New vs Old Land Rover Defender - TUG OF WAR
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We know you tug of war fans have been looking forward to this one... We've got the all-new Defender with us, and it's going head-to-head against the previous generation!
When it was first unveiled, a number of Defender fanboys came out saying they weren't happy with the latest generation. But does it really deserve all the hate?! People have claimed it wouldn't be able to compete with the power of the older model, so we thought this would be the perfect way to put it to the test!
But who's your money on? Does the older model have what it takes to claim the win? Or will the tech that's packed into the latest release be enough to pull it to victory? There's only one way to find out - LET'S GO!
Thanks to Nene Overland for lending us the old Defender - www.neneoverland.co.uk/
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New vs Old... Which are you choosing?
Old
Old is gold... New is refrigerator on wheels and its not reliable like all rovers... My only favorite new rover is the sport svr.
New
Newwwww💯🤟🏼
old
Petition for Mat vs Yianni in a drag race with a bicycle.
make that eBikes! (and chip matt's without telling Yianni..........)
Signed!😂
Omg I'd kill to see this 😂😂😂
No bike seat is big enough for Yanni's A...
Do an all Toyota Hybrid drag race. - Corolla - Auris - Prius - Yaris Pls man I wanna see this happen.
Tug of war between a Ford Bronco and Defender
@Neel Javia the old one
@Neel Javia We all know that ford in general is crap but... "Only one way too find out"
No one can beat a Land Rover in Tug of war
Bronco driven by OJ Simpson.
@Seamus McShamish I disagree. Real car enthusiasts are happy to sacrifice a bit of reliability for the landrover culture, history and better respectability.
"I'm gonna pull off in second gear" says a man in a tug of war contest 😂
Diff locks???
@@pugtop Matt his locked
With those tires on the old one, I would have gone full throttle, some wheelspin is actually useful when pulling out of mud or snow, especially with a locking diff. I daily drive a RWD, and the only way to get out of heavy snow is by disabling the ESP and drifting myself out of it
Still only center diff lock in the defender iirc
Do a tug of war against those lorries/trucks you drag raced. The Mercedes-Benz truck vs the Scania scaenia scaniai scandal truck name...
Who's gonna pay if one of them broke?
@@kerenkan9217 that dude lol. I think his name is Ashville.
Epic
@@kerenkan9217 one truck was Ashevilles he smashed into a golf so I doubt hes bothered about a tug of war lol
too expensive
Spoiler: the land rover defender won
OMG why did you have to give it away! 😑😤😪🙄
i knew it
*The Land Rover Defender* that other one is trash.
@Aaron Lhungdim my point exactly...
@Aaron Lhungdim that's why these types of jokes needs to be stopped
I'm so surprised that the more modern, double as powerful, torquier and more heavy car won this tug of war... not.
But old had a far better tyre...
So they should've had the same tires and they should've put an extra 300 kg weight in the old one :-)
Thanks for saving me waste time watching this, it was always going to be that result when they're paid to give it
But only if the new one works and has no electrical failure... which is not often the case. Land Rover were never reliable no they added all the electronic, good luck. Check tfl KZhead quite interesting experience with their new defenders... a nightmare
I too was shocked.....Not.... but I suppose time will tell How long the clever electric last
I can smell the clutch from here.
New one looks pretty good but the older one has the iconic look.
Couldn't agree more mate
I agree the only Land Rovers I like are the older ones
Yup
New one looks like a Chelsea tractor and I'd hate to get in it with muddy wellies.
You're right the old looks like a jungle jeep😮
Didnt engage diff lock in the old one. So essentially when when the wheels start spinning all the drive will go through one wheel
Exactly not a fair fight
Yeah needs to do this one again
Still would not make a difference the new one is miles ahead
I think Matt knows about diff lock by now. He's mentioned it enough in the past
I though the same looked like it had not engaged
I love how they realised for the 2nd tug “ crap we need to move the cone” 😅
Low range was engaged but the lever was over to the right so the diff lock wasn't engaged. Essentially the Pretender beat the Defender while the Defender was in 1 wheel drive mode. You also have a clutch - use it to advantage to get the load moving the way it is meant to move.
The old defender is just for show the new ones are work horses.
Matt you should Drag Race this cars together: • Audi RSQ8 •Porsche Cayenne Turbo Coupé •Mercedes-Benz GLE 63s •BMW X6M Competition • Lamborghini Urus • Bentley Bentayga Speed • Range Rover Sport SVR • Jeep GC Trackhawk I know you can't drag race them all at once but it can be great
I'd say replace the porsche cayenne turbo coupe with porsche cayenne turbo s e hybrid coupe for a fairer comparison
These ppl🤦♂️
And a Trackhawk👀😁
@@sevens6666 what?
george ibrahim it’ll be very hard to gather all these expensive cars together but if they did, they cant drag race all 7 of them at once
This is what computers are doing to your car!
They're turning the damn frogs gay?
@chris murphy nah, ur just behind the times
Omg you're commenting on every vid
@@sharas3180 what's the fun to be driving a car that does everything for you?
Making it even better
It may sound counterintuitive but because the old one has open mechanical diffs you need to feather the brakes to load resistance onto the free spinning wheel so that the power is more evenly distributed between all the wheels. Or for the price of a couple of wing mirrors on the new one just buy front and rear diff lockers. The new Defender is fantastic out of the box if you’re not experienced, and just speaking personally- I wouldn’t want to be in an accident in the old one, even though I own one ha ha.
Thank you I was waiting for this
0:14 look a the amount of flex in the wheel
@Seamus McShamish kzhead.info/sun/n92glr2cioeidWg/bejne.html
You can tell the course has been specially set up for the new Defender especially on the rut bit on the other vid where the old one got stuck-no coincidence! unfortunately correspondants won't get another car to review if they are derrogatory. The old defender was loved because it was a no gimmicks no airbags basics farm vehicle that was'nt bought for the road-thats what the disco was for!
we need more tug of wars of any kind no matter what car it is :) love your videos
Only the Queen knows how to steer her old friend I mean the defender
Queen know how to ride dinosaur
@@kecoakerok8240 Shut up kecoa, who is you
@@fitti2678 who are you*
@@s.2124 Who am i ,who is You
@@kecoakerok8240 lmfao
New defender vs Hummer H1. Who's up for this
Not a good comparison
EV Defender when..
@@dr.science_0177 Yeah the weight difference is too massive.
A H1 with Cummins diesel
Meeeeee😂😂😂
I am afraid it’s just a matter of time when the first computers on the new Defender start to fail... My 1995 Land Rover Defender Tdi is still purring around 😉
Zzzzz. Your 95 defender has needed a load of work, don’t lie
That old saying is dead and buried. I remember when the discovery 3 came out. We heard the same old claptrap. 15 years old/later & it’s still going like a dream. Ok mine is the 4.4 V8, so probably the more reliable engine than the tdv6. But it’s full of ecu computers terrain response trickery & they are all still working like the day it was new.
‘purring’ haha. (1987 110 owner).
See TFL's 2020 Defender story of misery
Some of the best Defenders were sold here in Australia- JRA brought them to Australia with the option of a Isuzu 3.9 diesel- bombproof next to the Rover V8
All these reviews are great matt. Yes the new one might win but that's only on the days the computers work...in landrover case not very often
Now have a competition fixing them in the middle of nowhere with only a screwdriver and a socket set?!
Ouch hahaha. Hillarious.
Can you please make a comparison between the New Defender, and the "New" Discovery, both on- and off road? It would be interesting to see these two compared...
They made an off road video
They would both need the same tyres and number of diff locks for it to be a fair comparison.
kzhead.info/sun/f5yoYqaManx5moU/bejne.html
@@SackAttack81 On this comparison, or between the new defender and the disco?
@@drano1614 I meant the new Defender and the Discovery 5. But that should have been done with both Defenders as well. I am not sure that the diff lock on the old Defender was engaged. They also should have used an old Defender with a bigger engine more on par with the new Defender as well.
It is not the failure of the cars... It’s about Matt’s driving.
Maybe get someone who knows how to drive would make the difference
I think the Defender being in second gear, going forward, with the clutch out and STILL getting dragged backwards as soon as the new one engaged some power nullified the driving skill argument. This is a striking result (and I really like the old Defender).
I thought just like you!
No it was definitely the vehicles. I prefer the old model but have to admit the new one is quite impressive.
bring a defender vr G wagon .
Defender will🔥
G Wagon lost against the RR Sport. This Def if anything has even better traction than the RR, so...
Definitely Defender will defeat G wagon
@@LucaCoppadoro g wagon with off road knobbly tyres vs defender
@@Smexy_af with the exact same tires it could be interesting...
The older version are timeless
The song "Timeless??? 😂
Amazing! Never thought I'd be finish watching this video!
That terrain response did a sublime job 👌
I still wouldn't buy the new Defender. The old one still looks dope
👍🏻🧐
Ok
Go ahead
Dope ?
In the middle of the Aussie outback, I definitely wouldn't choose the Defender that has a million electronic things that could fail
Fact: Land Rover will win
For the old defender being so beat on the numbers.. it put up a good fight. 👊
Do an all Toyota Hybrid drag race. - Corolla - Auris - Prius - Yaris Pls man I wanna see this happen.
Yepppp
Uber car drag race
How about racing a BMW Isseta and a reliant robin...
Toyota boring
Honda Insight vs Toyota Prius
Since Matt has even brought Trucks to race who else will one day hope to see Even Buses drag race😁😁
And airplaines
@@m.a.g.a9173 yeah!!like those jet fighters
What about trains
@@lowrider69yearsago58 🤣 maybe hot air balloons
He needs to do a drag race for buses in 🇱🇰
I really like that new Discovery. The soundsystem and the massage seats are awesome.
Mat the old one does have traction control and ABS, I’m rather disappointed that you didn’t to your research:(
New Defender vs Ashville's Disco 5: Tug of war + Drag race
Carwow: "NEW or the VINTAGE?" EVERYONE: "Doesn't matter we came for GREATNESS!"
Ya the old ones are way better
new one is a million times better except less reliable
Old Defender has a centre diff lock which needs to be engaged doesn't look like it has, also would expect the 2.2 Defender Puma to have traction control been on Defs since the TD5 days as Land Rover didn't install axle diff locks although you can fit them aftermarket
Tug like mad? That's what I do every time carwow uploads a video
I just stare at my phone and wait for carwow to upload, love it
Get some fresh air.
@@mattyg2540 can't with face mask on
@@morepanicboy7120 since when was it required by law to wear a face mask in your local park? Stupid excuse 😂
Just put the notification on
I hope the new defender didn't have to visit the dealership for a repair after pulling the old mighty defender.LOL😂
@Seamus McShamish , They're great if you know how to maintain them. Like all vehicles they have their faults, they're certainly not junk though.
Watch TFL channel and you will get the answer
Oh please TFL’s car is just a lemon. Not all of em are. We had our defender x for about 6 months now. We have 20,000 miles on it. Perfectly fine. Land Rover is great.
@@themarauder6108 from your pfp you might seem a bit biased, nah but for real land cruiser is where it's at
But guess what our defender has no problems dumbass. Nothing is going on. My family member also has a defender first edition. His has 13,000 miles. No damn issues.
This seems like a promotional work
Thank you for keeping it short Matt
I love the new one but, the old one never gets old. :)
Reminds me of when I used to do tug of war with my dad. Lost every match.
Watching this after watching the new defender from Stafford pull a loaded car transporter. The new defender just got so much power 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
The "new one" will not survive long in the wild, because the "normal" person can no longer lend a hand!!! "Helicopter deployment, helicopter deployment" ...
most ppl wont take it serious off roading tho
Waited for this
I love these vids too 😲🤓
The new one had rope attached higher then the old one. Its big advantage
Yes this renders the whole exercise futile without a purely horizontal pull.
The new one would still win. Stop complaining. Just suck it and move on. Complain complain complain.
@@Keoponloeu new defender is just a fancy suv old model is a true defender
@@Keoponloeu Im not complaining XD I just would like to watch a fair fight. Do you think I give a fuck about which one would win XD
That's impressive!! I kinda wish the new one looked more like the old one a bit more.
If the older one was in production right now, then the older one definitely. I love the look of the Older Defender, but the new Defender is a Banger too !!
That was no fun to me .. doesn't matter, old defender still the ultimate off-roader
The old one is still the best
Check out the "new vs old defender offroad test" by carwow and you might change your mind. The new Defender makes it look like it's taking a stroll to the shops.
@@TROPtastic mmm... I saw it, it made me a little bit upset... they made the old one look like a rubbish... and old one is ultimate extreme offroader... the new one is an SUV, the old one is a truck.. plus the tests involved speed and response, so new defender was going to win in anything that includes speed, comfort, response, etc... but if you go to extreme offroad, plus you are a good driver of course, cause that’s basically what you need for the old to be good of course... the new one helps you with everything, even though you can watch mor offroading videos between these too, and you’ll see what I’m talking about
Depends on what you want something for the defender is supposed to be a work vehicle to me and many others in that case old trumps new in every way.
Nice
Did you watch it ?
Noice
Yes
Nice you 1st
“Here comes the cone” 😂😂😂. I felt that
The terrain response repair bill amongst others in that will also be amazing when it spends more time in the garage having numerous repairs done on its electronics as are this company is famous for.
U should do atug of war of land rover discovery vs new defender
Hey mat, do a tug of war between Defender P400 Vs G63 AMG Vs Range Rover Sport SVR.
Nothing beats a good tug on a saturday morning
Nice video. Can you do a drag race with these two cars?
Carwow should do a tug of war with a discover 5 and the new defender
Ps: Matt if you knew how to drive off road it would also help!
The old defender has open diffs on the axles, so it has only got two wheel drive, one front and one back. It has no traction control to balance it out. I used to run Quaife ATB diffs back and front, which transforms it.
I have only seen two new defenders, a teacher at my school has one and someone that lives in my town :)
Who wants tug of war between hummer and the (old defender+new defender)
I've yet to see anyone do an actual fair tug of war, the new defender is pulling higher, it'll win every time.
@Seamus McShamish absolutely land rover are paying them to make up for their mistakes
@Seamus McShamish and he hasn't driven the manual and so long he probably doesn't even know how to ingauge the lock
@Seamus McShamish no don't think so he's getting to much expensive German cars that do everything for you he'd be hopeless in a early 00s car with 0 electric Nanny's
A heavier, more powerful and torque vehicle is going to win every time, so what exactly is this video supposed to prove?
@@onetonlandrover ya I can't understand it either
That's impressive... I was expecting the old defender to walk it on those tyres!
Do more of these pls
Drove an old 90 the other day.Hell its old fashioned inside and found it easier when doing tight manoeuvres to open the window and have my elbow out lol. Frankly it was great !!!!
“Stop, stop! I’ve lost, I’ve lost... AT EVERYTHING!”
I would like to see a drag race between a pair of power boats. And a tug of war of course
Did you use the diff lock with the old defender? or just low ratio and 1st gear?
The new defender is definitely underrated.
Ye it's a great car really it's just that many people think it doesn't look like a defender and so they're just hating on it. I think it's a great car and considering how old the original is, the new defender would have looked something like the new one anyway.
I expected a drag race instead 😂
On my KZhead feed the video length image partially hides the R in the title, leaving TUG OF WAP. This, is where I’d like Carwow to go next!
Tug of war is super waiting for next episode
4:07 you can hear him laughing from the outside.
Not gonna lie, I would much rather drive the new Defender everyday on the road than the old Defender
@Seamus McShamish ehhhhhh.....
@@injin5557 they actually suck to drive so
then a car may be a better option
@Seamus McShamish no they are not, one is an off road icon and the other is supremely comfortable on road
@@ACplanet you mean a sedan, the word "car" is derived from the word "carriage", so all types of cars are cars
Old body and new features and technology....... Best matching ever !
So good the new one even having disadvantage of road tyres it managed to pull the old one with ease. I wonder however why the didn't switch the directions of pul, they should have just to eliminate any sort of questions whether one of the cars was pulling slightly more downhill then the other........
I think this is the way forward for me,doing car of war,my mates wind me up for having no guns
Just one thing: 56000£!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant wait to see if this suspension and other things are still working after 40 years like the old and reliable Defender!!!!!!!!!!
How many 40 year old cars do you see driving around
@@Archiepopop from 1980????? a lot!!!!!!!!!!!
Omg you didnt make this simple video 12 minutes long? Actual big thank you for that
I think there needs to be an AMA with your editor! HAHAHAHA!
Why did you not use the V8 defender?
UK is boring and v8 can be very expensive in UK so mabe that's why 🤔
@@reece005 good point actually
Next Suggestion: G Wagon Vs New Defender
I honestly was not expecting that!
Old cars: Driver assistance required. New cars: Driver not necessary.
Mat Watson for Top Gear ⬇️
Hi northern accent would annoy people like me from Surrey to much couldn't watch him for an hr
Top Gear is history
You're kidding right. He can't even say "sitting". Every video it's "I'm sat in ...". The twat drives me nuts.
@Seamus McShamish drives better than you tho
@@markc6714 Why are you watching their videos then?
Do a drag race with a 1000HP BMW M5 VS 1000HP MK4 Supra🙏🙏🙏
No
@@Patess yesh👍
Seamus McShamish the supra is a very outdated car, the M5 is much newer and it has launch control aswell as many other assists which can help it out
The way he said no no and oh oh just reminded me of the gods must be crazy🤣🤣
Thumbnail had me thinking of cartoons 😂Great video though 👌💯
AMG G63 vs New Land Rover Defender - TUG OF WAR
Got to wait for the V8 defender to come out first
Thumbnail - "Tug of WAP" 👁️👄👁️
Hey Mat, We would love to see a tug of war between New defender top model vs any SUV in Premium segment like Lamborghini, Mercedes, Aston Martin or others.
A tug of war between Mat and his team and Yianni and his guys....😁😆.
I’m sticking with the old Landrover Defender that’s a solid SUV I love ❤️ my old Landrover TDi.
It's not an SUV. It's a car, or a 4x4 if you must.