon for gallon of this mix and gasoline. Hydrogen peroxide alcohol and water have all been used in engines with injection. Alcohol increases the octane while water helps cool the engine. Adding hydrogen peroxide would probably result in a more efficient burn as it breaks down into oxygen and water. So this mix may increase horsepower and mpg some but I doubt it would lead to an increase like he is claiming unless the car was already getting a ridiculous 75mpg lol. I also highly doubt his buddy burnt his engines out. There have been a lot of inexperienced people doing injection with water for the first time and hydro locking their engines my guess is that’s what happened to his.
Best easiest to understand hook up to car. Hands down
For everyone saying why not use modern sensors for safety, those sensors only communicate and work under very particular variables. To implement a Purge Solenoid would require fuel mapping and a host of impedance issues for sure. Would be very difficult to solve. For example. Put a MAF from a toyota into a chevy and it will never run right. I believe this video shows the fundamental basics needed, but when open to speculation on safety it will take some time to solve. Very interesting concept with the "Steam Clean" statement. I'm sure it works wonders for carbon build up. Thank you for the video, friend.
won't the steam (water) corrode the engine instead of just cleaning it?
@@duhovnagozba1770 You're not thinking about this correctly.
@@narutofanz4 can you explain how I'm wrong - why won't it corrode?
We're using solid copper wire, not stranded. Copper skins itself over and protects itself. As far as the plates go it's extremely high grade stainless non magnetic. It will last a very very long time. We have a new video coming out soon so be sure and subscribe. Thanks for the comment.
@@duhovnagozba1770 because rust needs oxygen, most of the o2 explodes in the cylinder anyways and out the exhaust
My boy literally copied this over to his mustang! About 13 years ago tho..Love that I stumbled on the video!!
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@@metalpresstv 👍🍻
“Dont be dissalusioned how fancy this looks”. Ok chief.
😂😂😂
cbmbdb If I had such a setup under my hood I’d show it to everyone! Then I’d tell them that I hardly ever have to buy gas! That way I’d look smart and they’d be jealous.
I ....I can't tell if you understood that he was joking
@@FrankGutowski-ls8jt lier
randell gribben You mean liar, I assume.
one more compliment; very nice, easy listening voice Bro. takes hat off
This kinda thing seems simple, but it takes one hell of an engineer to make it actually work good.
I bought 20 Pickle Jars for my house and now I Disconnected my utility power. Works great, but the house smells of pickles.
You can make hydrogen throughout hight sound frequency. The water molecules start moving very fast because we hit it and forced to collide each other, with that way we reduce electricity consumption and increase efficiency
I have seen and heard a lot of that over the years. I do know that pulsing can be more efficient as it allows time for the bubbles to get out of the way of the plates. I have yet to see anyone produce the Ferocious bubbling that can be achieved running the Cell at 100 amps. If they can do that with pulsing frequencies at say 5 or 10 amps I would be totally impressed. Thanks for the comment.
Any idea of what frequency, or frequencies?
@@TheHeartCharmer you need to use the 11th harmonic (2 frequencies, 1 at11x the other0, than with a sine wave generator(2) find the resonant frequency of a water molecule. This will produce hydrogen at a milliamp electrical load,. Separate the anode and cathodes as each will produce the gasses separately.(safety). A membrane installed in jar can produce electricity from the reassociation of the unused gas to water.
@@ranmanification Ok. Thanks for saying. Wish I had more time to experiment. Have you successfully achieved this yourself, may I ask out of interest?
How this is still on KZhead after 10 years lol
Back in the day, I didn't believe it, but some classmates in college bought an HHO device that supplemented the fuel in the car, and it did work. This is not perpetual energy. It wouldn't run without real fuel. Think they only saw a 20% jump in fuel efficiency ...still not bad though.
Oh wow! You broke the laws of thermodynamics! What a genius. I hope you have alerted CERN and NASA.
Not sure why you would think that. We are just burning all of the fuel in the cylinder instead of the catalytic converter. The boost comes from normally wasted gasoline. Thanks for the comment.
Dude this is pretty sick 👍
I've been working with hydrogen generators for about 7 years and there are some issues I can see here. The video makes no mention of how to "trick" the o2 sensor into thinking everything is normal with the increase in oxygen from the hydrogen production. If you don't install an o2 manipulator or somehow fake out the o2 sensor, your generator will be useless. Your engine will adjust your gas consumption accordingly once it detects the increased oxygen. Second, having wires go through the sharp holes on the metal lid will eventually cause a short and your hydrogen generator will go BOOM. Third, the increased h2o, which is a by-product of hydrogen generation, will quickly corrode your exhaust system. I mean quickly corrode. The money you will spend on exhaust repairs will outweigh the savings on gas. I installed mine on my Cadillac, which by the way, happens to have a stainless steel exhaust system. My car went from 28mpg to just over 40mpg, but ONLY after I installed an o2 manipulator I purchased online.
An o2 manipulator is corrosion friendly?
Where does this O2 manipulator go, does it replace the O2 sensor in the exhaust? Thanks.
Carbureted man come on. Not mpi no obd2.
Most people that do this, from what I've seen, tend to put the hydrogen input past the O2 sensor. As far as I've seen in newer vehicles most O2 sensors are halfway up the intake, so there's plenty of room to add in a hose and reseal.
I think your talking about the maf sensor the 02 sensor screws on the manifold there is a 02 manipulater sensor you can buy that looks the same that you screw in there and trick it to make the car run rich or lean and this makes since cause if you don't manipulate the 02 sensor it will tell the motor to push more gas if you manipulate it then it should compensate for the hydrogen.
Ingenuity at its finest great informative video may the truth always prevail
What the heck cool ride I have the same one. Thinking about doing this for my 2.4 Tacoma to get EVEN better gas millage
I had a Coachman President 33 that had a 454 engine. It was a 1984. When I got it in 2003, about, the guy before me only got 7 miles to a gallon with it. After I got done putting six hydrolyzers on it I was able to get 12 MPG.
286 kJ/mol is required to electrolyze the water. 241 kJ/mol is released when HHO is burned. This would only make sense if you were running the electrolyzer on its own battery bank that you charged at home. But then you'd have the added weight of more batteries forcing more work on the engine anyway.
The engine is getting power mainly from gas. He’s just adding hydrogen and oxygen to the air intake to get more fuel. So the alternator is producing some fuel essentially
@@bryanoverbey Yeah, but the alternator is spun by the engine. Put more load on the alternator and more fuel is required to run the engine.
@@nicks2437 Yes that is true, but when the car's battery is fully charged the alternator is still spinning with the potential to generate energy. So you are getting parasitic energy loss from turning the alternator anyway. Say that turns out to be 40 Watts of energy to spin the alternator and not generate any energy. Then if you now add this HHO system, you may draw 200 watts to run it, but gain 180 watts from burning it. You no longer have parasitic alternator usage, so you're only burning 20 watts to spin the alternator instead of 40. These are made up numbers, and although I have a B.S. in physics I'm not sure my idea is accurate, but I'd like to find out more..
@@bryanoverbey While that may be true of alternators from decades past that used permanent magnets, modern alternators are designed with electromagnets so that the output can be varied to meet demand. So parasitic loss isn't really a thing anymore. And even if the battery is full the alternator is still powering all your vehicles electrical components. Realistically, if this system was viable for fuel savings then vehicle manufacturers would have incorporated it a long time ago and charged consumers through the nose for it. >"Yeah, it costs an extra $3000 up front but you get that back within 10 years on the fuel savings. And don't forget to only run Ford branded electrolyte to maintain your warranty!"
@@nicks2437 More weight of batteries is harder on the engine? He doesn't need to run a 1,500 cell module battery bud. Lmao!!! The extra weight at MOST needed would be a 12-24 volt series system. Like in a semi truck/tractor-trailer. That would be about 20-30 extra Lbs. Equal to his spare tire and jack. LoL!! Edit: I should also add that I spent 20+ years engineering internal combustion components. I grew up as a heavy duty mechanic. You can get a high output alternator that would deal with the 29 amp draw. 29 amps is not a lot of a draw. It's equal to the A/C compressor at full draw. Do you know the stress of a fully engaged compressor on a motor running? 0.02-3% power loss. And I need to address your alternator tech talk. *NOW ADAYS* alternators are elctro-magnetic? The have been elctro-magnetic for over 80 years. Ever since passenger vehicles switched to 12v from 6v. PS - "If this was a viable and efficient method then it would be manufactured"??? 😑 Were you alive for the Saturn EV1 fiasco? When GM was forced to repossess all of them from people who bought them and drove them? The fuel companies were outraged. How about biodiesel. One of the greatest fuel systems in the world. It is illegal to convert and no manufacturer makes them. They would lose a ton of money. Canola oil internal combustion engines are another issue. A lot of engineers are being monitored just for showing people their designs of canola oil run planes, cars and commercial equipment. The only reason the fuel corporations are all onboard with electric and hybrid is because they started buying up lithium and cobalt mines and operations around the world. So now they make a ton of money even if they DO lose on petroleum fuel sales.
I love hillbilly engineering!
Frank Gutowski nascar was once powered by booze
Alexander Weinhart This is a good time and $ waster for science illiterates.
Browns gas... a patent for a gas that could potentiatly run a combustion engine.. 80 year old patent. go fig scienctist's knew about this long ago. his version might be "hillbilly" but the one on my car is from a profession distruber of... drycells (electolysis units for hydrogen output)
@@harleyme3163 Lol. Read all about it here under the heading Fringe Science. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen
Awesome video. I subbed and look forward greatly for the next one. I have a simple question and im certain is was answered but how much MPG did this add? Also have you ever combined this setup with hypermiling technics?
not that bright are you? this video is 12 years old. theres no update cuz it was a joke then and still is.
Bruh
@@Z-e-r-0 aint no joke, this stuff does work
Explosive gas and glass jars. Brilliant.
Actually because the system is in a vacuum it is pretty safe. You cannot use metal and you cannot use plastic because it will distort under the high vacuum and high temperature. We have a new video coming out that will show a much safer application in the cell. The glass jar still remains a key component because of the thermal properties. Thanks very much for the comment be sure and subscribe.
Stanley Meyers first brought this Tech to the world, they killed him to suppress it.
This is the modern equivalent of the first person to light their fart
@@oneplaneteer1708 I assume you’ve installed one on your vehicle and gotten terrible results?
@@oneplaneteer1708 methane
@@Willyd2758 Hey, I'd like to introduce you to my friend the law of conservation of energy. Just because someone adamantly believes they are doing something special doesn't mean they are. That's how we got Jesus.
@@oneplaneteer1708 I’m sure you’ve built an HHO generator that works properly? If not, go sit on the porch.
Amazing? Probably the best explained, simple, how to video, I've ever seen.
Awesome job brother.
Law of conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed - only converted from one form of energy to another. This means that a system always has the same amount of energy, unless it's added from the outside. In other words the energy that powers the cell comes from the battery which pulls off the alternator which pulls off the motor. Which also means no added gas mileage and means the same gas mileage as not even having the cell hooked up.
Actually this system in no way interferes with the law of the conservation of energy. The engine itself is only burning about 80% of the fuel the rest is consumed by the catalytic converter. What we are doing is burning all of the fuel in the cylinder instead of the emission system. All gains come from the gasoline.
@@metalpresstv Then it would burn more gas because the load on the alternator which powers the the battery that the cells uses. The only way this setup would actually work is by creating the energy from another source not using the battery or alternator.
@@suoppsdn9751 20% more gasoline is a lot of energy. I understand you need to back the powers that be and stand with all the forces of science. I would like to point out that if you think these interesting little crafts that have been shown to you by your government that are flying around are powered by lithium batteries you're sadly mistaken. There's more to science than what they teach you in school and college. We have a new video coming out soon so be sure and subscribe thanks for all the comments my friend.
gracias amigo:....The world needs more people like you God bless
I hope that you installed a spark arrestor, just in case of a backfire. I used a small piece of pvc tube about 6" long, small diameter. I filled it with copper wool and capped both ends. Each end has a fitting and the unit is installed inline to the vac source.
wouldnt filling the other jar with plain water prevent this?
Kickass video man. Nice.
I'm bricked up!!! I love this and I will definitely be doing it!
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Unbelievable man, bravo
Meth is a hell of a drug
Awesome bro. Thank you.
Glad to know I'm not the only one aware of how abundant this element is.
Yes, hydrogen is very abundant; it's in water and there is plenty of water available. But water is just another name for burnt hydrogen and if you want to use the hydrogen in water to power a car or anything else for that matter, the first thing you have to do is 'unburn' the hydrogen. Unfortunately, it takes the same amount of energy to do that as you get back when you later burn the hydrogen again.
I come back and watch this from time to time
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@@metalpresstvdid you ever finish recording that next video?
@@vinm8297 It's been in production for over a year and will be released as soon as we finish the last segment. We have installed the system on a 454 stroker but we had to get to 454 stroker in line, before we install it and that took a very long time. Divorced choke, non- electronic system, EMP proof, stuff like that and timing problems were quite difficult getting it lined out. Thanks for your patience and keep checking back.
@@metalpresstv awesome, can’t wait to see it!
If one were to build this to sell, I'd say incorporate an EVAP purge solenoid in the engine vacuum line. Run that solenoid off a relay, that let's you have low amp switch on the interior panel of your choice. That isolates the hydrogen generator from the intake... to some extent.
Whats the technicals behind this? Why are so many people saying it doesn't work.? You sound like you know what you're talking about. Is there anyway we can chat?
@@YNYNYNYNYNYN in theory it works. It absolutely produces hydrogen. If its hooked up correctly and monitored by scan tool data, that is the most definitive proof of if it works or not. I'd say as a base run, get on flowing highway, maintain 55-60, engage generator and figure a way to pulse width modulate the ground for the new "purge" solenoid you would add. If the fuel trim numbers aren't going negative, there's too much O2 in the exhaust so the car will just add the same fuel. I would need this all played out to condemn it. Theres the efficiency of the total thing at play as well. Someone posted some number like it takes 238 joules to produce 200 joules worth of hydrogen. I'm not calling that fact, but infinite momentum/energy has yet to be released to the general public. If I had time and money to donate to this science experiment, I would. I've produced hydrogen off a cell just like this. The yield is small even up to 10 amps. I think the answer to volumetric efficiency of this would be to increase the plates size and numbers. More surface area to ionize= more hydrogen/more efficiently using the size of the jar/generator
@@YNYNYNYNYNYN part 2! Your car monitors needed fuel by a calculation of load by,rpm,air temp, coolant temp, manifold pressure, barometric pressure, grams per second of air flowing past the mass air flow sensor, voltage from the throttle position sensor and in closed loop it looks at the oxygen sensor. Closed loop is hot engine, hot cats, hot oxygen sensors. Oxygen sensors produce voltage based on oxygen content in the exhaust. If oxygen becomes more prevalent by adding hydrogen+ its oxygen by product, car adds gasoline to reach a stoichiometric mixture. The car has no logic programmed for the primate trying to circumvent the fuel source.
@@YNYNYNYNYNYN id also not discount the people who have actually built this and claim to buy less gas. Vs keyboard warriors who looked a bunch of stuff up on Google and just don't agree its doing anything, so iTs StOoPiD
Thanks man. I'm going to speak with my mechanic mate and ask him to translate this for me in a much simplified way i appreciate your information. I really want to do this.
good job my friend!
Water/alcohol water injection systems actually work, they were used on many American fighter planes of WWII and they provided a 20%+ boost when activated for emergency situations. But the original system required a tank, some plumbing and a pump to inject the mixture into your engine. This looks a little sketchy, but it probably works on a limited basis. There are systems sold for this purpose, my father in law used a Speer system on his R/V and it provided a boost in economy and performance. But kudos for your efforts in making this system.
This is definitely a different approach from that. I myself owned an Edelbrock water injector. It is pretty amazing they quit making all of that. We have a new video coming out on this topic very soon so be sure and subscribe. Thank you very much for the comment.
My father in law had one on his big motorhome in the 1970s or so. It was made by Speer and ran on manifold vacuum. He was able to advance the timing a couple degrees and got better performance and gas mileage, too...@@metalpresstv
Gotta love the craftsmanship
"Under Certain Circumstances" ~ Like rolling downhill. . . . .My brother in law saw this video and made this set up, we couldn't measure any difference in fuel economy what so ever!
It must take energy to break the water into hydrogen and oxygen. This energy is coming from the alternator. I think the alternator doing its thing as a generator with a load on it, supplying electricity to make the hydrogen, is in turn putting more load on the engine because you don't get something for nothing. This increases the gas mileage but some of the energy to move the car is coming from the burning hydrogen and the system ends up breaking even or possibly worse than using the gasoline alone.
You need too get a kit { I got it on Ebay } to hook to the O2 sensor to tell the computer it is dumping way too much fuel into the system I was getting 55 mpg in a 87 Dodge grand caravan with a set up of a HHO generator The gas burns clean without the regulator you will burn MORE GAS Im babysitting my grandson so I can not look in my shop what that O2 regulator is called ON NEWER cars they changed the O2 sensors to where you can not trick them with a battery current to make it cut back the fuel flow to run these set ups
That's why I said it doesn't work.
Hence the explanation from Jon.
www.defensenews.com/land/2017/04/03/hydrogen-fuel-cell-technology-could-bring-stealth-to-army-vehicles/
I'd love to see a before and after dyno pull to see any fluctuations is output
I’m guessing it’s about 1/100th horse power minus the drag on the on the alternator. When the wires going into the glass jar “HYDROGEN FUEL CELL” haha he will blow the shit out of the engine bay.
@@adriantaylor9535 12V at 30A is 0.36KW, about 0.5hp. Never gonna get those back from his "fuel cell"
No one said anything about more horspower. He said more miles.
@@sondresrbraten205 You are taking away power(hp) from the engine to produce hydrogen and you gotta give those back and plus some extra to increase the efficiency and get more miles. But you use more than give back and thats why this can't work. So yeah, it is about horsepower.
@@Stripcherry3 yeah i know this won't work. My point was only that he never said that the engine would get more power. 👍
Descrimer tells you not to build it but he goes into great detail to tell you exactly how to build it
Your a genuine genius
Nice set up, I would just add running 30 amps through your firewall is a bit ballsy, go the extra mile and just buy a relay, then you dont need such a heavy switch in the cab. A small half amp rocker would do you nice on a 30 amp DC relay to power it all.
Please explain.
You should use a 5 pin relay connected to the Alternator charge light to Automatically activate your hydrogen system when the engine is running.
And the alternative fuel is vacuumed into the engine? I don't think that vacuum is connected to the fuel injectors. So how does the hydrogen fuel get into the fuel system?
@@MrLgmurphysr It does not need to be connected to the injectors. when the engine is pulling in air it can pull alternative fuels also through the air intake.
Dude idk your name or who you are but you. You are my hero. The only thing i want in life is to have one of these made for my subaru. God bless you dude
I met a security guard who did this to his 2001 BMW 740i. Took him 3 months. It drove just like any other car. You have never knew it was running a hydrogen hybrid system.
Good stuff. My son and I have experimented with hydrogen generation ever since the Geet stuff surfaced. Too bad the comment section is loaded with punks that can only sit behind their computers hating, contributing nothing to the real world. We will try this out and report back to ya.
exactly good thing not everyone is the same or nothing would have never been invented
hey how is it going , got it to work ?
such a wonderful idea, glad someone actualy put it into use
smart ppl no need to build all this crap in order to understand that it WONT NEVER WORK if you convert the energy 3 times. splitting water in HHO it takes more energy than you receive so for instance you have to recharge your battery every few minutes that makes you vehicle electric not water powered Of course how many ppl here actually went to school and knows the basic of physics????
self healing bruh, it's called dioelectromagnetism. And it not just put pumping energy into something, it's gracefully energetically matching it's frequency and making it heat. An example of induction heating using electromagnetic fields, not just shocking shit.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. You explained it so well . I will definitely try this. Thanks again.
Keep it safe...try at own risk...ty
So it's four years later...how did it go?
We regret to inform you that Moonrider1968 is currently in orbit around the moon due to his gasoline experiment's explosion. If only he had known that hydrogen doesn't explode, it implodes and actually cancels out the explosive pressure of gasoline and reduces gasoline efficiency:(
Bro you are a Bada$$ blessed by the Metal Gods
I like that you plugged it to the alternator so it isn’t running when the engine isn’t turning
It is actually still connected directly to the battery. A lot of modifications happened over the years. We've been very cautious about posting updates on this topic. HHO is misunderstood because there are two types of injection. Injecting into the carburetor in an atmospheric environment is quite useless. We found this out but continued on and eventually went to a vacuum system. For some reason the vacuum is key to the thermal properties and the performance of the unit. We have a new video coming out which will do it's very best to explain everything. We have taken a lot of time to get this right because frankly it's probably the last opportunity we're going to get. Please subscribe so you don't miss it. I don't waste people's time with a bunch of videos that just go on and on for views. The Next video will be the last video on this subject and hopefully will be able to put a nail in the coffin people thinking this technology does not function. It will not work on every single vehicle out there because frankly there's just so many. Thank you very much for the comment and I greatly appreciate your support. 😁
I'm not going to get real technical but the vacuum line you are using is at the back of the manifold so your back cylinders will get more HHO than the front, see if you get better results by introducing the HHO under the Throttle body so HHO is more evenly distributed to the cylinders.
Like a nitrous port.
Mt Olive pickles are so delicious.. what was this video about ?In my state they will take you to jail for manufacturing meth with this setup.😁
Very helpful thank you!
Great video. I would use a plastic lid and a non-breakable plastic jug. If the lid is metal, I would pass the wire through rubber grommets to prevent vibration wearing through the wire insulation and conducting to the lid - if over time both wires wore through the lid, a tiny spark could explode the hydrogen with any air in the jar.
You don’t think it will melt?
The plastic jug and lid that is
@@VinelandVinny Good point on the plastic melting. I would try a plastic jar and lid filled with water - no electric flow - and see if it can hold up to the heat. I did say if you use a metal lid to use rubber grommets for the wires for the best protection from shorting. If you could also line the inner walls of a metal jar that would be best, but glass to me looks like an accident waiting to happen - as is this whole project because Hydrogen is involved.
The bad thing about plastic is it might be able to handle the heat but when you combine vacuum and heat it's pretty hopeless. Just my two cents. It video coming soon, thanks guys.
@@metalpresstv I hear ya! I am now thinking a metal lid with rubber grommets for the wires, and a metal jar with some kind of insulation inside just incase the electrodes inside get jarred (no pun intended) around. Glass is just too fragile for my nerves.
From watching videos it seems that all you need to do is put in some jars into a car and it works!! but ... Questions that are never address in any video so far are: 1: How to run a car totally on HHO - this seems to be only an amp spec 20-30amps is enough? 2: Can you start the engine without vacuum? 3: How to re adjust for timing? the car won't magically adjust when you add HHO? 4: disconnecting fuel pumps! Do you need to install a switch for HHO production and for the fuel pump? it looks easy to create the cells but focusing on installation and requirements would be cool :) great video thanks for the easiest and most helpful so far.
Running a car completely off of HHO would be awesome, but it would require a battery charge possibly weekly maybe monthly, because even though a car has a alternator or other source of charging the battery in the car, it can never be 100% efficient. Thats my thoughts on it!
Myles MacMillan you could put solar panels! :)
yeah but not the old crappy solar tech ... the new "unreleased tech"
That's actually a great idea, solar, didn't think of that one!
Dual Alternator.
I can tell you from real world experience, that this works. I actually used 6, 1 quart jars, daisy chained all the electric and hoses. Connected main vacuum to breather cover. Mine was probably more crude of a design. I used normal metal coils. 2 in each jar, having a pvc pipe for seperation. I did this for 3 months. 5 years ago. On a 1984 Chevy Truck. 1/2 ton single cab. Went from avg of 14 mpg to 17 mpg. No other changes made. Not even an oil change. So take that, naysayers.
@@lracegroeg7990 $$ and that vehicle was "lost" by my ex wife
Keep a spare alternator in the trunk lolololololol
Did you forget about the second law of thermodynamics? These fake stories are getting out of hand, people dont know shit electrodynamics or physics.
@@zo0ot404 sir, my story is definitely not fake
@@jasonrist6582 Just idling your engine is over a 600 rpms. Driving a 2.5 liter 4cly motor is about 150 cubic inches. That's 37.5 cubic inches per a cylinder. A cylinder fires ever 2 full rotations. So in a minute of idling at 600 rpms your engine will use 11,250 cubic inches of air a minute at just idle. That's a 187.5 cubic inches a second of air. You're not producing even 2 cubic inches a second. But don't forget that it's h2O 2 parts hydrogen 1 part oxygen. So 1/3 of the gas isn't even hydrogen it's oxygen. So not even 1% of the air being taken into the cylinder is hydrogen. The only thing being accomplished here is the alternator is working harder for the high amp draw dragging the motor down more reducing fuel mileage. This is why water isn't used as fuel in a motor vehicle. Now don't forget we don't drive at 600 RPMs most people will be around 1800 rpms at cruising speed. That's 3x the amount of air with still the same hydrogen production. So now ur way below the threshold of .03% hydrogen in the cylinder. Using a spark arrestor on the output hose to keep from blowing the jar up you would be hard pressed to even candle a flame let alone put anything measurable in every cylinder 900x a minute cruising down the highway at the speed limit. Why be a liar. This is why we don't use water as fuel... Takes way more energy to make it then it produces. This is why in Iceland we use compressed hydrogen from a fueling station. You can't make the volume on the fly and if u could the energy I took to make it wouldn't be returned so you wouldn't be going far. You should delete ur fake story just makes u look bad to any semi intelligent person
There have been so many test on this that have proven that it doesn't help and may hurt fuel economy. You see, as you draw more power from your alternator it creates more resistance, using more power.
Let me break it down for you. When this technology first started we squirting it into the intake of the engine. This did not work and we proved this and moved on to something else. We started injecting into vacuum and began seeing great results. However, the videos we made in the very beginning showing us injecting it into the intake spurred interest and many people repeating those events and claiming that they had results for one reason or another. We tried every method you can imagine but the only thing that ever yielded any results was the vacuum pressure design. When you inject into the system in the state of vacuum, you do not get the dilution that occurs when you inject into the intake of the manifold. You can easily tell this is working because the catalytic converter temperature drops tremendously and a lot of water begins coming out of the exhaust because of the gasoline byproducts. We have a new video coming out so be sure to subscribe so you can learn a lot more about this topic. Please understand, the videos that you watch that show no results are always not taking place using a vacuum system. It is a completely different approach to the entire process and it is the reason there has been so much confusion. We will clarify this in our next video that will be coming out when the timing is right. If you don't subscribe you might miss it so please do so. Thank you very much for your comment.
I was thinking about doing this but I have a newer truck and didnt want to cook the engine. Good to see others have done this. I was worried trying to burn browns gas instead of separating the two might make for a large explosion.
Just idling your engine is over a 600 rpms. Driving a 2.5 liter 4cly motor is about 150 cubic inches. That's 37.5 cubic inches per a cylinder. A cylinder fires ever 2 full rotations. So in a minute of idling at 600 rpms your engine will use 11,250 cubic inches of air a minute at just idle. That's a 187.5 cubic inches a second of air. You're not producing even 2 cubic inches a second. But don't forget that it's h2O 2 parts hydrogen 1 part oxygen. So 1/3 of the gas isn't even hydrogen it's oxygen. So not even 1% of the air being taken into the cylinder is hydrogen. The only thing being accomplished here is the alternator is working harder for the high amp draw dragging the motor down more reducing fuel mileage. This is why water isn't used as fuel in a motor vehicle. Now don't forget we don't drive at 600 RPMs most people will be around 1800 rpms at cruising speed. That's 3x the amount of air with still the same hydrogen production. So now ur way below the threshold of .03% hydrogen in the cylinder. Using a spark arrestor on the output hose to keep from blowing the jar up you would be hard pressed to even candle a flame let alone put anything measurable in every cylinder 900x a minute cruising down the highway at the speed limit.
@@magicalphones guy I dont think your calculating the fact that browns gas is much more explosive than fuel and your not running on just browns gas its in conjunction with fuel just for the boost in fuel mileage.(your misdirection with the consumption of an engine without actually discussing the actual science other than to say "you can't separate H2O without lots of power" that part has already been proven wrong) no one is saying you could actually run the vehicle on just the browns gas. I still dont see what your problem is with this . As a science experiment producing browns gas with a small amount of electricity IS possible so the only next step is adding it to the intake of an engine along with the fuel running that engine. Modern engines map the fuel input so they would automatically lean back on fuel with the increased combustion from the added browns gas. however if you wanted to vent the O and burn only H you could by splitting the two poles in your tank and using a shroud around the negative poll and just burning that but you need two electrode shrouds. so it adds complexity and greatly decreases your output due to the separation of the electrodes. When people so adamantly deny the simple science of things like this it leads most people to assume you work for a car and or oil producer and are just throwing out numbers to obscure the fact that this actually does work. Therefore reinforcing the fact that this works , even if only in some small way.
@@magicalphones Well I guess I missed the part in science class where if you have less than 4% of a highly unstable concentrate it wont burn . Yea CLEARLY IM the one who failed science. moron.
Ahh yes just enough hho gas being generated in this *exothermic* reaction to cool the water.
Pretty sure water to 2H+O is highly endothermic😅
@@josephvinson7348 Have you access to Google?
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Works great on a 6.0 turbo diesel because the turbo sucks it in as it needs it. Hook it up to the ccv intake inlet.
seeing this, makes proud to be an American.
I have a craving for pickles now.