"What is the Kaaba? Perspectives from the Early Islamic Period," by Sean Anthony

Qibla used to be Jerusalem. Muhammad changed it to Kaabaa to try and make Islam unique

The Ka'aba was unknown to Jews and Christians until the 9th century, after it became important to Islam. It is never mentioned in any writings either religious or secular prior to then. So no, Jews and Christians never knew of the Kaaba. Only the Arab pagans of the region placed any significance in the area. History and archaeology resoundingly disproves this claim by Islam. The parallels you are attempting to draw are simply forced and obviously erroneous.

1. The burning bush event was in Midyan near mount Horeb or Sinai. 2. Moses took the elders of Israel to Horeb in Midyan( now in Saudi Arabia). 3. Therefore the whole tribe was there in the vicinity of Ka'aba. Hence the phylactery.

The Jews knew the Ka'aba Ka'aba well before the 9th century. The were in Medina before the coming of prophet Muhammad.

@@shehuusmanhassan1166 Quran 2:144 refers to the change of the qibla from praying towards Jerusalem with the Jews to Muslims uniquely praying towards the shrine in Mecca. The Jews kept praying towards Jerusalem. This cannot be taken as evidence that the Jews thought of the Meccan kaaba as an originally Abrahamic site. Strike one. The phylacteries which Jews wear are not models of the kaaba. They contain texts of the Torah and have no kaaba-related meaning for them. Just because two objects happen to be cubes doesn’t mean one of them is a model of the other and derives its meaning from it. The cube is a basic geometric shape. It’s not surprising different groups utilized it for different purposes across history. Strike two. Psalm 84 refers to a pilgrimage made towards Jerusalem. Baka does not refer to Mecca. It refers to a place on the way of making pilgrimage to Jerusalem while they are weeping. That’s what the name Baka (בּכא) means - weeping, which also explains the imagery in the verse of “making it a place of springs” by their weeping and “the autumn rains also covering it with pools.” The psalm also explicitly mentions in verse 7 (the VERY NEXT VERSE after the verses you cited) that it’s talking about them making pilgrimage to Zion. Zion is another name for Jerusalem. It’s used all over the Bible in reference to Jerusalem. The “house” and “dwelling place” and “courts of Yahweh” referred to in the psalm clearly refer to the Temple in Jerusalem, as in the rest of the Bible. It has nothing to do with Mecca or the kaaba. Islam doesn’t even portray the kaaba as God’s “dwelling place” or “courts.” So you’re going to ignore these titles of the building in the psalm and only focus on “house”? Is that good exegesis? Strike three. Horeb/Sinai are in the SINAI peninsula. Midian is east of the Gulf of Aqaba. This is nowhere near Mecca. Look at the map. Lol for you to say “therefore the whole tribe was there in the vicinity of the kaaba” is just laughable and ridiculous. Strike four. Honestly my friend if your belief system forces you to try to shove puzzle pieces where they don’t fit, and to ignore true context and make up your own context, you need to rethink your belief system. I have not seen people distort history and distort religious texts for their biased purposes more than Muslims.

@@shehuusmanhassan1166remember that the Islamic pilgrimage to the kaaba in Mecca is not the only pilgrimage that’s existed in human history. Also recognize that it was pagans who were performing the hajj every year before Muhammad appropriated it for his new religious movement. Not only did Muhammad continue the pilgrimage that the pagans were doing at that location, but he also continued all the same practices associated with it that the pagans were doing. And this is according to classical Muslim scholars. Do you really think pagans perfectly preserved all these practices for thousands of years all the way back to Abraham? I think it’s much more likely that the historical Abraham had nothing to do with the kaaba or the pilgrimage to it, that it didn’t even exist at Abraham’s time, as the account of Abraham’s life in the Bible and in all Jewish and Christian literature after the Bible, his life journey took him from Ur (in modern day Iraq) to the land of Canaan, to Egypt, and back to Canaan. And sometime later pagans erected a shrine in Mecca when a meteorite fell from the sky. Pagans in the ancient world tended to erect shrines where meteorites fell to the earth, seeing it as the gods coming down to them in some sense. The kaaba in Mecca wasn’t even the only kaaba in Arabia during Muhammad’s time. It just happened to be the shrine at his hometown. And Muhammad wanted to make his hometown monotheistic, and so he invented some new history and projected Abraham onto the Kaaba. And applied all the practices of hajj to his new religion. And the only difference is he made it all about one god instead of many. That’s the only difference. He even kissed the black stone as the pagans did. You really think the pagans perfectly preserved these traditions since the time of Abraham?

One of the biggest smokescreen is the steering of the argument to whether muslims "worship the kaaba". The kaaba only has sacred value because of what is inside the kaaba. It is what lives in the kaaba (Allah's house) is what muslims are bowing down to. The black stone is allah.

Now look at it and it’s prayed to… it’s going to come aliveeee ahhhhh

'different imaginative potential and technical skill' you clearly have no idea about what early Muslims achieved. The difference is not what potential they had but they were required to preserve their dimensions of the Kaaba as it was directed to Abraham. Hope that makes sense.

Muslim did not worship Kaabah

@@anaskpalmalaki8804 So they are just stupid to do a ritualistic revolution around it ?

@@anaskpalmalaki8804 did not? when and at point point in time did they start to worship?

Okay, then show me one Idol worshipper who climbs upon their God's Idol or gets inside it..

@@mylikes5942 Why would you want to do that ? Are you really this stupid or part of some social experiment to test how people would react when you showcase irrationality?

Well Mohammed said he was okay with the intersession but jibril said that wasn’t a part of the plan. Yeah Catholics are also satanic 😂

Kaaba is still a place of paganism

But they didn't keep the Pagan Gods and idols like muslims keep al-lah, Jinn & black stone 🕋

@holyleague8286 I guess the arabic christians are praying to a false God since they call their God Allah? 😂 No one prays to Jinns. 😂 that's like saying priest who heal possessed people worship demons. again, you struggle with different languages as if the pope doesn't speak Latin. And if the black stone was removed, it wouldn't change islam in any way. And lastly, Go to Rome, there are carvings of pagan deities in every holy site in Rome. 😂

@@TheJackfd81 I'm not sure how muslims can be pagans having 1 God and all. But it's clear you christians are pagans with your 3 gods 🤷🏻‍♂️

Not only meteor or a *stone* worship, but also pagan, idol worship. Do we have to do than in this day and age. Of course it was ok for the 7th Centuray.

What’s bad is how badly they treat ‘pagans’ whilst climbing over each other to kiss a stone. It’s so hypocritical.

@@beefymario88 That is a good one 👍👍👍🙏. Hope YT won't hide this thread too

@@beefymario88Muslims don’t believe the kaaba has power and authority itself, whereas pagans literally ask statues for help. It’s just a sacred building. Muslims believe the wearing of amulets is shirk, whereas Christians wear the cross for protection against evil. Really dumb arguments here.

No its just an ordinary stone. Black stone was a symbol for the sun god Elagabalus in Roman Syria.

Sean Anthony is a historian, not an ignorant.

@@arusirham3761 Being a historian, even if he is a professor of history in harvard and oxford and....., does not mean that he is not ignorant in islam, and very big one

@@samirhachad643 I assume you are a muslim, and yeah it is very common for an average muslim to judge any non muslim talking about Islam from a critical historical perspective as ignorant.

@@arusirham3761 making up things without any proof is not "critical historical perspective"

​@@samirhachad643 'Made up things'? Like every Muslim source on Mohammad written well over a century after he died by men..