Challenger 2 TES Megatron - Everything you need to know about latest Challenger 2 variant
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Finally the time has come for me to take a look at some British tanks, and its none other than Megatron, the latest variant of Challenger 2
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2018-Challenger 2 TES Megatron 2019-Abrams SEP Decepticon
Sigh You mean: 2020 Abrams deSEPticon
@@rat_king- So that makes Russian tanks Autobots?
T-14 Prime? Maybe?
@@revolverswitch Nah, its more like... Autoloaders Roll out! @RedEffect
@@SeraphoftheRoundTable Autobots = autoloader so yes Russian are the Autobots
WOW I never knew Megatron will be a Challenger II in the next transformers movie
Racket Rider that would be so lit 😂
It would be interesting if the US military names the next Abrams “Prime”.
And then they had a fight
The M1 Optimus. That has a nice ring to it
Speaking of I would like to see these Transformations in a reboot Soundwave = ACMAT Truck/ Patriot Missile Truck Shockwave = Paladin Self propled gun Starscream = F 35 Lightning with the rest of his copies being F 22 Raptors Cyclonous = Spirit Bomber Warpath = Griffin II Jetfire = SR 72 Darkstar
That would be hilarious
@@2Glm005 Scourge and the Sweeps = F 117 Nighthawk Galvatron = Challenger III
Challenger 2! Putting the 'Tea' in NATO!
"hey Winston we have the most armored tank on the planet but its gun suxs and we wouldn't be able to engage the Russian Armata. What should we do?" "What we always do, Lawrence, *A D D* *M O R E* *A R M O R*
Russia is not an enemy u brainwashed idiot
@Blaz Blaz Sorry but this seems a pretty stupid idea
@@Empriction where did you get from my jooke that I think Russia is enemy of the west?
@@landshippirate7044 Queen-aboo, the English DoD said It won't be able to catch up with the Armata, not me
Ah yes, the Armata. I do love it when people bring it up as if it's this thing that NATO nations are actually going to fight and need to be seriously concerned about, considering the Russians are only procuring about 100 total vehicles of all variants combined because a combination of cost, mechanical problems, and sheer weight made the program inferior to continuing to modernize the T-90.
There is a new Challenger 2 upgrade in the works right now. The Project is called Challenger 2 LEP (Life extension project), but will be called Challenger 2 Mk.2 when in service. There are 2 teams competing for the contract, one led by BAE and the other led by Rheinmetall. They are both offering new electronics, control panels and FCS. They are also offering a Soft kill and Hard Kill APS. Both are said to be expected to offer a new lethality upgrade package as well, Rheinmetall with its L/55A1 and BAE with a new AP round (Probably, unless its making a new gun from scratch), although there are some sources out their saying BAE has also offered the L/55A1 which is strange.
Yeah, but not a lot of information is known about the tank, since, its not final. I wanted to make a video covering the tank I could gather information on.
No, the L/55A1 is the gun used on the new Leopard 2A7s.
Jack Sutton No just no you and your Challenger 2 spam
No u
@@raygunreagan2274 wow you just got fricked up real good
0:34 I'm glad he's got his hazard lights blinking, wouldn't want anyone to get hurt.
HA needs a hi-vis jacket aswell.
ALL HAIL LORD MEGATRON
Absolutely beautiful tank, thank you Red Effect for the video!
Redeffect you absolute madman
Nice video as always, very informative :-)
I'm fairly sure "Megatron" is the name of that specific tank. It's the tank they keep to test all of the new things they want to try. I think I heard David Willey mention this in one of the Tank Museums videos but I can't find which one.
Happy to see it's not just me that understands this, annoy's me no end to see people calling this upgrade Megatron, when it's the name the crew gave to a tank that acts as a test bed.
The real problem with British tanks isn't the armor, gun or mobility, it's numbers. Not enough of them to make a significant difference!
Steve H. Can’t argue with that
@The Stig in Iraq they were part of a coalition of other nations in both Iraq invasions the Brits put a reinforced Armored Division in the field. If they had another war they could barely put one in the field. They couldn't put two in the field today which is my point. 250 tanks by itself wouldn't cut it against a first rate power which Iraq wasn't!
@The Stig Yeah, no... the tanks Russia currently has in service are more than capable of engaging in a peer on peer conflict. China's aren't as good, but still can't be wrote off completely.
@THE STIG Chally 2 is shit when compared to something like the T-90MS
@@thejoke69 no it isn't
The big dish on the roof, reminds me either of a raised pizza pan ya get at a eat out pizza joint, or the little plastic thing they put in the middle of the pizza. when they deliver.
Just to be clear, Megatron is the name of this individual vehicle, which is used to test potential upgrades.
Great tank, but britan needs a challenger 3. something that is more then an upgrade for existing tanks 10/10 name for this variant lol
LOL, have you seen the MoD right now? Out armed forces is so underfunded. CR3 is highly doubtful.
thats very sad to hear i hope the whole "neglecting the military" bullshit will die, the brirish aremd forces are too small.
sounds nerdy and gay just like british accent
Challenger 2 is actually one of the shittest tanks.
Ayy @lil__boi its avgustyn from The legion
Speak of the devil gaijin: adds megatron to war thunder youtube: recommends this video
This thing also comes with a tea table on the turret. Morrale boost + 15
It has boiling vessel for brewing tea morrale boost +15
All British tanks come standard with a kettle and teabags 🇬🇧✌ kzhead.info/sun/adp-j8dufmtoa3A/bejne.html Proof 👆
At one stage the Megatron test tank was fitted with the Challenger 2E 1500 bhp power pack from MTU. This demonstrates the ability of fitting thus as a Chalky upgrade across the fleet.
Transport problems are preferable to vulnerability problems, and some speed is worth sacrificing for increased survivability. Bridges can be strengthened and new routes can be found, or alternative strategies used in those cases, but most of what MBTs are called to do involve taking and holding open ground, either moving rapidly en masse to cross it, or taking up defensive positions in cover to hold it. In reality, any bridge that could withstand two fully laden HGVs parked on it could stand one of these rumbling across it, and that's most of the bridges on main roads in Europe. They might be seriously damaging these bridges in the process, but again, surely that problem is preferable to the alternative.
The tank vulnerable parts are protected with ERA that can RPG-29 bad ATGMs, or basically it can stop SHAPED CHARGE
It's British and doesn't need bridges! It simply absorbs rivers into the tea cooker while it drives along!
it is heavy but the power plant in gun upgrades would go a long way to mitigate a lot of the weight problems alas it probably will not get these upgrades good video usually people end up shiting on this tank because it's made in Britain the video was quite informative and good
Kinda love it. Simple. Effective. HEAVY.
This is a badass looking tank man😳😳😳😳
It is actually megatron in disguise
This thank is BEGGING to become an alt-mode for a future Megatron incarnation
A Challenger 2 Megatron would be awesome that or turn him into a T 90
I suspect that the tank and modular armor pieces will have to be transported separately, and assembled at a Depot behind the front line. As for in-combat use, I don’t know. It could be a major detriment
I'm giving it major points on the name alone!
I am no expert, But believe the rifle gun is more accurate. Yet limited in the amount of shells it can fire and type it can carry. I believe it's not quantity, But quality . A tank thats dam hard to destroy will fight on with its crew. Spend lots on a few. Instead of lots on many is supposedly cheaper. It may not have the biggest motor or gun. But in battle I would sooner be in this knowing the British mentality is to protect the crew and save the tank instead of sending in lots of tanks when a few can do what's necessary in expected modern day conflicts. I think its role today is more reactionary and not tank battles. But should imagine it will hold it's own.
It's either light or well protected ,can't have both yet . The Challenger has proved to be a very tough but to crack !
challenger 2 is the most overpowered looking Tank...all those blocks and stuff
Nice
You just said Megatron then where the hell is Optimus
Great beast
Two things, this tank has been modified to be able to use the challenger 2e’s 1500 horsepower engine and all the upgrades in it can be applied to the new challenger 3 as well.
Engine specification incorrect? 1,500bhp upgraded pack.
Only in the export Challenger 2E which never sold. British Army and Omani Army still use the Perkins
Good review of the Challenger 2. The next upgrade must be to increase the power output of the engine. 1,200 hp is not enough for the tank, the power unit must be capable of at least 1,800 hp to cater for future improvements which always add weight.
The issue is that excessive weight will cause more problems than lower mobility. You see 70+ tons is just too much to cross any bridge and is a nightmare to use roads. At some point there needs to be a cut. Look at M1, they are looking for ways how to modernize the vehicle and save weight.
@@janchovanec8624 well build stronger bridges then. The new variants will have more powerful engines and they NEED that extra armour
@@janchovanec8624 Yeah because paying for that is entirely my responsibility
@@janchovanec8624 and I never said they were NEW engines did I, just upgraded
@@1IbramGaunt You literary said: - "the new variant" (of engines) = the new engines. - "well build stronger bridges then" So not only you mentioned the engines, but you yourself call for an individual to remake all the bridges and infrastructure for 200 odd pieces of equipment that are likely not even in combat shape. You have great difficulties understanding plain English, what is your major malfunction dude? Not only it is insane to expect entire world to condone to your incompetent designs but it is much easier to make a new vehicle that is more suitable to modern battlefield. Nowadays the MBT should have means to detect and counter DRONES just as well as infantry and armour. Rather than relying solely on armour thickness, using other means such as APS (active protective system) could save you 10-15 tons of weight. Unit up to 50 tons with auto loader, perhaps Orlikin auto cannon against DRONES would do great.
F-22 Starscream
is the camouflage green and purple? if so, thats like the only real connection to transformers, in the 90s Megatron got a really big figure with neon green and purple camouflage and he turned into a crudely detailed Abrams tank, a much smaller figure of the same design was released in 2008 with a much more subdued color palette of dark olive and eggplant if the wrap on this tank is imitating those colors, I think that's really cool
Well, this things getting added to war suffer
yay a heavy MBT
Well it IS kinda our strong suit in Britain, literally haha
Heavy tanks back in fashion?
That mobile boiling vessel needed that extra layer of protection. All hail the power of tea.
Challenger: *has a fuck ton of armour* British tank designers: M O R E
*well, chobham gen 2 armour is already effective enough* *SHUT UP SLAP SOME MORE ON IT*
What would happen if a thermobaric explosion happened around it? Even if it was 'buttoned down'.
More protection is always going to mean more weight until there's a big leap in defensive technology .
At least the crew don't worry about those RPG-29 and other ATGMs because of the protection I'm not seeing they need to not worry, I'm just saying they need to be more confident than before.
They are looking at fitting new fuel injection systems to the existing engine to boost power up to 1,500hp.
I'm not sure what they can do about the weight but a new power plant wouldn't go amiss either ideally a new gun would be good to 120mm 50 calibre gun the problem with that is it would require a new REdesign we need to build a new tank in the UK I would probably take design ideas from the new Russian tank quite like that one
god at 4:50 i was so scared seeing the drivers head directly below the moving turret.
if you're too tall you getting fucked by that cannon
Hey the dude's wearing a helmet isn't he
Hey redeffect can you tell how Ukrainian T64BM bulat compares to Russian t72B3? I saw the t64bm in european tank challenge. please make a video about vostok 2018.
@Blaz Blaz same for T-72B3 Old rusty soviet tank with fresh paint and few modifications~
@Blaz Blaz i guess they both from many many million years behind if we compare them with soviet tank industry. And both of them get only worse. Just a phantom of the great beast.
this is why they speak about T-72B3, keep calm guy...
>Revolutionary prject >T-90MS LOL NICE MEMES
There was a clash in the ukraine of a platoon vs a platoon of those tanks and the ukrainian loses were 5 : 1. I read an article including photos etc. about it in a military journal few years ago. It was late eavning and superior night vision of t-72b3 was descisive.
Im okay with this Decepticon
With additional protection comes additional weight...theres no getting around it...Unless you want to keep the crew out of the Turret...like the T-14 Armada..Which is lightly armored compared to Abrams Sep3 and Challenger II ...The crew may be safe....but the tank seems like it can be disabled when hit....Time will tell....🤔
Imagine if in the next movies Megatron just has a British accent.
Challenger 2 megatron *exist* Every bridge : please end my life i cant hold you any more
O man that driver's seat is scary! Looks like your head can be chopped off by the turret at any moment!
Revnge7Fold 5 degree depression stop
single projectile of atgm it needs to cook megatron
Does this challenger 2 has blast doors for it's ammunition in the chassis?
No, but the ammo is in two separate pieces, and only the inert projectiles are kept in the turret (where most of the enemy fire will hit). The explosive propellant is kept in the hull.
Hey, i've been wondering, if the TES upgrade is the same as LEP upgrade?
I dont think so, the LEP upgrade is more recent and slightly different. The TES upgrade was more of a technology demonstrator.
British government: make the tank faster and better Engineers: heh heh chunky boi
On leopard2 its not possible to start the turret when drivers hatch is open. Maybe british likes to cut drivers heads!
lol I thought this was actually one of the Transformers Channels I'm subbed too.
When you talk abt other mbts and how they are without this or missing that, this challenger upgrade seems to have it all. The weight question: true but the British priority is survival and firepower. You gotta bully the battlefield to take more of them down before they can take you down. It’s always been abt the numbers.
As others have pointed out,Megatron is NOT a British Army service tank. It's a test bed for various modernisation/upgrade systems and ideas. It's maintained and crewed by personnel from the ATDU at Bovington Camp.
Yup, 70 tones dose pose a problem for mobility, might be time for RR and MTU to put their heads together and come up with a 2500HP diesel. Or the Brits could design a new tank. 70 ton is getting a bit heavy.
MTU has a 2700 hp engine
They are upgrading the engine and gun soon
have they improved the composite armor on the turret and hull front? or is it just as it was from 1998 when it was first introduced? if the armor composition is same as 20 years ago, it does not stand a chance against modern shells. 600mm LOS effectiveness against KE shells is really not that good any more.
Base armor is still the same as of date of introduction.
I really wished it had the L55 gun, the gunner's thermal imaging system should be 3rd gen like other modern tanks not 2nd gen, the increase in protection for the LFP is very welcome, but as you mentioned, the weight increase is a problem, replacing the engine would've evened things out a little bit.
@@EmperorLionflame sadly no, as far as I know at least, it keeps the original L30A1 rifled gun, which is inadequate against modern threats.
@@EmperorLionflame the L30A1 is 120mm too but it's not a L55, the Abrams' M256 might be a license built L44 but it's fundamentally different, upgrading all Abrams tanks with L55 is uneconomic , and the M829A4 shell should keep the tank competitive enough for a decade or two until a new design is brought out, with the Russians fielding T-90Ms and T-14s already I believe it's better for the UK to start designing a whole new tank to keep up with the others.
@@EmperorLionflame wow there that's a whole lot of wrong info in one comment , ok then mate suit yourself, but please try to leave your UK bias aside in the future, sorry but I can't agree with you at all.
@@EmperorLionflame I'm not biased towards any country, it's just that you're the first to say the Challenger 2 is the best NATO tank, I find that hard to believe, I'm going to assume you're British, that would explain your bias well, the L30A1 isn't the L55 I'm not talking about the caliber they're completely different guns, for starters one is smoothbore and one is rifled they can't be the same gun, the Abrams did use the Chobham armor, but the M256 isn't the same as the L44, redeffect made a video about busting myths regarding the Abrams. you can go look it up, in my opinion the best NATO tank is Leopard-2 in its newest versions, followed by the Abrams, the challenger 2 lacks in fire control systems and mobility quite clearly, the LFP is still under protected and quite a large weak spot, you call yourself an experienced defense analyst, but you don't sound as such, I'm just an amateur, I don't claim to be an expert, but when I see something wrong I will point it out.
@@EmperorLionflame sorry about the L55, I meant the one built by Rheinmetall, should have clarified that, but the challenger 2 still relies on 2nd gen thermals, all other modern tanks use 3rd gen thermals with higher magnification and clarity, even the Russian ones which used to lag behind the west in that tech, the Abrams' rounds have a lot of penetration due to their length therefore high mass which results in a higher muzzle energy despite having less velocity, check the numbers here www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php/Ammunition_Data the LFP is a weak spot in all tanks, but the Challenger's is particularly large, larger than the leopard-2's, that's the problem, as for mobility, it might have been fine before adding additional armor for the LFP, but now it's really a notable issue, the tank is already heavy as it is, and even with the additional armour, it's not enough to deal with the most modern threats, such as Russian 3BM59, let alone the Armata's 3BM70.
i m begin to wonder if challenger II should be considerated as an MBT...i mean, when we look the kind of upgrades he got, it seem he follow the old "infantry tank" doctrine (aka big fat whale with tons of armor everywhere, a gun that is enough for infantry but that sucks against armor)
I Have a Question,Can Challenger 2 Megatron Has a Good Lower plate or Can Block agains Kinetic Round?
Why....? Are you thinking of joining the tank corp.
@@EmperorLionflame could it survive an attack by a fakevirus...? It probably could, I s'pose.
if I had to be in a tank... this'd be it.
Too heavy? Yes. But if it comes down to a tank fight then heavy weight armor and system capabilities is what you want. The British Army ever since Centurion has adopted heavies that can take punishment, stay in the fight longer and bully the battlefield
Exactly. If a war was to break out the UK has allies nearby equipped with the Leclerc or Leo which have the speed and firepower to compliment the Challengers armour. Challenger almost taking punishment and attention allowing the lighter MBTs to get where they need to be at hit them where it hurts. :)
40mm Grenade launcher!
??are you dumb 40mm Grenade Launcher Don't work and penetrate against Main battle tank since they are only Explosive they don't have Molten Penetrator such us missile
@@the.606 and did i says anything about using Grenade launcher against MBT ? Bro, if you don't understand what situation they would use Grenade Launcher on don't just throw tantrum and says ppl dumb, Okay?
Could the outro be louder
These 75 tons ... if they fall on soft ground or mud. The tank becomes a stationary target and then its armor will not help ... Abrams have serious problems with their 65 ton, and here are 10 on top .. unacceptable is this weight.
A tank commanders role is to know the area he's deployed in. It's been a thing to know the area your deployed in for all good and effective leaders. They wouldn't drive them into a swamp plus the wideness of the vehicle the power of the engines usually sees them cruise over most terrain
This has been against iraqi T-72's though, and not an actual live opponent... but there is also a Challenger 2 which got stuck in a ditch and was hit with a dozen RPG's and a MILAN ATGM and survived.
Everyone, but mainly you.
Yeah, but the weight is mainly just tea bags
I am pretty sure i've replied before, but just seen i didn't. Short version: No, they weren't live opponents. They had badly trained crews, no night fire capability, tanks were downgraded export versions or iraqi assembled kits, plus they had outdated ammo, retired by the Soviets dozens of years ago.
Gaijin please add this please :)
Brits will need to transport their tanks and upgrade package separately and mount it back on in field (if possible)
Game Over I mean yeh probably
I know this is a several if not eight month old video but this would redeem the challenger in war thunder if it was given this package we would not have to camp anymore
This guy sounds like Checkov from Star Trek!
GAIJIN PLZ!
"...are you sure we're the good guys?"
To be fair to the British calling it Warpath would make it unsubtle and thats the Autobot tank
So frontal protection is still the same?
No it got increased and the big frontal weakspot has been covered with armour that is the same effectiveness as the turret.
You mean the place just above drivers optics? Where did they put that much armor (i thought that drivers optics were just in front of the turret ring)?
@@alanch90 it's the lower front plate, which never had the Dorchester armour package. But they've installed a new Dorchester plate Infront so the protection equals that of the turret. The optics isn't a massive concern because tanks are rarely so close to each other to be able to aim at specific optics
Oh yeah, you meant the lower hull, that new armor block is clearly visible. But my original question was referring to places like the turret cheeks or upper hull armor modules.
@@alanch90 Ah okay, they are just as strong as normal but they are already pretty much good enough. The Challenger 2 is one of the slowest MBTs around and it's because the tank has kinda way more protection than it needs. So that area is the last place that needs upgrading
Cant wait till germany or the US make an optimus prime variant of their tank
I thought they were going to get rid of the rifled barrel and buy the German leopard 2 gun?
You need to watch and read stuff, just look up challenger 2 2019 upgrade
40mm belt fed grenade launcher
didn't know Megatron was real and turned into a challenger 2
Rhienmettal are testing an 130mm gun on a challenger2 chassis
Who named this thing?
Micheal Bay's millitary tank designer brother
Smoking Kills lmao xD
I named it.. I was the Troop Leader at ATDU. I told my blokes one morning on the Tank Park and the next thing I knew they were away getting decals made.. great blokes great times. I should of copy written it.
I even had the first model made of Megatron. It was amazing.
You're incorrect. Chally 2 would never be fielded without additional armour.
is it true they call this bew challenger variant the megatron and can it determinate it's enemies or just it self😝 because it looks like slow cumbersom and very easily destroiable with infantry weapons, so qustion raises do anything at all with it ( maybe stational pilbox witth suicide troops😀 i think it's high time to "grate" britain buy some modern tabks. i hope o was not too mean but this is my first impression. so good luck you need it. imagine one cjallenger go against one T-15 armata. armata eat it for snck and stil hungry.
No it can do 90mph now and it got the longest tank kill of all time
Paul Brewer Challenger 1 got longest kill
Dunno about the 90mph part lol, more like 40 on a good day with a following wind 😂 it's a damn good tank but it's not winning any races anytime soon (and I AM British myself and very proud of this tank)
@@1IbramGaunt Try 45mph on roads when no one is looking................
@@thewomble1509 well that was probably before all this add-on armour mind
At the 2:20 mark, the high tech system bombards the enemy cell phones with continuous 900 number spam texts for phone sex.
Is the challenger 2 better than the leopard a7?
Define 'better'. If you go by the usual triangle of protection, firepower and mobility, the Leopard 2A7 is far superior.
So the only thing unique about the challenger2 is only a crap ton of composite armor?
Again, define 'unique'. It is 'unique' in some aspects, but most are negative. Such as the rifled gun, a steel-only lower front plate (if no addon armor is added) and no seperated ammunition compartments with blowout panels.
Jonny the leo is imo the best optimised mbt along with abrams. a perfect balance between the triangle. however challenger is more specialised being the armor is still the best at the cost of speed. which still 56kph isnt slow
Not even close.
The British should've taken part in the "Leopard 3" Project (I know it's not gonna be called Leopard 3, but I will call it that and noone can stop me) with Germany and France.
Rohrkrepierer but that would've been sold to other countries (India or someone else) and Britain is gonna want to keep using top secret CHOBAM armor for while so it would be pointless.
Chobham is far from "Secret" to most NATO nations anyway. The MOD is just refusing to upgrade to budgetary reasons. It's also why the TES Megatron is only installed should the Challenger go to war, and not right now.
Since their AFV industry is practically dead at this point and they can't even develop a IFV on their own anymore, i think they are considering to join the MGCS project. But only as a customer, they really can't contribute anything (except a boiling vessel maybe).
What’s the point. The US already sold the British secrets to Europe. The Leclerc and leopard 2A4-6 are mostly British engineering legacy anyway.
@@jonny2954 BAE systems is one of the largest military manufacturing companies in the World Jonny...........
i think the TES/OES get 1500 HP engines not 1200
His head ain't half close to the turret eh
I’d just like to say, “megatron” is the namw dor the specific tank being used as a test bed, not the general name for the upgrade UPGRADE THAT FUCKING ENGINE DAMMIT
Brtish must change their main gun.........
Megatron shows the theatre entry standard it’s exactly the same tank The tank does not have explosive reactive armour It’s currently undergoing a upgrade
actually thats not correct,british finally give up on their rifled gun cannons and try to change to smothbore. source:military news...
Interestingly the British have a lack of generation 3 night vision and thermal imaging that the Abrams SEP V3 and T-14 Armata both employ. Obviously the British don't spend nearly as much on defense as both the United States and Russia, but I do think that they should focus on future-proofing their current generation with better optics and the like.
British need to suck it up, their empire is gone, time to deal with it.
The M1A1&A2 Abrams thermal imaging was 1st generation and awful - it needed upgrading.
We actually are looking into it. One our challengers was outfitted with 3rd gen optics from BAE. You might have heard of it black night
agt155 and it was upgraded in the SEP v2
Spending all the money on the RAF and RN
They forgot abaut lego blocks
i just hear gugaguchu