The Tragic DOWNFALL Of Darren Till
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After suffering another loss at UFC 282, Darren Till is now 1-5 in his last 6. What Happened ?
Come along as we take a look at the downfall of Darren Till.
The fact that he’s not had a proper fixed head coach in his last two fights will have played a huge part in this. It’s all very well training in Thailand and Sweden, but without a solid overhead checking you and your game, this is what happens
I didn't know this
@@dopemusic6414 the guy cornering him in the recent fight was a mma fighter outside of the ufc who had no coaching experience, Darren fell out with his og head coach
@@eddiemango how do you know he fell out with his head coach
@@eddiemango don’t know if his head coach was ever that good though. He made him into a pretty one dimensional fighter. Tom aspinall seems to be doing ok at the same gym though but not sure if he has the same coach
@@omerta_ita was in interview over with another fighter (the one that cornered Till recent fight because head coach not there) he mentioned that till needs structure in his training and life that a head coach used to provide. And till has mentioned before that he thinks he was turned into a one dimensional fighter by coach and camp so he keeps going elsewhere to train
The clip of him saying he doesn't care about the kid he doesn't see/raise rubbed me the wrong way. No one likes a deadbeat.
karma baby
Same. I was shocked at that. Did he get any blowback for those comments bc this is the first time I've heard him say that stuff. Honestly deplorable.
thats why he fails....bad leadership....he doesnt see things right. even if you are a careless person, most people would have the good sense to not blurt it out loud. I agree it was a very telling and disturbing clip
100% dont feel a scintilla of sadness for a man that shirks his responsibilities.
He is a deadbeat
“You don’t always get what you want in this life”. Real talk.
What u want isn't what u want anyways.
@@vilhelmkron7455 now that hit different. it’s just a matter of who wants it more tbh.
There's an attitude these days of entitlement. Many fighters delude themselves into believing that they will be champion no matter what, that they deserve it and that they can will it into existence because it is their destiny, and they speak publicly about that from the beginning, but the reality is that very few people ever actually achieve it. The vast majority of all competitors will never get the belt. They'll just have a career in the sport, make some money, have some wins and losses like Till and that's that. Then they'll retire and fade away. Some will be remembered as legends even without being champs but most just fade into the past. The cycle repeats again and again as long as the sport is around. They have a short window of time and then it's on to the next batch of men who then have their window of time and on and on.
@@vilhelmkron7455 isn't what you want *always, not "anyways"
Right like how his kids wanted a dad.
One of the most infuriating things about till is that he comes from a Thai boxing background but doesn't kick nearly as much as he should. He needs to add kicks to his game. And I do think agree, if possible go back to 170.
Dude can barely lift his leg high enough to throw a body kick and call himself a kickboxer
Scared of the takedown.
He was going blind and having seizures the last time he made 170. That was over 3 years ago. There is no way he could make in now at nearly 30 years old
@Mr Chen i remember him talking about it a couple years ago. I feel if he got a personal dietician and made the cut to 170 slowly, i feel he could make it
@Jesse Lee LOL. They do not even have close to similar frames. Magny is built like a toothpick. Till has a much larger frame. Look at their bodies side by side. Completely different.
I miss him at his peak and the charisma he had that walkout to sweet Caroline still gives me goosebumps.
Of all the downfalls in this sport, tills was the most enjoyable to watch.
His peak was beating cowboy cerrone who weighted about 50lbs less than him
maybe he needs time in forest like Jorge did.
Duh, Duh, DUHHH
he's old... lost the natural testo production, happens to all men. No anger in him. He ain't got that dog inn him anymore, he's here to collect easy money.
too much expectation and pressure. he is probably also his own worst enemy and has admitted he over trains. gotta let your body rest and recover
'Over trains', what garbage, it's pretty obvious the guy doesn't train anything. Made zero improvement since he entered the UFC. He fights once a year, and looks like shit every time he does. Stop making excuses for him.
Still no grappling skills
i think that's premium copium .. he looks like shit cause he under trains
Still bad cardio ok Fanboy
Low fight IQ. You either have it or you don’t it’s something you can’t train
He needs to go back to being a weight bully at 170. But first he needs to go spend time with his family and especially his daughters. Understand what he's fighting for
Exactly, if he implemented wrestling as well as striking his daughters, he'd make big improvements
He got finished twice, and koed the only time in his carrer in his last two fights at 170, i dont think that would help him that much, trying to go down again doesn't always go well, just look at dan hooker when he went to 145
He should go back to 170 but is obvious that he doesn’t have the mentality to cut that much weight. Now he always looks out shape and overweight.
@@noban2730 striking his daughters?
@@noban2730 wtf bro
He’s still young, he should take some time off and simply focus on becoming a well rounded fighter, comeback and get some unranked wins and go from there * Ok I thought he was 27 not 29
He lacks that killer instinct lately and his TD defense is garbage. Doesn't matter how hard he trains, he can't put it together once the cage door closes
@@ifgwelf I really wonder what happened with khamzat, vettori, tiger Muay Thai training, did anything happen?
And he seems to think the more you train the better prepared you'll be. There's a chance he would do better if he trained less and focused on feeling better. Some guys are animals who never stop and it works for them like Khamzat, but some people do well with less physical atrophy everyday
That’s why he went to Sweden tho bro if it didn’t work all that training with top level guys why would it work if he took another 6 months off
29 isn’t young it isn’t old but it was do or die vs Dricus for Till and he didn’t even fight like it!
Darren the muay thai fighter that never throws a kick 😂
When the obese hobbyist 60 year old dad in my gym throws more kicks than Till
😅
As the great Chael Sonnen says "You don't know, what you don't know". Till, and his brain changed forever after that loss to Masvidal. You dont get to clap the brain around like that and be the same guy. That fear he was talking about even though he won his next fight, was his body realizing it could happen again, and trying to get him not to walk out there. Honestly, Fucking Props to Till for still crackin on
too fuckin right man
He's nothing special
He didn't have takedown defense either before the masvidal kncokout
He just got crushed by better fighters. There's no physcology to it.
@@samuelmendez972 so how has his physiology changed? He's not getting knocked out
Seriously makes me so sad to see how far he’s fallen. You could literally see his confidence draining each fight,hell even each walkout got less and less hype. 2018 Till “ THEYRE ALL GETTIN IT” seems like nothing but a distant memory 🥺
Most people really love fighting when they are beating the shit out of someone, when the fights are grueling, tough, vicious, damaging, then they don't look forward to fighting as much. Till has done nothing noticeable to fix his weaknesses. This is also common, a lot of people will avoid training the things they suck at. That's where the champion mindset comes in.
Yeah 100% mate
Really? Are you sure people don't love fighting when they're getting the absolute dogshit beat out of them? Surely that's not true...
@Matt. Most pro fighters bite down and throw back when they’re getting beat. Till quits.
I always thought Till was overrated.
Many people throw the "he's young" thing like the young guys always come back better. Look at Cody Garbrandt, he was undefeated and dominated the bantam weight GOAT in Dominick Cruz and then went 1 - 5 after. Point is, Darren is young, but without someone that can push him to become better and check where he's at. A head coach.
I’m happy that in Darren‘s most recent interviews he’s much more of a family man versus how he used to prioritize legacy first. Legacy doesn’t mean anything especially in the UFC where after you retire people stop talking about you and within 10 years it’s like you hardly existed. I am rooting for Darren. I think he should see a sports psychologist tho. I look forward to seeing him fight in the future and hopefully overcoming whatever is holding him back.
Legacy does mean something, if you made a significant enough mark on the sport. Conor, Ronda and Khabib will continue to be talked about for years, if not decades. As will the GOATs like GSP, Jones and Silva.
@@madgavin7568 Yes but they are mentioned in passing, used in compilations of "best of" moments or they are listed amongst the GOATs...that's it. Give it more time for Conor and Ronda, history will remember them differently and perhaps Kabib too. Everyone has a tainted legacy one way or another. GSP reappeared in the mma media the last couple of years because his movie career flopped and he wanted the attention again, it came across a little desperate imo. Legacy means little and it certainly isn't enough to neglect family relationships.
I agree, your perspective reminds me a bit of one of my favourite quotes: "Fame is a vapour. Popularity, an accident. The only earthly certainty is oblivion.". From Mark Twain. I mean, the term legacy itself means long lasting but, in his case, he's risking a lot for just a small chance of achieving it.
@@Marfmellow88 Family is the real lasting legacy. Without health and family you have nothing.
@@Marfmellow88 Khabib has his legacy in the sport but he'd probably trade it to have his father back, if he could.
Woodley punched and choked the prime out of him unfortunately.
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He was pushed into the hype train too soon.
Many such cases...
Like so many others
Jorge masvidal, Cody garbrandt, Tj dillashaw…anyone I missing?
@@bonniebunny9740 we can add paddy on there. Always knew paddy wasn’t all the hype.
@@jellyrollderp3193 ok then, paddy the baddy…anyone else?
Sad cause I feel like the same thing is going to happen to paddy. There’s no shot paddy beats anyone in the top 5 in LW, that first big L is going to hurt
I wanna see Ilia shut Paddy’s lights out 😂
@@tamaaa7745 yeah, I just don’t see paddy faring well against a real striker, if ilia tighten ups his defense, dude has a legit shot in feather
@@FlaccidLass can’t wait to see Ilia move up in the rankings so many good fights for him. Fair man his ground game is quite deadly
Why is that sad?
@@tamaaa7745 Different weight class.
this honestly breaks my heart
Then you're too emotionally invested in another man's life.
@@folksurvival bruh what
This is the best video you’ve ever put out. Love this style.
The reality is Till was never truly elite, Cerrone was his only true "elite" win and that was essentially a washed 155er, WB was a questionable decision win in his hometown, Gastelum was a split and he's arguably been the beneficiary of fighting old men his entire career to make his name, they pushed Till too soon and destroyed his confidence to the point where we have the version of Till we see today, the best chance of reigniting his career would be a prolonged step down in competition to restore his confidence
@Jesse Lee not at all...
Lol Cerrone is a certified bum and punching bag and should never be considered an elite fighter.
@@abhijitbhattacharjee7138 I don't think till is done but I think he wasn't as motivated compared back then it's like he wasn't interested anymore I remember back then that he was good match up against Izzy and costa
@@Leon-yw3zz possibly needs a sports psychologist, and his lack of wrestling defence and groundwork is concerning.
Cerrone was his only true elite win ? Soooooo.... we going to act retarded and forget that he beat Wonderboy?
Your videos are so well put together. Keep up the good work.
Fighting is not a sport you want to do if your heart's not in it anymore it really takes a special mindset and I think it might be one of the most punishing when you start doubting yourself
I like how they incljddd Tyron Woodleys mom hugging him. She is so warm and genuine always personally showing love to every fighter Tyron fought wether he won or lost. The one I remember the most was when Usman beat Woodley and she was hugging him telling him it was his time he earned it and they were both crying.. that moment really hit home with me.. Tyron’s mother is a damn good women and Tyron is lucky to have her in his life..
She also mercilessly laughed at Woodley's carcass along with Jake and co. When Jake raped him
@@poatan6304 please take your weird negativity and toxicity elsewhere.
@@Killacam1992 why, for mentioning the truth?
As he said himself, he's fighting really well in sparring, IMO he needs to start mixing things up in the octagon and not repeat the same moves over and over (left hand and elbow as they come in for the takedown), and try to separate himself from the pressure.
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As we all know Till was rushed into the Wonderboy and Woodley fights. After beating Cerrone he should have had 3-4 fights before fighting for the title. But now he's just not learning anything new. Why is his wrestling not improving? It seems strikers like him and Holland are too stubborn to change now that they're already in the UFC. Also from looking at Till's training videos, he definitely has his best fights in the gym. He goes to war and trains way too hard, when he needs to be training smart.
Till thought he had a champion mentality. He didn’t. He never did. A champion doesn’t lose a fight and lose the drive. He was just a guy who was pretty alright at fighting.
the jorge loss is what ruined him he was very confident in that fight still believed he was the man but then he was kod and has been terrified of it happening again ever since
Life's not about getting what you want it's about being a good person
Nah, it’s both.
damn man thats some slick editing love the video
Good content! If you’re running your mic through an EQ trim up those highs and lows a little bit that way you don’t get those frequency squeals. Maybe even a pre-set suppressor could help too. Cheers.
Damn man this was hard to watch, but you said what needed to be heard. Always going to root for you Darren!
This hit me in the feels too
It's all downhill from here.
@@voidstar1512 hood thing my breaks don’t work
@@MoldRoss sayonara nigga
@@voidstar1512 I ate sand today
There's an attitude these days of entitlement. Many fighters delude themselves into believing that they will be champion no matter what, that they deserve it and that they can will it into existence because it is their destiny, and they speak publicly about that from the beginning, but the reality is that very few people ever actually achieve it. The vast majority of all competitors will never get the belt. They'll just have a career in the sport, make some money, have some wins and losses like Till and that's that. Then they'll retire and fade away. Some will be remembered as legends even without being champs but most just fade into the past. The cycle repeats again and again as long as the sport is around. They have a short window of time and then it's on to the next batch of men who then have their window of time and on and on.
Brutal but well said and true
Damn man I love your video edits, from the narration to the music to the edits and even the bit of humor it was perfect! Art at its finest!
Such a great video man!
He's only 29, he could easily make a big comeback with a bit of luck. He just needs to figure out how to not lose his fighting spirit when he's in tough situations during a fight. I feel like that was the difference in about four of his losses.
He has to move back to 170. He doesn’t have the skill set or the ground game to compete at middleweight
@@mybestofriendo4615 lol if he can't wrestle or doesn't possessed the ground game then I don't see him surviving the most wrestling dominant division and the bad things those wrestler can strike better than him too and they're big as well
@@Leon-yw3zz nah he’s naturally bigger than most of the guys At welterweight so he would have a bit more success with defending takedowns
That's old for MMA
@@kingjoseph5901 No it's not. He's just entering his physical prime.
Til's only 2 wins in the last 5 years and 7 fights, were against Wonderboy Thompson and Kelvin Gastelum and I honestly thought he lost those 2 as well. They were really close fights. At 30 years old(24 dec) and not a decisive win since he was 25, I don't know if there's a way back from here. Hopefully he can one day do a Bisping and bring us Bits a world title.
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perfect video once again . thx
Amazing video as always king
Just got released today from the UFC roster.
I believe that as he rose up the ranks he was exposed by the much more versatile competition. I love his striking but thats all he brings, too many competitors have the grappling, etc
downfalls happen alot in sports, but in combat ones it really depressing seeing a person lose over and over
Nice Thumbnail 💎
😅 seems like a good guy and father... 'I have a pregnant wife and daughter in Brazil, and I don't really care." 😕 looks like he's got what he deserves. The energy you put in is the energy you get back.
uh oh!!! someone has some daddy issues!
@youngmoney4313 yeah... Darren Till being one 😆
@@SunTzuMedia naaaah he's creating daddy issues 🤣🤣
@@youngmoney4313 lol
What happened to Darren ? T-Wood happened. Then along came Masvidal and took this mans soul. Ever since that brutal KO, he’s never been the same.
Nicely done. Respectful but true to the facts. Well worth watching.
Anyone who says he needs time off has clearly never had to worry about bills or what it's like to have children.
Too small for 185. He needs to come back to 170. 170 return will be his last chance
Too small for 185 but too big for 170 kinda like colby Not fighting at lightweight
MMA is one of the most competitive sports. These guys on the Rosters are elite as it gets. Everyone has their reign and fall.
I wish I could say the same for boxing
Brilliant channel
Honestly I wonder if getting dominated one sided by T-Wood while seeing someone who he was fairly even with, in Wonderboy (yes, he won, but it's very controversial), fight him twice and draw once, flicked a switch in him, a cap where he subconsciously feels like he can never reach the top.
he's just not on that level of a top tier fighter. The main reason he won the fight against Wonderboy was bc he missed weight so the fight was at a catch weight which this guy conveniently left out.
You may hate me for saying it but when that 2nd round hit and he got it back to the feet for majority of the round. I was cheering a good bit and really hoping for Darren till to win against du plesis. It is crazy how he is good training partnered with khamzat and does not have better takedown defense and wrestling in general. Good on Dracus du plesis on a good win and on climbing the MW contender list but man do i wish Till made a comeback.
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Good video, think should have added the Whittaker, Brunson and Dricus fights.
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I hope he makes a come back.
he quit
its so ironic that tills training with one of the most dangerous guy's in khamzat and still he ain't learn't anything different since the derek brunson mauling
Great work danny segura
Till problem is the sport moves FAST, evolves FAST and unfortunately for till he's one dimension
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'Yo ma man, Darren Till ... you're taking way too much damage in there mate !" - An actual Punching Bag
Excellent work. well paced. just wish you mentioned him simping for khamzat and his recent fight
I was looking for a video like tis after watching his last fight. He had 0 ground game and did not develop his mma skills at all. He still looks like a kickboxer in the UFC after this many years!!!
Who’s here after Darren got cut ? 👀
4:43 really made me chuckle 😅 Also the things he said about his family especially his daughters is kind of sad. I don't understand why he had to push his family aside to create a legacy. He did push his family aside and he's lost, what, 4 fights in a row now. If you don't wanna be a dad just say that.
He said he regrets saying all that
If you could rewind to the Woodley fight, after losing he should have took at least two years off from competition, found a REALLY good head coach, and trained grappling like his life literally depended on it
Where can I find that instrumental towards the end ????????
till doesnt seem to have the anatomy / other physiological attributes to do this at the highest level. he claims to work harder than anyone or whatever, but when he was training w khamzat we were shown that there are levels to this and till doesnt seem to posses them. imagine he lost to cowboy, thats his only highlight i can recall and it seems like he wants to relive that moment or one like it everytime he enters the octagon, essentially hoping for a hail mary in every fight. mcgregor got off on the secret, which is honestly just coincidence, till still thinks hes going to speak his greatness into reality. theres a saying in AA/NA, "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is insanity", and with till essentially doing just that, at least when he enters the cage, its apparent that though he may not be insane, he is definitely delusional. im not sure if anyone has really sat down and spoken to him about where hes at, i could see it being difficult to say something like this to him because hes so charismatic.maybe he hasnt reached a brendan shaub / joe rogan moment, but its not too far off having just fallen out of the rankings. sorry for the novel, what do i know.
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If there is a fighter that can bounce back to the top from such a situation… it’s him
Doubtful
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Wow thanks a lot for that man, truly appreciated!
@@TheFightingBusiness not at all, brother we appreciate what are doing for us
what is the background music at 0:57 ?
Nothing tragic about it. Dude got exactly what he put in.
Till was absolutely schooling Masvidal until the stoppage. I have never seen someone dealing with Jorge with such ease but when the knockout happened the Till we knew was gone forever.
no he wasnt he was getting caught over and over until the knock out... rewatch it
The opening comment, he was at the top of the spot for years?? When was that ?
Define greatness kid
Till is Pimblett future!
I don’t think pimblett ever ranks as high as till has to this point in his ufc career.
@@__M738 truu
He's a guy that would benefit from doing the 165, 175, 185,195 changes to the weight class. He reminds me of a football player who is to small to play on the defensive line but to big to play linebackers. I like Darren and hope he finds that one coach that balances his game
*too
Nah man, people get knocked down..... its all about that get back up. Good luck to the young man in the future. Im pulling for him to get his dreams still
It's crazy how fighters can literally fall apart after a particular loss...
He is 29….best years are ahead of him, with or without UFC. Plus there is very few fighters I can confidently say are not juicing, he is one of them. Best of luck to Darren Till.
Don't they get tests in the ufc? I don't know much about it I'm a boxing man.
@@theculturedthug6609 it’s complicated man…camps have scientists on payroll, great money involved.
@@addy_oz1691 corruption and cowardice rules the day
Till really needed Khamzat and the All-Stars team in his corner in that last fight. The energy they possess brings out the best in fighters. But I guess he didn't train at All-Star for this one, and Khamzat was too busy entertaining a warlord's sons to show up in the corner of the "brother" who cornered him in his last two fights. So Till went in with his same, old crew and came out with the same, old result.
"warlord" lmfao, who told you that, CNN?
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When he stepped foot in Glendale Fight Club that was a wrap
" gf who's 7 months pregnant.. I don't really care.. Got a daughter in Brazil I haven't seen in a year.. I don't really care." that's extremely selfish and fucked up and honestly not giving a shit about those that matter most to u and who ur supposed to be fighting for is twisted.. As much as I like watching Darren fight and his general personality Those grotesque statements may have been karmically stamped.. What's happened to him may have been the universe saying " if u ain't gonna fight for ur family and to better their lives.. If ur in this for purely individualistic / selfish reasons.. Then why tf should u be great in this sport? Why tf should u succeed to begin with?"
Ya I clocked that too and was like tf.theyre gonna be able to see he said that too
He knew that thinking a ton about those kids would make me not as aggressive and hungry to succeed. He wanted it that bad,to have a legacy…if he had a legacy he’d be able to do whatever for those children.
@@allen62 that's not an excuse Charles olivera wanted it just as bad but the man still gave a shit about his daughter and makes an effort to spend as much time with her as his schedule allows the same can be said for fighters like DJ, Brandon Moreno, Juliana Pena, McGregor, Garbrandt, Dillashaw, Poierer, Nunez, Petyr Yan and the list quite literally goes on forever.. Apparently Darren has 5 freakin kids and he seldom sees them and appears to do everything possible to be away from home /not spend time with em.
@@chantlmcclary6419 hey everybody different I’m just saying that’s probably how he saw it in his head Olive is a beast
It’s not tragic, it’s been beautiful and I loved it all. If he somehow gets re-signed by the UFC he should be a prelim fighter…… never maincard.
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Mental health combined with a forever degrading society around us is what Darren struggles with
yes I think many of us dont actually realize how much our decaying, imploding world really does affect our psychological well being and sense of the future security
song name?
Hope he can make a comeback
it does seem this video hits the nail on the head,pushed to soon,loss of confidence
Thing that I’ve noticed in the fighting business, some people think they’re all that and they love dishing out punishment until they get hit real good, once that one time happens it sticks with them forever and not everyone has the true “warrior” mindset to take that hit and keep on moving, you need to truly live for that shit to lose and not give a shit about it.
Terrible to see how far he's dropped. Hopefully he can get his confidence back and make a return.
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some of fighters actually have to fight and work hard unlike some others to get at the top
He’s such a good lad. I really hope he makes it back to the UFC, and has a real go of it.
I truly believe till will be a champion one day he just has a huge mental hurtle to get over the du plessis fight was a very winnable fight for him but he didn’t preform
I knew Darren has a downward trajectory but his last fight was hard to watch, I mean that was brutal at one point in the 1st they showed the strikes 0-60 i mean that might as well be a tech fall
God bless
Really hope there is a rebound for Till i really enjoy this man when he's riding the high
In sports team, when a team like real Madrid have 4-5 losses, we say the team is falling off, but deep in our mind we know that it is just a phase the will pass with the right adjustment, being with a team help carry the burden, but for solo fighters, it can be devastating from only1 loss, ask charles oliveira
1 2 combos are not enough at that level of the game.