Nikon just officially announced the Z-Mount 800mm F6.3 PF VR lens lens and we had a chance to spend some time with it! Learn about the size and weight savings compared to the F-Mount 800mm F5.6 and watch Chris' impressive bird identifying skills!
0:00 - Intro
1:14 - Sample Images
1:45 - Size and weight
2:29 - Controls and handling
4:27 - Minimum focus
5:00 - Autofocus
5:48 - Price
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Loving the humour in this video, packed full of bird jokes, nicely played Chris & Jordan! 😂
The best part of this episode was how much I learnt along the way. More birding episodes please, get this man some budget and send him to S.America, Australia and Africa!
No need to send them anywhere. I think if they spent enough time outdoors in Canada they will discover more ostriches, etc....
For $500 US more than the Canon 800 5.6, you can get the Nikon 800 6.3 and TWO Z9s. Insane
It’s only a Nikon.
@@bngr_bngr Do Zeiss make an 800mm? If someone does compare this with the best Canon, please flag it with a comment...
@@GeraintDafis So do Burger king...(Nikon make their own glass to ensure quality, others don't!)
Z9...the bigfoot camera...talked about...rarely seen.
@@bngr_bngr Yep, that's the beauty of it.🙂
I had no idea how poor my knowledge of birds actually was. I am humbled yet inspired. On an unrelated note, it’s so nice to see the Z lens catalog continue to expand. Nicely done, Nikon.
Chris & Jordan have perfected their comic partnership; I just loved Jordan’s hurried running in at the top, and Chris’s in depth knowledge of ornithology was something to behold ! (Reminded me of Morcombe & Wise, an extremely popular British Tv double act, going back a few years now… ). Yet still packed with lots of useful lens info; a really great review and an excellent short film, thkz.
Best intro to date. The Nikon PF lenses was the main reason I gambled on the Z6ii versus the R6 despite knowing at the time I was buying the third best AF in a two horse race (Sony I didn't consider for stupid reasons but what is smart about spending 5-figures on a hobby?). Will be putting my deposit down this week.
As an true 'murican, my chest swelled when I saw that Bald Eagle. Truly majestic and inspiring.
I couldn't believe how lucky we got. It was a truly inspiring moment.
@@niccollsvideo Sign me up for your birding photo tour. Which year? EVERY year!
@@niccollsvideo The Canadian trees must be some of the strongest in the world to have a thin branch like that support such a powerful Eagle.
I stood up and saluted when I saw that bald eagle. Amazing.
In addition to the new lens, I also learned a lot about birds. Thank you guys!
Some of the bird info might be misleading
@@frstesiste7670 nah.. I find it pretty accurate! 😂
Ah, the Noct, such a good unit of measure!
Nikon nailed it again. Wow.
Chris got his Ornithology education online? From what school? University of Phoenix?
Really,really enjoyed this review. I’ve got an 800mm PF on order and am expecting months before I get it but will be worth it. I needed the humor this morning and has set me up for a positive day. I am a DP fan. Keep bringing us great content and positive camera/lens info.
I'd totally watch a bird photography channel narrated by Chris. I now realise I know so little about the subtle differences of Canadia's gooses.
This is an amazing lens; well done Nikon!
The price difference is insane, Canon is charging $17K for their 800/5.6, this 800/6.3 is just $6.5K.
Then you have the Canon 800 F11 for 1/5th that 6.3
and my Leica DG 100-400mm F4-6.3 was £1k giving me the same effective reach of 800mm at half the weight and minimum focus distance of 1.3m
@@GrandHuevotes My bridge camera has a wider aperture at 3000mm, but I wouldn't compare that to an 800mm f6.3 or f5.6 either!!
@@dominiclester3232 RF 800/f11 is a decent lens for its price. Tbh for tele new comers, RF system makes sense combined with backward compatible with EF big whites
@@GrandHuevotes @ F11 Ya not a comparison
Birding with Niccolls is my favorite show
I just want to say thank you. The humor was great. This video made my day.
I think you just made David Attenborough cry.
Chris and Jordan are a pair of Canadian national treasures.
Cool, Nikon nailed it - purrfect!
Chris great luck with those exotic birds! I learned a lot today.
your videos definitely brighten the day
Just ordered mine! Hope it won't be long. Great video guys.
So expert on the bird species, amazing. Attenborough would be proud of you... Nice lens too.
Your bird identification skills are legendary.
Great video guys!
loved the humour and nice overview of the new lens
Stay up for DPReview TV, worth it It's amazing on the weight differences, it becomes partially portable now, slightly...
Wow ! Awesome lens!
Thank you for the pre-production review. Please define a focus speed measurement. (closest to infinity and something like n-times focal length to infinity.) And measure this value on your tests. (on two reference Cameras per brand (like Z6 and Z9)
Man, I love long lenses like this. Could just look at bird photos the entire video (you guys need more samples!). Also enjoyed the humour. The deer and flamingo jokes were hilarious.
Thanks for the bird info!
Nikon kings of wildlife photography once again! Simply put, no other company can compete with the pf range of awesome lenses
well, I would not crown too early. Indeed with the 400mm & build-in tele-converter only 300mm and 500mm is missing from the traditional line-up. And these length are available in F-mount in traditional luminous and in the phase Fresnel design, so weight is can be lower than the competition, methinks. Still, the competitive situation might change overnight. What I find funny, Sony tends to be always regarded to be top in their offer. However for professional tele-primes where are the luminous 200mm or 300mm offers? Adapting Minolta glass? Although, as said, it's a tricky field for fan-boy-ism. And in the normal prime range Sony's offers including 3rd parties are amazing, all these AF f 1.4 options! Particularly for people having budget limitations like myself
@@maxdmachy 300 pf, 500 pf, 800 pf, 400 2.8 with 1.4tc, 120-300 2.8, 180-400 4.0. And the upcoming 400 pf. Nikon is way out in front right now
@@robeson1231 Looking at that impressive list - and having heard about sports- and wildlife capabilities of the Z9, you are right! And the advantage of getting sharper, faster everything - there won't be game-changers like Sony's animal eye-af at some point was. The 120-300mm f2.8 also must be a beast of a lens! As I don't have a pro budget, reading about this gear - it's dreams. I might get a used D4 or D5 with a "cheap" old f 4.0 500mm autofocus lens. Or go manual focus with an adapter for Fuji and it's virtual split image viewfinder focusing aid. Might work with an f2.8 300mm, possibly at good light with tele-converter. Might soon get an older Fuji, lens adapters are already there and I own two Summicrons from the 1970ies
Great review and what a bonus to learn about all those birds…😉😉😉
Great review! Great bald eagle shot!
Amazing lens.
Great video! Solid information and the comedy is great 😀
Amazing Bald Eagle shot!!! 😉👌
I love that Nikon is fleshing out their telephoto line-up in the Z mount, still a huge lens to be taking on long walks but likely amazing for sports.
thought you wrote flesh light for a moment... i need to stop
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I would absolutely love this setup. An 800mm f6.3 full-frame lens that you can hand hold is an amazing feat. Now, affording it is an entirely separate problem.
DPReview TV @ their best. Energetic meaningful content, wildlife as good as it can possibly be on a tight schedule with not the best weather, amazing humor! And it seems to be the first Independent real lens vlog review out, congrats! Best liked moments for me were how happily Jordan played the dumb lens-boy & the lesser ostrich! Coming back to the lens, considering people own enough ftz adapters by now - for the price of the old you get a Z9 on top for a superior product. At least in practical use. I am not talking about trained snipers who work out to easily carry the old lens all day and doing handheld shooting all along. For more average earning wildlife fanatics, how does the new toy work on Z5, Z50? The later pushes some limits, weight and reach-wise
You guys are fun. That lens looks great. It almost makes me wish I didn't start using Canon for bird photography. Nah, normal people can't get the Z9 yet and I bet that lens is on backorder for years like the 500 PF was.
I swear if Canon doesn't come out with something similar in the next year or two, I'm likely to jump ship ! I SO need 800mm, but not willing to pay $15K for something that is miserable to lug around. Anyway, I'm not a fanboy of ANY particular brand, and this is a freaking sick lens !!! I'm SO envious !
I love the picture of the bored eagle!
I actually enjoyed this video as it was humorous and educational. I live in central east coast Florida and I've seen those pink flamingos in people's yards so you are right. You can actually get very close to them and they won't move, not camera shy. .....
Excellent video, but I have a suggestion! Can we please get weight and length measurements of the birds in NOCTs for future videos?
I think many books about ornithology have to be rewritten by now. 🤓 I saw an ad about this lens, held by a woman with thin arms and thought this was fake. But now That I know Chris can handle this lens, the ad seems correct. 💪😁
I didn't even complain once!
@@niccollsvideo and you did well. 😝😄
Learnt so much about birds!
Great job, as usual! I had the 300mm pf at one time, and only once (or twice) did I see in the image what I THOUGHT was a fresnel outline. Could have been hallucinating. Regardless, the size and weight was impressive. So... what am I missing? Why aren't all the lens guys jumping on the pf bandwagon? What's wrong with it? Halos, bokeh, fringing? Minimum focus? Not as sharp? (looked good to me, both my past 300 and this 800). So what gives?
Nice to see the big camera companies actually improving on portability with gear like this.
I mean, you could get a whole MFT set up for half the weight and size without losing anything in image quality, but hey, to each their own...
@@FabriSlv only slow ass lenses
love you guys
Owning the 800 5.6, I opted to order this via NPS and trade it in. Very excited. Great video, only complaint is way too much metric :)
Only 1.2 Nocts in weight? Not bad!
Chris' performance in bringing the equipment to its limits is outstanding. His performance in Bird identification is lala. His techniques shooting wildlife have leeway to be improved. :-)
Nikon has been killing it lately, being overshadowed by louder companies who throw money and trips at the reviewers. They should really start finding some better "influencers" too. Their Nikon Canada Social media is very very weak, and almost non existent . Looks amazing! I know i'll never afford it, but it looks great.
Nice video! Would you be able to do a comparesing video to 600mm F4? I have one and thinking if it worth it
what a good video and sense of humor, I liked the photo of the pelican with two turbines, the fastest pelican on earth!
Awesome Review!!!!!!!!!!!!! that piece of glass looks amazing!!!!!!!!
Is the focusing motor quiet for video applications?
It's amazing that you get to photograph an eagle that just hatched a day ago!!
lol lens boy! I love watching you guys! + the great info
Thanks for the tip on pronouncing "phase fresnel". :-) As to the lens, I'm afraid I'll have to stick with my crappy old 500pf + FTZII.
Super amazing you were able to photograph that rarest of Alberta birds, the lesser ostrich. You even found a flamingous mallardus. Quite impressive 😜
First time I got early to a DPReview video 🙌😂
Nice preview, thanks! Appreciate the jokes, too. As for the lens, as a lover of long focal lengths, it's tempting. However, I don't have a Z body, and I bet this thing will be out of stock for years. When shooting wildlife, I'll typically hike around for miles. I know this is the "small and light" version of an 800mm, but it looks like it'd still be cumbersome. I bet ya start feeling that weight after a short walk. I just don't know about this one. Maybe someday. My 500PF is an excellent wildlife lens, and with 45MPs, I can crop down to an 800mm FOV very easily, and still have a reasonably-sized image.
Well when i get my Z9 i'll order me upon of these. I'll have to figure out of the 500PF will be up for sale or not.
Great Review and amazing Lens! Great alternative for those who use FF Z. But The more I see the long ff lenses more I value MFT alternatives. Of course the Z9 is more capable than the OM1 in many ways. But there are other aspects very favorable to MFT for many photographers, specifically those who work in regions with more natural light. The combination OM1 + 150-400mm F4.5 TC1.25 is very difficult to be overcome! And it costs and weighs much less!
True but the downside being you can't get the same subject isolation which can be nice.
It's also an f/9 full frame equivalent lens. For that, it's very overpriced.
Yeah, f9 equiv. with 20ish mp cameras lol.
@@WestVirginiaWildlife you mean f9 DoF equivalent! Advantage! But f4.5 continues to be f4.5.
@@youknowwho9247 No! It is a f4.5! DoF is f9 equivalent, and that is a ADVANTAGE for Wildlife photography. It is very inexpensive! This lens is a 💎
Well its ordered now its just to sit and wait :) Good and fun video.
I'm dying waiting for this lens. I'm glad they announced the price point when they did because I was about to purchase a 500 pf. Even being able to afford the more expensive lenses with what I'm getting for my work right now I can't justify paying $15,000 for a lens the most 6K is a chunk it's more than worth it for where I live p
The things I would do to pair this with my Z9.
So Jordan, was your filming experience with the Z9 a memorable and satisfying time?
I want to know as well.
This was my first episode shot on a production Z9, I want to spend more time with it before making any definitive statements. I will say that it lined up with my experience with the pre-production unit, which is to say, excellent.
@@thatjordandrake thanks Jordan, I look forward to your more in-depth review.
As nice as it probably is, I'd honestly feel really self conscious lumping a lens that size about. It looks ridiculously big 😀
As a Frenchman I can certify that your pronunciation of Fresnel is spot on!
what lenses was used to shot this video ?
Great preview, great laughs lol that bird looks like it likes jet fuel
I love your humor, reviews are the best. although the scene of play with 3.5 kilos gear with the words "it's so light" was difficult for me non-shooting-wildlife xD
Just think using this on a crop sensor camera with a 2x extender. It would be great for portraits.
Solid lens, but I would like to see a mirrorless version of the 200-500mm f/5.6. Maybe even a Nikon version of Sony's 200-600mm f/6.3. Also, that bald eagle was soooo majestic ;)
It's (200-600mm) on the Nikon roadmap. I think it's likely coming in 2023.
Would buy this if I had a nikon system
Nice! 😀
We have quite a few of those flamingos here in FL. 🤣
It was almost mind blowing seeing Flamingos turn green and bald eagles shrink because it's so cold in Canada - I loved the Pelican!!! As I was watching my latest online ornithology class (it's from the same guys who brought us "Hidden Satanic symbols in Bob Ross paintings" - don't get me started but those happy little trees and their happy little accidents... oh boy...don't ask...), I have to admit, that Chris was wrong about the deer - it is indeed a big and furry thing and the un-schooled eye can misinterpret it ... The Cold has the opposite effect on Black-Capped Chickadees: on very very rare circumstances, it makes the little bird pop into some larger furry-thingy. Experiencing this, is like spotting an Unicorn covered with deer furr 😅
And here I had no idea flamingos were in Canada (frozen wastelands)!!!!!
Now all we have to hope for is Nikon actually shipping any of these lenses to Canada (mine's on order). As a NON (and dedicatedly so) birder who photographs birds, the bird naming in this video was especially hilarious :)
I need to try this on cropped body Z50 for moon shots 🌓
Just curious that if we are using the z 100-400 f/4.5-5.6 with the Z teleconverter TC-2.0x VS z 800mmm. The cost would be half, but how about the quality?
You’d be at f11 with the 2x tele combo which is really limiting. Sharpness wouldn’t be close.
Can only imagine the bird jokes that didn’t make the final edit
I believe the lens boy is called 2nd AC
Nikon, please create more lenses for the aps-c Z mount. I don't want to use the mount adapter
Wonder how this lens compare with Canon RF 800 f5.6. In the price and weight department, Nikon wins. This is a great lens with great reach and great price. Come on, Canon. Your 800 F5.6 is $17,000.
I think you misidentified the Canadian Cobra Chicken early on there.
Based on this trial balloon, I see a high budget movie "lens boy". Jordan main character, a shy obedient aspiring movie nnn, while carrying the lenses of the ruthless pond photographer. Insert a beautiful female lead character, to draw out the brawns and redeem the lens boy into an accomplished nnn. Who would be your director of choice?
One of the Andersons. Either PT or Wes.
Wow, we went from high canadian budget, right into big budget with those directors. But you wanted the best, you get the best. It means we have to change the main actor when he is transformed from a thick glassed, pale ghost into a tanned, hunk of a dolph lundgren. We round off with the hero transformed, recognizing the pond in himself and starts photographing still water surfaces, as an equal beside his old zen master. That is the twist.
'Pre-production' is a real cop-out in my opinion. By this point in a lens' development lifecycle the optics will be locked down. 'Pre-production' is a sneaky technique that all brands use to have a caveat placed around any potential shortcomings.
300mm F4, 500mm F5.6 and 800mm F6.3. The new PF Holy Trinity?!
It was sir,a PELIPLANE,learn your wildlife. Ordered mine this morning,bets on whether my Z9 or this lense arrives first.
The idea that Nikon is releasing an 800mm Prime for $6.5K is bonkers.
As an American, that bald eagle was goddamn MAJESTIC. Also, how much does a Lens Boy cost?
I'll make it easy Chris, all birds are penguins unless they are penguins, then they are lunch. Ornithology, so easy.
great stuff coming from the Nikon camp, but too bad it takes sooooooo long for them to get their products out
6k, what a price