Trapped with a Serial Killer
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0:00 Introduction
2:50 INSIDE THE MIND OF A SERIAL KILLER
4:28 THINKING LIKE A SERIAL KILLER
9:50 WHY PEOPLE LOVE SERIAL KILLERS
13:30 EMPATHY FOR THE VICTIMS
14:11 PURE EVIL OR SOMETHING MORE?
18:35 LIFE BEYOND
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Are you able to do a video that interviews Native people? And about the history behind them and the residential schools? As a Native person, I think it doesn’t get enough recognition. :(
You should do”I spent a day with someone with depression”
Dont look at my name
@@dontreadprofilephoto1728 bro
"Because sometimes existing is exhausting" I love this sentence
Dont read my name tho😑
@@dontreadprofilephoto1728 aight
True
It is what got me to subscribe even before watching the very first video
Everyone finds my existence annoying
the fact that someone took their own life after hearing those tapes is terrifying
I can’t imagine the families hearing that their daughters were put through something so horrible that the *detective of their case* took his own life after hearing their pain. Just *hearing* it.
To be fair I'd assume he was already broken by the job, mentally unwell, or something prior. Plenty of people have heard or seen unreasonably horrifying things on the internet and were just fine afterwards, but maybe the connection to the case would play a role? Not quite sure how though.
I can't imagine the horrible pain of those women.
I absolutely cannot image what might have been in those tapes and i don't want to imagine it either, the horror that those women must have felt, the fact that a detective! Who probably hears stuff like that, took his own life, after JUST listening to those tapes
I read the transcripts and they messed me up. Would never want to hear those tapes
A detective taking his life over a tape is absolutely horrifying.
After I seen the Funky town video I went to a very dark place. I regret watching it. I could understand how someone could give up on life after shit like that.
I think that's why people should have strong mental health Your body can defend against a lion but not against itself
Scary so sad😰
@@stephaniemarie2742 oh my god I hope you're doing okay now. I thankfully have never even seen an image of it but I have come across a description of the video and that already made me sick to my stomach.
@@stephaniemarie2742 The description alone sounds insane. Hope you're able to forget the visuals. 3 guys 1 hammer was enough for me to not want to see gore vids anymore.
When she said the detective killed himself over the tape… it shook me to my core. My boyfriend is working his way for that type of job…. You can’t unsee these things they have to see. I really pray for all the detectives out there risking their saintly for solving horrific murders.
Best of luck to your boyfriend! I’ll be sure to keep him in my prayers
Knowing nothing about this field but knowing a lot about mental health from experience, I reccomend therapy. For him and you. As soon as possible, find someone you like and feel comfortable with and meet regularly (weekly, monthly, whatever he needs), so you know they are always there. It can be a really strong safety net and support. Best of luck to you both.
The transcripts are avaible read em and u eill understand why those tape can bring someone to suicide
@@whitflores8160 I agree. Even just taking a genocide studies course in college had me messed up mentally, because there was graphic imagery and video of men, women, children being murdered and abused. Therapy for the win
I heard that and just imagined something like brutal screaming. It just popped into my head, and my whole body started hurting, but like a muffled hurt. Faded. Like I was imagining what those women went through, although they went through absolute hell and I clearly have not listened to the tape, I just felt the tiniest inkling of what happened, and even that kinda fucked with me. Just an _inkling._ No wonder that detective killed himself, if what was on that tape is 10,000x worse than what I just imagined. Gives me chills.
I would have found it interesting to discuss why this "serial killer" phenomenon seems to occur disproportionately frequently in the US. Also, it weirds me the hell out that those murderers are treated like celebrities, everyone knows their name etc... I feel like they should be treated the same way as school shooters, don't say their names in the media, don't make them famous, instead focus on the victims.
It’s not that the US has a disproportionate amount of serial killers. It’s that after the 1980s/1970s people took it way more seriously. I know of a case in Mexico of a female wrestler who was a serial killer and it took an extreme amount of time to find her bc they hadn’t taken it seriously nor believed a woman could fit the narrative.
One leading theory that I think is quite interesting is that the frequent exposure to lead poisoning could have permanently altered people’s minds. We’re already seeing now cases of seemingly regular people having lost 2-3 IQ points just from being exposed to lead
I think the cases in the US are just more visible. as you pointed out, people created a celebrity culture around them and having looked at cases of serial crime in other countries I can say with a little bit of certainty that glorifying serial murderers in the media is an overwhelmingly American phenomena. there are definitely more serial killers in the US but you can argue that has to do with population, it's a big country. but then even that doesn't cover it because what about China? there is definitely something more but I think US cases are just more talked about, usually just the ones from the 50s to the early 2000s (you don't really hear much about serial murderers in the present day), which could give the illusion of quantity. some people do argue that the celebrity like nature of serial murderers actually feeds into the creation of serial murderers, but I don't think it has as big of an effect that some people say it does.
I think they are celebrities just as the guy explained that we want to be able to understand something that is so far away from what we feel and think. Also yes, I’m European (Norwegian) and I’m surprised no one outside my country hasn’t talked about our most ruthless mass murderer called Anders Behring Breivik that killed over 40 kids on an island that were young members of a political party for social democracy. It is believed he has nazi political viewpoints and meant that killing those children would prevent a future of socialism
@@scandicgamer3071 I have definitely heard of Breivik before, I was reading about him a couple of months ago. A disgusting human being.
"Do you like brocolli or do you not?" Imagine sitting in a tense room with a sadistic murderer and they ask you this. Just imagine.
Dont read my name tho😑
spooky 😱
i do like broccoli tho- i don't kill ppl i swear-
I’d be like yeah do you? 👁👄👁
@@dontreadprofilephoto1728 stop commenting on all the comments you see, its just a rick roll or smth and youre trying to get views.
As someone who lost their sister by someone who decided to take her life, I am so thankful that you and these criminologist tell how the family grieves and how a lot of us do not get justice. The justice system is not fair and I think that has been proven many many times.
I’m so sorry for your loss! I hope this video has helped to create closure.
So sorry for ur loss💔
Sorry for all you, and your sister's loved one's must endure in the aftermath of her life being taken.
Same thing happened to my aunt ❤️ sorry for ur loss
Sounds like your advocating for a darker crueler system.
Not me thinking he was gonna meet an actual serial killer💀
Same lmao
Same
General PSA for anyone confused: criminology, as the first criminologist said, isn't *just* about studying serial killers, but generally about studying crime and people who commit crimes. So it has to do with all kinds of crime and understanding why it happens and how to prevent it. Basically it's an academic field that can lead to many different jobs.
Yep! I'm starting my Ph.D. in criminal justice (very similar but not the same as criminology) in the fall, and I'll be working to change how delinquency prevention programs are implemented in schools to work for neurodiverse youth. Criminologists do lots of wildly different things, from juvenile justice research to white-collar crime analysis (one graduate of my program works for Amazon) to interviewing serial killers.
yeah criminology, from my knowledge as a law student, seems like a mix of criminal law, sociology, psychology, and analysing policy making and sentencing.
@@ag5774 as a criminology student, you’re exactly right (: although it is based VERY heavily in the field of sociology
Thank you for this! I'm in my final semester of Criminology and I want to go into Juvenile Justice when I'm finished. There are various pathways that criminologists can take after graduating, it's not just working with serial killers or living the criminal minds life style
do any of y'all have examples of jobs and professions you can get into with a criminology degree? thanks 🙏
I felt so bad when Amanda said she lost her husband due to suicide, my heart goes out to her and she seems like a very strong lady.
May he Rest In Peace
Thank you
@@AmandaHoward73 you’re so beautiful 💖 I love your work too, have a wonderful night❤️
@@AmandaHoward73 im so sorry for ur loss💔may he rip
@@julesoxana3630 thank you
there is a HUGE misconception that criminology is equivalent to criminal/forensic psychology. we study all sorts of crimes (white collar crime, cyber crime, green crime, to name a few), victimology, theories of crime, quantitative and qualitative analysis of crime, and the criminal justice system. we don't just study serial killers and criminology is not only about picking the mind of the offender. in fact, serial killings rarely come up when we're studying criminology. we examine issues within the criminal justice system and how systemic issues in society produce victims. this video was interesting but it's misleading because criminology focuses on society and social structures rather than the psyche of the offender. so, if you're a true crime fanatic who is interested in understanding the *psychology* of criminals, studying criminology may disappoint you.
As a Criminology major who's also into true crime, thank you for your comment. Throughout my undergrad, the topic of serial killers only came up for one course, which looked into sociological and psychological factors that correlate with criminal behavior in serial killers. Personally, I found the video insightful and interesting, since it looked into career paths for criminal/forensic psychology, but this video title should definitely replace "Criminologists" with another career. Criminology is a very wide-reaching, nuanced, and complex subject, so it shouldn't only be associated with serial killers or psychopathy.
So true, I have seen a lot of people in college who went into criminology looking for this and were disappointed
Exactly, thank you!
There isn't any misconception whatsoever. When someone says they're a physicist nobody automatically assumes they work at SpaceX on rockets. It's a diverse field and rocket science is but one aspect of it. It won't dissapoint you at all. Both the white collar con man and 90 iq serial killer both do what they do to feel powerful. Night and day surface difference yes but same motives at the end of the day.
The toolbox killer absolutely terrifies me but the officer that took every single detail of the car…they pushed through and did the job. RIP to that person they are admirable for their work🤍
I clicked on this video with the thought "huh maybe anthony sat down with that one criminologist/sociologist I took intro to sociology with in my freshman year of college," as a joke because he's written books on serial killers, not thinking he actually would be featured. Dr. Bonn was a professor at my university back in 2016, he literally was the reason why I became so interested in criminology. So crazy!!
Oh my god that’s awesome!!
Wow that's actually cool
I wish Anthony woulda shown his answrs more, he seemed to answer very technically
It's not crazy. This is an interconnected world.
It’s a small world
It's crazy how not all serial killers are psychopaths, I would've assumed that at least the majority of them would be psychopaths, not only 40-50%.
I was also suprised by that fact. But I guess if you include sociopaths and people with narcissistic and machiavellian tendencies, which by the way also have little to no remorse at all, then this number goes way up to 80-90%.
Some people just _really_ lose their shit.
the world made us think that all cr azy people are evi;l
We meet again
Boo
For people wondering why some want to hear the tapes, it’s curiosity. A fascination with wanting to know all the details. I feel like the more you know, the more you are able to connect with/immerse yourself into the story (not taking away from the fact that what happened to the victims is absolutely horrifying). Also, I think it’s similar to how if there is a car accident on a highway, everyone passing by is trying to get a look at what happened (rubber-necking)
I advise that you stop looking for it. I was like that until I watched the Funky town murder video. It literally gave me PTSD symptoms. I will never give into my morbid curiosity again. That shit made me not want to live.
@@stephaniemarie2742 thanks for your heads up, I think being able to sleep soundly at night sounds real nice. Hopefully things get easier on your side ♥️
Not lecturing you OP, just adding to the other commenter's story in the hopes of further dissuading edgy kids and curious people. But I used to watch a bunch of gory videos out of morbid curiosity, and now I have trouble properly empathizing with and reacting to tragedies and emergencies. I similarly have PTSD symptoms from watching a video of a man game-ending himself. Don't do it, y'all.
@@wetsockfullofhotmeat exactly I grew up watching a lot of true gore and real murder tapes from the age of 8 now I can’t feel much empathy when it comes to death murder and pain. I also have tendencies to plan things and tendencies to hurt people for my own gain and amusement. Thankfully I have a therapist and I’m getting that in check and controlled. But it’s not a fun edgy thing when you imagine your brother hanging from the ceiling with his guts spilled out only to realize what you just imagined. It’s involuntary. Don’t do it.
psa: if you want to see gore to satisfy the morbid curiosity itch, look at *medical* gore like autopsies and surgeries. murders, tortures, and suicides scar you
I know I am late but BIG WARNING- the toolbox killers is not for the faint of heart. It's one of the most horrifying serial killer cases I've ever heard. Gave me paranoia and nightmares. Please be cautious
You're way too late. You're that person who arrives at a razed village a year after the battle to let the graveyard know the lannisters are coming.
@@alexcisneros2980 waste your time somewhere else
@@erincejka8382yeah for real. Thanks for the heads up, I’m thinking about looking into that
As a woman, while yes I find the stories of serial killers & especially true crime interesting, it’s more about learning how to be safe. The more you know, the more you know what to look for and how to protect yourself!!! Edit: omg lol the reason I say “as a woman” is bc I was answering their question in the video of why women more than men are interested in true crime. Thanks 🙃
Serial. Sorry I had to 😅
@@kaylaball6482 thanks!! 😂😂😂
Exactly!
Yeah, even if it's pretty unlikely I run into a serial killer I can still learn to spot abuse tactics and signs of narcissism etc. You never know though, there's crazy people out there.
@@majlordag1889 I mean probably not? Like I think the satistics for how many people out of the population killed someone is 1 in 1000? And you walk past 11 in a life time? But who knows?
I've wanted to be a criminologist for the last few years, and I have begun studying psychology in preparation for college. I'm so happy that you've done an episode with criminologists! Hopefully this will help me with my decision on my future. Thankyou so much!
Dont read my name tho😑
Yooo I wish you the best!
@@vixy2321 are you referring to the culture or the massacre?
@@vixy2321 never mind, I know what you mean.
Go getem bro
my mom was actually going to be a police officer, and she told me during her training she had to learn about serial killers and she said she felt so disgusted and terrified and actually never became an officer because of this. these people are so brave
Sucks cowardice stopped her from being what she wanted to be.
Something I don’t get is how my bio dad, did everything besides kill a human. I was threatened but he never killed a human. So it’s insane but when that guy said “not all psychopath kill”.. which hit so hard
EVERYTHING ??
As a person that's studied Psychology, Criminology, Forensics and Sociology at a high school level and has a huge interest within the forensics field; I adored this episode. Thank you!
This isn't Criminology.
@@deathbunny8322 yes it is💀
@@ellereid6708 no it isn't, Criminology is an ontology that aligns with the scientific framework, what they do isn't scientific and follows no framework.
@@deathbunny8322 its literally stated in the title of the video lmfao what
i’m taking psychology and sociology to do thiss
"Who's playing games now?" "You're very clever" That was so chilling.
WHEN SHE SAID THAT, MY JAW WAS ON THE FLOOR
just hearing the lead detective killed himself due to the tapes, just shows the amount of evidence they have to go through, and would definitely never want the tapes to be public
I can say as a woman who loves the true crime genre as a whole, I watch it because I feel like it gives me a reality check, and it reminds me that there are terrible people out in the world that want to hurt people who look like me. After I watched my first documentary on serial killers I went out and bought pepper spray. I want to take self defense classes soon, I just didn’t have the money for awhile. I also do love the psychological aspect of true crime as well, I think it’s really interesting and important to understand the criminal’s minds and dissect their behavior.
This is one of those jobs that takes so much endurance and patience. I cannot even imagine how much they have all seen and worked through and then went back and lived life. I am always in awe
I recently went to East Alcatraz in Pidegon Forge, Tennessee. It's a crime museum that held multiple items used by real serial killers. I felt so sad just reading and looking at it, I couldn't imagine seeing the worse aspects. I saw John Wayne Gacy's clown suits, O.J Simpsons car, various letters from Ted Bundy and Jeffery Dahmer. Truly horrific.
i don’t identify with the victims the majority of the times i watch these stuff; im just interested in the reasons behind these acts. If i have to guess why the majority of us women watch true crime shows is because we want to learn, learn to keep away from these people, learn the circumstances i can avoid to not end up like that, be smarter of my choices, learn why these people do this stuff, what caused it, because sadly we are targeted by just being women. But for me i just watch it because its i love science and psychology and its just very interesting to me.
That's mostly why I watch this kind of stuff too.
This. This is exactly why I have such a fascination with true crime.
I feel like this could be considered identifying with the victims in that you're seeing that its happening mostly to women, knowing that just this fact could make you a target and are therefore trying to learn how to not also become a victim, if that makes sense? But yes completely agree i feel a sense of "I'm trying to prevent this happening to me by learning as much as possible" when I dive into true crime as well as that fascination with learning the why of it.
I'm a woman but look like a guy so I don't really fear that stuff. I just watch it cuz it's interesting af to me
Actually 80% of homicide victims are men and men are 10 times more likely to be victim of homicide than women in amarica
I appreciate Anthony for censoring the faces of the serial killers. They obviously do not deserve to be sensationalized more than they have, I'm sure a lot of the ones who has passed or are still alive get a sick kick out of their infamy for the most part. I truly wish the victims (if allowed by the families) would be the ones highlighted more often when talking about serial killers. They deserve to be remembered more than the ones who hurt them and their loved ones.
Most serial killers stay under the radar because they want to keep killing. Literally only one ever confessed to all their crimes. None of them ever reveal all victims and crimes even when facing the death sentence because they want to keep it for themselves. They don't give a f about notoriety. It's the people themselves that make them infamous and lavish them with attention as if they were celebrities.
I love how respectful Anthony is and that he really listens and doesn’t interrupt. It’s a nice mix between humorous banter and informational
if i was in a tiny room with a serial killer i’d probably have a panic attack. these people are so brave. sadly criminologists don’t get enough recognition. props to them 👏👏
If I was I would try and kill the serial killer. Not even in self defense
I would honestly faint, but I won't let them eat me lol
Their field is one of the most respected and widely read stem fields in existence. Idk wtf you're talking about.
A really nice counterpart to this episode would be to interview people who have committed crimes and been reformed. Maybe even get in contact with the folks from the Ear Hustle podcast. We gotta make sure we don't demonize the people that are willing to show remorse and grow from their time in prison.
Yes! I remember when I took something called the Alpha course and this guy shared his story on there. He had killed two people, went to prison for it (is still there I’m sure) and he did actually get rehabilitated and helps other prisoners and troubled men get the mental (and spiritual - since it was a religious program) help they need.
Nah there's no true rehabilitation for murderers
@@emberdt7998 how would you know. Your probably a 20 year old white kid living in his mommy’s basement and don’t have any knowledge on anything discussed in the video. Why don’t you let the professionals talk about murderers and sit down and shut up :)
@@emberdt7998 literally
Larry Lawton & Jessica Kent are both reformed criminals on social media. Neither are murderers though.
i was in a pretty scary situation once and i truly believe if i hadn’t been interested in true crime i really don’t think i would have gotten away from it unscathed. i listen and watch to learn. kind of sad if i think about it for too long. but i’m thankful either way.
I've been considering doing a part time degree in psychology with a criminology minor recently and I'm so happy that you came out with this video! It's really motivating me to pursue that degree. It hasn't been an easy choice for me given that I'll have to juggle working full time and part time studies, and the fact that I'll likely have to give up many of my hobbies which I love so much
I would never have enough courage to have one of those jobs. They are really brave.
I know! Its mind boggling how many people in the comments are interested in this career path. It would destroy me!
@@daniellekirsch5402 ive never really thought about how people can be actually scared of this career! My whole life I’ve been supper interested in this career and I’ve even studied a bit of it before (I am a highschool dropout so I can’t really study it). Criminology is one of the only careers that I can see myself studying and working on.
I actually want to do criminology. It intersects me so much! Idk why tho :/♡
@@yesiamme9000 same!
@@daniellekirsch5402 i dont really feel emotion when people are in distress or when someone dies I feel nothing. Its a little uncomfortable to hear but it doesn’t really affect me. But i want to become a police officer to help people and stop stuff like this from happening. So I can understand why some people are afraid and most people aren’t built for a job like this, but theres a few people who are capable of handling that kinda stuff.
Anthony, could you do a video on people with trichotillomania and dermotillomania? Or just BFRBs in general. There are a lot but those are the more common ones. I have suffered with both for years and it would be nice to see other people's stories on it. It would also be great for people who don't understand, or know about it. Thx!
I have had trichotillomania for roughly 20 years. I'm trich free now. I use kinesiology tape to stop myself from pulling. You can find my reddit post where I explain more on reddit, just look for "kinesiology tape" in r/trichotillomania. Of course, it won't help everyone since we're all different, but I truly hope it will help you. You are not alone 💖
what is that? :O
@@heeheejackson It's like a bandaid, but water resistant and much more easy to cut into shape
He did do a video on OCD and someone mentioned trichotillomania and I would love if he did a video going more in depth about it for sure. I’ve had it since I was a kid and it is the most frustrating fucking thing 😭
I've had dermotillomania since I can remember , started when my anxiety started, now I can't stop. It's more common than people think I reckon, would enjoy a video on that too
I’ve just completed a criminology class in my post-secondary studies and it was truly one of the best experiences of my life. Learning how sometimes an otherwise normal person can commit such heinous acts is truly fascinating and I hope to continue to be able to learn about criminology in the future.
As someone in school for CJS please post more videos like this! Your take is so fresh and gives me 3 new perspectives each time !
sigh. to think that criminology is such a massive field that addresses so many actual systemic issues with our criminal justice system and it's always chalked down to 'what about that serial killer from the 90s i wanna know more about'.
I was thinking the same!
Yeah, I had that issue too. I just finished filming my reaction to this video as an academic criminologist (legal psychology) which will be up on my channel in the next few days. I appreciate him bringing awareness to the field, but he really didn't do it justice.
Thats true! Maybe anthony can make another video of ppl who analyse shit like theft and con artists or what not
@@craftycrime6824 i love this! i’m currently majoring in criminology, well on my way to a masters and i would love to hear from a criminologist on this video. it’s so easy to wittle down to the bare bones of serial killers and true crime but i want to hear about the failings of our justice system and theories of rehabilitation (bentham style heheh) and restorative justice.
Here we go again with the “system” 🙄
I wanted to be a criminologist for a really long time. I thought it was my passion, then after taking a few classes in college. I realized it wasnt for me, crime scene photos and interviews i could take. But watching the videos they took or listening to their victims screams were too much for me. Now, after accepting that, even though im still interested in the career, im not mentally strong enough for it, and thats okay. Now i do art for fun and enjoy it way more, and am trying to make a career outta it. Idk the point of this post, but ya if something doesnt work out thats ok
Sorry that it didn't work out for you. Im glad that it was too much. You have a lovely heart
As someone with a PhD in psychology and a bachelor's degree in criminology, I can assure you that there are quite a few jobs you can do in the criminology field. I've provided counseling to kids in the juvenile justice system, worked on minimizing the school to prison pipeline, and am currently getting some more experience in forensic psychology. A lot of criminologists stick to academia or research! Just some ideas to consider 😊
Interesting. I may actually try out criminology because I am quite interested in the psychology of criminals, and I don't really get that emotional when I see or hear anything gruesome happening. I was considering being an embalmer due to me not getting grossed out by dead currently getting eaten by worms corpses (animal corpses anyways, I haven't actually interacted IRL with a rotting human corpse), but idk. I may just end up working as a worker at Starbucks or even a janitor if none of those work, since I don't really have any other good qualities. I'm still in high school though, so I'm currently just exploring my options. Sorry if my comment wasn't well put together, but I hope it's still somewhat readable 😅
@@popsikern5848 oh i just know u have lots of good qualities!! And i hope criminology works out for u! Im still figuring my shit out so i completly get where ur coming from. But i wish u the best!! :)
@@christina-2002 Thanks, you too! Let's hope we both get all our shit together eventually.
i just finished a 10 page paper on forensic criminology for a career research project. honestly, throughout this paper, this made me realize just what these people deal with. truly astounding.
“By dignifying even the most despicable character as a human being, by offering them what empathy we can manage, we also hold them accountable for their choices.” - Ben Folds
the comments suprised abt the „low percentage of psychopaths“ makes me realize HOW BADLY memtal illness is villafied and it’s disgusting honestly
it’s so sad- i’ve seen people commenting under true crime documentaries saying they’re worried that they’ll turn out like the criminals because they have bipolar disorder, bpd etc. i wish people were more aware that mental illness is not the reason people act this way.
Yeah. I also think a lot of people have an obsession with making psychological diagnoses of _others_ , which is ...not... helpful or thoughtful. "They must be crazy" becomes "they're a scitzo" or "I bet they have bipolar...!" or what have you... :/ But then also, consuming too much media focusing on the bad things happening in the world can lead people to perceive the world as worse/more dangerous than it really is (a sociologist came up with this theory, which he dubbed the "mean world syndrome"). (also, it's spelled "vilified" just fyi! :) )
@cat well hello again, nice to see you around here too
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Literally. It’s so messed up how othered people with mental illnesses and other mental conditions are by the world. People treat psychopaths and others with personality disorders as if they’re a separate species and it’s downright cruel.
I'm about 6 minutes into the video, the fact that Laura is able to joke along about something of that magnitude, where she's sitting right with them, with no handcuffs, is absolutely incredible. I could never do something like that.
It’s so nice to have found this video. I’m in graduate school right now studying for my master’s in criminology and having videos like these to watch is so cool!! I got my bachelor’s in psychology and I’m hoping to work with serial killers like these criminologists one day. Thanks Anthony!! 🖤
This whole episode has the perfect hit of eerie. Thank you for making these, you keep us intrigued
This is a job I would like to pursue. Thank you Anthony for really looking into the pros and cons of it.
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As someone studying criminology, I absolutely loved this episode!! So educational and beneficial in teaching people what we do
This isn't what we do, this is phantasy not the reality of Criminology. Criminology has nothing to do with "psychopaths"
@@deathbunny8322 I’m kinda confused by what you’re saying. So these are unemployed people pretending to be criminologists? Or what would you call what *these* people do? Probably comes down to fact that “psychoanalytic investigator” or whatever the correct term would be just doesn’t sound as clickable.
@@rakoonshampoo2608 I think what Astro is trying to say is that serial killers are only a small part of what criminologists study. They are only a small part of the crimes committed in society. Some people specialize in serial killers but most are focused on more common crimes (drugs, theft, assault etc.) and the general patterns that cause these crimes. Social structures (upbringing, the system, poverty etc.) usually play the most important role. Long story short the job is much more than what the masses are interested in.
@@Mattdewit Ah. Maybe. I took it more as “it’s a scientific endeavor that deals with data.” Which is more what my understanding of what criminology is. Sort of like epidemiologists vs doctors.
@@deathbunny8322 that’s not true though. Criminology is vast and varied in its study of criminal behaviour, law and crime. So yeah it doesn’t just focus of indictable crime or psychopathic crime but it also doesn’t just not study them. Criminology involves a lot more then that, but this is also a crucial part. Most criminologists like my lectures after they graduate actually study criminal psychology by interviewing inmates at jail or working at mental institution for those serving time.
Big love to Amanda I’m so sorry for her loss. She has an incredible strength to hold her head high and work in such a challenging profession and to work so well in it. Amazing interview and respect for the other criminologists interviewed as well. Amazing job Anthony!!!
Anthony’s sponsorship videos one of the only ones I do watch, very interesting and to the point
Thank you
As someone who's currently working towards a degree in criminology and criminal justice, I found this episode to be so interesting. Thank you Anthony.
as a woman who is interested in true crime I wouldn't say I'm interested in it bc the victims are woman, it's more just wanting to understand what it takes for people to kill, I find it interesting to know how they ended up being that way and why. To me sometimes its just about how much can I endure to listen to, I'm just morbidly curious at the end of the day.
Same. It's the psychology surrounding it that's most interesting to me. I can't speak for others, obviously, but I think saying women are interested in it because they can identify with the victims is VERY simplified and really diminishes women's credibility in these things. As if we can't just find it fascinating and want to know more. I've seen hours and hours of interrogation footage on people murdering old people, their families, women murdering their husbands... I don't identify with any of these people, and neither do I identify with young female victims. I just find the psychology surrounding becoming a killer and then trying to get through interrogations and police investigations interesting. That's it.
There’s nothing “simplifying” about the basic human instinct to identify with others who are like us.
@@scarsound i can agree with you to an extent. Women are subjected to danger, and are warned about danger every day 24/7. We are literally built to keep our guard up, and a lot of us are already victims. However you can't say that this perspective applies to every woman. Even on a subconscious level. You don't know her, and you don't know her subconscious mind. Sometimes a girlie just wants to watch true crime for her own reasons. Personally its because of my own morbid curiousity and fascination with psychology, plus i just feel like i'll need to watch anyways so i could learn the red flags i will need to spot. I mainly want to be able to protect myself and see what i need to avoid. Of course i have sympathy for the victims, but i don't project myself onto them. If anything it just reminds me how dangerous it is to be a woman. It unfortunately adds to the pain of the entire situation.
@@scarsound it's still simplifying when you're trying to claim that everyone in an audience is thinking about things in one specific way. Putting things under an umbrella is literally simplification.
@@scarsound why are you trying to tell them why they like what they like? they just explained in detail what drives their interest and you’re ignoring it ☠️
dude can you a "spend a day with psychopaths/sociopaths/people with ASPD" one day? ASPD is very widely stigmatized and it'll be interesting to have them speak about it
I don't think cluster b's are "stigmatized". I don't know much about aspd. But things like bpd, people claim tooth and nail it's all a stigma but then they simultaneously list all of their abusive manipulative behavior and their lack of wanting to change it. (Literally alll over the internet)
I’m seeing this a lot and in what way because what’s vocalized and avoided is true
@@emberdt7998 you're describing stigma. People with personality disorders aren't evil, and people without personality disorders engage in harmful/manipulative behavior as well. Obviously when someone describes their disorder they'll discuss the worst of it, not the normal ways they act on a regular basis. It's stigmatizing to think BPD and immediately jump to saying its just manipulative people doing bad things. And it seems like confirmation bias saying that "all over the internet" BPD people don't want to change. People actively improving themselves aren't ranting in the same parts of the internet, but they do exist and I personally see more of them.
@@emberdt7998 That's literally stigma.
@@Sakura11101 Thank you. There's a reason why they're called disorders. Personality disorders. They're not manipulative, kind, stubborn, abusive, caring, and etc. They're *disorders.* And it's not an excuse for bad behaviors too.
Wow wow wow im in love with these interviews insanely personable, relatable, eye opening, im extremely proud of how far youve come anthony the other day i stumbled on the video you made when you were leaving smosh and its mind boggling to see where youve taken yourself! Youve come so far my friend🌹 please continue doing you
my aunt was in court for something my mom did and the judge said “you disgust me” and then she said “sir, every case you have been the judge in, you have been disgusted in all of those cases, how am I different from all the things I’ve “done”. She was badass.
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even though all your videos follow the same format they're all so different and you have such a broad range of topics. i can really appreciate that Anthony, keep up the great work. and thank you to all the people who are a part of this series, either sharing their stories or helping behind the scenes.
Dont read my name tho😑
What Anthony has done with this channel is absolutely incredible. Incomparable to anything else. Always, I have it on the top of my playlist.
I have an Honours BA in Criminology, and I have continuously had an interest in serial killers and their reasoning behind things. I love learning about this stuff!
Anthony's channel is the only one where I never skip the sponsor section. He deserves it, he puts so much work in his videos it's increible, and his content is always amazing.
Ok now that’s a way cooler job than cleaning up the stuff they leave behind 👀
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Is that what you do for your job 🤯
biggie clean should become a criminologist
anthony back at it again, bringing the answers we've always sorta wanted to know more about, but then makes them way more interesting with his interviewing skills
I'm about 3/4 years through my Criminology degree, so this was a really cool episode to watch! Thank you so much
Have you finished yet?
I remember hearing about some of these cases through Bailey Sarian. Really interesting interviews, thanks Anthony!
i love just listening to peoples story's like this and it really opens up my view on certain jobs and how it effect peoples mental health
Dont read my name tho😑
@@dontreadprofilephoto1728 i know hat that leads to no thank you lol
My dad has his PhD in criminal justice and I always loved hearing all his stories, or at least the ones he was allowed to tell me lol. He focuses on gangs and gang violence, not serial killers, but still some pretty brutal stuff. He has gotten threats tho from some pretty notorious gangs
This is so interesting to hear their perspectives and how they get the killers talking about their crimes. I’ve always wanted to major in criminology and it’s nice to see how the job works and what can happen. Side note; I love Anthony’s shirt, does anyone know where he got it?
I’m going to school right now for criminology, so thank you so much for this episode. It lights a fire in me even more now.
i desired this career for YEARS and ended up changing my mind after i actually started college for the first time but it’s remained a passion of mine to keep up with the science and psychology of criminology so i was very excited to get this notification. thank you anthony, not only for this particular video but this entire series. i’ve already been watching you for a long time but these videos are so informative, calming, and just make us feel good even if it’s something we know nothing about or everything about. it’s always nice to see different perspectives and even seeing how true some stereotypes actually turn out to be. this series has become a daily part of my life, something i watch /rewatch when my anxiety is high or when i’m just in a mood and can’t get out of it. you’re so under appreciated and you never fail to remind us that you appreciate us as well. thank you again. i could keep going but youtube comment sections are not for books😂
This isn't Criminology.
@@deathbunny8322 personally i’m more in tune with sociology which is mainly what draws me in. i would argue that this episode plays out with more of criminal psychology feel, versus what criminology actually is as people who are interested have more of a limited idea of what criminology actually is. i believe it’s something that people don’t fully understand unless one is actually a criminologist. we assume that psychology goes hand in hand but in a lot of cases it doesn’t have to and i could be wrong about that but regardless, i appreciate the episode. i think it’s important for people to understand that what is shown here isn’t necessarily what they would be solely doing. although i’m assuming these people are in the field (i would hope so) i feel as if this episode could have been done differently, like in a way that explained more of the specifics and not just a boxed view of serial killer this, serial killer that, because it’s so much more.
@@peachyyjade ask yourself what's the difference between "criminal psychology" and regular psychology. It's marketing and snake oil, it's to suggest criminals are somehow drastically different to "normal people" and it's this logic within psychology that viewed people who identified as transgender as mentally ill or suffering from a disorder which we know is very wrong.
@@deathbunny8322 that makes a lot of sense actually, i wish there was more of a known difference rather than people boxing everything together and assuming it all means the same thing. that’s actually exactly what drove me away from pursuing it. i didn’t know if i wanted to study criminology, sociology, plain psychology, or criminal psychology and when it came time to choose a major and minor i was even more lost. i didn’t have the resources at the time to understand the differences so i felt like i wasn’t cut out for any of it. in my years since i spend my time trying to learn and read up on the various subtopics surrounding these career fields but i have much further to go in my learning. also sorry for the word vomit and i hope i make sense in my replies, my brain is so tired. do you actually study criminology? if you don’t mind i would love to hear what you study. you obviously have a deep knowledge and i admire that very much
@@peachyyjade I double majored in criminology and psychology during college. I loved studying criminology and found it very interesting. If you're looking for something with a broader array of job experiences, I would pursue psychology. I just earned my PhD in psychology and know that it was the right decision! I still reference my criminology degree at times during my work, as well- I do a lot of counseling and assessment with kids in the juvenile justice system. You really have a lot of freedom to explore your options when it comes to psychology! Just my two cents 😊
She went to the school of John E. Douglas and Robert K. Ressler with that tactic 6:29. They basically wrote the book of how to interview these crazy killers. She’s a great criminologist.
There is no school. They wrote books that's it.
this has to be my favourite episode...I'm very passionate about criminology and I hope to be a forensic psychologist in the future
As someone interested in criminology myself. This is a good kickstarter for me!
This isn't Criminology, these is stereotypes from individuals who are barely recognised in the field. They are not Criminologists.
While I wouldn't go as far as astrocriminal here, do keep in mind criminology is an academic field with many paths to take besides just working with serial killers & I encourage you to research some other options you could have in the field as well!
I'm very glad to see you've grown so much over the years. I definitely miss the old Smosh videos and it kinda hurts that their channel is slowly dying. However it is amazing that you've managed to do your own thing. Congratulations for creating some of the best content on KZhead!
Interestingly I’ve really gotten into their stuff recently. Probably not most peoples cup of tea
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This is the most interesting one to me yet! I’m obsessed with criminology, how SKs minds work, I minored in psychology. Thankyou for this video, I truly find it beyond interesting. I hope all the victims of those mentioned are at peace, as well as their families.
I study social work at the moment, and afterwards going to study criminology. I'm looking forward even more now! Love this video 🤩
Love you Anthony! This series is so enlightening.
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Dont read my name tho😑
@@dontreadprofilephoto1728 👁️_👁️ okay
At one point in college I was going to switch majors but thought about listening to these people who have murdered multiple people try to explain or even justify themselves in interviews and looking them in the eyes unnerved me to the point I went from psychology to English real quick. Just no... it's definitely for the strong.
That's not what Criminology is.
@@deathbunny8322 They said psychology not criminology
I did criminology for a year. Was supposed to double major in Psychology and Criminology. I moved on to Psychology and Industrial psychology
Hearing recording of the victim screams are chilling. I heard a few recordings and it can make you literally cover up your ears and hug your self in an corner.
Criminology is truely fascinating. I’m taking steps to study criminology in the next few years and I’m so excited
it would be super cool if you did a day with crime scene investigators/forensic scientists :0 i love all learning about all the crime stuff
I remember when Bailey Sarian made a video about the Toolbox Killers; she didn’t show anything, only described the crimes, and I got severe brain-fog, vomited, and had to exit the video. I seriously commemorate these people for being so tough mentally and, I’m sure, getting the help THEY need in order to deal with and study some of the worst aspects of humanity. I hope their research and that of many others leads to being able to help people who find themselves snapping due to abuse, trauma, etc. and prevent things like these from happening much more, or ever again.
I’m a true crime podacast listener, and there’s only been 2 cases that I truly couldn’t stomach and had to shut off, and the toolbox killers were one of them.
@@katykat978 which was the other case?
@@louisvuittontoescarf3559 the other was the case of Junka Furuta. I feel like I should give a warning, the case brings a lot of strong strong emotions and lowkey a feeling of helplessness.
@@katykat978 Same the junko faruta one messed me up. Since she's also the same age as me. But another one i recently discovered was about Suzanne Capper. Danielle Kirsty covered it recently. She was also the same age as junko. She was such a brave and kind soul.
@katykat978 I’m curious but I know I won’t be able to listen to them describe what happened, can you give brief explanation? The junko case also messed me up, so I don’t think I can handle the toolbox killer but I’m so curious what made it so brutal
There needs to be a part 2 to this. There’s sooooo much to discuss!
Hi Anthony! I loved this episode. Thank you so much! I think you should make a video where you spend a day with people with Trichotillomania :)
I feel this is going to be THE episode for me. It’s soo interesting, how criminals think and why they act like this.
Look at clinical psychology not Criminology, this isn't what Criminology is.
@@deathbunny8322 ive seen you reply on basically every comment ive clicked on lol! could you explain what you do in criminology? sorry if this message sounds mean its not meant to be :)
@@deathbunny8322 These were only examples (bad worded ones, I’ll give you that). What they said, about how to talk to criminals to get the most information you can, is exactly what I meant by saying “how they think”. They also talked about if it’s pure evil and said that there must have happened something, for someone to become a serial killer, and thats what I meant with “why they act like this”. I just didn’t know how to phrase it properly since english isn’t my first language. So sorry for the confusion :D
@@luvley_josie I'm a Criminological Researcher for a European University and have liased with Interpol, Europol and the International Court of Justice. These three people are the furthest thing from Criminology and any active Criminologist would tell you that. Ask yourself, what do these people actually do? interview a small gamut of criminals saying the same things that have been said since the 70s that still use theories and practices developed in the 1800s by Thomas Bond (they probably never even heard that name).
@@deathbunny8322 then what do you do ?
I think people are fascinated with true crime stories because it is difficult for the average person to understand how somebody can do something like that
i watched a documentary about serial killers and it intrigued me into the jobs you can get involving criminals and why they do what they do, it rlly interested me and i’ve found so many categories involving the topic,it’s my dream job and as soon as i saw the title i was so excited:))
I’d like to see a video like “I spent a day with scientist.” as I’m learning to become a chemist! but I love all forms of science because we use it to build theories and unlock more knowledge and I think it’s a gift we have the opportunity to learn about our planet.
Criminology has always fascinated me. Psychology in general really but I feel like learning about that stuff is a double-edged sword because the more I learned the more judgemental I became and it kinda put a strain on my relationship with people. I miss being Ignorant honestly 😂😂😂
It is a learning curve that comes with having new experiences. The alternative is staying in a shell and doing the same old. Both are fine, but me personally, I could never imagine the latter. I rather struggle, make mistakes than just be blissfully ignorant ans uncreative.
Honestly I feel the opposite. Learning psychology helps me be more patient with people because I understand them
I'm studying criminology with psychology at university and this was such a good video and really helps motivate me to get my degree even more!
I ended up double majoring in psychology and criminology in college too! While I ended up getting my doctorate in psychology (not criminology), I definitely still reference my criminology degree at times in my psychology work. These two areas align very well! Good luck in your studies! It's hard work but totally worth it.
Thank you for doing this video. Currently studying criminology and this was really interesting
I have been deciding what I wanted to go to college for and this was something I have longed to do. Thanks for this video to help me make a decision. I wanted to do this because like you said “existing is exhausting “ I care about EVERYONES mental health and I’m fascinated about the minds of killers I wanna know how they feel about everything and how their brains work 😊
you should do a video with forensic pathologists!! they are the people who take the bodies from a crime scene and do the autopsies to figure out how exactly they died, when they died, and how it relates to the crime!! they are so cool and i want to do that some day :)) it’s actually really interesting, and Dr. Joye Carter is one, she’s collaborated with a few different youtube channels talking about her job which is cool
This series is gold👌👌
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How would you know??? You haven't had the time to watch this video yet
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@@miloverreijt6396 I have, its really good
@@miloverreijt6396 I never specifically said this vid I said the series coz I’ve seen the other vids
“sometimes existing is exhausting” is the most relatable sentence ever
This is one of my majors I want in college it’s so cool hearing everyone speak its fascinating
Dude anthony's interviews are so good, I learn so much and its so entertaining. Love ur vids!
He's the best interviewer after all.
Can we just appreciate Anthony for doing these interviews and giving these people a voice, but also doing it in an authentic way.
I have been fascinated with crime documentaries and criminology for a long time now. When I get out of high school, I would like to study forensic criminology. This video was very helpful in what the job is really about. Thank you!
I just graduated with a degree in psychology and criminology! So cool! Excited for what the future brings me as well.
thank you for this!! i'm in my final year studying criminology at university and i currently work within police custody, so hearing other criminologists opinions/voices has really inspired me to keep going with my career
Are you able to do a video that interviews Native people? And about the history behind them and the residential schools? As a Native person, I think it doesn’t get enough recognition. :(
That's a good idea!
Why does that matter
@@BrillBails1 What do you mean “why does that matter”?
@@BrillBails1 People asking “Why does that matter?” Are the exact reason it needs more recognition. You are completely unaware of what happened, are you?
@@vixy2321 I think it's a great idea! Ignore that stupid troll they're just attention seeking. The horror that your people have endured should be talked about and more people need to care
One of my best friends was murdered on March 11th, 2023. He had just turned 18 a few months before as a senior and died beginning of 2nd semester. It was a terrible thing to be told
This was a very interesting episode and I find it a lot more easier to see where these horrible evil actions come from In a serial killer. Thank you criminologists for your work :) 🥰