2020 Mercedes-AMG C63 S vs 2013 Mercedes C63 AMG // Cheap Meets Steep
This is the new 2020 Mercedes-AMG C63 S Coupe, and it meets its W204 elder, the 2013 Mercedes Benz C63 which costs less and still offers V8 thrills. Both are rear-wheel drive, and both fulfil the role of an icon. The 2013 hits 60 mph in 4.4 seconds and the new one does it in 3.7 seconds. So can the old one stack up, and is the new one worth the massive premium? James and Thomas jump behind the wheel of both to experience them and discuss them inside and out. Watch and enjoy!
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Regarding the harsh ride on the new C63: We (like you guys) noticed the high tire pressures in the video, and came to the conclusion that that could be causing the harshness we felt. We get these cars (usually) from the manufacturers and they are responsible for setting the car up in the way they feel is best to represent what the car can do. Mercedes Canada delivered the car to us with those tire pressures, and honestly we didn't think twice about it. But now seeing the ridiculously high pressures it's possible they messed up, overfilled them and ruined the ride. Hopefully in the future we can re-test the car with proper pressures and we will happily report back to everyone if our opinion changes! Thanks for watching!
I can agree with this comment. Anytime they service my car they fill it back to 41psi each tire. It rides a lot better at 37 front 33 back.
If you use the recommended tire pressures in the W205 C63, the ride is quite stiff. Actually it’s stiffer than my AMG GTC in comfort. This is with the stiffer suspension offered as an option as part of the performance package. It came standard with the 507 Edition. Pressures should be in the 30psi range, certainly not 50!
INFO Productions 37/33 is not the recommended pressure, that’s for sure
Fluterra what would u recommend my brother? I did a quick google search and I’m seeing some 36/32 comments, which isn’t much different than the 37/33. Either ways the dealerships always put way too much air in.
@@infoproductions6446 Hi, I always go by the fuel filler door sticker. I used to own the W204 C63. It was in the 30s, definitely not 50+ psi as the test car seemed to have.
The W204 C63 Amg is a future classic
Yeah they said that 10 years ago to, still dropping hard in price tho..
@@junkfoodeater that's for the better so I can get one soon. But that's also how ppl ignored the E30 3 series and suddenly when it gained popularity again the prices surged overnight
@@junkfoodeater They're everywhere that's why. The black series is still 100k USD in a lot of countries. That's the one to look out for in terms of appreciating.
It is, but I’d hate to have to work on it. If you can’t work on it, Mercedes will charge you too much for maintenance on it :(
its a staple if ur in germany and you engage any sorts of illegal activities 💕
It's three years later and that 2013 STILL doesn't look old to me.
And what a disappointment the new c63 has been
@@apadvaith7424it's good but a expected a bit more power and I think it has a fake exhaust
It does your over exaggerating, we get you like car but the headlights and interior look dated
Throttle House gives that OLD TOP GEAR vibe and I love it.
I've told friends of mine the exact same thing.
Because the presenters have good chemistry. It’s a hard thing to develop but these guys have nailed it
Says the Ghibli to future Jeremy Clarkson
nah clarkson hates america
@@templeton123 So does the rest of the world.
W204 Mercedes are in my opinion the best models, and still are.
The sharp and boxy body lines make it the most beautiful one too!
The W204 wins based solely on that NA V8 engine - it just sounds magnificent.
bought 507 2015. still enjoy! one day i will get a w204 black series
@@5sy5 one of my favorites. The 507 station wagon
@@5sy5 kzhead.info/sun/iNCpYcave4ePfas/bejne.html You have to do... Absolute sick and limited car :)
That 2013 c63 is always going to be one of my favorite cars. The looks and the sound are just amazing.
Thank you
Thank you
Same my dream car
Everything after is whack ... 63 should have 6.3l motor .! Or they should call it 43 or 53 😂😂😂
W204 generation looks very good sharp lines and aggressive
"We don't know if it being a 4 cylinder is a bad thing yet" Yes we do.
We absolutely do.
Agreed
Just got the stats. Not looking as grim
It’s going to be silly fast. But of course the sound will never be the same
of course we do. who said such an stupid thing. if i wanted a 4 cyl i would have bought one. i will never sell mine c63. next year stage 3 and that is it. luckily i haave the older model, no opf :)
W204 is a timeless design. I’ve driven the pre facelift sedan and a 507 coupe. The 507 is amazing. Both of them were way easier to drive than I thought.
Ohhh James and his "rear end play"
Stop liking this comment guys my parents will see it
James Engelsman 😂
James Engelsman C'mon, they can laugh with us!
@@jamesengelsman9369 LOL 🤣
2005-2010 was a great era for performance. The last of the big naturally aspirated engines shoehorned into small or medium cars. Big engines have soul.
Well...it could have been great if the engines weren't made of glass. Except for the merc 6.2 :)
Indeed. Plan on keeping my e92 m3 forever. Don't care that it isn't fast in a straight line.
N54 N55 B58 e92 is fast but it’s just not as fast as the merc. 4 litres vs 6.2 litres the merc is gonna have so much more torque.
@@dylansterio3227 I wouldn't call it fast tbh bro. I'd call it quick. Don't matter though it's one of the best cars to experience behind the wheel. Have other cars with twice the torque and almost twice hp that just aren't the package the e92 m3 is
6.2 C63 was sold until 2015. A real holdout 💪
my friend bought a higher mileage (100K) W204. His family and everyone told him not to get one, due to their perception of reliability. He had me drive the thing, I was honestly not expecting much, but for such high mileage it is an exceptionally fun car. He has only had some minor electrical issues but engine wise everything is good. His engine was made by Tobias, which apparently is a sought after AMG engine builder.
"They could've gotten red seatbelts, so they showed some restraint." ANYONE?????
"Plugs are for butts" WOW! I just about had coffee come out my nose! I was not expecting that. HILARIOUS!
It was Gatorade for me...LOL!
Yeah, a warning would have been nice. Hilarious.
“That rear end play is so much fun....” what a way to bookend the film!!!
that rear end play
I almost spit out my drink too! 😂😂
It took me a solid minute to realize the “plugs are 4 butts” joke...😂
Ivor Daniel butt plug...
@Ivor Daniel XD
@Ivor Daniel 'plug' -in hybrid , butt 'plug'
I got in right there
Lil Benz I don’t get the master race joke
2010-2014 mercedes c,e,s class design were the best sharpest ones they have made. In year 2040 id still like to have c63 from that age.
Even I like those Sharpe designs.. now the designs are not tht good boring
I own a 2009 C63. Nothing compares. Went wild on it with long tubes and a supercharger.
2 great sounding cars never the less
Yeah schwartzer sounds bad-ass
Indeed
nevertheless one word bro
but agreed
@Khalid no😂
110 grand? I’ll buy a BMW M2 competition and then the 2013 C63 AMG for that price.. double the fun.
Agreed
Ikr, that’ll be a killer garage.
@Floki Ab it would depend on the kind of person with their enthusiasm for cars. Even a millionaire would buy a second hand car if he’s fascinated by it regardless of price.
@Floki Ab nice, intelligent answer. Tell that to Jay Leno, and many other car enthusiasts. Its not because theyre second hand doesnt mean they wont buy it, but for what value it actually gives the person. Each to their own.
I'd buy a house
I consistently run 3.8-3.95 seconds 0-60 in my 2013 P31 C63 AMG with 12.0-12.25ish 1/4 mile times. The car is an absolute blast to drive and one of my favorite cars for the value! The 4.4 0-60times for the W204 (not entirely sure if that's with or without the AMG Development Package) was a bit understated by Mercedes.
100%. They even claimed that the black series and 507 edition were 4.2 second cars.. They just tryna make customers think it feel quicker than expected
No way i raced one in my c300 2015 and we were even until top end its not fast from 0-60 maybe 5-5.5 sec
@@marsallen4298 There's genuinely no way it's anything more than a 4.5 second car and that's being conservative. The C300 has half the horsepower of the C63. It wasn't racing you.
What is the difference between the P31 and the black series? I heard the P31 has a limited slip diff or something instead of the open diff the W204 C63 normally has.
How many miles does your car have and how much did you get it for? I’m looking for one myself
Mercedes is honestly one of the best performing cars I have ever been in. It’s crazy how well it handles and how fast it is.
do this next with the e92 m3 and the f80
But BMW is already on its way on releasing a new gen M3. Better wait for it lol
pierce yu eh nothing new there actually. The same I6 3.0 engine. V8 M3 was the GOAT
Wow cars did drag race all 4 and m3 f80 (1)and previous c63s (2) beat the new c63s and last came the e92
Alejandro u meant CARWOW right?
@@ddd-sx7pw X drive and the hideous new taillights the 3 series have received mate.
Insta like for the Saab
Saab is da best
I bet he's got a few Saab stories. I'll see myself out.
It was actually a Subaru with a Saab badge...Aero 9000 was the last 100% Swede fast Saab
@@chrissalimi8708 The Saab 9-3 isn't based on a Subaru 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ The only two rebadge job SAABs were the 9-2x and 9-7. Also the Viggen and 9-5 Aero both got the swedefast B234r motor. edit:grammar
@@chrissalimi8708 Friend's dad had a 9000 back in the day, god I loved that car.
E92 M3, W204 C63 and the B8 RS5, the best era of cars and absolute future classics 🙌
From “Oh that pedal is addictive!” To “Oh that pedo is addictive”... Nice one captions, never ceases to fail me.
Haha
Hahaha hahaha lol
C63 w204 had the real AMG's soul.
Everyone: James: PLUGS ARE 4 BUTTS Me: Man, I respect James.
And then at the emphasizing his enjoyment of “rear-end play”
this was the best money I ever spent! 2019 c63s makes me smile every time I drive it!!!!! AMG for life
I wish one day I could say the same
Congratulations 👍🏻😄
Mercedes will never make AMGS like the w204 ever again 😓
Now I really want a t-shirt with James' smiling face on it, and the caption. "I've never been careful in my life".
The W204 C63 is just a legend in AMG. That sound, that power, and of course that price due to depreciation is just amazing
Can't really say personally since I've never been in the 204 version, but I honestly love my 2018 s. I love that I still have the very low V8 grunt plus the high end push of the turbos, and the blowoff valve to play with. The ride in comfort doesn't seem all that harsh to me, but then I'm used to race-tuned suspensions anyway. For me it's practically a perfect daily. I just can't complain about a single thing, and since I got it for less than 60k, I'm pleased. its also the red with black wheels and black interior so, yeah. I'm a happy guy and don't regret a thing.
I feel like the 204 has more of a shout to it
LESS THAN 60K??
The fake exhaust is becuase it gives more freedom designing the rear bumper of the car. The exhaust moves quite a bit and if it's form fitted to the bumper it can damage the bumper and melt the plastic. That's why it's separate. Those exhausts that you see that don't have false tips, they have a large gap to accommodate the movement of the exhaust and dissipation of heat, but they aren't form fitted as tightly. The w205 c63s stock is very loose on the rear end, maybe not as slippery as w204 c63 stock.
I'm nowhere near a AMG fanboy, but GODDAMN the C63 '13 sounds like an absolute GNARLING BEAST
I already know old C63 sounds much better and also i love how it looks
NA V8 vs twin turbo V8 of course NA V8 win
Not sure about that
@@mrjdmtunerboy.1463 Doesn't work like that, look how good koenigseggs sound.
w204 for life they should not call the last NA V8 but the last monster made by mercdes. all the new version not a big fan
It looks so dated. That’s the thing about bmw, even the e46 m3 still looks good today. The e92 aged so much better than its e63 counterpart. Only time will tell how people will feel about the m4 years from now but the e46 and e92 are solidified... Benz on the other hand, I mean it sounds great but god is that a dated look.
W204 is far better looking, far better sounding has one of the best V8s or just best engines ever and is just pure joy to drive. Rip.
The BEST!!
Looks so good!
Its way better than the current one
Best engines? Thing is a maintenance nightmare. The only modular v8 I’d trust is a Toyota/Lexus or a Ford 5.0….The last good Mercedes were in the 80’s. They’re still super nice and luxurious today, but they’re not built to last.
@@GreenGenerationTV yeah i had both, still have the w205 and you absolutely are talking out of your ass. Never had one issue and its tuned.
The W204 will always be my favorite C Class. I had one and I absolutely loved throwing it around corners and kicking the back end out. I’ll miss that car until I die.
Was it a C63?
Miss it? It still exists 🤣 y’all just find excuses to be sad
I love the old one so much. 6.2 V8 is simply legendary. I don’t care for 0-100 km/h time.
"Anger.... fear.... aggression" - lol well done
3:41
That is the path to the dark side.
You guys definitely should have more subs. The amount of information in your videos is amazing. Keep it up fellas! This is good shit
I bought c63 7 years ago and i am still driving it. Car from my dream. If you want beast on asphalt who spit fire this is car for you. I remembered when BMW M6 tried to overtake me after i overtake him, that was fucking good race. His max speed was about 240-250 kmh, i did it 295 kmh. After few miles he lost me from radar. AMG POWER.
C63 W204 is already a legend. The new one, not so much.
The older AMGs feel the best to drive, but the new ones drive faster and look better :)
I agree
I prefer the look of the old ones. The the clk black series. The new ones are faster and easier to live with for sure though
Actually the old one is faster than the new one, check out carwow drag race and roll race
new one looks like an egg
New gen are actually slower than the 3rd gen c63.
Not sure I could love watching you guys more, but then ... SAAB! Yes!!! Honestly though, love the comparison take... More of these please!
🤣 same
Love this comparison! I want a 2013 c63 AMG ! Classic looks and aging so well. and with no turbo!
the 204s were built like tanks, you can feel it in the solid doors and hood.. the 205 cost cut and no longer is the solid vault that its predecessor was
Great job! So glad you guys have not strayed from your boyishly fun delivery. This one had me cracking up while waiting eagerly for the next pedal down roar of the old 6.2 motor.
Hats off for the old school big v8 on amg, really love the sound and the crazy low end torque
Dude these intros are literally the best of any KZhead car channel... I love your guys channel literally... I thank you guys for your reviews...I’m speaking for everybody when I say we want more videos!!!
i love how the Mercedes batches are printed in the 4 bolts holding each wheels, the attention to detail is amazing!
Y’all should do an episode of just outtakes, I feel like that would be amazing
So glad I still have my W204, 2014 and just hit 13K miles last week.
Dam 13k😅
I love your channel and your videos and your amazing drivers, thanks guys!
I was able to pick me up a 2013 W204 C63 and its absolutely crazy. It pulls you back and you just feel the wave of acceleration
you know how certain actors automatically do a seal of quality on movies? I see Thottlehouse and I just upvote is as I know being a fan for years there is always information and genuine honesty in their work. Not to mention fun and excitement 🙂 keep up rocking guys!
Ohhh I love this new vs old episodes Joke I love all of their videos
I'm a mercedes guy also a car designer and clay modeler. I have 2 very rare classic 90s mercedes the 93 500e and sl60 amg and as I'm into 90s style design, in my opinion the new w205 design reminds me of old amg hammer and it's more old school than w204 here's why: smooth surfaces combined with sharp edges and simple headlights and tail lights design without going crazy with angles, all is old german style design language. also the smooth wheel arches that he mentioned all old german wide cars have them such as old porsche rsr the amg hammer. smooth fender arches is just like my 93 500e. edgy wheel arches came in 2000s. the design on w205 is more badass. but when the w204 starts the engine it can change the game with that 6.2 liter crazy v8 and crazy sound though the w205 v8 turbo can be alot faster cause with a $2k ecu tune you can go to 600hp easy also a crazy sounding engine. I think in terms of classic combination of w205 body with w204 engine will give the most badass car but for now both cars has their own point and we will miss both as the new ones will be 4 cylinder non sense.
Man I love C63S coupe. The look, V8 roars, handling and above all when you put pedal to metal its gave you uncertainty for a fraction of the second that may or may not kill you feeling.
in my opinion, the old C63 has the best sound ever
Thanks for this great review - have the 507 Edition and will never give it away! It's so much fun to drive and even in the city (Tokyo!) relaxing.
Having been an owner of a W204 C63 Edition 507 since 2015, I couldn't part with it, I tried a C63s Edition 1 Motorsport, it was fantastic, but didn't give me the same fun and smile on my face than the 507, modern classic, plus its held its value remarkably well.
Well done guys I love the 204 c63 better though love the aggressive rear-end handling it has
Mornings that I sit at my desk to eat breakfast over a new throttle house videos are good mornings that precede good days.
My favorite KZhead personalities! These guys are so passionate about cars and so much fun to watch. They are so likable, it’s a pleasure to watch them interact with each other while bringing us awesome content!
I leased a 2015 W204 C63 507 Edition in November 2014 and bought it after my lease was up in November 2018. I keep it stock and only my local Mercedes Benz AMG technicians are allow to work on it. I haven’t had any problems with my ownership so far. Love the ride every time I get behind the wheel. Keep your car up with maintenance and the car will love you back.
I got a 507edition and I love mine.... beat a few c63s in the runs I've had... can't wait for stage 3 supercharger to come. Just to add a full exhaust with headers adds 90hp on the stock setup
Perfect, time to watch this as I drink my morning cup of coffee 🤙🏼
"Old vs new" Old- 2013: *Cries in poor*
"This AMG is an absolut hooligan, its dangerous" *Lets go of the steering wheel*
w204 is like a fine girl natural sexy simple. The 2020 is a Kardashian.
😂😂😂
Lol
Accuracy 🎯
Cardashian. Missed opportunity!
a good ride but not as often 🤣
The W204 is my favourite car ever!!
This video couldn't have been more timely - I'm shopping W204 C63 AMGs as we speak. And I like what I hear, in more ways than one!
Get on it brother! It was a hero I do NOT regret meeting 💪
Just be sure to get one with the LSD, or if you can find a performance pack.
@@jordanhertzing2012 I did it! I'll post it in the comments but ironically I got a Canadian AMG development pack, with the LSD, Lighting pack, and CF pack as well. White/black with 19s and the red calipers.
I have come to the same conclusion. With black aeries lifters and lower compression custom forged lightweight pistons for forced induction. The crank and rods are up to the task. Probably a shorter stroke with a larger bore. Super quick spool and external wastegates running wide open above 6800 rpm. It passes that sweet sound right by the turbos into the exhaust
Best motoring channel out there, great work!
Ive got the new 63, and had a 6.2 as well. I can see the new car is much louder in person but the 6.2 is much more authentic sounding with the deep v8 rumble. The new car handles much better too.
Best car review channel out there... Another home run... 👍🏽
just came across this channel and this vid is great. editing is fire. content wavy. plz make more
Beautiful video! Two pleasantly goofy guys. I love your contents, and Lord, that soft background music revealed itself like a ghost to me. First, I wasn’t sure if it was coming from the video or my neighbor’s wall. So, I paused the video. Yes, it indeed was coming from the video. It’s magical!
I prefer the old C63. I prefer the "old" looks.
Bishop Sharp Right ! there my favorite amg model from that era. Im pretty sure you can get a good deal on some of them since they go for 20k now.
@@d4rryl233 honestly I like the slightly older generations than the 2010-2013ish generations. My dad owns a w212 e class and I dont really like it's interior compared to his older ml500.
Ishaq Mojaddidy, yeah, I agree my. Dad owns a w221 and. If you see the newest model released, I prefer the older interior because of the detail and design they put in it.the new one(w223) is just a big tablet in the middle and nothing else. Not too many people like this design, and I agree with them.
jnewmen 411 I think it is mainly the mutex dash. I don’t really like that style dashboard since it just looks like plastic and overall I don’t like black interiors
same
Maybe EU instead of focusing on cars and killing the motor industry, should start focusing on livestock as it is nth time worse for the planet than the emissions produced by cars. It's sad that soon we won't hear the rumble of a V8 anymore :(
I try to eat more fish and chicken so we can have v8s around longer. I’m doing my part! Haha.
America will never betray the hardcore motor heads... don’t worry friend and smile on! We will always have muscle
@@dannyeagles29 what about the electric Mustang lol
Danny Yousif nah ur fooling urself
@@filipl1130 They still make new Stangs with 700 to over 800 hp V8's
Top Gear was yesterday...Throttle House is the NOW. Love your work!
This video is what I exactly wanted. Thanks so much. I got second hand w204 black series🎉
I know you're obsessed with the M series and Beemer in general, but man I honestly think they use too many easy wear parts in the engine compartment. Hence their abysmal durability. And that's a shame, honestly, and they SHOULD be shamed until they address that. That said, good to see you guys doing videos again you have the most unique and fun rapport of any car reviewers, and hence the most overall entertaining, I've seen. And yeah I've seen a LOT of them. COVID ya know.
I had the 63 sedan back in 2010 never really adored the front look untill the facelift model was released which appears much more refined the coupe to me has that stunning classic fancy old movie star appeal. I think it will only age even better with time. Love the later series, but w204 is a beautiful looking ride in palladium silver regardless how old it appears or generic with the entire c class sedans other than it’s interior and bigger wheel arches.
KZhead is smart for putting this video of my dream cars on my recommended, gained a new sub👍🏻 great content
C63 W204 is the best sounding Amg for me. Brutal, atmospheric, agressive sound . Thats what we need 🔥
I used to own a w204 c300 4matic and minus the fact that it was pretty slow, it was a really really great car. It was lowered and handled so well, and it looked amazing. I just cant imagine how good a c63 would be
In recent times I'm finding myself really admiring the looks of the facelift W204 wagon. Sneakily timeless
Best car KZheadrs ever maybe just maybe 😉
Its kinda like a off brand doug demuro
DDE, Shmee, Emilia, Stradman, Carwow, Adam LZ, Tavarish
@@Yur910 you can't compare 2 funny guys giving you a nice review to a guy making vlogs telling you how rich he is and what's his next car so you are wrong about most the channels you mentioned
@@Yur910 carwow yes everyone else No!
Watch living life fast llf scares people in their own cars
Glad I found this channel! Your videos are so good!
You guys are, bar none, the best car channel online. You're both funny, you both know your stuff, you're both obviously real car guys and you have amazing chemistry. Thank you so much for doing what you do.
❤️
@@ThrottleHouse still true to this day
23 minutes of pure soul music
Agreed
I didn't want this review to end 💔
i dunno dudes!!! im still loving the old body from 2013
The w204 is such a more beautiful car than the newer model. I has much more apperance!
New one looks much nicer.
BigBoyRob agreed even though I would purchase the old one.
@BigBoyRob not sure it looks better than the AMG GT, SLS, CLS, or R8, but yes it's one of their best designs and I love it
The problem I have with the looks of the new one is that its too fancy. It really doesn't look sporty, it just looks like a luxury cruiser. The old one has aggressive and bold looks, and the backend is actually so iconic. That old C63 is peak AMG imo.
Exactly what I was thinking
Around that time period, CL65 is the real style winner but the C63 still looks amazing. Also I prefer the interior of the older one because it doesn't have such a big ugly screen
I have a 2009 c93 bought new traded my Porsche 40 anniversary for it. Only 20 k miles so far! No problem at all. Love it until now. The roaring sound put a smile to your face every time!
nice comparison, I always admired the old C 6,2 AMG. Actually I like most the Station Wagen 507 version, which I think will go up in value in a couple of years, since it is limited edition and the last naturally aspirated AMG engine.
13:11 brilliant!
Earlier this month I picked up my W204 C63(in the Toronto area & almost the exact same spec coincidentally, just full red interior) and I absolutely love it. The amount of car you get for the money is insane, and it puts the biggest shit-eating grin on my face every time I drive it😅
Are they reliable cars?
"shit-eating grin" does it taste good?
I had both, it’s honestly hard to choose sometimes, but I grown to like the new models, I think I will try the E63 next. Like the size and AWD OF THE E63
Nice review! Both cars are awesome and sound amazing.
Y’alls intros are TOP TIER!😂👌🏾