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China has great skylines because we choose to buy their toys and sell our money to them. If that were to reverse or the West stopped buying from them, they would no longer be in their position. You cannot sell to yourself. If you don't believe it, have your wife make 1 million of cookies per day and be her only customer and buy them all every day. You will discover, your family has nothing except way too many cookies because it still cost money to buy the ingredients for 1 million cookies.
If they want to peacefully get Taiwan Island, let the country move it's Chip Factories out. Carve land out in USA and Mars and the Moon for Taiwan, let the people move to the new country who want to. Problem solved. However, if they want show they have the biggest military to take over the world, then you have to figure that out.
Who built china ? USA Bankers. They moved all factories to china. They provided all technologies. They also gave money by buying all chinese made products. China is flush with money and built train bridges roads and cities in no time. Why no one blaming zionist bankers? They want to destroy america to make china as only super power. No one dare to mention this. Their goal as far as i see is Population reduction using china. BRI is scheme every country industry will be destroyed. Everyone will depend on chinese products. Without local industries every one will be kidnapped victim who survived on sperm of kidnapper. its just that They will issue order to china dont supply any more goods to this country as they dont follow LGBQT+ laws. Bam that country is ruined .. no food ..famine and pandemic Rinse and repeat for Global south countries. Anyone with common sense and vision see where the Power is moving towards.
Elon musk is simply superior conman
Musk and everyone else is getting part of their false info from the CCP Communist AI Bot. He drank the false cool aid about China not being expansionist. If you compare historic China with present day, you will see that China is almost double it's historic size because it has 3 huge countries that are not Chinas. China likes to use the strategy where they put a turtle in a pot of water and slowly boil it so that the turtle doesn't know it's dead. I bet according to the Communist AI, history will be rewritten to say Mongolia, Tibet & Xinjiang were always part of China. BTW, you can already see the news feed saying the American Indians have Chinese DNA, so that means... go back to Europe, North America belongs to China!
It's not the American people vs the Chinese people, or anyone else. It's a small group of very wealthy and powerful people around the world, not fighting with each other, just manipulating the information, controlling access to resources, and hoarding all the strategically ideal and functional land. This is really what drives most of these military endeavors and no country has more bases around the world than the US, along with being the worlds largest arms dealer. It seems our biggest disfunction within the states is that no matter what our local needs may be, our dependance on this narrative of defending our freedoms and our way life through violence and terrorism must come first, and with little to no oversight. If we do not pay our taxes we go to prison but if these people misuse our taxes they get rewarded and there is really nothing we can do about it. Once I understood how the Federal Reserve works that money can, and will only flow, where they want it to.
Which is why voting democrat for higher taxes is dumb.
When corporations became people too there became no such thing as a democrat or a republican. @@yayano8415
@@yayano8415which is why voting at all is pointless. It’s just a mechanism to make us feel good.
It seems like the more time that goes on the less control that the common man has. Was slavery truly abolished or improved and expanded.
@@wildregen exactly. its the illusion of choice. whats worse than being in jail or in a cage. being in jail and in a cage but u dont even know it.
Really appreciate the topic focused cuts from a big interview, the whole piece can be hard to watch but 15 minutes at a time and i end up catching most of it anyway
I don’t know man, it seems like the who clip is just Elon bitching that Americans aren’t mindless drones that obey the ruling class without question like the Chinese people are.
Low attention span
Bruh attention spans can’t be this cooked already 😭
They were that cooked ages ago. To be fair it IS a straight up information overload. Ive watched the full interview. @@GoldKunai
@@frostysixyou don’t watch a podcast by itself. Only psychopaths do that. Play it in the background while you’re driving, doing dishes, chores etc
Completely agree, During my two trips to China, I had the opportunity to explore both urban and rural areas. Everywhere I went, I witnessed remarkable beauty and advancements.
I saw people shitting in the streets.
@@ivonnatrolue6747 Happens in the middle of what are supposed to be the most advanced cities in the USA too, not to mention all the tent cities of drug addicted and mentally broken homeless people.
@@ivonnatrolue6747😂😂😂😂
compare it to US cities on the decline and your government is more interested in foreign power .
@@ivonnatrolue6747there’s people shitting in the streets here…
Thanks for posting these great clips about important topics. ❤🙏
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China doesn’t park warships off the coast of the US.. but the US parks it’s ships off the coast of China.. I don’t know much but that seems to me like the US is being a lot more aggressive
US has so many bases around the world while their one million people are homeless. But they still got money to fund wars.
You're right, China instead parks its boats outside of smaller Asian countries coasts and constantly expands its borders with everyone around them.
China has no allies thats why they cant park their ships anywhere. Meanwhile they bully all their neighbours claiming vague ocean territory within eec of other countries. If china were actually friendly to their neighbours, they all wouldnt be begging the US to protect them.
If only Americans would wake up and realize the government is out to get us, we run a corrupt empire.
The US doesn't enslave 11 million Uyghurs and put them through reeducation camps either...
Used to live in China (I'm American, moved back to the US about 7 years ago). Have lots of Chinese friends. They see things relatively the similarly to Americans, in my experience. They don't hate Americans -- they do think our govt. is wrong just like we think theirs is wrong -- but the younger generation especially actually thinks Americans are sort of "cool" ... Like they listen to stuff like Britney Spears, watch NBA, wear American-style fashion, watch American movies (Marvel is really big)... It's interesting the youth culture of China is very similar to the American pop culture, but from 10 years ago. It's like they are just 10 years behind us pop culture wise. Also, you factor in that the US-China economic relationship is. the largest the world has ever known. Neither country will jeopardize that, the relationship would have to get a lot worse than it is now.. A lot worse. Right now it is in both countries' best interest to get along and it's really not a question. It's pretty clear. I just bring this up because we so often hear about all the negative US-China stuff -- all the stuff that points to impending war and gets people scared -- but we seldom hear about all the positive things about the US-China relationship, and the indicators that there will not be war. You have to weigh both of these things together, weigh the + and - ... I think war with China is much much further off than people would suggest.
Let’s hope so 🤞
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There’s a very small group of people who desire conflict and not a single one from that group ever engages in the conflict directly
All this stuff is cool to think about until you remember the older generations are still in power & the older generations of China want Taiwan.
He’s got an awesome memory. He must remember everything he reads and hears. Imagine the power of that!
I can't even remember the name of the movie I'm trying to explain to someone because I enjoyed it! LOL. I'm like an ape... I can't remember the movie, or the actors' names, or the plot... but I really enjoyed it and you should check it out!
It can be annoying. Especially when everyone who knows you have a photographic memory keeps asking you questions like you're Siri or something. 🤨
me too@@TommyBlanton
now imagine that while being stoned af all day ... where am I btw? @@TommyBlanton
The speech impediment is very strange. His r’s in some sentences are totally sharp and normal and then randomly with the repeating the same words and also when they are the last letter in a sentence he pronounces it as a w. It resembles a 5/6 year old child, but coming from grown man who is a genius
I disagree with Elon Musk, because the US has overthrown so many govts in countries all over the world.
"We can coup whoever we want" ------ Elon Musk
Our company's China boss put it the best: every Chinese family still remembers how it is to be hungry, since it's only been 35 years that they've had enough to eat. That's why they keep working so hard every day. In the west people have gotten so used to their standards of living they've become complacent. Now the Chinese want the same and when they do, the same will happen there, cycle repeats.
Yeah America is a stock filled slopfest of gluttony if you can look at it objectively. America is in a fight for it’s life and most haven’t a clue yet. I also hope to be proven wrong but I doubt it.
😂 35 years is a bit of a stretch more like 75 years ago
No to everything you wrote, Anerica has many millions of immigrants who are very hungry and more “americans” than actual citizens, china needs to just take xi out and let taiwan be
@@inception72735 years ago many where still terribly impoverished. My moms happiest childhood memory in the 80s was being gifted lavishly with a bowl of noodles. Something that no one could afford.
@inception727 no they were still dirt poor in the 90s despite their massive gdp growth. More specifically the citizens were the ones who were dirt poor
A cool thing was relayed in "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"...when Alaric the Goth conquered the Greeks his Generals asked whether all the books should be burned...but Alaric was quoted as saying, "No, as long as they are reading and writing books they won't be preparing for battle." That adds dimensions to the phrase, "If you want peace prepare for war." And, similar to libraries being destroyed around the world like the the Emporer Chin's destruction, the destruction of the Inca and Aztec string and codex's, Al Saladin's final destruction of the Library of Alexandria...the Greeks were lucky their books were not destroyed.
You can’t take Elons word for any of what he says. The Greeks didn’t have a written history for centuries but they remember entire plays. Powerful minds. Intelligence in a different manner. So it’s not a simple concept, but it is a loss of intricate expressions of our humanity. These were all huge losses but much of it was lost to mercenary violence. And mercenary groups are making a comeback. Billionaires like Elon having their own private armies is the last thing we need. Wagner trained the Hamas troops involved in Oct. 7th. It’s a force of destabilization and that’s only ever brought instability to the state/ ruler in the territory they operate. Africa has been in constant wars since Britain left because of this. Opportunistic mercenary groups. 🫴
@@trvst5938 Interesting insight. People did rely on memory and rote a lot before written languages...songs and chants included. Old Greek does stretch back a ways though...part of the Bible's New Testament was written in it. John Adam's learned it and said it was the purest language he knew.
@@trvst5938 Well he comes from africa where nothing was written down and so therefore there is no written history.
@@trvst5938 Homer, whoever they were, wrote the epics Iliad and Odyssey around 800 BC. Socrates, Plato and Aristotle wrote a bunch on philosophy between 500 and 323 BC. So Elon is right saying that the Greeks wrote a lot, especially compared to other ancient civilizations
@@trvst5938Africa always were in wars South Africa zimbabwe Kenya Nigeria Egypt are the best African countries for education GDP per capita The french and German not so good African people sold their own people to Arabs first
Great podcast guys! But lets dial down the speach volume & pacing just a tiny bit more. The sponsors are interested, but they're saying this is at 'Calm app' level & theyre asking for the smooth auditory Ambian theyre used to hearing @ NPR. Its almost there tho boys 👌
Most people will want to be left alone. The idea that your enemy will seek revenge creates a cycle of violence. The fear of retribution prevents acts of kindness.
People love criticizing China while in line at Walmart
I’d go a step further and say people like criticizing China in their homeless tents. Even homeless, alcoholic, drug addicts know dictatorial racist governments are garbage. We don’t even need to go up the smart chain to people in line at Walmart. The dredges of society know China sucks. But, lululul you’re clever right cause people at Walmart are dumbz0rs lul. Chinese people know China sucks. They move en masse to America, Canada, Europe, Australia etc. Chinese people are even moving in large groups to Taiwan. Anywhere but China. See ya on that line, most likely freely, and not in China.
The government needs an enemy to keep the low intelligence, high energy Americans busy.
Elon won't dare criticize China
I never shop there.
@@RockBrentwood Musk totally danced around Lex's question about China. It was quite humourous and very telling.
My grandpa served for over 30 years in WW2, Korea and Vietnam. He was in the Berlin airlift as well for over 6 months. My favorite/proudest ribbon he has
Respect to your grandpa dude, those Americans saved us Brits, when I was a kid we had the oldest UK poppy seller come to our school, he was a 94 year old Welshman who survived Aushwitz, he played as a Goalie in the camps British football team and explained when they were marched from Aushwitz towards the east in the snow becuase they had word the allies were closing in, he said they were all huddled into a barn together when at 2am they heard shouting and shooting, thinking they were going to get shot they cowered in the group praying and hoping the Germans didnt just lose their minds and want to kill them, when the barn door opened, a man shouted in "This is the American army, come out with your hands up" the moment the GI saw Roy the welshman he was stick and bone and couldnt feel his legs due to the cold, he used his last ounce of energy to hug the American GI and told him "God bless you for not giving up on us, I thought we were dead" the story still makes me feel a certain way and thats why Ill always back my American brothers and sisters to the end! Came to the other end of the world and survived hell all to help an old friend, we wont ever forget that. Semper Fi to you and your grandfather!
@@screamingatthesky1878Incredible story. God bless you and your family.
Mad respect. “We fought the wrong enemy” - General Patton
Cap rap
@@wmduavfollow your leader
We need politicians who are able to extend an olive branch in this world. People willing to help others, sit and listen, collaborate and work towards a human goal to progress human knowledge and the global society.
He really understands China.
You suck off someone enough, you start to really understand him.
Maybe, but he didn't answer Lex's question. It was quite a dance he did.
China owns him
I like that elon's not afraid to ask questions or further a conversation about stuff he doesn't know.
Elon knows all about China.. so he won't say chit and bow
He sure likes talking about things he doesn't know.... he kind of embarrassed himself here.
@@Chris-es3wf who cares that's how you learn by making an ass out of yourself most of the time. I'm not afraid to look stupid if the knowledge is profiting me.
@@shiroi5672fuck China anyways. If they want to lose billions of dollars over words, that's their problem..
@@shiroi5672Man lives in a factory and has 12 children living in his company town made of Lego bricks. I’d say he’s adopted a few of their traits.
“When goods and services don’t cross borders, soldiers will.“ An apocryphal quote, often attributed to Bastiat (but apparently better attributed to Otto T. Mallery). Regardless of the sourcing, the sentiment is probably correct. Going to war with your customer or your supplier carries the disincentive of interfering with your own flourishing. It may not be sufficient enough to prevent other reasons for war, but it certainly works against it. The best way for America and China to avoid war with each other is to continue trading with each other.
Here's the issue. The trade between the west and China has been to the detriment of the U.S. save the portfolios of certain elites. Engagement with China has been a failure.
That's not always the case. As a capitalist I like the sentiment. The UK and Germany where very economically integrated before WWI. It was for not.
@@grahamshepard3692 Agreed. And though it may not have been sufficient enough to prevent other reasons for that war, it’s still an incentive for peace.
@@VeniVidiVid also the US and Germany after WWI. US loaned out funds to cover French reparations, GM and Ford had German Divisions, Standard Oil stayed long enough to almost be tried for treason.
Well that's ending. The US's biggest trading partners are now it's neighbors, Canada and Mexico. No longer China, and the trend is firmly away from China and back to US and it's trading partners/allies. Democrats and Republicans both compete to show who can be more anti-China. China's wolf warrior policy has cost them dearly.
I am thrilled by this Interview. I am German and I did Not expect Elon Musk to have that much historical Insight into European history. I am mainly thrilled by his Christian concept of "conspicuous acts of kindness". This ist the way forward. Many thanks
Acts of kindness wasn't invented by Christians
@@g0inturbo I did not want to say that. I only meant that it is Christian teaching at its core. Also other religions advocate "acts of kindness" even though one may argue that they are not so central.
@@tillschoeber4126 100% agree 👍
He’s a European.
@@OzayCardenas no, South-African
That was an excellent segment, very digestive
I know Elon has a lot of haters I mean every one does but he is one of the more fascinating people to watch. Doesn't matter who is hosting him I always enjoy his knowledge and honesty
He has a lot more admirers than haters. The more amplified the hate is on legacy media the more admired an individual actually is. Look at George Soros, for example. You rarely ever hear his name mentioned in the media, but I don't know anyone who doesn't hate him.
He's not really American that's why he can have a more unbiased view about geopolitics. Also, Taiwanese is Chinese not American why can't Americans grasp this simple fact.
@phyybalance2601 China is just a kingdom that conquered multiple small kingdoms and united them as one. If one island doesn't with a different government doesn't consider itself as China what can China do? Idk anyone that says Taiwan is American. They are their own country and a huge ally to US.
99.999% people still doesn't know the truth ethnicity of the Chinese people (Lao descendants) after all this time.
@@InsiderAI8you’re full of s***. Period.
Glad I subscribed. These are great.
Strang time when a engineer is like a rock star! I'm glad im here to witness it. And thank god for long form interviews.
Great interview 👍
A- culture difference B- unrealistic expectations C- perception D- all of the above
The British and the USA wanted Germany to be treated easier after the end of WW1 but the French wanted to stop the Germans from attacking again especially after they were made pay war indemnities after the 1870 war which the french third republic had to pay to the German Empire to get land back .
It wasn’t out of some sort of kindness. American policy after WW2 was very clear: keep Germany down, Russia out and America in. It’s still working out very well for America. The situation that the Americans doctored in Russia has made sure that Europe will remain a backwater for the coming century and that America will be the boss. Well played, Americans.
@@mithrandirthegrey7644 Europe got addicted to Putins oil .a self inflicted wound depending on a Mafia gangster for you energy .
Hitler wanted to negotiate. It was the war mongering Churchill who refused… if that fat idiot had been on the front line I’m sure he wouldn't have been so quick to refuse… instead of sending millions of german and english young people to their deaths… fat old farts killing young people is never a good look…
Europe will remain a backwater because of EU immigration policies.
Britain banned Germany from developing airplanes. Britain and USA were building up airports while German engineers had to flee the country to keep up with new technologies. Britain did it purely to gain competitive economic advantage against the superior industrial base in Germany.
I mean. I don't know. Dude is super intelligent and smart, no doubt. But a) why are we asking a rich entrepreneur about war with China and b) why do we think he understands China? Ok, he does business there, probably knows how to do business with them. But that's it. As someone who is a sinologist, lived and worked in China and Taiwan - what the hell? Dude read a couple of things about Chinese history and history in general and now just keeps saying those as an answer to any question. I am puzzled.
I was watching a program on the liberation of the concentration camps in WW2. A lady survivor said they was pleased to hear it was British soldiers that freed them because they knew if it was Russian they were going to be rapped again.
The insight is eye-opening. and thank you for uploading this clip.
Elo talking about how U.S didn’t take over the world🤔 yea they didn’t but how about putting U.S corporations in control of a lot of countries natural resources in Africa for example. And in many proxy wars just to get oil/natural gas. The whole war term changed after WW2 to be far more multifaceted
Being a government of the people, arrogance need not be a factor in the international relations.
I'm constantly impressed by Elon Musk. Obviously as a businessman, engineer and a future visonary he is without equal, but to hear his very informed views on world history is amazing. Such a strak contrast to our political class.......
He does not know history in depth
Lmao
Despite how hostile people are towards him, he never gives off much arrogance and he is RELATIVELY quite intelligent. People just don't like his idolization or are jealous or something. Anyways he's a bit off on current economic data. China is about to lose most of it's trade to Mexico and has already lost an enormous amount. Mexico is now the USAs, as of this moment, the largest trading partner with the US. A big part of that shift happened throughout covid due to supply chain issues which absolutely reamed all kinds of businesses here. If you think the US didn't handle covid well you should have seen China. Additionally there are still plenty of poor countries ready to be industrialized while China is hitting heavy diminishing returns already. Mexico and south America are MUCHHHHH closer and much better potential trading partners. It will only shift more and more towards neighborly trade. Not to say China is going to collapse or anything(they might but for different reasons), but they've grown so much from the US and still as the US continues to grow, but that's about to be cut off largely. And the US will continue to grow around it's usual pace while Mexico picks up the benefits. Not to mention the semi-conductor facilities that are being set up here to self sustain, possible middle eastern peace and continued trade deals with the US for oil, the continued self sustainability of other countries. You gotta understand that China is so wealthy not because they do anything particularly well, they're just the factory of the world. Actually most of what they make is absolute garbage compared to alternatives found elsewhere in the world, completed products that is, but they are efficient and have laxed labor laws(dont forget about the muslim slaves!). But that's been changing, they've gotten comfortable with the worlds reliance and have so much money tied up that prices with them... well they went up to as did everyones during and after covid. And that supply chain issues was catastrophic so now places like the US have found out "omg, it's actually much better if we help set up Mexico to take on many of the roles of China", which is smart, and safe. So when they stop growing from feeding off primarily the growth of everyone else, they don't have anything particularly great, for some reason, and there's probably some really long and interesting theories on this, can't seem to do it. They make fast, efficient polished turds, and replicas lol. I don't know what would have to change to change that, but I get the feeling it's something very fundamental with their culture, all the way down to some deep parts of their culture. Which means it probably won't ever change, which means they'll plateau off here before too long after they fall to a more organic state. Nothing wrong with that, it's not the financial world domination they so eagerly desire and they won't like it, but they'll still be one of the largest and most powerful countries on this planet. I suspect the US will continue as it is and mostly will continue being for a long time. I'm interesting to hear other peoples thoughts on countries that have some hidden potential though.
Musk isn't an engineer. He has no degree in it. He just proclaim himself as one because he reads about it online. If you believe that, then you should hire me to be your doctor since I read about medical online.
No, most elites in the political class also know it very well, but they don't tell it, or even conceal it for political purposes.
Elon is like a history teacher without trying
I’m from Britain but when he talks about how America could have taken over the world and he’s right. You didn’t and you did rebuild it def fills me with pride it can’t be forgotten 🇬🇧 🇺🇸 ✊
@@616CC agreed & now it's being orchestrated INVADED what gov forgets is 🇺🇲 has the most guns and ammo known to man the current administration are Marxist their enemy - the American people! We are ready 💯
Nah is doesn't know nothing tbh, once you do your own research you will find out
My great grand father at some point during the ending phase of WWII was in a bridge reconstructing platoon and it looked like they were going to become POWs. They had calculated that if they will have moved further south through or around the Alps a bit they could have ended up as american prisoners of war as opposed to russian pows. Fortunately for them the war had ended but they had been on the move out of the occupation zone of the soviet army...
Well, they had probably committed atrocities in Russia that Americans would have also brutally sought revenge for were it done in our country.
It should be remembered that the Germans refused to afford Soviets the Geneva Convention. Russia had signed it but Soviets were technically not signatories at the time, even though they thought it applied to them. So Soviet POWs were executed on the spot, used as forced labour where they were worked to death, or were sent to concentration camps. Thus ~3.5M Soviet soldiers were killed cruelly by the Axis forces, thus indeed you did not want to be captured by the Soviets.
They listened to the propaganda. You probably think Ukraine is winning now
@@tomw6947 I'm aware of allied forces raping soldiers. US forces were known for even raping French women along the way. Soviets statistically were the worst, US were also known to be very bad but not as bad as Soviets, and as a Brit our troops raped but were known to be much better than Soviets or Americans.
@@tomw6947 stop lying. America, by the way, is still occupying its vassals and has hooked the whole world on its dollar as a drug...
There, Elon said it. Although it's true America can invade any country after WWII, but colonial conquering "uncivilized continents" Australia, American Continent, Africa is unlikely. There was a US-China war, the Korean War, that ended along 38th parallel to this date. Taiwan is a must to China because that's the old China's government that fled there.
For the past few decades, US only fought with flip flop soldiers, arm only with AK and RPG, and still cried baby with PTSD, imagine war with China, missiles launched hundreds of miles away, bees swarm drones attack.....😅😂🤣
@@chokwoo5720but that's the sort of war the US army is designed to fight. Not long drawn out insurgencies.
@@JT-sr2plBased on your logic, US is preparing for big war😅😂, so should avoid being drag into small battle, remember Fullujah, 15000 US force with full aerial and space support, against 3000 fighters, still suffered 700 casualties, and 1000+ fighters escaped, while US still suffered from PTSD Fullujah, what a bunch of wimps 🐣🐣🐣😅😂🤣
@@chokwoo5720 Isn't this the absurd logic of wanting to win but not wanting to pay the corresponding price?
no he's wrong, USSR would've gone to war with USA had the US started colonialism, colonizing africa for example would've been costly and difficult logistically, much less another superpower going to war with you. despite US's immense wealth and power, she could not have afforded that.
War history is the key to understand a lot of things.....ultima ratio...gaius julius....for me the best....he saw it also coming
Things are very simple. Big bubbles colliding will produce less violent but more movement, small bubbles collisions are more violent and they become at peace quicker.
“Hardly a battle I haven’t read about” 🤣🤣🤣
I can listen to these two together every day.
And listen to Elon the biggest idiot there is ?
With no politics involved, strictly survival mode, America would dog walk every Country on Earth.
Thanks for your love care and support, it's my pleasure talking to you here. Where are you from..........
So....and i grew up in bavaria in the 70s and 80s and usa were always a bright star..and they will stay if wisdom takes over...for me as german the liberty lady is the greatest star....and the flame of freedom you brought to us isn't forgotten...
Reminds me of Brian Regan's humor: "In 142 A.D., Wei Boyang of China invented gun power. One thing led to another, and in 1945, America dropped two atomic bombs on the sovereign nation of Japan."
Sovereign nation? Think the small and kind of important part omitted was "evil sadistic empire that raped, killed, pillage, and terrorized most of Asia".
China did invent gunpowder. But because of their internal fights they didn't get to use/improve it much. Whereas, Britain ruled the world with the same gunpowder.
@@mighty-roman it's much more nuanced than that, i'd argue that they had gained the status of being an overseas empire with multiple factors, being lucky in it's battles, having invested in its navy immensely, prioritized colonisation to secure it's resources, having reliable allies and continually improving its military strategy.
@@mighty-romanthat's completely wrong. Have you seen the insane gunpowder weaponry from 700-1400? They had MLRS, multi stage rockets, grenades, shotgun spears and etc. They didn't move to bigger rifle because of the way warfare was conducted. China mostly fought nomads where guns were not suitable on each other where armor (iron pagoda armor) and city walls were impervious to guns and cannons (at their core, their walls were stamped dirt making them incredibly strong). In Europe, warfare were stagnant sieges and castle walls really pale in comparison to Chinese walls.
@@mighty-roman Gun tech improved over time and it took constant war from neighbors for Brits to be so united and eventually Napoleon for Europe to be united enough to collaborate on dominating the world. So in the past if there was no outside threat humans would forge an inward one, and the definition of outside would change.
Elon is surprisingly knowledgeable about China.
He worked with the Chinese
He has a big tesla manufacturing plant in china
I suppose he read the history of all major and significant world events
He went to china do business with the chinese unlike 90% of internet commenters who haven't been to china and yet hated the country. Bunch of sheeps.
Because Americans are surprisingly ignorant about China
No body can stop what’s coming nor can anyone save us
Great subject, and good answers from Elon. I do agree with him and I also think that its brave to say these things when he is american, and from his position because he definitely gets some shit from this too. But I do agree with his points on China.
It’s incredible, how well Elon knows history from Greek empire to china’s three kingdom period and combined them together.
Everyone should know it, rinse and repeat.
Entrepreneurial mind
He is not regular American 🤣
@@stefanomaurino8201He's African American.
china is the future... with much love for china from cuba!
Shying from conflict is also the surest way to a bigger one down the line
That’s how losers think
This is how you become enslaved
So do you think we're having problems with AI as information AI as intelligence or do you think we're losing to informal conference rotations or Confederate responses to federal from the past or masonry from the past to present not fully being aware of where things are and how to layer stuff
Great interview...
Very fascinating and eye opening interview. Thanks Lex
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If you find this fascinating and eye opening you are either very young or stupid.
Eye opening about Chinese, come on
This conversation provided no new information smh
@@kingiam9271 it did
Elon never said he favors China he is simply stating a fact about what China plans to do with Taiwan and the west has to decide how far its willing to go to counter China
The West needs to go only this far: don't invade Taiwan. If Taiwanese people think they're part of China, they'll join. Spoiler alert: they don't. They have a vibrant democracy, and a thriving economy. Not one person I've ever met from Taiwan (I lived there for years) wants the Communists to rule them. The communists have never--and hopefully will never--rule the island. There's too much at stake for Taiwanese people and for the world. China's also a paper tiger, IMO.
His billions he has tied up in precious metals from China, and the contracts his company holds with China don’t give you pause?
Elon won’t say anything interesting about China until they seize his business operations or he pulls out
@@benc2972 they do give me pause. He’s very cautious when talking about the Saudi, Chinese, or Russian governments, but very vocal about governments in the West, and censorship here. Yes, it’s safer, but it’s at odds with his “I’m a free speech absolutist” stance. We’re all human. He’s doing good things. I just think he has a giant blind spot for this area of knowledge, and he may be a bit too naive in how he deals with the Chinese government. Then again, maybe it’s for the better. Who knows.
@@benc2972you are questioning his motives and intentions based on his investments, and I don’t as much. He’s smart enough to state his true perspectives. we should also be smart enough to judge for our own purely based on the substance, without caring about his motives. I find motives are something people bring up when they aren’t able to argue objectively.
So I'm thinking it's converted in between rotation languages
Increase number of Smart hardworking people, with alot of energy
That last little bit was precious
My boys voice got shaky as hell when he brought up Taiwan 😂
I don't think China has been trying to avoid war and invading countries. I do recall they tried to invade veitnam after helping them agaisnt US. And they have done some shady shot with India. I like Elon but China is defo a country you should be very careful with.
Taiwans aka. Republic of China.
@@levelazn Formally recognized by 2 countries.
@@zack2804 yeah vatican and disneyland
Where you at Peter Ziehan ?
no war needed , our own leaders has defeated us for decades now
Elon saying all the blame was put on germany after world war 1 when there was loads of blame to go around and was the seeds to world war 2 is the biggest breath of fresh air iv had in a while
Almost everyone agrees on this as far as Ive encountered. I was taught “The Treaty of Versailles” was what triggered the economic ruin of Germany and thus its desire for revenge.
@@tommydennen9563 I was taught this in High School like 20 years ago.
@@tommydennen9563 And there comes this one guy who believes he can solve everything, a beacon of hope when people were burning stacks of paper cash cause it was worth less than the heat it provded. So many people were betting on him. Why not bet on him as well, what is there to lose? That was the mindset of the average german. Overwhelming majority was far from being nazis. The communist party was the biggest rival of the NSDAP before Hitler became chancelor
I love how elon is such a student of history and life. very well read
Leaders are readers :-)
True but I believe Elon reads and learns from mistakes of our past, Putins war rn literally happened because he read a soviet history book about the histroy of Ukraine during lockdown and now is trying to be a 15th century Chinese warlord again, two heads of the same coin@@Darrius996
How does it taste?
@@Darrius996 like the painter?
The chinese are internally focused. We Americans are externaly focus with an obsession with exporting our system on other nations using our military.
As time goes on the only thing that is guaranteed to increase is our ability to inflict damage.
Fascinating interview from each other. They have broadly perspective
This conversation is way better then the one he had with joe Rogan recently
Lexi is slightly more versed on world politics/history 😅
It was just boring enough to make me tired.
These are Jonny come lately slowpokes who just now barely woke up, but instead of admitting they were wrong, they continue acting pompous amd shunning the people who were right all along. Can't stand the pompous act when they did alot to bring in and cause everything they now complain about, they should be profusely apologizing amd taking leads from people like Alex Jones instead they say everything he said 20 yrs ago as if it's brand new amd they're the only ones who thought of it, infuriating
This is an appeasement to leftists.
Bc Lex didn't go off topic to talk about bears and DMT
The point here in regards to Taiwan, is whether the island declares independence unilaterally by the govt. of the day, remains to be seen. However, China has made its position clear with its policy on Taiwan, reunification is much more preferable than outright hostility but it could not be discounted if necessary. Taiwan is as important to China as Hawaii is to the U.S. That status quo would be difficult to change for either side, unless the world ends. Taiwan would need to reassess its relationship with China & the U.S. at the same time whenever a new govt. takes office in the island. A misalignment or even a miscalculation on China ‘s policy for cross straits relations, may prove to be disastrous for the island’s authority & its people.
We need a pause 🤣
We need more ppl think other nations like Elon Musk does, not demonized other different culture.
There a bunch of commies wtf
@@cjm7685so what? Who cares? Your way of thinking is why we are always at war but call other people a threat.
@@cjm7685 How do you know that? How can you prove your conclusion?
Every time I listen to Elon I am shocked with the depth of understanding and insights he has for current and historical events.
lol
The guy is an idiot 😅
It's almost like when you smart and have access and time to educate yourself you have a better understanding, instead of getting your opinion of world events through biased news reports
An excellent interview with no interruptions and as always a lot of common sense spoken by Elon Musk.
China is doing really well developing. West criticism really helps. So US and China really should continue to push each other and work together
it really does, but US should be prepared, no one can continuously performed badly as the leader and still expect to keep the position.
Sure the Am has been inquisitive; they are building Long-Arm Unsinkable Carriers everywhere.
Lex and Rogan should both take a detailed trip to China so they can better understand the subject matter
I agree. Joe only spews negative rhetoric about China. I guarantee his mind would be blown if he actually went there and saw things for himself. The future is in China. And I'm American saying that.
China has never done anytning to you or me. Our leaders have sold out the labor force to China & now want a war with them which is hilarious.
Elon has spent a LOT of time in China and with their leadership. He just talked at length about it 🤨
Rogan for sure, Rogan is a lost midget with no sense of the world.
And become victim of hostage diplomacy.
I think it’s only us talking about wars… visit any city in China they are incredibly well run organized. Look at ourselves we have territories all over the world. China? Military basis?
I never really listened to Elon Musk before Lex podcasts and it made me realize that not only Elon is a great entrepreneur but he is also a man of wisdom.
You're missing a lot he is really a smart man, and i believe or hoping to believe that he is a good guy.
That’s why the main stream media wants to destroy him any chance they can get
I could listen to these guys for hours! Oh wait… I HAVE!!!
stop supposing that governments represent the people and these conversation change a lot
Export the Quantum, Chat GPT, Revit, Plant 3D, Civil 3D, Inventor, ENGI file of the Building or Refinery to Excel, prepare Budget 1 and export it to COBRA. Prepare Budget 2 and export it to Microsoft Project. Solve the problems of Overallocated Resources, Planning Problems, prepare the Budget 3 with which the construction of the Building or the Refinery is going to be quoted.
"The foundation of war is economics." Well said!
所以美国人花在战争上的钱还不够多么😂美国自从成立以来，一直都在参与大大小小的各种战争，却从不关心国内低收入群体的生存问题
Why do u assume I speak your language? If you have something to say, speak English.@@user-gx5ur6ci2m
Funny that u assume understand your language@@user-gx5ur6ci2m
Now I appreciate a lot more about Musk than a super sharp technologiest and entrepreneur.
He is just taking rubbish here, use your own brain
When both sides realize there won’t be a winner from the war, then there won’t be a war, at least not a hot one.
What if its a win on both sides, hot or cold?
@@erictschroeder1064 then that’s peace.
Depends on what it takes for both sides to realize there will be no winner.
Not true, throughout history people have been prosecuting wars despite or regardless of their perceived ability to win or lose it.
so wrong. You probably believe the typical dogma that nuclear war will wipe out humanity as well 😂
As a future endeavor, ask musk what is the alternator and why he is in support of intentional design flaws
It is refreshing to listen to someone who is not only interesting and intelligent, but as well, does not hate America.
How can you hate a country that gave you everything. In no other country would this guy be in the position he is in now
@@johnwilliam5689 ..he doesn’t hate America
@@Blake4625kHz that’s what I’m saying why would he?
@@johnwilliam5689 Ok I will spell it out for you. He doesn’t have a low key hatred for America after the fact he has made tons of money, unlike a number of rich elites who after making bank seem to go woke and have some weird guilt about being American and feel like they have to voice a disdain for their own country.
Elon has to walk the tightrope of 2 different worlds . He can only give praise in one world the other he is allowed to be confrontational .
💯 spot on
so he is a coward in one world and honest in another? and his talk about the infrastructure of China is odd being that in the past decade they have had so many problems with recent buildings, dams and railways, falling apart within a couple years of construction and killing hundred or even thousands of its residents due to the corruption of government
Exactly. If he talks negatively about China, his money goes 📉
That is THE huge hammer above Elon's head. He can't speak freely so don't kid yourselves.
@@kingiam9271 I live in London but then went to Shanghai and Chongqing and was shocked and impressed by their infrastructure and driverless taxi. After that,I can personally say that NYC,London and LA are just some backwater and medieval cities in comparison!!
I don't think they touched on why Taiwan wants to be/remain independent. It was a very superficial explanation (the Hawaii analogy)
Yeah, all that tofu construction is quite impressive.
3:33 - Musk is a naturalized US citizen who was born & raised in South Africa, Educated in Canada, and immigrated to the US. I say this with love because it's what flavours Musk's world view and appreciation of the US. That background enhances his response, here, because he is speaking as a human being who has lived in many cultures, and it lends a more nuanced undeerstanding of his answer because we see him as not only US citizen but also as a global citizen who has lived under the constructs of many different cultures to arrive at his current world view. Love your work Lex, love the depth of your interviews, and I greatly appreciate the open candor of your guests. It speaks volumes to who you are as a human that people are willing to be so open and relaxed with you.
And The first African that owns Space X
So he went from being surrounded by white Europeans, to being surrounded by white Europeans, to being surrounded by white Europeans? I mean South Africa, Canada, and the US lmao? Hardly the most multicultural selection of states.
This is an excellent example of a well-educated interviewer conversing with a credible interviewee
You are very ignorant. Ah yes, the 'Super genius' who has no depth on geopolitics. China is about to go through the greatest demographic collapse the world has ever seen due to the one-child policy. There's absolutely no hope for continued GDP growth. Good job on listening to the guy who siphons US public money for his 'successful' companies on his geopolitical views. Next time maybe go for someone a little more educated on the subject, maybe Kevin Hart?
Credible lol
@@hazb8026 He has a car company, and a rocket ship company, so naturally he is very well versed in geopolitics according to people like @deckerron 😂😂
@@hazb8026 he has access to world leaders you can't even get close to.....
@@jayline3606 so a nobody then?
Great show though. Awesome final statement at the end!
I’m from Britain but when he talks about how America could have taken over the world and he’s right. You didn’t and you did rebuild it def fills me with pride it can’t be forgotten 🇬🇧 🇺🇸 ✊
The "Marshall Plan" was a sheer act of genius!
Hoover did it first after WWI
Acts of conspicuous kindness, goodness, reconciliation, and healing unimaginable traumas of people are not naive actions. They are the only actions. We try to do it through psychotherapy to stop trauma effects. It WORKS. It's so beautiful to see the effects! Everyone can do the work of good, every day. Starting from the simplest things. Dostoyevsky wrote about it in " The Brothers Karamazov." Maybe you can do a review of this book? That would be great. It is rich in profound insights. Thank you for the podcast & your hard work !
Humanity has it's barbarians, showing kindness only emboldens them.
@zzzzBadBoyzzzz Good point! Barbarian side is partly due to traumas, in my opinion & from my experience. It needs healing through psychotherapy work & prayer. Most of all by turning back to God - the Spirit of Truth. People who choose evil, destruction might be damaged beyond "repair"- in rare cases. We need to put boundaries and protect ourselves & the most vulnerable.
Amazing talks ❤
Gen.MacArthur " Bet you wish you gave me those nukes now"
I listen to Lex and Elon as my daily feed, enriches my brain vs mainstream
keep in mind just being against the mainstream does not mean correct. Elon has not shown to be the genius he portrays himself as. Yea the mainstream has issues, but being against it just to be against it is in itself unwise.
Pretty much spot on. Conspicuous acts of kindness.
So I would think outside just these countries is the implementation of the realization of the 4th industrial revolution. On that in progress to implementation. I would think that premise over still using fossil fuels and the most valuable minerals needs true justification of premise for advantage
The civilization that brought the world gunpowder and paper has the power to lead people into space and beyond.
Now I really feel worried
The Xi’an life-size terracotta army would be a marvel to see. Uniform but no two alike. Individuals within a unit. A small replica stands on my shelf, his head tilted in calm purpose. Systems in nature greedily compete and eventually collaborate for mutual survival. Humanity teeters on a tipping point, and Elon's idea of conspicuous acts of kindness is timely.
About time for China to show some goodwill towards the USA after everything we've done for them.
@@Jianju69 Right on!
@@Jianju69 Show some goodwill? There have been decades of trade that has enriched US corporations, supplied US with cheap goods and allowed US to get extremely rich. You might not appreciate it because you didn't get a share of the rich that US has generated but doesn't mean China has been mean to US. Your media probably told you China has been terrible to the US but try and look back into history and decide for yourself. Do you genuinely think US got nothing in return for utilising the cheap labour in China?
@@BatCountryAdventures Sure, some have grown rich, and of course we all got cheap televisions, but at what cost? Now we have a China that cannot wait to conquer the world. Serves us right for engaging in business with people devoid of honor.
Reading about it is far more impressive than seeing it.
The interviewer looks like Cody from Orange County Choppers
Powerful interview. You nailed that. Bravo Mr. Fridman!... Bravo indeed! 🤌👌👏 🇨🇦
He said USA has not been inquisitive lmao!!! USA has been a country for 239 years but 222 of years have been in war. USA has 800+ military bases around the world. Easily googleable 😂😂😂
The US could take over nearly any country militarily. It's not in their interest to do so. Keep that in mind.
@@NYoung-lq5us In today's age, taking over a country would be too obvious for the rest of the world to see. But what the USA will do is install puppet leaders and take their wealth out for their corporations.
Colonization is not the US model. They've learned that from Europe's history of imperialism it's more trouble than it's worth. They much prefer to install vassals that do their bidding without the mess of having to govern it.
@@lookupEdwardBernays Countries that have been raped and pillaged by the USA of course will have vengeance. Nuclear is one way to deter and to be used when things escalate more in the future. Your sentences already show this Murican exceptionalism that the USA should be the only one with nuclear and other countries need the US approval to own their own? lol
He said acquisitive, not inquisitive. And he was referring to post world war 2. If they were acquisitive about it they would have made the entire country their military base, not just a station. Which they had the full ability to do, but never would have done regardless, for the same reason they pulled out of Vietnam, and Afghanistan, the majority opinion of their own population disagreeing with it.