Black Christians vs Black Atheists | Middle Ground

2024 ж. 14 Мам.
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0:00 Intro
0:30 The Black Church shaped Black Culture
12:50 Ground Shoutout
14:27 As a Black person, people always assume that I'm Christian
25:20 Patreon Exclusive prompt - The Black Church is better than the White Church
25:27 The Church has helped Black people more than the government
41:32 I've considered exploring other religions or leaving the church
51:54 Christianity is inherently racist
1:03:32 Final Thoughts

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  • An exclusive prompt from Middle Ground: Black Christians vs Black Atheists is now up on our Patreon👉 “The Black Church is better than the White Church” www.patreon.com/jubileemedia

    @jubilee@jubileeАй бұрын
    • Why did you drop this on Easter?

      @Christian-ut2sp@Christian-ut2spАй бұрын
    • im not christian but i respect the christian or catholic woman in the mosaic shirt for coming with facts and respecting other ppl's beliefs, need more christians in the world like her

      @user-kq2we1ex3h@user-kq2we1ex3hАй бұрын
    • Why not? ​@@Christian-ut2sp

      @boparks3204@boparks3204Ай бұрын
    • Because it’s needed

      @sabrenabrantley6200@sabrenabrantley6200Ай бұрын
    • @@user-kq2we1ex3h Agreed. I aspire to be like her.

      @aloe704@aloe704Ай бұрын
  • Getting mad at someone for saying Bless You when you sneeze is so dense.

    @NTH0921@NTH0921Ай бұрын
    • at no point did she ‘get mad’, she just explained that saying that seems to presuppose a common belief in a deity.

      @lisarowe3010@lisarowe3010Ай бұрын
    • or Amen. 😂😂😂 craziness.

      @DailyDoseOfRuth@DailyDoseOfRuthАй бұрын
    • no one was mad tho,

      @cubism4416@cubism4416Ай бұрын
    • but she wasn't mad. You missed her point.

      @Pasta_Water@Pasta_WaterАй бұрын
    • @@Pasta_Water She scoffed at the idea. She wasn't happy about it either and completely overlooked the counterargument which made a lot of sense.

      @NTH0921@NTH0921Ай бұрын
  • Arab Christian vs Arab Muslim. I wanna know what they think of each other.

    @xx-kj1om@xx-kj1omАй бұрын
    • which arabic countries allow the bible to be preached? like Saudi Arabia doesn't allow crosses, doesn't allow bibles to be brought in to be given to anyone, doesn't allow the building of "churches"

      @justanobody0@justanobody0Ай бұрын
    • ​@@justanobody0 its arab not arabic. Arabic is the language, and Arab describes the people. There are plenty of practicing Christians and churches all across the middle east and north africa . There are also 1.8 billion muslims across the world, Saudi Arabia makes up a fraction of that figure; they do not, nor can they, represent all arab nations.

      @sammy-er7on@sammy-er7onАй бұрын
    • Why not Arab Muslims vs Arab Atheists?

      @TheRatSquid@TheRatSquidАй бұрын
    • @@justanobody0 Arab muslim countries are intolerant to Christians and other religions, but want to force us to give them refuge at our expense.

      @JohnDoe-bh2lp@JohnDoe-bh2lpАй бұрын
    • @@sammy-er7on "Saudi Arabia makes up a fraction of that figure; they do not, nor can they, represent all arab nations." Where do certain people pray towards? is it Saudi Arabia or some other country there is only one country they say they have to travel to, and they say it's better to do it more than once They say they have to pray only in the language that came from Saudi Arabia

      @justanobody0@justanobody0Ай бұрын
  • Saying that the black church hasn’t shaped black culture is arguing for the sake of arguing. It’s literally a fact, the next question came up and we’re instantly referencing the black church again.

    @LaurynTamia@LaurynTamiaАй бұрын
    • Agreed. You don't choose the past, you choose the future. It's like saying America was not built on the back of slavery. Or that eugenics didn't have a huge influence on western culture.

      @labranehit7687@labranehit7687Ай бұрын
    • The point of the questions is to “argue”, to get the conversations and opinions rolling on the subject.

      @deanecarlson@deanecarlson18 сағат бұрын
  • I love how he's against religion, but he treats blackness as if it is a religion

    @maxpower4868@maxpower4868Ай бұрын
    • Exactly clocked that tea

      @Flock.chris_@Flock.chris_29 күн бұрын
    • It is his religion. We all worship something 💯

      @nini_nunez@nini_nunez27 күн бұрын
    • @@nini_nunez Then he shouldn't be in a video publicly speaking out against religion. That was my point.

      @maxpower4868@maxpower486827 күн бұрын
    • @@maxpower4868 I agree with you

      @nini_nunez@nini_nunez27 күн бұрын
    • gottem!

      @knockda887@knockda88727 күн бұрын
  • Black Christians vs Black Muslims would be interesting, especially considering the history of the Civil Rights Movement and the leaders, many of whom were either devout Christians or Muslims

    @gaminglegend@gaminglegendАй бұрын
    • only if the Christians were educated on the crazy anti-blackness in Islam

      @bbhdd6181@bbhdd6181Ай бұрын
    • Just christians vs muslims. No need to add black in there

      @Jk-ow8ny@Jk-ow8nyАй бұрын
    • ​@Jk-ow8ny I think there's alr an episode like that

      @fastersalt85sega25@fastersalt85sega25Ай бұрын
    • That would be Very different as they've had Muslim and Christian convos of varying races in the past.

      @heathertea2704@heathertea2704Ай бұрын
    • @@Jk-ow8nynope their is a need to add black their cuz black Christians and Muslims have a unique experience a lotta of us wanna hear and relate too

      @nyzeardenga9861@nyzeardenga9861Ай бұрын
  • I feel like this episode had a lot more educated people than the average Jubilee episode. Like it actually felt like a discussion where people who were semi-experts in their particular subjects spoke.

    @coalnel3089@coalnel3089Ай бұрын
    • And paradoxically it was the Christians who were more educated

      @angrybirdo@angrybirdoАй бұрын
    • thankfully! Jubilee be a mess sp much of the time

      @user_05160@user_05160Ай бұрын
    • I totally agree. They all made their points in such a succinct, informed manner.

      @AdultHumanXX@AdultHumanXXАй бұрын
    • "his feets was black"

      @Joe-sg9ll@Joe-sg9llАй бұрын
    • Hit different don’t it? All these panel shows need more of this.

      @MonkeyB5@MonkeyB5Ай бұрын
  • I’ve noticed a lot of ppl are against Christianity because of personal experiences NOT the actual religion . They have issues with “the people of the church” and that needs to be clarified.

    @tinkatikd@tinkatikdАй бұрын
    • But if a majority of the people of the church are acting a certain way then that says something about the religion itself

      @nataliaorocio3871@nataliaorocio387128 күн бұрын
    • ⁠@@nataliaorocio3871no…it says a lot about PEOPLE. Bc the Bible goes against every kind of evil. Which is why the lady you responded to says that people have a problem with Christians themselves NOT Christianity. Bc Christian’s are the representatives of Christianity.

      @OUT1AWFORMAL@OUT1AWFORMAL28 күн бұрын
    • @@nataliaorocio3871 its not a majority, it's just a loud minority

      @AaronYUHH@AaronYUHH27 күн бұрын
    • No it’s very much both lol

      @inezaa@inezaa27 күн бұрын
    • @@inezaa saying that doesn’t make it true. You have to actually give a valid argument

      @OUT1AWFORMAL@OUT1AWFORMAL27 күн бұрын
  • Wooow he really thought he ate at James Harden though💀

    @oriannedalmeida6540@oriannedalmeida654026 күн бұрын
    • yeah i got some secondhand embarrassment there lol

      @SashaLand@SashaLand22 күн бұрын
    • Ikr , he's gonna grow up watch this back and cringe.

      @johnankrah299@johnankrah29915 күн бұрын
    • I was looking for this comment 😂

      @savageunitato100@savageunitato10014 күн бұрын
    • Extremely cringe

      @ELCHICOBOMBAOFFICIAL@ELCHICOBOMBAOFFICIAL13 күн бұрын
    • and he did lmfao just bc u didn’t like the delivery doesn’t mean it’s not true

      @sydney6818@sydney681813 күн бұрын
  • This seems to be more about Black Christians vs Pro Black with a hint of Atheism

    @TubeCritic@TubeCriticАй бұрын
    • Well, it's because Christian religion is deeply ingrained in American black culture. It's been used as a way to control, not just giving a sense of community. It still affects the black community negatively even today.

      @cjgt77@cjgt77Ай бұрын
    • I sort of think that American Christianity is anti-Black.... (not the people in the video, but in general)

      @jfoot2732@jfoot2732Ай бұрын
    • Yep.

      @ourcorrectopinions6824@ourcorrectopinions6824Ай бұрын
    • Pro Black and hint of Afro-Spiritual Atheism*

      @ADxtraIsHere@ADxtraIsHereАй бұрын
    • Agreed

      @ewatts9992@ewatts9992Ай бұрын
  • Wearing an inverted cross and saying “keep your religion to yourself” is CRAZY.

    @lewcy@lewcyАй бұрын
    • Is she satanist??

      @natnailsit@natnailsitАй бұрын
    • and the fact that an inverted cross isn’t even ‘Anti-Christ’ at all it’s Saint Peter’s cross😂

      @rileyfreeman4096@rileyfreeman4096Ай бұрын
    • Real

      @maliaspams@maliaspamsАй бұрын
    • ​@@rileyfreeman4096who?

      @M4RZ1Z@M4RZ1ZАй бұрын
    • @@rileyfreeman4096 look at you educating me lol. Silly demons😅

      @lewcy@lewcyАй бұрын
  • really liked Roxy in this episode. She articulated her points fairly and well. When she was asked by Tyler about "how blackness came about" She stood her ground. That wasn't even the prompt. Tyler was way out of the line of questioning. Sometimes we need to sit and listen. Be slow to speak

    @jaidelyss.4913@jaidelyss.491321 күн бұрын
  • we fight not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places Ephesians 6:12

    @stasiaa8249@stasiaa824928 күн бұрын
    • Amen

      @Jdawk.@Jdawk.5 күн бұрын
  • She did not duck and dodge she said its not her expertise. I found that responsible.

    @queenmommy2756@queenmommy2756Ай бұрын
    • Refusing to learn but speaking on a situation or subject is ducking & pure ignorance tho 😕

      @motorc1tye206@motorc1tye20629 күн бұрын
    • Did she say she didnt wanna learn? She listened to the guy speaking no?

      @glowbychels@glowbychels28 күн бұрын
    • I agree. There are way too many people these days who try and speak on stuff they know nothing about.

      @jadasimmons7534@jadasimmons753427 күн бұрын
    • @@motorc1tye206 you want her to talk about stuff she doesn’t know huhh… 😕 she even let fam cook before carrying on

      @KeonRouse@KeonRouse26 күн бұрын
    • I know....she just told him that was not her expertise

      @Millie_the_Mermaid@Millie_the_Mermaid23 күн бұрын
  • I don’t like him telling that woman she MUST put blackness over any other part of her identity

    @uraddiictOnx3@uraddiictOnx3Ай бұрын
    • These extreme ideologies only cause more division and ultimately lead to genocide

      @Gcx.7@Gcx.7Ай бұрын
    • I did appreciate it, though he could have given a simpler explanation of why. It's simply the fact that her blackness is the first thing people will see when she walks into a room. It's human nature to label someone, and frankly, most people will label a black woman as loud and aggressive. They don't care if she gardens, paints, or sells houses. The only thing they see until she speaks is that she is a black woman.

      @abblejooce1293@abblejooce1293Ай бұрын
    • You don't like it because you do not understand fully what it is to be black/ to be of African Descent

      @marthakaronga6352@marthakaronga6352Ай бұрын
    • People obsessed with race are cringe

      @FactStorm@FactStormАй бұрын
    • @@aprilotero7448 black feminism does not say that. black feminism recognises the unique and intersectional experiences that black women face because of their race and sex/gender. that idea of putting blackness over being a woman is all him.

      @latrinity2412@latrinity2412Ай бұрын
  • So here we have seven people who want to have a genuine conversation, and then we have Tyler.

    @BigPapiCapone@BigPapiCapone25 күн бұрын
    • He was spittin’, though

      @jedidiah6854@jedidiah685414 күн бұрын
    • He's just not brainwashed and I bet its rough for him talking to cultitst who talk to a toothfairy, insane tbh

      @jesegat2789@jesegat278913 күн бұрын
    • @@jedidiah6854 yeah if you count drooling

      @BigPapiCapone@BigPapiCapone12 күн бұрын
    • @@jesegat2789what are you talking about dude💀

      @SM_MEX@SM_MEX11 күн бұрын
    • @@SM_MEX Its hard to have a conversation with someone whos delusional

      @jesegat2789@jesegat278911 күн бұрын
  • jackie hill and preston perry would’ve been amaaaaziiiiiing in this!! great content 🫶🏻

    @user-ly1ey6qc7d@user-ly1ey6qc7d26 күн бұрын
    • I don't think the athiests would have been prepared for them. They're way too educated lol.

      @quantaviousjenkins7667@quantaviousjenkins766713 күн бұрын
    • I was just about to comment this!!!

      @sausage12ify@sausage12ify8 күн бұрын
  • I love watching black educated men and women have a discussion; this was beautiful

    @g.agenaral6543@g.agenaral6543Ай бұрын
    • religion and education are contradictory

      @user-hi4ww4eu7o@user-hi4ww4eu7oАй бұрын
    • @@user-hi4ww4eu7othank you, Religion is literally the process of saying “no proof or evidence?? I don’t care i believe what i want”. which is the most anti-science mindset one could ever have

      @johnbishop1025@johnbishop1025Ай бұрын
    • Same. I loved this episode

      @brobinson2150@brobinson2150Ай бұрын
    • ⁠@@johnbishop1025you can be religious and educated it's not that deep

      @charky6683@charky6683Ай бұрын
    • ​@@user-hi4ww4eu7o ??

      @silvernightskin@silvernightskinАй бұрын
  • “Don’t mix church and state!”….”The church is not political enough” Make up your mind. But we all know the proper answer would not be the latter.

    @MadamMari@MadamMari29 күн бұрын
    • He’s talking about utilizing the church’s power in the black community and the money it collects from black people to push for black progression politically. Not that we need more Religious based laws.

      @TheMFStudios@TheMFStudios6 күн бұрын
    • @@TheMFStudios The first inevitably leads to the second.

      @AppleOfThineEye@AppleOfThineEye5 күн бұрын
  • Roxie, if you see this. I'm a SERIOUS fan🥺. You're so intelligent!!

    @thecatholicnextdoor3058@thecatholicnextdoor3058Ай бұрын
  • I’m black and atheist, I don’t agree with that Amen argument. I grew up religious, and it’s just the way I and others talk. I don’t think amen is pushing religion at all

    @sierraalice8072@sierraalice8072Ай бұрын
    • As an atheist, I say bless you when someone sneezes. It’s not that deep to me 🤷🏾‍♀️

      @ajh.4131@ajh.4131Ай бұрын
    • @@ajh.4131 exactly

      @sierraalice8072@sierraalice8072Ай бұрын
    • So would you be ok with neo na because it´s just the way they talk?

      @PROVOCATEURSK@PROVOCATEURSKАй бұрын
    • @@PROVOCATEURSKno I obviously would not.

      @koalaplays8855@koalaplays8855Ай бұрын
    • Agreed, it’s not that deep, I love when ppl of other religions address me with theirs as well

      @gravitycore1@gravitycore1Ай бұрын
  • Tyler hated when Christians didn’t want to answer a question but mans literally dodged questions they gave him and bounced around topics that no one was talking about 😭

    @totallytaly1652@totallytaly1652Ай бұрын
    • Easter worshippers are hypocrites

      @hermanbrachey7653@hermanbrachey7653Ай бұрын
    • Exactly! To me he’s a victim, he’s one of those black people that literally walk around mad at the world.

      @taylarjaasu@taylarjaasuАй бұрын
    • he also accidentally spat on the moderator

      @nicknickson3650@nicknickson3650Ай бұрын
    • He showed up with a script. Wasn't really there for discourse.

      @dogsandyoga1743@dogsandyoga1743Ай бұрын
    • @@dogsandyoga1743that’s how most Christians interact with you on these topics

      @Dante_Seth@Dante_SethАй бұрын
  • Big dude didn’t eat before the debate boy feisty asf 😂

    @luisgarciaocampo2414@luisgarciaocampo2414Ай бұрын
  • I’m not black and cannot speak on that, but I will say, the mediator took a lot of time to let the atheists speak first. ALWAYS said “let them finish” before one of the Christian’s could speak and then cut to the next prompt before we saw a response. I know they had to edit this down, but even referencing “a lesser of two evils…” no follow up questions for the Christian’s. Doesn’t seem to be an unbiased discussion

    @chloefirebaugh6006@chloefirebaugh600629 күн бұрын
    • Thank you for this. I saw it too and genuinely wanted to hear the follow ups of the Christians..

      @renee7394@renee7394Күн бұрын
  • Being mad about someone saying amen is so ridiculous

    @Euphoriclove@EuphoricloveАй бұрын
    • no cause its cringe and makes me wanna throw up

      @cocoalovelife8849@cocoalovelife8849Ай бұрын
    • @@cocoalovelife8849and we still going to say it

      @glowbychels@glowbychels28 күн бұрын
    • @@cocoalovelife8849 if you feel that way there’s some demon in you for sure

      @ARandomChristianGuy@ARandomChristianGuy28 күн бұрын
    • @@cocoalovelife8849amen to you

      @m-777@m-77727 күн бұрын
    • bro where do u see or sense any madness coming from Mandisa or Coco?

      @wop2784@wop278427 күн бұрын
  • Educated black men and women having an educated conversation is so refreshing. Thank you for this content!

    @DominiqueSpeaks@DominiqueSpeaksАй бұрын
    • then read Thomas Sowell.

      @thebestofallworlds187@thebestofallworlds187Ай бұрын
    • This isn’t a rare occurrence ! 🙄

      @pipedownpaulneatyourpudding@pipedownpaulneatyourpuddingАй бұрын
    • I wish it was a more efficient conversation...this one disappointed in sooo many ways.

      @Sincerelytahj8252@Sincerelytahj8252Ай бұрын
    • @@thebestofallworlds187People aren’t interested in losing brain cells.

      @swindleacademy@swindleacademyАй бұрын
    • @DominiqueSpeaks I was thinking the same. All intellectuals👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

      @user-vg5dj6qi9b@user-vg5dj6qi9bАй бұрын
  • One thing that upsets me is when other people try to tell Christians what Christians believe, what they think or what they are doing FROM THE OUTSIDE

    @ShesSoControversial@ShesSoControversial25 күн бұрын
    • A lot of atheists, ESPECIALLY black ones, are ex Christian’s, and have seen the inside

      @macmaster3622@macmaster362218 күн бұрын
    • Yes! The presuppositions that people will make regarding Christian teachings can be way off.

      @sarahsays194@sarahsays19413 күн бұрын
  • It was how everybody calmly delivered their points without it being chaotic. Kudos to the sound points each gave. This is how a debate is supposed to be, listening to respond

    @OkwudiliUzoigwe@OkwudiliUzoigweАй бұрын
    • except for Tyler. he just wanted to get his point across.

      @Graceliving23@Graceliving2321 күн бұрын
    • Listening to respond is a poor listening technique and is how aggression and stalemates are generated. Listening to understand is how schemas diverge, creativity is fostered, and perspectives are broadened.

      @davestarns8317@davestarns83179 күн бұрын
  • The moderator did a horrible job. Tyler consistently interrupted others but when they tried to explain their point, he would say let him finish. Clearly someones bias

    @devkal@devkalАй бұрын
    • No fr I noticed that too

      @yahninaax7075@yahninaax7075Ай бұрын
    • @Jubilee please take note, it was too much

      @JameSackey@JameSackeyАй бұрын
    • Many of you just don't like Tyler because he is for blk empowerment.. because there is nothing wrong with the points he was making

      @kdooley41@kdooley41Ай бұрын
    • ⁠@@kdooley41 Who said anything was wrong with the points he made? He spoke over everyone and his manor was unpleasant. The O/P commented on how the moderator was bias and allowed this but made everyone else wait til he was finished to respond, it was not equitable. Has nothing to do with his points.

      @cassyvjlee5925@cassyvjlee5925Ай бұрын
    • yall trippin

      @makiyahsmith9817@makiyahsmith9817Ай бұрын
  • I was born and raised Jewish, but am more agnostic atheist these days. I never got offended or mad when someone would say "merry christmas" or "bless you" or something like that. To this day, I simply say "thanks, you too!" Why? Because I am happy that a stranger took time out of their day to say something nice to me. I never understood why people get offended by such things.

    @The_Moderates_Apprentice@The_Moderates_ApprenticeАй бұрын
    • *That's because you never had your ENTIRE CULTURE/HERITAGE STOLEN from you.*

      @Welcome2Wokeanda@Welcome2WokeandaАй бұрын
    • Plus, the majority of the people around your vicinity are Christians, so it is very normal for people to assume that you are a Christian, I'm also an agnostic atheist and I say "walahi"....it's just what I grew up around

      @wholenewszn@wholenewsznАй бұрын
    • I wonder why people are agnostic atheists

      @andreaj5067@andreaj5067Ай бұрын
    • Not harsh, but open minded!..

      @anonymouslee8287@anonymouslee828729 күн бұрын
    • It can be rude to assume another person's religious outlook. And sometimes a non-religious person is highly aware of the forceful nature of religion due to trauma. Despite claims that religion is peaceful, many places in the world suffer from religious dogma, and non-adherence resulting in corporal punishment. As an ex-Muslim, being told things like "Ramadaan kareem" reminds me of the fact that parents can beat their children for not fasting or being given a kiss on the cheeks after someone came from prayer reminds me of how I was beat up by my father for not making solaah because the Quran told my parents to do so. I saw many Muslim friends badly beat up by a father who took things too far. Mine did the same. Every religion has it's problems like this - and while most atheists have very rational reasons for exiting the religion, some remain scarred. Some atheists are passionate about a world where we don't assume that everyone simply thinks like us, a world where we're curious about the other person. Objectivity and individuality will always be squashed with a mindset where a religious person walks down the street, sees someone who looks like them and so feels camaraderie in their assumption that they're of the same faith. Religion is often psychologically damaging to many people - no doubt, it offers peace to many as well. But these are important discussions that are being sacrificed due to the skewed mindset on part of the religious person and prioritizing niceties on part of the atheist. If many atheists can show interest and respect for who the next person is and what their views are, then that stops them from showing the same for us?

      @diyalectic52@diyalectic527 күн бұрын
  • Boy, I use to be like Tyler about my race (Native American), but I got saved a few years ago and I have been at peace with my decision to choose Christ over my ethnicity ❤

    @cat0707@cat0707Ай бұрын
    • All are adopted into the family of Christ❤

      @brycegladwin8087@brycegladwin8087Ай бұрын
    • ✨✨✨✨

      @Simz199x@Simz199x26 күн бұрын
    • Amen 🙏🏾 ❤ me too

      @charlenebobua2017@charlenebobua201726 күн бұрын
    • This!

      @miram2053@miram205325 күн бұрын
    • ❤️🙏🏾

      @audreya3127@audreya312725 күн бұрын
  • Woah, this is one of the most interesting conversations ever put on this channel. Thank you. And thank you for making it an hour long.

    @avivastudios2311@avivastudios231121 күн бұрын
  • The Catholic girl in the multi colored shirt touched on a fact I was going to make. Christianity has roots in Africa years before Europeans went there. Kudos to her.

    @mayacincosa6975@mayacincosa6975Ай бұрын
    • It was a minority. Christianity was introduced to black people mainly through the Transatlantic slave trade. And since then it has been used to control and manipulate black people for the worst

      @HURT108@HURT108Ай бұрын
    • Yeah, like ONE place 😂 Africa is HUGE, And there was only one country it was found in.

      @kyiasimone1869@kyiasimone1869Ай бұрын
    • @@kyiasimone1869most regions start in one place then spread. They took the gospel and spread it. That comment was to debunk that Christianity is not a white mans religion

      @aadesida37@aadesida37Ай бұрын
    • @@aadesida37 Most of Africa did not believe in Abrahamic faiths, and did not start believing it by CHOICE…

      @stevonwhite8933@stevonwhite8933Ай бұрын
    • Not true though

      @sephoramandondo2548@sephoramandondo2548Ай бұрын
  • Not on a Easter Sunday 😂😭

    @codyfloydactor@codyfloydactorАй бұрын
    • I'm Christian and think it's pretty relevant

      @qwertpoo1@qwertpoo1Ай бұрын
    • They are diabolical for that lol

      @daniellej2328@daniellej2328Ай бұрын
    • Invisible Transes Day

      @whateverwhatever4026@whateverwhatever4026Ай бұрын
    • 🤣🤣

      @TobiasTheTraveler@TobiasTheTravelerАй бұрын
    • Underrated comment. 😆

      @TheTomboy345@TheTomboy345Ай бұрын
  • Mandisa, I love hearing her speak...it makes me want to tune in to classic Atheist Experience episodes when she was Co-hosting.

    @eyeswideopen7199@eyeswideopen7199Ай бұрын
  • The guy with the golden shirt just makes stuff up but he's confident in the way he says it so people go along with what he says.

    @james8816@james881623 күн бұрын
  • Black Christians vs Hebrew Israelites next please. I would definitely get my popcorn out for that one if ykyk

    @adrien1623@adrien1623Ай бұрын
    • Oh that would be spicy 😆

      @jasonrwhitingjr@jasonrwhitingjrАй бұрын
    • 😂😂😂😂

      @cater2me1@cater2me1Ай бұрын
    • Who are Hebrew Israelites lol

      @adhkhjcdar634@adhkhjcdar634Ай бұрын
    • Me too 🍿

      @nicolecooper1569@nicolecooper1569Ай бұрын
    • You mean Jews? Israelis?

      @luciannebeans6679@luciannebeans6679Ай бұрын
  • Being an African and seeing how black Americans see Africa is so interesting. Come here then, come and open those businesses, come and do the change here. It’s really hard everywhere not just America.

    @DumisaniEKadango@DumisaniEKadangoАй бұрын
    • As a black American 🇺🇸, I will never understand why people look at Africans as incapable individuals who were forced to believe in Christ or any other belief without choice. This burns me up. People make it seem like Africans are just ignorant and need the saving of “Black Americans”. Absolutely ridiculous!

      @Ash-sh9bo@Ash-sh9bo28 күн бұрын
    • That's because we know nothing about a continent we have zero connections to and a lot of us believe that we do know about Africa, have roots to it, etc etc and it's cringe.

      @konpeitosama@konpeitosama14 күн бұрын
    • Thiiis

      @JK-rk9ze@JK-rk9ze10 күн бұрын
    • Black people in America have been here for over 400 years, whatever culture we had from Africa is loooong gone. Our culture is exclusively American.

      @joec.1766@joec.17665 күн бұрын
    • @@joec.1766 Honey, whatever makes u sleep at night

      @Alfred-ut4rn@Alfred-ut4rn3 күн бұрын
  • Love how they all hugged at the end. These conversations are needed because sometimes people just want answers and clarity. I pray they all come to know and accept Christ. 🥰🙏🏽

    @missbossy143@missbossy14327 күн бұрын
  • I love Roxie! She was sooooo spot on about relativism! And absolutely spot on about the victim mentality! I could listen to her all day if she had a podcast. She said I'm much more than my race and to say otherwise is demeaning! Truth!!!!! The simple fact that she takes the same position as Morgan Freeman (his video on racism is basically a masterclass on it) on we're not victims anymore speaks volumes!

    @bran7134@bran7134Ай бұрын
  • Someone should tell Tyler the Bible doesn’t say, “his feet was BLACK as brass.”

    @lifeoflaroda@lifeoflarodaАй бұрын
    • Yes, should have been instant correction there.

      @chrischreative2245@chrischreative2245Ай бұрын
    • This is one of those you get the point things .

      @MB-mg6ky@MB-mg6kyАй бұрын
    • And His hair was white like wool

      @ani_cir@ani_cirАй бұрын
    • Skin like brass (brown) and hair like wool (African).

      @SetInMotion@SetInMotionАй бұрын
    • It does say that though ...which bible have you not been reading?

      @MatthewBretton-cu2el@MatthewBretton-cu2elАй бұрын
  • What’s the point of a moderator if all he’s gonna do is cut off everyone just let one dude speak?

    @AyYoWinston@AyYoWinstonАй бұрын
    • Thought the exact same thing. It literally would’ve been better off without one

      @dumbgenious1960@dumbgenious1960Ай бұрын
    • It’s probably the edit

      @niavela66@niavela66Ай бұрын
    • Moderator is there push the conversation and keep things on track. If a mod notices certain points worth talking about, you’d create challenging questions for other to chime in on.

      @1Atlkid@1AtlkidАй бұрын
    • The moderator needs to moderate and pull other voices in and stop one voice from speaking over the others.

      @heatherdeitchman1409@heatherdeitchman1409Ай бұрын
    • Because that one dude is cool and he has swagger

      @ST-df5lw@ST-df5lwАй бұрын
  • LOVE these longer form videos Jubilee. Keep it up!

    @Entooelle@Entooelle21 күн бұрын
  • This was thoughtful and thought provoking! Keep up the wonderful work.

    @micah9593@micah959329 күн бұрын
  • Tyler needs a reality check. Being black isn’t the only quality that we have 🙄

    @gracekerman@gracekermanАй бұрын
    • Fr

      @Flock.chris_@Flock.chris_29 күн бұрын
    • he hella nationalistic and ethnocentric

      @kory.j6561@kory.j656129 күн бұрын
    • He never said that was our only quality stop putting words in people's mouths

      @BushidoXBrown@BushidoXBrown27 күн бұрын
    • @@BushidoXBrownThat’s basically what he said. Stop being mad at Christians for believing in Christianity. How about that.

      @erikarobinson3557@erikarobinson355726 күн бұрын
    • @@erikarobinson3557 judging by your tongue you're the one getting mad. I didn't hear that. Christians act like being attacked for simple reasons. Nobody cares if your REALLY what to throw problem on wizard. Problem is anybody else is not willing to. Don't get mad. Or see anything other another wacky ancient books from ignorant barbarian that barely have wisdom swap kids with goat in sacrifice. That wouldn't work anyway.

      @user-vj4ss1ur2r@user-vj4ss1ur2r25 күн бұрын
  • should’ve chose a better moderator for this one. this guy was so rude to let those guys cut off the lady speaking but when she was gonna speak he was like “let him finish”

    @deadbeatdel@deadbeatdelАй бұрын
    • Respect gen, harder than you think

      @ramsnation196@ramsnation196Ай бұрын
    • Easter worshippers get enough platform, let someone else "spread their belief"

      @hermanbrachey7653@hermanbrachey7653Ай бұрын
    • So do you or do you not want women to cook? 🤔

      @spa33meister@spa33meisterАй бұрын
    • Disagree. Gen is a great moderator. The edit is probably influencing the way you're seeing things. Not the moderator's fault.

      @WesHuesos@WesHuesosАй бұрын
    • @@WesHuesosappreciate that

      @GEN@GENАй бұрын
  • I found that to be a really captivating conversation among some very thoughtful, unique individuals.

    @LadyCharlamayne@LadyCharlamayne11 күн бұрын
  • Something I appreciate about these Jubilee this v that videos is that a panel of strangers who staunchly but mostly respectfully disagree on many things can also see our human commonality as well. We are all flawed no one is perfect I appreciate that in the end for the most part they can agree to disagree and continue to see each other as human beings.

    @p.santana9717@p.santana9717Ай бұрын
  • The fact that the atheist lady said people assume and ask her what church do she goes too automatically tells you how much the black church has formed our black culture

    @adrianchristian5888@adrianchristian5888Ай бұрын
    • If you need church to form your community then you are a weak one

      @youtubevideos3227@youtubevideos3227Ай бұрын
    • It’s just a stereotype she does look like somebody spiritual auntie fasho… but all she has to do is respectfully say she doesn’t do church she does give study… that way you don’t have to explain that you’re an atheist and why etc…

      @KeonRouse@KeonRouse26 күн бұрын
    • "Formed" is different from the current stereotypical climate.

      @diyalectic52@diyalectic527 күн бұрын
    • Harry Potter is a better book to argue

      @DanyPhantom-kp6dk@DanyPhantom-kp6dk6 күн бұрын
    • @@KeonRousenaw bro people shouldn’t lead off with questions about religion , sexuality , or politics

      @antwongarrett42@antwongarrett426 күн бұрын
  • Tyler contradicted himself when he disagreed with Roxy when she pointed out that Tyler is treating black people as a monolith. He responds by saying all black people should put blackness above everything else…Sir that is literally what a monolith is. You are literally saying the black community should operate as a monolith by us all choosing to put blackness above everything else.

    @TubeCritic@TubeCriticАй бұрын
    • That’s not a contradiction

      @cosmicogun1908@cosmicogun1908Ай бұрын
    • The societal expectation placed upon individuals of Black heritage, suggesting a perceived responsibility to serve as representatives or ambassadors for the entire Black community. This expectation appears rooted in the reductionist view held by some individuals, wherein one's racial identity becomes the primary lens through which they are perceived and evaluated. In essence tho what Tyler is trying to articulate was fostering unity and collective action within the Black community holds immense potential for addressing systemic issues and achieving economic empowerment. By leveraging collective resources and mobilizing community efforts, opportunities emerge to establish and support Black-owned businesses, create educational initiatives focused on entrepreneurship and financial literacy, and empower future generations through quality education that fosters not just survival, but thriving

      @gunsorbutta@gunsorbuttaАй бұрын
    • That's not what a monolith is. A monolith is saying they're all the same. Not that we should use our resources to feed, house, and educate Black people. He didn't even say a specific type of Black people. What are you talking about?

      @TheDarkAdventure@TheDarkAdventureАй бұрын
    • I think what he meant is that we need to be doing more…frfr and since you can really only focus on one thing at a time keep religion 👍🏽because everyone has their vice, their comforts nd stuff but we really do need institutions…we’ve kept our legacy’s through word of mouth,through ideas… long enough🤷🏽‍♀️

      @ariyonnadennis559@ariyonnadennis559Ай бұрын
    • Putting 'blackness over other things is black supremacy

      @acespark2894@acespark2894Ай бұрын
  • This was a powerful dialogue!!! I love it so much! Thank you!

    @AsiaticWorldTv@AsiaticWorldTv27 күн бұрын
  • This was so intense 🔥. One of the best ever

    @joaoyla9385@joaoyla938516 күн бұрын
  • Tyler is saying he’s not reducing Roxy’s blackness while actively ridiculing and belittling her. 😐😐😐

    @trinkie3440@trinkie3440Ай бұрын
    • He’s been living inside Twitter too much 😂😂😂

      @me________@me________Ай бұрын
    • Did I really?

      @BlackPeerReviewTylerBurns@BlackPeerReviewTylerBurnsАй бұрын
    • @@BlackPeerReviewTylerBurns NO, you were on point. Christians are just exercising wilful ignorance in these comments

      @TheQueenBrit@TheQueenBritАй бұрын
    • @@BlackPeerReviewTylerBurns I didn’t see this while watching. I’d be interested if the OP had some examples because I’m a bit confused.

      @purpleflows5680@purpleflows5680Ай бұрын
    • @@BlackPeerReviewTylerBurnsyes you did, the same way u felt ppl naturally assumed u were Christian’s for being black as frustrating is the same way u some her race to one political ideology. It’s clear you failed to understand ppl having a different opinion to your own.

      @shauna.a8858@shauna.a8858Ай бұрын
  • Tyler isn't atheist. He's super Pro Black. Please get REAL black atheists on the platform who won't just talk about Pro Black Issues. Let them talk of why they believe there's nobody above.

    @AshleySaysSo20@AshleySaysSo20Ай бұрын
    • Huh? Being an atheist and being "pro-black" are mutually exclusive now?

      @pedroantonio5565@pedroantonio5565Ай бұрын
    • Yes!! Like someone who can really argue they don’t believe not because they believe something else

      @F.A.W.M@F.A.W.MАй бұрын
    • What's the correlation here between being those two things? I'm confused

      @pedroantonio5565@pedroantonio5565Ай бұрын
    • exactly- he pissed me off so bad.

      @ayeechelle1@ayeechelle1Ай бұрын
    • @@pedroantonio5565pro black has more to do with social justice/ political issues not religion.

      @ayeechelle1@ayeechelle1Ай бұрын
  • The pastor was really level headed dealing with Tyler.

    @MrzPicklez@MrzPicklez29 күн бұрын
  • Loved this conversation my Beautiful people ❤️❤️🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾😊

    @fruitsarelife7073@fruitsarelife707328 күн бұрын
  • Tyler, if you see this - Sometimes the best response is to simply listen.

    @christopherdavis1012@christopherdavis1012Ай бұрын
    • Yet tyler was spitting the most historical facts. Maybe you should be listening to tyler

      @newyorka7@newyorka721 күн бұрын
    • @@newyorka7 I see you are also quick to talk, slow to listen. Historical facts are great, with proper context and the correct conversation. However Tyler derailed every conversation and question by trying to argue points that weren’t being discussed. He flatly ignored the premises of the questions in favor of espousing “facts” that no one was there for. And at every chance he got, he was dismissive of other “black” experiences that didn’t fit his narratives. Tyler was loud, possibly hurt, and flatly disrespectful.

      @christopherdavis1012@christopherdavis101221 күн бұрын
    • @@christopherdavis1012 dude it honestly just sounds like you disagree with tyler’s facts and are creating your own false narrative as to how what he was saying didn’t fit into the questions when they fit perfectly. He literally said he’s not there to invalidate anyone’s blackness so how was he dismissive of anyone’s black experience? He never cut anybody off or claimed there was a specific way to be black. The fact that you claim no one was there for the facts he presented shows your bias towards him. It really just seems like his facts go against your world view so you’re trying to paint him out as the bad guy when not only did he open up great dialect between him and the Christian’s, but mandisa and Darius were also clearly on the same accord as him. And are we watching the same video? Nowhere in this was he loud, or disrespectful. This was quite literally possibly the most respectful dialogue to occur on one of these types of videos.

      @newyorka7@newyorka721 күн бұрын
    • @@newyorka7 🤦🏾‍♂️ you came under my comment thinking you found someone to play with. Stop. Go find someone else to bother with this nonsense.

      @christopherdavis1012@christopherdavis101221 күн бұрын
    • @@christopherdavis1012 no one is playing with you. Grow up

      @newyorka7@newyorka721 күн бұрын
  • That exchange between Tyler and Roxy irritated me. Who is Tyler to tell ANY black person what they should and shouldn't prioritize when it comes to blackness? He's NOT the authority and people like him are a reason why I have a HUGE issue with these so-called "pro-blacks". You don't get to police other people's blackness based on what YOU believe "blackness" is. Like she said, she's just as black as he is, and no amount of rhetoric is going to change that.

    @Ophelia11@Ophelia11Ай бұрын
    • The societal expectation placed upon individuals of Black heritage, suggesting a perceived responsibility to serve as representatives or ambassadors for the entire Black community. This expectation appears rooted in the reductionist view held by some individuals, wherein one's racial identity becomes the primary lens through which they are perceived and evaluated. In essence tho what Tyler is trying to articulate was fostering unity and collective action within the Black community holds immense potential for addressing systemic issues and achieving economic empowerment. By leveraging collective resources and mobilizing community efforts, opportunities emerge to establish and support Black-owned businesses, create educational initiatives focused on entrepreneurship and financial literacy, and empower future generations through quality education that fosters not just survival, but thriving

      @gunsorbutta@gunsorbuttaАй бұрын
    • Well said fam well said

      @bakerm.@bakerm.Ай бұрын
    • Plus its no such thing as defending myself as black. When we start needing to prove how black we are lol.

      @ladyloveishere1838@ladyloveishere1838Ай бұрын
    • its the most annoying part of these pro-black discussions, feels like someone is always trying to check your card. Or one-up your "blackness" while also saying the concept of blackness is an evil racist creation. Just obnoxious.

      @gloriouspurpose_@gloriouspurpose_28 күн бұрын
    • literally came to the comments to see if anyone else was noticing that

      @cleoeubank5526@cleoeubank552628 күн бұрын
  • Mandisa is just simply on a WHOLE other level. Love everything she does.

    @MrzPicklez@MrzPicklez29 күн бұрын
  • Omg the way everyone hugged and all at the end despite differing opinions was BEAUTIFUL!!!!!! THAT made my day!!!!❤❤❤❤

    @kingrezz5201@kingrezz520127 күн бұрын
    • me to :)

      @geneseperkins811@geneseperkins8116 күн бұрын
    • @@geneseperkins811 truly a beautiful moment!

      @kingrezz5201@kingrezz52013 күн бұрын
  • I wanna see a debate between homeschooling parents and parents who send their children to school since homeschooling is skyrocketing in USA.

    @pieseldatches@pieseldatchesАй бұрын
    • AGREE

      @markymoo5533@markymoo5533Ай бұрын
    • Yesss, as a parent of a child who will start kindergarten this year I'd love to hear from both sides of that bc I'm on the fence on what to do.

      @SpookyFae@SpookyFaeАй бұрын
    • I would much rather hear from the kids themselves-teens who have always been homeschooled vs teens who have always been in public school. The parents would have a different view of what they think their kids are experiencing and it would be much more interesting to actually see how it is impacting the kids from them

      @fandomkid1952@fandomkid1952Ай бұрын
    • I've went to public school, private school, and have been homeschooled. I would absolutely say homeschooling is better and Im going to homeschool my own kid until they demand otherwise. Bullying, by students and staff alike, is out of hand

      @civilengineer3349@civilengineer3349Ай бұрын
    • That would be interesting. Homeschooling has pros and cons like everything else. For me it put a negative impact on my social skills and academic performance. So I don’t think it’s going to be for every single child and I hate the fact that parents now have to resort something like homeschooling, which might be a hit or miss because of the lack of safety in brick and mortar schools.

      @fugpog685@fugpog685Ай бұрын
  • *Roxie was a breath of fresh air.* *When she brought up the Ancient Ethiopian Tewahedo Christian community, I was so impressed! Everyone forgets about them and their rich history and indigenous culture!*

    @aloe704@aloe704Ай бұрын
    • Her channel is "That Black Catholic Chick." Love her!

      @healingfoundations101@healingfoundations101Ай бұрын
    • You love her because she’s a Republican and hates herself. 💀

      @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024Ай бұрын
    • Everybody was respectful. What are yall watching?

      @calebdavis381@calebdavis381Ай бұрын
    • @@calebdavis381 The Guy In the Yellow Shirt was definitely not Respectful

      @aloe704@aloe704Ай бұрын
    • ​@@aloe704He was passionate.

      @offbeatblackgerl8360@offbeatblackgerl8360Ай бұрын
  • The black Christians represented Christianity very well. I like this discussion 🙏🏾

    @michaelansah4287@michaelansah4287Ай бұрын
    • lol they were very innacurate like all christians

      @ilovepdub@ilovepdubАй бұрын
    • @@ilovepdub Why are atheist so unhappy and ready to contest/humble everyone they see that doesn't believe what they believe in

      @SorrySaitamaSolos@SorrySaitamaSolosАй бұрын
    • @@ilovepdub The most happiest athiest

      @SorrySaitamaSolos@SorrySaitamaSolosАй бұрын
    • @@ilovepdub How so? I'm not inaccurate yet I'm a Christian

      @justingary5322@justingary5322Ай бұрын
    • @@ilovepdub innacurate how?

      @harrischannel3321@harrischannel3321Ай бұрын
  • I absolutely loved this!!! Great discussion!!!

    @danewelement@danewelementАй бұрын
  • I applaud this conversation. I lean one way but I can admit it was well articulated and gives more to think about ❤

    @nini_nunez@nini_nunez27 күн бұрын
  • Sorry guys. You gotta redo this one without Tyler. He hijacked this whole damn debate.

    @humansponge@humanspongeАй бұрын
    • 💯

      @brittanies.3831@brittanies.3831Ай бұрын
    • no he ate

      @morganjanaeee@morganjanaeeeАй бұрын
    • @@morganjanaeee😂

      @kassandrabrown3941@kassandrabrown3941Ай бұрын
    • Tyler needs a special! And I am a Christian.

      @RodZilla843@RodZilla843Ай бұрын
    • Tyler is just young and fired up out of passion.

      @NomadA1@NomadA1Ай бұрын
  • What kind of moderator is this 😭😭 Tyler completely cut off the guy who was speaking and then he says “hold on let him finish” 😂

    @jaitara3781@jaitara3781Ай бұрын
    • It was to let him elaborate and then return to them

      @Random-sk6hm@Random-sk6hmАй бұрын
    • @@Random-sk6hm if u look back he didn’t return a lot of the times when Rocky wanted to speak he never went back to ask her what she wanted to say

      @jaitara3781@jaitara3781Ай бұрын
    • @@Random-sk6hm exactly!

      @GEN@GENАй бұрын
    • That's kinda what a moderator is supposed to do... Is to balance the speaking times for fairness. Let people finish their complete thoughts time permitting etc.

      @viewsandrates@viewsandratesАй бұрын
    • Bias.

      @HashbrownMarie@HashbrownMarieАй бұрын
  • wow this one was surprisingly refreshing to watch. i feel like everyone was very respectful and receptive

    @benjaelee@benjaelee2 күн бұрын
    • Everyone??

      @kamsyarinze3206@kamsyarinze3206Күн бұрын
  • “JAMES HARDEN?! 😃…LEBRON ?! 😃” Us: 🦗 🦗🦗🦗🦗

    @Trelznc@TrelzncАй бұрын
    • the corniness almost took me out!!!!

      @Melsmom@Melsmom10 күн бұрын
  • As a black atheist, i appreciate the Christian talking points and positions in this exchange. Their overall world view aligns with mine even if we dont align theologically. I most specifically appreciated Roxi and her respectful but strong pushback

    @aj6761@aj6761Ай бұрын
    • Christian here! (but im white o.0) & that’s pretty cool, it’s really nice to see an atheist not shaming Christians for being Christian because I unfortunately see so much of that online and they give people like you a bad rep. U seem like a respectable person and I, well, respect you for that. Great comment!

      @clckc@clckcАй бұрын
    • ⁠@@clckcyou’ll literally find any subset of a culture on the internet shaming the other side…that’s nothing specific to atheists. Plenty of Christians online doing the same thing to atheists. If you go out of your way and speak to an educated atheist in person I’m absolutely positive you’ll find they are respectful and aren’t trying to deconstruct your beliefs or shame your worldview.

      @24KLuxury@24KLuxuryАй бұрын
    • ​@@clckc well, as I always say: every village has its idiots.

      @SupportTheArts-yo8ox@SupportTheArts-yo8oxАй бұрын
    • By definition being "atheist" means having no "theology" so i don't understand what you mean by "even if we dont align theologically" and i thing, their overall world view that aligns with yours is actualy the non "religious" component of that world view.

      @wander-wonder@wander-wonderАй бұрын
    • Regardless of religion when it comes to armed security I got my people. I've marched and instructed people on how to build rifles, how to choose body armor, laws that pertain to conceal carry in our state. I've provided security at the Juneteenth event that was held a few years ago in our town. They christian, I'm pagan, either way I got you. Racists only see black they don't care if you're atheist or gay or anything else.

      @Chill-mm4pn@Chill-mm4pnАй бұрын
  • That moderator seems so scared of that big guy. It seems like he’s always allowing him to cut off everyone but not letting ppl interject.

    @FirstNameLastName-sc2lm@FirstNameLastName-sc2lmАй бұрын
    • Thank you, i thought i was the only one that noticed everytime 'let him talk let him talk' but he never had the same energy for anyone else

      @UncleDexter@UncleDexterАй бұрын
    • It was annoying af

      @KimchiGang1@KimchiGang1Ай бұрын
    • @@UncleDexterexactly! I kinda wish he didn’t join the group but stayed out of it all together

      @sarahlarock9885@sarahlarock9885Ай бұрын
    • @@sarahlarock9885 Do u know how hard it is to moderate these types of questions and debates? Especially with a group of 8 ppl, so yea he did a fair job

      @wop2784@wop278427 күн бұрын
  • The fact they all came together respectfully in the end was beautiful and that's what it's about. I'm glad to see them all together in spite their differences.

    @Knowthyself1013@Knowthyself101329 күн бұрын
    • The most powerful moment of the whole video

      @whatshatnin4572@whatshatnin457229 күн бұрын
  • @50:15 Mandisa's face when the wager is mentioned 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That was AWESOME! I'm so glad she responded

    @mymindistv@mymindistv23 күн бұрын
  • The "upside-down" cross is actually incredibly Catholic. Peter refused to be martyred in the same way as Christ because he felt unworthy. He asked to be placed upside-down on the crucifix.

    @alexrice1870@alexrice1870Ай бұрын
    • I guess the swastika is perfectly fine because it's a sign of peace to hindus?

      @jean-pierre5221@jean-pierre5221Ай бұрын
    • symbols can mean multiple things. if a symbol is inverted, it usually means the opposite of what it initially represents.

      @marcus....@marcus....Ай бұрын
    • True, however people today don't know that and absolutely are trying to mock Christianity...

      @whateverwhatever4026@whateverwhatever4026Ай бұрын
    • playing semantics. at the end of the day are you wearing it because of that reason? No

      @peteroroh8128@peteroroh8128Ай бұрын
    • So it got hijacked by satanic reddit

      @erenjaeger1738@erenjaeger1738Ай бұрын
  • Tyler shifted this conversation soooooooooooo far from the original topic i forgot wtf i was watching….smh

    @ForeignKollective@ForeignKollectiveАй бұрын
    • He referenced the development of Christianity in Africa during a discussion between black Christians and atheists. Did he shift the conversation or do you just not like what he said?😂

      @TK-cg4ks@TK-cg4ksАй бұрын
    • No he mostly shifted to discuss black movements ​@TK-cg4ks

      @TheMilanW@TheMilanWАй бұрын
    • @@TheMilanW And he did in connection to Christianity. I know what you’re implying and I’m not going to let you have it without spelling it out.

      @TK-cg4ks@TK-cg4ksАй бұрын
    • @TK-cg4ks well the entire topic is about Christianity so I'm not sure what you're trying to imply

      @TheMilanW@TheMilanWАй бұрын
    • Ummm, did you watch the whole interview?? He most DEFINITELY kept with the tone of the topic and THEN SOME. For Black Americans… you can not talk about Christianity, without discussing our history and culture in America. It goes hand in hand. PERIOD.

      @brianamichelle9024@brianamichelle9024Ай бұрын
  • What a refreshing conversation amongst open minded intellects!! Kudos to the moderator as well👍👍

    @lenechac@lenechacАй бұрын
  • YO Gen made it to jubuliee been following him for a while now

    @SterlingsExperinces@SterlingsExperinces26 күн бұрын
  • How many times did the "unbiased" commontator give Tyler the ground to speak before anyone else?

    @reecedye3549@reecedye3549Ай бұрын
    • The whole video is heavily edited. Tyler unfortunately dominated the debate (as many of the extreme participants on Jubilee often do)

      @Random-sk6hm@Random-sk6hmАй бұрын
    • ​@@Random-sk6hm The mod probably gave him some chance to repeatedly explained his stance because other panelists seemed unwilling to accept his opinion and keep on missing his point and being defensive for whatever reason (at least that's how I see it)

      @Lunearien@LunearienАй бұрын
    • ​@@Lunearien he was the most defensive one there 🤦‍♀️

      @syniahare8630@syniahare8630Ай бұрын
    • Because he was being logical

      @Xqvance@XqvanceАй бұрын
    • I think they would’ve said something if they minded it

      @ariyonnadennis559@ariyonnadennis559Ай бұрын
  • Roxy ! What a woman of grace and integrity! The Holy Spirit is strong in her … patience and compassion in everything she said 🙌

    @Twyisup@TwyisupАй бұрын
    • agreed! Regardless if you are religious or non-religious...

      @kacatley9258@kacatley9258Ай бұрын
    • Seriously! Because she tolerated a lot lol

      @Populardemand22@Populardemand22Ай бұрын
    • Lol she was the one who got on my nerves

      @miraclewiley7126@miraclewiley7126Ай бұрын
    • gay

      @Bomb6A9Head@Bomb6A9HeadАй бұрын
    • She was on point! She most def is anointed! I wish they had picked more people like her on the Christian side. I feel like they didn’t chose enough educated Christians for this one

      @Phantastik6@Phantastik628 күн бұрын
  • This was such a highly educated episode more than the average ep, and yet just as exhausting as the regular jubilee episodes. . .

    @Jade-3000@Jade-30003 күн бұрын
  • What's so amazing about this segment, which is a testament to us as a community, is that no matter how heated the conversations got, not once did it feel like anybody came from a place of anger and violence. It never felt like they were ever being spiteful or toxic, which is definitely a feeling in many other episodes.

    @etherwxlf@etherwxlf10 күн бұрын
  • Ethiopia is the second-oldest Christian country in the world. Armenia is the first. Africa was one of the first places Christianity flourished. And Roxy made some great points about individuality and identity.

    @zzzaaayyynnn@zzzaaayyynnnАй бұрын
    • east africa was the first place it flourished. not the entire africa.

      @inezaa@inezaaАй бұрын
    • @@inezaa you are correct.

      @zzzaaayyynnn@zzzaaayyynnnАй бұрын
    • Northeast Africa has always been a stronghold of Christianity until relatively recently. The Nubians followed the same form of Christianity as Ethiopia and were able to defeat the first Caliphate, the Rashidun Caliphate, twice in war until it broke from instability after nearly 1,000 years.

      @JohnDoe-bh2lp@JohnDoe-bh2lpАй бұрын
    • @@JohnDoe-bh2lp I've read that “religio-ethnic cleansing” is going on against Christians in that region.

      @zzzaaayyynnn@zzzaaayyynnnАй бұрын
    • Which has really nothing to do with Black American Christianity, the majority of them are not practicing Ethiopian Orthodox traditions.

      @rei1378@rei1378Ай бұрын
  • Tyler's tone talking directly to the women vs talking to the men was two completely different attitudes and it did not go unnoticed...

    @CamirynsCabaret@CamirynsCabaretАй бұрын
    • Noticed this too!

      @Hwhdueu@HwhdueuАй бұрын
    • No he was not! Put your feminist sword down sheesh!

      @swankswag@swankswagАй бұрын
    • 100%

      @marojiyam2258@marojiyam2258Ай бұрын
    • He was rather defensive from the jump. Look at his body language. And his tone.

      @hernameisracquel@hernameisracquelАй бұрын
    • Yes, I clocked that too!

      @Mr.HootieHoo@Mr.HootieHooАй бұрын
  • I'm late but this is the most locked-in I've EVER seen lmao 😂

    @etherwxlf@etherwxlf10 күн бұрын
  • I am Loving and have been waiting to find conversations like this💜 ✌🏽♾💜

    @freurslf369@freurslf369Ай бұрын
  • Ole girl with the short blonde hair was clearly the educated in the room. Didn’t argue just listened and stated facts. Dude with Afro spiritual beliefs wasn’t an atheist and was super arrogant

    @melchizedeck.@melchizedeck.Ай бұрын
    • I can tell your Christian from this comment

      @Dante_Seth@Dante_SethАй бұрын
    • agree 1000%. she had class and you could tell, other dude was a mess.

      @junojx@junojxАй бұрын
    • Sister with the dreads was very educated herself. She had to correct the short blond hair woman about the history of Christianity in the black community. Honestly, they all came off very educated.

      @ReelNinja1@ReelNinja1Ай бұрын
    • Dude was racist AF but from the other side.

      @dankfarrik8376@dankfarrik8376Ай бұрын
    • which one?

      @anyalawrence9692@anyalawrence9692Ай бұрын
  • As an Atheist, who lives in Africa we have it worst here. Is not easy being an atheist in Africa.

    @yawthesceptic5512@yawthesceptic5512Ай бұрын
    • What country? Hope you find the truth

      @iarellano27@iarellano27Ай бұрын
    • in jamaica same thing.

      @jeffrianbanton5138@jeffrianbanton5138Ай бұрын
    • @@iarellano27 jfc

      @Tacobellcheesyrollup@TacobellcheesyrollupАй бұрын
    • Atheist South African here

      @Kagiso22@Kagiso22Ай бұрын
    • @@iarellano27 Ghana

      @yawthesceptic5512@yawthesceptic5512Ай бұрын
  • Thank you for bringing up congo 🇨🇩 🙏🏽 ❤

    @alexaveronique5649@alexaveronique5649Ай бұрын
  • I haven't finished the video yet but having to change how you express yourself to please others is why I have social anxiety. Frankly I understand and I'm not gonna curse around a teacher but amen just means so be it why does that bother people.

    @no_more_xans8332@no_more_xans8332Ай бұрын
  • The atheists being offended when someone says “bless you” or “amen” to them is way to much

    @meltes4308@meltes4308Ай бұрын
    • I don't think they were offened, I think they were pointing out how ingrained in society christianity is which went with the topic of " Christianity shaping the black comminity."

      @silvernightskin@silvernightskinАй бұрын
    • @@silvernightskin 💯

      @uscitizen3252@uscitizen3252Ай бұрын
    • ​@@silvernightskinexactly

      @couldntcomeupwithanything2492@couldntcomeupwithanything2492Ай бұрын
    • It's only offensive to Christians when atheists don't agree with the same practices or lingo.

      @IWILLBRINGBEAUTY@IWILLBRINGBEAUTYАй бұрын
    • They weren't offended. They said it is proof of the assumption of their Christianity as the default.

      @boparks3204@boparks3204Ай бұрын
  • As a black atheist roxie was nailing it. The black guy who is a atheist was just very angry and wanted us to all think the same way while saying don't be same.

    @DARKTALiiS@DARKTALiiSАй бұрын
    • I agree. I am agnostic, but I really liked Roxie too

      @FreeBird2.0@FreeBird2.0Ай бұрын
    • @@FreeBird2.0 I’ve made the same observation ! Thanks for pointing that out

      @ImTiredOfThisChurch@ImTiredOfThisChurchАй бұрын
    • Roxie is the kind of Black Christian that us black atheists love to have as friends. At least, I would.

      @Zimzable@ZimzableАй бұрын
    • Black Atheist and I agree she was excellent and so well spoken. That guy started rambling and absolutely lost me towards the end.

      @Random-sk6hm@Random-sk6hmАй бұрын
    • Nah she is just a black conservative… all her opinions go back to black conservative talking points nothing about Christianity vs atheism.

      @blkanimeluvr@blkanimeluvrАй бұрын
  • As a server, I would like to see another middle ground discussion on tipping-service industry in America. What are the thoughts on how people feel about tipping. Should we tip or not. Is the system broken or not.

    @annio._21@annio._2126 күн бұрын
  • True Christianity is Not a religion but a Way of life...the 'religion' thought of it, makes it look weird.

    @theaimablejanell1560@theaimablejanell156016 күн бұрын
  • I hope during the next conversation the mediator does a better job at leaving bias at the door and letting everyone finish their sentences.

    @Jess538@Jess538Ай бұрын
    • You ain’t lying ❗️ It was so blatant and annoying.

      @bre777bre@bre777breАй бұрын
    • 1000% agree with this!! It may even be helpful to cycle out mediators every now and then because he really missed the mark in this video tbh.

      @oshinofalakoju5749@oshinofalakoju5749Ай бұрын
    • Frrrrrr

      @Horsy2345680@Horsy2345680Ай бұрын
    • 100% agreed. Not letting certain people end their conversation... sentences... like come on; its obvious where your bias leans towards

      @julesv.1492@julesv.1492Ай бұрын
    • Gentle heathens don’t care for the word fr

      @takodadisember1860@takodadisember1860Ай бұрын
  • The Christians and most of the atheists were extremely respectful. This was a great conversation

    @coquigirl0789@coquigirl0789Ай бұрын
  • I agree with Tyler on EVERYTHING EXCEPT the bless you part

    @jazp.1504@jazp.15047 күн бұрын
  • Christianity didn’t enslave our ancestors. People did. Christian doctrine doesn’t.

    @DampBiscuitt@DampBiscuittАй бұрын
  • I think active listening during these kind of panels is essential, instead of solely waiting on your time to respond. Tyler definitely hijacked this debate. The purpose of the moderator is to mitigate someone doing what Tyler did.

    @montrealmitchell6694@montrealmitchell6694Ай бұрын
    • True

      @ewatts9992@ewatts9992Ай бұрын
    • If it was a problem for any one of them during the convo I can almost promise you it would have been addressed

      @ariyonnadennis559@ariyonnadennis559Ай бұрын
    • @@ariyonnadennis559they did various times😂

      @tyronpeterson4861@tyronpeterson4861Ай бұрын
    • Yeah, I wish they’d get rid of him. Who tf asked for a guy to sit with them anyway

      @BadBigBody@BadBigBodyАй бұрын
    • @@BadBigBodysomeone who wanted to get a rise out of the debate.. whoever chose him to sit in on this conversation knew what they were doing

      @alaneofmyown@alaneofmyown25 күн бұрын
  • I’m not religious but Roxy made the most sense here. Very eloquent and open minded.

    @jbaby007@jbaby007Ай бұрын
    • Fr she made a lot of sense but lost me at the afterlife part

      @starzy154@starzy154Ай бұрын
    • She lost me a few times. She was well spoken and respectful, but I always disassociate when people speak in religious platitudes instead of reality. Or claim they have no fear of death 😂

      @Jessicad9304@Jessicad9304Ай бұрын
    • @@Jessicad9304who are you to control how she speaks and how she lives her truth?

      @Hwhdueu@HwhdueuАй бұрын
    • @@Hwhdueu wow there turbo! Who said I wanted to control how she speaks and lives? I just commented on the effect her words had on me, as the internet is a place for sharing various perspectives and reactions. Try to be less reactive and defensive if you’re going to participate online.

      @Jessicad9304@Jessicad9304Ай бұрын
    • @@Jessicad9304 you’re claiming you know her more than she does. That she’s not in reality and IS afraid of death when she said she isn’t

      @Hwhdueu@HwhdueuАй бұрын
  • Such a respectful discussion!! Not used to seeing it too often

    @laraklass5806@laraklass58066 күн бұрын
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