Who's really behind the Moscow attack?
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The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate discuss the worst terror attack against Russia in two decades, and debate the culpability of ISIS-K. What is ISIS, and could there be a hidden hand behind the group's frequent targeting of states designated as enemies by the West?
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Rent a Terrorist sounds like a C.I.A. Program.
yes.
So does ISIS-K. All their recent hits are in line with CIA wishlists.
Mossad and CIA AGENTS
Exactly!!!
All American
Saying US never funds terrorism is like saying NATO is a defensive alliance.
Bro you need new material
@@Marshmobilise I will stop after I post this a thousand times :)
@@PerceivedREALITY999 you must be close to a 1000 now surely you post on everything multiple times a day. Like bro I get it I’m on the same side but have a day off. For your health.
@@Marshmobilise It doesn't take me long to post, I have all my comments saved to save time. But you're right it gets exhausting at times. I'll post again tomorrow :)
@@PerceivedREALITY999 mashallah god protect you mate. 😂🫡
Since when do ISIS fighters allow themselves to be caught after throwing away their weapons? LOL
Or hide and cower like little bitches. They even took all these pictures and released all this shit about going on a “martyrdom operation” only to run away.
Did they look like Isis fighters???
@@mimimccreary8072 Who knows what ISIS fighters look like. These dumb terrorist were pumped up with drugs, money, promises and riches if they made their get-a-way. Their diabolical terrorist sponsors abandon them as was the plan.
Scott Ritter mentioned that they have some sort of sign that isis make with the right hand but these dudes used the left hand.
Only the Obama Boys Do That.
Why would Nuland preview it? Well, Biden said he would end Nordstream, and then it happened.
Who got to Arron? They ALWAYS preview
Trump also said things about that pipeline that were similar to Biden's yapping
Thank you, good point! The American politicians and officials really are that stupid.
She's evil but not as dumb.as biden
Arrogance, hubris!
Nuland brags in advance ALWAYS.
Yes, she could not help it. Very narcissistic red flag.
The USA previewed the Nordstream 2 attack.
what exactly did Victoria Nuland say in advance of the Moscow attack - what does the record show? Any quotes about her statement[s]?
Evil person
@@rd264she said “Russia is gonna receive a nasty surprise (on the battlefield)”, I’m paraphrasing, she made at least two statements to that effect though
Nuland previewed the Nordstresm pipeline. C'mon! Aaron
Indeed. Previewing things like this is NOT new to these psychopaths. They can't help but gloat about their 'cleverness' over their enemies.
Originally it was Trump's idea
Sorry Aaron but I disagree with your opinion about the ISIS terrorist attacks. The timing of that attack is so convenient for Ukraine, NATO .. especially when Ukraine is already on the final steps, running out of everything and Russia advancing on daily basis..
Exactly. Giving Newland the benifit of a doubt that she wouldn't want civilians killed. Sure and epstien was a Saint 🤨
They were talking with people in Ukraine. Ain't hard to ping phones.
The escape route was very clear why now in Russia arround elections isis apparently have done nothing in Russia 2017
yeh hearing him express his opinion just makes it sound how incredibly unlikely Ukraine wasnt involved. Given Russia will tear Ukraine a new one if it finds any evidence, Ukraine really need to prove they had nothing to do with it in a more convincing fashion that claiming it was a Russian false flag....
Yes I agree the West has been exposed as weak its uni-polar economic moment failed. And now it can't seem to move away from the global strategy hegemonic corner it finds itself in. Crapitalism dies in a dark corner. The uni-party "political duopoly" has reached its limit.
I don't know about ISIS-K but I definitely believe it was ISIS-KIEV who had carried out the attack.
All American
maybe thats the new CIA designation for terrorism from Kiev
US psy ops synonymous with Isreal
Cool. If that's the case, do you have the link for donations? I think we are at the "my enemy's enemy is my friend" part of the whole equation. All the best from Australia.
@@monsirtocould only be from australia..shame
🇮🇱🇺🇸 🇺🇦 Mossad CIA
plus FSB
@@varaeva5903All the FSB? You sure about that? 😂
100%
Israeli secret intelligence service
missed SBU
Why does Aaron willfully put his head in the sand on this one , pretty strange
Perharps because, contrary to Mr. Blumenthal, he is principled.
It prolly was ISIS-K. Ask your self what is even ISIS at this point though? Pretty clearly these guys were put up to this. They were trying to escape to Ukraine…. ISIS-K is nothing but western group they are using to harass and attack Afghanistan, Russia and China.
Unless he's playing the game. He's reasoning is actually making it sound more likely it was Ukraine.
He didn't dismiss the idea that it was the US or Ukraine he just said he buys that it was ISIS. If more evidence comes out pointing to US or Ukraine I assume he will change his opinion.
very disturbing...
Definitely NOT ISIS
ISIS = Israeli Secret Intelligence Service. That's why they never fight against IDF. Proof on my channel.
ItSISrael
@@Samaa-os7hx ISIS work with Israel.
Acha que os que foram capturados poderiam ser patsys? É que os que estão dentro do edifício a abrirem fogo comportam-se de forma ordeira, sem receio algum, estão calmos e sabem o que têm que fazer, já os que foram capturados reagem com medo, descontrolados, tremem muito. É certo que as roupas que vestem coincidem com as que os indivíduos que estão dentro do edifício vestem, por isso digo que os que foram capturados são petsys. Verdadeiros terroristas da ISIS não se deixariam capturar, prefeririam a morte a cair nas mãos dos Russos.
@@Samaa-os7hx All American
Nuland has shown no prior restraint in beating her chest over prior bad behavior starting with the coup, the pipeline and other acts. Strategically ambiguous asymmetrical attcks are her in her DNA. Her big mouth is why she was asked to get gone....
EXACTLY!
"Strategically ambiguous asymmetrical attacks" is that an euphemism for "terrorism when we do it"?
@@aceofswords1725 Yes, "asymmetrical warfare" is a euphemism for U.S. sanctioned terrorism.
I wonder what Nuland said about the pipeline- was Nuland the one who claimed that 'it was a Russian job'? Biden had hinted about it in advance that it was a US op.
Aaron does great work, but here I think the culprits are obvious.
Despite his great work, Aaron still has a hard time accepting that the U.S. is manifest evil itself, so he cuts the regime too much slack and retreats to such comfort zones as “they wouldn’t really go that far”.
holding out for The Tribe!
ISIS K leader was a contractor of CIA in Afghanistan. Perhaps prepare better for such video.
It's ISK not ISIS-K and leader is drug lord and former PM Hekmatyr who dounced ISIS, al-Qaeda and Taliban as western puppets and heritics
ISIS would not do this during Ramadan . ISIS also would have died during the attack to seek martyrdom , yet all the perpetrators were caught alive ?
Because it is a Russian 🩰 ballet.
Caught hoping to reach the American Nazi stronghold of Ukraine too, no less.
Agreed...reeks of c.i.a
Mossad
And giving muslim holy signs with LEFT hand... To me that is the clincher. It's muscle memory. Ask a catholic to cross himself with his left hand and see what happens. I doubt these people are even any kind of muslims at all.
she is sociopath, Aaron, and blind with hate
"The western leaders are psychopath and sociopath " Gonzalo Lira R.I.P
He knows.
Nuland was bragging about the Nordstream attack as well, Aaron. She definitely has the gall! I’m not surprised that she previewed the Russian attack. I think you’re wrong this time. Take a shower, get a haircut and some fresh air, bro. These guys were hired guns trying to flee. They weren’t after martyrdom.
I like Aaron’s new look but wish he could give his plant some TLC, it is distracting me and Max’s plants look really healthy in comparison.
@@elizabethashley8260Yes if I have anything to add to this topic I would suggest that Aaron water his plants
Aaron is so naive here - even though it sounds very possible. Psychopaths like to brag. It may sounds stupid to us, but they think they're being clever. I guess he hasn't watched crime channels.
She applauded about it afterwards.
yea really my main problem with aaron isnt that maybe hes wrong on this, its more so that he needs to water his plant
My sincere condolence to the Russian people.
besides trying to flee to ukraine these guys did not behave like typical jihadists. there’s pretty much a consensus on that
They first tried to flee to Belarus, but Belarus had been alerted and had checkpoints on every road into Russia. Facts, find them. Even the Belarussian president stated this likely had nothing to do with Ukraine.
Aaron you need a good night sleep.
Aaron give me a break. Those guys used their left hand to pledge allegiance on the Koran.
Not the Quran specifically, but God and his messenger(s). It's true, even if you are left handed like me, you can't and don't do that with the left.
Sorry guys, but very shallow analysis especially from Aaron he didn't prepare at all and gave some very weird opinions. Looks like the main topic for you only Gaza and Israel now which should be discussed but just take other news more seriously i guess
It's times like this I miss Ben Norton.
come on Aaron!!! You ask why Nuland would announce it ahead of time that they have surprises for Russia?? Don't you remember Nord stream? Biden announced that too... Why would he announce it ahead of time? SMH
Even if it was isis k, they definitely got funded/intelligence from the west.
Aaron proving old saying that no none can be 100% right, 100% of the times! Btw, it seems to me that Nuland was pushed out precisely because this was too extreme. The dates and timing of her resignation, the US Embassy warning, the terrorist spotted there on March 7, the March 9 concert having extra security, it all boils down to the same conclusion.
this is te part where we also need to consider that as powerful as US is not ALL fuckery is US fuckery.
@@jodikoberinski1639 If you think the US would not do such crap, you have a weak memory. They lied open faced to take the country to war, twice! You don´t think there are elements of the US intelligence apparatus that have a twisted mind and a hatred of Russia? Heck, Nuland said herself she had "nasty surprises" for Putin! On March 5 she "resigns". On March 7 the US Embassy issues a 48hr warning. On that same day, one of terrorists was photographed at the Crocus building! On March 9 there was a huge concert by the most famous russian singer, that often sings about patriotism to Russia, a concert that had extensive security. And Russian elections were to take place later in March. You don´t need to be a genius to tie it all together! They were gonna hit on March 9, but got spooked by the extra security! So then the question is, how did the US knew about it? And why would Nuland "resign" right before it all came down? If those muppets are muslim, i´m Santa Claus! Saying the promise of allegiance with the left finger is a big NO NO to them.
i was wondering where you got the info about extra security for the 9/10/11th concerts...thanks in advance.
Or she got fired for talking about it.
@@Paul-ry5cx I wrote about that 5 minutes ago, but KZhead has already eaten my comment. There was extra security because the singer is very famous in Russia and sings about patriotism, and the authorities saw the Embassy warning. That concert had a ton of police cars at the entrances, the attack would have failed.
When interviewed, Ukraine, Chief of Defense Budanov was asked "What do you think of the terror attack in Russia? He responded "It makes me very HAPPY and attacks will get deeper and deeper into Russia." 🤔
Just based on that interview alone, it’s likely a collaboration of Budanov aka Bandera 2.0 and western intelligence, who used isis as a fig leaf.
That doesn't mean anything. You are asking a Ukrainian what he thinks about an attack on Russia. a) Of course he is going to be happy; b) he is revelling in the fact that Russia was attacked at all so that idea that he is going to go off on one about how there will be more attacks doesn't carry much weight.
@@DrSpooglemon Yes, like when Putin was asked about riots in France (who are at war with Russia) and he said 'its tough, we went through the same. But its a problem France needs to resolve' Oh wait, thats a adult response unlike the Ukrainian one about the murders.
@@r200ti bydanov is the head of the sbu who is in first place responsible but only if the US said OK
@@r200tiI didn't say the Budanov's response was "grown up".
Aaron, your opinion about Isis being involved is very wrong.
Not necessarily. We are likely to see more attacks from "ISIS" coming on Russia's southern border going forward. There is a reason Empire is trying to push the ISIS narrative from the get go.
And the CIA had nothing to do with it. 🙄
But of course not! 🤣
Nuland “nordstream will not move forward”:::::::::: preview
ISIS-K don't take money & don't expect to live after their actions
Especially if they're openly challenging Ramzan Kadyrov on Ramadan.
Those guys didn't look at all like historic ISIS Fighters. They looked like rag-tag, little men. They were probably sleeper cell activated at the appropriate time.
Strange how a supposedly uninvolved party is so quick and sure to accuse another without providing a shred of evidence.
Aaron is naive on this topic.
Like he was with Biden in the beginning.
@@jimmybraun4193 didn’t remember that. Was he? The neocons and Zionists have been there for decades. It shouldn’t have been a surprise to anyone. Biden Bush Clintons. Same backers. Same controllers. Obama was unknown at first but same money behind him. Same controllers. Trump same weird commitment to Israel but the money takes more effort to spot. Cohen, Maxwell etc.
No. He's scared.
@@tatianalyulkin410 of being called a Putin puppet?
No. His father is still alive. If Nudelman could kill my mother and Gonzalo Lira killing Gabor Mate is nothing to her and the Blake Association.
The one Who benefits is behind it
I don't think Putin did it.
@user-pj5ub5cp9k because its of no benefit to putin
Yanks and brits
Basically, the single entity MI6/MOSSAD/CIA
@@Samaa-os7hx Absolutely agree 👌
Aaron u surprised us with ur take this time...Im a little disappointed..
OMG, am I actually seeing Red John's calling card? I've been playing Patrick Jane to Nudelman's Red John since 2014. And I do call " them " the Blake Association.
Just think about how utterly wrong he was on Covid and the jabs.
Aaron, how about the fact that there killers were all captured heading toward the Ukrainian border?
They were also on their mobile phones talking to someone in Ukraine too, apparently & were being tracked by FSB.
Looks like you didn't watch this video to the end.
@@julianclegg1922😂 Nice try. That's how a gatekeeper works, they give you the part of the info that suits them, set up straw men to tear down etc. So, Aaron right at the end when everyone's fallen asleep listening to the drivel mentions that Russias claim of the perpetrators heading for the border means nothing but ignores the fact that FSB has a great deal of tracking and intelligence at their disposal and it was apparent and clear they were communicating with someone waiting to receive them across the border.
I live in Moscow and Ukraine is the closest country to flee too. ( Belarus is very difficult to enter. ) If President Putin gets concrete evidence that any Western country was behind this, then heaven help those countries.
Why would anyone expect Nuland to remain quiet about this when one only has to review her reactions when Nordstream was blown up. Woman cannot keep a secret.
People like her need to boast their handiwork.
She is disturbed and nuts.You can see that with a casual glance she is off her rocker. Just her cavalier attitude and tendency to brag about violent events.
@@williamryan9195 its worrisome.
@@kays3956 Yes. Very worrisome considering the stakes.
Nuland threatened the nord stream .... not much of a stretch.
Aaron: Keep that willingness to speak your mind and disagree with peers no matter the perception. That’s what I’m here for. I personally saw the unofficial warnings in the media as blackmail by the U.S. right from the jump.
It's an Even Steven darling. I happen to know the Gestapo/SBU better than they know themselves.
I think Aaron is right to be sceptical. It takes courage to resist the pressure to jump to conclusions that confirm our biases. Great discussion though.
he gave a decent account of himself considering what hes aware of. I think its a bit strange to take the position he did as a default position, i think max is spot on.
My dearest, even after 2014 and all that followed I'm a lot more objective and logical than the clowns from the CIA/FBI could ever hope to be. It's called " being brilliant " . Not my word, mind you- my Professors' at Queens and City College.
You guys haven't been paying enough attention to details in this event to determine whether they are really ISIS.
Isn't that strange..? 🤔 Usually they're well researched
I mean... It can still actually be isis, but who holds the lead is the actual question.
@@PageIsYourGod ItSISrael
The West
A 5 year old boy would know this. Why are adults so stupid?
See Richard Medhurst, Scott Ritter, Redacted, Jimmy Dore , The Duran on the topic.
Jimmy Dore is not in that category the Duran is overrated.. but still everyone you mentioned is by far more reliable than any corporate media
Add Colonel mc gregor, Ray Mcgovern, Larry Johnson. All on the topic
Some of my to go to sources too.
careful who you watch... ritter is not good, and the others you mentioned are info-specialists too, as nobody will touch the 'real them". Google some names and see.
I loved this discussion because the question was left open and two outstanding commentators clearly disagreed - AND THAT'S FINE! I followed several of the channels mentioned on this, but definitive yes/no answers are unhelpful and misleading. Surely the Grayzone audience are here because they are not so gullible to swallow the easy answers of the MSM?
What's up with Aaron?
He told us what's up with him at the beginning of his propaganda piece; "People may call me a GATEKEEPER"
CIA
That was a strange way to begin. Hadn’t thought of Aaron as a gatekeeper based on his Israel Palestine coverage.
Weird. He's off
He's been cloned
Even if ISIS-K is culpable that might not necessarily absolve NATO of guilt.
Love your honesty, gentlemen. Thank you. ❇️☮️
Nice hangout limitation, Aaron 😃
Aaron, blink twice if you're in danger/being held hostage!
😂😂😂
Yeah, Aaron is going to get a lot of heat for that assessment.
Not from me.
Nuland did indeed know, the attack was outside normal approval- which is why Nuland was pushed outside, just as her departing remarks were outside (outdoors).
The Beslan school siege in Russia 20 years ago by chechens was actually later outed as MI6. Similarly the London events of 7.7 2005 were also MI6, as the metropolitan police identified the mastermind of the events Haroon Rashid Aswat, an Indian, who subsequently was outed as MI6 operative. In fact all 'T' events have been perpetrated by the single entity MI6/CIA/MOSSAD, as is the Moscow event.
Clearly you are a delusional
I saw this segment on the livestream and I love it, these are my two most admired journalists and this little clash of views highlights why: Max can read between the lines and often can't help himself, while Aaron carefully refuses to do so. Absolutely love The Greyzone, thank you both for all you do!
It is pretty easy to conclude that no one from anything called ISIS-K has ever existed to call and accept the responsibility for the terrorist attack. As we know ISIS (DAESH in arabic) is an abbreviation for Islamic State in Sham (which is Syria and parts of Iraq, ...). On the other hand you have Khorasan, which is a prrovince in north-east Iran, and historically extended to Afghanistan and more. So somebody calling in saying I am calling for ISIS-K, is equivalent to someone calling inn saying I am from Kabul in Syria. You don't find such a person in Syria or in Khorasan, but probably you find hundreds of them in CIA, MI6, FSU... People there don't need to know geography or language!
Slight correction my friend. When Al-Baghdadi declared himself caliph ISIS became IS. Simply Islamic State. A caliphate without borders that will cover the whole world. IS-k is the local branch of IS. They haven’t been Islamic State of Al-Sham for many years now. Isis also use their own Islamic geographical terms as a means to show their rejection of the western colonial borders. Thus Lebanon Jordan Iraq Syria all revert back to the historical name of Bilad al Sham. They do this also refusing to call Saudi Arabia, Saudi as that gives power and acknowledgment to the “heretic” house of Al-Saud. They instead call it The Land of the Two Mosques. Meaning Mecca and Medina. So yes IS is global. They have reach in Africa, Philippines, Indonesia and many other places. Is-k is just one of many hydra heads.
@@Marshmobilise And Islamic State became global because of covert support from the US, Britain and NATO - funds, arms undercover embedded agents.
CIA, who else?
MI6?
@@user-ys5ot4sq3f Yes, very likely them too. Also Mossad.
*The O'biden Administration needs to be vacated!*
Has Aaron forgot how they previewed nordstream.
Aaron can’t be trusted at this point he sounds like plant to me.
@@sarashepard7504 he is not a plant, just wrong.
He's scared.
Absolutely NOT and ISIS... gentlemen 😊you could not be more off... I guess, I give you one here...
While ISIS-Khorasan may have had the motivation to perpetrate such an attack, as Aaron describes, he is apparently accepting without question the US administration's assertion that these assassins were, in fact, members of ISIS-K at all. Other respected analysts, who have taken the time and made the effort to consider the modus operandi of the killers have offered very compelling reasons why they were simply paid mercenaries, and not true ISIS-K fanatics. Perhaps Aaron should give his reasons for questioning their conclusions.
Well, the teenagers actually admitted they took the job for the money, but let's all ignore that and pretend they're ISIS-Kelloggs brand Cornflakes to make Aaron happy.
Exactly...more likely paid mercs by the US.
@@Samaa-os7hx Yeah it's kind of weird Aaron doesn't take issue with that. ISIS doesn't recruit with money, they indoctrinate.
You keep mentioning some "ISIS-K", Aaron, yet you won't tell us what and who that is
His buddies. Those who couldn't even be bothered to check that you don't do the shahada with your left hand before taking a selfie and exposing what a fraud they are.
@@Samaa-os7hx Exactly...supposed to be the right hand.
@@Samaa-os7hxAnd they were apprehended on their way back to Ukraine. :-/
Moderate Syrian Fighters ...
The argument V Nuland would not say about "nasty surprise" if she is involve, is not an argument in her favour, contrary. You forget she already say this about Nord Stream.
I heard that the Ukranian embassy in Tajikistan was openly advertising for men to do things like this in Russia. And that one of the gunmen was ex Ukranian military. And that these guys were trained by the Ukraine.
No all wrong
As per usual, I appreciate Aaron's sober analysis.
Amongst the best evidence based investigative journalism and debate as always. À suivre. L’heure est grave. Merci infiniment. 🙏🏼🕯🕯🙏🏼 Paris
I think the reason they let Nuland go is that she anounced about surprise attack on Russia.
I obviously have no idea who did it, but as mentioned Ukraine has a history of terror attacks and they have mercs operating amongst them who are very capable of plotting this sort of attack.. Also the way western media has come out immediately to say “it’s not Ukraine’ makes more suspicious that it’s Ukraine and not less so. Also I should mention that I have a large number of Russian friends and even before the Kremlin said anything they were quite sure that Ukraine was either guilty of planning this or supportive of the attack. Whatever the truth Russia will be retaliating if only because of the public pressure todo so
Of course Ukraine has employed terror tactics. Look at their kill list " MYROTVORETS ” . Funded by cia in Langley and Warsaw ( shows on its website ) Even Russian kids are on this list . Faina Savenkova , 14 yrs old was interviewed by western independent journalist . Find it , really interesting and not mentioned in any western media enterprise.
Hmm, bit surprised by your analysis. Driving towards the most locked down border doesn't seem to make much sense to me, unless you have reason to believe you can get through it. Also, Milley made a statement saying that he wanted every Russian to not know whether they would wake up with their throats cut. True, it seems to be a bit of a departure for Ukraine and the West to terrorise concert goers, but is it so much different to shelling markets in Donetsk ?
Aaron........Naive
NON OF THEM WOULD OF DONE IT ON RAMADAN !
need to check that out
But Vicky Nudelman would- in a millisecond! Just think- she totally " destroyed " Ramadan for Ramzan and me. My darling Boa Constrictor, my patience is not infinite.
Mate has been *Compromised*
Afraid so. And I think I know how.
I am a 60 year old white male, retired Chicago firefighter… I literally hate my government… And duck the FBI if you’re listening to me
There’s cellular data linking their exit to Ukraine, see Ritter.
Ritter is a mouthpiece for the Russian Ministry of Defence.
He currently resides in the USA. And according to you, the American intelligence agencies are just allowing Scott Ritter to run a InfoOp. While he is on the Kremlin's Payroll. Meanwhile they wanted to murder Assange for publishing. How stupid are you?
@@user-pj5ub5cp9k Show proof.
@@user-pj5ub5cp9k Hahaha. He is too smart to undermine Russian capabilities. Not like Zelensky is a mouthpiece of US in Ukraine or Levy is a mouthpiece of Israel in UK. Unlike Ritter, Zelensky and Levy wants war.
They were caught driving back to Ukraine and making phone calls to Ukraine Phone #'s in Ukraine
Didn't Biden advertise nordstream, so why wouldn't nuland advertise the Crocus attack!
A good source on this is Dmitry Orlov. He's pushing out facts
Victoria Nuland threatened gas pipe and guess what happened. So why won’t she carry out threat again
Aaron does this thing where he says Nuland was just talking about normal warfare when she said she had an 'asymmetric surprise' for Russia but the purpose of the word asymmetric is doing there is indicating it is not normal warfare, it is abnormal. And one of its specific meanings is terrorism. In fact the only type of asymmetric warfare we've seen take place in this war is the Ukrainian terrorism. I don't mind him discounting the idea I do mind him making up his own definition of what she was talking about.
God bless Max and Aaron for honestly and freely disagreeing as to the perpetrator of this crime. Aaron, Max is your guide here. Thanks to both of you.
When the state department lies so much, what are we left with but our own presumptions and conspiracies?
Nobody does this terror for money that’s ridiculous they would not risk getting caught, there is something deeper usually their family is threaten and they have no choice but to do this crime.
OMG- my comment gets removed the minute after I wrote it! Shit, give the girl the Pavel Sudoplatov Memorial Award!
Brandon previewed the Nordstream pipeline destruction. Nuland didn't mention terror attack she said nasty surprises.
She mentioned nasty surprises in the context of asymmetric warfare. Moreover, Ukraine is incapable of producing any (nasty) surprises on the battlefield. They can do terrorism and PsyOps and that's about it.
@@BlackGoatofQohor Thats what i was hinting at. The Ukraine are no match for Russia on the battlefield so obviously terror attacks are is what Nuland was talking about. Mi6 have experience of how successful and devastating terror attacks can be after IRA then isis exploits on British soil
Why would any Muslim ever say the shahada raising their left hand, as those perpetrators did?
Perhaps war criminal Nuland has "retired" as Allen Dulles "retired" after being sacked by JFK...
Guys, come on now! People at her level don't get fired- they " resign ". When Ben Shapiro talks about Candice- does he say " she was fired " ? No, of course not! They had " creative disagreements ".
Oh Aron!
Aaron has been GOT AT.
I think it was Capone in THE UNTOUCHABLES who said that everyone can be gotten to. But my " naive " question is- what does that have to do with " freedom and democracy " ?
As Michael Hudson says , the US's Foreign Legion - ISIS etc - he hits it dead on.
Yes Aaron you are gatekeeping.
There were many civilian victims of her terrorist coup.
But of course. She and Kolomojsky are the Butchers of Odessa.
Что мы ИГИЛу сделали. Мусульмане в России живут мирно, в Татарстане, на Кавказе. Это были не фанатики, это были просто наёмники. за 500 тысяч рублей согласились.
да не было там никакого игила, поэтому и лица забрюлили, и голоса изменили, а так делают только спецслужбы
ISIS is founded by CIA amd Mossad
It wasn’t ISIS. It was Ukraine and USA. Putin says di and I think he wouldn’t say it unless he was certain.
Seymour Hersh got into Aarons head. So sad. Max, it’s you against them all .
What did Seymour Hersh say?
@@hotkayz think about it, what hasn’t he mentioned?
@@deliofernandez8580 I also don't get it, can you explain?
explain @@deliofernandez8580
Aaron makes the most sense on this issue.
Aaron’s great, but he doesn’t have a clear understanding of the subject just yet.
Could you please interview Maajid Nawaz - he has a different view and the debate would be illuminating for us the viewer.
Check back through Patrick Lancaster’s uploads, particularly during the fighting around Bahkmut - I definitely remember soldiers from either Wagner or local Donbass militias talking about militant islamists among the Ukrainian forces, calling them “ Isis cannibals”. It shouldn’t be surprising that the fascist Banderites would enlist allies of this type.
Well, everyone knows the Banderites fought in Chechnya!
Have you heard of Dennis Utkin the ex deputy leader of Wagner he is what a neo Nazi looks like
George Galloway, Scott Ritter, Lawrence Wilkerson, Ray McGovern, Alastair Crooke, Jeffery Sachs, Douglas Macgregor, John Mearsheimer…reference the position of these individuals on Crocus Theater
Well, I'm " Team Lira " so what Scott says is highly irrelevant to me. But I would trust Uncle Ray and Uncle Doug with the lives of my brothers and my precious nephews and nieces.
A list of ill informed Russian propagandist all of them delusional;
The warning on March 7th came at the heel of this. MOSCOW, March 7. /TASS/. The Russian FSB prevented an armed attack on parishioners of one of the Moscow synagogues; the members of the Islamic State cell (IS, an organization recognized as terrorist and banned in the Russian Federation) who prepared it were neutralized in the Kaluga region. This was reported to TASS by the Public Relations Center (PSC) of the FSB of Russia.
the time was 4pm approximately that the TASS article was published using wayback machine to see the early cluster, Moscow Times at 5pm and the Embassy Alert around 6pm...
@@Paul-ry5cx The FSB does recognize the existence on ISIS-K cells in Russia
Thanks!
Would Jihadists attack during Ramadan, and real Jihadists stay in the building and die there? I think escaping and giving up to get arrested is not like a real Jihadist should do, or is ISIS not a real Jihadist org
yes, very cowardly thing to do.
During Ramadan? Yes since ISIS is Isntreali Secret Intelligence Services. They are known to do this sort of stuff during Ramadan.
The answer is " no ".
Great discussion on the attack between Max and Aaron. Both made good points to consider.