Remake Remaster Recycle | Gaming's Re-release Obsession
2023 ж. 29 Мам.
145 051 Рет қаралды
Go to brilliant.org/Nasu
to get a 30-day free trial + the first 200 people will get 20% off their annual subscription.
Everyone loves to play their favorite video games... I mean they're "favorites" for a reason. But what if you could experience your favorites again.. remade. Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Pokémon, Metal Gear, among other major titles. We've been seeing a LOT of remakes and remasters lately. Why is that. Is it all good? All bad? Let's talk about it. Spoiler alert, it's somewhere in the middle.
Twitter: / nasuprime
Twitch: / nasuprime
the fragment about preserving the older games just hits harder when you still think about how rockstar fucked over everyone by deleting the originals from stores
They actually deleted the originals? That’s fucked up
@@smaaron_j_46yep, unless you owned the rights to it because you bought it through Valve. You can't purchase it anymore. It is installable if you did buy it back in the day. Funny, installable. Yet not there for purchase for others....WTF!? Edit: myt as well Pirate a PC copy since they won't have it available for purchase. Hate the modern gaming syndrome today.
That's basically what fromsoftware did with demon's souls remake. Now the original game is stuck forever on the ps3
@@m3nta293the difference in my opinion is the GTA remakes was an objectively worse change. Demon souls remake, while a bit greedy was a huge step up graphically from the original.
Whatever sick american game about killing people and commiting crimes with disgusting characters. The only american game I enjoyed in the last 10 years was It Takes Two, that one was creative I must say. English is not my first language thanks god.
Actually Final Fantasy 7's remake was pushed away for the longest time. Square Enix kept denying making that throughout all of 6th gen and 7th gen. This is due to Square wanting to make other games (FF10, FF11, FF12, FF13, FF14, FF15) instead of going back to the well. they only caved in because the original devs who worked on it were started to realize they were getting old and the window for them to remake it was closing. This is why they didn't announce it until 2015
I always thought the FFVII Remake should have been more like the Resident Evil Remake for the GameCube, with all the pre-rendered background being more detailed as well as the characters models. But I think that would have been difficult since FFVII's asthetics have changed since the release of Advent Children, I mean the original FFVII was very cartoony, or should I say anime, don't think Nomura was going for a realistic artstyle, I think that was a reason why the game took so much time to be made, since they had to find a new look more consistent with the spin-offs Now I'm wondering if Square is planning on remaking previous FF titles, there's some rumors about FFIX remake. On the Enix side of the company we have more remakes of the Dragon Quest series, with DQIII remake being made in a HD-2D style, I wonder if Square has considered remaking one of the first 6 FF games in that style as well
I have a little theory that it's also partly because of Sakurai. When he asked to include Cloud in Smash 4 Square Enix initially wanted to make him put Noctus in the game instead since he was the most recent protagonist. But Sakurai refused and replied that a lot more people knew about Cloud and would be a better representative to the entire FF franchise. I think Sakurai's words was a wake up call for Square Enix that made them realise that they were leaving money on the table by leaving their most iconic entry in the series untouched for so long and ignoring the fans request for a remake.
@@wintersong2266 actually Sakurai met with Tetsuya Nomura about bringing a Final Fantasy character to Smash and Cloud was Sakurai's first choice, Nomura told him “are you sure you’re okay with Cloud? He’s not a character from a new game, after all", but Sakurai responded "if you think about who to add from FF, it’s hard to come up with a choice that’s not Cloud". Sakurai other options were Bartz from FFV and Terra from FFVI, but he thought people wouldn't know who they were, and while at the time FFVII never appeard on a Nintendo console, Cloud was the most recognizable character from the most popular game in the series, so that's why he choose him, and at least Cloud appeared in two games on Nintendo systems (Kingdom Hearts and Theatrhythm). Though it's kind of sad that the only FF representation in Smash comes from FFVII, Joker came with tracks from P3 and P4 and Hero represents DQIII, IV, VIII and XI. Same thing with Ryu and Ken, they only represent SFII while Terry has music from plenty of SNK games and Kazuya has tracks from all of the main Tekken games.
That's not even a remake.
@@MonsterfromHell2543 NOT THIS BOT AGAIN
bethesda released skyrim for the 53rd time and every single problem that was in the initial release is still there, thank you todd
That's why Bethesda's the goat
Hopefully I'll be able to play Skyrim Casio Edition for my math calculator someday :)
@@HishamA.N_Comicbroe Gigathesda
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES
16x the release.
I love Nasu's use of memes, deadpan and sarcastic humor and the occasional dank joke.
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES
@@MonsterfromHell2543nobody cares
when nasu said "nowadays we just call that a switch port" i was hooked in.
@@MonsterfromHell2543 "i hate released games" you w h a t ? ?
@@MonsterfromHell2543 you hate games that were released?
This is really going to hurt game development in the long run. There's a whole new generation of game devs that are just focused on enhancing someone else's work rather than bringing a whole new creation into existence. I appreciate basic re-releases because it helps us play games on modern hardware, but spending so much time on remakes and remasters of games that probably don't really need them feels like a waste.
I can see your point, however, some remakes and reimaginings that can bring new life into a game, or the uncharted territory of redeeming a bad game (Devil May Cry 2 for example) can be valuable experiences for both the player and the dev. Maybe its good for devs to learn from the past to improve the offerings we get today On the other hand I have a very negative position regarding movie remakes, especially the disney live action remakes
@Janon that's a fair point. I made a blanket statement but there's definitely more nuance to the situation.
@@Janon743 I agree on both sides of this tbh original works shouldnt be hindered by recreations of the past but instead they should learn from it well.. as they say "You shouldnt linger on the past but instead learn from it"
i mean u say that now until they start talkin about force unleashed remake😂or whatever it is u fw heavy
@@thiccxloaf747 I can acknowledge I'd be a hypocrite for some game surely
I can't wait for the remake of this video ! Jokes aside, I love your content. Your videos are always a must watch the moment I see them in my notifications
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
@@MonsterfromHell2543😮
Its crazy that people are dead ass serious in calling 2023 one of the best years for gaming, people really will just eat up slop.
Babe wake up, new Nasu vid dropped
bish wake up; yurafag
So gaming has the same problem as the rest of the entertainment industry :(
Starting to get this problem though, movies are on their like what, third generations of remake now? Gaming will probably reach this point in 5 years.
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
where are the book remakes lmao
mark my words, there WILL BE a change writers for streaming services are getting fed up and wanna strike. underplayed, bad working environment and no creativity . sounds a lot like triple a game development it's not impossible that this happens with games too. coding isn't just math, you need to be creative too. and the dev crunch... disgusting. fuck blizzard the bad games getting released... it can't go on forever, bad reviews do affect a company. scamming people by preordaring will eventually lead to people stopping preordering because they know it's a scam
yea but at least the remakes are good and revitalize interest in the franchises, like dead space might get a new game, silent hill 2 remake brings along new fans so they can make new games, the resident evil games are really good.
Love what you say in the description. This isn't a good or bad thing necessarily but can be really frustrating.
I think that remasters/remakes should be done only when it's necessary. The Last of Us Part 1 is the perfect example of a unnecessary remake/remaster. There hasn't any need for that game and yet they still did it... But the recent remakes of RE games are a great example for doing remakes/remasters at the right time: with the RE4 remake ending, I'll be happy to see RE5 and RE6 remade, with certainty that they'll fix the mistakes of the OG versions.
@@matheusbarbosa999 Very true. Tho I do like the Tlou remake as it very much enhances the characters.
@@matheusbarbosa999 heh for the RE4 remake, RE4 did not need a remake and now what happens when someone wants to play re4? Will they replay the original that redefined the entire genre? Or the newest one that does the same thing other games have done before?
@@thechugg4372 From my understanding, Capcom is prepared for this situations. That's why they keep the OG's versions of their games available so people who don't like the remakes get their chances to play the versions they enjoy. I think everyone deserves the rights to play whathever the version they like. Not satisfied with re4 remake is fine, so you can stick up to the OG version, but if people enjoy re4 remake, let then enjoy. Everyone will either like something or another.
@@HishamA.N_Comicbroe Taking away the bugs and perfomances problems the game came with, I still find it unnecessary. The remastered version of TLOU for ps4 was fine like wine when I played at a freind's house, and this remake is sorta of unneeded. But, like Green Goblin said: "To each it's own".
Remake or remaster is code name for we've ran out of ideas nowadays
The worst part is what you mentioned. Remake culture doesnt remake games that actually need a remake. Its always popular classic games that have modern ports and hold up just fine. Its morally, creatively and ethically bankrupt. The companies are basically saying "fuck you, easy money."
This comment is 100% right
Yea most the games doesn't need a remake, basically any games from the PS3/Xbox 360 era shouldn't be remake well most of them but yea, if we talking about PS2/Xbox games then yea they should be remake
FF7 remake was a very good choice, so was resident 4 remake, they want your money but they give you 10/10 entertainment, why are you complaining?
@@arthurortiz8206 FF7 remake is mid as fuck and its only half the game and Resident Evil 4 didn't need a remake at all. I argue Resident Evil 0 could benefit more from a Remake with the 2 character mechanic and stuff. Also Re4 isnt bad but definitely not a 10/10 the original is still slightly superior
@@nihilblue9669 Nah bro you're opinion is factually incorrect, ff7 is not mid and it got the remake it deserved
I want to play the remake of 7, but only once they complete the whole thing.
You'll have grandkids by then
@@malicekerendu3574 I'm in the same boat. Me and my grandkids will just have to enjoy it together.
@@malicekerendu3574 That's just nonsense. The production of the sequel is going much faster than the first installment.
The first part does feel relatively complete, but yeah, it is annoying to split the original up into three 40+ hour games.
Erm, spoiler it's a sequel not a remake... And I got 80+ hours out of the part 1, part 1, 2 and 3 is gonna be one hell of a session. Remake is a play on words because Sephiroth is remaking history.
One thing I've noticed about The Last of Us "Part 1" is that in any and every modern video discussing events from the first game, they are using the remake footage. If you watched any compare and contrasts between the show and the game, without fail, they were using the remake footage. It is beyond clear to me this was the true purpose of that remake- Even in some pieces referencing the 2013 release, they are using the remake footage! TLOU "Pt 1" might be the first true example I've seen of the new version literally meant to replace the old one.
Idk if Monkey Island SE was meant to replace the original but it practically did
...and so was the 2014 "remaster" already which was just a port of the game on hardware that could actually run it properly. Are they just going to redo that game every console generation and charge full price for it again and again?
@@PauLtus_Bprobably. I'm personally not a big fan of the game, but because of how many people do, they will port it every single console generation
@@pogethedoge I think the releases of it have been rather scummy. In terms of its initial release and its first "remaster" I do believe it was optimised for PS4 and then cranked down to run on PS3. Can't know this for sure, but PS3 tLoU looked like when I was trying to run a game on my laptop that it actually couldn't handle. In terms of it being good... I think it's "good", sure. But I also hate it being put on a pedestal as an example of how great gaming can be. In terms of its cultural achievement I'm just seeing it as a "please take us videogames seriously, we can do the stuff movies can too!"
@@PauLtus_B I'm happy if a video game has a good story, but I prefer then to do it in a way only a video game can tell it. I think dark souls 1 and ff7 are good examples
Just stumbled across your channel. Loved the unfinished AAA teardown. Great sense of humour and pace. Subscribed!
Replacing the original game is always a finicky thing. My biggest issue (mostly with Capcom) is the remake taking the mantel of the original game's title with no subtitle. It's not Resident Evil 4 Remake. It's just Resident Evil 4. When you search for RE4 now you'll get a mismosh of both games but favors the new game so get fucked if you're playing the original. This is a trend that goes outside games and is why as a fan of MGS I'm immediately okay with whatever Konami does to MGS3. Simply because the game is not called MGS3. It's subtle but makes a huge difference to me.
Reminds me of the original Minecraft made from Java being changed to "Minecraft: Java Edition" and the one from Microsoft that's made in C++, the Bedrock Edition, is just named "Minecraft", after all the Minecraft editions that they made and the moment crossplay happened.
True. And with some changes done by the remakes, it will certainly come off as retconning the OG storylines. It would've been fine if it was properly titled, as it may be considered an AU of its own. But naming and marketing it the same as the OG really blurs the line on what is now canon and not.
I mean the original RE remake does the same thing, every remake does that even movies so I don’t see it as a problem
@@charlestonobryant807 There's a subtle distinction, the original creative director was on the project. Remakes without the original creator are not invalidiated, but I think it's a worthy distinction.
I loved your video. I agree with your statement that remakes shouldn't replace the original even though my favorite remake is RE 1 2002. This video makes me wish that capcom would port the original Re 1-3 on modern consoles as many people believe their remakes are replacements. I'm in the age group of most modern casual gamers (maybe a little younger) and I love older games. I'm glad to see we agree on the modern state of remakes.
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
Eh I disagree with RE1R specifically, that one is an objective upgrade in every single way to og RE1 and the only reason to play that version is either cause it's the only one you have or cause you hate yourself.
@@thegamerfe8751 Actually they have ported RE 1 on PS plus, I was talking about 2 and 3 as their remakes are much more different but I do agree with our opinion on RE 1.
I'm also on the younger age group of RE fans but prefer the older games. I was only 5 when RE4 came out and wasn't even born when RE2 was released. I do remember my brother playing RE1 on our childhood and I rediscovered the RE franchise around 2014-2015 and made me a fan of the franchise ever since. Even though I couldn't afford the games and I didn't own a PC/console (only watched my brother play pirated versions lol) then, I fell in love with the lore and characters and would spend hours reading on Wikis, forums, and watch gameplays and cutscenes in KZhead. I do wish they would port the old games on modern consoles. I agree with what you say that many people are treating the remakes as replacements, and the changes in the storylines and character motivations and personalities in the remakes feel like the OG stories and characters are being retconned. I saw so many arguments of people not understanding the characters and story, like for example with regards to Leon and Ada's dynamics. A lot of people that only played RE2 remake are questioning the relationship between these two since the remake made Ada manipulative and callous towards Leon. Whereas in the original, Ada, while being undercover, was a very gentle, calm, but secretive and mysterious character who likes to run away from the eager Leon for the sake of accomplishing her mission. Not to mention they also replaced her canon death too from Leon B scenario, which she died by saving Leon from the Tyrant. Their relationship in the OG is what made their chemistry palpable in the OG RE4. The problem with remaking RE is that the OG timeline is yet to be given proper resolution especially after RE6 left us hanging since RE7 just gave us a new story and character. Thus doing more remakes will certainly come off as rewriting the whole lore of the OG.
@@key5270 In my mind (and capcoms) these remakes are supposed to be a different timeline. These RE remakes are very good games but people should view them as there own separate thing. I hope capcom releases the OG games (1-cv) on modern platforms to preserve them because game preservation is important.
Nasu's absolute briliant delivery of many of his lines made me laugh as per usual while giving a great dissection of the topic. Brillaint video man.
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
"Or set sail for the One Piece" that is the best euphemism i've ever heard.
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
Nasu is a genius creator bro, please upload more, ur videos are so fire
My favorite official video game remake is kirby super star ultra cause it improves on pretty much every issue of the original while adding tons of new stuff the only issue is that it has slightly lower quality music which even then is mitigated by all the great new music
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES
Super Star Ultra is probably the only remake I’ve ever seen where fans never argue wether the original is better or not. In my opinion SSU and Resident Evil 1 are “perfect” remakes.
@@KNIGHTMARE__ zero mission and fan made remakes like am2r,sonic p-06, and rayman redemption are also pretty good
The DS screens have a slightly lower vertical resolution than the SNES (256x192 vs 256x224), so it's *technically* not quite an upgrade on all fronts as you lose a few pixel rows at the top and bottom, but that probably hardly matters
The middle point of Resident Evil games are coming up for the remakes. Which raises the question: Do we need Remakes for RE 5 and 6?
RE 5 could be a great remake. RE 6 on the other hand… yikes.
Those 2 would need BIG reimaginations to actually align with the recent trends of the RE games
@@German_Empire_Enjoyer I think they can fix up the mistakes for RE6. Only time to tell.
With RE5, it's possible to get a remake, the big hurdle is the coop part. For RE6, it will take a massive change because of it's large cast, intertwining storylines confounded even further by the coop. I don't think Capcom will risk making something on grand scale like RE6. An RE6 remake will have to be downsized significantly and splintered like a mini series.
5 is the only RE game I've played and didn't care much for it so I'm all for seeing what a different approach could look like
First time viewer and I must say this was really informative and well done .✌. I'm an old school gamer and I loved how you explained your point of views.. Keep up the good work👍.... Liked and subscribed.
Zeebo I had forgotten all about that console that released in Brazil and Mexico. Good video essay wild you don’t have a lot of subscribers but a great deal of views. Subbing
I very much enjoyed your take (sorry that youtube didn't highlight this video when it released). I completely agree with your sentiment. Always have the history available and have the new interpretations of that history be new. Will it always work? No. But at least take the chance and make the best (version) game you can.
This is why I think ff7r, and re2 are the best remakes. They're completely new experiences that take inspiration from the originals that made those games so popular
Thats the thing with the gaming industry nowdays, where mobile games make almost 50% of all the profits in the whole industry and most AAA studios/publishers are publicly traded companies with investors that want as insane profits as possible with little investments, so what do studios decide to do? Instead of trying to create something new which takes time and effort, just recycle the old stuff that people love, costs less money to make and generates good profits. This is why becoming a publicly traded gaming company/studio in 90% of the cases means death of all passion from that studio which is a shame. Now remakes and remasters have their place, there are many beloved games that aren't or are hardly accessible anymore but what is happening now is just milking of an almost dead cow. Great video!
I just have to say I really love your channel. You always say things I completely agree with that I never see a lot of people saying and you’re never overly biased to one side of an argument.
Preciate u 🤝 but even tho I try my best to acknowledge counter arguments I still have biases as anyone does granted that may be harder to see if we agree on everything. Don’t be shocked when I eventually drop the vid you don’t agree with 100%
Loved this video mate, great job.
They better show that damn snake impaled on that tree. FF7 had a horror aspect and I loved it.
This is actually a really good video. I tbought it was gonna be a rant, but it's actually well done. Got a subscribe out of me!
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
same, seeing the oversaturation of video essayist in gaming space divisive content for the sake of audience engagement to cater to the algorithm
@@SL4PSH0CK Crowbcat in a nutshell
Liked and subscribed for that Nomura segment. The scapegoating of the man is getting out of control
cant believe i found someone else who plays the original and then the remake. literally did the same thing you did with FF7, and now I just finished the original RE4, going to play remake now
It's a good day when Nasu uploads a new vid
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
can't wait for "Pong: Remastered" to come out, been too long
pong remastered is pretty much impossible, its identity is tied to how simplistic and basic it is. if someone remastered it, it probably wouldn't be pong anymore lol
Didn’t rockstar already do that?
oh boy he doesn't know, there's been a lot kid, a lot of pong remasters....
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
Well careful what you wish for I heard it will have cosmetic store for ball and pallets colors as well as mtx for buying additional “lives”. 😝😝😝
Its a dicey road to begin on. I often times used to equate remasters as being akin to movies going from dvd to high definition. You were getting the same work of art, just upscaled and refined for modern displays. In the case of games that might involve fixing bugs, reconfiguring the prior controls, but as you've illustrated it sometimes goes well beyond that and suddenly words like remake or being thrown into the conversation as well. Then you reach a certain point where the latest release of a certain game, is vastly different from its original iteration. From a historical angle, it creates a headache to say the least when trying to explain to oneself how a series began, to what it is now.
these videos are some of the best on youtube. you keep putting out shit like this and you will 100% hit 1m subs one day
Remakes happen imo because when technology was newer it didnt allow some games to do what Devs actually imagined. My favorite examples are final fantasy games. Im confident turn based rpgs originally were a product of restriction rather than solely game design. The other half is from the consumer view point. We all pictured in our mind how for ex. turn based combat ACTUALLY looks in real time or how certain blocky characters would look with greater detail. Thats why things like advent children had awe factors. With all that said the last part is devs & consumer have a limited amount of time in life. & most have SOME desire to relieve what they used picture in thier minds but this time in actuality. Its a power emotion that cant blame anyone for possessing.
Ah yes, the unskippable cut scenes in Kingdom Hearts on the PS2. I don't miss that.
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
There's no way you're taking Kairi's heart
@@SteelBallRunner!!!Kingdom Hearts!!!, fill me with the powers of !!!Darkness!!!.
hell yeah! new NASU video
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥IIIIII HAAAAATE REEEEMAAAAAASTER I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
damn I usually never laugh out loud when i watch videos but 10:35 took me tf out subscribed right after, cheers👍
I think youre right that FF7R was well within its rights to expand and make additions to the plot, and honestly seeing the entire compilation seamlessly incorporated into the plot, worldbuiliding and character roster would have been the best case scenario. Be that as it may, theres elements of FF7 that I would consider integral to the experience that I think FF7R has basically abandoned. While Kitase himself basically said they didnt think they could do the mystery part of sephiroth anymore because of how iconic he is, in reality all they needed to do was translate the originals perfect execution of this aspect into the new gameplay and engine and they would have been able to maintain this experience for the new audience while still delivering something new to long time fans. Sephiroths characterisation is one of those integral parts and I think regardless of his pop culture status the mystery and power surrounding him should have been maintained. Instead they have irreversibly cucked him by putting him front and centre as well as having you beat him not a quarter of the way through the story. The Kalm flashback where hes in your party and the migar zolom impalement scene cannot realistically have any weight following part 1. The irritating thing about this new characterisation is that it stems from this widespread idiotic obsession with novelty, where everything has to be a subversion or 'fresh' to keep people interested, which is ironic because people want to experience this novelty through nostalgic experiences via remakes. Its pretty ass backwards and isnt a sustainable direction for games to go in. Doesn't matter now, sqenix fanboys and fangirls will happily pay $70 to play the next artificially fluffed entry so they can argue on twitter over which two male characters are definitely gay and a 'canon ship', everything about FF7R just reminds me of Third Birthday, which is to say, Nomura and Kitase have tried to recreate one of Sakaguchi's masterpieces for a modern audience before and it essentially led to the culling of the Parasite Eve franchise, make of that what you will.
Yea, FFVIIR essentially abandons the concept of a remake about halfway through - and especially by the end (on a faithful one at least); with the diversions and changes they make earlier in the game it's basically acting as a meta-commentary on the concept of remakes. And I can see how that can come across as pretentious or needless, and I think an good argument can definitely be made on false-advertising -and I think a good well-realized high budget remake can happen. But as to someone who was disillusioned to the concept of remakes, as "replacements' especially, I was completely down with what they were doing. I am completely down; it's not a remake, it's a re-visit a "new-experience". And I can really see how that can end up still just being a huge dissapointment
@@thatothertypeofstyrofoam4176 While I dont think the writing is good even if you ignore the context its in, i definitely think it would have been better for them to just do a full on meta sequel if thats what they wanted because Im kind of sick of remake culture as well. Main issue is that they wanted to have a big memorable twist by revealing the twist inside a supposed remake and I would argue that at the very least its improper use of the ip to tell a fruitless story but realistically it is more like false advertising on a massive scale. What they should have done is make an expanded remake that is faithful to the original game but expands and includes elements from the compilation, because something of that scope really would have been incredible. Then if they still wanted to do their meta spin off cringe they could have made that into their shitty mobile gacha instead of what theyre currently doing.
So well said. This subversion garbage is outta hand. A remake of such a beloved title like FF7 should absolutely keep the core story and just flesh out what wasn't able to be done w/ the medium at the time. Like greater worldbuilding and character background/development, more backstory. To 'remake' it as they have comes off as hubris that they know better than the OG Sakaguchi.
"nowadays we just call that a swish port" #SAVAGE
swish?
@@darky1677 ye the n0ntend0 swiish
@@cl8804 the nintendo swishi swishi swish
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
@@MonsterfromHell2543 you love it, you know you do
Hey Nasu, what song is playing at 13:36 ? Had to pause to ask lol I'm really enjoying the video my guy
Finally you're back 🎉
The truth is remakes are OUR obsession, not really the industry's--if we didn't buy them, they wouldn't keep making them.
I’m glad someone’s talking about remakes with such a level head and proper research. Really getting into the pros and cons of it all. For example talking about Nomura’s true impact on ff7 remake with sourced interviews shows me you know your stuff
just today i was wondering when you'll drop a new video and here it is
I just met nasu today, but now I would get angry if youtube missed notifiying me of his new videos
The current biggest problem with remakes is the idea of companies making their own games outdated in the process. This is most apparent with MGS Delta and the new Persona 3 remake. The Twin Snakes remade the first in a way that many didn't like, however it was still its own thing and the original was just as playable. However, rather than remaking Sons of Liberty, they decided on Snake Eater because it's more popular, thus making 2 the most outdated game in the series. Now if people want to get into the series, they'll be jumping from a 6th generation game to a 9th generation one, then back to a 7th generation one for Guns of the Patriots. Persona 3 is even worse. The "modern" Persona games have been milked drier than a Popeyes biscuit with no Sprite, however instead of going back and remaking, or even remastering, the original two games for a new audience, they're just going back to Persona 3. This, along with the re-release on PC and Xbox, will mean there will be four versions of Persona 3, none of which will be definitive because they lack content like the remake, graphics like Portable, or the option for a female character like FES. Don't forget how this will mean Persona 4 is now the most outdated of the three, and despite only getting a PC release a few years ago will probably be remade, making the multiple versions of Persona 5 the most outdated and 😵 It's a mess. How come Dino Crisis wasn't remade instead of Resident Evil 4?
Cant wait to rewatch this
Love the video and I’m also a huge fan of the original FFVII. I also finally got to play the remake last year after having it in my library for almost a year. I can’t wait for Rebirth next year.
Truly the definition of insanity
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
Far Cry 3 remake
i just wana say thanks for bringing light to the situation with Tetsuya Nomura being the new director of the remake. I personally was one of the people who bought to the idea that he was butchering the remake with his kingdom hearts history, but after watching this, I am starting to see that the remake is just the way it is because they wanted it to be that way
It’s perfectly fine to dislike the remake, just not a fan of false narratives
Great video as always. Really like what you talked about towards the end. The quality and perception of a game only stands true in the context of the time, industry, developers and consumers. Remakes don’t try to replace the original but recontextualises it for a new era. It’s the same reason games once hailed as classics simply aren’t good or playable anymore. Not because they haven’t aged well but because the factors that made them groundbreaking at the time have been expanded on much further only thanks to the original’s influence itself.
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES
another nasu banger just dropped
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥IIIIII HAAAAATE REEEEMAAAAAASTER I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
Bumble fuck micnobody is a perfect descriptor. You serve truly are a wordsmith.
Remake is better than low effort rerelease.
Cyberpunk with bugs ps4 > the last of us remastered PS5
I feel like this is because a lot of new content can is really difficult to get out the door. Like the wonder women game we haven’t heard anything from that game since it’s announcement
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
There's an announced wonder woman game? How long has it been announced?
I like your take on the remake especially with FF7R and also put out Nomura there on how he's always become the scapegoat for every shit SE does and also how he's actually the one who wanted the story in FF7 Remake to be as close to the og. He should def get all the praises for what they did in OG with killing Aerith and keeping other characters alive. You earned my sub.
Bro fuck all other series, I’m just waiting on my Sly Cooper remake
God I wish
As someone said, "FF7R was for everyone, it brings fanservice to the og players and mysteries to new players" and guess what, finishing the remake made me play the og, crisis core, and watched the movie
Do you think your experience with the OG was ruined by Remake?
@@NasuPrime actually nah, especially Aerith's death was already an open secret, heck even the playstore preview pics of FF7 showed cloud holding Aerith by the lake, still felt heavy at that part tho because of her bgm Still made me surprised that Yuffie actually took all of my materia when I went to Wutai with her And also, Remake did a great job remaking Fort Condor because holy fuq in the og it's too expensive to play
@@NasuPrime and let's talk about my boy Zack, thank god they give him a heroic last stand because I was in pure denial in CC thinking I could still save him by fighting longer
@@NasuPrime FF7R was the first game I played in the FF7 compilation. Since it only covered the Midgar section of FF7, I was still left in the dark about what happens later in the story. Since then I've played the Original FF7 and thoroughly enjoyed it.
@@NasuPrime i dislike how it become an action game..
I love the little jokes, memes and stuff thrown in this video like not being able to skip cutscenes at all in KH1, the “Re Counter” and Sephiroth being all flirty with Cloud was the funniest. As for remakes in general they can be hit or miss, Majora’s Mask 3D made some changes fans didn’t like, Hot Take coming here: Sonic 3D Blast on Saturn is arguably the best version since it has better visuals, new soundtrack and 3D Special Stages, then again you could argue Sonic Adventure 2 Battle on GameCube is great as well, and Sonic is not known for having good remakes and remasters either, see: Sonic Adventure DX, Colors Ultimate and Origins. Kirby has great remakes with Nightmare in Dreamland, Superstar Ultra and Return to Dreamland Deluxe, lastly we even got Metroid Prime Remastered and Advance Wars Reboot Camp which are both worth checking out.
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
Man, this channel is SO underrated.
I never got to experience a lot of the older games. So when friends that have tell me about them all i can really do is hope they do get remade or remastered. Like you said in the beginni g it's oretty much the obly way to experience some of them that isnt buying a new console or emulating(especially nintendo games). So tbh I'm more on the side of remasters. But I understand their detriment to the games industry in the long run. But again there really isnt any other ethical ir sensible way to experience them
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
FF7 Remake was absolutely necessary and I loved it. I think the resident evil games needed remakes too up until 4 because 4 holds up just fine. However mgs3? Really? I'd rather they just remaster it and bundle it with the other mgs games on ps2
When Bloodborne gets its remake in 2030 to sell the ps6 pro I hope the dating sim element goes hard
Great video and often you hit the nail on the head. I would like to add, however, that you mainly approach the value of remakes from the point of view of older gamers and/or gamers who already played the original. But i would also like to add the value of younger gamers. I have been holding of on a lot of classic games that are consistently mentioned as all time greats but that are older than 15 years old. Most of the time when i try those, i get disappointed and bored. The game play is to cluncky, stiff and often slow pased. And some of them look so outdated that they are completely immersion breaking. Here, a remake can offer a worthwhile solution
At 18:30 I talk about that audience of players
@@NasuPrime yes you do indeed mention that part of the audience, but i just emphasize the reasons why the younger/new audience will not go back, although, according to you, many people argue that the old games are superior. Here i like to specifically highlight the fact that the quality of those games are often clouded by nostalgia/should be put in historical context. Many old games are just "unplayable" for those kinds of peope, for the same reasons why some younger kids can't get into the original star wars movies despite them being very good movies especially at the time. I think this argument was not neciserally "lacking" from your video, but i do think it wasn't really highlighted and the main focus was on the "older" generation of gamers, which is understandable as you yourself belong amongst that group
the goat has returned to us with a new banger lesgo
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥IIIIII HAAAAATE REEEEMAAAAAASTER I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
I played both the originals and the remakes for RE4 and Dead Space and enjoyed them all over again over a decade later. The improved graphics and gameplay with a few narrative changes felt great. Im hoping Sucker Punch decides to remake Infamous 1 & 2. I also want a remake for the cult classic Psy-Ops.
I don't know. I really don't get the hype over either remake, they are not that much better than the originals, especially Dead Space. I'd rather get the NEXT game that had the same type of impact as RE4 had when it came out then play a tweaked version of the game I already played a million times. I don't think either remake is bad, but at the end of the day they are remakes. I would have zero issues if we also got great new games but we don't really. I'm less mad at Capcom because they actually release new RE games and they are pretty good (nothing like RE4 but still good efforts) but EA can go fuck straight the hell off, they haven't released an actual worthwhile game in forever. 2023 is a laughably overrated year in videogames, I get the majority of game players today are probably the ones that grew up with PS4 so they don't know any better, but for us old as fuck videogame fans the decline is as clear as day.
bro, your videos are pretty funny
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥IIIIII HAAAAATE REEEEMAAAAAASTER I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
Yo, have you seen Spiderverse 2 yet? Also great vid as always
I agree with everything said. There is one game I've wanted to play "legally" with DLC that is only available on PS3 because I bought it all back then. Now, the game's (and many other games, like NCAA Football 2014) DLC has been made unavailable to anyone who didn't buy WHEN the game was released. There's no reason we should HAVE TO buy a "remaster" or "remake," especially when that "new" version is only a cash grab. I could go on for hours about this, so I'll end with what I've said. Thank you for sharing this video!
Remakes in video games can be a boon. Often times older story based games were very limited in the avenues to express emotion. A remake can greatly improve those aspects. This also gives smaller studios the opportunity to build technical talent and pay the bills. That said, that is NOT why most remakes are made today. When a game is less than 20 years old, you don't need a remake, you need a port. Edit: you didn't have to come for my wig with the Mister Mosquito line.
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
@@MonsterfromHell2543go cry somewhere else
No, the remakes are garbage
This video is perfect because I was thinking lately how everyone trashes a certain remake I played. Well two of them. One of them I liked and the other was just [Ok]. These remakes are Yakuza Kiwami 2 and Resident Evil 3 Remake. Now for context I never played either or the original RE3 or Yak 2. So jumping into these games were supposed to be a new experience while I played plenty of the other classic games in their franchise, these are both games from these franchises I never touched...so what did I think of them. Well first let's talk about Resident Evil 3 Remake. This game was Okay to me. It wasn't a bad game per day but it felt so short lived. Like I legitimately told a friend I never finished RE3 remake and need to go back to finishing it. But to my surprise when I went to load an old save I went back to the last level and had new game + already unlocked. And then I remembered! "Holy shit...I did finish this game!" But the ending was so unmemorable and just outright not as good as RE2 remake. That I simply just didn't remember it. And upon me realizing how short the game actually was. I didn't mean to beat it so fast but I did. And thought I didn't. But let's talk about... Yakuza Kiwami 2. This game...is a game I love! So much so that it's in my top Yakuza games. right after 5 and 0. But I hear other people trashing it as a remake. But to me I didn't get that experience because again I never played the original. So to me this game felt perfect I mean absolutely perfect in almost every regard. Its just a game I can go back to and play but wait a second...what's the difference between the remake of Kiwami 2 and RE3. Why is it that I love one and hate the other. And I think the problem is, is that While Kiwami 2 might not be a GREAT remake. It's a GREAT game. Whole RE3 isn't either it's not a good Remake nor is it a particularly a great game either. Don't get me wrong it's not a bad game. I had still had fun with it. But my overall experience with RE3R was..."it was alright." So to me Remakes feel like they have a lot to live up to. You have to bring new fans who never played the original. But you also have to bring in old fans who loved the original. So when I look at this video it explains why Kiwami 2 was so divisive in the community. Kiwami 2 was simply a great game & hit all the spots that a game needs to be, to be good. While RE3remake didn't do either. So thanks for this!
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
I remember people ragging on Ready Player One for having little/no original designs for its pop culture character avatars. The critics were like, "Did nothing NEW ever come out between 2018 and 2038??" Little did they know, the prophecy would come full circle.
Ready Player One feels like a fever dream. I forget that's a real movie
I blame the gamers for this since we are the ones that keep on buying all these re releases. Also I see so many gamers asking and begging for ports or remakes of old games, I guess that tells you how bad most modern games are then. Personally I want new games or sequels, but I'm also guilty of buying a port or remake as well since it can be easy to missed out on a game 10-30 years ago.
I'm personally very happy with the state of remakes I hope it continues obviously I still want a new Innovative games but it's good to preserve some Classics for New Generation who never played them. All the changes you like or dislike or subjective. Different people to go to like them for there own reasons
the idea a remake doesn't replace the og I feel is lost on people because of movies and media being harder to keep over time, we don't have libraries and museums for games the way we do for books and history, so people feel that when something new and shiny comes out its replacing the old, when to me you can't replace art simply because once its made that's its version, there are versions of games I like more as remakes like a lot of Pokemon remakes but they don't replace the experience of the OG good or bad
this, new ones DO replace the original in people especially in group bias - why place the old when new shiney version is right there - shows the issue of the gaming industry, nothing lasts like other mediums (books, movies, comics, tv shows) all have better safety nets than gaming does people always say it doesn't matter cause they are APATHETIC to the issue
@@marcusclark1339 remasters are usually made to replace the old because they're essentially Updates with a price tag, while Remakes people end up thinking are the same because new and shiny but remakes aren't meant to replace but stand aside, hense different events and not being 1 to 1, a one to one remake to me is a remaster because its purpose is to just replace the old like Last of us part 1
Good video, but I don't understand the expshare hate when you can turn it off. At least you could when I played
Great video
Uhm, part of what you were talking about the MESS that is the FF7 Remake reminded me of the Fullmetal Alchemist 2003/Brotherhood situation. Brotherhood's 1° season is a shorten version of the season the 2003 anime covered which were loyal to the manga. Cuz that, Brotherhood's season 1 is kinda rushed to the point many of its emotional points don't worke very well for a new audience. A friend of mine decided to ignore the 2003 anime and watch straight Brotherhood, and he didn't understand why everybody was saying the girl & dog and Maes were such emotional points to the story. Why? Cuz in Brotherhood, those were very rushed, almost like the studio (which was the same one who did the 2003 anime) expected its audience to already know those stories. IMO, that was a horrible decision by the studio
It's almost an artifact of the original series that the dog and Maes have that much of an impact in the story as very quickly they ran out of Manga to adapt so everything that was an adaptation had more room to breathe. Brotherhood more closely alots time to those story beats as they are represented in the Manga. They aren't exactly insignificant, but they don't get near the same emphasis as the original animation gives them. FMA was just a rare case of an anime that had competent filler writers more than anything! 😅
coming from someone who watched the Brotherhood first, I still got emotional with the story of Maes, girl & dog. While watching it, I never get the sense that they are rushed. If anything, maybe the problem lies with constantly comparing two works side by side while watching it. You can't enjoy 1 thing to fullest if you constantly look at the other side
ayo hunterxhunter had the same issue with the first seasons being rushed because the old anime exists and they really wanted to adapt the new content.
Yeah pretty sure Brotherhood was made with the expectation that you've already watched FMA 2003. The first 10-20ish eps, everything up until Hughes... yknow, was done much better in 2003. But in Brotherhood they speedrun through that to get to the new stuff. Ideal watch order imo is those first several eps from 2003 and then jump to brotherhood
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
what's the music at 3:23?
The best solution to the PC replacement problem is to delist the original version but package it in with the remaster or remake as a free download. That'd solve the problem of us losing access to the original version and it'd solve the problem of some people buying that instead of the shiny new more expensive version.
your vids go so hard bro. a GOOD remake is like when a manga gets a fire anime adaptation and you can smile as you catch all the tiny details and seeing things that weren't fleshed out before now fully realized. that'll be $70 please
Oshi no Ko in a nutshell
good comparison, but dang, some mangas go so hard that anime just cant compete, like akira.
That's why I don't play remakes. But I would like a rdr 1 remake or a Manhunt remake.
It's Rumors about Rocstar working with RDR 1 Remake
Id rather have RDR3 but RDR1 remake is needed with major flaws in the first game.
If a company delists a game to force people to buy the remaster, especially when the remaster is actually inferior, that's when it's morally correct to pirate.
>acting as if pirating and emulating a 15-30 year old game is impossible and/or immoral
Fire, as per usual.
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
The REAL problem with the FF7 Remake is that the first disc was exclusively in Midgar. Keep in mind this is a 3 part game. So hyper realism at the cost of the story and gameplay to be cut from the original. Don't expect open world in part 2...
This aged poorly
ouch…
I can't even be mad because honestly RE4R, 2R, 3R and Dead Space 23 have been my favorite games I've played this year and got me into a whole new genre for me.
Dead Space got me giving that genre another shot, so likewise
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
Having watched all your videos, I did not see this take coming. Then again, I was probably projecting. I'm 37 and played the original when I was 14 or so. I've wanted a remake ever since Sony teased us with that PS3 tech demo, but I wanted it to be more like a remaster. I was OK with all kinds of updates to gameplay, but touching the story was taboo. When I played the demo section of the remake I was ecstatic. _That_ was everything I wanted. Especially the boss fight. But then ghosts started showing up. And Cloud's visions were _advent childreny._ Then Sephiroth started showing up out of turn and talking as if he'd already lived through the original. Hell, he almost seemed aware of our reality and his popularity here. Aerith too. The remake feels worse than a sidequel. It feels like a fanfic. "… and they changed fate and _everyone_ lived! Even Zack!" When I was a kid, the internet (i.e., GameFAQs) was full of fake ways to resurrect Aerith … because a main character dying for good in a JRPG blew our little teenage minds. Yes, it made no sense how Sephiroth appeared outta the blue like villain ex machina and skewered Aerith, but I'll be damned if it wasn't effective! If they'd followed the original story, I'd have even forgiven the boring slow walking sections and the lame ass quests involving chores 😩
Lmao you don't need me to tell you that the nostalgia is gonna be hitting a lot harder for you than for me. Touching the story is always gonna be polarizing. There's no way around that
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥IIIIII HAAAAATE REEEEMAAAAAASTER I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
16:02 haha I remember that LONG stairway climb but I dont remember Tifa saying “retard” XD.
It’s important to remember that while yes, many remasters and remakes are being released and worked on, more games are being made than ever, which means that we are still getting as many new games as we used to, even if it doesn’t feel like it. Although I do feel like it would be better to re release older games on new hardware, especially when a remake isn’t necessary, which would allow new fans to enjoy the old game, and new games to be focused on, rather than commuting to making a complete reimagined version of said game.
I think that remasters/remakes should be done only when it's necessary. The Last of Us Part 1 is the perfect example of a unnecessary remake/remaster. There hasn't any need for that game and yet they still did it... But the recent remakes of RE games are a great example for doing remakes/remasters at the right time: with the RE4 remake ending, I'll be happy to see RE5 and RE6 remade, with certainty that they'll fix the mistakes of the OG versions.
@@matheusbarbosa999 I very much agree with you on that. Remakes should be done when necessary to update an older game to be more accessible for the current gaming market/bring it up to modern standards. Remasters should be done simply to make older games available on current hardware. The Resident evil remakes are a perfect example of remakes being necessary to make a game accessible for new and old fans alike, exactly how a remake should be.
The 2016 ratchet and clank game is probably one of the best examples how to drastically do a poor remake of an original title
Which is funny cause it was the best selling game in the companies history until spider man ps4
@@rexthewolf3149 what the fuck
18:45 fucking thank you. I know it’s a late response but many folks think that people 2 decades in the future want indulgence in old media. While there is great merit in that, companies that have the material rarely put in the effort to make it either accessible or known and the fans do a god awful job encouraging newcomers to check out previous material
I’m so happy you did this video and I personally love the Nintendo Switch and PlayStation 4 Pro. And was shocked (but not by much) that a brand new Console for the PlayStation 4 PRO. Was still going for $400 ?!?!? And Then the PSVR was still going for $400 new ?????? WTF!? The going price for a new PS5 and PSVR2 ( which still has a cord) is still around $500 with no reverse capabilities for either one?!?!!!! Dose this piss a few people off besides me? And no games?!!!!!!!
And we just keep eating it up like dam I would love for a sly cooper remaster, but man nobody is creative nowadays. Amazeing vid dude
Maybe watch it first
@@fregatopolitis I know im just commenting on the title, I love this guys content.
Fuck that how about a Conkers Bad Fur Day remake.
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH
Honestly I think the 7 remake played well but having an entire game taking place in Midgar made the filler so apparent
Enjoyed this.
The creativity on the title is hilarious😂
GOD I HATE REMAKE GAMES I HATE REMASTERED GAMES I HATE RELEASED GAMES I HATE THEM SO MUCH I HATE THEM SO MUCH