Pro Cyclists Get Angry about Half Wheeling Too | Vuelta a España 2022 Stage 2
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Lanterne Rouge presents highlights of Stage 2 of Vuelta a España 2022.
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It was Jasha with the hand gestures 😂 Cavagna making us ride waaayy too hard
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its crazy how much better this is than other summarys from gcn or sth
Agreed, Patrick is da Bomb!
The only GCN I look at are older tech vids. I liked Simon.
Butterfly
To be fair, Chris Horner’s butterfly effect is pretty good just a bit too long
@@luisbretonv yeah shorter than watching it but all the details. Road racing is boring, especially flat days. To be honest, I can’t understand wtf these guys are saying.
I’d be amazed if Dan McLay survives the Vuelta without being disqualified. Within the space of the final kilometre he committed a shoulder charge, an elbow push and then a head charge after the finish line to top it off 😂
Yeah, I saw that headbutt after the finish (not shown in this video) and nobody seems to be making a big deal about it. Usually something like that earns a relegation.
Tell me that you watched Merlier come into to McLay and box McLay between himself and Bennet. McLay held his ground and they drifted wide around the corner which opened the place on Ackermann’s wheel for Bennet.
Is he like from dsm? Or the guy in yellow
@@LittleBU96 Yellow
I'm guessing you've never been in a high level bunch sprint @Michael richards
4:34 look at Alaphilippe till 4:59 3 times lucky
jeeeeeezus man so hectic. good reflexes from Jala
I am so glad i am here for this weekend. The crowds are absolute nuts. We had dutch people going mad everywhere, lots of irish people aswell. And everyone treated each other nicely. (Except for just behind the finish line, you had literally no breathing space, bu big crowds are great right?) This is cycling at its best.
damn Teunissen came from really far back and still got fourth lmao. also wtf this van poppel guy is actually bonkers tho, what a leadout! him and Laporte are the top leadout guys right now for me.
The splits at the end were caused because of a crash at about 600 meters before the finish. I was actually watching at that exact point and you can see an intermache rider flipping over his bike at 5.36 minutes just at the bottom of the frame.
Yeah, his legs trailing as the view changes and then he flips over. Would never have spotted that.
Yes that was Thijsen the young Belgien sprinter who won a sprint stage in the latest Tour of Poland. Sadly I did play Thijsen as a joker in most of my Vuelta pools. D.Impey was also part of that crash by the way. I hope he will recover because the first stage in the Basque Country is really made for him.
Why weren't they given the same time if the crash happened in the last 3km?
@@andylovell1990 i think the riders that were part of the crash were given the same time. But it is a little weird in the end result because some people who were dropped before the 3k mark finished before the riders im the crash so they have a time penalty and than somebody who finised later doesn't. So for example Thijssen came 177th at 0.00 from the winner and De Marchi came 173rd at 2.22
Holy crap Teunissen was homing in like a cruise missile at the end there
Wow, you're right about his closing speed in the last 100m. It looked like everyone else was in slow motion. He made Bennett look slow, and that's not easy If TJV had a lead-out man for him, he could do some damage. But I get it, all in for Primoz is a better plan
Jesus he was flying down the shoot that would have been a amazing steal if he won lol
Thx LR. Watched the race as usual and could hardly wait for your recap as usual 🙃🙏
Would've loved to see the jersey stay on the back of Gesink for another day or two, such the dedicated veteran rider and all around good guy that he is, but nice to see TJV stay in red. Good job Lantern Rouge!
Wouldn't be surprised if JV is trying to let as many dutch riders as possible riding in the red these first few days. Afterall with the time gap on everyone else, why not? Maybe Oomen tomorrow? Could ofcourse also just have been Teunissen taking the opportunity.
I am Dutch and Gesink said if Roglic was safe that is what he cares about mostly. Teunissen could go for his own success if Roglic was safe in the last 2 km said the team to him
Thanks LR - loved the great crowds of spectators
100% carapaz did the safest move by getting out of a precarious spot by hitting the gap and finding space, and if you aren’t at the front at 3k you risk gaps in addition to crashes
Quest Tv and Euro sport commentary completely ignored the hand gestures argument. I was wondering what it was all about. Thanks for covering
4:50 look at the guy in white in the middle of the rear, he gets cut off once and almost crashes, then 5 seconds again the same thing happens to him
Alaphilippe
Came to point these near disasters out as well. If this is a non-WT level race the whole bunch is getting taken out because Alaphillipe goes down.
I am a bit miffed that no action from the fight for the mountain classification was shown. No less than 60m elevation, and a winner who's name is literally translated as 'from the mountain'.
Excellent synopsis and first class observations and commentary! Thanks!
I don't get this fuss about half-wheeling. It's the freaking race, if someone wants to go faster, he goes faster. It's not friendly chill ride.
peloton politics. make too many enemies and its going to be a bad 3 weeks.
Would Pedersen win more of these faster sprints if he was a bit more aero? He probably has the best 20 second ish power in the bunch but his frame looks pretty large in the drops, this finish as example. Uphill drags he beasts people usually, where draft is less useful.
Bravo LR, excellent as always
Quite strange that Teunissen was sprinting when prior to the stage he said that he was not going to sprint and was only here to support Roglic on the flatter stages and very explicitly stated that they shouldn't expect him in red.
He got the ok if Roglic was delivered safely into the 3 km
I guess he got the Wout treatment "if Roglič is safe, you can go". Although it is a bit strange looking at the interviews for sure.
And that is not strange at all, if you follow cycling long enough you will know that they will ALWAYS do the opposite of what they are telling in front of a tv camera, or in any press release for that matter. (After the race Teunissen said that this was already discussed at the team meeting before today's stage. He will of course never say such thing before a race does start, therefore the answer he gave the Dutch and Belgian press before the stage. But that's normal, all cyclists do this. So next time you hear a rider say something, do know that he will probably do the opposite. (I'm do only follow cycling since 1974/75 ✌)
Rough sprint with a lot of argy-bargy. Makes me so tense. I watch anyway, lol, but geesh. The hand gestures/discussion-saw that and wondered. Love the clips and perspectives LR gives! Thanks!
Really incisive ‘commentalysis’. Thoroughly enjoyable
first Jumbo over the line would get the leader jersey today even if all in same time.
why is Morkov not considered the best leadout in the world anymore? I know he's got a down year but both Cav and Jakobsen won a Grand Tour stage with him leading out...
Exactly, because he hs had a bad year
Also because of his age/declining phisicall abilities.
@@kraknoix0075 well as a leadout man if you consider both his sprinters won from behind him, you can hardly consider that a bad year. Compared to the heights he used to go, it is a down year, but most leadouts in the peloton can only dream of having of their sprinters win a stage thanks to them.
Honestly, LR doesn't like Sam Bennett & tends to find ways to discredit him, that could be the reason. I remember he used to completely overshadow Bennett's sprints at QS by focusing entirely on Morkov
@@eoinsmith1996 If you look at the week Van Poppel had i dont See the Argument for anyone else. Just look at the European Championsship and stage 2 + 3 of the Vuelta.
damn dat was the best launch of the year crazy last km
At 3.5k Carapaz had a clean line up the left hand side. Going to the front seemed to make good sense, safe. Ineos’ continuing to pace beyond 3k, beneath the overpass, was surprising. You will sometimes see a squad get nervous through a tunnel and want to stay out front in that circumstance, but here on the open road…odd.
It makes sense on a sprint stage, everyone is ramping up so don't coast, simply stay at the same pace until you are swamped and then coast.
@@marcfarrelly5944 Yeah, treat it like a track sprint, you don't just stop pedalling (because you can't with a fixed wheel), you slowly wind down.
Bike exchange was terrible to watch also, none left for Groves at 1km from the finish.
Wholesome interview by Bennet!
Thanks for the content
Love seeing Julian back on the bike. No grand tour is the same if he's not riding.
Danny van Poppel is too good
Best highlights on YT
4:34 look at how Alaphillipe almost crashed (multiple times) during the helicopter shot
shout out to the casual group rides along coro
Respect to Jumbo for bringing Tuneissen (sp) even though he is leaving. Cough DSM cough.
Probably easier to be magnanimous when you have a horse like DVB coming in to replace him
At 4:51, Alaphilippe almost gets chopped twice by guys moving up the inside.
He is usually the one doing the chopping, he has one of the most erratic riding styles in the tour.
hahaha loved the coro drive reference
Shoutout to Richmond Park
Finally, a Bennett win in a Grand Tour.
what a cool fucking leadout in such a sorta chaotic position fight
I would simply not be in a bad position
LR I love your chanol I love the way you speak and describe the race , sometimes a little funny too , I like a lot Thanks a bunch Best wishes from Norway 🇧🇻😉🇧🇻😚🇧🇻🤗🇧🇻😘🇧🇻 Viva La Vuelta Española, for Alejandro Valverde have fun in this race, I will miss you bebe😘😘😘 🇪🇸🐂🇪🇸🐂🇪🇸🐂🇪🇸🐂🇪🇸
Hills in Holland 😄
Mads P clearly missed Stuyen who had to Help Skjelmose in Denmark Tour. Didn't Work. Laporte won last stage and overall. Don't think Remco can Pull an overall Victory out here, got to entertaning to wacht. 😜🔝❤️
Usually I thought half-wheeling was the problem for safety concern and not being so pushy to the person in front (usually in a tight single file/double line rotation). However, in this case, the three trains are far apart from each other, so to some extent, they ride their own pace...Why were Bahrain getting mad? Thanks for clarification.
I still don't understand why the Bahrain rider was mad. Maybe I don't know what half-wheeling is
He didn’t want Quickstep increasing the pace. Bahrain preferred to stay level with the other teams on the front at a lower speed. As Quickstep accelerated forward they’d have to match their pace.
@@rosscads I get that but QS doesn’t infiltrate Bahrain’s train or mess with it by any mean, so if QS wants and is capable to up the tempo, they are free and fair to do so in a safe manner imo. It could be their race tactic and what not so I just can’t understand why it is making Bahrain mad, unless Bahrain felt toasted and just raged out of desperation...Or is it some etiquette involved that I am unaware of?
weak and slow BAH getting mad if other teams are faster ;)
@@kv8824 I have the same question. If one team wants to go faster then the other teams need to deal with that. Was he just being upset for no reason
I think there might have been a 'bah fongu!'' in there
Personally, I really dislike sprint stages because of the danger of crashes. I know you can’t treat these guys with silk gloves, but to lose a GC chance due to all the chaos is crazy. On the podcast you spoke about QS leading Remco while Rog chilled 40 riders back. If JV has such a strong team, I’d take Rog to the front like Remco until final km then coast.
So quickstep was in front and then suddenly no where
yeh probably because Cavagna was going balls-out at 10km, burning everyone in his team and pissing off the rest of the peloton
someone explain to me why Alpecin chases EVERY break so hard. like why? most of the time they dont have anything to gain at all
Because they have the fastest sprinter (On paper) in this years Vuelta. Merlier is top favourite by all bookmakers. Merlier did of course already win stages at the Giro and Tour also, and is the current Belgian champion. But I do fully agree that it was not necessary to chase like that at 100km from the finish, that was just stupid and dumb, and the reason why he did have no leadout at the finish anymore.
@@swissbiggy yes shouldn't they focus more on having an actual leadout/being in decent position. Now they just wasted energy catching the break 50km's early
Maybe they wanted their TV time while everyone is still looking pretty? Gotta make the sponsors happy!
Froglič lmaooooo
Kermit the “Froglič” 🐸 🚴
Richmond Park? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Has Sam’s accent gotten more Irish?
been spending too much time in the pub with Sean Kelly
If ever a man deserved a spring stage. Gowan Sammy ye big ledge ye!! Yup!!
I thought this was meant to be the VUELTA ESPANA!!!!!!
It’s the Hollandse pannenkoek!
Groves will go top 3 at some point.
Can someone please explain this to me? What right does one team have to tell another team they are riding too hard? Its a race isnt it? Obviously Im a bit new to pro cycling.
Is to keep the harmony in the peloton.
They don't, period
He's been as useful as a crusty sock this year so he was due.
Jesus you see Groves losing all his momentum and already sprinting with like 500m to go! 😂
He was really flying there for a bit.. just so far back it didn't matter.
Always Mov having a cry
@1:55 What's Emma Norsgaard doing here?
So it looks like Ahh Gibbily Aahhh mcfloggeted Wonk Diddle-o and then committed the snurrlffle manoeuvre from the lead ouoooorengo, leaving the road clear for OobobQue to take the greffil. Nice worrrk.
Tiktok Italian gesture....
It’s always the slow riders that complain about half wheeling. Fall back if you can’t keep up.
More dangerous in position
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Pancake flat? Come on, try our Amerongse Berg yourself!
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So I just googled what half wheeling is. And I got to ask, why would a professional cycler care about this, like at all? :P
Stop talking about how fkin flat the course is. For heaven's sake, it's HOLLAND!
LOVE Holland Great for Cycling
even the commentary sounds bored
This was totally brilliant analysis! 👍😁 The script almost writes itself - those hand gestures are so clear! 👀 Looking forward to the next episode in this soap opera on wheels.... 🤣 M 🦘🏏😎