Lightning Bolt Action Redefined | Metal Gear Rising Retrospective
Time to dig into one of Platinum’s strangest video games, their collaboration with Kojima Productions on Metal Gear Rising.
Special thanks to Millz, who gave me footage from one of inprogress Combo MAD videos for the visuals and was a great source of insight on the gameplay.
Go check out his channel for DMC/MGR style videos and tips on advanced tech.
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KojiPro and the 'frustrating' process of handing Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance to Platinum Games
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Kojima on Metal Gear Rising: 'I didn't think we'd have it go this well'
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Interview: The TRUTH Behind Rising
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Platinum thought offer to make Metal Gear Rising was a Joke
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Platinum Acknowledges "mixed" Reaction to Metal Gear Rising Reveal
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Kojima explains Metal Gear Rising switch to Platinum
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The Peculiar Origin of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance’s heavy-metal sound (interview)
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Fuck me, as I'm re-watching it after the upload to check that KZhead didn't mess anything up, I only just now realized my slip up of saying "Lightning Speed Action" and not "Lightning Bolt Action" at 5:32. I went over that edit about 5 times and some how never noticed that!
how dare u ;
Hey I don’t know if it’s just me but at around 11:36 it sounds like you started talking into a cup. Is anyone else hearing that?
@@z-nyxkibishidesu5380 Yeah, I noticed that in the final edit, I think there was something wrong with the export in Audition, but couldn't do much to fix it unfortunately outside of re-recording and re-editing the entire section :/
I'm curious to know how you didn't notice that at 11:43 you sound like you're speaking into a can.
Foxcade I skipped ahead to later in the video and it sounds fine but I figured you’d wanna know.
This game's soundtrack made me harden in response to musical trauma.
Making the mother of all genres here Jack, can't listen to every soundtrack
That can go both ways
@Drake Barnes I am not one of these shitty rappers... I'll make synthwaves great again!!!
It made all our Metal Gears Solid 😏
@@filipvadas7602 Raiden, turn off ur Pornhub account right now
sometimes it really do have to be this way
They do think it be this way, but it do.
Wait you watch foxcade too
Heyya Buns. Love the streams!
I wonder if this is for people who don't know shit about this game
I read that in your voice
The way I've interpreted the Jack the Ripper storyline is that Raiden, in his adult career as a soldier, has always had a level of bloodthirst and desire to kill. However, modern ideals and his own desire to deliver justice caused him to reject that bloodthirst, with him coping with it by seeing himself as a sort of "warrior of justice," where he unconsciously uses his ideals as an excuse to fight. Just before the Monsoon fight the Winds of Destruction project theoretical thoughts to Raiden in order to basically tear apart this excuse and leave him with the truth that he's not fighting for justice, but because he likes fighting. Raiden's character arc during the talk with Monsoon is him admitting that yeah, he likes to kill... but that doesn't mean he has to be evil. He realizes that he's totally bloodthirsty, but he can still deliver justice while satisfying that urge, he just needs to channel it in the right direction. In other words, he takes an unhealthy desire and puts it to work towards a healthy goal. As one shitpost I saw put it: Raiden: Okay, yeah, I admit it. I like killing the weak. Monsoon: Good, you admit you're a killer then. Raiden: Yeah, and there's no one weaker than those who prey on people who can't defend themselves! Monsoon: Wait no that's cheating.
Right, it's basically Raiden accepting the absurd and rejecting the ideas of moral nihilism.
Thats... Such an awesome way of putting it, never through of that actually, it's kind of badass (like this game wasnt badass enough)
In the sense of the plot of the story, yeah but it's also a nice parallel to the meta of gameplay. Mgs is very story driven and is a game jam packed with substance like a lot of games today and up until monsoon the game itself also acts like it. Until raiden realises parallel to the game that mgr is an action game, it's video game ass video game. Sam has already knows it and lives by it at the start of the game "you deny your weapon its purpose, it yearns to bathe in the blood of your enemies but you hold it back " is like "you're not playing games simply as a form of entertainment anymore, you act like the games you play are supposed to have deep seeded meanings when games at their core are supposed to be fun and a disconnect from the seriousness of life"
Well said 👏
That sounds interesting. But no where near as interesting as his arc in 4. Honestly that scene was so stupid because I just thought "Snake's sacrifice meant nothing, and you don't care about your family."
Barber: "what do you want today fam?" Me: "ever play Metal Gear Rising?" Barber: "Say no more" 7:36
Emmanuel Baber: "DEAD ON"
I thought that might be a scar or something so I didn’t wanna say anything
That man got the boss specialty. (Whenever you beat a boss you can cut them into a million pieces)
"Look at thid dude..." 😂
best joke!!! great job
Senator Armstrong is still one of my favourite characters in video gaming. He is so over the top and you can tell the the voice actor was having the time of his LIFE when recording the lines.
Same here. A buff, nanao machine-infused, us senator, talking about memes and making america great again. It was surreal.
he played college ball, you know
@@android19willpwn At some cushy Ivy League school!
@@rgm96x49 Try university of Texas. He could have gone pro if he didn't join the navy
@@superxdish you guys are all bat shit insane xD lmaooo
"Free will is a myth. Religion is a joke. We are all pawns, controlled by something greater: Memes. The DNA of the soul. They shape our will. They are the culture. They are everything we pass on." -Monsoon
That’s a pretty meme, exquisite
hell yeah my dude, spread the word
Just Some Guy without a Mustache “What about full of shit? Is that a meme?
Then, I used this quote and ran away with the concept in a high school graduation speech.
I mean....he's not wrong....
Never will forgot when Rules of Nature played when grabbing the Ray. Started to mash that button with a big smile on my face say "OH MY GOD THIS IS AMAZING!!!!"
and I'll never forget that moment the red sun came over paradise as I smashed Sundowner after his last shield only to next playthrough get the Uno reverse-card as I was like "Wait, why didn't the boss music show up?"
Yea but I was watching it on KZhead but still amazing af
Ill never foeget when I FINALLY BEAT SAM after an hour of tryiny
@@peynnep6483 YES ! YES ! SPLIT IT RIGHT OPEN!
@@jaredm1755 I was really struggling cause I couldn't block right cause of the description of how to do it but apparently most of the time I had to push forward and attack. Then I played that again in a year and it was much simpler :p. Now I'm just kicking ass
Small detail I noticed about the soundtrack: When you fight Sam and you make him loose his sword the vocals are turned off, leaving only the instrumental version during that phase. During the fight with Armstrong, when YOU loose your sword the same thing happens. The vocals go away, leaving only the instrumental and then the lyrics come back when you retrieve your sword. Except it's not YOUR sword, it's Sam's sword. So the exact same thing happens in both fights, the only difference being the person wielding the murasama. It's such a dumb detail but it's sooo dope.
Your pretty good
Sam's sword has a speaker in it that's playing the music
Sam’s Murasama doubles as a boom box.
@@ffffdsd he would
@@ffffdsd So that's why he keep saying "let's dance" everytime he start a fight
I've always believed that there was some hashtag deep subtext concerning Sam's 'passing of the torch' with his sword to Raiden. They kind of have reverse character arcs where at the beginning of the game, Raiden has a bunch of rules on when it is isn't ok to draw your sword whereas Sam is just looking for the next good fight and over the course of the story Sam decides to die for a cause and Raiden begins seeking out conflicts on his own terms. This is reinforced through gameplay as you go through NG+. The Muramasa is a straight upgrade to the range and damage of the lightning blade that Raiden starts the story with, which encourages the player to use Sam's weapon instead of Raiden's original 'tool of justice' on subsequent playthroughs. In this NG+ playthrough, player will also most likely be skipping all cutscenes and rushing through story beats in order to get to the next fight arena - perfectly embodying Sam's philosphy without even realizing it.
Holy shit this is big brain
Isn't it great when gameplay and themes complement each other?
y'know. i noticed it with sword changing in terms of theme/gameplay. but i never connected the skipping of cut-scenes and being a murderous psycho wanting battle. good job!
Man, this game is amazing.
oh my god
Back when I was a freshman in high school me and my friend acted out the scene with Armstrong and Raiden in the halls and one of the kids actually got into metal gear after we showed where we got the source material.
Did one of you kick the other across the hall like a ball while everyone else cheered?
High school? TRY UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS!
We’re you three struggling to Stave off all the pussy afterwards?
God damn it, why can't I have friends like this?
apco47 of course
Dmc5 showed that the high speed action story stelling is still kickin
Odalicio Júnior You might have luck with pirating, of course if you're cool with that.
@@crusader1472 what you mean i did pirate dmc5 though sadaksjdha though i id buy it later after i checked the Real tm in it
Wait the story for the game was the best out of the series?
@@user-uc9cu2lg9h no. DMC 3 was the best. This one wasn't bad though definitely a watch.
@@yaboylitty6732 I think you mean DMC3. But yes, the story in DMC5 was great, although it is slightly beaten by DMC3.
Fox: "my kowledge of music is more on the limited side" Also Fox: *gives a detailed analasys on how the music shapes and enhances the game*
He said his knowledge of music *theory* was limited; as in, what makes good music good and bland music bland. Anyone who paid attention to the game knows what he said already which is something he said himself while explaining it.
Still such an underrated game imo, that needs a sequel real bad, one that we'll never get unfortunately. A seuqel could fix all the small issues the first game had while adding more depth on top of it.
I lve been playing this again lately its so damn good. The lack of a block in place for a parry is imo the best idea that seperates good players from bad players.
The only hope for konami in metal gear is rising 2. And blade wolf a game, unless Raiden can actually develop more. Which I thought he was rather perfectly developed by the end
Yeah...the biggest issue here right now is the fucking publisher. They are just sitting on their titles and doesn't care the fans at all. Such a shame. (Metal Gear-series, Silent Hill-series, Castlevania-series etc)
@@nyuszicsib thats the thing it looks to us that they are kust sitting on their games but they arent. Konami had a bunch of pachinko machines with these titles and from what Ive read their president came from a gambling background and with their success they are financially doing good so the focus hasnt been on much console games other than collection titles of old games.
@@lindaunderling4637 the most development we can get is a prequel game that shows raidens change into a cyborg. Other than that we now just have the badass rising raiden which Im not saying is bad. I love rising and this new raiden. Im just concerned that they may make rising 2 really serious because I dont want that I want this over the top badass with metal blaring in the background. The rising sound track rivals dooms to me.
Everybody gangsta until it it's time for Jack. TO LET ER RIP!
*Metal intensifies*
BAYBLADE!!!
This game really needs a sequal. Its one of the most fun and meme-able games ever.
The memes....
@@kishiokisho42 memes, son
@@arrowup8711 MEMES JACK
@@weeby87 WHAT'S GOING ON
Nanomachins son
24:58 you make that sound like that's a bad thing. I love the story of this game, it's campy, insane, over the top. I guess I'm just a sucker for stuff like this but Armstrong was such a batshit crazy villain that i couldn't help but laugh and smile at him, especially towards the end of the game
the main story may be dumb, but there are incredibly deep and philosophical conversation in the codec. why does no ons ever talk about that? I loved those conversations so much!!!
Batshit crazy..? Don't you mean Batshit insane??
"what else is there really to say?" For starters, i would include at least a mention of how fucking well-directed the cutscenes are. The cinematography is so deliberate and powerful. Not exactly very subtle, but if you enjoy back-to-back impact shots, and shots with deliberate meaning to their staging, then MGR:R is a real powerhouse. If you don't understand what i mean, then how about this example: After Raiden has ripped out and crushed armstrong's heart, he stands amidst the flames and rubble of what he has done, with the senator laid flat on the ground, fitting perfectly within raiden's shadow. Where the story isn't very focused, and the first one-and-a-half chapters are hard to tie together, or to the prologue, i think the power of the presentation engages enough, just in the moment, for the shortcomings to be ignored. Also, one of the reasons it didn't review that well at launch: the tutorial sucked, and i think most people who got competent at the game sought out outside information about how the parry worked. I bet the metacritic score would be bumped up by a handful of points if the VR tutorial about parrying couldn't be bypassed just by attacking, and/or if Boris didn't explain a completely wrong way to parry, early in chapter 1. (go check out random people playing the game on twitch, and see if they know how to parry. First-timers will get absolutely wrecked by monsoon, because they don't have the knowledge of parrying.)
i didn't parry against monsoon at all on the first time. i just did "defensive offensive". took me 3 tries to beat him. I don't think that's a lot for a first timer (hard difficulty)
when i played the first time, i never figured it out until partway into chapter 3. until then i just played a sort of "bait and punish" style with the jump and going just outside of their attack ranges, until it just clicked
Beat Monsoon first try on Normal. It’s not that bad
@@littlemoth4956 Sorry, i should have specified that you are supposed to play the game "the right way" (Disable healthpacks, and only use them between combat). I am absolutely convinced this is the intended way to play the game. Nothing else makes sense, with the zandatsu. If you have 5x as much health as you are supposed to, yeah, i absolutely believe people will kill it in 1-2 tries. That is not to say i respect that way of playing though. If you play on hard, with healthpacks, you really should be playing on easy, without.
@@MSCDonkeyKonghonestly, that sounds more satisfying than a parry
At 34:06, about him having to relish in the killing. I think it makes perfect sense, and your initial fight with Sam at the beginning of the game sets this arc into motion. Sam observes that Raiden is denying his sword its purpose. And that he’s using it as a “tool” rather than a weapon. He’s holding back, and that’s why he was having difficulty facing someone like Sam, who embraces his bloodlust. He doesn’t give a fuck. No second guessing, no hesitation. That was Sam’s, Monsoon’s, Sundowner’s, etc. leg up on Raiden. Him coming to terms with his inherent desire WAS the resolution to that arc, imo. Sure you get the ripper mechanic right after his little self-revelation, but also, his need for violence is internalized following those events. This allows for him to just fight normally, without any mental barriers slowing him down. To me, that moment with monsoon tied it up neatly.
Ripper mode is basically Raiden cutting loose, and the damage increase combined with automatic dismemberment just clicks in perfectly.
I frequently rewatch the senator boss fight, it's perfect and aged well imo
Was good to help you on this one because the games so close to my heart, gonna watch now.
Thanks again for all the hep on this one, hope it doesn't disappoint!
my g
Jorge says it best: "Go ninja, go ninja, go ninja GO!"
33:37 I think they were trying to point out the duality of "doing the right thing". Sometimes "Doing the right thing" means you have you protect someone or something from physical threat. if that Physical threat happens to be another living, breathing human being who refuses to give up either willingly or unwillingly are you willing to terminate the threat entirely to hold true to your ideals and "defend the weak"? during the scene where Raiden's hearing the inner dialog of the other cyborgs was an attempt for the enemy to mess with him, showing him the consequences of his actions when killing another human being who isn't just mindlessly combating you but also has a sense of self preservation, doubts and the fear of death. It's kind of like how MGS3 showed you the consequences of your actions during your fight against "The Sorrow". The difference is where MGS5 would punish you for killing enemies weather it can or can't be avoided, MGSRR had Raiden Accept the fact that in order to live up to his ideals, to "defend the weak", sometimes you have to take a live, or 10, to preserve a life. For Raiden however he ended up giving into his inner-madness he'd kept bottled up inside from his ptsd and psychological torment he had to endure to help him push through his guilt and accept the reality of what he was doing.
My dude I know this is late but you need more likes, this is accurate as hell. nicely done
Hit the nail on the head for me, honestly.
As meme-y as it is, when you're fighting the Ray in the tutorial level, when you go for the finisher and RULES OF NATURE comes in, was the moment I knew I'd absolutely love the game. The music does such a dog damn good job of enhancing the setpieces, Masterfully used is the only way I can think to describe it. Games rarely get me to relate or feel anything, but I'll never forget that moment where RULES OF NATURE! starts up, I start laughing like a kid and say "Now that's fucking badass!" We go on and on about Platinum's combat systems, which is what they're known for, but I think their real strength lies in creating amazing setpieces that flow in and out of regular gameplay. It's hard to play a Platinum game and not just have a good time. They take the most over the top, cheesiest shit, turn the dial up on the cheese so far it comes right back around to being awesome.
Metal Gear Rising should come back with a Senator Armstrong 2020 DLC where he fights the curent presidential nominees.
"Don't fuck with this senator!" > wins the election
I'm glad this game came out they gave us another dope chatacter Jetstream Sam. Wish we could get more of him
*It's the only thing I've ever knooooooooown*
Honestly we could get an entire prequel just about what Sam was doing while the rest of the Metal Gear Solid series happened and I'd love it.
I still think Armstrong is one of my all time favorite video game villains.
'weaker plot' It's a lot more straightforward than the nonsense that is the rest of the Metal Gear games. That to me at least, is a plus point rather than a negative one.
crisprapper me too
Kojima is a good gameplay designer but garbage writer. Only MGS1 has a good story and it's because it's simple. He's like a grade schooler trying to write a college thesis on theoretical physics. Way out of his league trying to be "deep" and philosophical.
Hideo 'Marenghi' Kojima: "I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards."
@@JohnDoe-pt7ru No MGS2 has a good plot to, because Fukushima wrote it
@@JohnDoe-pt7ru yeah bro remember the simplicity of Ocelot's entire character in MGS1, the robot ninja with PTSD that you would only know the detail of the character if you played the fuckin 2d games and some old dead man's corpse?
I'm just glad someone's making content on this game, i personally think it deserves a remaster
Not everything needs a remaster. What it needs is a gosh darn sequel and not give me the same game with better graphics
If Rules of Nature doesn't make you wanna kick a grizzly bear in the balls and steal his fish, then you're doing it wrong.
The soundtrack to this game is honestly in the top 5 favorites of all time, right up there with Doom 1, 2, 2016, and Eternal. Nothing hypes me up more than the metal gear rising soundtrack. A KZheadr by the name Sly Shinobi has done some of the best remixes of it, going as far as to make it better than the original.
AngelEater Studios It got the best soundtrack of the year award.
This comment gave me anxiety
@@wonderguardstalker why?
@@wonderguardstalker how?
Great video however one thing I must say. You missed the point of the “Jack the Ripper” plot point- and while yes it’s not perfect, it’s not misplaced at all. Another part of Raiden’s character is the fact that he is indeed living a lie. This is somewhat what happens in real life as well with soldiers who never truly leave the war, raiden was raised as a child soldier all his life and forced to live a massive lie. While raiden definitely wants to do the right thing he is actually living a lie.. This is even shown with his own name.. as he chooses to be referred to as raiden even though his real birth name is Jack. “Jack the ripper” acts as the ugly truth that Raiden tries to hide which goes with the theme that Armstrong and he are truly one in the same.. This is why even after everything Raiden is still technically a soldier.. that’s the truth that is what he was born for and lives for
Nice
Also people don't get why he accepts Jack during Moonsoon's part. Moonsoon is a nihilist and one part of nihilism is moral nihilism, which rejects societal norms like the ones Raiden tries to abide by.
I'd also like to add that he has to become jack who enjoys killing that way he doesn't have any hesitation or weakness. If raiden was constantly worrying whether what he was doing was right or hesitating to strike down enemies he probably wouldn't be able to beat the vilains who were more founded in their beliefs going back to what you said about the dynamic between raiden and Armstrong with the stronger willed wining.
But more importantly it touched on the contradiction of Raiden’s ideals. It struck a chord when it’s revealed that the enemies he kills are no more victims than the ones he’s trying to save. The idea of protecting the weak can’t help but lose momentum when you realize that you may need to slay them in order to do so. Between Moonson’s nihilism, and Mistral’s absurdism it had to force Raiden to realize that his current actions can’t change or justify his already bloodstained past. He had to accept what happened, and how it molded him in order to push his ideals forward which honestly made him no different than Armstrong.
@@Galavantworks with the diference being that Armstrong is crazy (i don't think he never explained how he planned to make his plan work, he just sort of put the idea in the air and let it hang in there, maybe that was actually deliberate) and his plan is wrong, moraly he wants to do the right thing while fighting for his ideals but what those ideals are matters a lot, in the end not only where raidens ideals stronger, but also better
Foxcade: I should go over the music so I dont get crucified in the comments. Me: putting my cross away, you have chosen wisely.
This game was the first action game I played and I loved it. I loved the combat, soundtrack, and everything else. I hope that one day, this game gets a sequel, which is probably never gonna because konami doesn't give a shit about Metal Gear.
Good first game(at least for action). My first games were the first jack and daxter and dinotopia(i think thats the title) for the gameboy advance.
@@josesosa3337 nice
MG: Rising had one of the best soundtracks ever especially with how well it synced up with combat, the only other game's soundtrack I enjoyed this much, that hyped me up so much during combat was Doom 2016.
MGR Revengeance is a underappreciated hidden gem. They did NOT try to follow in Kojima's footsteps, went their own way & created a masterpiece. Where's the Remastered version?!
It's disturbing to think a masterpiece like this, especially the soundtrack, could have just never existed
Im happy people renember this game, ive been obsessed with the soundtrack for the last years since i first played it.
Senator Armstrong's voice actor also voiced Mimir in God Of War, by the way.
When you never used parry and then fight monsoon.
Tbh I didn't know, that there was something like "parrying" in this game. Found it out in the Armstrong-Fight. :3
I found out first playthrough on easy. I tried it on normal to try it without assist, monsoon handed my glutes to me on a silver platter
@@kishiokisho42 Better then mantis. . . .
@@JONtheULTIMATE true
@Just Moodle but it's in tge tutorial...
I always love Metal Gear related analysis videos, especially for this game, and I'm glad you touched on how well the music was implemented. Not just in a "it sounds great" way, but in the way it fit into the game mechanically and was a great example fleshing out characters' motives and backstory efficiently. One thing I'd like to add is to the "jack the ripper" element and Raiden's character development in this game. It's important to note that he is the typical, serious, edgy metal gear character yet every boss villain he faces other than Blade Wolf (who consequently ends up joining him to be the straight edge duo) is more jovial and excepting of their own nature. Raiden starts as a serious "reaper", dispensing justice like he's Batman and is mocked for his lofty ideals and sense of morality and him holding back by almost every boss since his first encounter with Sam. Sam, Sundowner,Mistral, Monsoon, and Armstrong all act more happy-go-lucky, silly or constantly have a shit eating grin and except who they are and their purpose. Yet Jack is constantly scowling and restrains himself and "denies himself his purpose" or is unclear of what he actually wants. As he goes through the campaign though, he is tested and eventually, in a way, becomes like the others when he "gets Jack back" and excepts his past, his nature and starts smiling and laughing too. In a way, the plot of Revengance is just Raiden's own personal "Apocalypse Now" journey, with Armstrong being his Colonel Kurtz. The beauty of this game is it's as simple and cartoony as you want it to be if that's all you care about. But beyond the camp and full blown anime level hype, there are alot of deep themes that stay true to Metal Gear. There are other themes I'd touch on such as the parallels of this game to MGS2 and how that game was about repeating things itself and how Armstrong mirrors Solidus alot. Or how it's funny that every game Raiden is in has memes as a theme and this game is the most internet meme'd metal gear game, but this comment has gotten long enough. Great video.
I still wish we had access to the Fox Engine resources from the early builds. I think there is still potential for some amazing games to be created with the Fox Engine in general. It's depressing how Konami just lazily puked out "Survive" then threw the engine away.
My favorite game of all time, i know that we will provably never get a sequel thanks to Konami but i am thankfull for what we did get, no other game built me with such hype and actually surpassed my expectations like this one.
28:00 *Giorno's theme starts playing*
Raiden : Why did I hear the boss music?
This game aged pretty damn well.
This was my first Platinum Games game. I was addicted to their games and other games in the genre DMC, etc. I still listen to the sound track 6 years later. It Has To Be This Way is by far my favorite. Thank you for making this video. It's such a memorable game and I hope more people can experience it.
43:34 About 7 years ago, HyperBitHero said a similar thing like this on his DmC Dante video. While Konami is in a deeper hole than Capcom ever was, I still wanna hold on to 1% of hope and say that you jinxed it.
Considering that Itsuno wanted to quit Capcom and they had to bribe him to stay by greenlighting DMC 5, HBH was pretty much right tbh. And Kojima no longer has any say about the Metal Gear IP so... sorry chief, it ain't happening
I had a janky right stick when it came to fighting the senator, and because the right stick would drift I was struggling to get past the final fight. After going out and getting a new controller I finally beat it, but I was so annoyed at how long it took me to beat it!
Monsoon's boss fight is possibly one of my favorites in gaming. When I was playing the earlier parts of the game, I was still stuck. I didn't feel like I was doing good at all. That's when it forced me to use the parry for how Monsoon could attack and "git gud." One of the few times in games and which I felt told by a game directly to step the fuck up to the challenge, loved it.
Never clicked a video this fast. NICE KNIFE!
Every time I remember that we're never getting a sequel to this game I get just a little sadder for the rest of the day
I can't believe you mentioned "phased escalation of musical elements" (or a different articulation of "dynamic soundtracks") and didn't mention Nier: Automata. Amazing video.
He did said he isnt a musical expert
Well this game came BEFORE Automata so yknow
When I played Metal Gear Rising Revengeance, I would focus on extravagant combos and nonstop attacking. Playing the way I did if ever was rarely a good idea
Foxcade: "We're not getting MGR2 any time soon" Me: *Sad noises*
A lot of people talk about Raiden's character arc and the "Jack The Reaper" resolution, but what I got from the ending was that his arc wasn't over. He kept Armstrong's ideals and continue to kill, something the Metal Gear Saga wouldn't allow as a final statement. I believe the plan was a sequel to continue exploring where Raiden's path will end.
MGR is my favorite game ever. The soundtrack, visuals, story and characters all fit together so damn well. Thanks Kojima. You made another masterpiece.
That's a great video you've got there. My only disagreement is with the idea that the game lacks meta commentary, and that the Jack The Ripper personality change is just to introduce a gameplay mechanic. The Ripper personality change IS meta commentary: the game tries to force the player to feel bad about killing enemies, like Spec Ops The Line before it, but it acknowledges that the player doesn't feel bad and enjoys the act, which is why Raiden's confession that he enjoys killing lines up with our own experience. We don't care about the random enemies we've killed: we just want to keep having fun. You mentioned that Raiden is like a hunter, but he's worse than that: he's a cannibal. He stalks, kills and "eats" other cyborg soldiers, hundreds of them. He's completely animalistic and dehumanised, which makes his "I'm a hero for justice" rhetoric so ridiculous. Having Sam and Monsoon tear that pretense away and force him to acknowledge the truth just puts him on the same page as the player. It's meta genius, and kicks the shit out of Spec Ops The Line.
Spot on! Love this take dude.
33:00 and all that talk about the Jack the RIpper kinda part. My personal take on this was a bit about Trauma and how the coping mechnaisms you have sometimes fall apart even if you are well adjusted over time. Raiden has lived through fucked up shit and in response became bloodthirsty because relishing in it is easier in that situation than trying to constantly reject the thing you are forced to do. With time and therapy you might as well be able to work through things, act normally in society and have this trauma and the coping mechanism associated with that come up less and less often. Coming to the Monsoon fight where they deliberately try to trigger (actually psychological not... meme trigger ironically enough) him he of course falls back into... a bad habit. Trauma victims will experience that tug backwards into old habits more often than not, even if they are (self-)destructive. That it introduces a game mechanic to be used is of course a bit undermining that point but I feel to say he lets his hold loose on his trauma is about as realistic as suddenly channeling suppressed bloodlust out of nowhere is about on the same level of ridiculous to me. At least that was my reading of that whole story beat.
Tell me you only experienced Rising through cutscenes without saying it
You know this is the only game I know of where a child soldier cyborg wearing a Mariachi uniform rips out the heart of a memes spewing senator but I gotta say it does make me harden in response to all this physical trauma
I love the boss soundtracks, the story and want a remaster/Revengeance 2.
metal gear rising is unironically one of my top games of all time
I love this game with a passion. I went from being skeptic to have it in my top 3 favourite MGs.
Really love this game retrospective genre that whitlight and you and Simon hawks pioneer. So damn relaxing and insightful just listening and watching an in depth analysis on how any given video game actually works.
I love platinum so much. They have this Standard of pushing things to the most insane setting you can imagine. And will then go there more tiers beyond that!
My top 3 favorite games of the PS3! I love this game a lot when I had my ps3 for the first time! Raiden and the rest of the cast are pretty niche as far as I remembered. It's said that we will never get a sequel to Revengance!
I love metal gear solid rising revengence because that game was really awesome and badass
I do love the story of this game's development. It serves as a reminder to any kind of artist that sometimes when you feel like you've hit a wall and don't know how to proceed, it's always a good idea to seek help. Seems like a no-brainer, but it's an important thing to remember.
Metal Gear Risings soundtrack is honestly legendary. Every song in it fits both the villain *and* RAIDEN, a theme they all pick at. They give you an atmosphere of intensity, when I first heard Stains of Time I had to bolt up in my seat, it was too hype. I never have once tried to take that fight slow or methodical, it's a mad dash to beat this ninja memester into the ground and the music wholeheartedly supports this. Rules of Nature gives you such a massive feeling of badassery that perfectly sets up Sams utter decimation of RAIDEN directly after, showing you how far you have to go and what you need to master. I could go on, but I'm sure every fan of the game knows everything I will say.
About your thoughts concerning the issue of Raiden accepting his Ripper persona: I think his Jack the ripper thing in this one is supposed to be him actually coming to terms with the fact that he really is a butcher who enjoys killing people, even if it for right reasons. in MGS2, he tried to completely renounce his past as Ripper, and in Rising, he tried to continue that, using only sensibilities such as justice as reasons for his fighting, denying the ego side of himself that genuenly does enjoy the fight, which was something that Sam called him out on. Sam and Monsoon though assumed that forcing him to confront this would break him, while it actually ended up being theraupetical for him, and he finally decided to not pretend that part of him doesn't exist, but rather accept it, and use it to a more constructive direction, helping him win the fights against what he sees as evil. He ends Rising partially adopting Armstrong ideals and going full on fighting the evil PMC companies in his own personal wars, with joy on his face, no longer denying it's also something he genuenly enjoys. I think it's supposed to be a paralel to Big Boss in a way, who went on to path of visionary after being changed by The Boss forever. much like Raiden was changed by Sam and Armstrong.
I felt Ripper begin a defense mechanism he developed as a child soldier
Excellent video Fox! This is one of my all time favourite games, it's both an absolute guilty pleasure as well as an outer body experience, all wrapped up into one cyborg twink vidja game.
This video is fantastic. Well done. I learned a lot more about this game than I thought!
Sam is one of my favourite video game villains and bosses. Great game, glad you made an video about it.
Wish the story had more connection with the villains and the MG world, the weakest in my mind being the eastern european Mistrael was hired to work for, who just blows up with an oil refinery. "Made with Russian money, to make Russia Money." -a one note character.
@Mahanbn he's talking about Dolzaev, who Mistral was hired to work for
@Mahanbn yeah, it took me 3 re-reads to understand it correctly lol
Loved this video, and I always love playing this game and listening to that soundtrack. Mmmm!~ But did you know you can clear stages without killing anyone?
Great video, Foxcade. You do an excellent job at these retrospective videos on classic games from last gen and current gen. Just bought Metal Gear Rising Revengeance recently. Absolutely love the game and would kill for a sequel.
I have always been curious what Raiden's fate would have been had Kojima not made MGS4. Like if he had really stopped at Snake Eater, made other games THEN came back to Mgs.
22:54 At least Raiden got a better helicopter boss fight than Dante.
Aw yeah I love me some metal gear rising!
I haven’t played this game in years. This video has created renewed interests again. thank you :)
loved this video! Rising is my all time favourite game with the best soundtrack
It's all in the memes
I just finished my first playthrough, and suddenly a video on it?
love this game! love this soundtrack! great vid! you always on point
It's been a long time since I've seen anyone talk about this game, and always wanted to see more recognition of it even years after it came out. I finally found what I was searching for.
After watching this, the urge to buy this game is real, Although sadly, The game isn't available in my region Why Steam... Why?
I got a pirated copy because of that. At least Konami don't get a single cent from me lol.
Armstrong is one of the best if not the best final boss in any video game.
Yeah he is good Though personally Vergil is the best for me (dmc vergil especially in dmd mode) his fights were perfect, he is one of the few bosses that are strong both in cutscene and gameplay.
@@alispeed5095 In my opinion Vergil is the best antagonist in any video game and Armstrong is the best final boss fight.
@@roymustang85 Well said
Great overview! I've not actually played much of any of the MGS mainline games, but I knew enough about it and dug Platinum's stuff, so I played through this one and I'm glad I did. Definitely rough around the edges in some parts but fantastically campy and hyperkinetic.
One of the best things about this game is the soundtrack, not only because its badass, but because who wrote it, Jaime Christopherson, was the one who also wrote the music ofr Disney´s Toontown. That is going from 0-15 in like a second lmao
This motivates me to play MGR YES
Technically Konami still owns the copyright to Kojima Productions. Fanboys everywhere calls this game a non Metal Gear game. It's an awesome game like that of Vanquish (one of my favorite PS3 games)... The actual staff behind this game deserve more credit. However someone likes to dictate TOO much. Tho I think Revengence original story line (before, during, and after MGS4) would have been better.
A Bear and a Human Kicking Eachother in the Balls is amazing.
Thank you for explaining to me why this is my favorite game ever because I never knew how to put it into words
I’m sad that my 360 red ringed recently and I can no longer play this game. I wish it was rereleased on modern platforms.😔
It's on pc, along with vanquish and bayonetta.
This wasa good reccomendation mgrr 2 when ;-;
Brilliant analysis! This game opened me to the Cuhrazzy genre when I replayed it (which I never do with games) in a no hit run. Its amazing how much you can do in terms of player expression. And even as a casual action game, it's one of the best. My friend beat it no issues, and he was not very good at games.
This game has really had a resurgence
So, I really have to disagree with your assessment of Raiden's "Jack is Back" breakthrough. As corny and over-the-top as that scene is, it really struck a cord with me when I first played the game. As someone who had struggled with their Shadow Self their entire life, the idea that sadistic and cruel impulses could be harnessed, could be controlled and used for the greater good, was honestly what I needed to hear at that point in my life. Not EVERYONE has to "relish the killing," but Raiden does. Without embracing his crueler instincts, he was never going to fight at full power. He was never going to be whole without embracing his true, full nature, and I believe that that message has value.
So Snake in 4 was wrong I'm guessing? Raiden is as bad as he thought?
@Eriko. Oy We all have demons, my guy. The only question that remains is whether you run from them and remain fragmented, or embrace them and become whole. You can call it edgy if you want, but I assure you that there is no greater peace than being one with yourself -- ALL of yourself.
@Eriko. Oy I realize this is probably a waste of my time, and anything further that I say will be dismissed by you as edgy bullshit. That's fine. But I find I have to ask, in your mind, how old is the person you think you're talking to? Genuinely asking here.
@@blitzkriegdragon013 So, I'll level with you, my man: I haven't played Metal Gear Solid 4. Rising is actually my first Metal Gear game (and yes, I know it really isn't actually a true Metal Gear game). What Im speaking to here is more the impact this moment had on me at an important moment in my life, and how much I value it if only for the significance it has to me personally. Addressing your question more specifically: Risen embracing "Jack" does not make him a bad person. I strongly urge you to look into Shadow Psychology, one of the theories developed by Carl Jung. It theorizes that within every person lies a separate persona, sort of a bundle of all aspects of one's personality that they hate, that they wish they weren't. However, much as we would like to cast aside our shadow, we cannot. It always lies there, eating away at us from the inside, and crucially, it cannot be contained. It WILL manifest, whether we decide how and when that happens or not. It is therefore much better to embrace one's shadow-self, to re-integrate it back into your mental whole, and in doing so, gain control back over it. It is also important to note that the shadow varies from person to person. In some, particularly those who value strength, it manifests as a desire to submit rather than dominate, to embrace weakness and passivity. But whatever it is, it is much better to control your shadow self than let it control you. Bringing this back to Raiden: Raiden is most likely a sadist. He can either suppress I, try to deny what he is (resulting in incidents like what happened to George) or he can embrace it, wield his blade the way it desires to towards his own ends, and in doing so, become more whole a a person I hope this overly long-winded tirade answers your question. Please, I really do urge you to look into this in your own time. Its a very worthwhile thing to know about yourself.
@@Braxmegaman I already am familiar with Jung's theory. I was a fucking psyche minor. Now I suggest you actually play and/or watch MGS4. At least the Raiden scenes because it gets to the core of my argument. Raiden ALREADY went through this arc. 4 covered it quite well and with a lot more nuance. Raiden's arc hits its climax when Snake tells him "you still have your youth, don't waste it fighting." Raiden spent the game believing that he had become a killing machine. He came into the game with a death wish because he had found his "shadow" in Jack the Ripper. It gave him heavy PTSD and made him feel that he was beyond saving. Not only did Snake sacrifice himself to stop him, but his wife and child embracing him with open arms made him realize that he is more than a killer. That he is a genuinely good man who doesn't have to fight anymore. Raiden's arc in 4 was him learning that it wasn't too late to put down his blade. That he's more than Jack the Ripper. Revengance backslides this so hard, that he's back to where he was before the events of 4. He ignores Snake's advice, he practically forgets about his wife and child, and then decides that he is just Jack the Ripper and that everyone was wrong about him. It's fucking stupid and doesn't work for his character. Had this game taken place before 4 and after 2, it would have made a lot of sense. So no, his arc doesn't work in this game, because it has already been done in previous games, and done better.
15:08 ...did you say equippeded? My friend, that is not a word ;_;
It should be though.
@@MouldyBoss But not really ;o
@Trevor Anthony :O The base word is 'equip', and represents present tense; when you add the -ed to it, or in this case -(p)ed so it fits the goofy rules of english, it represents the past tense. To add another -ed to that, 'equippeded', isn't a word. Lots of people haven't been taught that, so don't feel too bad (it's still not a word tho)
Words change and grow over time. Your way of speaking proper english is drastically different to english 100 years ago, and it will be drastically different to how people speak in the future.
just found you, binging imminent. great videos man looking forward to digging through what you got!
I Hope Kojipro and Platinum colaborate Again, i want another Action game with a story as Crazy and great as MGRR