Remco Evenepoel DROPS His Own Teammates in Time Trial | Vuelta a España 2022 Stage 1
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Very nice move from TJV to give Robert Gesink the Maillot Rojo to honor his loyalty of all the years he has been in the team. :)
I was thinking the same
18 years at the team!!! absolutely deserved.
TJV been doing nice things lately!!! They are the team to be beaten!
That's probably why TJV is doing so good rn. Everyone shall not be jealous xD
When the stars take care of their teammates…
This is the essence of the sport, it’s both team and technique oriented. Also, in TTT ‘s we see every single rider using the bike as it is intended to be used, flat out! As opposed to the awkward sight of so many riders way out of GC contention in grand tours riding the TT on a super hopped up TT bike as a recovery day so they can race well or help protect their GC rider in the following stages. So yeah bring back the TTT and keep it.
Problem is benefits the big rich teams
TTT's have a huge problem in that they introduce big time gaps between teams and these gaps are often insurmountable for any GC contenders in the teams that are behind and so the GC hopes of that team are over from just one stage. This was a short TTT and still resulted in gaps over over a minute for some teams like EF and 40+sec for Bora so their GC hopes are already severely damaged. In longer TTT's as have been used in the past (40-60km) the time gaps ended up being 4-5 minutes. So hypothetically if it had been a 40km TTT and Bora had ended up 4 min behind TJV then Jai Hindley might as well go home. Yes they are great to watch but IMO are not what a GT is all about.
I love TTTs as well and love them to be the opener of a GT. Dont make them too long else the differences will be too big, but its such a beautiful discipline.
@@epincion but that’s cycling. TTT is not just about being rich, sure, you can afford more specialists but there is so much to be gained with proper strategy, training and getting the details right. Also, the simple thing of being a unit rather than just a bunch of cyclists makes a big difference. While I understand the concern, cycling is a team sport and TTT is no different to having multiple mountain specialists in a mountain stage.
@@riquelmeone Disagree. The typical GT is a mix of flat/hilly sprint stages and mountain stages (used to be at 8-10 out of the 21 flat/hilly stages but increasingly nowadays only 4-5 'sprint stages'), so if you are a WT team that is aiming at winning the GC or even just getting a top 5 finish then you need to have team built on a core of climbers. The GC contender himself needs to be an excellent climber, a good sprinter and a good ITT rider. But If you have a TTT in a GT then it will be just one stage, and (especially if a longer distance ) it will result in a big spread of times between teams and the smaller less well funded teams who have with a potential top 5 even only a top 10 GC rider on their roster but who cannot afford the best riders, best equipment, best training camps and lots of wind tunnel use will find there GC rider is now several minutes behind. We saw this in action yesterday - where a number of teams with a GC contender ended up over 1 minute back from the top three and IMO will never claw that time back over the rest of the race.
i'm new to cycling and these breakdowns are brilliant. my knowledge of tactics etc is pretty limited at this point so watching your channel gives me a much greater insight. thank you!
so, which cyclist are u supporting as a new fan of the sport ^^?
Well you’ve found an exceptionally good commentator so you’re lucky!
@@tommytommy7535 i like remco and WvA's style, also have a soft spot for a lot of the british riders because i am british, cav particularly
It has to be hell being behind Remco in a TTT. Huge motor and almost no draft (Julian A). Having coached TTTs and team pursuit, it’s really hard to plan for a technical course. Lots of strategy here, not the least of which is how to save your GC legs. Wish the TTT was still in the Olympics.
No it was not the loser, on the last km didnt pull to drop the mates no the final (see the replay), nice guy :/
Fabian Cancellara once lead the whole TTT and he lost every teammate but 3.
@@ruiteixeira1594 Almeida fanboy still mad about Remco.
@@ruiteixeira1594 go watch football or fix your horrible economy.
@@apolloniusbeitsman5444 not Almeida that drops his mates, dont simp.
Howling at "Froglic' 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ah, yes. Froglic. Truly his most powerful incarnation.
So cool and honoured to have this in my home town, and aTTT wich are rare these days. The past few days have been a blast! Bring it on, great content as always!
"Froglic" I absolutely love that name for when Roglic has a green yersey😂
Gotta protect GC Kuss
At all costs
tea time trial looks so epic! come on wee need more of this!
Nah. We need more lunch time trials
Looks like a nice summer day in Holland!
Hey no matter whose side you're rooting for it's gonna be a packed race.
Appreciate the explanations. It helps to understand the tactics. Thanks!
"I hope he wears yellow arm warmers with the green jersey so it looks like an abomination." hahahahaha
Awesome commentary. You make a time trial interesting
Amazing recap. Thank you.
You've nearly ended me with "Froglic". Great upload again. Thx
Ah so glad the special vitamins are still going strong...
You know that phattt 2k bonus just hit for a jumbo win 😍
Looking forward to Froglic with yellow arm-warmers :-D
Ineos should switch to the pink kit that bigham wore for the hour record. Clearly the most aerodynamic color.
*cries in EF*
Funny and informative analysis -- go LR!
Thank you for awesome 👏 content
You can see TJV had done so much more work for this TTT than the other teams. Or at least were much smarter than the rest !
Dude I laughed out loud during some of your commentary, keep up the great vid!
Great insights.
What was interesting for me is how commentators consistently were mentioning the time of the fourth rider would be taken. Despite rules/regulations saying 5, they said that supposedly the riders were informed at a briefing that it was 4...
I did not know that. Due to that commentary, I thought it was 4...
The Belgian commentator on RTBF always said it was 5
Don't understand why teamtrials are so rare These Days! Says a Lot of the capabelity Of working together as a (surprice) team. What is essentiel for a riders succes as Individuel. Beautifull and fasinating.
Because at the tour french riders use to lose 1-2 min in them all the time. There good to watch but it's not really fair to the poor teams going for GC
@@alexnewton7793 I have the impression, that The last 4-5 years IT is getting Better for French teams with their training metods An opening Up for Foreign riders. Poor teams Will never win GC anyway.
@@alexnewton7793 it doesnt need to be fair, it has never been fair, different teams have different advantages in different sittuations, different riders differ in capability. Its the beauty of it.
@@benjaminurzua8100 I do get where your coming from but if we look at the tour, the top 3 riders would more than likely of been the top 3 teams already. When we want podium battles we don't need riders like Bardet losing another minute in tt
Friendship ended with NAIROMAN Now FROGLIC is my best friend
Bro every champ in every sport is juiced. Don't be so flakey and naive. Back who you want vs who society says you should. Inner peace awaits those who do.
@@durianriders REMCO BABY
@@durianriders i think his comment was for people with an IQ above 60
Very ironic what Gesink got red jersey on his last GT. He coulda get golden jersey in 2009 without crashes, but Bala takes that vuelta who also as Robert doing now his last GT. Hopefully Bala will take his stage somewhere like 2x Viviero.
Not his last GT though. He told Dutch tv last night he’ll continue for another year.
Good day for TJV. You really got me on FROGLIC, LR?! 🚴♂🐸
Great hola chicos!
"I hope he wears yellow sleeves with the green jersey, so he looks like an abomination" LOL
LETS GOOOO CLASSICS LR IS GOATED
Good that TTT makes the strongest team control the peloton going forward.
Agreed, although it does penalize good riders on bad teams. I prefer the perfunctory prologue ITT. The TTT does help explain to noobs why cycling is a team sport.
This timetrial is nearly identical to 2019 TTT... shows how far the 3 teams are ahead of everyone else when it comes to setup
Froglic lol. Excellent video.
Green Roglic = Froglic, Nice one 😂
LR I heard the English commentators talking about that since they shortened the GT teams from 9 to 8 riders the minimum you have to finish in the TTT is 4 guys, not 5. They also said the DS's knew that before the race started. It's worth to see the updated rules about this
Thé UCI rules leave it open for race-specific regulations. The Vuelta 2022 technical regs says 5th rider
@@omarbdrums I thought that as well but when I heard the comentators it threw me off. Ty for the answer
I like to see this , all riders hate this diciple of cyclingraces. This is X kilometers riding on 95% of youre maximum speedlimit. Afther remco's accident( falling in that cliff ) he is going back to his old condition he used to have. Remco is a born talented cycler like pogacar. And I look out to see them both fighting it out in the tour of 2025 . Thanks Laterne rouge for posting this nice vid.
Would you consider clipping the pre Vuelta podcast and post the stage breakdown for each stage on your clips channel before the stages?
The pod on YT has time stamps for each stage! ❤️
Only in NL: In Amsterdam, about 20km west, it was dry and sunny all day
Look at your map. Way more than 20 km
@@casakaiser certainly, it's also 40km north. But only 20km west!
@@casakaiser From me (Ijburg) to the west part of the course, the wet part, is pretty much exactly 20km. maybe 23 if you're going to be one of 'those' people
What do you think Evenepoel's final place in the general classification will be? He has told the Belgian press he'll be very happy with a top 10 finish while international press seems to expect him to get top 5 or even top 3.
Second at worst
I think he's gonna crack sometime, hope I'm wrong
@@tugabooga in the Giro Evenepoel had a smalller Endurance base. This Year he has all ready 25.000 km in training and races. And his W/kg this Year is extreme High. So I don't see any reason why he can't substain a High level for 3 weeks.
@@ivodepivo21 My opinion is not based on the Giro, but on Tirreno and Suisse this year. He cracked on both and this Vuelta will be very demanding
@@tugabooga At Tirreno he was heavier and it was in cold conditions. At Suisse apparently there was a heat management mistake with him riding in an aero helmet without ventilation and likely also not enough ice. If you get taken out by the heat, you'll need some days to recover from that. It doesn't make sense for him to break like that in Suisse, after only 4 days on a profile that should suite him at least decently. The explanation given by the team here makes sense in that aspect. Since then he has been training more in the heat and QST have improved their heat management for the remainder of the season. Since he started preparing for the Vuelta (after the ardenne classics) he did 2 superb climbing performances and this Suisse debacle, where he imo wasn't even in the best shape at the very start either.
Imagine being the sign language interpreter for the host.....your hands would flap so hard with just a breeze you may fly away.
You had me at 'Froglich'
Froglich lol love it
what a beast
That wet circle made a huge difference, and then dry for Jumbo. That's just the way it is?
Yep... Cant really control the weather
I love TTTs, but prefer them on wide open roads with sweeping bends for the visual aspect. Evenpoel is very strong but I fear he'll hammer a few stage wins and then blow big time in the third week. Sounds familiar?
Hey I'm sorry, the Netherlands is just not built like that
You can't honestly tell me these cosmonaut brain buckets are faster than a normal aero helmet. Looking like Dark Helmet out there.
I also hope he wears yellow arm warmers haha
Gesink still going hard 💯👌
What happened to Froomy? He lost a lot of time in the TT, which was supposed to be one of his strength
Way past his peak. Never been the same since Dauphine crash in 2019
10 years ago maybe
@@frorton_9170 His peak was 2017-18 so awhile ago but not that far
Ineos is just bleeding riders to Jumbo. Didn’t Rohan Dennis come from Ineos as well?
INEOS is TJV's offshore dev team
Ineos is rebuilding from it's excellent but now older team and have a lot of new younger talented signings many in this team at the Vuelta and some joining next year (eg Thymen Arensman from DSM who has the potential to be Ineos's Sepp Kuss) so IMO the future looks good. TJV took three seasons to get to where they are now. All teams go through such cycles.
@@epincion Do you think they need to keep some of the older riders for the experience?
Arensman is diffenately not a new Kuss. Arensman is a complete rider, not an pure mountaingoat like Kuss. Jumbo also really wanted Arensman, but he went to Ineos. I belive Ineos showed interest before Jumbo did, but its not known yet why he chose for Ineos. Arensman is a very smart guy. Finished his study. Intentionally didnt go 100% his first 2 years at Dsm. In agreement with the team they decided that for a long career its not good for someone at 20/21 years to put all your food on a scale and be 100% focused on cycling. This year they started with his personalised plate and upped professionalism and his progress has been huge. I think he has 1 more big step to make. Ps Ineos is still an absolute top team
I have a question is it such a big deal if you drop your gc rider bc i think everyone gets the same time as the fourth rider
No, the first 5 get the time of the fifth rider. The rest gets their own finish time so if your gc rider drops he will lose time
Only if you finish in the same group. If you were dropped by your team and you finish after the 5th man, you will lose time
Remco was not about to be beaten by his teammates. It's called racing!
Just learned that Tiberi shot a cat... to test his air rifle. Tiberi be "happy" that it wasn't my cat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Evenepoel, the next Tom Boonen or Vandenbroucke, a new dope canon.
They should scrap the uci points system and just do a TTT qualification race 40 or 50 kms with a hill or two. Could even do it with bigger teams
GC is over, Froglic never loses 🐸
Remco Eeeeeeevenepoel
I find it funny people talking so much about remco. He never even finished a grand tour.
4th rider counts.
this is why i don't buy remco, he doesn't care about his teammates.
When you're in a TT position with a TT helmet your field of vision and hearing is significantly reduced. And you definitely will have no idea if a teammate loses your wheel. Plus everyone is at their limit, so with the finish being somewhat technical and Remco being so aero that he provides almost zero draft it's really no surprise he dropped his teammates at the end. In other words, not his fault.
I disagree - IMO the reason he went to the front near the end and pulled hard was that he was trying to speed up his team as he knew that they were very close to the time of Ineos. In the end QS was just 1 sec behind. Had QS beaten Ineos Remco would have been in the Maillot Blanc and not Hayter. Unfortunately his small size and position on the bike is so good that he does not draft the rider behind and the team lost his wheel. It was a very reasonable action on his side.
Boa sorte para todos os ciclistas Vamos ver como Remco se aguenta três semanas. Por mim, Força João Almeida 💪 Abraço desde Aveiro Portugal 🇵🇹
Boas tuga, se o remco não estourar até ao fim da volta vou ficar surpreendido
Froglic 💚
Muchos
gracias
remco needs to join jumbo visma he can really excel there
Matthew Lee. Remco is not the right person for Jumbo Visma. It has to do with mentality. Men like Wout van Aert but also others in Team Jumbo Visma are willing to work for each other. What Jumbo Visma did with Robert Geesink would never happen in Quick Step-Alpha Vinyl. In Quick Step-Alpha Vinyl they would kill each other in the last kilometer to get the red jersey.🤣🤣🤣
Is there a good explanation for why riders are pointing their knees into turns in low grip conditions like it's motogp? Wouldn't it be safer to keep the inside knee tucked in for better centre of gravity over the tire contact area like MTB and other bike/moto racing where grip is a concern.
More aesthetically pleasing ;)
i have no idea why there is so much hype about Remco. If it was backed by some consistent results in relevant races, then i´d understand. With this year´s Vuelta profile, he will be happy for top 5-8....
Relevant races? You've seen LBL or classica san sebastian?
@@briangoossens1519 that is exactly what i mean, 1 day races... Vuelta has 3 weeks and some of those mountain stages are just brutal this year. i see Remco goin for 3-4 stage wins, but no chance in hell for GC...
@@filipt.585 we will have to see as he's never done a grand tour with a decent preparation. He's definitely made some mistakes in the Tirreno and Tour of Suisse which gives the perception he can't handle 3 weeks or steep climbs, but then he was excellent in Basque country. Personally I think he is more of TT/one day specialist but he's still young and I've seen worse climbers than him win grand tours! I think the main thing is he needs to mature and spare his energy if he wants to be a GC winner.
"No one" thought Pogacar could beat Roglic in TDF2020 because it was his first TDF
Why did Arkea only start seven riders?
Quintana dropped out before the start and they didn't replace him
@@MDP1702 what I wanted to see Quintana race. I love his face idk why lol
Ola,Remco?😂Remco 3 weaks tours? How can you have Remco or podium?He never show us.Remco will be out of 10
Cutting the back off Remco's helmet made all the difference
Hola 👋
oke we know now who will win the vuelta, the man who beats remco will win the vuelta ... Remco is the most talented belgium tour rider in 55 years afther eddy merckx , and Wout is the best 1 day racer of the world ... However I think wout could ride a top 10 place in a big tour. Without Wout vingegard PROBABLY wouldend have won the tour the france . Wout had to bring him several times back to the front of the race. So Jumbo visma kiss youre 2 hands you have Wout in youre team !!!!!!!!!
Horrible from Bora to lose 40+ seconds
It looks like Jai is out of the running for the victory after the first stage.
@@starkparker16 You do know 40 seconds isn't going to decide a 85 hour race, right?
@@andrasszabo1570 it happens all the time. Jai only won the Giro by 78 seconds.
fRoGLIch
Hola
I'm not watching 1.5hrs vuelta preview. Where the heck are Vingegaard and Pogacar? Did they decide to cut roglic some slack or what?
They're getting some rest after the Tour de France
Vingegaard was never scheduled for the Vuelta this year and Pogacar clearly needed the rest after the TdF (and Jonas most likely also).
@@MDP1702 primoz going for 3 crown
@@Slow.Smooth You mean 4, right?
Froglic for the sprint tomorrow, although he might look like an abomination he is taking that green jersey home, again.
Froglic 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Roglic. Remco and Hindley are going to destroy Carapaz, a rider that has only win a race in his whole life.
Only won one race? He won the Giro, he made it to the podium in ALL 3 grand tours, he won gold at the olympics, and some smaller stage races like Tour de Suisse. Im a fan of Hindley, but his palmares is way less impressive than Carapaz's. And Remco will get destroyed in the 3rd week.
Remco will never win a grand tour
Lol..Funny on Chris Horners channel I said Remco would out race his team and screw them!! He is so predictable!! He will not win a big stage race riding the team into the dirt!! He is still to immature and self-centered to win a big one!!
Don’t forget Chris Horner won a grand tour at 42 drug free...
@@benjibodhranboy i know that is completely Awsome!! As a old man myself i loved watching him kick the young guys butts!!! Chris is one of my all time favorite riders next to Greg!!! 2 guys that did it drug free!!! I dought in my book no one at that age will ever win a Grand tour again at that age!! And i have been watching racing since 84!!
Nice prediction, genius!
bala said to his teammates to slow down to get a stage win later #movistarbigbraintactics
JV proving again what a well-drilled Team they are! Congrats. Aussies all doing well though, which is great to see. Ha ha 😊 But a pity about the variable conditions.... Still, it's an outdoor event, so that happens. A long way to go yet. M 🦘🏏😎