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great video man, really appreciate the effort you made
Awesome video. Scratches my itch of finding out what mice pros are using and trying to find some kind of pattern of what the best mouse is.
There is no such thing as 'best mouse'. Best mouse FOR YOU, now that's a completely different topic. We need exact hand size and grip style to start searching properly.
this is quality content, your channel is so underrated!
Hampus is my favorite player and I gotta say him using the deathadder was a surprise when I found out. He said in an interview that moving his mouse was so much work that he is lazy and will turn corners using buttons binded to +left and +right
I can certainly see the Viper V2 Pro and Deathadder V3 Pro becoming more and more common in the coming years. The Viper V2 Pro is the first mouse that can compete with the GPX and it just hasn't been around long enough I feel. And with the new Deathadder seeming like a straight upgrade from an EC, I can see it getting some use as well.
I think the issue with the V2 Pro is that there weren't many players using the Razer Viper anyway. With the Superlight a lot of players were coming from the GPW already.
V2 pro shape might be too flat for them.
DA V3 probably is the best mouse atm but I can't justify 50$ over g pro superlight. Maybe if they decrease the price I can start to recommend for people and buy me a white one
@@DiamondLobbyReviews The GPW was tragically bad though, everyone I know that had a GPW had that mouse and it broke in some way or another, mostly problems with the switches, the clicks. That said I have the GPX, had it since it came out and no problems yet.
My problem with the viper v2 is the clicks. The mouse is so light but the clicks are so hard. I feel like when I go to click the weight of the push of the click moves the curser just a hair where it ruins one taps for me
The mouse doesn’t matter as long as the sensor is good and the delay is low, it’s all about personal preference.
Deathadder Elite by Hampus has always been a bittersweet feeling for me since it is probably my all-time favorite mouse and he's making it shine. Oh and the VAXEE thing is because pros got them for free and ended up sticking with them for being better Zowie alternatives.
My friend had this mouse and after trying it out for a solid 2 seconds, I had cramp in my hand.
me too, still using it.
Still using the Deathadder Elite rn but I'm about to transition to the Deathadder V3 soon, so 😿
Strange how none of the EC2 chads have switched to something like the Xlite V2 by Pulsar, that thing's a beast as well
6 yrs with my FK1 and still like day 1
DAV3 ;)
@@bonzai_303 refunded that one underwhelming
xlite v1 off launch day still kicking
had a gpro superlight for ages, but changed to razer deathadder v3 with 4k dongle
Love the work that went into this video! Is there a fun fact about Riflers vs Awpers or are they about the same in terms of mice?
I was going to look in to that but my "data analysing" limit is reached past a certain amount of numbers I have to look at.
Ran the MOW for a year until my hand adapted to Ambi mice. The quality is just creaky and not great (it the was original rev with Omrons). Then went down the rabbit hole and tried DAV3, Pulsar X2 Medium, and GPX. The GPX unquestionably performed the best in all aspects in my hands and I ended up keeping it and returning the others. The DAV3 is great and perhaps a slightly better sensor the motion tracking is incredibly smooth and responsive. The GPX sensor is just a tiny hair below it but in game it's not noticeable and all the other factors come into play like mouse texture, click feel and response, and overall shape. The DAV3 is not athletic enough for me as the mouse base is too wide for flicks and resetting the mouse down. The GPX is just that sweet spot. Pulsar doesn't even come close to these mice in click feel, quality, and sensor motion. It's lighter and looks cool but that's it.
I just got a superlight on boxing day and I love it. Took me a little bit to get used too it, and I had to lower my sens in a few games but now it’s a 10/10
Hey, great content, man! Can you give me an estimate, how many of them played wireless? Thanks!
if you're considering a superlight and have smaller hands its a bit less comfortable, it has a big hump which can get in the way depending on your grip.
what would you recommend alternatively?
i even think the superlight is too small, i changed from a ec2-b and would love for the superlight to be slightly bigger.
@@JavedAnt You can look up the superlight measurements and compare to you current mouse and see if its to big its pretty normal size. If you want it smaller i would recommend the Razer Viper Mini
I’m suprised that no one’s really using the g703. Wonder if Logitech is going to wake up after the DA V3 release
They know about my modding abilities and have realised I've already cornered that market.
Hahahahahahahah
I've seen electronic playing with the g703
s0m used to use G703 but he just change to GproX
I think the G703 has had double click issues in the past right? Or maybe it’s just the weight advantage of the GPX and other
The G303 Shroud edition, best claw/fingertip mouse hands down.
This was a fun (and educational??) video :) protip if you want to do rotating shots of gear, you can plop it on a lazy Susan and just give that a spin instead of trying to maneuver around it
I had a choice viper elite vs gpro superlight. I sticked with viper and i am happy, although gpro is always possible as replacement
ive had the superlight like for a 1-2 months now. Its my 1st wireless one, pretty handy, ton of battery duration. But it takes so much getting used to, its kinda big compared to my model-o glorious mouse. IF they only made it more compact...
do they have a cheaper model that isnt wireless?
This is actual quality content lmaoo thanks for the video!
nafany is using viper ultimate not v2 pro watch any cloud9 match and you will see buttons on the right side of the mouse and of course charging dock on the table
Interesting to see the Glorious Model D here. I used the wired Model and it was not alot of fun. The mouse feels good in my Hand and all but it started very early to Show the first Problems. The clicking was like super mushy (i think thats the Word). It felt like the mouse Buttons had to travel a big distance before they Hit the Switches and over time the mouse started rattling and all the Buttons started to feel very loose. it felt like the whole thing was falling apart. I dont wanna be to negative, mabye they have Improved their build quality or maybe i was just unlucky but i wouldnt recommend getting a glorious mouse. Got a G502 Hero now and im really happy with that one. Alright, thats all. Great Video 👍
Aye I'm using a wired Model D right now as well, and I've found similar issues, so things like jitter clicking have become very difficult as of late due to this high travel time. Looking into getting a superlight or viper v2 pro as a replacement as I've heard the issues are less persistent in those two
Currently using the Glorious Model D wireless. It's one of the best lightweight ergo mice that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Only two downsides I can think of are the poor battery life with RGB on and dealing with debounce levels. Other than that, the size is perfect for my hand and the buttons and mouse clicks are extremely satisfying to use.
glorious omegalul
I really like how light the regular g pro is. I feel like anything lighter than that would have me throwing it across the room on accident.
I had got a super light and went back to Regular GPW
Yoo keep going man
Wich mouse is the best for the pros ? The one that pays them better for the sponsorshipm
Great video. love all the details and info, real good stuff here. Do it again with CSGO Pros mousepads?
Pros don't use mousepads
I remember when I was naive kid and bought razer death adder like the famous 1 tapper ScreaM :D That trash is still under my bed - wheel started glitching a week in, left mouse button broke a couple months later (famous double clicking started). 2 years later lmb is always pressed and mousewheel is inside the mouse. Mouse skates worn out too in a few months. Meanwhile my current FK from zowie is still like new 3-4 years in. Best mouse by far. If it ever breaks down, I'll buy wireless logitech.
Really wanted to get a v2 pro for the best switches, sensor and ideal shape for fingertip grip. HOWEVER, I read multiple complaints about the Razer software and the wireless mode failing so I went with the superlight.
bro i think your avatar already received the fingertip grip
Is it worth upgrading to Logitech g Pro x super light or Viper V2 pro from a Viper Mini? For the 95% of the time, it's awesome but the rest 5% of the time I get bothered by the cord. I don't need to upgrade but I really want to.
Hope we can get another video like this, but for keyboards.
Keyboards don’t really matter in cs
Literally any keyboard will do. If you play games like osu you might find that the keyboard latency is a factor.
@@geedot4241 they do, but there'll be no such video because people mostly use custom keyboards
Honestly CSGO pros, outside of sponsorships, are like the least likely to adapt a new product. I mean they were all playing basically 640x480 on CRT's (can't blame them for the CRT part tbh, dat dere motion clarity
You said the Deathadder is the most weight but the Steelseries Rival 300 used by Fer is 130 grams haha. Kinda insane.
Superlight and DAV3 are the way to go. Simple, light, wireless, and high performance. There are no other buttons ruining the flush feeling of the mouse which makes it very ergonomic for games.
and overpriced...
@@cristianrosca5997 You can't expect top tier performance to be cheap and affordable.
@@Xenon_001 lol its not top tier
@@cristianrosca5997 how is the dav3 not top tier lol
@@cristianrosca5997 Deathadder V3 wired is $55 on Amazon now
i switched from a glorious model d- to a zowie ec1-c and it made my gameplay better
I had so much fun halfway through the video that I had to pause it, otherwise I would not have been able to contain my joy!
Love my Superlight, really comfortable wireless mouse, good quality and reliability. My previous EC2-A was a bit heavy, but speaking about ergonomics is all true. But real king for me always gonna be Kana V2, this mouse in my heart forever.
I ve always played the ec2 a but now i don't know it's the ec2 c wired oder the superlight better what would you say?
Niko actually get a superlight now Playing with and has to change is sensitivity because of the weight
I use to have g403, then g703 which both double clicked so i switched to hot swappable switches on Tecware Pulse Elite.
i switched to a Razer Viper Ultimate for that exact reason as well. Double clicks are just gone.
double clicking is sadly an issue on alot of logitech mice my g703 started double clicking after couple of weeks
Awesome video!
I made your 1000th like on this video, great stuff.
I personally didn't buy the superlight becuase it was too light in my hand so I bought the regular one.
The super light is absolutely f*cking amazing. If it weren't for the damn charging bugs. The mouse says you have low level you so plug it in, and somehow three days later it's still not fully charged. You unplug it, because what the fuck, and it immediately drops to 49%, and rapidly drops after that The only workaround is enabling and sometimes disabling integrated storage mode. It's very disappointing that a logitech product is like this, but it is
Do they use the superlight wireless or wired
I wish razer could get their shit together and release a viper ultimate v2
2:21 not the heaviest, fer's rival 300 is an absolute chonker the thing weighs like 130g and is bigger than pretty much anything on the market currently.
Bruh I'm rocking the G303 Shroud edition and haven't gone back prior to this I've switched mouse every 2 months or so
description says "but it here" just so u know
you are underrated
Where's the Deathadder v2 Mini gang?
actually sold my superlight. Definitely not the mouse for my big hands. Not even talking about how many problems the mouse actually got, lol. Got back to Zowie again and I guess I will not switch to anything else, maybe Vaxee at some point.
i got the superlight and the normale one and the xtrfy m4 and the benq zowie za12 and i got the za12 for 14 uss dollars
"And that doesn't mean it's the best for you, because preferences for shape and size (and weight to an extent) are mostly very subjective issues."
I use the mouse deathadder V2 Pro. :)
how do you only have 1.28k subs
Super light supremacy
Me over here with my original razer deathadder
did any of the pros have their mice modded? switches, weight reduction, grip tape and what skates are they using?
Afaik none of them have mods. there’s a lot of travelling for them so it’s risky to depend on a one of a kind mouse. I’d say maybe some of them would have at least ptfe feet if they weren’t available as stock.
@@DiamondLobbyReviews interesting because some valorant players seem to actually use some mods. it almost feels like the csgo players are very conservative, when it comes to mice.
@@michaelschwarz5907 Not just almost feels like it, they are. When you have monetary and social status gains on the line, you can develop a conservative, "already proven" mindset, and stick to it.
been using regular g pro since it came out ive bought 3 since then i tried superlight but that sht too light or maybe i just got so used to regular g pro.
There's no such thing as too light, just preference and getting used to something.
i hit global elite with G102 LIGHTSYNC lol
coz almost all of them gets sponousered so it is really not accurate to use that chart to value what's the best mouse. it is surely one of the most popular mouses, but it is definitely not the best one there. but it sets a rather high benchmark for the following mouses which makes it more meanful. sadly, there are not many ergo mouses out there, its always symm mice gets the love.
I wonder why almost every of these mice has only 2 extra macro buttons. I find it very useful to be able to switch to another weapon (primary, pistol or knife) without having to let go off one of the walk buttons. Why is this so rare?
usually switching to another weapon on your mouse distracts you from aiming well, I can speak from my own expirience saying that I aim better if I only use my right hand to click on heads.
I was sure of it! Right now I'm waiting for the X2.
Guys, dont be irritated by that, i have superlight, because back than my g703 had the double click issue and i though why not upgrade. But i honestly have to say i like the g703 shape more. I also have like big hands. The worst thing is also that i cant go back because i am used to the low Weight. Yeah so i Hope logitech will make a new g703. Deathadder v3 pro maybe a option but a bit to expensive. What i want to say with that the g pro might be a good choice for a lot of people but not for everyone especially if you have big hands. I also tried the model d but didnt like it. Do you guys have good ergo mouce recommendations?
Pulsar Xlite v2
@@Crusher91 the funny thing is i ordered it yesterday already Lmao
I've also been waiting for a 703 superlight,but in terms of price, no doubt it will also be $150 like the DAV3. Regular superlight also launched at $150. That's just the new launch price of flagship mice from logi,Razer these days.
i would rather save up for another week or so to get the DAv3 instead of settling for the gpx tbh
HOLYY SHIITTT I LOVE YOU I'VE BEEN SEARCHING AROUND THE INTERNET FOR 5 HOURS AND THEN NOW IT'S OVER FINALLY I LOVE YOU MAAN
Do not disrespect the Deathadder Elite bro that thing was the GOAT back then
How they play with zowie I have no idea I got one they are horrible mice
Vaxee mouses are underated
I used the V2 PRO for a month and couldn't get used to how flat it was. I like the hump on the gpw so I bought the gpx and used it for a week and felt really good with how much control I have compared to the V2 pro. (These are my opinions plz don't try to argue. Comments about your experiences are welcomed.)
100% use whatever mouse feels best for you, at the level of technology they're at now personal preference is more important than 3ms of latency difference
@@chickenjoe427 my glorious model d just doesnt work keeps cutting out sometimes for a short period and sometimes i have to plug it out and back in for it to work again so i guess thats a technological difference
There is a lot of fun in this video. 👍
3:57 where can I buy it?
I Don't care which mouse pro players use right now my Favourite mouse lamzu Atlantis a God mouse for me and Razer DEv3 is the God Ergo mouse
Iron Logic his conclusion is pretty safe
I went to Logitech but went back to the zowie. I like the sensor better.
Whats the difference between their sensor?
@@mombo920 with the Logitech if I slightly picked it up off the pad it’d stop tracking but with the zowie if I’m slighting above the pad, it still tracks. That’s what I noticed.
I’m using the deatadder v3 pro sooo good
had both rival 300 and g403. rival is an absolute ass because it's sensor is way too obsolete and cannot cope with my pretty default 800 dpi 0.9 sensitivity (like a damn office mouse). g403 got BOTH clicks double-clicking after 5 month of proper use. now I'm using zowie ec2 and i think im never buying anything but zowie in a lifetime
Logitech G PRO X Superlight - The mouse in the vid you're looking for. You're welcome
note : never buy glorius d- wireless
Good Video, but everyone has a different hands and feel different. I have tried out the most famous mice on the market. For my hand lightweight mice are terrible and comfort comes at first. This is why the Razer DeathAdder Elite fits the best in my hand and its weight is perfect for me. After one or two hour of gaming sessions, I feel no cramping or whatsoever in my hand, very relaxed...
I'm happy with my el cheapo Redragon mouse😂
can we pweez have to doc with the list of mice
i dont want people to see my poor use of excel! what if i did something wrong? I'd be exposed!
@@DiamondLobbyReviews havnt used it since secondary school wouldnt worry about it
people chasing the lightest mouse while want a heavier one
@imFeelinCrazyRN simple answer no. if your stick arms cant move shit its not my fault.
As someone who owns a superlight. I gotta say it's a good mouse and the investment speaks for itself. I'm never really going to have to upgrade ever.
that's what I said, but I bumped it off by desk twice and the battery became so loose it was unusable! To be fair it was hardwood, but what kind of build quality is that???
@@phwn you can just open it up and stick it back to the top of the mouse, takes 5 mins and you can replace the bottoms if you ruin them when you peel it off, but i agree not the best
I reached GE using a razer naga... Just use whatever feels good.
Yeah copying the pros gears wont make you one
Logitech g102 lightsync Best mouse 🔥
You need to remember that these pros earn 10k € a month and have stacks of mice in reserve. That being said, the sensor on my 1 y o Logitech mouse died and im never buying logitech or razer again. Zowie is still the best of affordable ones.
How badly do they have to mess up to make a sensor die in a year? My deathadder from 2016 still has a fully working sensor
@@MarksterC Exactly my thoughts, Its that HERO sensor they praise, and im sure its sensor and not cable... My intelli 1.1A still working as well, MX510 too, its just new stuff that is made of cheap parts
your razer broke and then your logitech broke and then your bloody broke and then your vaxee broke and then your zowie broke and then your hyperx broke and then your glorious broke anyways youre never buying razer again and youre never buying logitech again and youre never buying bloody again and youre never buying vaxee again and youre never buying zowie again and youre never buying hyperx again and youre never buying glorious again
pretty sure is cable issue... my razers all had cable issue... my G305 modded af (cut of PCB board, housing, switch) has no sensor issue after 2 years
@@victorng2996 Its a faulty sensor, because when i lift the mouse, it usually stops working until i lift it up and put it down again. It never stops working if i dont lift the mouse. Its very weird. Anyway, ive got EC-1C now and i also think old Zowie are better than new ones 🥲
Mice are fun, but how about keyboards?
Surely a wireless mouse has a slower response time?
They used to like 10 years ago, nowadays theres no latency difference between wired and wireless
need small size..
so no g703 users?
bymas is using a G403 which is practically the same, i'll take that as a sign logitech should make a superlight g703
@@DiamondLobbyReviews as a g703 user myself i really hope they do but i might just settle for deathadder v3 pro
This but mousepads would be awesome!
As long as you buy one from a good brand and not some 10 dollar no name brand from amazon you are good
I'll buy the one which 53% of csgo pros use
Nice adsense mate
hm who are the pros that use the cheapest mouse?
I have had always wired Logitech mice, why is every pro player using wireless mice and headset? Is it really better than wired options? I am thinking about getting the Superlight version of the Logitech g pro, because my Logitech G legendary is pretty heavy.
I use G600 in fps games.. maybe thats why i cant aim shit?
yes
I have superlight it's 😍 mouse
Most of the pro players are eating bread. So you should consider also eating bread to become a better player ;) Seriously: it doesn't matter which mouse a good player is using unless he feels comfortable with it, even on a very high level. But gaming also means marketing, and you can be sure: the prices of a Viper V2 oder Logitech Superlight are just a joke, but the people pay these prices.
cant handle the fun