U2450 UNIMOG 6X6 - Is it all that it's cracked up to be?!
2022 ж. 1 Ақп.
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The first of many test drives to come! As we will be completing a heap of modifications to this truck, we wanted to get out on the track before she's all nice and shiny. Although it may not have been the best results and everything seemed to be working against us, it was still a heap of fun!
Check it out and let us know what you think! But most importantly, keep an eye out for updates on the build progress!!
Hey guys I have been collecting and restoring both US and German military trucks for years and have been a Unimog owner for a lot of those years, of course only the 4x4 versions! Thanks a whole lot for sharing this video I have always loved the 6x6 versions of all trucks but have never seen this version in action, This is a very well equipped truck with the material handling crane and the tow/lift capacities on the rear, all extremely cool and HEAVY! I am now a subscriber and look very forward to seeing your next vid, thanks again for sharing!!!!!
Dear commenters this machine is not designed to go over anything in the world it's a big service vehicle
Greetings from Gaggenau in Germany where these unbelievable verhicles are beeing built. There is nothing else on earth that can beat a Unimog!
Except any of the 4x4s waiting at the bottom of the hill😄
Это заблуждение,тот же урал4320 будет лучше😉
most versatile recovery vehicle I ever operated. Drove them for years and it was a challenge getting one bogged, drove them straight through areas where othe 4x4 mogs bogged out
Should have tried crawling that hill super slow... At that weight it really helps. As much as i'm a firm believer in momentum sometimes it isn't the best option. Love the U2450 though!!!
Great footage. Thanks
First upgrade.... road legal agriculture tyres 🤣🤣 mad as beast bro ❤️
I worked at a concrete company in Los Angeles and took the service truck to anytime we had a flat tire
That's pretty serious offroad wrecker!
I love Unimogs and the owner should not be "disappointed" with this performance. It has nothing to do with the Unimog or any other brand for that matter. Any wet or moist clay track going uphill will be hard to negotiate by any terrain vehicle.
I wonder if putting chains on the tyres will help in that scenario?
@@mikezog1030 it should have chains up in the top bins. They come as standard CES. They are pretty much unstoppable with the chains on
Bit more speed
A dirtbike wouldn’t even be aware that, that road would present troubles to other vehicles.
@@mikezog1030 they did come with mud chains and central tyre inflation deflation from the cab
For more than 20 years it was my dream to own one of these. ( ).
I remember when those were new , good bit of kit
Absolutely love a few ❤❤❤
That is one decent rig ,never seen 6x when I was in the army Needs all the recovery crap off and a camper body Get the winch out bit too slippery for that weight 👍👍
We've got a few here now that are going to be expedition vehicles. And yes, the mud and weight did not agree!
Dear Sir a fine vehicle don't listen to the commenters
Thanks, really interesting!
Awsome to se that mog in some real action, couple of unspected things just part of the game, love the attitude
This vehicle is perfect for a tire service that fixes Flats on big trucks on the highway would be a good business
That us freaking awesome 👌 brother subscribed and waiting for the next adventure 😀
Just subscribed to the channel, that 6x6 is a beasty looking vehicle.
I worked on tons of diesel trucks we would buy the fuel filters that have a petcock on the bottom to drain the liquid water
Don't be disappointed change the fuel filter and put new fuel filters and put the treatment in that kills algae
Military six-wheel drive trucks are cool ♪
Our cement mixer shop used tons of hydraulic hoses so we had Arrow equip come Supply us with Hose & Fittings and the Machine to crimp it
Would have been great to see the other 4wds in the convoy do the same track for abit of a comparison between a standard light 4wd and a heavy truck not many videos out there doing this in tough slippery conditions
yes and a standard mog aswell
Hundred percent to guys should advertise or get a contract to fix all the flats at a cement truck company
Having maintain those types of vehicles you definitely need someone that makes hydraulic hoses like aeroquip
That many fuel filter may have been put there to force a service interval
The oil can turn black but you need to keep the fuel filters clean and drained of water
that is big heavy unimog
The heavier the truck, the harder gravity works against it. Throw in a bit of moisture combined with the mass/gravity, and you are off your line in a heart beat. Been teaching heavy vehicle off-roading for 13 years, don't even bother to go out of the shed when wet.
Drove a 6x6 Studebaker back in the 70's and you are spot on. Dry it went anywhere. Add water, don't even think about it. The beast above in those conditions, with those tyres and that weight, was always going to be in trouble.
@@addictiveaussie that did amazing things at 13t fully loaded wit hall CES
Thankful.
In Australia I believe they cut through the center of the continent they should all get together and hire a giant bulldozer to smooth out the road
Dear commenters it doesn't matter if the truck slipped in the mud or made it up the hill it doesn't matter
Most of the commenters don't even know how to use a toolor have any tools but they say to disassemble the truck and take off the crane
Surely you should judge correctness of the pressure by the length of the contact patch?
Dear sir you can have a tire service for stranded trucks and change flat tires
Magnifique
The modern American off-road race has people to think they need to drive up almost vertical Cliffs made of Rock
Dear Sir if you talk to a truck company that has a lot of vehicles you can get the contract to fix the flat tires
Even with better fuel delivery, the biggest challenge for that Mog is the relatively low horsepower and torque for the huge mass. Sometimes you just cannot go slow and then more power is needed. Is it 240hp or just 214hp version?
that has 32 speed gearbox for both fwd and reverse. 8 speed with a splitter then a low range selector for another 8 with splitter
Do you plan on taking the back of it off and making a Overlander
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It’s mega cool 😎 but, once you hit 6x6 you sort or reach a point where you just can’t launch it at stuff? And at that point do you need the complexity of portal axels? Because realistically you shouldn’t be in that terrain. Which I feel bad saying because I love Mogs and pinzies :o)
Does it not have a ctis on board?? A little less air pressure in the tyres may have helped or maybe even a little extra weight 🤷♂️
@mark Phillips correct it has CTIS. Dispite it not looking like it in the video. The tyres were at 1.5bar (22psi ish). If they were 395s I’d be happy to go a little lower but 365s, sharp rocks and 13500kgs 1.5bar the tyres were bagging ALOT. Slippery shale rock steps, pretty decent incline with a fresh coat of mud doesn’t agree with that much weight unfortunately. Add in the lack of power to due the the fuel blockage it just wasn’t our day. I too thought it would walk up it as we have done way bigger hills in the 4x4 mogs.
The Tires slipped a little bit in the mud and the commenters who never worked on a truck start demanding the vehicle be disassembled
Hi would duel wheels be better on the back as one set of wheels travels on new ground on the4x4 version
Not really. Relatively wide single tires (sometimes called Super Singles) but with a heavy mud or rock tread are the go. Duals dont work well off road as stones, bricks, branches, rubbish etc get ledged between the 2 tires and do damage to both tires.
Ωραίο !!!!!
Amazing and annoying that the twins steps were the same distance apart as the wheel base! A bit short or a bit longer wheel base and it would have walked up first go
100%
Dan, would the 46" tyres with the beadlocks have worked better up these tracks rather than the stock ADF tyres?
Likely, yes. The 395/85R20 tyres would provide a larger footprint. The main thing holding this vehicle back on this track is the huge amount of weight on the back and the slippery terrain. We believe that if it was a 4x4 U1700 (i.e. less weight and different footprint) with 395's and hutchinson bead lock rims, then it would have gotten up. It just happens to be that there was a rock ledge on every one of the 6x6's axles, which certainly wasn't helping.
short answer YES!
3:40 Um bom embalo ajuda superar alguns obstáculos. A good lullaby helps overcome some obstacles.
Have you fellas fitted 445/65R22.5 tyres to any trucks? Nice vid also, but I think the mog looks better as 4X4. I prefer the Acco 6X6, the rear has better articulation for one. Have you done any work on the ACCO's?
No we haven't fitted these to any Mogs. We generally stick to the 20" rims and our preferred tyre size is the 395/85R20. We have not worked on the Acco's before. However, in regard to articulation we will be putting the 6x6 mog up on concrete articulation blocks this week to test it out.
@@unidanengineering Thanks for the reply, look forward to the upcoming 6X6 videos. I think you should have a go at an ACCO, it will sell, They are Australian made also. An OM352A would suit one well also.
very cool I did not know that Unimog's came in a 6 x 6 do they make a left-hand drive.
BIG surprise, they come ins 8x8 also!
Some of the unimog models have the option of left hand and right hand steering by sliding the steering wheel and pedals to either the left or right . I think the option were on some of the later farm type models .
@@karlk6860 I was about to say the same. Couple that with the ability to change left to right controls and back again on the fly while out driving (some later models) and you have an extremely versatile make of truck.
@@TheRaptor1967 Not this model but the one with the really big windscreen and short wheelbase designed for Municipal service.
Just out of interest what does the military service body and crane weigh?
Hallo, damit könnte ich die Karotten aus dem Garten ziehen.. 🤪 Schönes Video. Gruß Heiko aus dem Siegerland
Must be Big carrots in a big garden!
@@markfryer9880 yes, verry BIG carotts🤪💪👍🥕🥕
Of course you're going to have a hydraulic line here and their break Arrow equip makes hoses for people for $100
Привет из Казахстана! На работе вожу путейцев на Мерседес Унимог 5000… мен очень понравилась эта техника!
The subtitles know whats good, it says the engine is playing music and applause lol, 3:39
The wheels don't see to match what the engine is doing ?
This truck was not meant to climb up Mount Everest
Hey Dan, what happened to the mods for the 6x6 is it too heavy
We completed the 6x6 last Wednesday! Check out our Facebook and Instagram for the most up-to-date photos of this. We will hopefully be doing a photoshoot/video of this soon!
@@unidanengineering wow looks sick. So much work in that. Amazing
How about backing up the troublesome section at around 4:00 minute mark? Twin axles could probably have had better traction to get over the slippery rocks.
4WDing up a tight path in reverse is REALLY hard. Its almost impossible to negotiate your line because you dont have rear steer on that rig (or most rigs). The idea is good, and some off road rigs do have dual wheels up from (dual steering axels) and a single fixed at the rear. Yes, that is more effective, but its more steering, more maintenance, more things to break on the track, etc. But worth considering if you can get one. Not sure if they ever made a Unimog 6x6 in that configuration. I seem to remember seeing one in a comp truck video, but that may have been custom made.
@@TheRaptor1967 If in a tight spot where one just HAS to get through anything can be at least tried. I once was on an expedition where we rode two Russian Ural 6x6 trucks from Bishkek over Torugart pass to Kashgar, then along the Taklamakan desert to Kun Lun mountains to the foot of Ulugh Muztag mountain base camp at 5300m altitude on the Tibetan plateau. Nobody had ever been up there before us, we were 600 km from the nearest human habitation, took us 7 weeks total, Both trucks had their front axle broken along the way, rear fuel tank fell off at full speed, we were frozen in quicksand for 6 days at 4300m altitude etc etc. But we made it there and back and the 6928 meter mountain was climbed for the first time. When fooling around for a day you can turn back, but there are situations where that is not an option, and that is what these trucks are actually built for.
Wasn’t the 6x6 unique to the ADF?
No there are 6x6 mogs in all applications around the world.
If you couldn't get up Mount Everest the commenters would tell you to change the tires and get a better engine
One ore two gears higher and much more speed across rough passages...!
Do that same run again, with a motorhome body, in the dry, and it will eat that climb.
Put it in a higher gear to get up those spots you couldn’t make while crawling
If friction is low enough, you can't go....anywhere. 4x4, 6x6, 10x10, all can be stopped.
100%!
Diesel fuel tanks if they have water in them somehow algae starts growing in their put algae killer
Looks great, might as well park it for display. I'll show you what my Bronco can.
Yeah? Is your Bronco 1 horsepower with 4 hoof drive?
You need more momentum to get up those spots ....
I think Unimog 4x4s are the best off road vehicle but not this vehicle because it's a heavy 6x6 model. The lighter 6x6 Penguazer would have made it up . I'm not sure if I spelled Penguazer correctly.
Pinzgauer :-) kzhead.info/sun/lqeReZRqh6yPaI0/bejne.html
There are lots of vehicle that can get up there but it isn’t fair to compare a 6X6 Pinz to a 6X6 Mog as they are totally different weight classes. The Pinz has a maximum weight of 3,900kg with 1,500kg max payload. That Mog has more weight than that on each axle. A 6X6 chassis cab weighs over 7,000kg and total payload of 10,000kg. Different animals.
It will be a different animal once its stripped of all its excess baggage and turned into an overland expedition vehicle. The 6x6 and 8x8 vehicles make the ultimate expedition vehicles because of the size of the living pod that can be placed on the back. Only down side is small tight windy tracks that car size 4WD's often cut between trees and rocks.
um ya supposed to air down when going up big hills like that or 4 wheeling in general... way more traction a much smoother ride.
This was at about 1 bar (approx 15 psi), but thanks for the feedback 👍🏼
But, what is this unimog for? I sitll don't get it.
It’s designed as a recovery vehicle in the ADF
@@unidanengineering OHHH! Thanks for the data!
i know that you will be disappointed but i a afraid you have asked the wrong person, various channels ask questions ask questions for no reason and i try to answer all but some i know nothing about, the last mog i had was as a child but it was 4 x4 but could run well, it used to climb a tall fence and get in the bedroom window.
Put the rite tyres on for a start an get rid of those crap Michellens.❤❤❤❤
Crunch box offroad? Made it look to easy.
They are a full synchro box. 8 forward and usually 8 reverse. Plus often a low range splitter, then sometimes a extremely low range set giving a LOT of gears to choose from in forward and reverse.
@@TheRaptor1967 No, it starts with the forward/neutral/reverse gear between the seats and then you have the 8 speed gear selector with the split between 4th and 5th.
Der russische URAL würde ohne anzuhalten vorbeifahren, Sie haben wahrscheinlich wirklich kein Offroad gesehen!
Okay, I'll say the same thing differently, the contact patch of the tyres was too short (front to back), and the tyres were not bagged out enough to enable them the best chance to grip things. Is it possible that the side walls are so stiff that the actual contact patches are carrying a lot more than 14 PSI? One reason to get a mog would be superior puncture resistance. . I suppose that if you have bead locks, you can air down even further, to 1 PSI. My last comment is that if the tyre is the wrong shape, you have too much pressure in it, or the sidewalls are too stiff, and that that is true even no matter what your tyre gauge tells you. Stating the same thing differently, to disprove my comment, you actually need to quote me how long the contact patch is. The length of the contact patch is the only way to tell if you are aired down far enough, because lengthening the contact patch is they whole idea of airing down. Stated differently again, as Forrest Gump would say, "Over inflated is as overinflated does". This whole thing is actually a really good argument for you to encourage people to fit the narrowest tyres that they can find (unless the side walls are still too stiff or beadlocks make this factor irrelevent).
those tyres are not bad for a good road tyre their is a solid run flat bead inside pressed onto the rim also
A 6x6 doesn’t mean it’s better than a 4x4, only means more payload, besides you’re in the wrong gear, to short on wet clay will just dig in…. In the military we used 8x8 APCs, big, cumbersome but with payload ability…
Всё верно 👍
A lot of people are in a false reality there's very few people that can afford these machines unless you're a company or government
Only a bulldozer can get up shit like that
Boat anchor
Why not let some air out of your tyres!
They were down to 1.5bar. I know it doesn’t look like it but they were bagging out massively on the rocks.
3:34 Tyres are overinflated.
Tyres were at approx. 1 bar i.e. 14PSI with a 14tonne tare weight. I have to disagree that they were overinflated.
@@unidanengineering Okay, I'll say the same thing differently, the contact patch of the tyres was too short (front to back), and the tyres were not bagged out enough to enable them the best chance to grip things. Is it possible that the side walls are so stiff that the actual contact patches are carrying a lot more than 14 PSI? One reason to get a mog would be superior puncture resistance. . I suppose that if you have bead locks, you can air down even further, to 1 PSI. My last comment is that if the tyre is the wrong shape, you have too much pressure in it, or the sidewalls are too stiff, and that that is true even no matter what your tyre gauge tells you. Stating the same thing differently, to disprove my comment, you actually need to quote me how long the contact patch is. The length of the contact patch is the *only* way to tell if you are aired down far enough, because lengthening the contact patch is they whole idea of airing down. Stated differently again, as Forrest Gump would say, "Over inflated is as overinflated does". This whole thing is actually a really good argument for you to encourage people to fit the *narrowest* tyres that they can find (unless the side walls are still too stiff or beadlocks make this factor irrelevent).
The 6x6 had a extra axel designed by the Australian army not by mercerdes because the army knows more about trucks than them only trouble if they have gearbox problems mercerdes can walk away and say your problem we don't make them with extra axel
Not so sure your sources are correct. ADF are one of many applications for the 6x6 unimog. 6x6 Unimogs have been around long before the ADF purchased the u2450s.
Put chevrons on it and it will be even better.
3.39 minutes, should have deflated tyres, that is nothing for that beast. 5 stage diff lock, 32 fwd gears, the crap I put those through over the years is amazing.
Heavy vehicle and clay could have deflated it to the rim would have been same result, more aggressive tyres and twice the power and it might have got up, really need to take the 6t of wrecker gear off.
@@weebeast2726 I have only driven it with Wrecker gear on it, I took it through some crazy terrain over the 15 years. Guessing you mean more power at higher speed, but when I was down in the tortoise low gear set in the low on the selector it has heaps of grunt not to mention the 5 stage diff lock. I took it over lots of crap where other trucks had no chance. near on 45 deg inclines, drop off into creeks and up the other side. many times I de-booged vehicles only to then drive through with the wrecker ( Medium Recovery Vehicle -MRV) Best wrecker for years, 2 x independent winches, and it was light with only 4t / axle.
@@davidperrott4502 mrv's are very capable just not on steep slippery hills, chains or v treads would help but ultimately if the wheels aren't spinning fast enough for the mud to flick out they turn to slicks, that mrv was down on power, maybe fuel related or tired probably why he was in such a low gear, and why he wasn't having much luck.
Just buy a patrol
i don't get it , you boys act as if you bought a steinway grandpiano and because it was'nt cheap it should be easy to play on it....? get the winch out and pick a tree this 12 ton marvel is not doing 100hp a ton tricks
That’s not at all what’s happened here… did you watch the video and see that we did try to winch and the hydraulic hose snapped? Did you see the tyre pop? Just showing our day our driving. Most “KZheadrs” would title a day like this as “worst day on the track ever” or “almost stranded at 4x4 track” 😂 we are just showing what happened in this instance, fuel issues and too much weight for the vehicle but still overall had fun
Great vehicle, but must have a capable driver not a numpty like the one on the video ...
Why going offroad on such shitty road oriented tyres.
I think they were the standard tyre that the ADF used (they bought it from the ADF).
Weak engine
bloody good engine, 110km/h purring along in top gear, hit the circuit breaker to isolate the speed limiter (cannot do it at night lol) and it cruises at a great pace.
Very underwhelmed 👎🏼
@8:30 what a piece of garbage. my mustang would go up that. with the top down ffs
Cat spin on filters
And I travel, solo, I have to help, only me.
HOW MUCH ? 💲