EPIC Nikon 800mm PF VR S 8K First Look | Far More Than You Think | Images From The Field Matt Irwin
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The Z 800mm f/6.3 VR PF S coupled with the Z 9 seems like something very special. May it be for birding, wildlife, sports, landscape, cityscape, portraiture and more. Let's take the 800mm pre-production lens through some real world scenarios in 8K.
00:00 Intro - The Moon
00:27 Opening Montage
01:35 800 PF Introduction
02:21 What Does This Mean For Z Mount
02:35 Will It Sell Well?
02:48 Slow Motion 120 FPS Tracking
03:10 This lens can see so far!!
03:26 Portrait Photography and 800 PF
03:42 Stills and video examples
04:37 You can shoot far more than wildlife
05:00 Images from the EVF, see how it's working
05:40 2 X TC so much reach
05:56 Discussion around power and usefulness
07:00 Teleconverters close up
07:20 1.4 x TC mounted
07:43 2.0 x TC mounted
08:00 This much reach is crazy !!!
08:37 What of chromatic aberration?
08:48 And Thank you !!
09:12 What does PF mean?
09:40 Outro
10:09 Sample Video and Stills Nikon 800 PF
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I just had to say this. Your 800mm pre-production review has been more real-world than any of the others given the opportunity. Much more relatable and to the point. Thank you Matt. Well done.
Cheers Mike, much appreciated :) And thanks to Ash, Joe and Marc.
Hi Matt, thank you for this video, which is the best I’ve seen so far about this lens. I am very glad to see that you are getting the well deserved recognition for your excellent work.
Your preview of Nikon's Z 800mm f/6.3 VR PF is the best video by far. I like how you mastered and get the most out of what you can do with the lens and the photos and video are so good.
Awesome Matt, You are so good and just getting better! Thank you very much.
Great preview Matt! Love your channel.
Beautiful photos and video footage! Thank you Matt! So pleased that Nikon has chosen you to test out their pre-production models. You're great!
Thanks for being here, and yes it has been great to work with the 800 PF. It is totally WOW !!
OMG ! Excellent lens, more importantly, what you achieve with it,is out of this world!
Wow Matt! Great job, and congrats on getting the lens! Thank you for showing us that forced perspective! For me, Matt, its the suspended highway from sea level at 10:52! Crazy stuff! So much variety in this video... just a treat!
Congratulations. This is a well deserved milestone. That looks like a really fun lens to use, and a really sad lens to have to return! I'm loving your content and your attitude. Keep up the great work.
Thanks so much SM, and yes it has to go back, now to work out if I am going to get one ...? :)
Magnificent, and the lens is amazing too!
Okay. That is big! The night sounds during the moon shots were awesome.
Again great to see you with the latest gear, showing us what a true photographer can do!
Thanks Robin :)
Thanks Matt for an outstanding demonstration of a lens with this extreme design. It’s great to see how you apply the gear to a use case I haven’t seen for you until this episode (the very long distance model shoot)
Yes I love using this as a lifestyle / portrait lens and I will consider seriously adding it to my collection. There is simply no other way to get that sort of look :) :)
Hi Matt, you and your videos always amaze me, your humanity and your photographic ability are superb thank you
Matt, you're a maniac... and I mean that in the nicest possible way. Thanks for showing a variety of cool and well-done shots with this great lens. :)
Love it, love it, love it. Thanks Matt, though I dread to think what the waiting list will be to get one!! Look like the absolute must have for wildlife and sports photographers.
Just fabulous Matt!! Well done and congratulations 🥂
Thanks so much to you too sir, fine work with those dancing feet. :)
Nice review Matt.. I am a long time Nikkor 800 5.6 IF-ED Ai-s user.. it's exciting to see Nikon making this lens and cool to see people being excited to get to shooting with 800...mm.. Love the huge tripod and Fluid head... great work.
Nice to see a model with a smile and some fun on the shoot! Not the standard "empty dreaming gaze". Lens looks awesome too!
Some of these shots look amazing - the compression is stupendous.
It is something very special Geoff. Size and weight ... the handling is spot on ...
Wow love seeing it, can’t wait to see what your calendar pictures with it look like!
Thanks Robin :) Cheers Matt
WOW what a cinematic lens. Awesome video Matt
Thanks a ton! Yep it is a cinematic beauty. :)
My goodness, this is very exciting. Amazing work, Matt. Hats off to Nikon for getting this lens into your hands. Definitely the finest review I have watched on the 800. Now of course, I am curious about how it will work in the Z7ll.
Thank you so much Randy. From my perspective this is an extremely impressive piece of tech considering the size, weight and optical prowess. Cheers Matt
Thanks for another interesting video....what an exciting time to be a Nikon photographer. Was that the recent full moon from a couple of weeks ago, Matt? If so it was the "Worm moon" which which celebrates the long-awaited end of winter and entry into spring in the northern hemisphere. I managed to get some nice shots on my 200-500. Looking forward to your next video...always entertaining and informative.
Thankyou Matt for an inspiring presentation of the 800 mm lens. I am convinced that this is just the besinning of a good future for Nikon
Absolutely Björn, we are really seeing the full force of the Z mount vision in this lenses like this and the Z 9, the future is bright. :)
@@MattIrwinPhotography Yes, the future is Yellow!😂
You definitely deserve the treat from Nikon, well done!
Six months ago I would have never even contemplated the purchase of such a lens, but now after being so stoked with the performance of the Z9 and Z 100-400mm combo, I am thirsting for a long Z lens, and your excellent presentation has motivated me to budget for the new Z 800mm PF. I put my deposit down today, and I am first in the queue at my local camera shop.
Todd that is so exciting, and I have to say I am contemplating the same thing ... this lens really brings a set of new possibilities and the handling is so good due to the size and weight ... just WOW. :)
Your best review to date. Congratulations Matt.
Thanks so much Vahagn. :) I have to say I am a little in love with this lens ... size and weight and reach ... with the Z 9. Extremely well crafted to work together. So good. Cheers Matt
Thank you Matt for the video. I like the lens and I think I'll buy it :)
One word Nikon …. Wow… Thank you Matt that’s one of the best pre launch videos I’ve seen 👍👍👍
Hello Matt, I think this lens looks amazing and from what I am seeing a step away from the old style long telephoto lenses. Keep up there development of PF lenses, I know that I have and love both the 300mm PF and the 500mm PF but this one will just remain a fantasy lens for my. I think it will be price to go at around £5500 or there about, not like to 400mm f2.8 but that is a different type of street lens. Unlike your self I do not do much street photography but in your hands this dose just look the part of a street photographers kit. :). Keep week, keep safe and continue having fun.
Matt, Outstanding video! 😃 ...800mm Amazing background for cityscape unreal dimension for portrait shoot. ... ❤ I like Ash's spark... so lively.
Cheers Bob. Is the 800 on your radar? Yes Ash was fabulous😀 cheers Matt.
@@MattIrwinPhotography Time will tell ... Do to pricing. ... I do love my Z100-400 s with my Z9. 💘
Thanks for the quick turn around for your review of the Nikon 800 pf lens..It looks so good and light compared to standard lens. Trouble I suspect is it’s a budget buster. Maybe they will stun us with excellent price point. I’m looking forward to see the 200-600 mm lens on the toad map for Z system. Keep up the good work. The 800mm should be great for surf photography… thanks again
I’m glad someone at Nikon has finally recognised your genuine enthusiasm for the brand. It encouraged me not to abandon Nikon and while the Z9 price/form factor is not for me, I hope a new Z7 III or Z8 might be what I’m after.
Cheers Pete, thanks so much. Matt :)
Congratulations Matt on Nikon adding you to preproduction test team. Let’s hope for more. Maybe the Z8 or Z7III?
Thanks so much Leo. :)
It's official my mind is completely blown. Wow what a combo!!!!
Yep, in hand with the Z 9, extremely well balance, it feels so well thought out ... and optically outstanding. :)
Great model and video Matt...
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks so much Tel :)
Nice to hear that someone finally got the pronunciation for "fresnel" right. Now, maybe the lighting gaffers can stop rolling their eyes and covering their ears every time it's mentioned.
I'm so glad Nikon keeps giving you their latest tech.
Bravo bravo bravo Matt.
Cheers Edward :)
Best look at the lens so far!
Cheers !!
Fabulous into!! Beautiful smile and top music, thank you very much. (suggestion, then cut into lens close up, not tall guy in shorts...) I love the model plus distant tram (poster look) and the circular mortoway shots, bravo!
Hi Matt! That lens looks really great so far! I´m already curious what price it will have. Maybe you should also invest in a radio connection to your model, when you use it as a portrait lense! ;-)
One point of reference that I didn’t hear mentioned in the video. The 800mm f6.3 with the 2x teleconverter closes the f-stop down to f13. Drop in a polarizer and light transmission falls into the neighborhood of f16, and even with the 1.4x, the lens is stopped down to f9 at it’s widest. Which doesn’t detract from how remarkable the lens is for the money, but at the same time, this is mostly a strong daylight lens, not necessarily a combination which will work well for birding in jungle conditions (for instance) and other relatively low light scenes.
So good.
Stellar production! I have always wondered about the richness of the colors in your photos. I know you process your RAW files in Capture One. Does the software read the as shot Nikon profile data or does it use a proprietary profile? Would love to know more about your process . . . it's so stunning. Cheers!
Thanks Roger, yeah I think it is a mix. I shoot flat profile, then Capture One adds its magic, which I can remove ... but files are not the same as NX studio ... I will look into doing a video about it :) Cheers Matt
That girl is simply beautiful. So is that lens...But this girl ! ;) Good job Matt !
OK, the results are KZhead, but the 2X and 1.4X TC's are rocking it with that lens. Dang! Very promising - what did you see in the files on your computer? Oh, the Australian Shepard running in the surf - you could have spent more time with him. What a shear joy in action. Ash was a pistol. Nice add. :) Good on you to score the review. You are someones radar. Well done!
Cheers Ronald, the result with both TC's are awesome. This video could have been 1 hour long if I used all the footage. That is a lot of 8K action. :)
Hello Matt, good job, got some more idea of how that works and decided to get it too.I will keep my 600mm f4 fl E and the D6 too so that I can compare the IQ with my Z9 and the 800mm pf in terms of low light ability ,bokeh, speed,etc..
Great!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Stunning...
It sure is something amazing Selwyn. :)
Thanks for this great review. Does the z9 has a digital zoom?
It must have GREAT stabilization. I believe I heard "Manfrotto" ln the run-up. This means Matt was essentially handholding al the time! Kudos to him! Oh, although I have the previous Nikkor 800, I'm buying this new one for my Z9's. I'm trying my best to expunge all things "Manfrotto." Of course, what they call a "tripod" makes for a good paper weight.
Matt you ROCK! Kudos to Mark and Ash as well.
Thanks so much Mark :)
oh my Lord what a lens! i want it so bad..
Well Matt, you are costing me a lot of money, your enthusiasm has forced me to buy a z8 and 800mm lens. This is a dangerous rabbit hole I am going down lol. Can I ask what video editor you use and have you messed around with the highest 8.3k settings at 60fps? Massive files I’m guessing but the results would be spectacular. Keep up the great work!
I am the lucky owner of the 400mm 2.8 z with the 1.4. teleconverter inside and I also have a 2x teleconverter. I use this on the Z7 II . I noticed that with the 2x teleconverter the autofocusing looked slower, or actually less speedy because it's so fast. I presume you will test that also with the 800mm . I look forward to a side to side test with the 400mm + 2x telec and the 800 mm.
It’s good to see peoples faces again.
Wonderful presentation of a wonderful lens. Wish I could think of a more powerful word than mere wonderful. These new lenses from Nikon are likely to delight professionals, but I really don’t have opportunities to use them to best advantage, nor frequency. I’m waiting for the non-S 200-600 to go with my 24-200 non-S but superb lens on my little Z6ii. I think that will be it for me, especially if Nikon sets the price sensibly. Else, a Sigma Contemporary 150-600 will do fine. Likely to lose another summer waiting for Nikon, which at my age does not please me.
Wow!
Of course..... You have an 800mm to test out so lets do some portraits! I love it. Will be interesting to see how it is priced. Guess Nikon will tell us soon.......
It is something, that is for sure :)
Hi Matt, your preview made me call my local dealer and preorder a copy. You took an interesting approach with the portraits, a huge compliment to Ash, she’s a fantastic model. I need this lens for birding and wildlife. So I‘m a bit worried about the 6.3 aperture, but more importantly about the speed of the autofocus. So what is your feeling regarding its speed compared to the 400 f2.8? By the way, kudos for your nice and in depth reply to the criticism on nikonrumors 👍
For me, this lens is a higher priority than upgrading my Z6ii to a Z9. The way I see it is, photographers have managed to capture better images with older/less advanced cameras than the Z6ii but it is more difficult to substitute/compensate for reach or optical quality. My guess is between 5 and 6k in Euroland which is a lot, but since gas and food have both gotten too expensive to buy, gotta spend my money on something, right?
Great first look, Matt. Rumoured to be in the $6000 range which would make it $7500CAD. After all the demands the Z9 has put on my budget, I guess I'll be sticking with my modest 70-200 w/ 2x teleconverter for the time being. Maybe the 100-400 would be an option. Glad that Nikon gave you a chance to check out this amazing lens.
Thanks Ray, yeah there is something pretty uncanny about the reach of this lens, with the size to weight ratio, along with just the handling and balance between the camera and lens. To me it certainly feels like a lot of effort is going into making the combination of lens and camera feel as good, as balanced, as unified, as possible. It is an amazing achievement in my mind for 800mm, which becomes 1600mm with very little change in handling, with the addition of the 2 x TC. Sublime. :) Take care and hopefully next week we can catch up.
Raymond, if you are correct about the price, I think there is a 600 coming that should be more affordable. Would love to see what you would do with either. And, I suspect Vancouver Island presents more opportunities than Toronto. Stay well.
Great video. Is the 800mmPF a Z lens and are the teleconverters also Z mount too? So this lens is different than the 300 and 500mm PF lens which are "f" mounted, correct? Thanks
Wow this lens is gonna be a best seller for sure which means it will be on backorder for at least a year or so.
Looks like a great lens, I don't even want to imagine how expensive it will be. Most likely outside of my price range, but for those that can afford it (or will use the lens professionally) I think they will be happy with it.
Yep I think it delivers so well with a mix of size, weight and optical awesomeness.
According to Nikon Rumors 6,000 US$...
This is epic!
Tis the BIZZNESS
I watched Jared Polins review of this lens earlier and he claims the AF speed on this lens is good but not comparable to the 400 f2.8 w 1.4 TC, what is your opinion. I would think the motors in this lens are not the new ones with the magnets that are in the 400 due to the anticipated price difference. Glad you had fun with it but I think I'm sticking with my 500 PF w/ 1.4 tele when I need it, the cost of this lens will be much less than the 400 but still too high for me. Thanks for sharing, luv your videos, meant to comment on you recent video tour where your friend is following you on an electric skateboard and shooting video, just crazy and awesome.
Great video Matt. Very exciting times ahead for Nikon. The quality is there, but supply issues in the industry will be a worry for all brands and who is the quickest to get products on shelf. I think Nikon will be at a disadvantage in that regard compared to mega corporations like Sony or Cannon. Take care. Ross
Thanks Ross, yeah I am not sure Sony and Canon are doing that well with supply. For example the Sony PS5 is still impossible to buy and it was released in 2020. In some ways the bigger you are the larger your needs. But I agree it is tough for everybody at the moment. 'Get your orders in early' is perhaps my best advice. :) cheers Matt
Matt, when you had your assistant walking the Profoto strobe with the model, how far was your radio connection on that shoot (maximum distance you were working with)...??? Nice set of images you pulled out of that shoot!
Thanks Leonid, Yeah I would say 100m or more. 😀
Glad to see Nikon continuing to support those whom supported them in times of doubt. What a great time to be a Nikon shooter!
The Z 9 with any Z glass is simply an astonishing delivery device across such a diverse range of subjects and situations. I am left feeling no doubt in being able to capture what I personally need. And with the addition of 8K and 4K 120 among other features ... with more to come from the next firmware ... I always thought the Z mount had a lot to give ... Thanks so much Mozman for supporting the channel, so great to have you here. :) Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography My Z9 is on the truck for delivery today, the clock ticks slowly!
@@mozzman I wow, let me know when it arrives. SO EXCITING !!!!
@@MattIrwinPhotography I received it a few hours ago. The battery is almost charged and she's almost ready to roll!
@@mozzman BOOOOOM !!!! can't wait to hear.
Hey Matt, thanks for the review. Couple things I noticed, the exposures on the model we're all over the place, any feedback on why. Also, the Moon video seems flat, which I know is common near full phase, where you under exposed? Thanks again.
Hi Paul, the exposure on Ash were an artistic choice and created in post. Which I state at the side of the video. I did not see the point of them being all identical. When you say flat moon I am not sure what you mean. Not high contrast? To me the images felt natural and full of detail. Did you watch in 8K? Cheers Matt 😀
@@MattIrwinPhotography Matt, sorry if I missed the "artistic comment", but it did make me wonder if the lens/body combo was doing something horribly wrong. As for the Moon shot, I don't have an 8K monitor, but I recognize that lunar astrophotography is hard, and making a (near) full phase Moon pic not look flat and gray is pretty hard.
Matt, this is a superb, really superb, review. There's simply no comparison,,,,see what a ridiculous review the Fro did for example. Well doe and let's see Nikon give you loads more!
Gee whizz Matt. I finally get my z 70-200 (yesterday) after 2 years of scrimping and saving and now this! Thanks. Thanks a lot! 😀
You and me are both saving ... I am pretty excited by it :)
The best part of your "reviews" is you keep it real. Specs are fun, but seeing is believing. Did you try bolting that beauty on a 7II as well? For those of us that will never be able to afford both a Z9 and that gorgeous 800mm stovepipe!!!
As a prop I popped it on the Z7 for shooting the teaser trailer, but I never actually shot anything with it. ( kzhead.info/sun/edOJYKuhr5Sqoo0/bejne.html just in case you have not seen it ) and I added the grip extender to make it look like a Z 9 in shadow, as we needed my Z 9 to get the 4K 120 FPS. So we will have to wait for the Official launch to test it out on all the Z cameras, how about on the ZFC, native 1200mm !!!!
Watched Moose Peterson give a seminar on the Z9 and he says the Z9 produces black and white images like no other camera he's used -- your thoughts? That moon video is ridiculously good! Wow. And portrait photography with an 800! Just fab! You rock.
Thanks Steven, 3 months into the Z 9 I am still finding the limits of its capabilities. As for black and white I have not specifically explored it. Did Moose talk about how he makes his black and whites? In camera, or in post production? Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography He wasn't speaking specifically to b&w but about settings he uses and encouraged as a no brainer the use of Adobe RGB, and in that context said b&w out of the camera was the best ever. Related (I think; I'm a technical idiot) he did mention in passing he uses "Charcoal" in creative picture control (and "standard" in picture control). I'm not done the series yet and he may have said "more about that" re b&w and I'll report back if he goes there :)
What card for the 8k recording, and what resolution/codec for capturing EVF on ninja v+?
I have to update my view on this Nikon 800mm f6.3 lens. I did think with the f6.3 aperture this lens would be brutal for portrait or nighttime but better than i expected.
It works, and if I get a copy again I will work it harder in both of those scenarios, but my early call is, if you know what you are doing, this lens can do so many things :)
While the lens is incredible, and incredibly well controlled as all Z glass seems so far, what I can see as an owner of the 300 F4 PF is some tell tale fresnel element onions when you shoot into the sun [1:23 helicopter, look left]. To be expected, and somewhat impossible to get rid of. Everything else... wow, what a lens !
Looks awesome. If the $6000.00 U.S. price of the lens is correct, then this lens with a Z9 is about ½ the cost of a Canon R3 and the Canon 800 combo. I love the direction Nikon is going!
Congratulations 🎈🎉🎊🍾 You can now take pictures of the moon and other far away sights.
'To infinity and beyond'
Given how long it took Nikon to ship the 500 PF (9 months in my case, far longer for many) I doubt I'll get my hands on one before mid 2023. Maybe by then my Z9 will arrive too.
Thank you Matt Would appreciate if you could ask Nikon to send one for me to check out, I'm sure somebody would like to know what the 800 is like on a D4s, Oh, and maybe an FTZ mount I guess :) Well done Matt! ........... Gary .................... AU
Im waiting for the Non adapted 500mm f5.6 PF S Lens for African Wild Life to go with the 70-200 S plus 1.4 x Convertor on my current Z7
Thanks Matt >> love the Model Pics
How will be the 200 to 600 in this equation. Thinking the same
Hello sir Few thing is common between us. One our Moon looks the same from my place 🇮🇳. AND NIKON
What an amazing lens! I could really use this for BIF, can you send it over when you are done with it? Please? Good Day!
Cool lens, love the concept in terms of price/weight/size/optics. However, here I am, sitting in a train, my mountain bike in the cargo car, and I wish that AF-P 70-300E would go native Z, a bit smaller and lighter...
@Photo Bunny Nah, it's about 2-3cm longer, wider, and 830g vs 1430g. Bottom line is the 70-300 just fits my handlebar bag WITHOUT the FTZ attached. 100-400 Z, no way, I wanna go smaller and lighter. Eventually Nikon will come up with something suitable for me, perhaps a pendant to the extendable lenses like the 14-30/24-70. Whatever it will be, until then I will use the 70-300 as a stop gap, got it almost new for $370, sold the 70-200 f2.8.
Thank for your good performance of Nikon 800 mm f63 , I just wonder would it possible autofocus while add of 2X teleconverter to became 1600mm on Nikon Z9
Yes autofocus is totally possible, and was used during some of the shots of Ash and the moon. Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography ,many thanks,that’s a big good news for Z9 users
You are my favorite Nikon buddy! I do have a few questions…
Yep? 😀
OMG I need to go back Nikon after a while in Sony
This sure is an epic combo :)
How much slower is the AF speed of the Nikon 800/6.3 vs 800/5.6?
just great i put down my Nikon 200-500 F mount because the weight and size hoping this one will be in resonable cost, weight and size
We will know soon Avner, what is your expectation on price?
@@MattIrwinPhotography 4-5 k usd
how is the auto focus speed and accuracy?
POW!!!
Great advanced look. If you can’t swing the 400 2.8, this should be a worthy replacement.
Yeah for sure Stuart, this is an outstanding lens. :)
Does the 800mm PF have a medical warning for pacemaker users, because of the powerful focus motors like the Z 400mm TC has???
How are we going to clean our Fresnel lenses in our vintage 800mm PFs 50 years from now? 😛
This is all nice and good, but what we need is for the Nikon to make product such ass the Z9 and the 100-400mm lens to be available for us normal people.
What aperture did you shoot? The subject separation of the model not looking great