LPVO's on Bolt Guns | TPH65
2023 ж. 4 Шіл.
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In this episode, we dive into the world of bolt action rifles and explore the benefits of using LPVO (Low Power Variable Optics) with our special guest, Wade Chandler. Join us as we discuss the versatility, quick target acquisition, and lightweight design of LPVO optics, and how they can enhance your hunting experience. Whether you're a seasoned hunter or new to the sport, this episode will provide valuable insights on utilizing LPVO on bolt action rifles. Tune in for an informative and engaging conversation!
Wade vs Chat GPT: Who did it better?
Clearly Wade!
Chat gpt would have saved me an hour. But then we would never hear the side quests lol
I don’t believe GPT. Can’t trust a British accent that doesn’t use whilst or lovely every other sentence! Haha
Wade’s digression sessions are the best!
Still running the good ole swfa 10x on my 20" 308
You’re 100% correct about Swarovski glass… even their Z3 models, the “lower end” ones are fuckin’ fantastical.
I'm sold on the concept. Most of my hunting is in the thick woods of easern Canada, and 1-6X is generally plenty of magnification. So far my favourite is the Athlon Midas BTR Gen 1 ATSR1. SFP, a simple reticle with an illum dot and light weight are my main criteria. Unfortunatly the Athlon is discontinued, and there aren't too many offerings with all of those criteria. I'd love to hear what others are using.
I bought a monstrum lpvo out of curiosity and budget and I like it. Use it on my muzzleloader 1-6 . They just came out with new reticles I'm considering a 1-8 on my 6.5 Grendel bolt gun. They work for what I do
Nice video...I was part of the 3-9; 4.5-14 crowd for a long time until I got my IWI SBR7...put a swampfox 1x6 lpvo and harvested my deer last season...I was immediately sold on the concept....with my 60 year old eyes, i may get jeered at elk camp but im putting a lpvo on my sauer 300 win mag. Have a blessed day.
Monstrums Spectre 1-10x28 SFP LPVO looks pretty amazing for the price with a 34mm tube and their new MOA-X1 reticle. I am looking at mounting it on EGW low .990" rings on my 20" varmint barrel Savage Axis II.
I own a 2-10 and love it. Has parallax adjustment, turrets that are easy to dial, and a zero stop. It’s small and compact. Best of many worlds.
I heard you mention TruGlo. I actually own a the TruGlo TruBright 1-6. I’ve had it for at least 5 years. It’s lived it’s life on a 10.5 .300BO. I personally haven’t had any issues with it. It’s held zero very well. It’s served it’s purpose very well. Purpose being hunting and punching holes in paper. My only gripe with it is that it or the supplied mount is a chunky girl! I had purchased a second one that was illuminated. Just had mildot reticle in it. I had it in .450BM AR and it didn’t even make it through sight it and it stopped tracking. As of the comment, 3/7/24, I ordered the 3-9 version of this optic to try on 350 Legend. Simply because it is very compact. Well will see how it does soon.
My journey in the shooting/hunting world (40 years +-) always return to low power variable
LPVO on 16” barrel (or less) rifles is king 👑
Even 20" bush guns.
love the podcast, specs on the sweet rifle w/ EOTech. Its called the "Donut of Death"
I run them on bolts. Love em
That rifle with the Eotech and Proof barrel. Does the throw lever clear the bolt when its in the rightmost position? Asking because I've run into clearence issues on both my bolt guns when trying to run throw levers.
I have a good handful of ranch truck guns with 1-6 through 1-10 and they’ve been pretty usable with the correct height mount for the specific stock of the rifle they’re used on. I only really do it because because I own them and had upgraded the AR LPVO they use to be on, not because they’re the best optics for the job. The money is at 2x base with 36-42mm objectives for handy ranch guns. I am Really appreciating my 2-12 42mm athlon experiment.
ive been debating between the 2 for some time and settled on the 2-12 also and it has been awesome.
My wife just bought me an Athlon Helios 2x12 and it seems like it is going to be extremely versatile for the distances I likely will be hunting.
In short, much like the comparison of modern vs. legacy cartridges, modern optics dominate over paw paw's Redfield 3-9x40 scope. A LPVO is a more practical scope, with a wider application field. Let's face it, just as Fitzy said, most guys using a legacy optic, aren't hunting past 100yds, and would never dare take a shot over 200yds. As far as what would I use LVPO vs. MPVO, that truly depends on the hunting conditions I'm going to. If I'm in Deep East TX, LVPO all day. South or West TX, MVPO would be preferred, depending on how much brush and mesquite trees are on the land. Study the area you're hunting, and bring set ups for both, in case you can't go to the site before the hunt.
The 1-6x Viper on my 18” 6ARC has slain many hogs
Would you still keep the lvpo in a 1 inch tube vs. 3-9x40 for night hunting with a red light?
For deer, bear, and elk I do not shoot over 300 yards. So a fixed 4 or 6x works because it is a big target. Smaller targets squirrels , and paper higher power is needed 10x and up to 20x after that mirage comes into play.
“With a .75 can I see into the past?” Yes, yes you can.
Dam I’m still waiting for a lpvo scout scope. For my Lee Enfield scouts . Can’t have semi’s where I live & stripper fed Enfields as about as good as it gets .
Beyond 8x i want parallax adjustment. 1-8x i really like for 400 and in. Beyond 400 i prefer 2-10/2-12x with parallax adjustment. Beyond 700 i will take the bulk and weight of 3-18/4-20x. My eyes aren't what they used to be. Just preference mostly. I recommend lightest weight optic that fits your needs and doesn't put you in the poor house
ive build out a 7.62x39 suppressed bolt gun, with it being shot pretty much 400 and in, would you say keep the nova 1-6 I have, or step up to a Vudu 1-8?
I have a cheap 1x6 on my bolt 300blk and it is certainly not great but has bdc and works great with 190 sub x
I just got my American ranch in 300 blk and I’m loving my strike eagle 1-6 on it. Got the optics planet Opmod edition it’s a nice contrasting but similar tan to go with the gen 1 ranch color
All this stuff that is dead to you send it my way. My husband would bring it back to life.
What sight in ranges are you using for a LPVO?
Any optic that is variable and has a lower side below the traditional 3-9 power scope. This includes the 2-12 and 2-10 scopes that are popular for African hunts. With a 30mm tube the maximum objective to pass light is 44mm. This is where the Simmons 44mag scopes came in. They did research on what was the largest tube at the time (30mm) and how a larger bell affected it. Some objective bells were huge in the 80s, I remember a 56mm and a 60mm which was huge. They found that 44mm was the maximum without going to a bigger tube 35mm at time and if you did, the max was 48mm. They said at 35mm tube sizes, the human eye couldn't gather any more light from it. So 48mm is the upper limit for objective. It's why you don't see more than a 50 anymore.
Are lpvos brighter, less bright or about the same compared to say a 3-9-50?
It depends , largely on what optics and price points we are comparing.
It's all based on glass quality and objective lense size. The bigger to objective tube is the more light gets let in. Lpvos basically have no real separate objective tube and its more a continuation of the tube diameter so in theory its less bright. That being said in reality a traditional scope may get only 2-3 more minutes of shooting light.
How does the 6ARC and 87vmax do on bigger hogs also?
It works .
I would love to have a 1/10 lpvo on my 338/06
Yes!!! This is great! I have ,like you said, switched all my hunting guns over to Lpvo’s. Leopoldo and Athlon. They are absolutely amazing. I deer hunt in ohio where it’s straight wall only. 350 legend and 45/70 where I could shoot 20 yards or 250. I actually have a bar 30-06 I’m looking to put a Lpvo on! I have an Athlon Midas Tac 6-24x56. Shooting 1200yards i prefer about x16-x20. I honestly don’t think I have just cranked to x24 lol great podcast! I am subscribing 👍🏼👍🏼
I’m thinking about getting a cheap 1-6 for my ruger .308. Don’t know if it would look goofy to put an LPVO on a 22 inch barrel bolt action, but I figured it would be a good hog gun.. or deer even. I don’t think I would be shooting past 100 yards anyways.
Thoughts on using an LPVO on a mule deer hunt?
A 1-10x28 is good for 400 yards so yeah, it can be done as long as a guy can shoot.
I know a for Hunter, who likes high magnification. Just in case he hast to thread a needle through some brush.
I’ve got a leupold 2.5-8x36, I guess it’s classified as a MPVO, and unless I’m shooting at a dot on paper, it’s hardly ever on 8x. 5-6 is the sweet spot.
Wade, how does the 110 vmax in 308 do on bigger hogs?
It’ll work, is it my favorite no.
I have plenty of necropsy pics showing they fill the bill. Lots of silver dollar entrances in the near side ribs after punching 1”+ shields at Impact velocities from 2600-3000. Absolutely devastating on my preferred neck target.
My elk rifle I’m running the tract 4-25 and that’s for shots 50-800 yards
Wade, a bit touchy on the one piece mounts eh? Maybe not the best dinner party topic?
No no, huge fan. Very particular set up I can’t stand. It’ll come up soon.
Break it down another way to one to a power is a nice C cup on a girl yeah all you need but I am passing down some big old fake double D 4-12x
1-8x sig msr any good?
I have a couple, I’ve been very happy with them.
Lpvos are really the only thing that makes sense on a gun like a sig cross. At least to me. Larger optics look goofy on 16 inch guns and aren't practical for size and weight reasons. I have a 1-10 on my cross. It's light with a low profile.
What scope and rings do you have on yours? EDIT; thinking about getting one of those “tanadized” NF F1’s in a set of low OR medium rings on mine.
I already had a vortex viper 4-16x50 laying around so I put that on my cross this past Christmas. I do agree that size scope looks goofy and tbh 16x is way more than I’ll ever need for a 16” 308 especially since it’s my new main hunting rifle. But I don’t agree with lpvo on it, I have a strike eagle on my American ranch 300blk and that’s perfect. Right now I’m looking for an “mpvo” type scope for the cross. Eotech just announced the vudu x today one model is a 2-12x40 so I’m seriously considering that
Must be able to use as a red dot without disturbing a close up shot picture, so yeah, 1 power should be true 1 power and 1.5’s would be ok - with an asteric.
Ok, I’m going to correct myself. My first LPVO was a 1-4 on a 300 blk bolt action. This worked well for the range of the gun and allowed my tired eyes to identify and engage a target at 200 yards. The red dot effect worked great at close range. Then I started looking at different optics for my longer range rifles, and ended up putting Nightforce NX8 1-6 and 2.5 to 20’s on my 5.56 AR’s and 6.5 Creedmore/308’s respectively. They are small and fast with the throw lever and have appropriate magnification for their range abilities. Does the 2.5 - 20 count as a LPVO? If you use it as one, I guess so.
1x8 on my coyote calling sbr
It drives me nuts all these brand names talk about how incredibly clear their glass is but have these stupid target reticles that almost totally destroys the sight picture. I get they have their place, mostly in long range bench shooting but for the guys hunting 0-100, give us crosshairs.
Before I watch, I’m just going to say “why not?” If you like it on your gun, who cares…you do you boo-boo. EDIT: Now that I watched the video, LPVO on a light short range bolt action…sure, no reason not to.