Predator Hunting with an AR-15 | TPH35
2022 ж. 6 Жел.
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Today, we address some recent controversy on an instagram post of ours, then dive headfirst in considerations of using an AR-15 for Predator Hunting.
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556 subscribers... nice.
We totally meant to do that!
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Great pod cast. Since discovering your channel, I have been playing it practically 24/7. Loved hearing that your AR builds mirror my own (target shooting only) so far. Every gun I have built has been from scratch. Even a few guns into it, and picking everything I wanted, each build ends up being an on going evolution until it shoots in a manor I am happy with. And yes, suppression rules.
ive watched/listened to all these podcasts 2 or 3 times keep em coming
Thanks for watching! What’s some topics you’d like to see us cover?
@@txpredatorhunting I like where your going with the 6 arc stuff but as a guy who loves his Valkyrie I’m super interested in ur thoughts on the short barrel. Even a full reloading one would be cool
@@jwagner47 perfect
My favorite podcast TPH, Good stuff guys👍
Thanks for watching!
Dig this info. 2nd AR build in 6ARC as a handloader I want all the tunings possible. The SA adj. gas block is great. Another thing I had to work out on this rifle was the buffer weight and spring. If you run a rifle stock it gives you more buffer spring length (recoil runway) to play with and can smooth out things so that you can spot your own shots wile staying in the scope. I didn't realize how big of a thing that was going to be but it matters. I can stay in scope and spot shots at 1k with 16x. If you zoom out that helps but you have to have great glass and most of the scopes are optimized for higher mag, so... but when you zoom out everything is tinier and larger bullets help but its all trade offs. I am running 105 bergers (mostly) but there is also the option of copper solids that give you better BCs for weight and you can shoot them faster. I'm using these for target shooting though. Great Informative long form videos..
Love listening to ur podcasts keep up the good work
Thanks for listening.
Loving the 6 arc just the brass conversion from 6.5 grendel to arc sucks. I have been using satern barrels they are great for the money sub 3/4 groups
224 valkyrie is my primary,and 6arc has been my "this year" go to round for coyotes and whitetail. Will probably go back to my valkyrie soon since I was able to score some ammo. Would like to try some of the lighter 6arc rounds though!
One thing I'll add in is that low end and high end, both have their issues. Low end can lead to bad upper and lower issues, malfunctions, accuracy, and reliability. High end, can lead to proprietary parts, which can be a pain in the rear, if you decide to change something out (Daniel Defense and Larue). You guys definitely brought up some excellent products, awesome podcast, keep up the great work.
Very valid points. Thanks for watching!
I'm a Noveske guy, I run their gen4 5.56 for most of my predator hunting. Awesome company and great quality stuff.
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@@tphpodcast I love the podcast, you guys have taught me alot. Even the hog hunting info, even though I dont have any hogs in my part of northern California. Keep up the good work, I appreciate what your doing.
Thanks for watching! Any topics you’d like us to cover we haven’t yet?
@@txpredatorhunting night hunting with lights would be helpful, just because we cant run thermal in California. We are limited to 9v handheld lights(no weapon mounted lights).
Enjoy the podcast and clicked on this one to hear the thoughts on the ar15 for predator hunting and got bored listening to the 308 discussion which was way too long
For a quick replacement detent pin, take a drill bit that measures same as the detent, cut off with Dremel cutoff wheel or angle grinder cutoff wheel same approx length , then chuck in cordless drill, run drill slowly while sanding/grinding a 45degree chamfer with Dremel sanding drum or stone....there ya go, hardened detent pin in about 5 minutes. You can also drill and tap the ends of some of your detent spring holes about 3/16 deep, add short 6-32 sets crew, to capture your detent spring, no more holding with thumb and shooting your eyeball out when your thumb slips.....you can convert the bolt release pin to accept newer enhanced style screw and pin combo and eliminate need to drive pin in, you just screw in now instead of driving this PIA pin in...chucking a long setscrew in drill, and grinding with angle grinder, making you own as opposed to buying is possible too. Great show guys, would like to hear your take on a 20 Practical in an AR, I love mine, an almost 204 ruger that cycles thru an AR, and just smash your own cheap 223 brass using a redding bushing die with correct sized 20 cal bushing in the 223 die......3700 fps with 20 cal 40 grain max, easy as pie and super easy nickle/dime brass as long as your not too much of a brass snob
That PawPaw laugh never gets old! 😂
I put most of my money into a few components that I think are worth it. I start with the barrel and optic/ mount since they consume the majority of my budget. Then i will usually get a triggertech trigger and a solid handguard. Great podcast
Solid move. Thanks for watching.
Nice ! Your asking what would be interesting to make shows about, I would like. To hear about your bolt builds, the pros and cons of a prs bolt action yote setup vs a carbine.
Great topic, definitely on the list. Thanks for watching!
@@txpredatorhuntingwhat’s your recommendation for west Texas wide open spaces
I always hear alot about the 6 arc from you guys, but how about that new 6 max that is supposed to hit around November that son's of liberty gun works has their hands in?
I don't tinker and im cheap when it comes to AR. I dont run them hard. Alex pro firearms(556/223) $400,Radical firearms(556/223) $400,Bearcreek Arsenal (223wylde)$376. I did replace triggers in all 3. 2 psa and 1 cmc flat trigger. I like all 3 rifles
When I heard dry fire off a ladder the first thing that came to mind was ladder testing a load which made it even better
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Never have had trouble with building AR15 platform thay have been great I've built about 30 that has been flawless. except for the AR10 arrow precision lower with a Bear Creek 243 upper that does not want to feed correctly. Especially with arrows 308 type platform the M5 the bolts do not want to stay locked back Or have misfeeding issues
Yep start with a good quality basic rifle then every part you replace, you’ll have a spare quality Milspec backup.
I do own a couple top tier Ar's, and have built one for hunting, but had to try a Savage Msr recon that I found on sale about 4 years ago... Wow....I do not think you can beat it for accuracy in any price range. 1:8 twist, 16" melonite treated barrel, mid length gas, Wylde chamber, 5R, bolt matched to the chamber and serialized. Groups are tight on everything i've ran through it so far... There are older youtube reviews, (mrgunsngear) showing the same... The factory trigger is decent but swapped it out for a geissele ssa-e, and replaced the buttstock, that's it... I do like my nicer rifles but also recognize the msr for what it's capable of doing, shooting lights out and making others wonder why they spent 2k or more on something else. LWRC ic-di is another one I would highly recommend for 556, they are built on a different level than other brands in it's price range of under 2k.. I have hunted coyotes since the tape recorder days, and will have to say this has gotten to be wayyyy over complicated to many, use the wind to your favor, don't over call an area, get permission on plenty of land if you don't own enough yourself, and if you are making most of your shots at 3-400 yrds you're f'ing up. A lot of times one of us is on a shotgun. great video!
Just built my 6arc. My brass factory brass is stretching like 0.010 in length on first fire. Not sure if my chamber has too much head space?but seems like a lot of strech to me
Yes it’s pretty common. It’s my understanding gas guns generally have more headspace than bolt gun counter parts on account it being a dirty operation and all.
Preforms better in shorter barrels??
With all the talk about high end vs low cost AR mfgs what are the differences between a high end BCG and a milspec BCG? I get that some have different coatings but beyond that what is the difference?
How do you guys feel about the six point eight s p c. I have a stag arms terminator. In that chambering
Funny you mentioned cleaning after I just watched hornadys new pod on cleaning your guns 😂
I got a 6ARC, and the AGM varmint 3x24 is on the way! Hogs and dogs, baby! I'm running 16" 1/7.5. If you have any recommendations for loads, I'd be happy to take your advice. I'm up north.
We will dive into 6mm arc next week.
Oh my God you're killing me if you can Dodge a wrench. That is my kids favorite movie dodgeball lol
Great movie!
So buy a matched set of recievers from whoever good barrel JP adjustable buffer good trigger focus on light weight, especially on the forend. pinned gas block
Let's not forget LaRue Tactical
Mark Larue is great people, and has some great accurate options! Personally haven't had much time behind their rifles in years, but still a fantastic option for people.
Let's not forget, they're a great state of Texas company! God bless them and that company! Great guns, triggers, and suppressors.
Also, if you're not shooting suppressed, try it, you'll never want to shoot without one again! 😉
@@michaelcerrone1482the mbt 2 stage is my favorite
They're doing a lot of competitions up here in Maine with 22. L. R.. And im Talking to 300 yards
What about Wilson combat?
My rig i'm running a mark twelve. This is Maine I'm talking about. I run my thermal scope mounted to the top of my night vision scope. My reason is for identification and clarity. Just because something's glowing at four hundred yards. That does not mean it's okay to shoot. Where night vision is way more crisp and clear. And you can say yes that is a coyote or a bobcat. It's not a little fawn..
The 6.8 only worth a footnote?
Why dont you like large frames?
Good video. Not a fan of .308 myself either
22/250 AI bolt gun/88 eldm has some good long range performance
People spend so much on handgaurds. Imo magpuls m16style hanfgauds are still great. Maybe they are not free floated but they do not change your accuracy imo
Need a sound clip of Wade saying “it’s just like data, shit in shit out”
Depends on what you use the 308 for. 308 is a superior cartridge for big game under 500-600 yards than a 6.5cm. Long range punching paper…. I’ll take a 6.5 prc, 6.5 cm, 6 arc etc. not a question.
I've heard you talk about your chairs quite a bit. Is as well as the lights. Why isn't there a telescoping r Light against the back of the chair. The only way to get those critter's eyes is to match up the light at a level. It would be perfect. By running, i'm not adjustable telescoping light system mounted to the back of the chair above your head.. You're welcome for the idea. Waiting for my chair with the telescoping light Mounted to the back side. in the mail ...❤
Oops kit & pillow case? I have twin 8yo boys, it works too.
Damn is this the 308 podcast 🙃
I can't find the 16 inch 6 arc from type a was that a special order? Also did you go di or piston ? Thanks
Di, it was special order.
@@txpredatorhunting cool thanks. Going special order I know 18 is going to yield more fps but 16 for weight is that why you went 16. Kind of debating the same idea want to pick your mind a little thanks.
I have A 223-556 Mark 12 That is super sweet shooting out to 500 yd grouping up the size of a canal lope . But also have a ruger precision 338 LAPUA That is super beautiful to shoot as well and the recoil is not that bad at all. If I had 500 g to shoot at the range I would probably shoot at least 250 Of it if it wasn't so d*** expensive . But I feel like I can do better with my mark 12 then I can with my 308 savage Tactical FP. And technically they're all considered a type of sniper rifle or precision. I say shoot what makes you feel good Push your own limit get familiar with something that will make you a better shooter
Can’t disagree with that. Thanks for watching.
I fuck with this podcast you guys seem legit
110 vmax with h322 in a 308 I have killed 91 woodchucks with it in an ar 10
Y’all boys got tuning fucked up. Start at the source… the gas block and try to make it run with carbine springs and buffers. Then take it from there if you have to. With bigger calibers it might be a different story. However I have I have tried several of the quality gas blocks and the SLR Sentry is head and shoulders above them all. The superlative had shockingly fast erosion on the metering screw for me.
Also if your gonna have your buddy talk for more than half the time, might as well put the camera on both of ya 👀
He’s shy … lol Thanks for watching. I’ve sorta forced him into talking more . Slow part of season for guests, due to busy hunting and holiday schedules. But baby steps we will get him on camera. Thanks for watching.
shooting a 22lr at 500 is like shooting a 308 at a mile change my mind 😉. as far as prs it has made me a better shooter in hunting situations. and I bet that bean bag was bright orange that dude has flew that bag across the country 😂
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Lol on the whole 308 thing. I smacked the c*** out of coyotes at 250 to 350 yd I here in Maine With a 60 grain vmax 223 Mark 12 . I see no reason for 308 just because I'm angry at akayo doesn't mean I'm gonna go and grab my 338 labua so I can vaporize it or does it lol. I guess it depends on how many times he got away
You folks ever shot at 17HMR To me that thing is a straight tack driver out to a 100. If I can take a 5 round mag aninput all of the bullets almost in one hole. that's precision At least here in Maine it is Plus it's fun as h***. Green Mountain 223 wild makes a h*** of a barrel
Years ago I carried one for a whole season. Works yes, not my favorite. Now, some of the center fire 17 cals, are lots of fun.
Suppressors, if they are retarding gas at all, increase recoil, that’s part of physics, like suppressor ‘boost’. The specifics of caliber weight will tell you if it’s meaningful. I would state the benefits far out way the negligible increase in recoil. But you can’t ignore the laws of physics. If you doubt it, shoot something big like a 50 with and without a suppressor. You’ll notice the difference.
I didn’t realize There was difference till then 😂 without the suppressor the Barrett m107a1 is surprisingly tame with the suppressor it’s got a pretty good kick
Logical fallacies abound. There is zero increase to recoil. That gas was going out the end of the barrel the same direction regardless. The trapped gasses in fact increase the time of the recoil, reducing the perceived recoil. What you are comparing a suppressor to is to a muzzle break with baffles that redirect those gasses rearward, which a suppressor cannot match. So, you are correct that the suppressed Barrett had more recoil than the muzzle breaked option, but would still provide a reduction compared to a bare muzzle.
@@tylerrauker689 nope. Not what im comparing it to. My suggestion stands. Try it on a 50. Whatever hairs your parsing with 'percieved', try it and see.
I had a similar experience with an 18" Daniel Defense barrel that shot like garbage. The cheap $110 barrel from Midway that eventually replaced it shoots way better.
Try shooting an AR left hand
Every time I shoot 😅
Sorry, but the 223 with fmj was designed to wound. If you shoot fmj in your handgun, don't expect to kill anyone! Fmj is for targets or head shots.
Its used to penetrate body armor these days. But I see what you’re saying.
@jasonsilva8183 In self defense, True. I've recently been told to stack every other because shelving in a smash and grab causes the nonmetallic to disintegrate, and hp's can come apart or flatten, causing little to no penetration! My initial statement was in regards to hunting.
No one on here has to spend 2000 dollars on a rifle. Almost every manufacturer you will get MOA. Go to palmetto or build ur own. U can build the same exact rifle as most manufacturers for cheaper. Ive done the math. They build these rifles with same parts u can buy for cheaper and then tack on another 500 bucks. Its ridiculous. Be smart and do ur due diligence
308 has been around a long long time. Knock it if your pansy shoulder dont like a little bump.
I know y’all said you’re talking to the masses but the masses are not your target audience. The recoil argument is ridiculous. Anyone watching your show is a shooter. Start lifting weights and quit being weak is the answer. Seems like you’re coming up with non issues for the sake of content creation.
There’s a stark different between being able to “handle recoil” and being able to effectively “manage recoil”. This is more true when it comes to shooting from various positions where your overall stability is compromised, as it often is in hunting scenarios. Managing recoil is much more about proper shooting fundamentals than it is just raw strength.
@@tphpodcast That certainly makes sense. Great clarification. Thanks.