We Found a HAUNTED HIDDEN ROOM under a Derelict 18th century Chateau. Ep 88
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This week at the Terry and Ash take us on a discovery on part of the chateau we have not seen, but with a couple of discoveries the pair find It hard to figure it out what it is and why its there. Plus a hidden room leads them to a discovery hidden under the châteaux walled garden. A secret room which looks like It has been bricked up at a later date, what will the pair find hidden in this 18th century castle?
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You little buggers. I nearly had a canary fit when you both pounced. I was really relaxed and you certainly woke me up. Excuse my French but I’m a North Easter also. It’s such a pity so many chateaux were left abandoned. They must have been fantastic back in the day. Nice to see so many people willing to restore them
I’m sure the earth lurched when our hearts stopped across the world😵💫
I Spilled my tea. Yes they are a little buggers
ha ha ha thought it was just me!
Threw my back out
And me
The first room looks like an old cold store. A 1700's version of a refrigerator. My Amish neighbors do something similar in two ways. One, and the simplest, is just a shelf down below ground level in the well house to keep cream, milk and butter cool. The second is a shed that has a stone lined pit situated slightly underground or even a small cellar where the temperature is cooler than above ground, like a cave and used for the same purpose, keeping things cool. I've seen one that had an ice hold where they bring in a block of solid ice that has been stored in a purpose built ice house and the ice is packed in sawdust to keep it frozen for as long as possible, well into summer. Blocks of ice are brought from the ice house and put into the cold store as needed to store perishables in a closer proximity to the kitchen or dining room of the house for ease of use. A big clue is the slit window, it would provide ventilation and a cross draft but it's too narrow to be entered or to allow too much air to escape. You see this sort of thing a lot in old butteries. The idea is air flows over the cold stone and helps keep the temperature down, if there is an ice hold then the cold air from the melting ice circulates and chills the air even more, sometimes they had porous tile floors that they would wet to help cool the air when in use. In addition, it helps discourage mold because of the constant ventilation that pulls out the damp air as the melt water evaporates. Just a guess but, that's what it looks like to me. I could very well be wrong.
I agree. When I was a young lad I remember we had something similar at home in which we stored cream from milking until the creamery came to collect it. Inside was sawdust and ice and the cream cans were lowered into it. We would also store our butter and and even vegetables.
@@fr.barryschoonbaert3844 Exactly! My neighbors did the same thing. Makes sense when you think about it. Warm air rises and cold air sinks so, the coldest point is in the pit they found. I was wondering about the pile of slate as well and then I thought, slate is heat resistant. Likely they used the slate as a ceiling, maybe similar to a drop ceiling as we think of them today or maybe even a pitch roof that helped with directing air flow. All in an effort to help keep that tiny room as cold as possible. Our ancestors were pretty clever. ;)
I fully agree. My Great-Grandmother had something like this at her farm in Michigan, USA. The thick walls of the Chateau would really aide the heat-sink effect. I'd put a proper heavy door on that, and I bet it'll come in handy for chilling beverages, and all kinds of thing.
@@Ashencrowe I think the Châteaux all had heat transfer and fluid flow experts designing air flow inside them, based on prevailing winds and weather patterns. Just like the ice cellars and other food cooling preservation already in use, it seems to me that the whole buildings have open upper rooms and vents, and lower openings in cooler areas, as well. Even if the little room that we saw in the château was not specifically for food, it might very well have been designed to keep the inhabitants cooler by passing air over the ice, through the day rooms, and out the top. At night, winds would shift and the reverse would occur keeping upper bedrooms cooler and lower rooms clearing the day’s heat out. They do similar things in North African building design, making use of day and night wind flow directions for cooling or warming.
Just had another thought; in 1755 thunder jugs were used for ladies and gentlemen to relieve them selves so you could be looking at a space where they were able to do that. The jugs were then removed by staff, so you may not necessarily find a sewer type system associated with that space.
I think the small room off the dining room would have been the “butlers pantry” where the silver service and wine would have been stored. The close proximity to the dining room would mean that bottles could be brought up from the cellars ahead of time, the sediment would have had time to settle and the butler would be able to decant the wine. The window would have been useful for illumination for cleaning the silver. The fact that it was panelled suggests it would have been a room that would have been seen on occasions. Great vid, super spooky and I hated seeing that spider up close! Best wishes from Neil in Australia 🇦🇺
Can't resist! Around 3 weeks ago I found your channel and have been binge watching every episode in order since the beginning (currently up to #57) .... always resisting the temptation to look at newer, or even recent episodes so as not to spoil the slow but rewarding progress you are making at Lalacelle. But could not resist jumping ahead today for the Hidden Room! Thanks for all the enjoyment you bring to people around the world, sharing your journey with your wonderful family. Now, back to #57 and I promise to try to keep in order until I catch up to the latest episodes!
Maybe it was for produce from the vegetable garden. Yes, I would like to see the out buildings, thank you.
This stream was so laid back and casual! It was so nice watching the two of you banter as you explored. Thanks for sharing the fun. ❤
Ash you damn near gave me a heart attack 😂 I had my nose down looking through the holes with you. You little devil 👿 I’m glad I’m not the only one you scared the peewadin out of. Great laugh! ❤
The idea of a dairy/cooler area comes to mind. I restored an 1806 stone home in America and it reminds me of that 'cool storage'.
I know they had them in Pa farms
I agree it appears that it could be a cold room
Definitely looks like below ground storage to keep things cooler.
Yes!! I was thinking about that too... no fridges back then
yes - I wonder if its a small ice house.
Anyone else see the ghostly face when he was shinning the flashlight around the dinning room? Time at 14:38
Really spooky, especially when it laughed!!
The house might not be haunted but the site is.
So you seen it too... I wonder if the guys recording the video seen it as well???
I didn't see it until I read you comment! Terry must have added that in. Trying to scare us.
I saw 👀 it 😱👻 wonder if they did it on purpose lol 😂🤦♀️😂
I was thinking your intro would be good for a horror movie and then you two jumped out. The spider and the ghostly spooky face were a good touch. You all have so much fun together which is an awesome thing! I want to see more exploring. I'm a very curious American who will never see a building as old as your chateau.
I’d love to take a look at the other buildings!!
Hahahaha, I literally was airborne and so was the cat....that was a good one...what an adventure...the skull and the spider...you two were having way too much fun...YES, more exploring please...!
You startled me when you surprised us. Too much for an old lady!!! So much fun to explore with you.
Same!
Me too Mary Ellen 😂😂x
As one old lady to another, I also enjoy looking at these chateaus. Travel isn’t in my stars , so I experience through these wonderful videos! Cheers 🇨🇦
OMG! Sat down with my dinner and saw your video. I thought "oh good" one of my top streamers to watch as I enjoyed my meal. But NOOOO! I heard the eerie and even sad sounding music. I was puzzled by it. Then Terry and Ash jumps out and screams, just as I was taking my first bite. I about choked on the meatloaf I bit into.. hahaha You both are rotten, but loved it too. Put a smile on my face, thanks🤣🤣😊.❤❤ My guess is that the stairs leads to a cold cellar. Since back in 18th century they used under ground rooms for cold storage. (refrigerators weren't around yet). They relied on the Ice house to deliver ice for the household to keep their perishables nice and cold. The niches that were cut out could be where lanterns were placed to see in the darkness.
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Chateaus had secret exits for safety (And to bring in mistresses etc)
Are there caves underneath?
The aristocracy needed to have safe exit tunnels from the main house to enter and exit. To be hidden from plain view. The fun times they must have had 😂partying, but there was probably historical periods of uncertainty and unrest.
After the French Revolution some chateaus, especially the ones that were fortresses, were required to remove parts of the building, that identified them as fortresses or military buildings. Stephanie from LaLande recently found out that is part why her moat had to be changed into a dry moat, the drawbridge removed etc. She found documentation from a military engineer. Could that place have been a butlers pantry entry with access to a wine/ cider cellar. Deliveries could have been brought in from the outside, straight to the cellar but accessible through the buttlers pantry.
It would never have been a privy next to a paneled room because of the smell, so it's not that. They could have an original cellar under the lawn they can dig out, a well head where water was drawn, or perhaps what we call a spring house in the US, where perishable food stuffs were kept in the summer. So I'm on a similar track to you.
French Revolution? I thought it was King Louis XIII with Edict of Nantes and Edict of Grace (Peace of Alès) in 1629 that resulted in building changes (removing military potential from various buildings or be destroyed). Maybe what the video is seeing, remnants of prior fortified chateau that was destroyed (basis of different stone-brick laying patterns)?
I wondered if it could have been a wine cellar below and butler's pantry above . I have seen a similar arrangement off a dining room Stephanie visited when she did Sunday at the chateau.
Could it be something like a Safe Room? The little window would help disguise its purpose.
Thank you for that interesting information.
That was a great video, so interesting to see the unexplored areas of your beautiful chateau, it was also great to see more of you two having some fun also, there's more to living in a chateau than just renovation. Have you been able to find any old records of the chateau that would give you more clues as to what these older less grand outbuildings were used for? Let's see more of the rest of your chateau's outbuildings too.
hahaha. ghosts 14:38 ash is pointing straight at it . these boys r clearly being crafty. very subtle halloween trickery . cute. lol. kudos to their editing skills
Looks like the first space was ice pits to store big ice blocks and to store foods that needed to be kept cool. Dundurn Castle in Hamilton Ontario has rooms like that below as well. Thinking the room off the dining room could have been to keep wine cool and dark or an armory room.
My husband lived in a manor house in Germany that had an escape tunnel that came from a schloss(castle) on a hill hundreds of yards away . Perhaps this is what you are looking at under your chateau.
Yes I believe all Chateau had escape route
Bad boys bad boys what you gonna do when they come for you! I bet Terri shat in his pants when you first screamed as I almost did! Fun vlog! Yes do more exploring for us.
One of your best videos in a long time! I used to do archaeological digs, so I keep thinking - DIG! Or at the very least, clean out the upper room, and shift the stones and rubble from the lower room. If that still doesn't clear anything up, call a local archaeologist or university with an archaeology department. Very interesting, and yes, I'd love to see the other spaces on the property!
I think the only way you will find out is to clean out all the debris. You might be able to get a small camera with a light to pear through the blocked wall under the outside tunnel. Something to keep in mind is that night soil was used to fertilize fields.
I loved this! Especially when the creepy face appeared. I was watching for more ghosts but if they were there I missed them. What fun 👻👻👻
Yes, at 14:39 very quickly saw a “face”!
If you look at it frame by frame it’s mouth opens before it disappears.Scary looking!
@@sharonw4772 I was panicking as I couldn't find a comment from anyone on the face I thought it was just me and if might be real .
@@denisemastromina7821 😂😂 same thoughts!
The jump scares at the beginning of the vid totally got me!!!! 💀😆 Also.... totally peeped that 👻 In the dining room... Eeek... then this guy shows up.. 🕷🕸in the mystery room!! You guys were great.. and totally set the mood. I have to admit.. I'm not a fan of the chateau in the darkness. lol Great episode though!!!!!☺😜😬😯
Very interesting! I love seeing old rooms and outbuildings. Please explore all those spaces with us! So much fun!
I was not startled by the shouting, but that spooky face at 14:38 kind of freaked me out. How did you guys get that in the video?
They're getting good at editing 😁👍
Was reading through comments just to see if anyone else saw it lol
I did!, backed up the video twice to make sure it was the video 😂🫣
I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw it. LOL
@@dominiqueharvey-jones5248 me too! Lol
A few thoughts, The tunnel may have been blocked off at sometime if it had caved in along the route to the chateau, and when you opened the door to the side room and showed the painted paneling above the door. Since its behind the door, Have you ever checked to see if that paneling is behind the rest of the room. They may have had that originally and then at some point remodeled and used the real wood paneling. One more, I dont remember anyone asking if you have discovered where the original stairs were located before they added the tower.
None of the chateau explorers seem to be thinking much about possible revolution or war uses.
Great - awaiting your clear out of the inside room. Maybe wood for the fireplaces?
Seems like a Halloween special! Great finds with unknown uses.
I was thinking the same thing. Lol
Yah!! Me also. Thought I missed a Howellween edition!! Lol!! I haven't jumped that much in a VERY long time!!
I would love for you guys to explore everything, as long as you are safe doing it!
I saw the white spooky face guys lol. Xx
Me too
I’m glad you said something, I thought I was losing my mind. Lol
I think the narrow “window” in the lower room was a shooting hole. From within you have a wide range to view outside for attackers and to shoot at them. while they only had a narrow hole to shoot at. The wall takes away a big part of the view to the left so I expect that the wall and the toilet are from a later date.
That's what I was thinking... Looks VERY much like an arrow slit... where you can on the corner there shoot out from there. I expect that corner of the building to be much older than some of the rest. But it looks very much like a defensive arrow slit to me. Plastered over as well ... later you wouldn't have a need for that. And that beam there and the thickness of that wall there in the dinning room suggests to me that it was some sort of entrance at one time. Or exit. Imagine when you clean all that debris out it'll give more clues... But I am thinking there used to be stairs there and it went out... And that slit down there behind that door was for defense.
It does look like an arrow slit but perhaps too close to the ground for that. The style would also allow ventilation while keeping weather out.
Maybe the ground level has been raised since that part of the building was built.
@@janlipinski6184 I believe that most of this chateau is built on bedrock. The current kitchen, which is a very early part of the chateau is definitely on bedrock.
@@janlipinski6184 That's what I was kinda thinking.... it's possible that the ground wasn't always where it is.
The jump scares in this video were done brilliantly 😂 loved it!
The fact that it's right off the dining room suggests to me that it might have been a wine cellar or some other form of cool storage. The small room could have been a butler's pantry of sorts. Bottles of wine could have been passed up into the pantry from the space below. Just a thought.
Great video. My vote for the room off the dining room is a stairwell with a window, and has been previously commented, access to basement kitchen space below. Meanwhile painted “paneling” was very common and probably predates & underlies the “newer” dining room paneling. Keep up the good work! ❤️❤️ Brian in Florida
Nice touch with the ghost at 14:38 👻 Love it.
With my hubby we are renovating a farm in the French Alpes that goes back to the 17th/18th century, in some of the barns around the stone walls we have the same kind of cubby-holes , they were used to put the candles or lanterns in them.
The narrow "window" is a opening to shoot at enemies who enter.
I vote yes, explore all of the out buildings!!
You made nearly fall off the sofa and even when I replayed it again I jumped. 😮
Please do a video soon on exploring the outbuildings. There may some clues to the past in each one.
We will definitely be doing more 🥰
Love all the puzzles that have come with your beautiful chateau. Not only will it keep you physically fit, but mentally too! I just wonder if they would have placed a toilet so close to public rooms (especially a dining room)? It looks too old to be an add on. Any way to speak to previous owners, families etc? Could probably get a lot of information from them. Anyway, loved your vlog, as always.
This was fun exploring with you two. You scared me with the spider!!! lol. Cant wait to explore more, I would love to see the other buildings.
An outdoor cludgy and the cubbyhole for the cut up newspapers! Haha
More building exploration. Yes please.
I wonder if any French history/architecture professors at universities would be interested in visiting some of the chateau mysteries as a little project for those that want more hands on research?
Love this idea.
Maybe an archaeologist who is better at identifying home spaces from hundreds of years ago. France must have them. England is crawling with them.
Teresa OBrien, That is an excellent idea. Would you have someone in mind ? How to go about getting interviews for selection ?
@@billgreen1861 unfortunately I don’t know of anyone. It just got me thinking that if we’re all this interested, imagine someone who studies these subject. I’m in the States, but a Google search of local universities offering major studies/programs may be a start as well as architectural history clubs. At worst they may be able to point you in the right direction of researching it. The community colleges have been wonderful resources on research. I’ve called the college library myself a few times; Librarians excel at research! Just a thought.
@@teresaobrien663 I still think it's a good idea and I hope they read your comment. In, France there are so many rules and restrictions that they might think there could be a conflict of interest if anyone volunteers to do this. But they should try anyway. 👍
Well, this is very interesting. To me it looks like the original parts of the room to the side could be well older than the chateau proper. Whilst touring through Europe and visiting many medieval fortified castles, I saw lots of arrowslits in them, and that's what the "window" you discovered looks like. "A castle’s Arrowslit or Arrow Loops were narrow vertical apertures in a fortification. From them, archers could launch arrows or crossbowmen bolts. The interior walls behind the arrowslits were usually cut away at an oblique angle in order to give the archer a wide field of view and fire." I love the creepy effects you added into the vlog. It added to the mystery. Spooky! Could the room off the dining room have been a china pantry? Is the paneling from the walls in there? Did any ceiling it may have had collapse? I do believe the walls there could be much older.
That spider part.. I was like nope burn it all down😂
I just screamed. Oh my goodness!
I would put in my vote for additional videos for discovery of out buildings.... they will help you explain the working parts of the old chateau as to how and why... naturally ask around town of the old people that may have worked there decades ago.. OR .. . that they have known similar buildings at other properties in the region or France. REALLY COOL EPISODE!
Very exciting! I won’t be able to join the premier as I will be on the NYC subway where there’s no cell service. Have fun & hello family & Everybody! 🙋♀️ ♥️
You definitely had fun with this video. Made me jump a couple of times!!!! 😂🤣😂
Ash & Terz, that was so intetesting! Rikki Biermann, Pretoria, South Africa 🇿🇦
This was a really good video. Loved seeing you have a chat while you explored the mysteries of the chateau. By the way, the eerie fog was a perfect backdrop for this video. The views in the distance as the fog was lifted were stunning. If walls could talk, they would tell you what has been silenced through the centuries. I’m sure there are historians in the area who could give you more insight. I can’t wait for followups on these mysteries as you find out more information. xx
Yes, it would be cool to see all the outbuildings, and to take up some of the stone and paneling in those sites in this video. Let's see what is beyond or below! Fun video!
Keep looking around.
This was a very cool exploration. And yes please do another video on the other buildings.
Would make a great Time Team episode. Fascinating episode and yes to exploring more buildings 😊
Could it be a root cellar as it is close to the walled garden. They also kept ice blocks in cellars, cut out of lakes, as refrigerators.
You got me...yikes. the spider was quite the touch too. I really enjoyed this looking around, so yes please do the other building if you can. You've a lovely family and such hard workers. You've all come a long way. Thanks for sharing.
Gahhh! Beautiful shots... and you did make me literally jump 🤣😂
I’m so sorry to have missed this live!!! You two are hysterical guides.
What a great video!!!! So much fun exploring unseen parts of your incredible Chateau with you both. Definitely would love more videos like this please. 💖
Jumped out of my skin, Ash!! 😂
I think that is a well. Ashe, you scared the crap out of me. My heart actually stopped for a second. /-:
Loved this one! I'm in the state of Oregon, USA and we also have heavy fog this time of year which made this video even more fun to watch during lunch hour. I jumped out of my chair when the spider crawled across the screen and yelped loud. Thank you for the laugh!!
Loved this episode! I enjoy seeing your whole family, but it was a treat to see just the two of you together. You guys are adorable! Oh, and eek...you scared me twice!
Loving the restoring of Chateau's but adding the great accent makes it even better. Love to all
Could the ‘pantry’ room off of the dining room have been used to store the silver under lock and key?
That was the best opening segment EVER!!!!!❤ I loved this vog, it was different and interesting. Did I jump or scream....nah, not yet. I am a published paranormal author...lol. Exploring more gets a definitive YES from me!! This grand old lady you are restoring is still holding more secrets! Have a great weekend ahead!❤
One episode when the Family was sitting around the table there were many many orbs flying around!
@@rosebudame Orbs??? More likely dust particles...
@@judithdonnelly8824 Dust particles don’t fly like these did! ??
I think we all jumped just then Ash. 😄
an outhouse restoration would be fun
You both could have used this vlog for Halloween for next year, as it obviously was captured after this years, A great vlog. Ash you little shite, ( excuse the phrase) you made me chuck my coffee..... The old findings are great, love exploring old buildings, can't wait till the next one👍❤
It was reasonably common to have a china room where the plates, salvers etc etc were kept, possibly also the cutlery, but it looks a bit too small for that.
Perhaps not too small at the time this was built. Even the wealthy had remarkably few possessions, as shown in inventories associated with wills.
And for the 2nd time, my heart is pounding, I am turning the volume right down now lol😅🤣😂😉
Your “Ghost” at 14:39 was fun!
Great videography at the beginning! What is the face that appears around the 14:40 mark? Is your Chateau listed in that book that Billy Pethericks purchased recently? He just showed it today. Next, do you know the names of the owners back in the 1500's and 1755? I would research what was going on in that area back in / on those dates.
Exactly at 14:39 we can see a ghost face nobody else see it ?
Maybe a secret escape or entrance to get in and out of the chateau. yes, please do another video on the outbuildings. Love the discovery with Ya guys
That’s what I was thinking.
A holiday gift for you!
Thank you so very much 🙏🥰🥰🥰
Oh this was a fun one to watch! Maybe an escape tunnel, the narrow window could've been a shooting hole? @14:38 I had to go back, I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me, brilliant , Terry must've added the spider just for Ash😀 Yes more please!
I personally love the videos of the owners exploring the old buildings out of Château. I’m all for it!
Laughing my socks off, you two scared me so much I nearly trumped in front of my granddaughter. Forgive me I’m a Mancunian. Loved it ❤
Loved the exploration with you, Make that room even if it was a Lieu, Into a china storage room the ceiling needs a chandelier and shelves around edge of room. It is a Magnificent space! Show off the History of the chateau even if this was a Bathroom!.. Sometimes the servants cleaned out the stalls where the waste dropped, there may have been seats to allow a place to clean out from below? Very Cool Video Thank You From Boston, we love you guys!
You make me jump twice Ash , so instrinting your findings.
I would love to see you explore the other out buildings ‼️‼️‼️ Possibly the room near the dining room was for the delivery & storage of coal it probably had an outside door or chute.
💕Maybe the cupboard in the corner had stairs/steps going down to the basement most chateau owners kept wine below stairs where it was cooler OR how they got food up from the kitchen as most chateau kitchens were below stairs as well💕As for the slitted window these were normally in place to put a arrow or rifle through to give a warning shot to stay away💕Failing that it could be a shortcut for post/messages as it is so low💕
Love it when you take us antique shopping such fun.
It would make a great office
Could the pit be where an old well was located which could then have run to some of the other locations as well as being used for storage of milks and cheeses. The hole in the room off of the dining area could have been used for bringing up items stored below.
Great looking at these new places to see and yes, would love to see more. Thank you!!
OMG I jumped lol with fright when you both popped up 😂
Escape tunnel for the overworked staff or cellar! LOL👊👊👏👏👍👍🤶🎅
I agree with the cold room theory for the lower level. The upper level would have warmed in the sun too much. I live in an old building with outside brick walls about 12” thick (about a third of a meter). This is above ground. In the winter, it’s cold. In the summer, it is literally a brick oven. But, I would check with French historians and local owners.
Indeed looks like the sleepy hollow... But I couldn't help but thinking about what are going to transform it into... The room underneath the stairs looks like an end of an escape route... Or maybe it's too many books read on my part 😃
Nice ghostly face at 14:39... had me taking a second look! Great video!
I jumped too!! Thoroughly enjoyed this.
I'd have a lot of battery powered motion activated lights in your chateau first floor until it's remodeled just so not so dark. I have them on my sets of stairs so safe during blackouts.