After a long time we finally take a look at Chinese Tanks.
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"Все китайские танки" Андрей Чаплыгин
Iran: nice tank i'll buy 500 China:u can't even afford it Iran: I'll trade u oil for it China: SOLD
Captain Cookie93 you see any army using 99a other than pla?
@@mudman189 no it was a joke
@@mudman189 Thai army bought export variant
@@mudman189 99a is not sold in the market.
@Hunter6213 as well as VT-4, 99A Is used to treat stronger enemy.
wrong Chinese tanks gain horde bonus in a group of five and they can receive nationalism upgrade, they can also get depleted uranium shells and nuclear engine upgrade.
I know general, you are not alone.
Also, Overlord Tank can crush other vehicles.
“I have China’s blessing” ~ battlemaster tank
I suck there internet dry.
hahaha LOL.
I wonder how many times he said "reverse engineered russian -"
Michalik9 Vesel yes
It's how practically everyone did it in their day. To create something new without even knowing how the current best system functions is simply not the best strategy. Remember that the US soldiers that landed in Europe in 1917 were armed (even their rifles' ) with French and British equipment because it was both good and was being manufactured in quantity. The USA was a third world country little more than century ago and it generously copied French, German and British technology. People also fundamentally underestimate how complex reverse engineering is and what tremendous knowledge and industrial effort it requires it requires to recreate the thousands of subcontractors/parts required to manufacture 'reverse engineered' anything.
@@pietersteenkamp5241 actually the US was a world power by 1890, also while we did use french Machineguns and Tanks early in our involvement in to the war, the Machineguns proved to be so flawed that we replaced them with the first American Machinegun that became available (The BAR) and the war ended before American tank production kicked off. We also instantly out produced literally everyone in the war.
@@leihtory7423 It's actually tremendously hard copying complex weapons like tanks and aircraft and if nothing else it's shows a tremendous state sector industrial capacity to say nothing of what follows. It's only people who don't actually know anything about the complexity of these weapons systems that think 'copying' means 'easy'.
@@anarchyandempires5452 Yes, but as everyone would the French gave the Americans second rate equipment as the best was going to themselves considering that their troops were of course doing the large majority of the fighting. Congratulations on being able to outproduce 'everyone' eventually especially having a combined population larger than that of France and Britain and access to a continental and South American empire of quite extraordinary proportions.
I “reverse engineered” a history test in high school one time. There were consequences.
This comment is soo underrated xD
No. Your case is "pure cheating". By "reverse engineer" a history test, you should have bocome a historian.
Did your father punish you severely
Lol, copying and reverse engineering has 2 very different meanings 😂
Bc cS I was using the narrators definition, my teacher, however, agreed with yours.
Good thing for China is that they didn't copy Russias economy ....
Good for the top 4 percent of the population considering something like 78 percent of the wealth of countrie is held by the top 4 percent, It’s terrible for the rest when the average person earn less than $1:50 a day
@@xclonejager6959 Top 4% controls 78% wealth? that sounds much more like US instead.
@@xclonejager6959 you have bad info
they dont copy they use a country to gain power.
@@yixianli4651 China has a far greater wealth disparity than America and whats more important is its disparity is growing wider faster than any significant country. This is usually a symptom of older fully developed countries so what is even crazier is that China is a new market economy and still not fully developed. But final truth is just take a trip from Shenzhen to see rows of super cars, up to a village in Hunan and see millions of people living without roads or any sign or any real civilization. Sorry China is in a class all by itself!
Ive been waiting for someone to talk about modern chinese tanks, they rarely mention in modern tank discussions.
Well, a lot of people dont talk about them because information on them is hard to find, even what I got isnt 100% reliable, but it is the best I could find
RedEffect yeah i guessed sow and that generally things from china are of low quality and inferior when compared to its european counterparts.
But in reality we shouldn't underestimate them especially when we lack proper information about them
fulcrum 29 meh i dout they are any good
dilango 1011 I have no doubt that the tanks are good. The problem is the crews. Training in China mostly consists of political indoctrination, as the PLA is considered more of a political tool of the CCP rather than a proper fighting force. I bet if you put a Russian crew in one of these tanks and sent them to some battlefield somewhere, they'd preform pretty well.
99 series is pretty well done considering only 1.9% of the gdp went into militaries for years
我们中国人真的应该增加军费支出
@@giladpellaeon3664they can only do that if their economy keeps growing.
@@Sheir01 it is, and fun fact: chinese economy is growing faster than any other country in the world
@@Sheir01 nvm not fastest, but very fast
This is an interesting video, I would challenge your sources on a number of details though: - Your figure for 96B production is too high. Its production run was very limited and not intended for mass adoption. - FY-I and FY-II reactive armour equips Type 59D. 96 and 99 series are equipped with FY-IV and FY-V. - 96A has an 800hp 12/150ZL-1 engine, not 1000hp. This weak engine was the main reason 96B was submitted to tank biathlon. - 96B has FY-IV just like 96A, this is not an upgrade. Main 96B upgrade is the new hull rear accommodating new engine. - What sources are you using for the upgrade to the thermal viewer? - ''Same engine as 96A...'' No. Simply looking at 96A and B you can see their engines are different. - Again, FY-II does not equip the 99 tank. - 99A not only has new turret but new chassis as well. - ''Type 99A2'' drawing you refer to is a fake, its a 99A turret stuck onto the 'new light tank' design submitted by 201 Institute, which lost to 617 Institute's submission, the (now) ZTQ-15. This info has been around since 2016. Finally, you posted this video in 2018 but a lot of your sources are very dubious in verification and some are 10 years old if older. This is asking for trouble. I like your videos, I hope my comment is useful to you.
His data is old because there's not a lot of info on it in the first place
哇兄dei可以啊
Where did you find this data?
@@punman5392 we are available to find sources written in Chinese which are either difficult to find or difficult to read for people from other places.
is FY-II realy reverse engineered of Kontakt-5? since China ordered 200 T-80Us for evaluation in late 1993, Research is used for the "Type 96 tank" that Wiki said the 96A equipped with FY-IV??
For those saying "lol China makes shitty military stuff XD" I think it is worth noting that their military industry really starts trying to catch up in 1977 when Deng starts the "Four Modernization", which among its goals is transforming the PLA from a Maoist "People's War" army into a modern army. There's also the fact that China was politically isolated from both sides of the Cold War during the Mao years and any form of military assistance from the West was cut after Tianenmen. The primary source for military tech was Russia, which military industry fell into a coma after the collapse of the USSR, recovering only when Putin came to power. So all things considered, I think they're doing a decent job at modernizing
Also, technological copying has been practiced by EVERY rising Industrial Power. The Japanese did it, the Germans did it, the Americans did it. Every industrializing power does it and someday China will be complaining when someone else industrializes and starts copying Chinese technology/methods.
Good to see humanity policy of copying each other still goes on
Copying something as complex as a tank or aircraft is exceedingly hard and generally doesn't work out. It may be true that it's a bureaucratic requirement rather than an industrial one as attempting to recreate the industrial infrastructure may ultimately be harder than simply working within your means. Essentially the Chinese have had access to Russian turbines for several decades now and my current understanding is that their native turbines still fall well short. Now if some of the smartest minds have worked on it for so long how easy is this 'copying' really?
its even later than that. when Deng came into power, he prioritized the economy over the military, the military actually saw budget cuts all the way into the 80s, many projects were axed after the lost of a single prototype because there was no money to replace it. the military only really started to modernize in the late 80s and really kicked into gear after witnessing the 1991 gulf war
Those who say that know nothing about military stuff themselves. China actually made prototypes for 120mm, 152mm, and 125mm guns. China chose 125mm guns + longer barrel for good reason. (part of it is that 125mm is entirely sufficient to go through western tanks if needed) But people who have very little knowledge automatically think 125mm suck because Iraq.
Take a shot whenever he says "Reverse engineered" LMAO
4 times. wow so many shots /s. What are u a fucking light weight?
@@sihongjiang9809 im dying
HUGE ANIME BREASTS
@@KokoroKatsura gay
I would die.
In war, there are no points for originality!🥊
What about sonar and radar?
Andrew Danvers use it to then
@Blind Squid In war, nobody will remember stupid details such as caliber, date of fabrication, "originality", or anything like that. Only who lived and who didn't.
Pasha Pasovski Yes there are. You get the technology first.
Just compare how bad the weak german tanks did Against t 34 and KV tanks ... The Russian originality had placed them in a far better position when it came to tanks ,when the germans started copying the russians with the panther it was already too late...
No one knows how well these tanks will do in combat. The Chinese haven't been in a major conflict for a long time.
most of their guns are pointed inward
if they don't do well then they will use nuclear bombs, if 10 failed then they shoot 100. LOL
CTO Information and when they get nuked in return?
@@jb76489 you
CTO Information no u
Is it just me or I really like how Chinese tanks looks
It is your opinion so this question makes no sense.
me 2. But I prefer German’s.
@@smalliesmalls9601 Yeah, sure steve
it's a NATO styled turret on a Soviet styled chassis
Looks much better compared to modern russian tanks imo. Challenger tanks are also very good looking.
Type 96 is literally the definition of "Be careful with who you call ugly in school"
Funny when discussing Abrams we don’t say it has reverse engineered German gun and reverse engineered British armor
Jesus F.? The Chinese did too.
License or not, a copy is a copy lmao stop bitching The US made a copy of German 120mm gun just like China made a copy of Russian 125mm
Lena! It's licensed dummy
Dilly Dilly??? What difference does a license make?
Lena! Actually i was wrong, the Abrams gun is entirely different, it can't even be used on a Leopard 2
Your knowledge on tanks is amazing. Really enjoy your videos mate!
I always found it funny when tanks are driving in a straight line particularly on parades and that one tank jerks a bit to the left or right to fix its heading.
Lel sem
"Wang's steering again"
I love such kind of videos really educative and addictive for us people who are into military technology! Good work
Thanks
@@RedEffectChannel why didn,t you made a video on Chinese VT 4,altay,oplot?
@@RedEffectChannel Bro but please show sources other than Russian and Ukrainian
"We didn't even scratch them!"
Galahad "It bounced off!"
"That one bounced!"
"We didn't penetrate their armor"
Ricochet!
"Get out, we're done here!"
so what i am getting from this is that the type 99 will shit on the arjun tank
yes but the taco bell explosive kinda shit if you catch my drift
Bruh any mbt can shit on the arjun
Me : Bro what are you saying Arjun can defeat every tank in the world. Indians : (surprised) really Me : yeah by just sitting on it Audience : hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣😆
There is a mistake in this video. The western media generally thought it was a copy of the Soviet 2A46 tank gun, but the CPC only copied the autoloader of the 2A46. The ZPT-98 was developed by the CPC using Swiss pre-pressed steel technology introduced in the 1980s
New drinking game - take a shot everytime he says "reverse engineered Russian"
Everything in China (not the economy) us reversed engineered Russian
But you only take 5 shots
See Vodka Vodka’s comment and my reply
Your analysis skills are getting better and better. Great work.
Well, concise and thorough. You can't beat this formula. Great video
From a single weapon platform perspective, the type 99A (and even the latest iteration of the type 96) is a competent vehicle. The question is if the PLA has adequate tactics or even doctrine to utilise it.
Bought a type 96 off eBay, 99 cents and free shipping, wasn't too impressed with it
lol
i bet it was a Chinese knockoff
@Timothy Mccarthy for major countries, there's no such a thing called loyalty.
@Timothy Mccarthy u have some very radical opinions
@Timothy Mccarthy and... what does that even imply? Not every country is capacble of reverse engineering highly sophiscated equipment.
Where did you get the protection equivalence for type 96a? The text you shown in 1:30 is about a general principle analysis on composite armor that stated nothing about armor value
Great videos as always
Thanks :)
Hahaha the Wong fei hung theme at the beginning 🤣
I love how this video begin with Wong fei hong fight soundtrack makes me like Wong fei hong.
what's with the "rrrr" in 7:22
CCTV the Chinese official channel confirms the APFSDS used by type 99a has 680mm pen at 2k, and consider Chinese standard is v90, it should has about 700mm pen v50 at 2k.
India's been pretty quiet since this dropped
nah they keep barking in the comments but quietly panic buy from foreign countries
What's the background music please ?
Mikhail Zavarov Darude Sandstorm
Chinese Buffet Restaurant, Song #3
I think you can use their official designations "ZTZ-96/ZTZ-99". And a newer (and cooler) light tank for southern China and Tibet province might be public on October 1 2019.
The "wong fei hong" music was a very tasteful touch. Had my attention. 👍
People can say what they want about the type-99A being just a new turd, but dang is it a good looking tank...
ya should look at the challenger 2
Reality YT Challenger 2 also looks pretty good but I like the inward sloping front turret of the type 99. I also like the track side skirt zig zag thing. And especially the paint the digital camoflague is best part
Looks don’t protect you from the GAU-8/A
Doosh Bagg what does the Gau8 have anything to do with the tank
@@SilverShamrockNovelties active laser will do the job，which all 99A have
As a Chinese looking for this information, thank you so much!
gaggit
How do you feel knowing the chinese can't compete and must reverse engineer? Lmao Paper tiger ccp
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@@KA-vs7nl dude,have you ever seen what China became in just last 30 years! Their cities have greater skyline than the US have, railways, bridges highways and pretty much everything else is better than here!
@@pashapasovski5860 off the backs of millions of innocent people. Their infrastructure doesn't compare to the quality of western infrastructure. All you trolls only focus on bridges lmao, maybe you should get under one now. The west will destroy the ccp, and i cant wait!
Where you get information about armor of Type-99?
I love your videos, considering your extensive research that goes into your videos, I would love to see an alternate history where a second Korean War takes place as a video!
Can you please make a video on these : Altay MBT M60A3 Sabra Bmpt-72 Terminator Leclerc MBTs Arjun MBT I searched for these thru internet, but nothing much showed up. Thanks and keep the good work! Love your work.
Would really like to see the M60A3 Sabra and the Bmpt-72, especially the Sabra since you rarely ever see anyone talking about it.
you don't see Infos about them probably because the respective weapon developers don't want rebels and terrorists find out how to defeat these tanks from google
Or the ASSad babil
@@edwardmsr more because they weren't made by "high profile" countries and/or were made in small numbers
@@miguellopes2452 how are Freance, Turkey, Israel and India not high profile?
Hey Red Effect! I am a youtube user while also being a Chinese video website user, just wondering if that is alright if I upload your video onto that website with, of course, you being the video producer all the way. It is a very interesting topic that is in the debate regarding Chinese tanks, and I wish to share your viewpoints and research as I do find it very valuable!
Because I have already finished the Chinese Subtitles, I am uploading it to that website, it is bilibili.com, and please do give me a yell if you don't want your video to be uploaded onto other websites, I will delete the video immediately as soon as I saw the reply
Great video! Very informative!
Bought a Type99A2 in Taobao, for some reason it came with no markings and the color was different compared to the pictures, shipping came in faster than expected, the quality is nice but it has a weird burnt odor in it
Can you do the same video but for the french ?
Reminds me Of Battlefield 4
lol ya
Yea Those kind of Tanks were in the game
Jack of trade in BF4. 5% bonus armour & speed, really good field of view as well.
I like the Tank Biathlon footage and the interesting graphics from Chinese sources. Subbed.
a lot of "reverse engineered" chinese vehicles/technology are actually licensed copies, for example the J-11, a licensed copy of the SU-27. Of course not always...
Interesting fact, Yugoslavia's M-84 was license-built T-72. Then, via Poland, Yugoslavia got it's hands on 18 of the Warsaw Pact non-export T-72 versions. It reverse-engineered them, improved them and named them M-84A. Both were a stop-gap sollution until the M-90 Vihor was ready. Sadly, the Nationalists were ready before it and Yugoslavia got torn-up before the tank was put into production. After the war, Croatia picked-up the project and developed the M-95 Degman, with improved electrical systems, an improved gun and modern ERA. Sadly, it still remained a Prototype only. It is in fact has better base armor than the T-90 and ZTZ-99.
The biggest thing i think the Chinese are lacking for there work on armoured warfare is that, well for decades they have not really used or been engaged in a massive armoured focused war. they lack recent experience on modern armoured warfare.
HistoryFan476ad Yeah they really do lack real combat experience, nobody knows how good the Chinese crews are at armored warfare. However in the other aspects China is improving at an extremely fast pace right now so I don’t think we should underestimate these vehicles, they are improved versions of the bloody good Russian tanks.
true bro. I'd say they are definitely not well made as the newest m1 and chieftains but they are much cheaper and easy to produce. Which made 99a a really great battle tank
@@potatopotato1639 quantity is a quality of its own. Mass produce a average, decent tank, design give it good air,artillery and logistic support and the infantry. you have got a deadly combination.
@@Historyfan476AD haha true. I meant challenger not chieftain above though😂
@@potatopotato1639 i understood what you mean't be a bit odd putting the chieftain on a 2019 battlefield. great tank but now out of date.
So Abrams could face punch that Type 96 easily. Chinese tanks look kinda cool.
Due to geography, the tanks won't meet. Chinese tanks can't go very far past Chinese boarders till they hit unsuitable terrain and U.S. tanks would have to go through hostile countries to get to China plus the unsuitable terrain.
@@orlock20 You should read about the soviet invasion of Manchuria, absolutely insane war. Massive invasion to destroy Japanese army, specifically the 6th guard tank army movement is incredible. They just blow through the Grand Khingan mountains totally catching the Japanese by surprise, they lost a lot of tanks temporarily due to breakdowns due to the incredibly rough terrain but did manage to make it into the basin far ahead of schedule. But yeah the Abrams would not be able to replicate that in any way unless they redesigned it to be less heavy and use less fuel which its terrible about, cant even cross bridges its so heavy.
@@TheGoodChap this is where AT strykers come into play. BT-5 tanks were only able to do it cause they were light. Abrams wouldn't even be used to land on Manchuria. Utter waste of time. Just like how Russia would use Spurts instead of T-90's.
@@PugilistCactus The strykers are VERY very weak... The US is still trying to figure out a role for the strykers, its well established that the stryker DOES NOT belong in a fight against other tanks, it is a support vehicle pretty powerful and against tanks they get obliterated. Apparently our training doesn't really emphasize this very well. In that situation what do you think the US will use instead of Abrams and Strykers?
@@TheGoodChap Bradly armed with ATGM's like they have for a while now. As far as Island Warfare goes, I'd rather be on Russias side to be honest. 2S25 Spurt-SD is able to be brought in by air and sea.
The intro is a very icon Chinese song used in so much in Chinese action films. I don’t know what he exact name for the song but it is very iconic and it gives me goosebumps when a fight is about to erupt.
wong fei hung theme song
Will you be covering modern tanks from other countries?
2 videos in same week ? are u okay bro ?
Perfectly fine :)))
I'm not sure how reliable this is, but I've heared that during the Sino-Soviet conflict of the 80's, PLA was able to recover a few T-80s that was fighting over a frozen lake, in which they managed to blow up the ice that those tanks were driving on and sunk it into the water... And then Norinco was tasked with basically "make something better than this T-80 we pulled out of the water", and hence the takeoff of the Chinese tank industry. I could be wrong tho
Rather sure it was a t62 and they based most of their later designs off the type 59, though there were some projects that deprived from the captured t 62 Edit: just a guess but you're probably referring to the incident of Zhenbao Island in 1969
Yes I am. Thanks for the info!
Is a t-62 See documentary Mao's cold war EP 2 or 3 (forget which episode) They talk about China war on USA then change their target to Russia
魏臻 you are talking about the battle of 1969. It was captured T-62, and it didn't help that much. What really helped was the T-72 China got from either Iran or Romania (maybe both) during the 1980s (this helped design of chassis, autoloader, etc). However, there are unconfirmed reports of China actually getting several dozen T-80Us during the 1990s
The Soviet has never deployed any T-80s in Asia. It was a T-62 that was captured by PLA in 1969.
I appreciate your presentation.
What is the exacte version of the song in the beginning ? I haven't found this exact mix on youtube, did you make it ?
Mmmmm. Nice video. When we talk about China, whats your oppinion on there export tanks like VT-4?
InfantryGamer42 _ Yes & VT-5 ???!!!
InfantryGamer42 _ TOTAL CRAP.
Jesus F. The Thing That Is Totally CRAP Is M1A2 Abrams. You Know About M1A2's Shortages & Weaknesses I'm Not Here To Tell You About Abrams , But I'm Here To Tell You About T-14. You Didn't Talk About T-14 I Just Want To Talk About It FOR FUN Because I Don't Have Anyone Else To Talk With ! I'm Sure You Don't Know Its Capabilities . You Know Su-57 Has 2 Side-Looking Radars Named N036B With A Range Of 120 Km Against 1 m2 . Interesting To Know T-14 Has The Same AESA Radar !!! An AESA Radar On A Tank ??? You Might Say It's Impossible But The Russians Made It Possible !!! The Only Tanks In The World Which Have Radars Are The Israeli Merkava IV (4) & T-14 Armata . The Radar On Merkava Is Not So Powerful And It's Not AESA But T-14 Has A 5th Gen Fighter Radar !!! Its Afghanit Active Protection System Is The Best APS In The World Which Can Even Prevent An APFSDS At A Speed Of 2500 m/s From Hitting The Tank !!! THIS IS INCREDIBLE !!! It Also Has A Powerful Jamming System For Jamming Enemy Radio & Radar-Guided Anti-Tank Missiles ( I Mean AGM-114 Hellfire ) . In An Animated Video It Showed An AH-64D Apache Fired A Hellfire At It And In The Last Seconds In The Kill Zone The Missile Turned Around ! This Isn't Just A Normal Animation The System Really Has Such Capabilities !!! This System Can Also Detonate Any Mine In Front Or Around The Tank Before The Tank Gets In The Damage Radius !!! T-14 Has A 1500 - 2000 hp Engine Which Will Make It Reach Much More Speed Than Any Existing Tank ( 85-90 Km/h On Road , 33-40 Km/h Offroad ) & Also It Has More Range ! Compared To M1's 120mm Cannon The T-14 Has A 125/152mm Smoothbore Cannon ! The 152mm Cannon In Future Will Destroy Any M1 Abrams Tank With Only 1 Shot !!! Its Cannon Has An Auto-Loader Which Will Make Its Rate Of Fire 10-12 Rnds/min While The Abrams Will Just Reach 5-6 Rnds/min Due To Manual Loading ! And The Turret Is Unmanned !!! Just Wanted To Talk About T-14 !!!
Soviet Union Bro 3 things. #1. The new light chinese tank has a cheap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
Jesus F. Lol buthurt UPD:Abrams is outdated shit, many many times it destroyed by old soviet ATGM's. So 1 KA-52>entire Abrams tanks
From reverse engineer to home grown tank well done China
Yugoslavia with it's M-90 Vihor: One day, they will appreciate Your glory my precious.
Are these tanks (war fare) contains enemies discovering electronic progressive units, early definite destruction of enemy bullets not only quantity, quality armor thickness thanks
Quick tip anywhere not on the turret front or upper front plate has just basic steel armor.
good video, very informative :) and I like how you use your own voice, instead of that cringey robot narrator voice.
Many ppl say that the type 59 and type 69 which exported from China to Iraq suck because the Iraq armour army's terrible performance during the Gulf War. What I m trying to say is that if u have a research on the strategy and tactics that Iraq army used u can understand even M1 or T80 s presence cannot reverse that situation.
Same with turky and their Leo2s. But the 59 and 69 still are outdated as tanks.
Is the Type 90 hull based on the Type 85 or the T-72?
The Chinese always have a very pragmatic mind set. Getting good enough stuff with the budget they have, instead of the best of everything. For a country that won't have any active military threat, its cheap enough while still maintain the deterrence ability. At least they won't have a military industrial complex pulling the strings of the government
That only applies to the army. For the air force and navy, high tech hardware are even more crucial. So currently most of the funds are allocated to navy and airforce while army is a abit neglected.
@@lifeisrough8747 True. Though for countries like China who can't invade anyone, the stake is too high to fight anyone, and risk little to be invaded, they don't really need that many expensive show piece. Just keep up with the research, make good enough stuff with enough quantity and call it a day. Their navy was way too small to do anything so for a country relies on trade they sure need to be good enough at that. Other branches though, meh
Chinese and Russian is Best friend, he can use T90 concept or Armata Concept
They are not that close of friends. It is only superficial friendship performed in the media spotlight. When you actually examine closer you'll realize neither are really that trusting of each other and don't always jump to each other's side when something happens. Everything is done because of self interest.
India brought their newest T-90s to the 2018 tank biathlon games in Russia. Russians are now angry because India lost to China’s low end T-96B in the group competition.
Export stuff
Yeah, this is always the excuse... you buy cheap, superior russian weapons like T-72's and MIG-29's, and once it fails in combat, its just been downgraded export stuff. How about you buy real weapons then?
@@SuperGeronimo999 well its export stuff its dumbto sell your non export variants to other countries.MiG29 is radar can differentiate between enemy and friendly which is pretty helpful.Tbh russian stuff is the mid-range while the NATO stuff is usually the state of the art
Serb MIG-29UB's were training variants without radar, while their MIG-29B's were absolute junk too. They did NOT have IFF or electronic countermeasures. Germany sold their used Leopard 2A4's, outdated, but nothing downgraded here. Meanwhile other countries bought useless T-72's.
@@SuperGeronimo999 welp those outdated leos2A4 at least have a decent chance rather than a hopeless T72 the best export T72 i know is the T72S myanmar used it meanwhile the best russian made T72 is the earlier build T72BM3 as it got frecn thermals before the embargo
What are the different songs you are using in this video? I like them! :)
Can you review the T-90ms?
Chinese tanks like the type 96B look pretty sweet. I love that zig-zag edge of the side skirts and the shape of the turret. But demonstrations of their export models seem to fall far short of anything offered by Russia or the US
Yeah but you fail to mention that these tanks cost half as much as Russian tanks and Almost 4 times less than american tanks. Not to mention manufacturing time is miniscule compared to the Abrams. Yet it offers almost all of the same technology the Russian and American tanks does even if the "quality" is negligably worse. China isnt a pushover nation anymore.
BijiMustardGas1988 that would matter if China had the ability to project their military might outside of Southeast Asia. Their navy and airlift capacity are still primitive.
@@SilverShamrockNovelties true. However as Chinese I really wonder what 99a equipped by PLA with new and heavier armour would perform against Russian and US tanks. Just really curious
@@SilverShamrockNovelties They are improving on that, Y-20s and the new aircraft carrier are proofs of this. They will get there eventually with their current pace of advancement.
Doosh Bagg I wouldn’t call it primitive
Just signed to your channel, very good content! Could you please make a video on the Korean K2 Black Panther, please? It's one of the world's most modern and capable tanks. Maybe compare it with tbe T-90M.
Basically K1 armor design with plenty of added electronics. I don't think Koreans have a good perpetrator or the material for advanced modern composite armor but I don't think they need it. Good enough to engage North Korean tanks.
where did u got these infos？
My question to you Tankers, does it have Heater or Air condition system?
I'm really curious about the 140 mm gun they want to start using
Limited space in the turret. Then again, the Chinese are small people. We should see the Type 99A2-140 within this decade. The XM1A3 could also get an autoloader 140mm, but I hope they take the more accurate 130mm instead. That gun can already knock out any tank currently is service.
Nameless King Thanks I was curious
Turret ring and hull width are something that you can only modify in video games. You can’t get anything with a bigger breech into a turret designed to barely accommodate tiny crewmen and THEN add a larger autoloader AND storage for larger ammunition. It’s fiction.
@@SilverShamrockNovelties You cast a new turret with bigger breach? Or is that too obvious?
They would have to upscale everything. Which is impractical considering weight, profile, and fuel consumption.
The ZTZ-96 medium tank is for rough ground where other tanks such as the Abrams, ZTZ-99A2 and other tanks can't traverse. This kind of terrain makes up a huge part of China. It's supposed to be lighter armor focused on Chemical rounds.
ZTZ-96 is MBT, not medium tank. And it is roughly equal in weight to the T-72B3s used by the Russian Army, and still too heavy for some places. That is why China has developed (and is testing) a new light tank.
@@zhuravl-m2285 True, a second generation MBT hence the weight
Basically, the modern light tank
What is the music in the beginning...can anyone help?
YES FINALLY
7:52 " it hez FY-4 iriyey"
Yeah, it's a new type of armor :p
@@RedEffectChannel no offence but your pronounce is really not so friendly to non-native speaker.
Good to see the chinese are improving on their equipment even though through weird means
..... not sure this actually counts as improvement....I mean on the short time they are keeping up with the Russians But if they don't innovate.... aren't they always just going to stay one generation behind?
I think that is bad to see. I wouldnt like seeing China in the next world war. witch will happen eventually.
Their not really improving, copying something doesn't make it an improvement, It generally means your trying to somewhat keep up by producing a crappy product. Chinese jet Engines for example, are piss poor. even though their copies of Russian Engines. and that's because the Chinese don't know the exact mineral mixes of metals and other things used to make those Engines. that's why China's aerospace Ind, is heavily lacking and is way behind the Russians and the USA when it comes to actually making Engines just as good as the Russians
Chinese donno mineral mix? 😂😁😁😁yeah yeah we know nothing hahaha
Dogmeat1950 Americas rockets were copied from German rockets how the fuck they getting to the moon if copied things are bad?
How come all the examples are the same between all the tanks?
Is there anything in the chinese tanks which is not reverse engineered?
I am waiting War thunder to put these tank in the game !
Well here you go
The 96b and 99a awaits
I want to see it in actual combat. How it functions depends on many factors like training, tactics and the actual mechanical performance. I suspect that it would not fair well.
do you think the chinese are familiar with modern tactics? would they use extremely outdated tactics?
Why are you making difference between HEAT, shaped charge, RPG and ATGM projectiles? They all have the same type of warhead, therefor, same penetration class.
Sorry but the KE protection estimates seem to be a bit off. In a presentation 2 years ago the designers showed that the Type 99A has a KE resistance of 7** mm RHAE and a CE resistance of 1*** mm RHAe.
You can say that the type 96 is a made in china t80
And the 96b is just copied t80u and t80m upgrades
No. It’s much closer to the t72/t90 than the t64/t80
Type 96 does have T72 origins, so it's a "T72 retrofit"
Well, they ARE starting to start production of the T-420 “Rising Sun”, so I think they’ve got the idea of tank design...
A new RedEffect video? Finally! EDIT: It turns out he made another vid yesterday. WEW!
Those chinese ERA block are infernior to russian ones?(k5,relikt) And is cannon on type 99a better than 2a46-1m?(muzzle velocity,accuracy,range)
no shit lol
总之就是很牛逼
wait is he gonna leak information here on ytb??? (worried) '……is reverse engineered russian……' good, good! (relaxed)
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Cheeky
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Quick question : how resilient are the reactive armour boxes Themselves? will they bounce a 12.7 or 20mm shells without exploding?
They will most likely be damaged, but won't explode
It wont as it was proven in Syria
I love the music in background
when i was playing project reality i always used chinese tanks, i really liked them. if they are half as good as they were in-game, in reality they are lethal, i think in future chine will develop lightweight and upganned tanks, after all its the country that risks a conflict whit russia and us .... man id like a video about the south korean and japanise tanks :D and plez cover c1 ariete ))))) ma tank
When I played PR I gunned them down with Russian ATGM's like nothing.
To be fair Armor mechanics in PR is not that realistic
I'd say the tanks looks more like a mix between the chieftain tank and the Abrams. But what do I know, I'm just a brain washed communist.
Na the only reason it looks like those is because of how the ERA was placed on the turret.... all though I quite doubt the resemblance is just a coincidence, but no in the case of the Chally and the Brams that there is Thick and extensive armour, almost indestructible by all modern weapons unlike the ERA Wich might survive a hit but will literally not exist to survive a second.
Looks mean nothing. My cat looks like a panther. But I don’t think she wants to fight one.
Do they have the same reverse speed problems as the Russian tanks or do they manage to go over 15 kilometers per hour?
Do the tanks come with little Red Books ?
RedEffect: "Feel free to correct m"- Abram's tank fanboys: *"REEEEEEEEE"*
Notlistening I’m not finding any pro Abram Fanboys
If it's Chinese made it'll probably fall apart the third time it goes through water .
Chinese military tech is actually really good. Considering that they're an economical powerhouse. They export the trash.
so wait... is it Type96 or ZTZ96??
Another good video.