Analysis of Adolf Hitler's mind | John Mearsheimer and Lex Fridman
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Full podcast episode: kzhead.info/sun/pZiwfLyGsJawmJE/bejne.html Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzhead.info Guest bio: John Mearsheimer is an international relations scholar at University of Chicago. He is one of the most influential and controversial thinkers in the world on the topics of war and power.
Way to legitimize Hitler.
King leopold of Belgium murdered 20 million people in the Congo, but for some reason is never brought up in the same conversation as Hitler. Can’t think why.
cuz it's not as important wehraboo
@@abrahamgn3614 ah another ZioNazi
cuz belgium is the headquarters for nato
You know why…
And Mao killed multiple times more people than Hitler did, but they're not the people who make the movies, control the news and run the banks so,,,, that's why
"Hitler was probably the most murderous leader in modern history"...has this dude never heard of Stalin or Mao?
Lol I know these guys are idiots.
Genghis Kahn literally k*lled off about 40 million people, which was 10% of the world population at the time.
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It's not a contest, k? Yeesh
@@brucemacmillan9581 I don't have the kind of mental disorder I would need to have in order to understand how on earth you reached that interpretation so I'm not even gonna try lol
How can this guy say Hitler wasn’t charismatic? Watch ANY speech of his and you’ll see it’s like a work of amphetamine-induced theatre. German citizens were in awe.
Really though? He is very screamy... you need to remember that Hitler was never elected by the German people. He declared himself a dictator when they enacted emergency powers in the Reichstag after the fire in the place (they blamed this on Communists)... the Conservatives put him in place as the Chancellor because they thought they could control him and wanted to keep power through a bloc arrangement with the Nazi party. The Nazi party did not even get 40 or 50% of the full votes in the last free German elections and they were even using underhanded tactics to get the result they got (Goering was the minister of interior for Prussia and used local police to steer away other party voters from polling stations, etc.). He didn't seduce a nation, he took power.
that was very deliberate performance though, not the charisma and presence he was said to possess in person when not acting like a deranged prophet.
He also said hitler was the most murderous leader in history and that is not even close to true.
Exactly. Anyone that is capable of thinking for themselves knows this is complete nonsense. It took me all of 12 seconds to look this guy up and understand where his delusions come from.
Charisma is certainly subjective. He never said Hitler wasn't charismatic. He admitted "he" (John) didn't see any charisma, even though millions did. I'm in the same boat. Hitler induces nothing but revulsion in me. Zero charisma. I wouldn't even need to know what he was pushing to be inclined to reject it. Literally the antithesis of charisma.
How Stalin always gets a pass amazes me
Yes! Stalin was a genocidal megalomaniac.
It shouldn't amaze you. Marxists get a pass.
😂😂😂
He didn't have a media machine to immortalize him
Stalin didn't target the Jews. And these guys are both Jews. So their opinion is heavily biased.
Simple, the British were intimidated by German industry, the manufacturing and engineering were superior, there are many Churchill quotes declaring the empires disdain for the German competition.
Yes! Refreshing to see this. Imperial Germany had to be stopped before they dominated Europe through innovation, manufacturing, and commerce.
@@pharmdadfit well that was then, now Germany is well placed behind many other Asian countries in scale, volume and precision, but this rivalry was the clear cause of WW2
@@augustusomega4708 deep resentment over the treaty of versailles by the German people was the cause of WW2. The treaty was so harsh against Germany to make them pay for the attrition of men lost and to knock them backwards economically because they were coming on so strong in the first part of the 20th century. They are once again a leader in Europe now in 2023 looking at GDP.
@@pharmdadfit of course, I have always argued this crippling document a relic from WW1 hamstrung German development and the rent seekers in London and Paris would not let go, because these funds somehow ended up in private hands. The French were human enough to concede their idiotic mistake and allowed Hitler to roll in easily, but the English got overheated and called for war...and London got the shellaccing it deserved. Hitler bombed the crap out of the English in 12 different shades of black and blue, they hid like rats in a sewer. Versailles was a reparation mistake that had to ultimately be forgiven if relations in the European region were to be normalized once more, but that didnt happen.
But Herr Hitler was no saint...his lust for power was obscene but Uncle Joe put a foot deep in his fat German aise 🤣😂😅
Mearsheimer: “Hitler was probably the most murderous leader in recorded history.” Really? What about Stalin or Mao?
This conversation they have is so incredibly one sided lol
yes they are realy stupidifying the topic
Yes .But those people you mentioned killed thier own people.they never invaded any country
Oh really, did USSR not attack Finland??
@@heikkijhautanen4576 & they stopped once they got that little bit of land to protect the St Petersburg flank.
“Imagine if Hitler won the area he would have committed mass atrocities” lol as if Mr Stalin didn’t already do that. It’s all so very strange
What hitler planned to do with Slavs was nowhere near to what Stalin did
Most Stories about Stalin are made up
Oh and what atrocities did Stalin commit in eastern Europe after WW2?
@@JohnKobaRuddy Stalin murdered Tens of Millions before the war started in Ukraine and then killed More people during the war this isn’t disputed. If he was a saint after the war it’s irrelevant
@@JohnKobaRuddymillions were killed, tortured and oppressed in Eastern Europe after WW2. Hungarian revolution ring a bell? Czechoslovakia 1968?
When my father was working on his Hitler biography in 1973 I recalled him telling me how shocked he was when he met with Hitler's surviving cousins and extended family and them telling him nobody ever came to talk with any of them till my Dad did. It was strange meeting them as they all seemed so ordinary. They survive to this day though they changed their last name after the war.
Would love to learn more from you about the stories they told
Wow
@joycekoch5746 I heard one of his 2nd cousins, an older woman, say that those unruly people needed to be controlled. The Jews got what they deserved. I also saw another 2nd cousin, an older man. When asked if it bothered him to be related to one of the most hated men in history, he grinned and said "Not really."
Marxists destroyed Russia in 1917. And then they used it to destroy Europe with multiculturalism. After World War II, the USSR introduced Marxist propaganda into American schools and degenerated American unity. Today the Kremlin is ruled by the multiculturalist Putin, who is destroying Eastern Europeans with tanks. And in the West, Europeans are being destroyed by the NETFLIX AGENDA (MARXISM)!
What is the title of your Dad's bio book?
“Hitler was probably the most murderous leader in record history” *Mao Zedong has entered the chat *Joseph Stalin has entered the chat *Genghis Khan has entered the chat
Sam vaknin explained better. Disfunctional families are root of evil in this world. A child who has not received love will burn the whole village to get warm
Power in human being is to admit human weakness and need for someone to love and depend.
Book Rape of mind describes better all the reason of war than classical historical evidence
For nazis Hitler was a figure of father. And Hitler’s father was cruel alcoholic
Kids in the victorian age who were sent to clean chimneys or into the coal mines turned out to be all evil, hm? ;)
Imagine the child born and instead of love and support he sees alcoholic that tells him something about industrialization and etc, beats him, betrays and etc. how far will ge go to compensate it? Movie La caduta degli dei shows disfuntional family dynamics as far in nazi Italia
Imperial Germany was not “largely” responsible for starting World War One. They were certainly a part of It but many nations were equally if not more responsible. Comparing that to World War Two where they were 100% responsible is kinda crazy.
yeah, I stopped watching the video at that point which was during the first minute. Too biased for me to care what else he has to say.
Totally true...reading "The sleepwalkers" shows that
People often say “history is written by the victor”, yet they never question the history they’ve learned from the victors who wrote it.
The real war was between the Germany and the Soviet Union. I can't conceive how bitter and nasty it must have been.
Rothschild empire vs Germany was actually the real war
I mean I'm pretty sure millions of dead Chinese and Japanese were in a real war too
Ian Kershaw said Hitler had formed an alliance with Stalin who he wanted to be his enemy and became an enemy of Britain who he wanted to be his ally. Also, Stalin was even more deceived. The Red Army trained the Germans in tank tactics and air warfare because the Versailles treaty forbade Germany from training its own forces. The Wehrmacht's early triumphs in Barbarossa were due to Stalin being too smart for his own good. He must have thought the Red Army's locations near the border wasn't going to lead Hitler to initiating an invasion.
Kershaw is highly subjective. I don't agree with any of his conclusions. Or let's say, only with very few of them
Had Hitler read Mackinder's geostrategics, he would have known there was no chance of an alliance with GB
I don't agree with his view on Napoleon being an aggressor. If you look at most of the "Napoleonic wars" they were largely provoked by the British. A large part of the wars were Napoleon fighting coalitions put together by the British so they could put the monarchy back on the throne, because they didn't agree with the French revolution
No sir, Napoleon was incredibly aggressive the french army invaded Portugal 3 times, and inflicted huge casualties and terror and desperation as well as looting… The Portuguese never did anything against France. The short guy was a maniac, a terrorist and a looter.
The Empire was involved in many wars!
100% true. Almost all of the wars of the coalitions against the French were started by the coalition. It was a reactionary coalition of absolute monarchies fighting against the ideology of the French revolution.
Mearshimer says Hitler, and not Mao, or Stalin, was the most murderous leader?
Yes, a bit strange
I think he misspoke. He meant Hitler was one of the most murderous leaders in history, compared to Napoleon. He’s making a distinction between the two leaders, not necessarily claiming that Hitler is THE most murderous. At least that’s my interpretation given his expertise on military history.
It's not a contest, k? Yeesh
@@brucemacmillan9581 Uh, that's not even the point. Sheesh. He's an expert, a scholar, yada yada yada. He made a mistake. Idk why.
@@mikeyerian2562 He didn't make a mistake. The conversation was about Hitler, and particularly Hitler in comparison to Napoleon. Tho Stalin is mentioned later in the interview. But Stalin didn't start WW2. Hitler did. Of course Stalin didn't help with the stupid non-aggression pact he signed with Hitler before Hitler invaded Poland. If Stalin hadn't done that, maybe Hitler thinks twice about invading.
Didn’t Patton say we fought the wrong enemy
Yeah because we did lol propaganda convinced everyone to kill the Germans who honestly were the last hope for Western civilization. Now look at the west
Patton was an idiot...
I find it funny that Lex romanticizes bravery of Russians when they are renown of deploying murder squads to kill those fleeing battle.
He must be slavic
20 MILLION Russians died in WW2 compared to 6M J and 1M combined from other nations…it’s why this is such a big holiday in R. Get over your Russ phobia it was cultivated by propaganda to keep the war machine going…we should be moving to diplomacy instead of wars
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The alliance system caused WWI, Germany was no more to blame than the others. Really Austria intransigence over it’s demands to Serbia caused things to lead to the Alliance snowball issue.
If a history professor or an 'expert' states that "Hitler was the most recorded murderer in history" he has neither heard of Stalin, Leopold, Genghis or Mao - or chooses to forget them (for personal reasons i expect)
Lex old son John is a great guest , very intelligent and unpacks issues with an eloquent way
I may not always agree with Professor John Meishmeimer but I ALWAYS LISTEN CLOSELY to him. RS. Canada
But the problem is that he only have OLD knowledge. There are far better historicans than him. Why they still call him I don't know. I guess it it because they are aware of that people WANT HIM to tell the old samme story even it is not correct.
richardsimms/ your knee pads must be worn out
I want to comment on Professor Mearsheimer's comparison of Russian success in the case of Napoleon's and Hitler's invasions and the 1st World War failure of the Russian Army. In two former cases, there was strong leadership. In the latter case, there was a disintegration of leadership - a coup in Moscow when Tzar Nicolas was ousted from power, et cetera. Thanks to Professor Mearsheimer and Lex for the interesting discussion.
This is one of your best interviews. John is an incredibly wise and insightful man. We are lucky to have him.
If he could only separate Israel from its people. Why does Putin get a pass?
@@FighterFlash@fight. Gosh. He just doesn’t get the narrative! But you sure do .
I have to admit I was a bit underwhelmed by Mearsheimer's talk; particularly, by what he had to say about Hitler and the German invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941. There was nothing in his comments on those two topics that was new or insightful and that hadn't already been said by other scholars.
He got numerous widely known facts completely wrong, like he was just making things up
You are clearly not a serious student of history
"Probably the most murderous leader in recorded history" Love how Stalin never seems to get mentioned.. Oh wait, Because History is written by the Victors.. Thus recorded history is flawed..
You should’ve done the Piers Morgan “Do you condemn the acts of…” shtick…
Piers is so basic
An Anglocentric view of Napoleon. He embodied the Englightenment values: he introduced the French penal code, reformed education, encouraged science. He was a brilliant military strategist (his strategies are still studied at West Point). He wasn’t perfect, but which leader is? I am surprised Mearsheimer didn’t mention Stalin, or Pol Pot, or Mao. They were much, much more lethal than Napoleon.
More lethal than Hitler too. I have no respect for this guest.
I don't know what mean Will to power. But I guess this is the point.
Not only a brilliant military strategist but widely considered the Greatest military leader of all time.
He was talking about them in the context of conquest, not murderousness. He wasn’t comparing hitler to napoleon in terms of how villainous he was but in terms of military successes.
You even watch the interview? He mentions stalin was worse than Hitler, and compared Hitler to Napoleon as in having a will to power. I once heard a loose quote about how in 100 years people will view Napoleon and Hitler in the same light, I wonder why...
I don't think that a capture of Moscow would have resulted in a German victory. We see that Napoleon invade and burnt Moscow to the ground. Yet, the French were slaughtered on the way out and ended up losing big.
Military technology was drastically different from Napoleonic times and WW2. Taking Moscow would've absolutely been a German victory.
@@lucasgrey9794Stalin would have continued to rule beyond the Urals. He had the government evacuated to Samara.
The Russians burnt down Moscow to force the French to journey in the winter
@@nazmul_khan_ Rule what exactly? The Germans control the industrial and resource areas of Russia leaving Stalin to rule what?
@@nazmul_khan_ True, very true. The Russian resistance was amazing. Unconquerable people.
Sorry, but even as a kid when I was quite new at school and heard for the first time that a Serb in Serbia killed the heir apparent of Austria and because of this a war startet and became a world war and in the end Germany was condemned as the only guilty, I was puzzled and thought that I must have missed something crucial. Today I experienced being lied to on so many levels , I’m convinced that this is kind of the usual politics. I still do not know what happened though I’ve learned a lot and have some questions. But still this big war with the intermediate of 20 years is a taboo, especially if you are a German. At the moment world is changing and a lot of truth is being revealed. We will have to wait another two or five years then a lot of the history of the 20th Century will be explainable. It all will unravel .
The reason it is blamed on Germany is that the war would not have become a World War had Germany not declared war on Russia. This is the timeline: Franz Ferdinand was assassinated -> Austria Hungary declared war on Serbia -> Russian Empire declared war on Austria Hungary, because they were a close ally of Serbia -> Germany, having a mutual defense treaty with Austria Hungary, declared war on Russia -> France, having a treaty with Russia, declared war on Germany If Germany had never declared war on Russia, it would've remained a war between Austria-Hungary and Russia, that's the logic behind blaming the Germans. It's stupid, because really it was Austria Hungary's fault for invading Serbia, but Germany helped in escalating the conflict.
JM is a great argument for the necessity of counter factual thinking. I find myself disagreeing with his takes constantly, but always appreciate how he forces me to back up all my own takes and assumptions.
What are you disagreeing with him about?
I'd be curious too, what do you disagree with JM about? I've disagreed with him recently about his vision of Israel and Palestine.
@@justgivemethetruth in what way re: Israel & Palestine?
@@aleksadodic5102 I don't think Israel has any choice in what they do. I don't particularly like and I rarely agree with Elon Musk, but even he understood ( after all his previous anti-semitic ramblings ) ... “There's no choice but to kill those who insist on murdering civilians” - Elon Musk Also the writings and experience of Mosab Hassan Yousef, the Green Prince, Son Of Hamas are very compelling in explaining from the inside what Islam is, what Hamas is, and how do view and respond to it. We have millions of people in the world stuck in a 7th century BS ideology trying to re-emerge in the present day chaos to take over.
@@justgivemethetruth Totally disagree. Israel/occupied/conquered Palestinian territory using political lobbying and military power - they see themselves as nation chosen by God and that they have a God given claim on the territory (in what way is that less radical than Islam) - they are ethnic cleansing the Palestinian territories and they have created an apartheid state. How would you react if someone came and occupied your homeland - would you call your actions against the occupier an act of terrorism or rebellion?
Happy thanksgiving lex
As the great granddaughter of a Russian soldier who fought in both world wars, losing also his son and son-in-law, I heard so many heartbreaking stories from my great granddad about the senselessness of war… I feel like at least 2 subsequent generations of Europeans, especially Russians, grew up with huge scars and trauma from the war and losing family members in the war. I still hear my grandma’s stories about the hunger blockade in my ears every time I see food being wasted. I have lived in Russia, in Germany, in the UK and now in the US, but will always consider myself European before anything else. I can’t understand how whole nations can be dragged into this fanatic state of mind and that’s why it totally breaks my heart to see Russia follows in Germany’s footsteps nowadays in Ukraine… My family, who have lost so much during the WWII are now shouting from their rooftops the same kind of fanatic propaganda that drove the Germans into creating the monster of Hitler… It physically pains me to see history repeating, my poor granddad and great granddad are probably turning in their graves now… May there be peace one day for all of us ❤
Good point but you won't get too many thumbs up for it, too many Russia bots and US maga crowd keyboard warriors for the Professor's anti-US crusade.
Another Vlasovite
War will not go away until Jesus fights the final war: Armageddon (Revelation 19-20)
@@TheRootedWord War will never end as it is the highest manifestation of human predatory instinct.
Putin is following in the footsteps of Ivan IV by claiming Kyiv, Poland-Lithuania, Livonia (Estonia-Latvia) as part of Russia's patrimony.
Germany never started ww1 it was Austria who declared war on the Serbs then Germany entered as ally to Austria and Russia for the Serbs. Get it right!
Germany encouraged Austria to declare war on Serbia, promising unconditional support. Germany forced its way through neutral Belgium and invaded France. But you're right, Austria shares a lot of culpability, it was keen to eliminate Serbia as a regional threat.
Austria would have not attacked Serbia if Germany had not directed them and gave them the green light.
@@vistaverde77 how does that mean they started the war? It does not
@@adnanfetibegovic8491 Germany started the wider conflict (beyond Austria/Serbia) by marching through Belgium and invading France.
how can he say Hitler was not charismatic??? Who on earth was more charismatic than Hitler?
That's not what he said. He said he didn't find him charismatic, but that people in his time and place did. Charisma is in the eye of the beholder.
11:20 It may have been that what happened was that the Soviets were brought up against a cliff edge. The soviets either fight for their lives, or they die. Literally only 2 options. They chose to fight for their very existence. The Germans were tired, and frozen in the snow. Of the 2 motivations, which one would overwhelm?
It's like he says in the interview, survival it's what matters.
And pure numbers but yes I do agree
The Soviets were months away from invading mainland Europe.
That is a primitive conclusion. The germas was not stopped by the russians in front of Moscou. They were just run out of fuel. And because US startede to send supply to russian the russian was just faster to rebuild offensive capapcity faster than the germans and then... well then the war was just lost...
Where does King Leopold II of Belgium stand in this spectrum of congenital aggressors?
why do you NPC's keep spamming this? 😂 Go watch a video about fucking Belgium if that's what you want to hear
this whole comparrison doesnt ad up. One was a full scale war and the other was a genocide. So Numbers of dead people arent the only thing matters. If, we should talk about Mao, Stalin and others as well. But WW2 was something else. Completly new. King leopold killed a lot over years. Most people in WW2 died during 1942-1945. So its the whole dynamic that makes WW2 special.
He was okay I think.
The Romans were also brutal killers, the wiped out entire ethic groups in what is now France, all under the orders of Julio's Cesar who many praise and we even have a month called after him, yet nobody mentions his ethic cleansing.
Nice interview, but a shame that such learned individuals don't make mention of Greece's role in the German failure to conquer the Soviet Union. Mussolini's invasion of Greece was a massive failure as the Greeks scored the first Allied victory on European soil in Autumn 1941. As a result, Hitler had to delay Operation Barbarossa in order to lend aid to the Italians and Albanians attacking Greece, which subsequently led the Germans to get decimated by the ensuing Russian winter
If Great Britian hadn't declared war after the Germans and Russians split Poland WW2 would of been completely different.
there would have been no war in the western theatre at all, its churchills fault that ww2 turned into the insanity that we call ww2 mostly. Had Britain gotten another leader instead of the stupid drunkard Churchill they most likely would have sued for peace and ended it right there.
number of clips can tell he is learning a lot.
The British were way more aggressive than Napoleon, they kept the wars going Napoleon hardly declared war
Every time you learn about WWII, you see how close and similar the Israeli mindset is to (or at least influenced by) the Nazis, starvation plan is just one example, and when you read the systematic Israeli propaganda, you realize that every accusation is a confession.
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Pretty stupid argument, but I'm not surprised with a name like that. Germans were natives to their land, Israelis are not. The Germans were not allowed to recover their historical land, Israelis were allowed under the international eye to steal Palestinian and other lands for decades. When we go to concentration camps, Germans were killed in concentration camps by Allied nations even after the war, I don't see Palestinians killing Jews in concentration camps yet, that might be a similarity. What was similar though was the feeling of persecution since many like to overlook the fact that there had been consistent attacks on German minorities in the world, in Russia for example the anti-German sentiment saw the Volga Germans religiously and culturally persecuted even before Bolshevism, and in my country of South Africa German schools were dissolved after the English illegally invaded the Boer Republics. I would say both had good reasons to feel persecuted, whether I agree completely with their actions resulting from the fact is a different matter.
wrong , blame the people who do not want peace in the middle east
On the heath a little flower blooms, and it's name........ERIKA
Fantastic interview
Fascinating conversation... Without internet & these interviews..we'd all remain in the manufactured ignorance..public education has intentionally inflicted on society.. Free speech, objectivity, and open dialogue..may keep humanity from repeating the horrors of the 20th century.. however, with the current western political class, I'm not so sure..
Definitely listen to other viewpoints on World War I, Holocaust, and Russia/Ukraine. You're not going to listen to some guy Johnny on KZhead comments however other well respected scholars will have very different views than Mearshimer, who I believe is wrong about almost everything.
Yeah don’t count on it. We have monkey brains with god like technology. Until one of those things changed we will eventually kill most of us off.
I don't know if it's up to me, but sitting in that position as Lex sits while talking to the professor is quite disrespectful. You invited a guest to your podcast, at least have the courtesy to look like you care about what your guest is saying.
hes very casual in his interviews. Nothing disreapectful at all.
C.E. Wood "Mud: a military history".... the mud was inevitable and the machines simply werent built for mud, frozen tundra did not outright stop the blitzkrieg contrary to lore. dope book
Exactly. Winter didn’t halt Barbarossa, the Red Army and Rasputitsa did.
Yeah you do a great job making sure you gave the right impressions for society.
Excellent discussion. Both have so much knowledge and understanding of these events. They are pertinent now.
no both is lacking 10 years behind in the studies of why Hitler starts his war. It had been proven that Germany was 2 months from bankerupt each time they invaded a country.
I understand and almost entirely agree with Professor Mearsheimer's wide array of analyses of the various modern great power geopolitical dynamics that have transpired throughout the 20th century and now well into the early 21st century I understand his explanation as to why he thinks that Britain should not be counted among the great 20th century powers along with the USA, the USSR, and Germany. I can then speculate and infer, while proceeding from his analysis about Britain, why Imperial Japan, notwithstanding her mighty ascension during the first half of the 20th century, also should not be counted alongside the "big three" either. However, I would very much like to hear Professor Mearsheimer expressly articulate his own analysis as to why he does not consider Japan to have been among the great powers of the 20th century --even at her pinnacle moment, roughly speaking, between1937 and 1943.
It's an interesting question. Here's a potential explanation. Britain's power came from economic dominance (and the fleet) and after WWI it had lost that predominant economic power. Britain for centuries had been able to finance continental powers to fight against the continental hegemon but had lost this critical tool, all it had left was a fleet, colonial forces to deploy and the English Channel. Britain could not have defeated Germany without the US. Japan wasn't even capable of conquering Hawaii, let alone invading the US West Coast. Japan could slap around minor colonial formations in Malaya and Indonesia but could not defeat a very weak China.
Yeah, you've certainly made a number of valid points in assessing Imperial Japan's actual force projection capabilities. One point that you didn't mention is the fact that their army took on the Soviets twice and got trounced both times. They had a very powerful navy, possibly even the most powerful in the world for a very short period of time. They sure raised hell in the Pacific and Asia for a few years that included a kind of "bicycle blitzkrieg' form of land warfare, backed up by the navy and air arm. But their power projection was very unstable, and they couldn't seem to lock down any of their conquests beyond their own immediate regional waters and land masses. Perhaps the reason for that is one and the same as the reason behind their penchant for conquest in the first place -they had to travel far and wide to procure the basic natural resources required to achieve and sustain a great power status. All their force projection efforts were consumed just sustaining their force projection capacity. A vicious cycle. @@charlesiragui2473
@@jameswaugh8339 I think that's right: they had to become really aggressive to have a great power status and that aggresivity overexposed them. Classic case is the invasion of China. What was the purpose other than to feed the national thirst for domination and supremacist ideology? China didn't solve their resource situation. Probably their worst decision was to attack the US in Dec 1941 rather than attacking the USSR from behind. The Army wanted to attack the USSR and the Navy wanted to attack the US (each one driven by the same thirst for "glory"?). The last thing the Army needed was another enemy but this was in fact the moment when the USSR could well have cracked, as the transferred Far Eastern troops ended up saving Moscow from the Germans. Had the Germans actually taken Moscow, the USSR probably would have been cooked, because the entire train system of the country ran out of Moscow. Had the Germans controlled the trains, they would not have had anywhere near the logistics problems that they did. Lucky for us that the Imperial Army lost that 1941 debate in Japanese HQ.
All facts correct; a good analysis too. The word I was groping for to describe Japan's power projection predicament is "they were unable to 'consolidate' their territorial gains. The reasons for this are complex, but one critical element clearly seems to be that when the Japanese were conducting a defensive operation, as we all know too well, they all too often resorted to mass suicidal tactics. No military force can rely on such tactics for very long@@charlesiragui2473
He left out the responsibility of the Djuzzzzz
Because both of these guys are SWEJ. No wonder.
What did they do?
@@michaelvanderwal7390 They existed
@@matwinner9708 Ah, so you're just a crazy Nazi.
Sshhhhhhh...
Great analysis except for one major falsity : Germany did not start WWI.
Hitler attacked the Soviet Union because he came to know that they were a war and he would rather be the the first to attack even Germany was not prepared than to sit at home waiting to be overwhelmed. This leads to the next important question: why did the Soviet Union prepare for a war with Germany?
Why do you think?
Hitler's espionage informed him of Stalin's intentions. Stalin wanted to rule from Siberia to the Atlantic.
My understanding was it had to do with economic reasons, gas and food.
Why should not they? Hitler considered Russian as untermenschen and even send race specialist to see Stalin's ear to make sure he ain't jew. Historically Germany always had a fight with Russian even in ww1. Soviet prepare for defensive war as they know german would do something again.
Germany pulled out of the The Central Banking System and kicked Rothschild out. That's a big reason why the war happened. England and France didn't declare war on Russia when it went into Poland. Think, read, and listen critically.
I feel like this is a classic discussion where both people lack knowledge on the subject, though Mearsheimer is obviously the more intelligent of the two with his guesses. - First of all, if you want to understand WW2 and the German actions, you have to understand the German way of war, which is military science. This is a topic that Mearsheimer isn't aware of, and is the domain of military officers and analysts. Germany or Prussia always relied on quick offensives because Prussia was always surrounded by enemies and had to act quick to prevent a disastrous two front war. So they designed their whole thinking around perpetual and swift offense. The belief being, forget about a long campaign and attrition war, and instead smash the enemy's military in large battles with large enveloping and pincer movements along with combined arms. In fact the modern warfare learned by the USA does the same thing and is inspired by the Nazi doctrines (ie: US Marine actions in Iraq and how they smashed the Iraqis). - Second of all, saying Germany blatantly caused both WW1 and WW2 is a dumb stereotypical thing to say by Mearsheimer. Especially hypocritical when his analysis of the Ukraine war is much more in depth and shows that multiple factors made the situation worse. - Mearsheimer says that from the beginning, Germans were mass murdering Russian POWs. This is BS, there is no evidence of that. Russian POWs were "housed" on large open fields, and often dealt with starvation and famine, because Germans had no facilities to take care of over 1 million POWs. But they weren't just mass shot for fun or something. Also this wasn't a factor that somehow motivated the Russians to fight harder. This is just nonsense. Russians won not through "motivation" but through larger reserves, and the German army overextending itself on the mass of Russia. Finally the Russians won through effective counter offensives that were simply well done. - Mearsheimer keeps saying "Thank God they lost" which shows a heavy degree of bias, especially ironic since Americans then fought a 40 year cold war against the USSR and would have dreamed to be on the outskirts of Moscow like the Germans were. Americans doing it = Good, Germans doing it = Bad, according to Mearsheimer.
Well, to your last point, it is the biggest plus that the Americans and the Soviets ever had, that they didnt turn their coldwar into a hotwar. That fact shows their moral superiority to nazi Germany.
Thanks for your comment. I did not watch the video except for the first 40 seconds; you are confirming the suspicion I had right then. When I read their names I knew where this was going, as usual mainstream blabla. Not many Jews love the truth.
I agree
I agree
Seems like no germans tell their side. Too much bias by the winners
Hitler has been made a scapegoat for the sins of Germany during that period
Half of these sins are faked, and the other half is lied about to the core
What is that supposed to mean
@@lepersonnage371 BS
@@chrisrecord5625 nope, you just don't know history, only propaganda tropes
You're kidding, right??? Have you read history???
The mongals before battle killed POWs stacked the body’s and burn them in front of people before they invade…in some cases burned them alive or stack mountains of heads. I don’t know if he really does know a lot about history.
I’m fascinated by World War II and Hitler like a vast majority of people and I’ve exhausted all the documentaries and a lot of reading material but I found this podcast answered a lot of questions I hadn’t previously heard so thank you this was great
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Then I will recomend TIK for you. He is much better than this guy. TIK document that Germany was 2 months from bankerupt each time Hitler decieded to invade another country.
Both these two are not going to give a non biased opinion on hitler.
Two members of the tribe discussing Hitler. Yeah, this will be objective.😂
The Bolsheviks and Leninist always get a pass. Why aren’t they talked about more?
it is important to learn from the past mistakes of individual and group!
and and it is important not to invite a guest that is just telling fery tales targeting what English people want to hear. The guest is lacking at least 10 years behind in the knowledge of why Hitler started his invasions.
Lex needed to read way more about this subject matter before he tried to disagree with a guy of this guest's stature
Lex is a child, he has the mentality of a 5 year old.
Now both of you hold your horses Thanks to Lex’s podcast we had access to John’s wisdom and knowledge!
@@cristianbiro4024 Mearsheimer is a Chicago University professor who has been saying this for over a decade now, and he has been on more professional, mature, logical and intelligent KZhead channels. I suggest you watch his University Lecture in 2015 here in KZhead, or see him with the Duran, or with Judge Napolitano. Real adult and smart discussions over Lex "leaders and love, and peace."🤡🤣
Indeed, so Lex could push back on everything Mearshimer gets wrong (just about everything)
@@timmy-wj2hclol what? That's a rough statement... Can you elaborate?
Mearsheimer is incredibly clear sighted and articulate
Plus…WWII was going on for years in Asian before fighting broke out in Europe. And there was conflict in Europe started by The Soviet Union, Spain, Italy, etc., before Germany. This man is innocent in many respects.
There were also other nationalities in the Ussr. Not only Russians. And Ukrainians. And it’s good to never forget that there was quite an amount of Ukrainians fighting on the Nazi side against the Soviets.
Stalin and Mao were worse. This guy is turning a blind eye to history
Mao killed way more people
Newly converted radicals in the West are of course going to resemble Hitler much more than they'll resemble dictators in Russia or China. And since Western civilization still largely rules the world, those who resemble Hitler are far more dangerous. If the government of Russia or China falls, it won't be nearly as catastrophic as it would be if the government of the USA failed. The American government is still quite a long way from failing ... but give it another few decades or so, and the USA will hardly be recognizable. It's coming - self destruction is SURELY on the horizon. Watch the Democrats make it happen. And watch the Republicans stop them.
That’s a ridiculous claim. There’s a reason both men are still popular among non maniacs. Stop watching history channel and Anne Applebaum
@@tidakada7357the numbers say different
@@tonywilliams7152 no they don’t you are brainwashed. Mao was a bandit, but he didn’t execute millions of innocent people. Despite some of the most tragically foolish agricultural policies ever tried, life expectancy nearly doubled on his watch.
Every perpetrator views himself as the victim. Most ethnic cleansing and massive crimes were committed based on some perciieved past grivences.
Dude must watch msnbc / bbc and forgot history in general
Peter Ustinov, the great British actor and raconteur, actually saw Hitler give a speech in the flesh and he admitted he was scared of the mans ability to charm his audience then almost spellbind them. Ustinov said he felt scared because he made him, for a second or two, believe what he said.
Everytime someone talks about Hitler, they need to mention how murderous he is....
Mearsheimer is a great knowledgeable and wise honest man
Also, there is another culprit in many of the deaths in the Soviet Union and the CCP whom history and historians too often ignore: Lysenko and his faulty agricultural theories are responsible for a great deal of the starvation deaths.
How could the German Generals have been so wrong the sheer size of Russia, a logistical impossibility, then add the weather by November 1941 the Germans came to a stand still literally frozen. The Germans had lost almost 1,000,000 soldiers by the close of 1941. Then in December 1941 Hitler declares war on the USA a few days after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour the Russians did the fighting whilst America provided much of the munitions. Germany lost the war on the the 22nd of June 1941 a fateful decision that doomed them. The rest between 22nd June 1941 and 8th May 1945 was the play out of a non reversible decision played out to it’s cataclysmic end involving the pain and catastrophe of millions of individual lives…so sad. I end where I started how could supposed military experts the German Senior Officers trained to the highest level have not categorically objected to such a ludicrous folly. Absolutely crazy.
Hitler calculated they could take the Soviet Union in 10 weeks! The winter conditions weren’t even considered. Madness. Also Hitler did not expect the US, instead of taking japan, to focus on Germany as japan couldn’t survive without Germany! Makes sense to take out Germany. I can’t remember the dates but I read that Hitler was in poor health and his doctor did not expect him to live very long. It makes sense he made some rash decisions, trying to hurry things up as he wanted to win the war before he died.
fascinating amount of knowledge here... cant believe we're getting this for free.
Stop trying to pay for free sh*t! Give me your money since your so keen to give it away !
@No_jews_allowed 😂 you're absolutely right But I have a question. A genuine one... Why does jew thing doesn't end man?! Forgive my ignorance, but Im ok to read your arguments, your perspective. I've seen the profile pic, but how do I know that's legit info? Also, what else can you tell me, besides that covid agenda thing?
I finally figured out what's up with Lex. He's on Alprazolam.
Explain you nader!
Was Hitler more murderous than Stalin?
Lex have you thought of doing some ashtanga yoga. playing pickleball or running marathons. anything to get some shakti going
Yes and this is why Russia wants this to never happen again. If you have agressive military alliance, like NATO, getting closer and closer to your territory the same route as previous invasions were cunducted - then it is time to worry...
Also that Germans and most of Europe was christian and did not want communisme
Interestingly enough, the time difference in this discussion of WW 2 and the actual events are nearly the same as if two people were discussing tactics and other significant points about the Civil War in 1940
The Will to Power insight is interesting, Hitler entered the public sphere with the intention of becoming Germanys leader; I dont think Bonaparte did. Bonaparte was ambitious in the sense that he wanted as much power and status as he could possibly get but, I don't think he conspired for leadership until he saw the opportunity.
Hitler did not enter politics intending to lead Germany. He said he considered himself a messenger paving the way for a future leader.
napoleon was also a massive killer, only in a different sence, he killed so many ppl cuz his eager to conquer places. it is said that in countries he conquered (soldiers were drafted from those countries) the population decreased as much as with the bubonic plague and the numbers also go in the multiple millions. also a lot of the good things that are attributed to napoleon were based on him wanting to know the stats of his populations in order to get taxes and to draft for his armies. also he undid a lot of progressive laws, for example for women.
I'd like to know what he says about Mao and Stalin when it comes to the most murderous leaders?
I was actually quite intrigued too and im quite surprised Lex didn’t follow up on that?! Lex should have clarified for the viewers, it’s not good that he failed at such question, he is too slow… 😢
Hitler was affected with Nietzsche philosophy.... resentment leads to revenge....and forgiving leads to the child, it is when you learn to love humanity as a subject of the universe.... Zarathustra
It is quite a contrast how the Nazis treated the French so well and the Slavs so badly. Not sure what that was all about.
Racial hierarchy, the core belief behind National Socialism.
The rate of hostile Partisans on the eastern front was much higher.
It was reciprocal escalation
The slavs fought back
Fact: The harsher treatment of Russians compared to the English and French was not only during WW2, but also during WW1, so this behavior was not reserved only for the Nazis-Bolsheviks.
I like how after this segment he goes onto explain how Putin/ Russia didn't start the Ukraine war, as if Germany didn't have any "legitimate security concerns" in Czechia and Poland, the same way that he says Russia does in Ukraine.
also germany did not start ww1, this is such a huge propaganda segment lmao
If you're comparing the Ukraine-Russia war to Germany's invasion of Poland then you might want to listen to this segment
German people were being slaughtered in Poland before the invasion thats true.
Hitler did not even want this war. He wanted a corridor to Danzig (German city that was taken as a result of Treaty of Versailles) and made quite good proposals to Poland. Poland rejected them and this resulted in attack on Poland in 1939 September 1st. Also Poland mobilized their army first partly on August 25 and then again in August 31.
@@oussamaelbaz5932 I did, its the most generic no detailed nonsense compared to his explanations of "NATO expansion led Putin to invade Ukraine". If John was a bit more knowledgeable he could say the exact same thing for Germany "Chamberlain's 'Peace Front' encirclement policy led to Germany invading Poland".
What are POWs?
Stalin didn't have a problem killing russians in part because he was georgian, not russian.
Why did Hitler start World War Two? Isn’t this question based on a false premise? The last time that I checked, the history books stated that it was Britain and France who declared war on Germany in 1939.
WW2 began when that monster invaded Poland on September 1, 1939 under false pretense.
And he had invaded other European countries prior to that. And Japan had already started their war against China. I think the question here is, why do you think WW2 started when the British and French got involved and not Poland? Or China or any of the other European countries?
Germany was the only industrialized nation that was pulled out of the Great Depression? The Empire of Japan was an industrialized nation too, and it was out of the Great Depression by the early 1930s. 1932, I believe, and this was largely due to a build-up of the armed forces and their switch to Keynesian economic policies. Before Hitler even came to power in 1933.
Great talk!!
Fascinating discussion between Lex and John Mearsheimer
Pfffft this guest proved himself to be a complete joke when he said A.H. Wasn’t a charismatic leader, and he was the most murderous leader in history. Saying this type of nonsense in 2023 just proves A.H’s point about so-called democracies around the world whose leaders care not for the interests of the citizenry, and the newspapers which shape and control public opinion, owned by a few, who are all serving the dollar, so ultimately money controls these alleged democracies, and the rootless international clique which conducts its business everywhere, having allegiance to no country. It’s absolutely correct, and as those so called democracies only the white nations are now being intentionally invaded by 3rd world migrants, destroying the culture, destroying those nations, turning them into non-white nations, and demographically destroying the whites which built the entire 1st world which we all enjoy today. Indeed, A.H. Was correct about the internationalists.
Just like those elite exploited and enslaved those third world..to build first world
Sounds like the great reset that you’re talking about. The planned extinction of whites. Only 500million people left alive, 50k Japanese, 50k Chinese because they are easily controlled and immigrants destroying the 1st world. Like bruh, every neighboring country in Europe hates each other, what do people expect when complete strangers are in our vicinity??? Klaus Schwab is a monster and he’s definitely just a puppet. We’re so f’d.
I meant 50 million on both Asian countries I named
@@blairl6304He said he didn't personally find him to be charismatic, not that others didn't find him charismatic.
That was deep. I love it
I thought Germany tried to go through Ukraine to get to Baku and the oil there and that allies stopped that. That might have changed the outcome if they were successful with that, but it was far away. I think that was in the "Why We Fight" TV series, which might have been more propaganda narrative, but I think that was true that they were fuel limited.
I think that Mr Mersheimer makes an important point that is almost never mentioned, which is that Hitler was the only leader of an industrialized country that was able to pull his country out of the Great Depression and that MUST have helped him a lot in internal German politics in the first place and , in external politics in the second place
All he did was throw all the country's money and resources into military spending. That's not exactly a moral way to improve the economy.
@@Worldmisery That is true of course
@@user-qm2wl9ry9n Meaning, it wasn't really about trying to improve the everyday life of the people such as the businesses and workers. It was only about preparing for war against other nations because Hitler had aggressive and imperialistic diplomacy. So sure, yes, Hitler may or may not have pulled Germany out of the Great Depression, but why was that actually reallly a good thing? It wasn't good for Poland.
@@Worldmisery You are very probably correct
Napoleon was so cool Fascinating
Wasn’t Stalin a more murderous leader than Hitler?
I think so. I think Professor Maersheimer wants to characterise western leaders - leaving out Stalin because it’s not in scope of his analysis; either that or he is actually quite certain that Hitler was more of a psychopath and aggressor than Stalin…
@@reginamemoriesforever-vc8ql I think it’s the former
Not really, no.
@@jake8855 why would you say that?
@DioBrando90 Because, if you accept that Hitler was ultimately responsible for WWII, Hitler has a much higher body count than Stalin. Simple.
Hitler wasn't wildly popular before Jan 1933. Nazi party got 33% of vote in November 1932. Hitler also lost presidential election to Hindenberg.
The Nazis had greater success in July 1932 Reichstag elections (than in the November 1932 Reichstag elections 4 months later), winning 230 seats, became the largest party. By July 1932 Hitler was very popular throughout large sections of Germany, but you're right, he failed to win an overall majority of the popular vote.
@@Fitness4London he got annihilated by Hindenberg. Hitler and the Nazis were never close to a majority.
Threatening to tax the wealthy monarchy like Hindenburg and other wealthy aristocrats was the game changer to swing success of Hitler.
He was charismatic because Chaplin was still huge at that time and the mustache meant something different then, then it does to us today.
Next clip: Kylie's new lip gloss is a scam l John Mearsheimer and Lex Fridman
This guy seems like the kind of person that even if you repeat his exact words back to him, he'll still find a way to disagree with you.
Well said
lol😂 brilliant point
Doesn't seem like that at all. he does seem very aware of nuance. Very refreshing view of history as being multi-faceted.
Lex was making synopsis’s and the professor was being careful not to make one dimensional affirmations.
nope, listen caredully u deaf mf. Lex was repeating one factor and he wanted to put the importance on the other factors two.