How This Pen Changed The World

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Have you ever wondered how a simple pen could revolutionize the world of writing? In this video, we delve into the incredible story behind the BIC Cristal, possibly the most successful product ever made. From its innovative design to the clever use of physics, discover how this iconic pen became a global phenomenon, selling over 100 billion units worldwide and significantly impacting literacy rates.
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00:00 The Pen That Changed the World
01:07 The History of the Pen
02:42 Capillary Action in Ballpoint Pens
05:05 Developing the BIC Cristal
06:17 BIC Cristal Pen Design
07:47 How BIC Cristal Changed the World
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Written and edited by Ewan Cunningham ( / ewan_cee )
3D Modeler: Orkun Zengin
Music used in this video:
Melting Glass - Eden Avery
To Loom Is To Love - The Mini Vandals
San Pedro - Sugoi
Updstate - Track Tribe
Sunset Trails - DJ Williams
Key To Your Heart - The Mini Vandals
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  • Is this your go-to pen or not? - Shoutout to AnyDesk for making this vid possible, get it for free here: www.anydesk.com/primalspace

    @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
    • I use anydesk

      @BOSS_20125@BOSS_2012510 күн бұрын
    • Ballpoint pens are amazing

      @BOSS_20125@BOSS_2012510 күн бұрын
    • I prefer writing with a fountain pen when I have to write for some time. But for signatures or quick notes I use Gel and Ball both.

      @briandsouza7854@briandsouza785410 күн бұрын
    • I mostly use pencils

      @JerryCan101@JerryCan1019 күн бұрын
    • Just saying, because you use Blender (I do too), here are some tips for you: try getting the Flip Fluids addon for blender for more impressive fluid simulations and RBD Lab addon for blender for every other simulation, for more realistic renders have depth of field turned on. Btw GREAT vids keep it up. Channel Name Here out!🖖

      @Jfwerb@Jfwerb9 күн бұрын
  • Best part of the pen design is that the hexagonal shape fits a compact cassette, so allowing you to wind up a tape that is loose, without damaging the player, plus you could rewind a tape without wasting precious battery power.

    @SeanBZA@SeanBZA10 күн бұрын
    • Nostalgia!

      @andy4an@andy4an10 күн бұрын
    • Your comment brought up so many memories

      @Pax.YouTube@Pax.YouTube10 күн бұрын
    • @@andy4an Wow. The genius is endless.

      @N0Xa880iUL@N0Xa880iUL10 күн бұрын
    • duel functionality

      @JerryCan101@JerryCan10110 күн бұрын
    • Haha yes! This really was the best bonus feature. So nostalgic!

      @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
  • You should have mentioned how the pen's design continued to improve over time, such as how the cap was given a hole to prevent choking if it was lodged in an airway

    @ptrix@ptrix9 күн бұрын
    • ahh yes such a thoughful safety feature

      @BOSS_20125@BOSS_201259 күн бұрын
    • just take it away from children.. bruh edit: ayyo bro sorry for starting ww56. i didnt know your threeyear olds use pens instead of pencils💀🤨

      @BOSS_20125@BOSS_201259 күн бұрын
    • Maybe you should do your own phukn video? 😂

      @bernielindell@bernielindell9 күн бұрын
    • @@BOSS_20125aren't the children supposed to use the pen?

      @Alvionalx@Alvionalx9 күн бұрын
    • @@Alvionalx i mean, kinda, sorta maybe

      @BOSS_20125@BOSS_201259 күн бұрын
  • I’m old enough to remember one change that was made to the BIC Pen. When I was a kid, the LID used to be closed off. Now, there’s a hole at the top. I didn’t know why until I got older and found out the reason was because if a child accidentally swallows the lid and it lodges in the throat, there’s a hole to allow for airflow until the lid can be removed. I remember hearing stories of young children who had died because they swallowed the lid.

    @EpicBenjo@EpicBenjo6 күн бұрын
    • Ehh, they should have let Darwin's theory of natural selection take its course. :D jk

      @BillAnt@BillAnt5 күн бұрын
    • I remember chewing the pointed lid when I was in grade school.

      @gamej7946@gamej79465 күн бұрын
    • Hectic. Imagine having swallowed one accidentally, only for the hole in the lid to actually allow air into your lungs until such time as it could be removed.

      @tonystales4724@tonystales47245 күн бұрын
    • @@BillAnt You definitely don't have children.

      @THE-X-Force@THE-X-Force4 күн бұрын
    • @@THE-X-Force - I actually do, but your mind reading is way off, and lacking a sense of humor. smh

      @BillAnt@BillAnt4 күн бұрын
  • We used to remove the guts and used the pen body as a peashooter in school. The art department had this huge bucket of small, clear plastic rods, used to melt into projects, that fit the pen perfectly and FLEW across a room. What a time we had!

    @johnpombrio@johnpombrio6 күн бұрын
    • Intended use, I'd argue.

      @foodbag312@foodbag3122 күн бұрын
  • over 60 years and the mascot, design, and branding of bic is the same. hats off to marcel. I have like 50 just flying around my house RN. Edit: Indeed, my pens fly. Also, wheres voldemort

    @BOSS_20125@BOSS_2012510 күн бұрын
    • Hats off indeed!

      @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
    • YOU HAVE FLYING PENS!?!?!?

      @csweezey18@csweezey188 күн бұрын
    • @@csweezey18 idk if this is a joke or not but i think he means there's dust from 50 year old items floating around his house

      @maozedong7821@maozedong78218 күн бұрын
    • @@maozedong7821 I can assure you that's _not_ what the OP meant. They meant they have ~50 such BiC pens. Simple as that. Your interpretation on the other hand seems unreasonably far-fetched somehow, like where did you get the dust bit from… Also, the comment you replied to was, indeed, a joke.

      @user-gh4ur4jq1e@user-gh4ur4jq1e8 күн бұрын
    • Flying? You mean lying?

      @cx3622@cx36228 күн бұрын
  • Fun fact: In Argentina, ballpoint pens are still referred as how Biro initially marketed them: Birome

    @muozcraft@muozcraft8 күн бұрын
    • Yes, it's true.

      @FacuA0@FacuA08 күн бұрын
    • yet it's not even the same product as the biro pen was unusable on paper

      @ommsterlitz1805@ommsterlitz18057 күн бұрын
    • @@ommsterlitz1805 Arguably, they still are.

      @TheReaverOfDarkness@TheReaverOfDarkness7 күн бұрын
    • @@TheReaverOfDarkness Bich improved the design by ten fold and his genius to use a novelty material like plastic and not being greedy like Biro but instead Bich selling it for a reasonable price.

      @ommsterlitz1805@ommsterlitz18057 күн бұрын
    • @@ommsterlitz1805 Sounds like they got you fooled like the Mike vs. Ike campaign. That's not how it went down.

      @TheReaverOfDarkness@TheReaverOfDarkness7 күн бұрын
  • It’s so ubiquitous as to almost be invisible - yet it’s as iconic an example of 20th century industrial design as the VW Beetle or the Coke bottle.

    @infadeldog13@infadeldog134 күн бұрын
  • In France, when I was young, we started to learn writing with fountain pain. It was very interesting to improve your griping, patience, cleanliness and carefulness. But at the time I did not have understood that, and I couldn't wait to be allowed to use a ball pen. The massives advantages was so obvious !

    @camilleblavot579@camilleblavot5796 күн бұрын
    • Yes - I remember being taught with those (especially, weird ones for left-handers). They were indeed a pain!

      @G6JPG@G6JPG2 күн бұрын
  • It's disappointing you didn't mention the competition with the pencil in this period of pen innovation. Until this pen, the pencil was the dominant writing tool for over a century, and helped literacy rates skyrocket.

    @LeoStaley@LeoStaley9 күн бұрын
    • The pencil was a lot simpler and less expensive, it also had the ability to correct mistakes with the use of an eraser, often conveniently affixed to the pencil. I will guess the pencil was much more widely used than the Bic pen, and it is still in use to this day. One advantage of the pen, was that the ink could not be easily erased and redone, for example, unlike with a pencil, if you wrote down your signature on a contract, it was very hard to change later which was one of the desirable properties of indelible ink.

      @geekinasuit8333@geekinasuit83339 күн бұрын
    • Indeed the pencil has been with us for centuries.

      @theronwolf3296@theronwolf32969 күн бұрын
    • @@theronwolf3296 Could literacy have been a product of global economic development and education? Could people have learned to read and write with a pencil? No no, obviously it's a freaking disposable plastic pen that made everyone literate! /s

      @e1000sn@e1000sn9 күн бұрын
    • "The Pencil: A History of Design and Circumstance" by Henry Petroski This is a fun read.

      @douglasstrother6584@douglasstrother65848 күн бұрын
    • @@e1000sn Yeah, I picked up on that misconception as well, obviously the Bic pen had nothing at all to do with why literacy rates were increasing. It would be a great advertisement for Bic though.

      @geekinasuit8333@geekinasuit83338 күн бұрын
  • We all know why it sold so well: The tip's texture is extremely pleasurable to chew.

    @Highlaw@Highlaw8 күн бұрын
    • I think I chewed up more bics than that I wrote with till empty.

      @MagereHein@MagereHein7 күн бұрын
    • In elementary school I would ravenously chew on the cap till it was totally unusable then chew on the pen till the pen body shattered. Idk what was wrong w me 😂😂😂

      @mechadonia@mechadonia6 күн бұрын
    • @@mechadonia I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I'm sure pupils chew pens for the same reason some people smoke cigarettes: boredom. Bics are just good for chewing. I tried chewing Parker Jotter pens, but the metal makes the experience unsatisfactory. Chewing the cap only really worked with the narrow end. Chewing the pen itself starts at the little cap at the opposite end of the ball, until it gets loose and lost, and from that moment things go fast, as the hexagonal plastic soon shatters.

      @MagereHein@MagereHein6 күн бұрын
    • @@mechadonia Switching to metal pens helps. Unless you have teeth like a shark...🤣

      @MrEpsilonZero@MrEpsilonZero5 күн бұрын
    • To all those who chew pens, you are truly the evil in this world.

      @TyroneBlack@TyroneBlack5 күн бұрын
  • Because the original cap wasn't flattened at the top, you could pull the cap off the pen tip by about 1 inch (25mm), then squeeze the tip between three fingers, which propelled the cap back onto the pen tip, which made it look like the cap was magnetic. I amazed many fellow kids with this trick in the 1960's.

    @Sgreubel@Sgreubel5 күн бұрын
  • Bruh i never know there was THIS MUCH engineering behind a mere thing called 'Pen' it's utterly amazing fr.

    @Vipexy@Vipexy6 күн бұрын
  • Actually that was my father's FIRST pen! I have so many in my house and the design is still the same! An engineering marvel....

    @RocketrywithAnay_2013@RocketrywithAnay_201310 күн бұрын
    • Indeed! Seems so simple now, but there's so much more to it. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment - good luck in the giveaway!

      @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
    • @@primalspace indeed! And thanks!

      @RocketrywithAnay_2013@RocketrywithAnay_20139 күн бұрын
  • Bro was really holding himself back with that pronunciation of Marcel Bich 🗿

    @DiceSpiceMemes@DiceSpiceMemes8 күн бұрын
    • Haha I caught that too. Very very good scriptwriting to slip that in there.

      @katarh@katarh23 сағат бұрын
  • Another thing Primal Space never mentioned is how fountain pens also used capillary action to control their own ink's flow, the ballpoint is just a compressed mechanism for doing the same thing as the nib of a fountain pen in a smaller space, with less material. This is why oil based ink needed to be developed for ballpoint pens at all.

    @Ensensu2@Ensensu27 күн бұрын
  • You also missed the hole in the lid of the pen which is there in case it gets lodged in someone's throat. They would still be able to breathe (ablbeit with difficulty) until the pen lid was extracted.

    @XxKINGatLIFExX@XxKINGatLIFExX5 күн бұрын
    • That's an improvement made in 1991, before that, the lid was closed (I was born in 1985 and learn to write at around 4yrs old, so I remember well) Of course, it takes so long to end a bic pen which is used just to take short notes, that the 80's variant was still around even during the 2000's.

      @Jean-Denis_R_R_Loret@Jean-Denis_R_R_Loret4 күн бұрын
    • ​@@Jean-Denis_R_R_Loret Yeah, I remember the closed off ones from my father's office in like 2008.

      @samplesample7178@samplesample71783 күн бұрын
  • The Ultimate Pen that doubled as a perfect cassette rewinder, a blowgun, and mini table-hockey stick that could also write words. Marvelous.

    @Pax.YouTube@Pax.YouTube9 күн бұрын
    • They also make for good on-the-fly drum sticks.

      @raedwulf61@raedwulf618 күн бұрын
    • @@raedwulf61 that too!

      @Pax.YouTube@Pax.YouTube7 күн бұрын
    • They didn't write very well, they were too big to fit cassettes, so really they were just useful as blowguns, table-hockey sticks, and drumsticks. Still versatile, I suppose.

      @TheReaverOfDarkness@TheReaverOfDarkness7 күн бұрын
    • Not to mention chew toy.

      @EngineeringScience015@EngineeringScience0156 күн бұрын
    • In my grade school we had folder binders that used elastic bands to secure themselves shut. Kids would hook the cap on the elastic and pull back on the pen until the cap shot off towards the intended target. Got sent to the principals office a few times for pelting my classmates w those bic pen caps lol.

      @mechadonia@mechadonia6 күн бұрын
  • as an african this pen is still part of my day to day as a student. THANK YOU BIRO AND BICH!

    @PleitgenGikonyo@PleitgenGikonyo9 күн бұрын
    • As a brit, I too used these pens more than any other at school/college/uni too. No pencil case is complete without one

      @Logarithm906@Logarithm9068 күн бұрын
    • I still use them often as well. They really are a staple of day-to-day life for so many!

      @primalspace@primalspace8 күн бұрын
    • And you have to be African to use this pen during study??? Jeez...I'm human and I'm using it daily on the job... African, European, American, who tf cares about that...

      @BoyKhongklai@BoyKhongklai8 күн бұрын
    • @@BoyKhongklai The mere mention of somebody being from africa makes you angry, how pathetic

      @jeremyfisher8512@jeremyfisher85128 күн бұрын
    • ​​@@BoyKhongklai Geez, nothin wrong with saying where you're from.

      @unliving_ball_of_gas@unliving_ball_of_gas8 күн бұрын
  • Repeat after me: Correlation does not imply causation.

    @arnechino@arnechino6 күн бұрын
    • I think he knew the big shortcut he was taking between bic invention and world literacy. But it makes the video more impactful and marketable.

      @arcaelum2022@arcaelum20222 күн бұрын
    • ​@@arcaelum2022it also makes it blatantly clickbait and false🤦

      @JohnDoe-ph6if@JohnDoe-ph6if16 сағат бұрын
  • Man, talk about things we take for granted! I never ever looked at this pen as an amazing invention. Boy, did this video changed my outlook on these!

    @3ffrige@3ffrige6 күн бұрын
  • "Simplicity is the final achievement" Hats off for the engineer that made this pen!

    @PeakOfHumor@PeakOfHumor8 күн бұрын
    • Simplicity was also part of making it each cheaply as possible, which is the case on most successful mass produced products.

      @BillAnt@BillAnt5 күн бұрын
  • I'm gonna be honest there, this pen probably caused me to view every day objects in a different light when I discovered it at age 4. My classmates all had fancy fountain pens while I wrote with a Bic pen (because I kept breaking the nibs of the fountain pens) It was so simple and cheap but still did its job really well, teaching me that being fancy and expensive doesn't always mean it's better at achieving something.

    @FinlayDaG33k@FinlayDaG33k8 күн бұрын
    • I know right. I am french and we were forced to use fountain pens in my first years of school (it was in early 2000 so not that far away) when it was so bad in comparison to a bic. I am glad they dropped this requirement after primary school

      @uwu_senpai@uwu_senpai8 күн бұрын
    • @@uwu_senpai Aye, I'm from The Netherlands and we also were forced to use fountain pens in the 4th and 5th grade. After the 6th grade that requirement luckily wasn't strict anymore and by the 8th (final year of primary) it was completely "whatever". Then again, we were also forced to write cursive... But now 10 years or so later, and I rarely write cursive so it feels like I wasted a lot of effort on learning something I wouldn't actually use.

      @FinlayDaG33k@FinlayDaG33k7 күн бұрын
    • @@FinlayDaG33k cursive is such a pain. "Oh you need it for your signature!" no. no you don't. 95% of the adults who sign crap around me just use squiggles. And you can literally sign with basically *any* symbol you want in the USA. A smiley face? Sure. A penis? might be a tad much and would be heavily frowned upon by a judge or whatever, but technically you could make that your signature.

      @5peciesunkn0wn@5peciesunkn0wn7 күн бұрын
    • @@uwu_senpai I too hated to use fountain pens at first when I was forced to in the first half of elementary school but funnily enough now that I’m in university and write pages upon pages of notes a day I rediscovered them, there are some great cheap options out there they’re are sooooo smooth and comfortable to write with compared to how much pressure is needed for a BIC for example. Additionally they are more environmentally friendly because of the water based inks and ink cartridges/possibility to use bottled ink

      @SienjorQueso@SienjorQueso7 күн бұрын
    • ⁠@@FinlayDaG33kIm also from NL and hated writing with them, nowadays 12 years later I can’t imagine my life without them and my hand hurts when writing with ballpoints. Cursive on the other hand is horrible and even when written perfectly is barely readable…at least for me (Im slightly dyslexic). I have created my own fusion between block letters and cursive for more readability but also some hints of cursive for speed advantages (less lifting of the pen).

      @SienjorQueso@SienjorQueso7 күн бұрын
  • This got me wondering: maybe this is the reason why cursive used to be so important but not any more. If you have a fountain pen that is constantly spilling ink, then it's easier not to lift the pen at all. But BIC pens mean you can write your letters separately without the same worry.

    @sneakyknight@sneakyknight2 күн бұрын
    • Very observant! 🤔

      @Madamchief@Madamchief2 күн бұрын
    • The reason cursive died is because of ballpoint pens. You can't write properly with one.

      @SanCreatividad-pd1pf@SanCreatividad-pd1pf2 күн бұрын
  • My favorite part was when Primal spoke about the polystyrene design that Marcel took on, Marcel showed great innovation by taking a not yet popularly use material, testing it, and trusting it which ultimately led to others use the material also and being involved in the growth of the material and it’s popularity as a prime variant of plasticity. ✍️

    @176SelfridgeCompositeSquadron@176SelfridgeCompositeSquadronКүн бұрын
  • I remember making spitwad guns out of these in elementary school. If we got caught, we had to write with a crayon for the rest of the day.

    @morskojvolk@morskojvolk10 күн бұрын
    • 😂😂😂 you just unlocked some great memories!

      @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
    • We used to do the same in our school days

      @User-jr7vf@User-jr7vf9 күн бұрын
    • I never bothered making spitwad guns. If only I had your teacher to incentivize me!

      @TheReaverOfDarkness@TheReaverOfDarkness7 күн бұрын
    • Ahh a young risk taker 🫡

      @lyteyearz5810@lyteyearz58106 күн бұрын
    • That's a brilliant response from the teacher.

      @gogokowai@gogokowai6 күн бұрын
  • I'm such a sucker for designs like these. No moving parts, nothing unnecessary, frankly genius. 10/10 video, please let me win the giveaway :)

    @ZachTheHuman@ZachTheHuman9 күн бұрын
    • Right? So many seemingly simple things in life with great stories like these. Good luck in the giveaway!

      @primalspace@primalspace9 күн бұрын
    • No moving parts? The tungsten carbide ball rolls so that you can write. Bic also created a upper market version of this called the Cristal Renew. It has a metal body and comes with some refills.

      @tezcanaslan2877@tezcanaslan28778 күн бұрын
    • If you are writing quickly the ball is moving at hundreds of rpm.

      @nat9909@nat99096 күн бұрын
    • @@tezcanaslan2877 Yeah, I was going to say, one moving part. Just the one, though! And the ink if you're a pedant, but no one likes a pedant. Including pedants.

      @thohangst@thohangst6 күн бұрын
  • The Bic pen? Now that's a game-changer. Here in Laayoune (southern Morocco), it's not just a pen, it's a bridge. A bridge between ideas, cultures, across the world. Thanks, Primal Space for the video.

    @abdellahchaaibi@abdellahchaaibi7 күн бұрын
  • This is one of the best videos I've seen in youtube for quite a while. I'd have watched it just to enjoy the pristine 3D modeling which accompanied by such a fascinating story makes it a real treat. Hats off to you, sir!

    @tohtorizorro@tohtorizorro7 күн бұрын
  • So….how much did pencils cost? Why wouldn’t literacy rates increase b/c of pencils instead of pens?

    @ericclaptonsrobotpilot7276@ericclaptonsrobotpilot72769 күн бұрын
    • The proliferation of cheap pens and skyrocketing literacy rates in the 20th century is almost certainly a case of correlation without causation. The same social and economic pressures that drove both phenomena.

      @fabiolean@fabiolean8 күн бұрын
    • It's actually a pretty bad analysis of mere correlation, given the raw data alone, because the rise in literacy closely follows _before_ the rise of pens. It would make more sense, statistically speaking, to say that the rise in literacy caused people to use ballpoint pens.

      @TheReaverOfDarkness@TheReaverOfDarkness7 күн бұрын
    • Lack of pencil sharpeners spurred development

      @Myron90@Myron906 күн бұрын
    • Modern pencils were invented in 1795. Bic pens likely didn't have a huge effect on literacy, but they definitely facilitated the weird rules around not being allowed to use pencils in specific cases because they "can't be erased".

      @gogokowai@gogokowai6 күн бұрын
    • Because it’s clickbait they changed the pen market but I doubt they affected literacy rates

      @weird-guy@weird-guy5 күн бұрын
  • I've been using this pen my whole life without realizing just how genius it is. Its materials made me think it was extremely cheap and normal. But if you take a moment to appreciate its beauty, you realize how perfect this pen really is. The shape, ink, weight, everything is just perfect. I carry one on me everyday.

    @mtube8564@mtube85648 күн бұрын
  • Another design feature is the hole in the lid which meant a child was less likely to suffocate if the lid got lodged in their throat.

    @oliverpolden@oliverpolden6 күн бұрын
  • Need to mention the precision of the ball and tip. The balls are made from tungsten carbide, a very hard material, much harder than steel. The material arrives at Bic facilities in the form of a thin rod, and is then cur into little cylinders. The little cylinders are then put onto grinding/polishing tumbler machines, about 70,000 at a time, along with grinding materials. The material is then tumbled, and every few hours, the cylinders are removed, rinsed off, and returned to the tumblers, but with a finer grade of grinding/polishing material. Multiple steps are required, and after a certain number of hours, a sample is removed and checked for size, smoothness, etc. The entire process takes from 60-72 hours. The tricky part is the precision required: The balls must be very, very round, and very smooth, but not too smooth. If they are too smooth, then cannot pickup the correct amount of ink, and will produce gaps in writing, or if too rough, they produce uneven line widths and smears, because they pickup too much ink. Microscopes are used to determine the smoothness and size of the balls.

    @cpovey1@cpovey15 күн бұрын
    • That's so interesting! Thank you for sharing. It's funny, my doctor said the same thing: he needed a microscope to determine the smoothness and texture of my balls...

      @TSIRKLAND@TSIRKLAND5 күн бұрын
  • Somehow managed to still be taught writing using a fountain pen, this didn't help improve literacy rates but you damn well made sure to not lose your pen!

    @Corpomancer@Corpomancer8 күн бұрын
    • But you may have thrown away in anger a good few that leaked ink all over your shirt pocket.

      @richardofoz2167@richardofoz21675 күн бұрын
    • @@richardofoz2167 what r u talking about fountain pens are BETTER than ballpoints

      @NoManDetected@NoManDetected5 күн бұрын
    • fountain pens are expensive and touchy. that's part of the argument for bic being revolutionary

      @dercooney@dercooney4 күн бұрын
    • @@dercooney were...modern ones don't do that. They also write smoother

      @silverscalederg8632@silverscalederg86324 күн бұрын
    • @@silverscalederg8632 doesn't really matter, unless you're saying that they were around in the 50s

      @dercooney@dercooney3 күн бұрын
  • I used to make "lava lamps" out of these. The oil based soap in the school bathroom made a great solvent for the ink. It would melt into the soap, and the clear casing made a great display. Knew what a "BiC Cristal Ballpoint Pen" was since 3rd grade.

    @amessman@amessman9 күн бұрын
    • I regret not knowing this back then

      @HipposHateWater@HipposHateWater7 күн бұрын
  • honestly, i have used it. but never appreciated it because of mainly the fact that there were many other pens that were better. but after seeing this video, i truly appreciate it now :)

    @LEGEND_89_YT@LEGEND_89_YT6 күн бұрын
  • There was a time when I seriously wondered which pen to use in everyday life that was useful, comfortable and represented a part of my personality. In the end, I've always chosen the Bic Cristal, because the contrast between its simplicity and its level of engineering is so great that, in my opinion, it surpasses any luxury pen and represents truly the best that humanity has to offer.

    @AnonymementVotre@AnonymementVotre6 күн бұрын
  • Exactly as you said, the fact that over all the decades the design of the pen barely changed just shows the genius of its creator. Simply an engineering perfection. From now on i will think about it everytime i see one of these (so pretty frequently).

    @gamo2748@gamo27489 күн бұрын
    • Genius indeed. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Good luck in the giveaway.

      @primalspace@primalspace8 күн бұрын
    • The actual reason that the design hasn't changed is because the greedy business magnates who invent this crap have absolutely no idea what will sell. Whatever stuff sells best they worship like its some sort of dark magic, meanwhile they tweak everything else endlessly like it's cursed if it can't reach top sales. BiC Crystal was inferior to every other ballpoint pen design I ever used, and I have used many. So why was it never improved?

      @TheReaverOfDarkness@TheReaverOfDarkness7 күн бұрын
    • the plagesof modern society is that they always want to change things and make them new but sometimes you shouldnt have to make them different

      @edarddragon@edarddragon6 күн бұрын
  • One of the first to see the videos.... Ballpoint pens; the unsung heroes of writing tools! They're not just reliable and durable but also versatile, making them perfect for any writing task. With their professional look and efficient ink usage, they're a must-have in any workspace. Who else can't live without their trusty ballpoint pen?

    @Haxx_01_@Haxx_01_10 күн бұрын
    • Me 🙋

      @N0Xa880iUL@N0Xa880iUL10 күн бұрын
    • 🙋🙋🙋

      @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
    • 🙋‍♂️

      @dogcarman@dogcarman9 күн бұрын
    • are you chatGPT?

      @someguy9175@someguy91759 күн бұрын
    • idk, for fine point give me felt tips. For broader stuff, I've always gone with cartridge pens with a metal quill. Cheap ballpoint pens are pretty handy though, they definitely have a place. But I for one can certainly live without them. (Ye olde dip pens aren't that hard to use, just annoying. I always wanted to try a glass one but have only used ones with a metal nib.)

      @whyjnot420@whyjnot4208 күн бұрын
  • dang that was such a cool video! so awesome that things don't need to change, if that are so perfect already. your videos are super informative. keep up the good work!

    @notsuitcase@notsuitcase7 күн бұрын
  • I have used these pens for decades going back to grade school in the 1970's. Now, I use Pliot Precise 0.5mm gel rollers. The ink is more fluid and does not dry up on the tip. This happens sometime with the Bic, though I still have dozens of them!

    @newhampshirelifestyle4233@newhampshirelifestyle42335 күн бұрын
  • The hexagonal shape was also great for rewinding cassette tapes!

    @TheAllMightyGodofCod@TheAllMightyGodofCod9 күн бұрын
    • Yes !! I figured I was not the only person who discovered that use for them.

      @WitchidWitchid@WitchidWitchid6 күн бұрын
  • The BIC pen is just stunning. In fact, the question is: how many inventions have remained identical to their first prototype? Simple yet reliable and efficient... But I think we should also thank the man who came up with the sphere pen design!

    @spacenthusiast@spacenthusiast9 күн бұрын
    • We have remembered him. In ireland, and I'm sure in other countries. It is called a "Biro" rather than a ball point pen.

      @liamwhelehan2703@liamwhelehan27037 күн бұрын
    • He probably stole the idea from someone else and didn't give them credit. Rich business magnates are all scum.

      @TheReaverOfDarkness@TheReaverOfDarkness7 күн бұрын
  • Great video. These pens are totally taken for granted - I'd never thought about how life must've been before them before watching this. Awesome stuff

    @abcbcd1834@abcbcd18346 күн бұрын
  • Proud Argentinian here, like Ladislao José Biro (Born Hungarian and then Argentinian nationalized) and his creation "La Birome" <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="318">5:18</a>. A true innovator.

    @gustavosaliola@gustavosaliola5 күн бұрын
  • A single pen saved the world. Incredible.

    @Air377.@Air377.10 күн бұрын
    • Not really, pencils were a thing long before that

      @Burakozen111@Burakozen1118 күн бұрын
    • There's absolutely no proof that BiC pens were the main driver for improved literacy rates. In fact, the correlation is as tenuous as claiming rock music drove literacy.

      @TheNinetySecond@TheNinetySecond8 күн бұрын
    • Nice one 😄

      @nby149@nby1497 күн бұрын
    • Don't be a sucker, this video is just a BIC advertisement hidden behind a 'documentary'.

      @Monitice@Monitice7 күн бұрын
    • @@TheNinetySecond Actually, there is data to show that rock music improved literacy rates. We also have null data to show that BiC pens didn't.

      @TheReaverOfDarkness@TheReaverOfDarkness7 күн бұрын
  • I think Marcel Bich should be given Nobel prize for that

    @Owlzz_@Owlzz_10 күн бұрын
    • Unfortunately, he is 30 years deceased. Post-mortem Nobel prizes are very stigmatized by the Nobel Foundation.

      @tasteslikewall@tasteslikewall10 күн бұрын
    • @@tasteslikewall oh no :(

      @Owlzz_@Owlzz_10 күн бұрын
    • László Bíró should be

      @Tovalokodonc@Tovalokodonc9 күн бұрын
    • PRESIDENT TRUMP DESERVES ONE FIRST BUT CROOKED CORRUPT LIBS AT NOBLE PRIZE AGENCY REFUSE TO HONOR HIM FOR INVENTING COVID VACINE AND SAVING WORLD INSTEAD THEY GIVE PRIZE TO AL GORE!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!! AL GORE IS LOSER WHO LOST ELECTION!!!

      @viktorakhmedov3442@viktorakhmedov34428 күн бұрын
    • ​@@tasteslikewall *posthumous 🤓

      @Clkr3@Clkr38 күн бұрын
  • The Bic Cristal design is great imho. The hexagonal shape ensures that it never rolls off the table and as an engineering student i can use this pen for technical drawings all the way to making portraits, and still looks amazing!

    @miguelmoreira9123@miguelmoreira91233 күн бұрын
  • I have just discovered your channel for the first time and instandly subscribed due to the insane quality and the perfect picked topics Thank you

    @Olizeii@Olizeii3 күн бұрын
    • Thank you so much! I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment - it means a lot! Welcome to the channel!

      @primalspace@primalspaceКүн бұрын
  • As a retired industrial designer, I find stories like this fabulous and inspiring. I graduated from high school in 1975. The BIC crystal pen was ubiquitous throughout my school years. There are many more choices now, but I'll always remember chewing on the soft cap of a BIC will taking exams...

    @sojourner57@sojourner577 күн бұрын
  • Correlation is not causation. Standards of living, industrialization, and even better healthcare probably did more to improve education and increase literacy rates. And pencils and chalk were standard implements in schools long before pens of any type. But great video on the development and history of an amazing product.

    @chriswaldrip2739@chriswaldrip27399 күн бұрын
    • Indeed. Why did literacy rates skyrocket in the 1950s? Because the countries with the largest populations in the world finally concluded their wars and could undergo education reform: China, India, and the USSR. It had nothing to do with the BiC pen.

      @weirdofromhalo@weirdofromhalo9 күн бұрын
    • Def - technological determinism *and* social shaping

      @helenchelmicka7894@helenchelmicka78948 күн бұрын
  • The design is so practical yet simple. It really made me think how easy our lives have become in such a short time frame.

    @yvetteyang6418@yvetteyang64185 күн бұрын
  • those renders look incredible ! with fluid simulations and stuff, I really need to get back to blender ! Awesome vid, as always

    @PatiMcPat01@PatiMcPat013 күн бұрын
  • Sometimes thinking outside the box is needed to solve problems. Just like trying to change the pen design didn't solve the problem, but changing the ink's recipie was the key breaktrhough. Its insane that this time chemistry helped to change the world

    @antonig3566@antonig35669 күн бұрын
    • like all the other times

      @TheReaverOfDarkness@TheReaverOfDarkness7 күн бұрын
  • This is so intriguing. I always took this simple pen for granted, but never knew that its design was this carefully constructed to millimeter precision 😮 The hexagonal shape was something I never really understood until now. Thanks so much for this! 🙌🏾

    @Khemani_RL@Khemani_RL10 күн бұрын
    • And thanks for watching! So glad that you enjoyed learning more about this seemingly simple item. Good luck in the giveaway!

      @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
  • This was the pen I learnt to write with and 32 years later, it's still my preference. It works exactly like it's supposed to and I love how soothing the blue colour is.

    @TimeWarpKing@TimeWarpKing4 күн бұрын
  • I was born in USSR and in 80-s there were no BiC pens there. We used ink pens in schools, so every pupil carried a small bottle of ink with him and needed to fill his pen. If the bottle dropped in a bag, it was a disaster. Pens with a rod like BiC were not allowed to be used in schools. There were rod pens like BiC but in the very different design. BiC and its copies arrived in the mid 90-s. Some of them were shitty, some were of exceptional quality. It was extremely satisfying to write with them.

    @flytamers7957@flytamers79577 күн бұрын
  • My fondest memories of writing are rolling a BIC pen between my fingers. It felt like a pencil, but writing with it had a permanence that was above writing with graphite. Having to get in line for the one pencil sharpener in the class wasn't a thing anymore, leaving more class time for actual learning. This was and still is a thing of beauty. :)

    @atorres603@atorres6039 күн бұрын
    • I love this! It really was a game-changer. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. Good luck in the giveaway!

      @primalspace@primalspace8 күн бұрын
    • So many memories in one comment!

      @Yesica1993@Yesica19936 күн бұрын
  • Anyone old enough to remember when these things leaked into our shirt pockets, despite the "revolutionary" capillary design? Yeah, that' happened a lot back in the 70's and 80s.

    @NorthernChev@NorthernChev10 күн бұрын
    • That's why they now have a gel backstop. Also they aren't meant to be shaken backwards.

      @N0Xa880iUL@N0Xa880iUL10 күн бұрын
    • @@N0Xa880iUL These pens have a cap with a built-in clip for your pocket. The pen has NO choice but to face upward when capped correctly. Nobody's "shaking" them...

      @NorthernChev@NorthernChev10 күн бұрын
    • @@NorthernChev No I meant, in winters where people shake them to get working again.

      @N0Xa880iUL@N0Xa880iUL10 күн бұрын
    • @@N0Xa880iUL OOoooooohhh! Yep. You're right.

      @NorthernChev@NorthernChev10 күн бұрын
    • Under circumstances they could leak under some circumstances. Much less likely though than than most fountain pens ('vacuum fill' fountain pens are much improved)

      @theronwolf3296@theronwolf32969 күн бұрын
  • I saw someone this morning wearing a t-shirt with the exact same name on it!! Was wondering where I can get on of these ,cause I liked it so much! And the story was inspiring thank you guys!!

    @Ig0098@Ig00985 күн бұрын
  • came here from the thumbnail chat, stayed for a great video. Love how this pen revolutionised the world, just by perfecting its little steel ball and its shape.

    @samuel_soo@samuel_soo4 күн бұрын
    • Thank you so much and thanks for watching!

      @primalspace@primalspace3 күн бұрын
  • I still remember being in primary school in Australia in the late 1960s we were still writing with quills with ink wells in each of the desks and then seeing the first of the biros being advertised on television

    @GRAHAMESIMPSON@GRAHAMESIMPSON9 күн бұрын
    • Wow, you had quill pens *and* television at school at the same time? In the USA we had it the opposite: all fountain pens were a vestige of the past by the time schools even owned a TV. At first, the schools would have like three total TVs which they would wheel around on a cart so each classroom could "rent" a TV to show educational films. The school building wasn't even equipped with television cables.

      @TheReaverOfDarkness@TheReaverOfDarkness7 күн бұрын
    • ​@@TheReaverOfDarknessHe means they had TVs either at home or in shops at that time, not in schools.

      @Ggdivhjkjl@Ggdivhjkjl7 күн бұрын
    • @@Ggdivhjkjl oh! D= I dumbed out there for a moment because my household didn't have a TV when I was a kid.

      @TheReaverOfDarkness@TheReaverOfDarkness7 күн бұрын
    • @@TheReaverOfDarkness TV mum and dad only rented in the school holidays as a treat :)

      @GRAHAMESIMPSON@GRAHAMESIMPSON6 күн бұрын
  • This video fails to mention the millions of businessmen's dress shirts that were ruined because the pens were prone to leaking in one's pocket.

    @AlQahira@AlQahira7 күн бұрын
    • ...And school children's pockets! I grew to hate BIC.

      @zunipus@zunipus4 күн бұрын
  • Wow... I did not expect that such simple tool today as a pen went through this way and how expensive it could be back in the time! Thanks for the video!

    @vladislavkaras491@vladislavkaras4915 күн бұрын
  • What created a rise in literacy was the huge spread of public education projects in the world during those same years, including in developing countries such as Brazil and China. The demand changed the pen, not the other way around.

    @jorgetuselli6885@jorgetuselli68854 күн бұрын
  • The "Point" of this pen is so that everyone can have a "Ball" while writing.

    @GreenHatAnimation@GreenHatAnimation10 күн бұрын
    • 😂😂😂 Bravo!

      @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
    • Lol

      @d.k.1394@d.k.13948 күн бұрын
    • what a delicious groaner 😂

      @tzgaming207@tzgaming2078 күн бұрын
    • Lol, crazy how a video about a pen could get many people inking what’s the point of digital technology, lol

      @languagewithlindsey@languagewithlindsey6 күн бұрын
  • Another genius part of the design is how the core can be used as a projectile in a blowgun you create from the case

    @orest58008@orest580088 күн бұрын
    • One TV ad for Bic pens showed firing a Bic Pen out of a rifle through a plank to show how tough they are. "Shooting a BIC pen out of a rifle(60's era comercial)" Before the brass tip was replaced with plastic. Also I discovered a dry pen with brass tip might be restarted after a few moments in a flame. Famed ice skater, Aja Zanova, showed me it was perfectly rational to Stic a pen in fire.

      @christopherweber4745@christopherweber47456 күн бұрын
  • I use this every day and I love it but today is the day when I got to know it's incredible engineering I love it thank you Bic cristal ❤

    @aviationfromnaman@aviationfromnaman7 күн бұрын
  • It was the most accessible pen on the market at the time, and it was my favorite. It's really satisfying to write with it.

    @maxjava6482@maxjava6482Күн бұрын
  • My absolute favourite pen. Stack a few papers underneath to soften the paper up. *chefs kiss* Thank you for another amazing video before I even watch! 🇨🇦

    @DRL92@DRL9210 күн бұрын
    • It really is the best! Thanks so much for watching!

      @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
  • Who would have thought that something so simple would do so much!

    @rolandmarcum3683@rolandmarcum36839 күн бұрын
  • I once found grandpa's pen, this exact model from 80's, stuck inbetween pillows of his fav couch. It was 40+ years old and I sucked its ink dry. Never had pen so smooth since.

    @kolper6799@kolper67993 күн бұрын
  • Id be happy to hear about some of the changes in the design over time. For example the stopper fluid. When i was younger i was always puzzled by what it is for.

    @vojtechmarsal8576@vojtechmarsal85767 күн бұрын
  • I still prefer fountain pens over these, way smoother and cheaper on the long run (refillable with cheap ink)

    @jony4t@jony4t9 күн бұрын
    • Nothing like a good Montblanc, huh?

      @fabiana.4640@fabiana.46408 күн бұрын
    • ​@@fabiana.4640ohhh man, nothing like a montegrappa, yes ver cheap indeed 😂😂😂

      @castillo5148@castillo51487 күн бұрын
    • ​@@fabiana.4640dang I just searchhed it up and theyre... no words

      @castillo5148@castillo51487 күн бұрын
  • Wow, I didn’t know that. Now I know the backstory that I never thought to look for.

    @chrisl2652@chrisl265210 күн бұрын
    • Definitely makes you look at the "simplest" things in life a little differently. Thanks so much for watching.

      @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
  • I never imagined how hard it is to make a pen. And the fact it took so much work to create such a simple product is mind bogglin

    @JumpingMike333@JumpingMike3337 күн бұрын
  • The first large-scale customer for ball point pens was the British Royal Air Force (RAF). Their navigators needed to make many notes, calculations, lines, etc. while in flight (pre-GPS days). Fountain pen ink froze in flight, and was unusable. Pencils worked, but were hard to read in the dim light allowed in the navigators area (too much light blinded the pilots). So when Biro introduced the Ball Point pen, after trying them, the RAF bought several thousand of them.

    @cpovey1@cpovey15 күн бұрын
  • Ball point pen is my favourite pen ever.

    @N0Xa880iUL@N0Xa880iUL10 күн бұрын
    • I'm gay too buggy lol

      @kylekorona@kylekorona10 күн бұрын
    • I agree bro

      @desiredditor@desiredditor10 күн бұрын
    • 🙌🙌🙌

      @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
    • I think there's still a niche for fountain pens. I love the way there are so many ink shades you can buy, and the ability to vary line thickness gives a lot of opportunity for self-expression.

      @XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX@XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX10 күн бұрын
    • @@XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX Yeah also fountain pens are extremely collectible and have high emotional value.

      @N0Xa880iUL@N0Xa880iUL10 күн бұрын
  • I chewed on soooo many of these pens!!! This channel is amazing. Any truth to the hole in the lid being so you can't choke and cut off air?

    @timpgod@timpgod10 күн бұрын
    • I mean ive heard of people chewing pencils, But a pen???

      @JerryCan101@JerryCan10110 күн бұрын
    • Yes, there is truth to that! The hole in the lid of the BIC Cristal serves multiple purposes. One important function is to prevent choking hazards. If someone accidentally swallows the pen cap, the hole allows air to pass through, reducing the risk of suffocation. Additionally, the hole helps regulate air pressure, preventing the pen from leaking ink at high altitudes. So, it's not just a design feature; it's a safety measure too.

      @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
    • @@primalspace nice

      @JerryCan101@JerryCan10110 күн бұрын
    • I used to love chewing the Bic Crystal's small, soft, end cap, especially while pondering test answers. But I guess people choked on it or something, because it's now hard plastic and glued in. Sigh.

      @GEKay-xt2cq@GEKay-xt2cq9 күн бұрын
  • Love this pen. I've tried untold numbers of pens over the years, but I always like this one the most for its hand feel and how well it flows when I write.

    @chrisjames7887@chrisjames78875 күн бұрын
  • As one of those people who still use and enjoy fountain pens, i don't much care to go back to the ballpoint world, but even I have to admit how smart this design was and how important it became

    @Hexsyn@Hexsyn5 күн бұрын
  • Glad you mentioned the Hungarian Laszlo Biro in the video :)

    @Sonnell@Sonnell10 күн бұрын
    • Do you mean Argentinian national Ladislao Biro?

      @ArgLarper@ArgLarper9 күн бұрын
    • @@ArgLarper He was born and raised in Hungary, where he created his ballpoint pen. Later he fled to Argentina. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A1szl%C3%B3_B%C3%ADr%C3%B3

      @Sonnell@Sonnell9 күн бұрын
    • @@ArgLarper Sounds like made-up Argentine fascist propaganda! It didn't work with the "Malvinas" either...

      @dantetre@dantetre9 күн бұрын
  • The fact that the pen's cap was given a hole to prevent choking would actually go on to influence the design of other pens in the future is just amazing.

    @sitheakewinphlong6579@sitheakewinphlong65798 күн бұрын
  • this is an extremely rare W for industrial society. thank you for making this video as i'm grateful to have learned this info

    @prototypefan1234@prototypefan12344 күн бұрын
  • The pen was soo impactful yet if you were to show this oen to anyone they would recognize it as the BIC pen but nothing more, truly an icon!!

    @sanjay48m@sanjay48m6 күн бұрын
  • This pen is the goat, I have so many of them in my house

    @frozenlocked4685@frozenlocked46856 күн бұрын
    • haha same. They really are everywhere.

      @primalspace@primalspace5 күн бұрын
  • I never thought about how much of an impact a single pen could make. Crazy how the design has stayed essentially the same, it’s one of the very few things that someone from the ‘50s could instantly recognize today.

    @DaRealJake@DaRealJake6 күн бұрын
  • An action figure, a plane's body, a blowgun, a chewing stick, a mini javelin... and you can write with it it too! Truly man's greatest invention!

    @nellym46664@nellym466644 күн бұрын
  • I was educated in the fifties. In 1956, an inkstand with ink was installed in each bench. The use of fountain pens was prohibited. in the 1960s fountain pens were allowed, but ballpoint pens were not. So I participated in a great technological revolution.😎

    @golddddus@golddddus4 күн бұрын
  • You must admit that this invention is up there with the wheel and string, literacy rates going from 30 to 90 percent in less than a century is just too great a feat to credit.

    @ageofsailaneraforgotten5380@ageofsailaneraforgotten538010 күн бұрын
    • 💯💯💯

      @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
  • your life isnt complete if you havent used a bic pen like this at least ONCE

    @hayder0687@hayder06878 күн бұрын
    • I've smoked H with one of these bad boys

      @resto4life@resto4life6 күн бұрын
    • 🤢🤮 😾

      @zunipus@zunipus4 күн бұрын
  • I knew these were my favourite pens for a reason. So interesting to hear the backstory to them!

    @joethompson11@joethompson115 күн бұрын
  • The ballpoint pen was invented by Laszlo Biro. Bíró presented the first production of the ballpoint pen at the Budapest International Fair in 1931. Working with his brother György, a chemist, he developed a new tip consisting of a ball that was free to turn in a socket, and as it turned it would pick up ink from a cartridge and then roll to deposit it on the paper. Bíró patented the invention in Paris in 1938.

    @babszemek@babszemek6 күн бұрын
  • It is amazing how one product can have such a bic inpact on the world!

    @zenoarte8668@zenoarte86688 күн бұрын
    • And on top of that, this pen only worth a bic!

      @namesand506@namesand5066 күн бұрын
    • but girls think this product is boring n nerdy tho

      @jake9854@jake98546 күн бұрын
  • In the 70's, companies were looking for new products to market. BIC was one of the earliest disposable lighter manufacturers and is still the preferred brand. I had no idea of the origin of the Bic's name. Thx.

    @jameswaters3939@jameswaters39396 күн бұрын
  • It's amazing how something so simple made such a huge difference!

    @guiltyapollyon8085@guiltyapollyon80856 күн бұрын
  • Love this channel and the information it teachers us

    @WhoKnew.@WhoKnew.10 күн бұрын
    • Yummy

      @kylekorona@kylekorona10 күн бұрын
    • Thank you so much! I'm so glad you enjoy it!

      @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
  • you cant include the iphone as that is over 15 seprate products just with the same name- BIC make many other pens but you didnt count them !

    @malakiblunt@malakiblunt10 күн бұрын
    • That's fair haha.

      @primalspace@primalspace10 күн бұрын
    • The iPhone is a single product line with updates to the model over time just like this pen even tho not as big changes. BiC has different product lines for different products.

      @puddlejumper3259@puddlejumper32597 күн бұрын
  • I remember when I was in middle school, and feeling bored during math class, I discovered how my pen actually works. I was always wondering about the purpose of the little ball. Thanks for this video!

    @hamse46z@hamse46z5 күн бұрын
  • The improvements on the machinery which manufacture small steel balls are the foundation of modern technology. Small steel balls are used to manufacture ball bearings, which are at the very heart of everything that keeps modern machines moving, in a very literal sense.

    @chuckoneill2023@chuckoneill20236 күн бұрын
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