Challenger 3 The Best From NATO

Pretty sure a battalion of those Challenger 3s could not even stand a chance in a fight to one of those beasts...

Arjun is a crap tank

@@HabszStadT arjun is a bad tank

@@bumhole275 sarcasm mate

HAHAHHAHAHA

Collab?

@@bruhmania7359 be great if they did do!

Matsimus it's actually nowhere near as good a video as it should be, I normally really like Red Effect's videos but he doesn't seem to have done nearly enough research before making this one- the Challenger 3 WILL have an APS system for example, and it's already been officially said several times that it's going to, and long before this video came out! And the engine's gonna be considerably upgraded from the old one too, at least 1,600 bhp! I doubt it'll do 60mph but it'll definitely still be faster

no

You da best of all time Matsimus!!!!

ukdefencejournal.org.uk/shields-icarus-project-provide-british-army-vehicles-active-protection-system/

@@MrTangolizard that was in 2017 and probably was relevant to the Chally2 TES. No mentions of Chally3

It looks like T-90 or T-90A

@@TamamoF0X it’s ongoing the idea is to put it on all British armoured vehicles it’s not designed for one vehicle

@@TamamoF0X euro-sd.com/2020/07/articles/17806/uk-moves-ahead-on-active-protection-systems-aps/

Nop, you are late.

Wassup brother

@@mig8287 sup man? I wish Papa Putin stopped his Sukhoi bias.

Yo, how's it feel to know that your parent and Sukhoi are merging?

@@babypanda2924 It's going to be ages before we'll ever see a new jet from either again.

Plus given how flat the turret sides are you can be sure they have already planned the mounting points

@@Exospray that and on BAE's "Black Knight" tech demonstrator it already had an Iron Fist APS system fitted

They have decided on the trophy now

You think they were trying to get their beer back to base and keep it cold?

Must have been a Scouse battalion...

I think they had run out of tea and needed more supplies

@@efsthecrazy Makes sense, I'd rush back to base aswell xD

If true very impressed. Outstanding vehicle

🤣😂🤣😂

Lmao 🤣

With one shot

Well let’s consider this. Can the Arjun even equal anything the challenger 2 has done? Correct answer ……. NO. Well from this, if you only improve accuracy from the Challenger 2 to the new tank, then Arjun is dead before it tries to fight.

The Korean K2 is now the best tank in the world lol

Smooth bore's basically peefected now. But I'm sure you're just being sarcastic.

*cries in the LFP being 80mm thick*

@@jackseaward2330 not an issue

@@jackseaward2330 try Googling the words "Challenger 2 - Theatre Entry Standard"

@@1IbramGaunt That armour only triples the base armour.....maybe follow your own advice??

@@EmperorLionflame No it's really not. Like I said above, it only triples the base armour of the tank (80mm) and on top of that it only meant to stop shaped charges from RPGs and ATGMs and not APFSDS.

Luckily it‘s only a temporary upgrade for the tanks deployed with the VJTF until a more integrated upgrade will be introduced for the entire fleet.

Lol, you obviously have no idea about the Leo's strengths... it's fire control systems and optics are very probebly better then those of the Armata T-14.

@@para-tanker I know everything about Leopard 2! After all, It's my most favorite tank ;)

@@Mgaming61 it's about who hits the quickest. You could have a '21 platform, but if it's fcs are crap you would lose to an "80's MBT. Those germans are superior when it comes to enginering, that's a fact.

@@para-tanker I know :)

Lol

M60TM is old like T55

@@signs80 no shit. The Olifant is a Centurion

@@d3203 he said m60tm

@@signs80 the M60TM is a relatively modern tank. 2nd Generation Gunners and Commanders Thermal Sights, hardkill APS, modern FCS, new engine, modern ERA, RCWS, 120mm smoothbore gun

@@bruensal7182 the sabra not that good but still is a modernized m60 which means ok

They also tested trophy (thats the one the merkava 4 uses) and some kind of laser APS on the challenger 3

So for once they are actually upgrading an engine of an armored vehicle. For some reason they've always been hesitant to do so.

@@Jonathan-fb1kj I think the simple reason is the fact that the engine was still based on the goddamn Leyland engine the original chieftain had which basically is asking it to fail once it exceeds 1200 hp. Now that they are actually removing the damn thing and upgrading to the MTU Ka-501 engine they finally can actually get 1500+ hp

That's good and very important, can you source the 1600 figure?

@@jwadaow it looks they backed down on the engine upgrade again lmao they are saying 1200 hp again. I dont know when they would make up their mind.

@@123asap6 Welcome to the British government, indecisive as always

where the fuck did you find that?

@@quentinspaeth1757 Wikipedia lmao

This is an amazing claim by you. But here's an Even more Extraordinary Claim by a 5 star General on social media ( during a comment war ) He said: Quote "Iron Dome is way more protected than that stupid dish washing machine S 400 and who said Iron Dome has 70KM range? You watching Russian propaganda LOL the Iron dome has 500+KM range and the S-400 only has 400 and the Iron dome missile is stronger and it can shoot more missiles at once, Russia mocked US for buying the Iron dome LOL Russia is scared of Iron dome because its better and the best there are no comparison between S-400 and Iron dome because Iron dome totally shits on the S-400" Quote Behold the most broken Comment i have ever heard!

@@Justineexy Damn, that is an extraordinary claim lol

@@icepic8719 I know right, I was speechless...😂 Fun fact, I provided him with links to Rafael's Website, the company that designs and makes Iron Dome is Rafael but somehow he still manages believe Rafael ( A ISRAELI COMPANY ) to be Russian propaganda!

thats a long way away

Hope u never meet a kornet

Good luck brother 🙏 (in a good way)

@@smolcat7896 I wouldn’t mind a cornetto!

@@edward.m.r4390 thank you my man, good luck to you in whatever you may be doing in your life

Atleast it's getting a better engine. The Brits seem very stubborn where powerpacks are concerned. The Ariete and the B2 centauro working together are surely a force to be reckoned with.

italy is interested in the challenger 3 so they are thinking of buying some, so is spain

@@thefirstsurvivor7240 Link?

@@thefirstsurvivor7240 false. We are upgrading our ariete mbt, and looking to develop a new one for 2035, possibly with Poland or GB. We are also trying, in alternative, to enter in the german/france next generation mbt developement

@@Ale-to3fv lets hope it didnt end up like the navy

Ah yes the Challenger A30

Took me a while to get it lmao

one of the causes of unreliability in engines is often overheating, perhaps the new cooling system is able to overcome that issue. the challenger 2 LEP was supposed also get a rail fuel enjector and cooling system which would bring its hp to 1600. i would not be suprised if these are also done to the challenger 3.

The article on the webside of the MoD says 60 kph.

@@hjalmar4565 does it that's more believable im guessing the 60 mph was a typo

@@lonewanderer5515 This is the link: www.gov.uk/government/news/british-army-to-possess-most-lethal-tank-in-europe

@@hjalmar4565 cheers 👍

@@lonewanderer5515 it’s most likely that they mean the engine can handle 60mph before the engine sustains damage from the speeds

why good sir, that's because HESH is the best ammunition to ever be invented and if you disagree you are just another victim of blatant "American" propaganda

@@daspeed198 That's why Arjun is the best! lol

@@daspeed198 I like Brits but there was some stupid Nationalists around saying that indeed HESH was superior. Now that the British Army uses smoothbore too, they are all like 🤡

@@daspeed198 HESH is so godlike and powerful you dont need a direct hit do obliterate your enemies

@@UserPendingDeletion idk man, sounds like you've been indoctrinated by the yanks

it gets Trophy there was one unveiled at DSEI 2021

I could definitely see the original M1 hitting 60mph+, weighing only 55t and powered by 1500hp and 5000 ft-lbs of torque, the speed potential certainly added up. Heavy and underpowered Chally tho? Not so much.

​​@@GeneralLee131 That was in trials without the governor of course. 🤗

@@komradearti9935 what the hell are you talking about? TES would definitely be fitted during "a large scale war", that's what it's bloody FOR lol! Additional protection greater than what's considered necessary during peacetime, and in particular for when going into high-threat environments like the urban warfare in Iraq! And when it IS fitted, that's a solid block of the same Dorchester composite armour as on the turret front, it'll stop anything up to and including a direct hit by 120mm APFSDS. As for "chieftain heritage" the only thing Challenger 3 has in common with Chieftain at this point is a name starting with "C" lol, and as for MBT-80 sure it might have been better but outside of games of War Thunder we'll never know now, that's a discarded prototype whereas the Challenger series is the tank we actually have, gotta just make the most of it

@@komradearti9935 I know perfectly well what I'm talking about 'Komrade', maybe you should study a little harder before trying to lecture me on the subject, TES will stop virtually anything thrown at it kinetic or otherwise

Of course their is an Rheinmetall APS. AMAP-ADS!

I know right, I'm actually genuinely disappointed in Red Effect here, he really doesn't seem to have done his research first properly on this one

@@1IbramGaunt Surprise, surprise.

I miss that good ol' Arjun

Are u indian?Cuz you use too much emojis

@@LOL-cv9it 🤣 jk no I'm not Indian just abusive fan of the arjun obviously it makes me wan't to ❤🧡💜💛💜💜🧡💜💖💜💗❣💗🙈🤎🙈❣💗🖤🖤💗🖤🧡🖤💗💙💗💙

The CV12-8A fitted to the “royal engineers variant” runs at 1200hp.

@@HJDore I believe the hydraulic fan cooling packs have a fan disconnect which effectively gives them an extra 100 bhp for short bursts. People pay way too much attention to rated bhp figures. For example leopard 2's cooling fans consume 20% of its engine power compared to CR2's 8%.

Mph

@@joshthemigpro1733 the Mph sounds like complete Bullshit

@@raff257 claiming its a typo on a major annoucement sounds bullshit. Especially when it basically currently does 60kph and is a highlighted as a big improvement.

@@davidhouseman4328 It's not possible lmao, you wait and see. It's physically impossible it will do 60mp/h with with the same engine, transmission and more mass.

He missed out basic details that can be found on the manufactures website and other articles. rbsl.com/assets/news-images/RBSL-infographic---Challenger-2-vs-Challenger-3-(1)-1620408197.pdf

The powerpack upgrade is only the new cooling, still 1200hp.

@@Jonathan-js3vi nope, engine's been upgraded too, increased to 1600bhp

@@1IbramGaunt I'm actually really confused at this point. wikipedia mentions a 1600hp engine, I remember the presentation mentioning it as well. However, army mod uk doesn't mention an upgrade to the engine at all. The speed given also only makes sense if they mean 60 KPH. The Tank got heavier, but the improved cooling allowed it to keep it's max speed. But if it really got 400 extra hp, you would expect it's top speed to go into the 70s or maybe 80s, which fits neither 60 KPH nor 60 MPH. So yeah, for now I don't see it having a 1600 HP engine. Unless we discard the 60 MPH/KPH as bogus info, in which case good job with the presentation guys.

@@poccer7722 the engine's gonna be upgraded, trust me, regardless of whether the MOD are actually officially saying so yet. It'd be stupid to upgrade or replace or improve just about everything else (and increase the already-heavy weight) and leave the engine the exact same, especially since the underpowered engine was one of the main problems the Challenger 2 had in the first place

@@poccer7722 as for the speed thing just ignore the 60mph/100kph thing, that was clearly a mistake or typo or exaggeration. The tank will probably just do a little better than the CR2 in that department, say about 40mph on a good day on roads and maybe 20 over rough ground, which isn't exactly racing car quick I know lol but what do you expect with a 70-ton tank, and it's still better than before and enough to get the job done

I mean it’s been in service for almost 30years and is yet to be killed so I think it’s not

That weak lower front allows it to have a much stronger upper plate. On the Leo and Abrams it's reversed.

What are the chances shells hitting it anyway, tanks will fire center mass so it's not a big deal

@@Jin-1337 eventually enemies will find out about the weakness and target it i mean its easier to hit than the upper armor

@@Jin-1337 that's very near to center mass. Considering it's a massive profile on the hull I wouldn't be surprised if it often did catch a dart

The true national anthem

Nope, you're quite right

Not many where actually made or actually deployed in active combat.

whats your definition of disabled? because disabled means mobility kill, firepower kill, mission kill or destructive kill

Didnt one get penned by a soviet era rpg and cost the driver his leg

@@overlord4404 only in one specific part of the Challenger 2's armour, the front lower plate, and while the tank was driving up a ramp (well known as a weak-spot in the armour, but one that has since been corrected with extra armour as part of the Theatre Entry Standard kit). Other Challenger 2's stood up to multiple RPG hits without difficulty though, in one case a Challenger 2 sustained 14 hits by RPG's and at least one from an ATGM, and another actually sustained 70 separate RPG hits, and both came out of it just fine

@@1IbramGaunt With RPGs made from the mid-1950s and early 1960s with minimum ability to penetrate armor. They were not Kornet DM missiles that were 152.4 millimeters in calibers with tandam-shaped charges and advanced sensors and destination modes and capabilities. There were missiles with less than 500 millimeters of penetration. Compared to Kornet DM with over 350 percent greater penetration and no its 82 millimeters early 1960s RPG unguided missile.

Actually the photo at 2:19 said it was going to receive an active protection. It's possible that he just missed it though.

@@thatguykeelan1753 I missed that photo too then in the video😂

what?

What the hell

@@cheese5331 Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down, never gonna turn around and hurt you! (except for the one time where friendly fire took out a challenger 2)

1600bhp engine with LWR from what the Brits said

@@icepic8719 yes. I just want to be sure. I’ll give it a quick look online and provide any sources I use :)

@@realmealdeal1999 it's actually on Wikipedia recently

@@icepic8719 I personally wouldn’t use Wikipedia but the other articles do confirm this change :)

@@realmealdeal1999 I guess, but I doubt it would go 60mph on 1200hp engine lol

nope, your wrong. its getting the same type of engine (CV-12 8A), seen in the titans, trojans etc. However its not the exact same, it has a few differances. CV-12 common rail will NOT be happening. At least on the perkins CV-12, whether they go onto MTU's Europack is a different question.

@@tankdriver65861 CV9A uprated turbos and mechanical fan cooling, CV8A has hydraulic fan pack which is not suitable without replacing rear of tank to incorporate louvered section as per T2 and unwanted increase in weight. Common rail not suited to fuel system as bacteria and fungus seems to grow in fuel bags, this is made worse by bio-diesel !

@@peterwait641 the turbos aren’t really uprated they are a little bit different, but not much, yes the pack is getting the cooling changes which will help, but the main difference with 9A is the inlet manifold

@@tankdriver65861 the new imh merely reduces smoke on cold starts as is just heating elements.

@@peterwait641 Yh, I know, I’ve tested the 9A, the 9A is just an Army stopgap, realistically they want a common engine across all platforms, the only thing the 9A brings to the table which the 6A doesn’t is a better torque rating at lower RPM’s. But that’s really about it. Either way, we need a common rail CV-12 but it’s not gonna happen any time soon

And by the Germans too, joint project

Did you forgot to put sarcasm tag? "They decided to buy British.Challenger 3 will be produced by Rheinmetall". It is challenger 2 hull with leopard 2 turret. Mod specified "Fully digital turret system" is propably achieved with digital camo pattern and someones niece installing discord server on it. /s

@@TuubiName It is a Challenger 3 turret, a newly made turret and in this case the division of Rheinmetall has been merged with BAE so the technology can remain in-house with Britain. The reason for that is there will be a future tank project which will involve the expertise gathered among different partners. Likely a multinational armoured-vehicle project. The alternative was to procure Leopard but instead they chose to develop technology and go with this approach looking towards getting a bigger part of the potential future project.

I know the joke but even 2a4 can outclass that tank

@@soto1649 If you know the joke, why don't you go along with it :(

No, there is definitely not composite armor behind the periscope, there is Oy the turret ring, which is the most vulnerable part of a tank. There is not even any space for composite armor in that spot since thats where the turret ring is.

we do the engines at work mate, and a lot of us were under the impression that it would get the Europack, I think it would be better. But its gonna be an engine similar to the 8A

arjun tank is the best tank lol

@@drsm7947 Are you dumb? The Bob Semple is by far the best.

@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 no no. You are completely wrong again, we all know that the best tank belongs to world renown designer Leonardo Da Vinci and his tank that has the capabilities at firing at all directions!

@@TheAmericanLarper hahaha😂, i totally forgot about that. You are right.

No it hasn't. Only the infrastructure to support APS has been added to the tank. APS was not part of the initial LEP program.

@@jackseaward2330 I suggest you go to the British Army and their official website then, as they're saying with their info that you're full of shit.

@@CabbageBloke That the same one that say's it can go 60 mph?

@@jackseaward2330 Red Effect got the power output wrong and the engine upgrades it is getting. Direct Injection and upgraded cooling.

No it’s not. HAAIP concluded with the decision to use the CV12-8A but being it up to a 9A standard.

If only the T-14 was good for anything other than parades

@@spacemarinesruleall хахахахахаха you Joke me?

@@spacemarinesruleall well, T-14 is more like a demostrator.... No decent amounts are comming as they lack funds...

Hell, even I'm better than Challenger 3, and I'm a base model T-90A

Meaning.

nice xD