Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse is NOT an Incomplete Film
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Peak Marvel is back and it's got nothing to do with the MCU. Miles Morales swings back onto the big screen with the exaggerated swagger of a black teen and yes the movie is that good. It's also complete... y'know, lets talk about that.
Am I gonna force 18 more seconds into the video just to add mid roll ads? Nah... I'mma do my own thing.
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The emotional climax for me was when miles tells his mom "I met all these amazing people and I beat them all"
Miguel O Hara was tweaking when he tried to stop Miles, like my man was straight up fumbling and crawling on all fours, while trying to shatter a teleporter just to get Miles 😂, my God the movie did a perfect job in making Miguel as unhinged as possible
I mean I'd be unhinged too if I saw a universe, my family and my daughter get destroyed and erased cuz of my mistake and the person I'm trying to hold still is potentially gonna stop a canon event which will then destroy the entire Spider-verse and kill trillions of living beings to save 1 person, his dad... Think about it...
Doesn’t help that he was high the whole time too. They had my man pumping temp v into himself as he explained his backstory. But I will give him credit, according to his logic he should’ve killed miles and miles 42 as soon as possible but wouldn’t
Right even Miles looked concerned rather than scared at the end when he was about to teleport to earth 42
@@Dookieman1975 lol where did temp v come from
Miguel realy thought he was kratos lmao XD
It's a complete film but an incomplete story
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@@hfc3696 To be damn fair I wanted to watch Spider Man not Spider Gwen...
Yeah, like Infinity War.
@@M_k-zi3tni felt more closure with infinity war than this tbh but thats probably because they straight up ended everything instead of teasing the next movie at the end. i still love this movie tho, but the story being incomplete makes the film itself feel incomplete at times. but thats just my perspective on things. i can’t wait for the sequel.
The thing about Miguel is that he isn't being utilitarian. He thinks he is. He's convinced countless Spider-People he is. But he isn't. He spent all this time building up Spider-Society as a way of coping with his guilt and regret, and that's what this is really about. This is him running away. It's him just giving up on trying to find another way - in a sense, betraying the single most "canon" thing about Spider-Man: Spidey always tries to Do Both. Even if they're wrong, it isn't because they just didn't try. Ever. But he does stop trying. In the first place, what he did by trying to find another life was try to run away from responsibility, too - the same damn thing he pushes onto every other Spider to rationalize his actions. Hell. He didn't even try to figure out the fact that the police captain could just quit. That Peter B Parker could get back with MJ and have a kid thanks to "the anomaly" and not have their world melt. That Miles' world is very much not disintegrating before the Spot does his thing. That Gwen is a very different Spider in many ways. The real utilitarian perspective would be that it's pretty damn important to figure out whether the canon theory is actually true and identify all the possible workarounds, because it would be a hell of a lot more good done if Spiders weren't forced to not save people.
I honestly Miguel is so traumatized that my man will do anything to prevent the other universes from suffering the same fate
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Including jumping the gun and acting out of paranoia instead of actually investigating: 1) correlation and causation, what events if any are actually necessary 2) viable alternatives like getting the captain to retire And so on.
Damn I think you hit the nail on the head. Miguel is honestly a really good character, and I think being so angry at Miles is because he sees himself in him, and he's afraid of Miles making the same mistake...or he doesn't want to confront the idea that he was wrong and his family's death wasn't inevitable
@@NoMustang273 Yup. Notice that the quantum hole in Mumbattan is very conspicuously pitch black like the Spot, not the flashing glitches of the world that disappeared for Miguel. So Miles is right. The Spot did that by tearing the spacetime continuum apart with the collider and becoming an eldritch abomination. Earth-42 didn't go poof despite not having a Spider-Man at all when it was supposed to, either. And if No Way Home is the same shared multiverse, Tom Holland Spider-Man literally just changed the timelines of multiple villains (and Spider-Men) for the better, and all Miguel had was an offhanded mention of the fact that it happened. Not exactly a sign of the Spider-Verse getting vaporized. It's all pointing to the idea that the canon isn't set in stone, and more importantly, that tragedy doesn't have to define Spider-Man. There are a lot of deeper elements to it as well - like the fact that, as in real life, sometimes authoritarianism and an obsessive desire for control can be motivated by fear and unresolved trauma, similar to Kingpin in the first movie. Miles is actually, in a way, advocating for doing more good where it's shown to be possible, which is desirable from a utilitarian standpoint. Appropriately for the movie that spent two years just to ensure Spider-Punk didn't follow any of the rules of the current animation sequence for more than two seconds, this is probably the most ideologically progressive superhero movie ever made.
@@FelisImpurrator I think you kinda miss the point of the spider society. They ensure canon events happen. they're like a TVA of sorts. only jumping in to correct the path, no matter who dies or lives. everything you've said still stands, until it comes to changing the events.
I mean the whole movie to me seemed like an invitation from Gwen to help her save Miles, especially with her closing line “You in?” In my view, this movie was told in Gwen’s POV (excluding the scenes with Miles alone with his daily life), she recapped all the events that occured in her eyes and more importantly she follows up with how she hurt Miles. This answers her statement in the start when she said “I didnt wanna hurt him, but I did.” So yeah, the movie starts with Gwen saying that she hurt Miles, shows us how and why she did it, and in the end, it circles back to Gwen inviting us to join her in saving him. Thats a pretty complete story ngl
Actually if you look deeper into it I think gwens opening speach is her recruitment speach that she gave to everyone who joined her team in the end, I realized that when she said "I didn't wanna hurt him, but I did" shits deep bro
totally agree, i started as Gwen's story and end that way, ppl who says it's incomplete wasn't paying attention. yet, the overarching story continues, heck even this movie is a continuation from the first one, that also had a cliff hanger, it was just more open ended since we don't know if this was gonna get a sequel/trilogy.
@@Towkeeyoh leaving it open ended and straight up not closing up storylines are two different things. If a final scene shows a man blasting off into space in a rocket ship, you have anyway the story can go, you assume he travels the cosmos, etc., etc., but if it showed him landing, approaching this temple, the going what the... then the movie ended. No sequel, no tv show follow up. Just that. you would feel a part of the movie is missing. That why they are so different. Now we knew that this would be a two parter, but we knew that for infinity war/endgame. Infinity War still had a conclusion. there was a battle for something, someone got it, story over. The second movie the fix it, but the setup happened in the second movie, not infinity war.
Gwen really was the driving force of this movie. Without her choices, Miles wouldn't have made his.
@@kjdee140 I wouldn’t say driving force… he would’ve been involved eventually. You clearly want to know how… Miles wanted to go to Princeton, they were already sending particles to other universes. Miles wants to be able to travel to other universes. He would’ve eventually went to Gwen’s or another Spider-Person and figured out what’s going on. This is still Mile’s story. That kinda the whole point of these movies. Even if you say she’s the reason he wants to see other universes, that would be a lie, he has a mentor that he wants to see again and a whole group of people LIKE HIM that he’d want to visit. Gwen has her own story in this movie, but look at what these movies have in them. In the first movie, he had to realize he can’t live other people’s stories. Then, in the second movie, he had to make everyone else realize this is his story. They are trying to tell him how to make his story. I love Gwen as a character, but this isn’t her story and I feel like sayin that undermines the writers intent with this story.
The teen drama in the first act was actually my favorite part of the film. Seeing intimate parts of Miles and Gwen's lives showcases a lot of their character which I find that some comic book adaptations are lacking a bit nowadays.
Fr this teen drama is good as well as necessary for them bc they are obviously endgame and the writers should do as much as they can to not let this be another underdeveloped relationship
@@multiversemokona Am I the only one who doesn't ship them together? It's probably me being gay, but I see them more as friends than anything. 💀
@@lupaloops4166or me, I would like them to get together but it can’t work out. It’s the longest distance relationship ever. And if they do it, one will have to leave an entire world and life behind, wear a watch 24/7, and walk on eggshells to avoid breaking canon. It’ll end up like Miguel especially if they have a kid. And I kinda hope they pull the rug out under us by pointing out how impossible it is for them. But it is about going against all odds soooo
@@lupaloops4166it's cause you're gay 💀
@@lupaloops4166 They are not just friends. They’re flat out in love with each other, everyone sees it. You don’t have to ship, buts it’s factually the best developed CBM romance.
I went through this entire movie loving every second of it, it just felt like a complete sequel and it wasn’t like anything I’ve watched besides the first movie. And only remembered in the last 2 minutes that this was supposed to be a part 1 and I’d have to wait for the next part :(
The ending left me wanting and gave me anticipation for the second part
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 exactly as it should
Big agree with this video. Across the Spider-Verse felt perfect to me and, while I would have LOVED to see the conclusion to the whole story in this movie, they could not have chosen a better place to end it. This feels like "The Empire Strikes Back" for Spider-Man movies, and I mean that in the best possible way. I am so looking forward to the next one (though I'm not looking forward to it's possible delay).
i dont think theres gonna be a delay, ive heard people say that theyre 95% done with the movie they just have the voice and the music left so they might actually release it earlier
I don’t think it’s better than the first film, it more return of the Jedi. The last film was the empire strikes back in terms of quality.
Endgame came out exactly a year after Infinity War, so imagine how much work has to be put into an animated hybrid like Spider-Verse within that time. The rest of year now feels like it's going by very slowly.
@@rocket_cat4289 Have you heard all the horrific animator stories? I hope they delay it because those poor people don't deserve to be treated like that, even if it'll be a while.
I was NOT informed of the two-parter aspect so when the movie rolled credits I audibly said “NOOO-“ so that was a blueball but that did not take away any of my enjoyment this was a breathtaking film from start to finish but damn… gotta be patient.
id heard it had a weird ending but the roller coaster i went through thinking damn well i gotta wait 5 years and then finding out it was a year was the greatest emotional whiplash
I knew it was a 2-part but I wish I didn't because every second after the chase, I was thinking "It'll end right here..!" and then it didn't. "RIGHT HERE!!!" and it didn't. If it didn't know, I wouldn't think of it. I enjoyed every second, but I would have DEFINITELY enjoyed it more if I didn't know it had a 2nd part.
Shi i already knew this was gonna be a two parter and i was probably as shocked as you are. Damn goat spiderman movie right there, that and into the spiderverse
A one year wait is still better than a three year wait. Just ask the OG Star Wars fans after they came out of the Empire Strikes Back. Still, these next months will be moving by very slowly.
I remember when that moment came and I was like, it’s been a while, this is around the time a movie would end, and I started panicking and when it dawned on me I would have to wait 5 years for another one, I screamed in my head
I absolutely love middle movies with dark endings like this. Loved it in Empire Strikes Back too. The feeling of tension and dread, the built up crescendo of ideas and possibilities washing over the audience. It's just such a brilliant movie.
Miles deciding to do his own thing isn't the end of his character arc. When a character is faced with a difficult decision the consequences and character growth that result from their choice are what complete the character arc. To give an example of how this could go- Miles decided to reject established wisdom as it goes against his own principles. This decision could result in negative consequences. Perhaps saving his dad results in his universe nearly being erased and he learns that sometimes you have to accept hard truths for the greater good. This would complete his character arc.
Yeah Miles arc still has a lot of room left, it’s better to say the movie ends at him in a satisfying place with his arc that leaves you wanting more but not complete Gwen’s arc in comparison is more complete, which I think was intentional the movie starts and ends with her for a reason
I’m rusty on my Joseph Campbell but I think Miles is almost exactly at the halfway point of his heroes journey at the climax of the film. His rejection of Miguel and the spider society represents him embodying his values and accepting the balance of being himself and a superhero. The idea of Miles and Spider-Man being separate to him is dead, and he is reborn as accepting himself as both. Where we leave him in the film is approaching the next stage where he has to realize the consequences of that decision, represented by his Prowler persona that has clearly committed to his masked identity over his identity.
THANK YOU Just because the film ends on a cliffhanger doesn't make it incomplete I'm just glad we got a cliffhanger that made me excited for the Beyond the Spider-Verse Point being: Across the Spider-Verse is a perfect sequel, and that's canon
People saying the ending is bad are crazy. The 2 first LOTR movies have endings that hype you up for the sequel, and they are totally loved (myself included). Other examples: the Star Wars movies and Infinity War
My problem is that it isn't a complete STORY. It stings that you have to wait 9 months just to see how it ends. That's the reason what puts the first movie higher for me ever so slightly
@@Carlos-hz1le the movies I mentioned above serve as an example for this too, the story is only complete in the last sequel. The movie was originally even called "Across The Spider-Verse Part 1"
All i remember from across the spiderverse was 1. introduce the spot 2. portal to spiderman india 3. portal to spider area 4. introduce miguel 5. miguel tries to stop miles 6. chase 7. end that sounds like 1/2 of a movie, the spot was never defeated, there was no conclusion. we got a 2 hour exposition for a movie, lore was there enemies were introduced, but nothing was completed.
Omg, Im so DONE with ppl hating on a movie for the ending, like, have you ever guys heard of an open ending? LIKE EVER?
But this was not open ended. It wasn't an ending at all
No country for old men is a great example for an open ended movie
@@Ringoroadagain6 Hey how about you watch the video and pay attention. The movie does end. Just say it didn't happen in the way you expected it to for a superhero movie (fight scene after fight scene)
@@M_k-zi3tn I watched the video. Miles saying he is gonna do his own thing isn't a climax or a conclusion for the movie.
@@Ringoroadagain6 But it is, especially from a character arc perspective. The whole movie Miles wants to belong to a group of people just like him but gives that up when his core values and what he believes in is what needs to be sacrificed and decides to figure it out on his own instead of just accepting Miguels logic for acceptance in a place he's clearly not welcome. He asserts himself and gives destiny the ol' middle finger. "I know how powerful I am now", one of the lines he say at the end also emphasises how much more confident in himself he's become. So yeah, the movie ends.
5:36 That was the biggest twist of all. I never saw it coming. 😂
You make a very good point, along with everyone in the comments. However, the fact of the matter is that some people, like me, felt that the ending was a little abrupt, and I remember feeling a little disappointed. I have to admit that I wasnt't aware there was going to be a third part. But still, no amount of people on the internet justifying this narrative structure and explaining why it's not really a problem is going to change the fact that a group of people had a negative instinctive reaction to the ending. Is that a flaw of the movie or the viewer? Who knows. Regardless, this IS one of the best films I have seen in a very long time, so I my feelings overall are insanely positive, but I felt like making the point
The phrase canon event has been engrained in my friend group now
I feel the same. I've been seeing people downplay an amazing movie because it didn't end the way they wanted. In my personal opinion the ending is perfect and builds suspense for the next movie
it's just underwhelming. That doesn't mean the movie isn't amazing. It was incredible, the themes for each character really made you feel how you needed, too. I don't think anyone is upset because they didn't guess right. I think they, and me, are upset because there was no closure. Like when reviewing the movie in my mind, all i can think is... "Oh, right, this is all meant to be a lead up to his father being in danger." I don't mean to minimize it by my wording, it just seems like they could've told the father canon event story, imagine if it was first dealing with the canon event, then realizing it was spots doing, rigging everything to make spiderman pay for what he did. Ruining his image and taking his life away.
And for those wondering where the spot was for like half the movie: L&M confirmed there were deleted scenes of the spot getting mocked in a bar by Spider-Man villains and in the post credits scene he was gonna solo them after mumbahttan. Explaining where he was for so long. They’re cut because it’s a cliffhanger, doesn’t feel right to have them. But we’ll get an alternate universe cut that has them
Your video essays are great
Basically in food terms, we finish New York’s famous Miles Pizza and now we have to wait for the mile’s prowler wings to be ready to be fully satisfied and even without it we’re still satisfied.😺
thank you. i get it now
I loved the part when Miguel said “it’s miguel’in time” and migueled everywhere
DANG! What a last line. This whole video was fire. What a great breakdown of a great film.
One of my favourite content creators talking about one of my favourite movies of this year, featuring one of my favourite music artists. Since I've heard you featuring Nujabes in a few videos of yours up until this point, maybe one day you could make a video about him as well?
5:04 Just want to say, the joke and the cut you made here to Miles' mouth webbed shut... hilarious.
I- can’t believed I missed this like I knew but it was hard to put into words def subscribing tho
I know what I’m doing for the next 10 min
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I already know this is a quality vid Nasu! Really appreciate your thoughtfulness and humor bro
I'm personally ok was the ending, even if they weren't going to make a sequel. Not enough films use the open-ended ending. That sense of mystery and self-interpretation is so underutilized.
This movie was great i loved it. I love seeing people sing its praises
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I hear that mvc2 soundtrack. You are goated.
THANK YOU BROOOO Holy shit i seen so many ppl nitpicking this movie just because of it's cliffhanger ending. The movie is complete, and an easy example of that it Gwen's Arc in it. She goes from doing everything on her own, and pushing Miles and her dad away, to leaning on her friends to go save him. "I've always wanted to start a band. Wanna join?" Also i loooved Miguel in this movie. Ik he's a villain, but brooo i needed some good Mexcian rep, and im so happy we got it AAA
Bro. The way you say "the first film Miles tries to become Spiderman" and "the second film Miles tries to make a balance between Miles Morales and Spider Man" for me is so reminiscent of Kung Fu Panda. First film Po is trying to break past his physical limitation, second film he's trying to find an answer for his past and present (atleast I think so) and it's so cool
…you just made me realize that Spider-Verse, Lord of the Rings, and Kung Fu Panda are like the Holy Trinity of Movie Trilogies …and one of those things isn’t even complete yet (as of writing this comment)!
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The movie was amazing and is the Empire Strikes back of Spider verse and animation and superhero genre. Its all downhill from here. All for it!!! Happy i got to experience the heights.
In the next movie I really wanna see Miguel become the hero I KNOW he can be, been following the character for a while and although I like his interpretation in ATSV I kinda miss seeing him as the hero, that moment in Edge of Time when he risks the integrity of the whole fabric of space and time just to save his pal's girlfriend his still one of the character's best moments
the pokemon review had me thinking you were like every single reviewer but after finishing it and dying at how funny that was man this channel is fuckin great you're insanely funny while also being a great reviewer (or commentator idk) but you're fuckin great dude keep it up
In away its comparable to the empire strikes back as it doesnt have a very satisfying ending but its still an amazing movie
Don’t even matter if it’s 7 minutes after all it’s a Nasu video
That internal struggle he feels does get resolve. The moment on the train, when everyone is chasing him and miguel is about to trap him he says, "Nah... Imma do my own thing." The first movie focused on Miles's emptiness, new school, no friends, new powers, no help. Because no one else really could help him. He had to take that leap of faith. In ATSV, his issues is know that he is getting it figured out, everyone is finally telling him how his story should go. This part of the film is closed. the internal conflict has been solved. When people refer to the cliffhangers, i don't think anyone, for any movie, ever, has meant the emotional conflict. if emotions aren't resolved, people imagine the feeling just lingering. It was very upsetting to everyone to see this build up, even introduce a doppleganger, and treat like its a tune in next week thing. We know from decades of mcu that battles can happen while leading up to the big bad.
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I loved across the spiderverse oh gave me everything I ever wanted especially as a Spider-Man fan and seeing my all time favorite character mayday Parker spider-girl from the comics finally adapted in animation makes me so happy that I can’t wait to see what happens next, also seeing miles morales Spider-Man and spidergwen become a couple is really cute that I can’t wait to see what happens next with this amazing movie at least in my opinion.
That boy nasu dont miss! exactly what i was saying!
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man, I gotta watch this
Glad it turned out this way since that means we get more out of these characters including Spot.
ur scripts have so much substance and like the perfect humor it’s awesome lol
You make me love this movie more and morw.❤
This and the Empire Strikes Back is sequel bait done right! Those movies didn't need a post-credits scene to hook us for the next movie.
that last line was cold.
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This is what I've been TRYING TO tell people!!!!!!!!!!! THE MOVIE IS VERY COMPLETE.
My problem ain't that it ends on a cliffhanger, or that it's "not s complete package" the problem is that I felt the latter part of the movie was a waste of time, I was looking at the clock and for 20-30 mins it felt that they didn't want to advance the plot so it could end on a cliffhanger that was alredy settled. And i was like ok time for something to happen not much time left, and I kept looking at the clock and nothing came until the very end when what was expected to happen a while ago went by in the fucking last minute.
5:05 same brother, the indominadble spirit of the exaggerated swagger of a black teen just possessed me and I nearly yelled at Miguel and did a back flip when miles crossed him up
Spot is the main VILLAIN But Miguel is the main ANTAGONIST Think you got the 2 mixed up
Im wondering so like you know how imto the spiderverse to across the spiderverse they went to different realities well like in beyond the spiderverse the title makes me think they are gonna put other kinds of heroes like captain america or say hulk Cause It is called beyond the spiderverse
i like the idea of leaving us bread crumbs for the next film, but i would have prefered if it had ended with miles realising hes in the wrong universe or with him getting knocked out, instead of the middle of a scene where tension is rising.
Gwen finding the right band and forming it to help save Miles is literally essential to her character arc, you can’t end the story with Miles in his room
@kingsknowledge6084 im not saying leave that out. miles learns hes in the wrong world, gwen gets the band together to find him, end film.
@@shealtiel__ So basically your ending didn’t change anything what’s so ever. The reason the band seen works is because there’s urgency, Miles is trapped by his alternate self on earth 42 therefore Gwen’s team rescuing him heightens the stakes
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Academy Awards for Best Animated Feature.
Well said
Im usually one to stick out and not agree with popular takes but goddamn I'm riding the train for this one. Best movie of the year easily.
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idk, story is lacking for me, visuals are amazing, but i would have liked a complete arc of some kind, feels more like we hit the pause button partway through and are gonna finish the movie later, kinda like we went to commercial break rather than finishing the episode and waiting for the next. None of the bad guys are dealt with, there wasnt any closed loops, and the only problem that was solved is miles knows more about himself, which usually comes right before the climax of a movie. Like the avengers in the helicarrier when coleson "dies" thats their darkest hour "we can do this, we know who we are and we can work together to fix this" moment, we would be pretty upset if the movie just, stopped there. Sure it had some emotional growth, but, its not a full movie without the ending i didnt really find the scene with alternate reality mom like, all that cathartic, shes not the person he wants to tell, shes not the person that even understands the words hes saying, he might as well have been talking to a mannequin in his bedroom, it has the same effect of a scene where we think he is talking to her, but, it just cuts to a wider angle and its him talking to himself in his room preparing for it.... kinda undercuts everything. So we spend most of that scene thinking "wait, something is off.... oh shit, hes in the wrong universe" not "wow, that was so heartfelt and such a big moment that has big consequences for this movie." and with gwen, her dad was gonna shoot her, thought she murdered her best friend, and was gonna put her in jail for that assumption, theres not really anything he could say that makes up for that. I full on thought it was gonna be "youre a good cop.... but a bad dad.... im getting my stuff and going." which would have felt more appropriate given the situation, then it could been addressed later, not, like, 8 weeks after he waved a gun in her face and popped off a warning shot at his daughter. so, i felt like one was rushed beyond reason, and one was dragged out only to have a rug pull. idk, i was kinda blindsided by the end, and so was my friend who was watching with me, there was part of an emotional arc, cause while its close to being done, its not over until he tells his family, cause like, thats a really important part of the situation, instead he told a stranger and we're supposed to consider that the same cause she looks like her?
I love this video, this is exactly how i feel
I will say, I’ve never seen someone get so angry that they start chasing someone else on all fours.
Movie was fantastic I watched it twice in theater and pre ordered on Apple TV but ending did get me, it was just to much build up just to wait over a year for the next one. Ending could’ve eased into it instead of a hard drop
My main gripe with people saying the movie feels incomplete is that that isn't even something remotely new and/or particular to this movie. It's a concept that's been around for decades. It's like saying Empire Strikes Back is incomplete because Luke doesn't beat Darth Vader in the end and they don't get Han Solo uncarbonized. Even in more recent years we saw a whole ass movie where Evil Grimace offs half of existence right before the movie ends. Where people just unaware that this was a half-way point of sorts for the story? Or are they just nitpicking? I thought the movie was perfect as it is and it made me mad excited to see how the whole story unfolds in Beyond.
Some serious cognitive dissonance going in regards to people praising IW and criticizing ATSP
Good video very underated I was engage all video
I didn't know it was a Part One going in so I'm pretty pissed. Also, it's not even a full story arc and they spend the whole first hour just "setting up." My wife lost interest after the first hour. I stuck through and finished tonight. While I enjoyed it (after the first hour) I was pretty upset to find out it wasn't even the whole movie. Like don't surprise me with that shit.
You didn't mention the serious regression of Peter B Parker. All the progress we see him make at the end of the previous movie was lost because for some reason he continuously brings his baby everywhere. Had Peter Parker Spider-Man not even been in this movie and maybe revealed at the end alongside the rest of the original cast at the end of the movie I would have been so much happier. I'm not watching the sequel, that was bullshit.
I can’t wait for the third movie
you the best of all of us man. just keep going
hopeful I quoted that right
My favorite thing about the ending is how it feels like a comic book ending :D
I like how he is sneaky with his words and says not just, while its true its not just triquel bait, it is a chunk of triquel bait and he acknowledges that by choosing careful words in the thumbnail lol
0:50, hahahahha, ok, this joke got me
I recognize the 1XBET up top. They kept stopping the movie to play some cinematic. Ts was mad annoying 💀
It is
I stubbed my toe on a soulslike door frame.
Damn, now I have a reason to watch the movie again.
nice video i enjoy
2 things I thought, 1; I used to read a lot of books, and the best books (the ones i'd get truly addicted too and just lay in bed til i'd read all i had access too) where the ones where every book was a complete arc but never ended the story til the last chapter of the last book in the series, this is what across the spider-verse does, it completes Gwen's arc with her dad and gives us a sense of closure, but miles still has issues to overcome. 2; why the fuck are people complaining about it being a "teen drama"??? the other option is we get a "story" like ant man 3. the greatest stories are the ones everyone can relate to and appreciate (its a plus if the 8 yr olds are entertained) and teen drama is so much more impactful than "i shrunk into the quantum realm and fought in a war with ants against a flying head".
Where was the TVA this whole time? Also why not killing spider 42/Miles and the anomaly ends? One of the themes of the movie is sacrifice. How does time work in this anyway?
i really dont think anyone wants to see the tva in these movies
Across the Spider Verse was a great movie. I'm so excited for Beyond the Spider Verse which comes out on my birthday next year.
this movie has an anime style to it and usually anime shows have two MC's
It’d be interesting what the reception to the Cliffhanger would be if Miles learning he’s on Earth 42 and meeting E42 Miles was a post credit scene
Cuz like Gwen’s big speech at the end was the perfect cap to the movie
People never complained that infinity war was incomplete
What is the conclusion?
Miles doesn't reveal he's spider-man to his parents, he reveals it to a different version of his mother and it basically is a null point. Hopefully he reveals it to his actual parents in the next movie.
It’s the fact that he had the confidence to reveal his identity to his parents is where the character development comes at play. It was brilliant, even if it was his wrong mom
@@Treck533 yeah, but the arc has not been completed, he hasn't actually revealed any important information to anyone. If he reveals the information to his actual mother without hesitation then the arc will truly have completed.
@@AndrewGlitchMasterBalaschak No that’s not the point. It’s the journey not the destination. The fact that he had the courage and resolve to reveal his biggest secret is his character arc for this film
@@AndrewGlitchMasterBalaschak well she would've been his real mom, but she was not and he didn't knew that before so..
Just because the conflict was resolved doesn't mean the movie is finished. Would you say Into the Spiderverse is finished if the movie ended with the leap of faith? The main conflict of living up to spiderman has been finished right??
Okay fine did you want to watch a five hour movie? Tf could they do the movie HAD to be split into two parts there's no way they could make a five hour movie? And by that logic Infinity War was an incomplete movie because the conflict with the villain was not resolved
@@rinsekai but the ending of ATPV was dissatisfying. IW is a better ending to a sequel.
5:04 ayo?
For me I couldn't get into the film personally. I just... didn't find it funny as the original? Especially Spot. His jokes got on my nerves and look, I GET he's supposed to be pathetic... but I just thought that the writers did too *good* of a job (the bagel joke ESPECIALLY ran its course) (same with Indian Spider-Man and his chai tea bit). Also I WANTED to love the music but the only track that stood out was during the chasing sequence. I admired Miles's aesthetic so much from the first film that I... kinda wanted to see a movie just revolving around his world? I couldn't get into Gwen's world... Indian Spider-Man's world was eh... I dunno. I'm so tired of the multiverse at this point. Not to say I didn't enjoy the movie. The best parts imo were when they expanded upon the first film (SPECIFICALLY Miguel)... but I think I would've preferred a simple, down-to-Earth film with Miles doing his own thing. As for the movie, I get what you're saying... I get what the movie's saying... but I dunno man. I know it isn't incomplete, but the stopping point still felt a bit off. I want the next movie, but I dunno if I can stomach any more Spider-Verse... or multiverse stuff... after this. It's like telling yourself "I can only eat this much". I wanted to love this movie... but I'm tired homie... so... so tired...
the multiverse is getting really cliché these so much rick and morty, the flash, that everywhere all at once movie ant man with the whole council of kang thing. its just been done so much. ehhh people are say this is the best animated movie of all time i dont see it
Absolutely agree vis a vis the completeness of this film. I think Spider-verse changed the way I think about cliff hangers and really highlighted what makes a good one work. Namely that you have to pair the open ended questions (the fate of Spider-Society, the Spot, Earth 42) with satisfyingly closed narrative arcs (Gwen's relationship with her Dad, Miles building the confidence to talk to his parents, Miles attempt to escape Spider-Society and return home [Miles failed that last one, but it doesn't make it an incomplete story, just one with a less happy ending]). I think often we talk about stories like they have only one central tension curve and everything else is just noise, but in an ensemble piece like this you actually have multiple, layered tension curves building texture by weaving in and out of each other. Miles failure to return home gives stakes to Gwen's victory and makes it a heroic closure to her emotional arc, Gwen's initial problems with her Dad gives context to Miles' by showing us a potential bad outcome and so on and so on. Obviously there are uncompleted themes and ideas, but there are also ones that are totally closed and I think your bread crumbs metaphor works really well.
It's just an incomplete story not an incomplete film.
hat was that u said at 5:03😂
5:35 🤣🤣🤣🤣