The Holotile infinite floor/360 treadmill could be sick for VR.
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An MKBHD interview with Lanny Smoot please!
There are more things you guys are also known about
Many more things your known for right
Exciting stuff!
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the graphic explaining how the mat works was really good and informative
We're finally getting closer to ready player one's vision 😩
@@user-gw1os2lb3j thats bad you get that right?
@@Konarcoffee huh?
Yeah I'm glad I finally got a video that actually explained how the freaking tiles work lol
I wonder how much height it will need if it will become available if it requires less than a foot it would be great 5 inches would be massive for home entertainment or game centers
As a former Disney Imagineer & current archivist with the Walt Disney Archives in Anaheim, I am so happy that my former cast members gave YOU the opportunity to test these all out! I worked with Lanny for a 3 month period in mid 2018 doing some research on articulating movement for this in a strict alpha build & cannot believe the evolution of where it is now! Congrats Marques - I couldn’t think of a more deserving person to come to our lab 💜
These little robots have the same expressions as animated characters! Mad props to the engineers that built and programmed these. My mind is blown that this is even possible already.
We need to get another episode where you interview Lanny! I'm sure Disney was pretty strict on who gets to talk and say what, but I want to hear from Lanny.
For real, dude seems awesome!
That man is a legend and not having Lanny and Marques together is a missed opportunity.
Yeah, he gives off "just a dad working on things he's passionate about" energy
Please make this happen! ❤
I agree that would be an amazing interview
I love those droids in the beginning. It feels so futuristic.
Awesome! Definitely AI is on the rise. Imagine what Quantum Computing and Metaverse will look like in the 2030s or 2050s
@@juniorchavesopicassodeyahu988 I will look like nuclear fallout
@@juniorchavesopicassodeyahu988 quantum computing will never be available to the general public and that is not its goal
@@MisterPeKathat will age like fine milk
what's weird about those little droids is they are using pretty old hardware. Its not even in the current generation of GPU's. They were these little A.I boards Nvidia made years ago and apparently they run on those. I was sad to see that they are controlled by humans but still absolutely adorable.
It's so cool to see Valve Steam Deck being used for development work that isn't games.
That and the GPD Win 3 I saw and my first thought was "that'd be great for a ROS controller for industrial robots".
I am happy he talked about the eyes and inner ear. I've tried to explain it to people who talk about VR sickness and don't understand it. It's the same reason why you can get seasick (along with the rolling). You can earn your VR/Sea legs, by just sticking with it and your brain will build new pathways to make it okay.
Marques just not even mentioning the fact that he got hands-on with one of the "real" extending lightsabers while simultaneously showing it is really, really funny.
Had the same exact thought while watching. That is just too funny.
timestamp please?
nvm 4:41
They HAVE to invite him back for progress reports.
An episode for the lightsaber
Disney using a steam deck as a controller is hilarious 😂
Insane
Hey if a sub can use a Logitech controller, then why not?
At 3:42 they are using a Nunchuck for the treadmill thingy
Why? It's basically a fully linux computer that has a built in controller
Why? It's a great piece of hardware and they don't have to build something from scratch.
Imagine being queued up for a ride and when someone tries to cut, the floor just puts them back where they started.
Hahaha, that would be pretty funny!
I loved the ability to "move" things at 4:45! Thanks for the honest review, Marques 🙏🏾.
5:24 getting stick drift on that would be something else
RUNNING IN THE 90S is a new way to set me free
imagine moonwalking on this
We need more of this!
Tilted rotating discs is absolutely genius for an omnidirectional treadmil. Having this for VR would be killer
Wonder if Disney patented it, I would assume so
@@tidnid1869It's disney, they definitely has multiple patents on it. The reason Lenny has over 70 patents is because disney patent anything they can get through the patent office.
I've definitely seen someone playing VR on something very similar to this on tiktok
"Having this for VR would be killer"
@@tidnid1869 they said he has over 70 ,..... so prob so.
This is historical, two people who look like me at the top of their class creating and reviewing cutting edge technology. I love my people so much. ✊🏾
You mean humans?
Now THIS is a great 1st version. Excited to see more in the future!
Very interesting. It’s louder than I expected. Great idea. It occurs to me that the radial velocity on the edge of the disc makes it such that there is a slipping friction thing happening. You would have to have an infinitely small tangential point touching in order to eliminate that which is not possible. Very fun to think about.
It seems like using spheres instead of discs would get around this issue? But perhaps spheres are harder to actuate at this scale.
I have to imagine that at this stage they haven't really done much to control the noise. It would make sense to focus on getting the motion control right, then focus on reducing noise while maintaining the same motion control capabilities. If they spent a lot of time and money on noise now there could easily be a design change needed that would necessitate throwing all the noise reduction work out the window.
Pretty sure the disks are some kind of very low friction material.
@@stephenzuccaro1090this might be a great idea
Also, the video mentioned making them small but the smaller you make it, the faster it would have to spin to achieve the same edge speed. I bet this is a lot of fun to work on
that man, Lanny Smoot, is a living legend. He has done so much and is the only other Disney employee (other than Walt) to be inducted into the national inventors hall of fame. You need to do a big sit down interview with him. Plus all his time at Bell Labs. He must have so many stories to share. I'd love to hear you interview him.
So he's basically Lucius Fox?
Thanks for all the details. Perfectly described. I do hope they continue to develop this.
That seems like the perfect fitness treadmill in combination with a VR-Headset that lets you explore some really cool place
Very jealous. I've always wanted to visit Disney Imagineering. Such incredible stuff they're working on there. Great video.
@@Tiger10002 do you think mkbhd asked his parents for money to buy a professional camera? Work hard and earn it on your own kid. Otherwise you're gonna face disappointment in the future.
@@Osaaamaaa Literally yes, MKBHD comes from a wealthy background. Obviously hard work and dedication are necesarry too, and he got that.
@@Osaaamaaa Should I use my bootstraps?
I wonder what the usefulness would be in something like warehousing infrastructure. Looks like a cool way for automatically bringing supplies to a manufacturing line
@@marwin4348 he has previously said he bought all his professional gear with money he made off youtube. He began youtube when he was in highschool and his parents didn't buy him any professional gear. He worked hard and levelled up on his own.
Forget the VR...the box moving is blowing my mind... the applications for this technology is mind blowing to think about, like for one I'm imagining a warehouse with the entire floor built with holotile, and instead of needing teams of people and pallet jacks/etc. you just have someone with a special sensor-glove that points at stuff and moves it to where it needs to go. Thank you for the video, watching this sort of stuff really gets me excited for what's to come!
Think by that point the system would be able to identify where things need to go on its own, by then would likely be entirely automated
@@extremeencounter7458 but it would be fun tho
this already exists@@extremeencounter7458
They pretty much have the necessary functionality for things like this in high tech warehouses and mail sorting facilities. But I'm sure this can be taken even further.
Wharehouse automation can be done with far more simple technology though 😅
This is just amazing tech! Straight out of my dreams!
quality video, tnx you always explain perfectly.
I saw the thumbnail and immediately thought, shout out to Lanny Smoot, inventor of the HoloTile, and 106 patents, an imagineer at Disney. Amazing video!!! 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿✨
Yes!👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Genius
I immediately thought, why isn't he wearing his own shoes?
Based on the melanin rich emojis I’m seeing, we’re also proud for the obvious reason 🙌🏾🎉
Disney adults are next level
The very fact that MKBHD is the only Tech channel that gets to review such products & interview the OG's of the industry, clearly shows where MKBHD stands vs other Tech channels. Nothing but respect to him.
I mean, yeah. He's not a reviewer, he's an advertiser. Big corporations feel safe around him. Not the complement you think it is.
So when a tech company is successful, it’s thanks to his influence. But when a company fails, it’s not his fault? 🤦♂️
Negative dudes incoming 💀👆👇
@@jmc042have you seen any of his reviews bro?
@@jmc042 Credit where credit is due, MKBHD has always came across as honest when he likes a product or not. Unlike most other reviewers, he tries to see the philosophy that went into making a product and go beyond their marketed attributes to determine if it's worth it or not. With a channel of his size, any product he showcases is gonna be an advertisement for it, wether he has good or bad things to say about them.
I've watched so many videos of this thing, trying to figure out how it works. Thank you so much for your explanation!
absolutely amazing!
that mat is brilliant for VR. imagine playing a shooter game, or an open-world game, and not having to be tethered or physically run into things (without a tether). 360 degree flexibility, coupled with VR headset, and you're in complete immersion. that's something i've always envisioned so i'm glad someone solved it
So you can exercise while playing ,nlce
not yet
not a mat, that’s definitely built into the floor
most people, like 99% of gamers wouldn't use it. it's waaay too physical. I want to try it too but I'm sure I won't use it more than a few times. Specially true for older (not teens) gamers. We want to sit and play for a little while after work. We don't want a full work out battle every 20 minutes 😂
@@kingfisher46 Gonna get skinny while walking across empty planets in Starfield.
I have been following Imagineering for decades and from the time that the first animatronics figures they invented came about in the mid-1960’s.. At 17 (about 1974) I was given a private tour and the tech was amazing for back then. Millions go to Disney theme parks and never realize the tech and innovation that is behind the attractions. Pirates of the Caribbean ride at Disneyland that opened in 1967 is still to this day the gold standard!
Was there an original film about the pirates before Johnny Depp? How good was it?
@@tatianaes3354 Funnily enough, those films are based on the attraction at Disneyland. Same thing happened with Jungle Cruise; Disneyland attraction came first, film came after.
@@tatianaes3354 No, it was just an attraction and movie was based on it.
Wow
This is sooooo cool!! I love the Imagineers.
this takes spinney chair to a whole new level. imagine doing the chair thing but with a whole go kart track aswell.
this is so much more than something for a theme park. There are industrial, transportation, VR, and shipping used for this worth billions. Good job Lanny! Hope you are paid very well
Name me one transportation or shipping use.
@@EikottXD Moving packages in a warehouse precisely
@@EikottXD They do this sort of thing on planes as well. Some planes have massive containers for your luggage and other items on board that have to be lifted, reoriented and placed on a vehicle for transport. I've only seen this as a passenger so I'm ignorant of the full process here, but i do know that this can take a considerable amount of time for a single container. Reorienting each container has to be done with a human operated controller and takes a lot of finagling and precise inputs.
@@EikottXD Have the floor of a cargo truck covered in Holotile, as well as specific pathways through the warehouse. A worker could just "force push", or just remote control, crates and pallets around, and you'd only need to bust out the forklift to lift and stack the cargo. The less driving a piece of heavy machinery in an enclosed space where people walk, the better.
@@GODOFGUITAR2112yeah not really. Imagine how much would this cost ? A random loser operating a work lift is the way to go
This actually looks like a promising product that will eventually solve the VR issue of feeling like you're still stuck in your living room
When it gets cheaper? Absolutely. Problem is this kind of technology is still expensive and we don’t know how well this scales down. Or how portable it is.
Nope definitely not. You'd need convincing climate/wind simulation for that.
@@Nicktals seriously, fixing the wind issue would be the easiest thing to solve once you have a holotile that works at home.
@@JasonMamoa-ee2fl Durability? They might also include sensing as well.
@@Nicktalsclimate and wind solutions already exist. We have fans, humidifiers, heat lamps, air conditioning, etc. obviously it would be hard to make that work at your house, but it would be very doable for like a theme park or vr experience type place.
Hearing you explain the cause of motion sickness - fabulous job! Great video!
SUPER exciting to think about what tech like this could do for advancements in accessibility, disability aids, and physical rehab therapies!
MKBHD x Dinsey is the collab we never knew we needed
Blah 🙂...
we didnt need it
F Disney he aold out tho
Needed.. No, it's an awful company.
@@TurdFergusen we need it hehehe 😂😂😂😂 it's colored
3:39 Love how Marquess is using a Wii Nunchuck to control the mini Holotile floor
They're using a whole range of controllers
@@hamza-chaudhry I know just funny how Disney a billion dollar company is using a Wii Nunchuck to control the Holotiles which I love.
I am so glad you did this video. Lanny Smoot is the inventor and one of this generations most brilliant minds.
Great video!! Thank you for sharing!!
A while back I worked on a VR project (very experimental) called Redirected Walking... The idea behind it was that if you stood in an empty field with a tree and were asked to walk towards that tree, you could do it. But if you were blindfolded, there was no way. So we would take advantage of that in VR and "redirect" in the direction that we wanted you to go (usually towards the center of the room). It was proven that in an area the size of a school gymnasium, you could "fool" someone into thinking that they were walking indefinitely in a straight line by showing them visual that they were walking straight but actually making them curve around the physical space. We did a weird application where we had enemies that would spawn in specific places to get the player to look in different directions to adjust where we wanted them to look/feel like they were. This sounds very much like something that would help this technology :)
That sounds very interesting! But I'd imagine the crux here is that you had a large enough space to where these changes to direction were gradual enough to be rendered imperceptible in combination with the adjusting visual perspective. But in a platform of this size I don't think you could easily pull off something like that.
damn thats genius!!
@@roxasthegreek i think if you tiled this design out to ~4 times it's size and made software adjustments to improve alignment, or reduce the wheel size as marcus mentioned, it would be large enough for freeform movement. And no matter how small the space, you could always incorporate the design philosophy to make it a little easier to work with what you have
@@roxasthegreek We didn't really have access to large spaces so we were trying to come up with ways it could work in smaller spaces. The company I was doing the project for eventually went under, but we did do some interesting stuff that would at least make a 20' x 20' room feel about 1.5x bigger. We wanted to try some additional stuff but ran out of time. The most interesting thing that we did was our algorithm for spawning enemies. For example, if we wanted the player to be "redirected" 20 degrees to the left, we would spawn an enemy to the right when they turned right, it LOOKED like it was 45 degrees, but was actually 35, and then we'd spawn another one to the left and when the player turned left, LOOKED 45 but was actually 55. I'm just making up those numbers off the top of my head, and you'd have to fiddle with the perceptual threshold (there's a delta angle above which you can definitely notice that the angle isn't correct), but it worked pretty well. If the player didn't turn as far as you'd like, you just spawn more enemies.
The HoloTile treadmill is mind-blowing, and it's intriguing to envision its potential in VR.
When this will become a standard, gamers will be like olympians 💪
Why the bot comment
@@lootownicano Olympians will become gamers
Some Ready Player One sh!t there, love it
@@O.Reagano The form of it so darn obvious AI
such a great visualisation by your video team!
After a long time a real good one from MKBHD. I am not saying it because of the tech but for Marques's R&D on understanding the tech and explanation to general people. Good Job.
mad respect to the team behind this, never in a million years would i have thought of a solution like this and ive been researching vr related things like treadmills for years now
Just run and levitate 😅
Can you imagine an attachment like fake grass or something for a medieval type videogame? or even an updated model with support for heavy running? the amount of possibilities with the mindblowing invention is INSANE
Yep, golf ⛳ will be the first sports experience for sure
@@casynovidsin what world would this technology benefit vr golf? Would you wanna simulate walking to the ball you shanked into the water? Lmao tf are you talking about
Too bad that won't happen any time soon. It will be patented and used for some exhibits only at disney parks.
@@casynovidsgolf!? Wtf! 😂
although the is some work needed, it would make a killer ready player one omnidirectional treadmil the only thing holding it back is the feel of moving side ways while trying to move straight ahead.
so cool bro, thanks for that video. more disney invention videos!
This is pretty good!
Would love to see some chatting with Lanny. He was such a interesting person in that Disney demo video for this. That being said being able to see the Holotile with additional demos is pretty awesome!
0:33 Wow!!! I can't believe you actually got to record INSIDE! I can't tell you how many people with pull who haven't had that privilege.
He’s the only one
@@joshuamusser8893 except for CNET and others that went at the same time.
Your content is always a pleasure to watch
This is frickin awesome.
Disney's Imagineering is so amazing. Fantastic to see this kind of real life magic being developed for entertainment. Love it.
I love how Disney can bring that wholesome and warm feeling to an otherwise boring and cold technology. Much like how Boston Dynamics gave Spot a bit of personality than just being a standard workhorse. And these floor tiles are gonna be incredible once they figure out all the specs. Practically quiet and allowing you to run is definitely the goal. Perfect for training and even physical rehabilitation.
Disney does not give me a warm feeling, they are a horrible mega corporation and that completely overshadows everything else.
@@mattymerr701 buzzkill
Or building a theme park that automatically moves you to a gift shop every 15 minutes :D
@@mattymerr701can you give some examples?
What wholesome and warm feeling?!? Cool tech but the fact it’s in Disney’s hands leaves a sour taste in my mouth
Top Tier Production as Always.. Wonderful video Marques
3:07 the is very clever. I've thought quite a bit about this, but this solution is far more eloquent than anything I'd considered
Marques: "This is the only one that exists" Temu: "Not anymore"
Implying they'd be able to make something like this that has this many moving parts on such a small scale that have to be strong enough to support an adult person. The wheels would start to jam and break within an hour.
wait its on temu??
@@snozzmcberry2366 I mean if its 1000th of the price its probably worth it.
@@snozzmcberry2366 nobody said it would be good or even functional
@@snozzmcberry2366 why didn't they just go with spherical balls
Disney x MKBHD?? Whoa! These are worlds colliding I never thought I’d see
1st
disney is trash
My parents said if I hit 20k they would tell @Tiger10002 's parents not to buy him a camera. begging you guys literally begging!
Hi white
@@Tiger10002 create content instead with what you've got now 🙄
Got to talk to several Imagineers over the years and they're an amazing blend of creativity and intelligence
Wow, magic shoes themselves!!🤩🤩
Lanny Smoot is one of the greatest inventors in history, and Disney Engineering is truly blessed to have him in their ranks too! Holo tiles are freaking awesome, and I hope his invention gets utilised in multiple industries (of course, depending on Disney itself)!
Woah Woah Woah WOAH!! Holotiles AND a surprise appearance by the new Lightsaber?!?!
Very impressive and genius tech ! Thanks for sharing. I was asking myself if there is a particular science behind the tile placement ? The shape of the treadmill seem random, but i'am pretty shure it's not ^^ i will had expected a more "standard" geometry for the outline, but here, it's nothing close to it. We can also see the kind of non regularity on the smaller version too.
This was amazing
03:27 That sweet animation explained the concept very well Marques!
If this was almost any other channel, I'd assume that they were given this animation by Disney. With this channel, I could absolutely believe it was done in-house.
This would solve the whole "A treadmill is too big for my appartment"-thing but also in a futuristic airport move the passengers directly to their gates and/or give them live directions. The fields of usage for these HoloDecks are endless - love it.
Entire warehouses floored with this stuff, boxes just magically glide around to their destinations!
This was actually very, very cool. Can't wait to see it implemented!
Marques seems so flexing with such exclusive visits and calls like he is the top g tech reviewer out there.. and the world knows he is the top g.. not about money.. not about fame.. just pure passion, consistency, hard work and brains has got him here..
4:44 is hilarious, Marques fully realizing his inner Jedi
It’s at 4:44 ….coz it’s the Force!! May the 4th be with you!
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I'm more interested in the lightsaber. It clearly didn't have a blade
@@owentharp6906To learn more about the lightsaber, search for Disney lightsaber retractable blade
@@owentharp6906its a new version, the blade comes out
we making it to the OASIS with this one
Man, I hope
Man i hope not the world in that book fucking sucks,I rather we fix the real world first
@@kanjonojigoku8644capitalism
That'd be dope
@@kanjonojigoku8644 capitalism
this is by the coolest tech to come out in a long while. Vision Pros were neat, but is nothing compared to this because this has SO many applications for the future. I can't wait for the future to have this someday :D
That looked awesome
I am so thrilled you came to visit and let us show off just SOME of the cool things in the works. Stay tuned for more. "There's a great big beautiful tomorrow~~"
This is the next step to creating the perfect VR setup in one’s home.
I can't even imagine how expensive a setup like this would be... It will not be affordable for 90% of gamers.
@@jazzinthevoid 90 its giga low, 99% wont be able to affford this setup, the motors alone would cost a fortune then you need the software
And the space in the ground
@@RochyTw yeah this will never be a consumer product. Not just because it'd be expensive but just because at that point you're catering to a niche of a niche of a niche market. I mean Apple is learning that it is hard to sell an expensive VR headset right now as well. But for theme parks? Yeah this is dope.
@@DekenFrostremember computers in 1980s? Niche of a niche, requiring 2 rooms to store, expensive as hell?
I'm amazed it calibrated to YOUR speed, and that means experiences can be personally tailored!
that is amazing
The industrial /commercial application of moving large objects is incredible.
But also pretty solved with cranes, gantries, and wheels. These definitely won't replace fork lifts
@@lomiification might be something similar to this if a factory is fully automated, except maybe some person up in a control booth with some headset. Having no real people on the floor would let robots zoom around at dangerously high speeds while someone up top can manually move stuff safely if needed. But I think you're right that why go to all that trouble when you could just make a ceiling mounted crane do it too. I can't imagine it's less maintenance
Omnidirectional conveyor belts are already a thing
I can't be the only one that sees crazy potential for this beyond VR and theme parks. Imagine a woodworking shop where you have a bunch of machines and carts scattered around the entire shop, but instead of having to pick up all this stuff to move it, you just use the force. That's just one application, I could see this being useful in a number of other places
One of the things I also would use my tech influence to see... Really nice 💪
A DLP-ish array of rotating surfaces! It's brilliant!
Wow, Lanny Smoot seems like a bonafide genius! Really excited to see where this tech can go.
I watch a lot of VR stuff and this is by far the best omni-directional treadmill i’ve seen
portable hope
amazing content
its great because like VR there is not gonna be only one type/company that try this, there is gonna be multiples companies developing this tecnology for sure in the future not only disney, not only USA.
Lanny Smoot is the GOAT. So much greatness from this one man. 🙇
I can already see the advancements in a senior living home ommitting the use of wheelchairs, just a chair to sit in that can move you around the living space! Crazy!
Utterly useless
so remote-powered chairs? which already exists?
What's wrong with you two?? This comment is gold!
Feel like it would be counter intuitive for elderly folks. Remote control wheel chairs already exist and it's really loud which I imagine is not ideal for the elderly. Plus I imagine it would be really expensive to line up your an entire house or retirement home with it. Even then you would still need wheelchairs as how are they gonna go outside. It's only gonna be in your house. Really counter productive of a product as brilliant as this.
And this is why engineering is a high level job. People THINK their ideas make sense but than an engineer will come in and poke holes in it until its Swiss cheese lol. Electric wheel chairs are way better than an entire floor treadmill. Which is why we don’t have flying cars.
Wonderful project
Brilliant!
That floor is remarkable!! I've been dying to understand how it works since its debut!
Little droid looks more human then most of the people nowadays. Imagine them little droids wandering around the Theme park and then start to interact with some little kid. This must be so surreal and a situation they probably never forget. The movement looks so damn "natural" and "alive". Stunning.
I'm 14 and it's deep
It's so awesome that we get to see the early stages of this because we all can see the absolute potential.
i did a similar diy project a couple of years ago with marbles on a 3d printed floor, though the idea was you would be strapped in place and the marbles would just give a sensory readout to be used in vr. doing it like this looks really cool though
This was the best review of that treadmill! Hearing the sound, seeing it working with a "not supposed" vr set, seeing someone training doing it. Best review.
There's going to be some seriously fit gamers in our future with this tech haha
your right
Pokemon didn't do it money waste .....
Ready Player Two
@@Akilla02 y'roue*
The "sitting in a chair and moving with a joystick" reminded me of Wall-E
wow! super cool
Holy crap this is cool. I love when engineers get to have fun building something with some really interesting application.
MKBHD talking about Imagineering is so cool. As a tech person the blend of engineering and art Imagineers work on is so cool.
imagine a jail cell w no bars but just a 360 treadmill that never lets you escape
Actually, being able to have VR in cell may do wonders for a prisoner's mental health and rehabilitation.
You could just bunny hop your way to freedom.
@@jfifield20 We're not talking VR. Just a white room, 10'x10', where it is physically impossible to get more than 2 feet from any edge. I think that would pretty much constitute torture.
One must imagine the prisoner escaping
Black mirror could definitely include this in an episode. Vr ai trapping you to its will.
I worked with an omnidirectional treadmill setup back in 2013 and it used multiple treadmills (based on rotating rolls instead of a normal treadmill) in a circular setup (like a pizza). the middle piece was a small static circle as a point of rest. The speed would increase based on the distance to the middle point combined with current speed calculations and projections. Back than we used oculus1 dk and another lesser know prototype of a different company. It was quite an immersion. However walking along the outer edge never felt convincing since it pulled you sideways to get you back to the middle. I can see this design making use of the straight line illusion more gradually (with multiple angles) and it is less prominently moving you to the "side"
love your videos man