Engine starter + Hydraulic pump = Something COOL
• Electric + Hydraulic =... - Homemade Electric Wheelbarrow
In today's video, we will show you how to make a hydraulic kit that will be used in the video where we will build an electric vehicle to transport various loads. Link above.
In order for the starter to be used as a motor, I had to lock the axle in one place so that it would not slide out.
Then I made a mounting from the sleeve so that the starter could drive the pump.
When both elements were joined together, I started working on the hydraulic oil tank. I used a large square tube and flat bars for this, which saved a lot of work.
The next step was to connect all the hydraulics and conduct a test.
In the video we showed how much force this set has when crushing various things, but in fact, it will be used to lift the loading box in an electric vehicle.
Hi Guys. A lot of you write about the continuous work of this set, but I haven't mentioned it anywhere. This will be used in a cycle of 10 seconds on, 5 minutes off, so no worries. Some of you may ask "why didn't you buy a hydraulic power pack on ebay?" It is because I wanted to see if it is possible to make such a set and if it will work, and learn more about power hydraulics :)
Only problem you have with this setup is that car starters are nor meant to work for very long time -but still its a nice build well done!
Very cool indeed
@@zumbazumba1 And also the starter use many ampere..
@@zumbazumba1 the same thing was running through my mind when I started watching the video. I have the same starter motor, a few years ago I wanted to make a belt grinder from it, but everyone suggested otherwise. These motors are not designed to run for a long time, so they have no ventilation and cooling system. The motor will eventually heat up and the winding will burn.
@@zumbazumba1 true but... for the time it takes to bend and do its job its perfectly fine i know a man who built an elevator with a car starter and still running after 46 years :) car starter pulley and voila!! an elevator! if you running it all the time 100% duty cycle it gonna overheat and eat the carbon brush:) intermittent use is ok
Instant LIKE and SUBSCRIBE! I'm a welder/fabricator in a shipyard. I have access to tons of old parts in the shop and boneyard that are still serviceable. I was looking for inspiration and ideas when I found your channel. You are skilled and your work says a lot about your ingenuity and vision. Kind thanks for sharing. Greetings from Alaska.
Very nice project and beautifully constructed. It would be good if the motor start/stop could be incorporated into the activation of the hydraulics.
"something cool" is an understatement! This is kick-ass!
I bought a second-hand 4 tonne excavator for my farm last month and have been learning how hydraulics work as well so I can service it myself, which is why I instantly knew what you were doing with the oil reservoir! It's absolutely incredible to me the amount of power such small pumps and motors can produce.
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Absolutely Amazing! Looks like you can make even the Space Shuttle in that shop of yours. 😮
Great video!!!! Straight to the point.....no obnoxious music. Perfect.
Great job! Ive seen starter motor used for an electric scooter. It had so much torque it was almost unmanageable of the line.
Did it have a variable throttle or was it just on or off
Wow! Your level of skills, design, logic, creativity and applied functionality is mind blowing.
Really??? What about the guys who designed the same system for snow plows and other electric hydraulic gear using the exact same motors and pumps.. like DECADES ago??
@@MrSwimmster Right???....they used "Old Starter Motors" from vehicles and a lathe to do so...LOL!
I agree with what others have said about having a switch activate the pump when the lever is moved, would simplify things a bit. Also, you should incorporate a pressure relief valve. This will prevent stalling of the pump and motor when situations arise that could do so, such as when the ram hits end of travel, or load is too high for the system.
Świetne to :D Choć jak zobaczyłem montaż filtra oleju to myślałem, że robisz pompę chłodziwa do jakiejś maszyny cnc...
Upcoming electric vehicle build by you guys? HELL YEAH! Can't wait! I'm designing and building a battery electric tractor, you guys have been a great inspiration.
That home made pump works very well. Good job. Time to make a log splitter for your ram assembly.👍
here, a safety valve is also needed to avoid overload at idle and a damper between the hydraulic pump and the engine, since this pump has no bearings, and the aluminum bushings quickly break if the drive is poorly aligned with the pump. And this electric motor will burn out, since it is not designed for long-term operation.
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That is a great setup! You could do alot with those few items. Its a good stepping off point for more .
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Beautiful work. There is a DC electric pump drive on delivery trucks that have a hydraulic ramp at the back for unloading at street level. I managed to get one from a truck that was being scrapped. It has a pump with a much smaller displacement though.
Loved the inside tank filter, nothing sticks out and could break off, nice idea! :-D
Your channel is awesome. I love the way you build things, 1) to learn more about them; and 2) just to see if you can do it. I am from the US but my wife is from Poland. We will be visiting Poland in a couple of weeks. You have a beautiful country and I love visiting.
Thanks! Greetings to you and your wife :)
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Люблю такие видео и радуюсь за человека, у которого много разного хорошего инструмента.
у меня тоже много инструмента,болда маленькая и большая
@@user-ww1ve1dc9q и какая из голов важнее?
This is awesome little project! Awesome job.
Fantastic work, dude! Really well done! 😃 Looking forward to see the vehicle you're going to build!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Great design. I would like to recommend that you make it so the motor turns on as you push the lever in either direction. This could prevent the early wear and tear on the starter motor.
Agreed. A starter is designed for minimal use on purpose.
You are a tremendously talented fabricator! Love all your videos! I would really like to spend a week working in your shop with you just to be around someone with that kind of ingenuity.
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Great job man !! I smell a cool project coming from this ......now I want to see the electric truck this will go on ......you can't leave me hanging ! Wait he already did.....well I will eagerly await part 2 !! 👍👍
I love the bench vise, how does it work, foot control? man that's awesome I've thought of using an old barber chair foot control to make a quick no hands vise.
Dobra robota jak zwykle
Właśnie mi przypomniałeś że mam 2 pompy zdobyczne po demontażu ramp załadunkowych ;) coś w końcu trzeba będzie z tego wyczarować. Fajna robota. Bardzo lubie Twoje filmy.
Dzięki :)
@01:08 Wow, never thought of disassembling a starter drive that way, what a neat trick! 😍
I like the fact that you don't have obnoxious music in your videos. Good video....Thanks.
*Great build!* As the build progressed I kept thinking it wouldn't take much to connect this to a ram set, a hydraulic work bench, or even a heavy duty floor jack with a modified lifting mechanism like the great modifications you made on the small bottle jack. Lot of possibilities. *Good stuff today.*
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He's building a freaking TANK! you will see soon when he combine all his projects in one :D
I doesn’t look like a Komatsu to me
a wise and talented man :)
Electric tank, only thing you'll hear is the treads rolling
A tracked vehicle is not a tank.
@@EliAngwin be patient...:D
Pretty awesome. I thought that starters heat up pretty quickly and aren't supposed to continuously run too long..?
i admire your imagination and creativity! awesome job
Pompa od władimirca jest moc.👍👍👍
Great video.. the design was sweet and strong as hell. Not that they were bad but I see your editing and videography is getting so much better. keep up the great work.
Great ingenuity ! Well done ! DIY is (always) much better than buying !
I agree, much more fun and gratifying!!
That was awesome !!! You could use that for many things ! That is skill !
Wow nearly 1M subs. And no wonder it’s a great channel. Love your work! 👍
The one improvement I would add in adding a directional switch the the control valve so that when you move in or out the pump will start up. Though I think if you had a electronic control valve it would work a bit better. Either way super awesome build. I use to have one of those 12v pump and I was stupid and sold it cause someone needed it. I could have made a bunch of cool things with it.
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Felicidades, tremendo trabajo como para una prensa. Saludos desde Cuba
Very Nice! It turned out really nice. I can't wait to see you use it.
Like the setup but be interested to know in how long the starter will last and under how much load it cooks the brushes or solenoid, only as i have never had much luck using them for projects like this as they tend to burn out due to large amp draw. It is actually people like yourself who make others think outside the box so thanks :)
Most automotive starters have what is called a 5 and 5 duty cycle. It simply means that you can run for a maximum of 5 seconds and then 5 seconds off. If you extend the run time to say 10 seconds and the cool time left at 5 seconds, it would last significantly shorter and it would still burn out prematurely against normal usage. This is due to the fact that these motors have no provision for cooling. If you were to place the motor in a container that would hold dry ice, the cooling effect would make the motor last much longer.
id say the batteries will have to be replaced before the starter unless constantly on charge
Awesome build my friend you are talented and knowledgeable. Would like to know how well the motor holds up. I wouldn’t imagine it was engineered for running an extended amount of time being a car starter
i agree. Short duty cycle. High current. It will overheat without some cooling.
Also the current should be pretty high even without load, stressing the power supply.
i am not so confident on the longevity of the starter motor but other than that its a supercool project and nicely executed good job dude
Very cool! I am curious or the value comparatively for price of buying a ram setup like this completed compared to piecing it together with the purchase of all the parts and personal time.
Put 2 motor switches on the diverter control to turn it on when you push forward or back; neutral being off.
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Класс ! Хорошая масло станция получилась.
nice build.. Thanks for taking the time to make the video and share it
Nice work. A little hydraulics 101 information... add a filter on the return to the tank and remove the in tank filter. If the in tank filter/strainer plugs it will starve the pump and burn it up before you realize what's going on. Awesome work as usual!
Yes should have been external. 60/ 100 micron? Add valves either side of filter with drain into cup for returning oil into tank?
Masz świetny warsztat i wspaniałe umiejętności ślusarskie. Subskrybuje i czekam na więcej!
Gee I wish that I could afford so much brand new hydraulic valving and hoses LOL
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Hydraulics are very powerful and very unforgiving! Nice work!
Cool build, be great for a tubing bender. Also might need a vent on your fluid tank
He has a vent hole on the lid that screws on with four screws onto the top of his hand cut gasket.
you're lucky to live in a country that has all those tools
@GMT {FS} that's not true, you'd have to order from abroad, pay expensive shipping and duty costs. not worth it for the hobbyist. and for people that don't know, duty tax is based on the cost of the shipping plus the cost of and insurance of what you ordered. it gets very expensive to import things.
That is absolutely amazing !! - Well done - Cool project ! - Much respect to you as always. 👍👍👍👍👍
Cool project bro! Watching from NY State in the USA! 👍🇺🇲
When you think you'v seen it all, this guy goes over the top. 👍👍😋
Pompa od Władimirca T25 wszędzie znajdzie zastosowanie 💪
nawet i w ursusie c360 do wspomagania założyłem
Nie do końca może być z władka może być z innego ruskiego zależy od kierunku
@@pudekoksiazka2256 Ale są i polskie pomy od Hylmet czy Waryński.
@@JanJan-fs8mw powiesz mi że na filmie jest Polska 😁
Don't forget starter motors have a very tiny duty cycle. When loaded, they can only be used 30 seconds after what they need then to be switched off to cool down.
That was what I was thinking. I had an old Jeep that the starter got stuck on with and ignition short it took like min or two before it was melting down. He might get away with it if its for a pipe bender and only runs when the lever is pushed.
Depends on the load too
@@regsparkes6507 not sure but the cheap brushes they put in starters will wear out faster if used as a running motor .was built as a short run device , wiper motor might work better in this idea ..there built to keep running all the time just my thought ..
@@randytravis3998 Well after a bit of looking thru the comments I saw where he was asked " How long can you run it?" He responded with "about 30 to 60 sec" So he is well aware of it's limitations and probably has that figured in to its use.
@@regsparkes6507 the problem with starter motors is they have insufficient cooling. They are closed to protect them from water and corrosion, but because of this the only cooling they have is the mass of material which can absorb the heat. If you use it as a starter it will cool down until you need it the next time, it's not usable for a longer time however without getting hot.
Nice, the look reminds me of the old Detroit Diesel turbine air starters that operated like an impact gun.
Thanks for sharing !! Great work!!
A small electric forklift would be very cool :-) !
Ooo, ooo, a loader bucket for your garden tractor. Oh, and a hydraulic dump trailer for it too. I think I'm on a roll here. Give me a few minutes...
Wow! How long can run the starter without damage it?
I think that 30-60 seconds is safe.
@@MadeinPolandChannel Thank you!
Poland engineer number 1, so impressed Sir ! thankyou
You and Donn diy should get together sweetie!!! Your both exceptional craftsman!!! He's building a PTO driven timber trailer at the moment!!! And has a machine shop at his disposal as well baby cakes!!!
Не вероятно проделанная работа, но мне кажется малооборотистый двигатель на 220 был бы уместнее, а так самоделка имеет очень много векторов продолжения, хоть самосвал делай из бортового, хоть дровокол 👍
Он не потянет и к тому же, будут очень большие обороты!
@@user-tk9zr9ks4r кто мешает поставить 3х фазный тысячник через понижающий редуктор?
нш-10 ему нужно 3000 оборотов от двигателя + мощность в зависимости от необходимого давления!
@@user-ui5mf6xe5q тут грамотный расчет нужен
@@SlyLitleFox согласен! у нас такой насос стоит на гидравлике только нш-50!
Fun fact: At lighter loads most common starter motors can run for a few minutes non-stop without overheating or damage.
Jak zawsze super, pozdrawiam.
Impress your adaptability and build these amazing engines with simple materials, congratulations!
be nice to see a micro switch hooked to the lever so it runs when you push or pull
you can use this to add two arms to the side of a car with hulk gloves so you can hulk smash things out of your way
Świetny pomysł 😎
The Pole's project will surely be a giant mechanical robot!!!!!
So that's what a board stretcher looks like.
Człowieku, gdzie jest nasz rozrusznik z ciągnika Belarus ?
I pompa od mtz
Can't wait to see part 2!
Good job, I suggested put the button in the hydraulic lever to keep your second free hand 🙂
Пять баллов 👏👍🔥😁
Из тысячи😁👍
I love engineering projects like this. From one KZhead Polock, to another... Well done. ( My great grandparents were made in Poland. :)
Polock? You're insulting them. Polock is sinister word.
@@mateuszsiwik9272 I guess you didn't see the 10 letter last name ending in 'SKI'. He's Ok to call a fellow countryman a polock. Just don't anybody else do it.
@@user-io4sr7vg1v ask a brother in the hood he will say the same
Are you /that/ Joe P? Yes, yes you are!
This whole thread was cringe
Excellent work done.Keep it up
You have the. Best DYI. Projects. On U tube. I built the vise. Project everybody see it wants one. Next time ill pay for water jet cut. Oxacleden. I had too much clean up. But works great thankyou
если поставить цилиндр большего диаметра, он будет медленнее -но мощьнее
мощность такая же. медленнее, но сильнее.
@@user-sm8bc4db3j ,блин я это и имел в виду-сильнее( мощтнее)
а если поставить пластинчатый насос, или аксиальник какой....
теперь я понял как сделать подъем кузова на своем уаз 3303
если будете повторять конструкцию, обратите внимание на то, что насосы есть правого и левого вращения. также и стартеры могут вращаться как вправо, так и влево и для нормальной работы важно. чтоб все вращалось в правильном направлении и еще такой входной фильтр как на видео будет работать только в теплой мастерской, в наших условиях, зимой, это может не прокатить, масло загустеет и насос не сможет его нормально всосать, вообще ниразу не встречал, чтоб на вход ставили бумажный фильтр, всегда сетка, бумажный ставят на сливную линию в бак.
А лучше навесной на двигатель сделать нш. У меня на 3151 так сделано
@@user-yb4de5yi2x Навесной ? Это типа он всегда вращается ?
@@user-dv1rg7oq5r можно сделать через электромуфту как компрессор кондиционера.
И на УАЗе 12 вольт, слишком большая нагрузка на аккумулятор. Надёжнее с помощью ремня и электромуфты компрессора кондиционера.
That’s a very similar setup to how our one man aerial lifts work. Looks just like a 12v starter motor.
Klass! So interesting and impressive work! 5+
Hey MadeInPoland. When SHTF in good old USA, you're coming over here as King of Revolutionary Innovation, ok?
1st innovation: United States of Poland 👍
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Все классно, только мотор стартера не рассчитан на длительную работу, будет греться и сдохнет.
на прессе долго не работают в домашних условиях. но сдохнуть может все.. как говорится сдуру можно и ш*ю сломать
@@CrazyPit тем более дома-проще сетевой мотор поставить на 220 или 380 вольт.
Подскажите, пожалуйста, что за клапан такой . По возможности, принцип работы и отечественные аналоги. Заранее спасибо.
@@user-oq3jo5jg6x система на видео проста как мычание, насос наш, стандартный НШ 10, левого вращения, в роли привода - стартер от неизвестного авто(пересмотрел видео, стартер от МТЗ 82), несколько РВД, штуцеров, гидроцилиндр и распределитель наподобие Р40, не хватает предохранительного клапана и есть вопросы к фильтру на входе в насос, а так для гаража пойдет, принцип работы, электромотор вращает насос, насос забирает масло из бака и нагнетает в линию подачи, на линии подачи стоит гидрораспределитель и переливает все масло в бак, система работает в холостую, как только вы переключаете ручку на распределителе, вы перенаправляет поток масла в одну или другую полость гидроцилиндра, одновременно за счёт своей конструкции, распределитель перекрывает слив бак и для насоса создаётся сопротивление, что вызывает повышение давления, повышенное давление двигает поршень цилиндра и тем самым выполняется нужная нам работа, это вкратце, не вдаваясь в подробности
@@user-oq3jo5jg6x похож на Гидрораспределитель P40
Rozrusznik z Belarusa Pompa z Belarusa to połączenie będzie dobre 😉
Best idea ever. I love using part laying around my shop and save money.
Kurwa geniusz :D
Время работы стартера всего несколько часов, далее замена щёток, но перегрев и отвал магнитов наступит раньше
А еще в маслянной станции должен быть сапун.... Но им это не важно, главное палку сломал....
Конкректно на этом- электромагниты.
@@antoniomontana2232 нет там магнитов диванный электрик.
@@sovok2170 на статоре невооруженным глазом видны четыре винта которые удерживают башмаки электромагнитом, подчеркиваю- злектромагнитов, статора. Постоянных магнитов в этой модели нет. И в ней нет ничего приклеенного.
Применение сомнительное!
Great job milling it n making it fit !
Magnificent metal work..
This is why I believe even after an "apocalyptic" event there's still half a million dudes in the us rn who do this for a living, well be fine. Wifi will be back up in 2 weeks
Actually, in the event of an apocalypse, I will be setting up a mesh network with read-only access to my storage drives within a day.
@@zoomer2965 best to store this backup driving a nice lead box, electromagnetic pulse waves from a nuke will take out most memory devices
@@ddiablolll If the nuke is close enough for the EMP to matter, I probably have other things to worry about. That said, the house I'm in is practically a bunker, so some of the drives in my 24TB RAID array will probably survive.
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Bacana a montagem a adaptação, bem trabalhosa e tal, mas eu não consegui entender onde ele vai usar aquilo.
А где сопун дорогой ты мой?
But do you realize, that an engine starter is not long term operation motor? It has no cooling, so you have to let it cool itself by not using it for couple of times more time than you want it to work...
I was thinking the same thing, but he may be able to cool it by submerging it into the hydraulic fluid tank, the same way in tank fuel pumps are.
Depending on the application, that may not be an issue.
I have a gantry crane I bought at Harbor freight,I think it's 40 60 duty cycle. Can't remember exactly but it's like use 60 seconds and let cool 40 seconds. This guy should be fine.
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If you don’t use it continuously I think the starter will be ok. Like in a tilt bed trailer I don’t think it would ever overheat as you cant load and unload that quickly
Something for thought is the filter. The system will be less problematic down the road if your filter were to plug, it would let the pump cavitate, and possibly ingest filter material into the system. Being the unit is compact it would be more in the way to put a serviceable housing on the return with pressure gauge { to monitor function} on the exhaust line. But more efficient.
Very interesting engineering. What heater do you use for unhardening?