“We Need To Stop Listening To These People” - Douglas Murray (4K)
Douglas Murray is a journalist, author and associate editor of The Spectator.
As the turmoil of global events dominates the media, it can feel as though the world is spiralling into chaos. If we can't agree on what's happening, how can we make sense of the world? What's the solution in a post-truth world?
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00:00 Have Douglas’s Predictions Come True?
01:55 Victoria’s Secret Revert Back to Sexy
07:01 Society’s View of Having Children
12:03 Why Can’t We Agree on Truth?
17:24 Did New Atheism Actually Work?
24:31 How Celebrities Use Causes to Look Good
27:18 Why Women Support Body Positivity
30:13 The Negative Impacts of Low Self-Esteem
35:52 Who Actually Was George Orwell?
40:14 How K-Pop Is Causing Female Mental Health Issues
46:38 How Successful Will Gays For Gaza Be?
55:01 Is Douglas a Conspiracy Theorist?
1:03:10 The West’s Move Beyond Peak-Woke
1:12:40 People Who Have the Same Opinions on Everything
1:25:25 Humans Are Supposed to Be Resilient
1:37:23 HSBC’s Reimagined ‘Fairer’ Tales
1:45:33 Creating a Positive Vision For the Future
1:59:56 What’s Next For Douglas
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Hello you legends. Get a 20% discount on your first order from Maui Nui Venison by going to www.mauinuivenison.com/modernwisdom (use code MODERNWISDOM) Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Have Douglas’s Predictions Come True? 01:55 Victoria’s Secret Revert Back to Sexy 07:01 Society’s View of Having Children 12:03 Why Can’t We Agree on Truth? 17:24 Did New Atheism Actually Work? 24:31 How Celebrities Use Causes to Look Good 27:18 Why Women Support Body Positivity 30:13 The Negative Impacts of Low Self-Esteem 35:52 Who Actually Was George Orwell? 40:14 How K-Pop Is Causing Female Mental Health Issues 46:38 How Successful Will Gays For Gaza Be? 55:01 Is Douglas a Conspiracy Theorist? 1:03:10 The West’s Move Beyond Peak-Woke 1:12:40 People Who Have the Same Opinions on Everything 1:25:25 Humans Are Supposed to Be Resilient 1:37:23 HSBC’s Reimagined ‘Fairer’ Tales 1:45:33 Creating a Positive Vision For the Future 1:59:56 What’s Next For Douglas
27:10 - Don't worry mate I've no idea what on earth he meant either, we really needed the first half of that sentence Doug 😂
There’s an irrational obsession in my mind with why, in your master shot, the right-hand picture in the centre column is around 1cm (at a guess) lower than the left picture. But Chris… why would you do this? Why, Chris? Why?! Answers on a postcard to…
It is more of a verb. Look around!!!!
Chris - you've said in previous podcasts that you're totally onboard with the moral imperative to eliminate animals from your diet (even if you don't do it yourself). So why promote a venison brand?
You
I’m a woman who has had a battle with my weight for my entire life. Through honesty, consistency and hard work, for the most part, I’ve been successful. With that said, the ABSOLUTE last thing I need, desire or want is to see overweight models. Give me something to strive towards, not another excuse. Trust me, I can come up with enough of those on my own.
Your mind is very good
I just wish the good designs came in larger sizes!
Metabolical, the book may be of interest to you.
Well said. Same here, same problem, same hard won weight control. 👍
I feel exactly the same way!
Douglas is my favourite political commentator. Sharpest wit and never misses the mark.
Never listen to someone and assume they're never wrong. You'll end up like all the religious freaks.
@@christiantaylor9309 I agree.
well, he’s definitely wrong when it comes to the Palestine/Israel issue so…
100%!!
@@christiantaylor9309careful, they’ll put you on their hit list
Thanks guys, as an old woman nearing the end of my 9th decade, your conversations are so refreshing.
I smiled when I read this comment - your mind is clearly still open and hungry for nourishment. In that sense, you are very much alive, and younger than your years. I'm 63, and intend never to stop listening, reading and learning. 👍
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Glad to read this, I hope you know that there are many millions of us that look up to you and your generation
@sisiphas I agree with your assessment of this conversation, but I can think of an even better one: if they got together again to talk and had you as a guest. With all you've undoubtedly seen, your experience and insights would surely enrich the discussion. I'd love to hear that.
I‘m a woman with no fighting experience and when I was 18 I was mugged by 2 guys. I fought for my stuff as long as I could even though they crept up on me from behind and threw me to the ground straight away. I fought for about 6 Minutes (hard to tell) before they had overwhelmed me by choking me and took my stuff. They broke my nose, left me with lifelong bitemarks and a black eye. Now at 40 I am still proud they took that long.
Hmm just be glad you survived, many do not.
Wow! You are a warrior. Be proud that you fought so hard to defend yourself against such vile aggressive cowards. Love and respect ❤🙏🏻
The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker Safe People by Henry Cloud
My father made a great comment to me one day, years ago about the great depression in 1929. He said "we didn't know there was a great depression. we were always poor."
That’s kind of like today. I couldn’t afford anything anyway.
@@danfontaine8179 I truly believe younger people today think it's worse, because at your fingertips you can see all the things you wish you had. Back then (shoot, the 90s), we never had this issue. You feel like you can get away with less if you're not aware of what comprises the "more."
@@PeteNice29 younger people think today is worse than the Great Depression? I don’t think many would have any idea what they’re talking about lol
@@PeteNice29yep! back in 1929 you had a factory owner or a lord that owned a car and spent the winter in the south of France .... and you had a 16hour work day (or close to it) - but so did everyone you knew! And you certainly didn't have millionaires on the screen all the time whose only talent was to kick a football or not being able to spell their own name.
@@PeteNice29 It is far worse today...nobody understands how bad it is today. Purchase power in the past existed, today purchase power is gone.
"Surround yourself with courageous people or at least not cowards!" This is truely wise information.
A very nice slogan for a comic book hero. Back in the real world, the Japanese were very courageous in WW2. Remind me how that ended.
The Japanese were brutal in WW2 using people as weapons and they stupidly attacked the biggest economy in the world.
@@TheLucanicLordSo go and hangout with cowards, double standard people and hypocrites. That sentence was said in certain context. So try to understand concept of context.
@@TheLucanicLord Being courageous is not the same as to be programmed by your society to behave fearlessly and ruthlessly. Courage comes from within.
@@ArinaThomsen "fearlessly and ruthlessly" The two attributes you are conflating seldom go together, and at any rate are definitely independent. Your reply is not an argument.
Douglas is so un-boring that I had to listen to this conversation twice! Thank you for expanding my intellectual capacity today! ✨
He's so charming too. Would love to have dinner with him and pick his brains about various subjects all evening haha
@@baldrickization Try him on 9/11, vacinnes and climate change. He'll tell you of crazy conspiracy theories. Never judge a book by it's cover.
@@markrymanowski719 I'm not familiar with these, could you give me a summary of them please 🙏
Bull's-eye!! I love listening to Jordan Peterson, in thrall of his intellect, hanging onto his every word, nearly breathless... and Douglas is just as much scary-smart, but he is also entertaining as hell! The cadence of his speech, the wickedly sly humor, the phrasing (it's like listening to Wayne Shorter on sax), the eloquence of his eyes and facial expressions - virtuoso performance! Imagine sitting down for a chat with him on the terrace of a seaside villa, under a striped jumbo umbrella, the azure Mediterranean, glass-smooth, stretching down below toward the hazy horizon under the afternoon sun... Sadly, too many conservative sages of comparable caliber are just droning scolds...
@@markrymanowski719 Oh so 911 WAS an inside job? 6ft distancing did something?. Masks helped? The hospitalization rate was over 30% . decorated Harvard educated doctors were not being silenced on twitter?
What an absolute pleasure it is to hear Douglas speak.
and deny the sheer magnitude of Israel's war crimes against civilians.
@@davidanalyst671HAMAS lies.
@@strombouts Both sides lie in war, and they've bother been at it for generations.
@@strombouts Maybe. So is 15 000 dead civilians okay?
He just look and sound to much like Simon Cowell, I can't
I’m seeing Douglas everywhere these last couple of weeks. Common sense like his is probably in high demand.
@@johnneil14 He's a philosophical commentator not a politician.
Common sense is not a part of Murrays schtic. He is an elitist. One of the rich men spurring on the lower classes to do battle with each other, while he gets more wealthy....
One the only handful of sane, reasonable intellectuals today, who have the balls to call a spade a spade
Yep he’s in high demand because of his forthright if repetitive views on the Israeli/Hamas conflict.
@@22448824 Indeed. The Hamas event in Israel also signifies the essence of everything else that he’s warned about in his books, The War on the West, The Strange Death of Europe and The Madness of Crowds. The Hamas attack and the subsequent support for Palestine in the woke west is a shocking sign that everything he wrote about about is now in our face
In a world of lunatics it is so nice to sit down to a sane conversation. Thankyou gentlemen.
Apart from when two rich, hardworking guys made fun of working hard to make money. That bit was weird
@@EP3mentalistIf you are talking about the Mexican fisherman. I suggest you listen again, I think you misunderstood it.
@@EP3mentalist👈mentalist 🤣
@@katofuntato466 How very mature of you. You'd fit right in with Murray.
@@mobsiesixsixsix9785 Not to worry, your complaint has been seen and will automatically be forwarded to the manager. Thanks for your input Karen
I saw homes go from 250k to 450k in like 10 years, I watched cars go from 25k to 40k. I'd say its way harder to afford anything atm, not a little harder.
Such an uplifting conversation. Uplifting in the sense that it proves that sanity and common sense still exist.❤
Totally agree! I felt 'renewed' and optimistic after finishing this conversation. The other bonus is that I laughed really hard often too.
'Steady on the donuts' The casual delivery of that line... caught me completely off-guard and had me laughing out loud. Forget sometimes that not only is Douglas Murray a very intelligent man with powerful insights about the big stories of our time, he can also be very, very funny...
I enjoyed that comment as well haha
i laughed out loud several times for this convo. these two play off one another very well. could have them on in my background…soundtrack of my life…forever! ❤
Snobs with Gobs?
I laughed out loud several times during this podcast including that comment. I thoroughly love douglas murray.
He’s bloody brilliant. I have a giant crush on him.
An observation from a chronically uncourageous man: My mother would never hesitate to deploy shame as a way to control her son, and it left me afraid to embrace and integrate my masculinity. My father, though present, was never strong enough to offset the effect of her neuroses, and like a puppy learning to bite, I struggled to find the sweet spot between slobbering and drawing blood. It’s maybe 40 years too late, but men like Chris, Douglas, Jordan and Jocko are helping to show me the way, and I can’t begin to express my gratitude for their wisdom.
This is deep. Good on you for recognising and growing. Look after yourself.
You are not alone mate
We need strong men. "Toxic masculinity" is a ridiculous term that is slandered around much like everything else that is labelled racist including math. Be proud to be a man 😊 and keep growing.. we all learn and grow and have much to "unlearn" ...society needs strong/masculine men and nurturing supportive women to thrive....keep going @misteroz
keep working on it. you can remake yourself. you do have the ability to be the MAN you desire to be. reading your list of men you are listening to / watching is a fantastic group for your aspirations. shoot for the stars buddy…you can do it!
@@mb8219 Toxic masculinity is very much a think. The problem is how you interpret it. Saying to a man he shouldn't cry when he was hurt physically or emotionally is toxic masculinity. However calling a man that was nice enough to open a door for a woman "toxic masculinity" is wrong and cheapens the definition
Doug Murray, man, what a walking logical thinking and debating machine! Douglas Murray for Prime Minister!
Photographic memory, Douglas? Thanks for keeping the sane grounded.
My only hope is that people will take Douglas Murray’s wise words to heart. We must act on them, and we must defend our civilization. The smart people must act in unison and March and shout out the truth for everyone to hear before the truth is completely outlawed and its utterance punishable by death.
I think combining Douglas' message with the message from Katharine Birbalsingh at the ARC conference is the best path forward for the human race.
People like Murray from the PMC class are part of the problem. My worry is that the mismanagement will become so bad, people will turn to a kind of fascism (which is what I think Murray's benefactors are planning for).
@@johnneil14 There is no solution to human nature. You just gotta ride the waves and hope to make it out with your sanity intact.
@@johnneil14 I agree and came to the same conclusion not too long ago. Best solution now for young people in the UK is to emigrate to where their talents are more appreciated and valued.
The American led west is sinking. The east is rising. History is cyclical. Time spirals. Ebbs and flows. All Murray is doing is speeding up the wests descent into the chaotic abyss....
I'm feeling pretty good listening to this. I've protected people on public transportation by stepping in more times than I can count. I'm not the guy who sits idly by, I will defend. I'm not talking about physical violence, it's never been needed. All that was needed was someone willing to be violent (me) confronting the bully, or the creep, or the mentally ill person. I'm also a 6'2" 200 lb former college goalkeeper. My favorite opening lines: "HEY. If you want to bully someone, bully me," and "Get your fucking hands off her." I think the reason i jump in is because I was abused and bullied as a kid, and wanted someone to protect me. Much love from Spokane, Washington
Bullies get caught off guard when someone isn't afraid of them.
I may be small and weak, but I can flatten an entire busload of people with a flinch of one foot. Potential energy is power.
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We need more people like you
We women need more men like you and hope people are actually grateful when you do. Strength and Love to you 🙌
Douglas Murray is a national treasure.
If war crime apologists are your thing.
For the zionists
International*
Yes, surprised they haven't got one of him in madame tussaud's 😊
I also just turned 40, I needed this conversation - I'm at a turning point, and ready for my next adventure
Great years! Still in your prime!
Red pill this time?
I turn 40 in September. Oh dear
Listening to Douglas is like getting a brain massage 🧠💆♀️
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I believe the quote “There are no solutions only trade-offs” comes from Thomas Sowell. Another brilliant man.
Yeah, that's Thomas Sowell. Is he well enough to appear on this podcast? Chris, go to wherever Mr Sowell is and interview him
That's Sowell. I've found this quote applicable to so many situations other than economic.
@@jumhed994sadly, I don’t think he is at this point. He just turned 92 and he’s been slipping for awhile now. Personal hero of mine.
I believe that quote can be found in any first year engineering degree course, although it's one of Thomas Sowell's favourites.
Thomas Sowell is the Dog. Is it because he has such a great sense of humour?
I loved this chat so much I will replay it tomorrow. I need to wrap my own head around the madness of the times without allowing it to get totally under my skin - but I thank God for platforms like these with you and Douglas - and other times withJordan Peterson who fight for our rights simply by talking about it.
"There are no solutions. Only trade offs." - Thomas Sowell
Best line. 'Surround yourself with couragous people'. Absolutely true.
I love this!
It's something I'm going to tell my sons in the secret admission that I rarely did so myself through life.
@@jumblestiltskin1365 never too late my friend. Being courageous and taking friends along. I work in Haiti and I'm 72. ❤️
... it's worth noting though, that whilst this is an admirable thing to strive towards, it is far too easy to alloow oneself to be deluded into being surrounded by confident fools. Courage comes from many places, but the deluded and the religous rarely lack it's worst forms.
It was the best line of the interview, but it was fun to observe Douglas suffer through the slow pace of the progressives.
Everyone needs to hear more Douglas Murray these days.
I prefer Steven Bonnell
Why? He's a traitor to the people. Look at the body language. He knows he is guilty
@@rebeccajane3532 Copium.
@@rebeccajane3532A traitor to whom, exactly?
@@rebeccajane3532 Which people? LOL
Brilliant conversation between 2 well informed men.
How reassuring to hear a conversation that is informed and coherent. Thank you,
"Climate change is not a crisis" is informed? What a clown...
@veegee24 Oh you poor npc... 🤦♂️
I can’t get enough of Douglas, he is truly a gift to the thinking man. 🙏
And thinking woman! Been reading and listening to Douglas for a decade - he just nails it every time.
Yet he’s scared to actually debate these subjects he’s so passionate about. That’s very telling of his intelligence. His inability to see both sides also push one sided narratives while claiming to be a journalist also speaks volumes
It's 2023. Man no longer encapsulates women. Women no longer need to be hidden by men.
Watching people fawn over this over rated over hyped limited hangout midwit is just sickening. Gift to people who want to be told what to think without having to think. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The left are now such a joke scoring cheap obvious political points with them is child's play.
@@redsea6266 heard him just lately . i love his atitude how he speaks calmly on so burning subjects. i wish i could learn from that calm atitude
I used to be quite centrist with my politics, but in the last six or seven years, since Brexit I have began to really despise the left and its insidious relationship with the MSM. All the slurs about being far right, facist, Nazis, xenophobic and so on which are thrown about if you dare have a view outside of the liberal London elites narrative has become insufferable. So fed up with endless wokeism, the endless race baiting and Britain hating mobs that always get their own way. I see this country slipping away and its sad, but I think the biggest battle is against the Britain hating leftists who are determined to diminish this nation as some kind of morale repentance!
I agree 100%.
Also agree 100%
Totally agree. Lifelong Guardian reader and Lib Dem voter here, roughly until Brexit. Since then I've felt like you.
Thank you, Chris for giving another platform for Douglas to share himself with us. Thank you, Douglas for never backing down, for always standing up for what you believe, and giving hope to so many. I will probably never meet either of you, but if you see this message please know I am forever grateful for your words and work.
So am I.
Thank you guys for sharing a superb conversation with us ❤🎉❤
In a sane world we’d have someone like Douglas Murray as PM and characters like Sunak and Johnson on podcasts selling books. Everything is upside down.
Do you mean selling DM's books?
@@alexandradekanova771 I mean selling their own books. Johnson already done it w biographies and fiction, just wish he'd stuck to it full time tbh. Sunak should be writing books about how to sort out your credit score and finance a company car etc. It's about their right level, not running a country.
being witty doesn't equate being competent. Douglas is entertaining but all these podcast types are for the most part false idols imo.
I’d rather not have atheists ruling over me.
A wise observation - we are not alone?🤔@@dawnfmEnthusiast
Every conversation featuring Douglas Murray is a masterpiece.
A masterpiece? Really? Every single conversation? Wow
@@62CristoforoYeah, I'm going to walk that back a bit. These aren't at the level of The Socratic Dialogues, but they're approaching the level of an A.S. Byatt interview. 😅
But not quite as good as Pauline Kael interviews. 😅
I see Murray, I click.
@@62CristoforoYou’re so impactful. Wow
I highly suspect that 99% of the people who say listening to Joe Rogan is a red flag have never actually listened to his podcast, they've just heard a few sound bites or seen selected clips of some inflammatory comment or guest.
Truth is now an individual concept... This satisfies the unbelievable amount narcissism and greed seen in people today.. Unfortunately, when this type of social correction has happened before the only way off the path was tragedy on an even bigger scale represented by either war and/or incredible amounts of social injustice.
I knew this episode would be good, but I didn’t expect it to be so bloody funny! Thank both of you for being courageous enough to stand against the common narrative.
so sad, that nowadays we need to have courage just to speak our minds...
So much wisdom in such a young man. At 61yo as I despair over the state of the world, in walks Douglas.
Well said 👏🏻
Even a blind squirrel….
Douglas Murray is 44 years old. He's not exactly young.
@@Zen56103 That's definitely young, to me. Besides, everybody ages, not everybody grows up.
He reads a lot, much wisdom can be accrued from the writings of others. I think modern day folks think that reading actual books is something antiquated and a poor use of time... Murray is an excellent example of that not being true.
Outstanding conversation… first time I have seen Douglas chatting in a casual way. Delightful exchange! ❤
I want to thank you for allowing e to discover this podcast. It is such a blast to watch or to watch slowly when I have time during the day. Chris does a fantastic job at interviewing these people and leveling the energy of the interviewees without losing skepticism, I love it.
Murrays undeniably English wit is complimented by his depth of knowledge in general. 2 hours well spent and enjoyed. The world is on fire and these two put some sense to it for a short while with a fair amount of comedy intertwined, thank you.
It's really not. Two traditionally problematic regions are smoldering. Don't let social media blow things out of proportion.
@@PeteNice29it's to the point where, unfortunately many of Jewish descent across the Western world imagine they are the present victims, that everything happening now for several weeks is about them - call it the ADL mindset, where people selectively grab onto and 'personalize' all events and little signs in the world, blowing them up to portend catastrophe just for their group but without any sense of context or general likelihood of that in their comfortable safe prosperous little Western lives. No wonder the ethnic cleansing carries on, unopposed by the world. Humans can have unreasonable self-obsessed concern.
@@PeteNice29 I hope you're right...
capitalism requires infinite population growth and an eternal servant class. capitalism is evil because of those two facts.
No, the world is on fire. Douglas says in the podcast that this time is not like any other in history.
I'm quite aware that I'm brown what with being a quarter Jamaican, I managed 40 years without it ever being an issue in any area of my life ever! I have never looked at a Union Jack or the St Georges Cross with anything other than pride and belonging. I wasn't taught to hate but I also wasn't taught to be stupid. Why does this government now promote hate and stupidity to my children? I am sorry that my children will never know the country I grew up in.
As a middle aged white women, this comment brings me joy. I hope to goodness there are many people like you in the Uk. I wish this for all.
Outstanding conversation!
I don’t remember how we got off on this topic, but when I was a teenager my dad told me, ‘When you’re 20 you have the face that God gave you, and when you’re 40 you have the face you deserve.”
Somebody make this Man Prime Minister in the UK - immediately!🙏💜🇬🇧💜🌏💜
I love listening to Douglas Murray. Eloquent, intelligent, and Knowledgeable about the subjects he engages in.
Yet he’s scared to actually back up his knowledge by chickening out of debates. Dude is a propaganda pusher, nothing more.
capitalism requires infinite population growth and an eternal servant class. capitalism is evil because of those two facts.
@@zeuseygastony6385What is the propaganda he is pushing?
@@zeuseygastony6385 Dunno where you get that. I've seen him in debate. He generally mops the floor with his opponents.
@@zeuseygastony6385I'm just wondering why you think that your opinion as to whether he should automatically enter debates just because you think he should, is valid? People are sometimes invited to partake in debates, discussions, or events. Acceptance of invitations is not mandatory. One chooses to take part or not. For example, have you attended every wedding, birthday party, or other event, to which you were invited?
My favourite recent morsel of news from the land of American entertainment is hearing about how actress Cynthia Nixon is going on a 'hunger strike' as a way to draw attention to her demand for a ceasefire between Gaza and Israel. The best detail of all is how this epic fast of great geopolitical consequence is only going to be for-- quote-- "two or three days". Sensational. The self-regard these luvvies have for themselves is really astonishing to behold. I love it.
Thank you! I loved that fine detail and it's renewed my contempt for celebrities and restored my confidence in my own convictions. Again, thank you and keep well.
@@grahamgriffiths4285 I wrote you a fun reply but it got deleted. Welcome to my life 2024. Self-censoring terribly in physical reality and muzzled when roaming the digital terrain also... *sighs*
@@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293 I know. I can relate to that 2024 element of your life. I found myself trapped in the same predicament and consequently felt much more maligned. Although there is a silver lining here, which I think we need to remind ourselves of... we're being maligned by idiots. We should almost thank them! I think you need to remind yourself that you have the faculties of reason and logic and that you're probably genuinely caring towards your fellow man - and you'll feel more self-assured about your opinions. I think the muzzle will disappear and reveal a contented smile. I hope! :)
@@grahamgriffiths4285 What a charming man and what a fantastic reply to have come home to read after a tough day at work, wow! Thank you Graham. I sincerely hope my cheerful, grateful response to you successfully posts this time. Have a super week!! 🤝🍻☺
I love how honest these guys are with each other. Just like a couple of lads in the pub.
Say what you will about Douglas, but no one delivers the words 'Oh F*ck off!' quite as well as he does. 😂
That's Eton for you ... worth every penny!
hahaha on point
"...but you can stop somewhere before morbidly obese." 😂 This man is a gem!
My goodness: hearing this line “I could hear my better self clearing his throat in the room next door” brought about tears and an overwhelmingly sense of recognition. What a powerful insight your friend shared with you. 1:19:00
Delightful! One of the most entertaining and insightful conversations I have listened to in a LONG time.
I cannot get enough of Douglas Murray!
Never get tired of listening to Douglas Murray wax poetic. I take every opportunity I can get to hear what he has to say.
We have years of his intellect to listen to. It’s time to listen! Intently
Seems like he would wax his carrot if the situation arose 😮
I love Douglas Murray. He’s the epitome of everything that’s great about the UK in general, and England in particular.
England? What do you mean? England is a region of the UK, surely? And in the grand scheme of things England, aka the UK, is in an absolute spiral of destruction and is fast on its why to being a third world country. The debt and the foundations are unsustainable. And this guy that you're praising actually left to go live in the bastion of corruption, so I guess that shows you just how patriotic he is. It's all about the self, remember... And the last time I was in England, it seemed to me to be a country full of not very English looking or sounding people. Perhaps one should consider getting ones house in order? Patriotism, being the last refuge of the scoundrel, and all that. 😢
@@stevencarson9228 Reread my comment. And your observations are duly noted, which is why y’all need someone like Douglas Murray to run the country of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. And the last time I checked, Douglas Murray was born in London, which makes him a Englishman. Remember, all Englishmen are British, but not all Brits are Englishmen.
I could listen to Douglas Murray talk endlessly. He's introduced the word "boring" into my personal lexicon, which feels much more satisfying to say rather than, "not worth wasting my time on".
What a breath of fresh air this man is. Well done Chris for bringing him on and keeping the importance of truth alive ❤️
When Douglas sort of looks off into the distance with a little smile and says "well that's the classic thing, the place you end up is the place you started from." For some reason my heart melted.
Clarity in a chaotic world. Love his work.
What’s so chaotic about it?
Wish I could like this more than once…..great host, great guest……solid conversation
Douglas speaks like a written piece ready for publication.
Almost always - but not quite always! I love him, just the same. Makes more sense than most public intellectuals.
Douglas is always a terrific guest. Thanks for bringing him back again. Was happy to listen to this today.
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This conversation was so enjoyable to listen to and so very refreshing and enlightening, thank you for being a real island in an ocean of bending to the loudest voice in the room
Douglas and Hitchens, two of our very British best 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️
As an American, I've known who Douglas was in the periphery for several years now. I've been seeing him in the last month or so come up in my feed with a lot more regularity. I've become a fan in the last month.
Same.
ha gaaaaaay@@Peaceshiet812
He’s ok. But he’s not immune to self-deception.
@CMA418 nobody is. He does have a refreshing moral clarity on a number of issues where I find it lacking.
@@chefmcd7788 No one is, Indeed. I imagine that thought would terrify and humble people. But humility is not something most people seem to value within themselves. Whatever the case, what do you think Douglas is lying to himself about? How can you be sure it's actual "moral clarity" and it doesn't just SEEM that way? Because it jibes with your own sense of morals? Because a bunch of people agree with him? Because he's sold a lot of books? Is any of this evidence enough? Do you have other evidence? And how can you be 100% certain you're not lying to yourself about what YOU think is moral/immoral?
I can listen to Douglas non-stop Bless him
religion is a lie and so is DM
You can't bless evil people!!!
@@lizzyduke207 Cry me a river
People used to brag about their accomplishments despite their difficulties. Now we just want to brag about our difficulties because accomplishments are too hard to attain through doing nothing productive.
People brag about their difficulties as if they were accomplishments.
Thank you guys! I am incredibly enjoying this conversation, feeling like am with my dearests old friends. This is a ray of light and hope in times of turmoil, fog and darkness!
The expressions D. Murray pulls when hes going fringe makes me laugh. Love these guys, both are a credit to England and make me proud to be a fellow Englishman
🤣🤣🤣 "screaming harpies of insanity"-Douglas Murray and this is my new favorite quote.
I'm Dutch. We've had a housing shortage for decades, at least in the areas with research universities and jobs for that education level. The government has done virtually nothing to solve this. In fact, they've made it so much worse by retaining the totally unfair income tax break they give to highly-educated foreign workers, by attracting probably tens of thousands of foreign students (if not more), by allowing in all these illegals and refugees and their dependents. Hardly any additional housing was built over the past couple of decades. Social housing is a mess and favours people who no longer fit the profile but who aren't kicked out, blocking up social housing with waiting lists now between 10-20 years in some areas. I got more education opportunities than my parents did but I've also got more ambition and I'm more suited to higher education. And we mustn't forget degree inflation where jobs you used to be able to get with a Master's now require a PhD... My parents had more economic benefits I'd say as housing and raising a family was affordable even on one income of a skilled manual labourer. That's totally out of the question now, I think? But I do think our expectations are also different. The house my parents bought was a dump and required a lot of work. I'm not willing to do that, I guess also because of how much it would still cost despite being a dump... My parents will likely get the full state pension when I'm willing to bet this no longer exists when I'm 65+ despite me having to pay into this now.
Thank you 🙏🏻 so easily flowing and very enjoyable conversation!!
This gentleman is a gift to mankind. Real recognizes real.
"I appreciate you." A simple powerful statement more people need to hear.
Okay Hippy.
agreed "i appreciate you" is always an annoying thing to hear@@VladimirVladimirovich1952
@@VladimirVladimirovich1952How's the tank turret high jump competition going?
Absolutely correct😊
@@VladimirVladimirovich1952Do you need a hug? I Love you!
“Shallow pond empathy” … great insight
Douglas Murray is very articulate and talks common sense. We need more people in screen like him.
All the best comments are already taken.I'll just add: Douglas Murray, you are fantastic, Sir. Thank you!
Douglas NEVER disappoints. I love that you have him on repeat in studio.
I laughed so hard when Douglass said that Lizzo outsourced her healthy eating . So true !
What a delightful speaker Douglas Murray is. His voice is super soothing ❤
You are absolutely correct. This is why he can say some of the stupidest things I have ever heard and no one calls him out.
Douglas' thoughts at the 50-minute mark about the logical conclusion of the "colonizers" argument were simultaneously profound and hilarious. I had always known their arguments were bunk but to hear it put this way just makes it so obvious.
Love Douglas Murray. Great dude. He's been on a tear lately and I'm glad for it. Watched every appearance of late, can't get enough apparently.
Yikes hopefully one day you can expand your horizons lol
@@zeuseygastony6385The commenter did not say that is all they consumed in the same period.
@@justahuman2244Touche!
Thanks for this wonderful enlightening talk 👍
I've listened to this podcast 3 times already, it's just amazing.
I'm halfway through this video and need to say that this is one of the most intelligent, honest, straightforward, discussion I've heard in a very long time. Douglass has so much knowledge and it impresses me how he can be so serious and still have such a hilarious sense of humor.
he's a performer who is building a profile on the corpses of gazans
@@mychealleftfoot9030ya right! Get away with your propaganda.
my dad used to say to me when i was working 7 days a week, not seeing my girls grow up, he said "one day, you will be the richest man in the graveyard" i never forgot that! thanks dad! xx
Douglas has a great way of explaining things
Great to hear you 2 guys chatting . Douglas is always on point and refreshing to listen to😊
I LOVE DOUGLAS! So refreshing to hear brilliance on display FINALLY! So sad that not even one of our Western politicians comes close to his intelligence 😢
Most of the politicians are highly intelligent. They are prisoners to the status quo. So is Murray to a point. He won't say 9/11 was a false flag. He won't explain how serious climate change is. I like him, but he is a prisoner to some of the lies as all luminaries are.
@@markrymanowski719Your echo chamber seems quite well sealed, mate
@@MartinParsons-tr6wi I'm not a number. I'm a free man'!!!
Douglas is an absolute legend!
"Steady on the doughnut." - Douglas Murray 😅
I'm a tiny bit overweight. I don't want to see women that are larger than I am, or even my size, advertise stuff they're trying to get me to buy. I don't like my own small flab. I don't need to see anyone else's.
Blown away by the depth, humour and thoughts in this conversation. Thank you both!
I'm blown away at how he remembered CS Lewis poem pertaining to wartime: “Men propound mathematical theorems in beleaguered cities, conduct metaphysical arguments in condemned cells, make jokes on scaffolds, and comb their hair at Thermopylae. This is not panache; it is our nature.“
Douglas Murray is absolutely amazing, he's got a rare, real kind of intellect and always speaks TRUTH! ❤
“Always”? No way. No one is immune to self-deception, though most people like to think they are.
If you think an overconfident word-salad Etonian peppering insecure ideas with literary references is rare, I've got a Garden Bridge to sell you.
Whenever I listen to Douglas I learn so much about the modern world.
@@davidcjuppwow - talk about word- salad !
@@davidcjupphow’s it a “ word salad “ exactly? Don’t think you know what that even means .
Enjoyed this conversation, thank you gentlemen
I enjoyed this conversation. I will search for other interviews on your channel. Thank you.
Douglas.. a breath of fresh air, educated, well spoken, intelligent, compassionate and courageous.
Mr Murray is an AAA tier guest. Ill listen to Douglas every single time.
Amen
What a fantastic conversation. Good on you for resisting the madness of the day.