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As top gear once said. "You can go faster sat at home on a sofa, than you can in a race car".
Ya that is so true
I dont get it
@@bennibilasala5236 on top gear Jeremy Clarkson tried to drive around Laguna seca (I think that's how you spell it) faster than someone did on gran turismo. In a honda nsx(I think). Same car same track. He failed aswell. You cant go as fast in real life.
@@paultoddington2755 couldn't remember if it was Jeremy or someone else on playstation. Good memory.
Bumps you dont feel. Straights that aren't straight. Then the car. Car wouldn't handle or break the same way. Too many variables in real life. The guy on here beat F1 drivers. But bet he couldn't even do a 2.10min lap.
I mean if he's a sim racer, surely he could have just chose a 182 as well? Also be funny to see him actually try it irl, seemed a big smug for a bloke who sat in a room racing with no consequences of crashing like Alex had.
My thoughts exactly let him drive the 182 lol let’s see what time he gets then
Yeah it's a lot easier when you're Don't have to worry about the threat of crashing.
Yeah he was acting like he eas better than everyone else in the video i really didnt like him
@@Adventureswithmike1 yep there’s a huge mental wall when it comes to things like how late you can brake and there are so many factors like the car not being perfect in person with the tires and brakes
yeah seems super weird to not compare apples to apples, I guess there wasn't a 182 in the game? A GT86 seems a weird second best though, RWD not front FWD and with substantially more power. A much more interesting comparison would have been Alex in the sim and the Sim driver in the Clio IRL, but the sim guy seemed pretty put out just being at the track so I very much doubt he would have gloved up and potentially have lost by quite a wide margin.
The weather may have been wet, but at least that gamers personality was dry as f*ck
what personality?^^
@@South4153 Got em'
Shorts on to stay cool and a jacket to keep warm 😂 that boy seems confused.
@@scotthotchkiss7120 Dontchyu know eeees loco?
They should have sent him around the course in the Reneault.
The think the simulation is unrealistically fast, there were parts the sim was flooring it in third, virtually going straight over grass verges to cut the small corners Alex in real life couldn't do this, he'd catch the first patch of grass with one side and spin out or tail slap after correcting More physics need to be involved in the game, Alex's time, in a near 16 year old car not built for a track, was phenomenal
You're correct. And that's because they picked the shitiest "simcade" out there. If he did this even in Project Cars 2 he would be spinning out of control.
If they choice Assetto it will be more realistic than this piece of shit
Project Cars 3 is not a very realistic sim racing game. The sim racer had a better car, much more practice and sat comfortably in his home. His lap time wasn't very good, all things considered.
@@CheeseFarts project cars 2 would also have been better than project cars 3
@@lynpendry Even PC2 have superior tire physic and is much faster than AC or GT sport
Sim driver dude looks like someone made him be there against his will
Logitech lol
Because he's playing PCARS 3
He playing Project Cars want to act like playing actual simulator 😆😆 what u expect ... this is horrible challange.
@@Kappo288 fr lmao
@@Kappo288 yea exactly i was atleast hoping for corsa
That gaming dude had sooooo much personality, it was oozing out of his ego holes.
hahaha, no hate (even though I'm kinda hating) he was on a fucking video game, obviously he was going to be quicker if the "pro" driver was put in the Clio id bet that Alex would win, he gave it everything.
reminds me of the IT guy in The Office :D "Oi - no professionals!"
@@kristian5821 as an ex sim racer, rain doesn't affect the game
@@jesse6779 Pcars is the worst game they couldve done a benchmark on lmao
@@CW-yp9jo expected corsa tbh
Didn’t realise how talented a racer Alex is. The last lap montage, those corners boy. Smashed it with the video chaps
That sim driver seemed like such a tool. It's easy to be smug, when you drive a simulated game, in a rwd car with about 20hp more and no consequences to worry about. In real life, i'm damn sure Alex would win by a mile!
Issue is that the "sim driver" played an arcade game, not a sim.
he seemed a bit of a boring twat
Oh and on top of that the cars are performing at their optimum. Well that can’t be said about a 2000 bucks used car right?
Not to mention playing fucking project cars 3
@@jesseyoung9013 I was wondering why everyone was upset about project cars until I saw it was 3, not the 2 I'm used to which is a decent sim. but yeah that "sim driver" was a real prick
Spoilers below . . . . . . Who'd have thought a more powerful car, driven by a professional sim racer, would be faster than a 16 year old Renault bought off Gumtree for £2000 with tired brakes, an exhaust leak and ditchfinders on the rears. edit: and got within a few seconds! It's actually really impressive.
Great video though, wanted Alex to have his David vs Goliath moment. If I had the money and time I'd love to get a Clio 1*2 and track it
A "Pro sim racer" playing the least sim racing game of all time 😂😂😂😂😂
It was a bit unfair. That clip suspension and brakes would be worn out as well as the engine wouldn't be running so good. They should of atleast done the same car in the simulation.
Yeah the sim racer was a tosser
Exactly it would be fair if they bouth did it in real life in the same or similar car
Timing Ethan in a properly fast car vs Alex in something like this would be amazing
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@@CarThrottle yea I was gonna say I remembered a video that that exact thing that happened
With chris harris as Ethans instructor
can we get a part two of this, with the sim driver on track and CT on the sim.
Im just here for "hold out your hand"
Old aat yerrand*
Sold
after all this time I thought it was "alright you're in" 😂
Lol Willem I didn’t know you watched Car Throttle. Also how are you not verified?
Strangest crossover of 2020.
Imagine a challenge where you leave Ethan to his own devices to buy some sort of budget car, no streetKAs though.
Make him help someone else buy a car.
He bought his own projectcar and that was not a StreetKA
@@RK_GamerNL I know he did. I stand by my statement.
@@craigthompson6275 👍. But it was more on lalas345's reaction than yours
@@RK_GamerNL i c
Love these budget car challenges i think you should buy 3 cars for each one of you and take them on a road trip EDIT: thank you for the likes guys lets carry on so alex can see this
imagine it'd be just like top gear
So British Car Trek?
agree 👌🔥🔥
@@unknownanon62 basically
@@zxczxczx7343 thats what i was thinking
The esport gamer acted like he was an actual racing driver. It’s like a pro fifa player giving advice to Mourinho on how to manage teams.
Ye, Facts put him on the real track and he’ll be way worse than Alex
You're neither... what's your point?
Footballers don't use sims to practice, racing drivers do. There's a reason for that.
@@pogchampyugoslavia122 sim racers always act like they are better than real drivers at racing but just take a look at jimmy broadbent, he cannot drive for shit
@@mikeyknighty8226 at least jimmer acknowledges the fact that he isn't the best in real life
Racing Sim Driver has the personality of a soggy piece of bread
very cocky for a player of video games.
Really gotta stick to that Vexed brand.
Lol yeah but hes a gamer not a TV personality jeez.
@@Nickubus99 Jeez louise
That’s not very nice🤔😂
The ‘OLD AAT YERRAND’ cracked me up 😂
I thought that was an old Welsh saying or something.
what does that mean?
Mike from wheeler dealer says that when he sells a car
@@bitkarek I think it means "Hold out your hand!" but Mike says it in a funny way.
7:54
I don't think I've ever been more emotionally invested in a lap in my life...
The sim driver should have demonstrated his “skill” by actually driving the same car. But the sponsors probably don’t want us to see that he couldn’t come close to 2:01 in real life
Should have also played an actual racing sim and not the more arcade like Project cars 3 (that's what I assume it was given the marketing stickers haha)
@@TheEntelexia yeah it was PC3 complete crap
This.
When the sim was doing 145 down the straight in the rain I knew it was going to be bollocks 🤣
They should have used GT Sport, PC3 is doo doo
Did he use project cars 3 for the lap? If so that's the biggest load of bollocks I've ever seen. It ain't even a sim, lmao
What I've been thinking the entire time
They should've taken Jack's Golf. It's literally across the road.
Lol!!!
yeah, or at least they should've searched for a mk5 gti. turbo engine, 2l, 200 horses, much stronger car. But maybe the power to weight ratio is in favor of the renault.
I doubt it's worth 2000
Probably SORN'd. Cant drive it if it is.
@@Krazy8603 Jack's is definitely worth under 2k
I have to say, for a 16-year-old car with 110,000 miles it held up exceptionally well getting thrashed around a track lap after lap. Well done Clio. And even better news - it passed its MOT on the 25th of October 2020 so the guys are hopefully looking to keep it around!
“This has got cruise control so it’s quite a well specced one, which is obscure” just like every other 182 then 😂 please more Clio content!
As if the CC would ever work on a Clio 2 🤣, having had 3 myself I havent had a single one in which the CC worked. Only the limiter
Mine have always worked fine.... use my current cc all the time.
@@DataC0llect0r mine worked in my 172. It was literally everything else that didn't. It broke down on the way to a Cliosport meet 😂
My first car was a 172 and i had it for 5 years and only had a coil leads and fuel relay . Further drove it like I stole it never missed a beat . Still the most fun car I have ever owned
Clios are shite
I was expecting a sudden cut to them stripping the interior at any moment
If gareth was there then that probably would have happened
Would've been interesting to see what the "faster than an f1 driver" guy cud do in the renault ...
You have no sense of "omg I'm going to die" playing on a computer game ..
He could spin-out into the kitchen! His mom would kill him if he did that again.
VR Headsets exist
Ok let me just magically find enough money for a bmw e30 race car.
With a proper rig the experience gets pretty close to irl, I have experience of both. Throw in vr and you will 100% shit your pants if you crash. The only thing sim racing doesn't convey are elevation changes and g-forces.
@Seamus McShamish 100% agree. Being in a real car (coming from someone who has only done sim racing) is definitely way scarier in the sense that there is actual fear. Sim racing is completely risk free, he would have definitely cracked under pressure in a real car.
"driving in a sim racing games is not the same as driving a real car.." alex you done well...I LOVE CAR THROTTLE❤️
"New" Logitech G923.... It's litterally the same as an almost 15 year old G25 (same ffb motor etc), which is a shame.
this gearbox also looks like bad joke next to competition
In my heart Alex won, this kid with the sim gear probably spent 2k pounds on his rig if not more. While Alex and the lads got every dime out of that clio sport
I think it's more than 2k :D
That's what sponsors are for. He was a bit dry here, but he probably brought in many times the rig's worth through streams and the like ;)
Why the fuck are people so salty lmfao 🤦♂️
The wheel and pedal set costs 350£ not that it matters tho
Not really, Logitech are the budget option and the rig is a playseat so really nothing fancy
*Reads the title* Me: I’ve been trying to do this my whole life.
Don't you have to like, ask Donut media to make an up to speed on James' dad? XD
We are here to support you getting an up to speed on James' dad
You and me both kid...
@@dasdndaan5999 haha one of the best replies I’ve seen
What happened to you? I been trying to find you from donut media
"I've got the key. I've got the secret." Did he just reference Urban Cookie Collective? 😅
really enjoyed this video was amazingly fun to watch so you need to do lots more like it. definitely deserve your own tv show as i have not seen anyone as good as Clarkson, may and Hammond but you guys are up there.
Never known a person to get excited at finding an oil filler cap 🤣🤣
I think its a brilliant design
Try getting an original TRD one
So no water or anything’s in the pipe
Baby steps haha
Just gonna mention he’s setting laps on Project Cars 3 which is arguably the worst game in recent times in terms of how realistic it is so probably not the best comparison to real life 😂
Would like to see that "simmer" do it in Assetto Corsa.
@@mdo +1
Exactly! If I could I would like the comment 1 million times. PC3 sucks so bad.
@@DrVaults sucks is an understatement bro 😂
@@Jezze90 At least!
finally a longer video!! love it. ive binged your videos and love you guys lol much love from south Florida
The mockery from Ethan and Jack is just golden! Love it
The OLD ATT YERRAND sticker on the rear is genius 🤟
As a 172 owner it made me happy that you beat the shit out of this round Cadwell. Exactly what Clios are meant for!!
@@zector0 yep 100 % agree with u 😂
Totally a car in the spirit of the 205 GTI. Cracking wee sports cars.
Zector, ill quess you never seen a Nurburgring video ? 80% of the fwd cars are Renault for a reason. But I’ll quess your just another no knowledge hater
I bet Zector drives a German car that can only go semi-fast in a straight line. Bless him, one day he'll grow up
@@Techtiqal I imagined he'd have a silver diesel mercedes that used to belong to his dad, that smells terrible inside, but has dozens of 'air-fresheners' to cover it up.
Did no one get Alex's reference to the song? The Key Secret? I got the key, I got the secret.....
Half a Year later everyknows it lol even my 5 yo cousin
@@seicento__lover__pl636 Better late than never 🤣
I throughly enjoyed that episode . Thank you guys and keep it up.
New brakes , tyres, 4 wheel alignment and some weight reduction. After doing that you could shave up to 5 seconds off
That might be a good follow-up video. Can they make the car 5 seconds faster for £500 (or some other number).
Clearly
that was my first thought as well
yeah i really don't understand why they didn't at least strip the passenger seats
yeah should have at least yeeted the interior
He got a lot closer than I thought he would, really impressed actually. Not a very fair challenge, especially on the trickiest circuit in the country!
This is like watching old Top gear! :D
Alex is an absolutely brilliant driver. I loved watching that last lap. Seeing more of Alex hammering around a track from the perspective of an in-car camera would be awesome!
Nothing makes me happier than seeing a notification from these guys.
Haha same, especially if its a cheap car challange
It’s a sad existence
I'm guessing a virgin without driver's license
Agreed. It’s like Top Gear V2 and they all have unique personalities unlike Evans.
I saw it on my page but refreshed so quickly searched it up to watch😂
That Rich is a bundle of joy isn't he
good ol sarcasm
@@pinkcitrus98 he looks very proud to have beaten a mclaren f1 driver in a game.
@@Shekdawg Considering F1 drivers play simulators AND have much real life experience it is quite impressive. It might be ''just a game'' but believe me, people race HARD as fuck and sometimes the simulator can be harder than the real thing.
@@sirmounted8499 wtf are u saying? im a gamer too but im also a car person. how can u compare the difficulty of actual formula 1 racing to a video game?
@@pinkcitrus98 yeah literally. Sims racers don’t have the g-forces, or the potential of death!
Great episode , really funny commentary from the stopwatch team 🤣 great effort to get that time down
Well done Alex! A great lap, and a very good time all things considered 👍👏
The door lock opens Alex: sold 😂😂
We need some japanese drift cars budget edition.
altezza rs200
Those words don’t go together anymore my friend
Yes
You'd be limited to an MX-5 or IS200. Silvias, Skylines, Rotaries etc all cost well over £10k these days for a manual.
No, because these cars are expensive enough as it is!
This really makes me want to drive on Cadwell park!! First The Grand Tour with the Lotus Cortina, then Fifth Gear in the Morgan etc. And now you guys!!
More of these please. Really enjoyed that
7:47 never seen ethan go that red
Multiple things I expected in this video, the dancing to WAP wasn’t one of them 🤣🤣
I lost it when he started singing and dancing to it 🤣
29:47 why is there a van just in the left bottom corner? XD
Love the very specific timing equipment of Ethan with his phone
Should of put gamer boy in the clio to see how good his real driving is
*Should've
@@NatureXwars whatever you grammar nazi.
Knowing how other sim-racers race with real cars, I think he could beat Alex time. There is a bloke in BTCC racing, who won his spot from sim-racing and he won a race this year.
@@Deivs65 I know there are a handful of sim-racers that have done well in racing, but just because you can set a fast time on Project Cars 3 doesn't mean you are a driving god. Most of the ones who are now racing professionally also did some kind of track driving/racing along with sim racing. I don't think he would've gone round much faster in that thing with knackered old tyres and road brakes. Shame they didn't show a full onboard video of Alex's fastest lap so we could really see how he was doing.
@@CYMRU619 tru
Ethan is just a gem, a rare gem and CT’s finest member
And cute!!!
he is epic :)
He is the James May of the trio.
@@06dpa except I don't want to see James May with his kit off.
@@AdrianMcDaid Yeah, we get it, you're gay. No one cares.
I'm so happy that it's not yet another old bmw! And that you eventually got the 182 you talked about years ago. Great vid!
CT videos getting better and better, keep it up! :)
Any credibility of the sim racer was lost , when they decided to use Project Cars 3 as sim to set the lap time
Unfortunately, I don't think that whoever develops PC 3 won't like not using their game in the video considering it was probs sponsered by them
That's exactly what I was thinking! Why not use either Rfactor2 or iracing? I've never played these games as I'm just amature player, but those 2 games are known for their realism project cars 3 isn't even a proper sim!
The minute I saw your comment I realised this ain't going to be fair what so ever... PC 3 is barely even considered a sim compared to the other ones. Im sure this sim drive has iRacing or/and Asseto Corsa which would be more suitable to do stuff like these...
@@abdurali8855 Because this was a giant ad, a fun one, as always, but sponsors decide those details, not them. And given that the car had a PCars sticker, you can bet either Slightly Mad or Namco where involved in this.
@@ComandanteJ that's true
When you are looking for a 182 and car throttle is about to buy one, makes my day.
Save yourself, do it! Can’t go wrong with how cheap they are 👏🏻
@@v4-goose147 I’ve had a normal Renault Clio. It was the most unreliable thing ever. But it was dirt cheap. Why is the 182 not worth it. I know cheap sport hatchbacks gets thrashed a lot so is that one reason why?
@@ajharmiah2692 only the bits that aren't important and/or cost a tenner a pop off a breaker to replace break though. The rest is invincible (if you do your timing belt on time that is)
I’ve had 172/182/197 225 Megane and now have a 250 Megane, I’d do anything for my 172 back was such a perfect car I love it, if you get one mate never let it go
@@v4-goose147 never had any issues with any of mine, but anything else I’ve had vxrs and sts are all crap even my s4 spent more time in the garage than on the road😂
A very cool episode, and a big props to the Clio! Remember Top Gear and the Clio V6, the first car that didn't break on the track in the hands of the stig!
Best part of these vids are the lads coming together and just browsing auto trader/marketplace. One of our best pass times haha
"really strict budget, of around 2 grand" nailed it jack😂
"You never made to the top 10, so you can be always reminded about it." King
Good to see you out at the track! You know you'd probably enjoy doing a round of the BRSCC MX-5 Championship in 2021. We're not very good and always get close racing somewhere in the midfield. Just putting it out there...
Caldwell park is a beautiful track. Also, that clio 182 sounds glorious.
Another Track car to end up like the MR2 that we never saw again? Let's go! 🤣
still havent seen that MG thing either
@@ProTuneHD I think Alex said one of the team was using it and it's been sold now.
Tesco Offical oh sad times
Genuinely makes me happy seeing new vids like this. Cheers guys from a lonely lockdowner.
hi Dave tell us a joke mate
Alex you're killing it! Driving an old Clio which is not in peak condition yet managing to be a few secs behind a pro Sim Racer! Even casual sim gamers could not get that time in the wet! This episode reminds me of the top gear episode when Clarkson tried to match his speed taking the corkscrew in Laguna Seca Raceway in Gran Turismo with an NSX, it's close to impossible due to how the body is also thrown away side to side compared to do it on a stable seat in game
Such good content I love your channel, keep up the good work!
23:46 ""what advice could we give him"". since when did alex became james may
I held you to that video too 😉 been waiting for you to buy a 182, shame the brakes didn’t hold out but for an old girl she did well I’ll be hopefully getting my 2nd 182 soon 😬
Loved this video, really perfected the formula.
Definitely feeling those old top gear vibes in this one! Great work on this one! The car had a lot of weight so next time, should probably take out the seats in the car to reduce weight.
The load up on the “oldddd artttt yaaa anddddd” was epic 😅
I'm hoping Renault is there as i saw in thumbnail lol
My old 182 which I bought in 2005 had it for 2 years. Great video
This video was just class from start to finish
The intro gives me top gear vibes, nice
Now Alex has 2 hours and 30 minutes of racing experience
I just wanna say Alex singing part of WAP made a really terrible night a bit better. I love you guys keep it up!
Spot on video guys. Did well with the clio for the price. Great driving on the track dude.
15:25 They've only gone and named it "Choppy, Choppy."
I really like these 182’s and would love to buy one as a toy to fiddle with if I had the space for a third car. Not fast by modern standards but they’re cheap and lots of fun.
This channel just gets more and more epic. Why doesnt the BBC understand this is the kind of stuff we all want to see!
You guys should definitely do a track car series with this little nugget!
Decent brakes and tires on that Clio would have easily shaved off the 5 secs.
When is the MR2 build starting?
Yeah im waiting on the same thing
That was epic fun, good driving!
I love ethans excitement when he found the filler cap. Cannot wait for the project car season
I LOVE this video as an owner of a 182. Mine is a titan silver, 2005 Team spec. I can barely afford it, probably overpaid for it, and can't get rid of it for market price but I'm not mad, I love the car.
at this point this is kinda top gear UK where Ethan is James May, Jack is Richard Hammond and Alex is Jeremy Clarksson but not fat.
it would be ironic if jack was richard because of...you know...height
Did you mean Hammock
Personality wise yes, in terms of car knowledge for Jack yes but for the other 2 it would swap around as James May knows more about the mechanics and scientific parts of cars than Jeremy does.
Gutted you didnt get the MK7 Celica! Defo need a video of the VVTLi 190! Fantastic cars!
'Hold out your racing track', more projects around a racing track would be great! This video was a lot of fun. Can we have a part 2 with an extra budget in the dry with track tyres, roll cage and a bit of tuning on the Clio RS?
10:52 there's the spare wheel!
the Logitech wheel is a very low end wheel and for actually learning how the car behaves it isnt that good and the game youre playing is project cars which is an arcade
Well that's a sponsored vidéo isn't it?
The wheel is plenty for sim racing. Many guys who are racing with over 5k iRating are still using the logitech wheels. The bigger upgrade you need to be more competitive are decent pedals. And yeah pCars is shit. ACC and iRacing is much better for sim racing.
@@ItsDavid07 I used to have a Logitech g920 a couple of years ago I’ve upgraded to a fanatec podium the difference is incredible even when the Logitech wheel is compared to a mid range wheel like a fanatec cls the difference is still immense 100% of the guys I race with use fanatec cls,sim cubes,accufores or fanatec podiums a wheel maters the most in a sim setup
@@hubertkam7647 I thought I was having a stroke reading that reply. Please punctuate. You're also comparing a £500 direct drive wheel to one that is effectively £130 on sale using helical gears so yeah the difference is huge. What I'm saying is that you're not really missing out on the most important feedback during sim racing which provides information as to where and how the car is reacting, you just get a much more pronounced feel and detail when using a higher end wheel. You can 100% be competitive with a G29/920 and compete with people use CLS wheels and up. You also have to factor in that people just don't have nearly £2-3k to fork out on a sim rig so going for the most cost effective way which is essentially better pedals is a much bigger upgrade than a new wheel. Brake and throttle control is just as important as the wheel itself.
@@ItsDavid07 a cheap direct drive wheel is 1500 euro and if you gave me the g920 pedals I would probably be still within 2 seconds of my time
Fantastic video chaps, keep up the great work.
A chair and a wheel on some high specked PC does not simulate a race track lap challenge scenario. Not even close. No g-forces, no risk, no nothing. You can't imagine how hard, how physically and mentally tiring it is to drive fast on a race track. You have to experience that for yourself. It looks easy, but it ain't! On a sim you only get some of the sensation, but nothing real. I've had a Logitech G27 in the past, it was really fun! But only when I went to the race track, in a real car, I realized what it actually took to drive a car fast! Great (actual) driving Alex!