Apple's M4 Chips Leaked - M4 Extreme Mac Pro CONFIRMED!
Apple's entire M4 lineup of chips has been LEAKED by Mark Gurman on X. This includes the upcoming M4 chip, the M4 Pro, the M4 Max, the M4 Ultra & M4 Extreme. Here's everything you NEED to know..
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Apple in 2025: we are so excited to introduce our new chip.....M5 EPIC
lol, or SledgeHammer or Bulldozer or other over-the-top names AMD chose over the years
For the iPad
😂
EPIC would be the perfect troll
Will be sued by Epic Games
Need OLED MacBook Pro with FaceID and no notch!
They are already micro led
@@arphenti2502 mini led*
@@SinghalRishi27 yeah lol
100%! Useless stupid notch! I don’t understand the point of it!
If they get rid of the notch, where will Face ID go?
RIP Nvidia? Let's be serious now.
When had this channel been serious?😂
just down vote click bait thumb vids. they will learn eventually
R.I.P. Nvidia GTX 1060 would be bitten by M4 Extreme next year 🤣
Apple has destroyed the competition
😂😂😂😂
M4 Extreme in Mac Pro that is much more reasonable to me, it makes not sense that Mac Pro is much more expensive than Mac studio with the same chip.
@@sebastianstubenreuther4373Mac Pro not MacBook pro. Both are desktop standalone PCs, the Mac Pro is just bigger with slightly more expansion options for a ridiculously high price compared to the completely equal Studio
@@sebastianstubenreuther4373 i think you dont get either a display nor a speaker with the mac pro
Hidra = one body + many heads ... am I the ony one who see similarity to AMD Epyc CPU with one big central OI chiplet and 12 CPU chiplets (8 CPU cores each) to get 96 cores in total? Just for M4 Extreme AKA Hidra the central chiplet would be massive GPU with CPU chiplets around.
Will cost all Kidneys of All family members.
I am excited
actually the "M4 Hydra" would be a pretty cool name.
Hail hydra
M4 Kraken
Nah, that “Hydra” is associated with an allegory of Nazism in Marvel.
@@MrSamPhoenixI mean, it’s kinda niche, but sure, the Hydra has some negative connotations by itself.
@@Mainyehc hey plenty of Marvel fans out there. They’ll notice it immediately.
efficiency CPU cores aren't useless on a desktop. Using less power to do background simple tasks helps keep heat and power usage down.
wish my budget allowed me to replace my hot roaring 2016 macbook pro i use as a home media computer with a more energy efficient M series mac mini
I assume these machines are not expected to do any light tasks 99,9% of the day. They are meant to be extreme workhorses rendering video, 3D and AI stuff 24/7. Heat should be no problem in the studio since it has a massive cooler and the M4 is probably a very efficient chip to start with
@@NoOne-uh9vuworkstation powerhouses, infamous for users that never use browsers or light apps and for never running basic OS tasks in the background
Power usage isn't so much of a concern on desktop, heat is but when it comes to Apple silicon chips, the performance cores already use so little power (they are literally used in phones) that they aren't going to be making much of a difference.
People who spend that much money on a computer dont care about power bill
*5090 has entered the chat*
Came here for the M4 news and got a Greek Mythology lesson on top of it
Intoducing the M4 crunch wrap supreme.
😂
If all these rumors are true, M3 definitely is the most incomplete and very short-lived series.
Exactly! But remember, Mark Gurman might be not 100% accurate. It's only rumors so far. Mark Gurman has been wrong before. I think he's 80-95% accurate. Not 100%. Remember that.
Yes, but it's not a bad thing that the M3 series is way better as a laptop chip than a desktop chip. You wouldn't want to put a full size RTX4090 in a laptop.
The way they create new products is just insane. This means next year this M3 series will be already obsolete. We have M1, M2, M3 and now M4 in less than 4 years it is insane. I don't know for you guys but I buy Macs following my need and not following the hype.
@@nicolasb.henry294it's the same routine as for the A series for iPhone. So it's not a big deal. The tricky thing is the scaling when adding cores. We saw the problems with the scaling with M1 Ultra for the GPU cores. It got improved with M2 Ultra but not 100% perfect. It takes time to build up a business with employees. The best people. Probably that's why Ultra was "Dual Max" to save time. Apple probably got more people working with the M series so that's why it's so likely to see Ultra that's a brand new design instead of Dual Max. This is my thoughts :)
@@nicolasb.henry294 Same. My MBP 16 with a M1 Max 64gb is WAY more than I need already, for a long time
So... worth it to wait for the Mac Studio? Any info on the price points being the same/similar?,
Listening to his videos at x1.25 speed seems more natural to me. Might be helpful for others. 😊
He already speaks pretty fast. I think a little slower would be better not faster.
Always x2 for speech. x1.25-1.5 for songs.
1.75x-2x
1,15x is best for him
2x minimum
Keep up the good work, I waited for 3 years now watching such upcoming videos and I'll keep waiting 😂
will there be hardware changes? Im using an old surface book atm, and want to upgrade. I'm not sure if I should wait till end of the year?
I really hope that the MacBook Pro comes with 24GB Ram and 1TB SSD in the basic configuration!
Don’t hold your breath lol
you would be extremely lucky to get 12gb
Not soon. They will on 18+512 for 5 generations at least.
@@ataytaygaraev4298 AI could change it, 18 GB is not enough!
@@TheVikingRaid In the base base model yes, I referred to the 18GB M3!
I need a M3 Ultra Studio now! I have been waiting till June now what! The big oversized Mac Pro is off the table literally for me. Both price and space wise! How about another IMac Pro with proper thermals. I still use mine every day. I know many pro users who feel the same way!
Same! But M3 Max instead of M3 Ultra. I cannot see Apple skip M3 for all these Macs: Mac Mini Mac Studio Mac Pro Right now... M3: MBA, MBP14 low-end, iMac M3 Pro: MBP14/16 M3 Max: MBP14/16 Only one Mac got Pro and Max. That makes no sense. Apple wanna make as much money as possible from the M3 lineup??
I’ve been waiting on fire for the best M3 Ultra Studio to move my serious pro work from my M1 Pro MacBook Pro which is connected to a Tri- monitor setup in a clamshell mode. But I need the highest number of CPU and GPU cores with most importantly double the ANU cores. The Max chip is not an option for me as it has only double the GPU cores in the Pro, while keeping the same amount of CPU and ANU cores, and probably the same amount of encoders/ decoders. Not a good upgrade in my case. From first rumours I was hoping the M4 Ultra Studio will be released this year skipping M3 Ultra. I have to wait for the M4 as Apple always give the worst version when introducing new node design then follow it with the best version in the next generation, like they did when introduced the 5nm in iPhone 12, but perfected it with a big difference in the iPhone 13. I need the enhanced ANU and the perfected 3nm chip, and now I have to wait longer. It’s very frustrating, I am in the same boat. Very excited hoping the wait will end any minute as I’m currently struggling with my M1 Pro, but won’t pay the Studio premium unless it’s the right machine that I’m gonna stuck with for the next 3+ years, and prices are ridiculous, especially if you want to upgrade the RAM for example. I wish the base M4 Ultra comes with more than 64GB or they reduce the RAM ridiculous upgrade price, but Cook will try to Milk us every possible way until it’s obsolete!
@@fmax3000since the M3 series is layed out like the M1 and M2, the size of the neural engine is unknown. A bigger NE would make my workflow a lot faster, but I’m not holding my breath.
@@KoenKooiI’ve actually meant, for me buying the ultra studio will be a good upgrade on my current M1 Pro as I will gain from double the ANU as of 32 compared to 16. And of course hoping they increase the number of cores as well but as you said we shouldn’t hold our breath for that. But will have to wait for the M4 which is supposed to have a significant speed bump in the ANU wether because of core count bump or clock speed bump.
A M4 extreme in the Mac Pro will not matter if Apple still lacks expansion options
There’s no Mac Studio Pro, lol! It’s Mac Pro.
This will be true in the larger picture, mostly, but for certain specific niche tasks the Extreme Studio will outshine the competition. If the M4 Extreme studio will find mass market adoption is questionable for now especially considering the probable price point. Maybe Apple has something planned but until then it looks like they are purposefully missing the needs of the pro market
Thunderbolt 5 is 120G, so that’s plenty fast enough.
@@NoOne-uh9vu You’re right
@@fmax3000 Right. But lets me real, the MacPro isnt going to go forward much longer. The form factor and expandability is a joke and so is the adoption rate. They might use TB5 in the future for "expansions"
Still rock’n my iMac Pro with an Intel Xeon chip. 😬
that intel xeon chip is amazing. We bought it for heavy computing, increased the ram to 64 and it’s just a beast. no comparison.
@@PabloGallardoMolina well, the base model M1 is as fast in multicore and way faster in single core while using 8 times less energy.
so no new mac studio in july? I dont want to wait another year.
Me too!
Apple is making the N3E chips right now, so there is good reason to think they’ll have something in June.
Same boat.
That is what Gurman is saying, though he has been wrong before. But the M3 architecture seems to rule out an Ultra, so he’s probably right.
i mean studio is for work, you should never wait to buy tools that cost not much like a computer.
Which means basically 2 things. 1) We won't get any M3 Ultra/Extreme this year. 2) We won't get an M4 Ultra this year in June - which contradicts the previous video you did.
Are you surprised with this channel?
Change your channel name to over hype Apple tech please
😂😊😂
I agree
exactly 😂
1. Overhype apple 2. New apple device was a disappointment 3. I was wrong 4. PROFIT Rinse and repeat.
I was about to buy a M3 MBA today with an online retailer offering an 11% discount but with the M4 just over a year away, with a better/larger Neural Engine(FINALLY) and even faster CPU & GPU... I think it would be worth the wait.
you said rip nvidia gpu nvidia kills apple in addition the rtx 4090 was released 2 years ago in 4 months the rtx 5090 will be released and will destroy apple for another 3 years
And you need to hang the 5090's power supply outside your window! 😂😂
Make sure you keep a fire extinguisher next to you? And let’s also not forget power consumption
@@I_like_science yes NVIDIA have high tdp but it is powerful on dekstop pc for creators needs a very powerful computer and not a effeciency computer and lower performance apple chips is good for laptop
@@TechGameDev that’s where you’re wrong. The reason why most workstations consume large amounts of energy is INEFFICIENCY. M chips and their built in GPUs can perform at the same level as “recent” discrete gpus at 30w. Imagine a desktop M1 apu that’s comes close to a 4080 that consumes 100w that would be awesome ! I can’t wait for the future
@@I_like_science you can't get 4080 level performance at least the desktop version even with a ultra chip Because SOC doesn't provide even cooling and the diminishing return with apple SOC is really high Even with all the power in the world it can't even come close to 4080ti super level performance whose TDP is 150-200 watts It's like saying a kid has a lot of energy in his childhood and will have the same or better at 30-40 years of age
Just want to mention that Microsoft believes that all new AI PCs will need 40 TOPs to be considered AI certified or ready so they can run LLMs locally. No current M2 or M3 based chip has that many TOPs, so I think that Apple needs to make sure all M4 chips have that many TOPs to remain competitive and will revamp their AI processing.
That said though the M2 Max, M2 Ultra and M3 Max chips are the only consumer products in the market that have enough VRAM for 70b models. They are not the fastest, but to do that with traditional GPUs you need to buy either 3 4090s for $6000 or an A100 for $40000 + the PC cost. So yeah currently for local LLMs apple is one of the best options, despite not being the fastest.
What exactly is an AI PC ?
We need this on the iphone
AI is a marketing spiel to sell you a laptop. Most people using AI will not need that level of performance. Apple also measures its TOPS using FP16 (16-bit floating point), which differs from 1:1 compared with rivals. FP16 is obviously different in machine learning to FP32 in many ways. These include less memory use and faster but less precision without balances.
I just bought M3 Pro MacBook Pro 14 with 18GB ram 1Tb ssd. Am I good with this one? Are they coming out with any new type of studio display soon?
18GB :) why not 16 or 32 ?
@@adredy if you choose the M3 pro chip the base starts at 18gb ram. M3 starts at 8 or 16 I think
Bad step with only 18gb
I doubt it will outperform Nvidia 5090. At least with the M4 chip, the M3 laptops will go on discount sale. Still waiting for the next great Mac Mini.
they don't just like the m2 and m1 didn't, m1 is still far above what 99% need
@JohnSmith-pn2vl It did. Both the M1 and M2 Pros started at $2,000. Currently the M1 Pro is at $1,300, and the M2 Pro is at $1,500 on Amazon.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl My MacBook pro m1 with 32gb ram is slow and sluggish to use. My PC costs half of it and performs so much better. I know it's laptop vs pc but good windows PC has good performance too. Only downside of windows laptop is the battery life for me
What if Mac Pro is a huge PCIE/MPX case, and users can get up to 4 M4 ultra MPX slot in the Mac pro housing?
Does anyone know what apple's resistance to offering a bigger screen iMac again?
I'd like an iMac Pro with the 32" screen
you the apple fans will never see a real "change" until Tim Cook Retires or resigns he is not a tech guy he is all about numbers
I'm wanting to upgrade my 5K 27" iMac, but refuse to go the current 24". I reckon if they released say a ~30 inch M3 (or better) iMac, not even going "Pro", it would fly off the shelves, but I guess Apple must feel the market/consumer desire just isn't big enough (yet) ?
I believe it was for design reasons, cheaper to make a 24 inch with high PPI than a 27. But you could instead get a 5k display or even bigger with a Mac mini or entry studio. I agree it’s not an all in one but you would get better performance on the other hand
I need one, have to get one. But I want it in a smaller Mac studio box. The Mac Pro box is just pointless. It's not like it's a custom built gaming PC where we can upgrade every part of it individually, so why do we need it to take up all that room.
Will they fix the"Gofetch" issue in the M4s?
I believe this is staged(not that i say the vulnerability is fake but they knew from the begging and they just wanna see the saturation of sales) and to make more m4 sales coz all has same similar performance
I would REALLY love to see Imac Pro or Imac Max (with M4 Pro/Max chips, not just *base* M4). Pretty sure a 24 inch+ behemoth will be able to handle all the power with no heat and minimal fans
Many users would rather prioritize CPU over GPU performance when specifying a system for their purchase but Apple seems to include large numbers of GPU cores with systems that include large number of CPU cores. The extra GPU cores do have a cost not only monetarily but in terms of precious die real-estate which could be used for more CPU cores. In the PC world, one could buy a system with a high end Threadripper processor with a mid-grade GPU so mixing and matching is possible in the PC world.
Which Macs don't have the storage soldered onto the board? Those I might be interested in.
Mac Pro only.
Always good info on the channel! I always look forward to the latest news. Keep doing AMAZING videos! The data and the knowledge is hands-down my fav!
With so many M chips, it would be awesome to connect all of them together with thunderbolt to share processing power similar to how EGPU works. Especially would be helpful for exporting images or video.
The next top of the line chip will be call M5 Armageddon
100% after 5 will be 6 and after 9 .... X :)
Mark Gurman is most probably hired by apple marketing.. to keep interest poured in..
as if apple would need to do that
Did you forget that you said the same exact thing about the M1 extreme being confirmed for WWDC two years ago
It's here in spirit
yes, he even mentioned it in the video ?
"M4 Ultra will outperform any Nvidia GPU" This cannot be further from the truth, even a mobile RTX 4070 wipes the floor with every Apple GPU in existence, let alone a Desktop 4070 which is 40% faster than its laptop variant, and a Desktop 4090 is 4 TIMES faster than a laptop 4070, Apple simply have no hope with M4 Extreme, and Nvidia is not sitting idle, 5080 and 5090 are rumored to be released in Q3 or Q4 this year, and they're rumored to be monsters, 70% faster performance in rasterized games, and 200% faster in ray traced games compared to a 4090 which is already beyond Apple's wildest expectations. The GPU on Apple sadly would remain a handicap and Nvidia would still be the performance king.
lol no, listen you're a gamer, there are no games on mac. In real tasks the 4090 cannot compete already or barely at 600watts vs 100 lmao. there is also little reason to compare it to ancient nvidia hardware. you cannot use it in modern computers like a mac anyway.
I totally agree when we talk about LLM and other machine learning tasks. Nvidias Cuda Cores are outperforming the apple chips at the moment
@@DoctorAthom except they don't in practice. plenty of benchmarks and tests, only desktop who use copious amounts of energy can beat it, but it's not really beating that way.
@@Wybremlol, 4090 beats apple GPUs at everything that isnt an Apple silicon specific software. Apple dont make powerful gpus when compared to nvidia, they make powerful CPUs. And that is before we look at non-gaming nvidia gpus
@@Dani-kq6qq no, the 4090 uses 600watts, limit it to 100 and it's useless. just using more energy is not impressive or winning, it's just show how incompetent you are.
WWDC - Mac mini with M3 October -Mac Studio, and MacBook Pro with M4 Brava, MacBook Pro with Donan
Maybe, with a redesign of the ultra chip as a desktop chip with no efficiency cores, then it’ll have sense to fusion two of this new ultra chips in a new one. 2 desktop ultra chips connected together will have more sense than the actual ultra, with 2 max chips together.
I was really hoping for the Mac Studio this year… I don’t want the old M2 and having to wait another years is 😢
I am in the same situation, I need a Mac Studio but I don’t want to buy an one year old one, at least at the actual, the base model in Spain is starting at $2550…
Weird....why would Apple "leak" new M4s so far away from their actual release dates?? Seems like that would do nothing but depress Apple sales until late 2024 or 2025. The PC industry is already seeing a downturn in overall sales...which is also affecting Apple. I see the M4 release to be announced at June WWDC ... with all except the Ultra and Extreme variants available right away. The M3 set the course for 3nm (and smaller?). The M4 adds more 3D/AR/VR punch with even better power efficiency.
Artificial Intelligence (AI) marketing sells phones and laptops, so Apple is rushing to promote its upcoming AI. With Qualcomm and Windows going all-out on the Snapdragon X Elite coming in Q3, Apple needs to reassure the market that all is on target with M4 AI coming soon after.
I really hope they come out with a 16" MBP that can slot the M4 Ultra. Maybe they have to downclock it for thermals but that would still be sick.
Not going to touch a new Mac this year. We need beefier npu in Mac chip with more ram. Otherwise u can't run llm locally
So how much faster would these be compared to m3?
:) who cares
This is kind of counter to what your brother was suggesting a few days ago, where he believe Apple may release the higher end chips first, before releasing the lesser M4 and M4 Pro chips, being that Apple hasn't updated the Studio or the Mac Pro in quite a while, and the M3 Max has been out for several months now.
will it have 16tb storage?
Wish Apple would include a BTO Pro chip for the iMacs.
I was about to buy a M3 macbook pro max. Should I wait then?
wait for me :) 5-10 years :)
Learn about "go fetch 🐶"
”leaked” 😅 ..please stop, it was PR for 20 years now
they're cooking we are ahead over 4o years
Vadim analyzed the living hell out of every single relevant leak & report to make this awesome video. Tremendous work! Thank you!
i'm just waiting on the Mac Studio to move onto M3 (M4 would be insane though) before i order my next new mac so i can get back to work 😴
M4 Hydra. Because it has more than one heads. This is going to be a special SOC.
hahahaahah
These leaks are not helping me. I need to update my 2015 imac 27" I need the raytracing update in M3 over M2 for my work. Do I hold on for an M4? If I didn't know about the M4, I'd have no problem buying an M3 studio. The age old problem, eh....
You’ll be fine with m3 MBP
I’m in a similar boat man. I will just say just wait until the M4 comes out and see if it’s worth the upgrade otherwise get the M3. Now, if they would get a 120 Hz studio display, I’d be really happy.
Coming from a 2015 to an M3 or newer will blow your socks off. lol. I think I’m going to hold off til M4 ultra drops for the Mac Studio. WWDC may shed some light on the direction they are headed.
@@Ronniezim I need a desktop with at least a 27" monitor.....
@@davids4610 I use a laptop with a 40” external monitor with thunderbolt dock. If you need the machine this is a great option and best of both worlds
Does the M4 do away with the exploit on logging into a Mac?
It won’t outperform Nvidia GPUs by the time it comes out. 50 series starts coming out by the end of this year with big performance jumps.
I'd be surprised if it beats a 4090
Apple has ruined the competition
@@maxweinbach3996 apple has ruined his own capability to compete with other's
ofc it beats it jsut do the math, m2 ultra is already very similar to 4080, now 2 more generations (M4) and double of an ultra. no way 5000 series doubles to 4000, so it's a given imo
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl Well first of all, the 4090 is 30% faster than the 4080, which is 10% faster than M2 Ultra. The 5090 is supposed to be 70% faster than the 4090 and it’s definitely coming out at the end of this year or very early next year, and the big M4 chip is maybe coming out at the end of next year so….. I’d bet on Nvidia having more performance for at least the next year and a half, if not flat out more than the big M4 chip even if you assume Apple will get the performance scaling right this time. I guess we’ll find out in a couple of years though. Both are powerful products, and there’s no question that Apple will continue to hold an insanely massive power efficiency advantage.
Sorry Vadim, you’re outta your mind if you think that they’re gonna compete with NVIDIA. They currently don’t have anything close to the H100 (let alone whatever Blackwell has brought) or the MI flagship AMD has made. But I’m sure you’ll find some metric that lets you declare victory, even though we all know what’s going on.
Apples’s M4 leaks very exciting News, can’t wait to see what’s next. Any leaks and talk about the M1, 2 and 3 not mentioned or talked much about M-series chips vulnerability fix?
I just need to know if I can replace my gaming pc with this
My 2017 iMac 5K is on its last legs and I was hoping to buy a new Max Mac Studio in June😬
slow ?
Can’t update past Ventura and SoftRaid keeps giving me warnings that the SSD is failing.
Why can't Apple make the equivalent of an M6or M8 chip instead of these yearly updates? Could they do it and are just holding out so people will upgrade each year?
Thx for the report, M3/4 Ultra significant upgrade was more less expected to arrive as scaling of the M1/2 Ultra chips with Fusion IO wasn't working as expected. It looks like Apple is opting for MCM technology we can see now in the Nvidia's Blackwell which is overcoming these flaws and delivering true multi chip scaling. Apple with TSMC r clearly cooking something very similar to what Nvidia went with.
next year… really??? I wanted to buy a mac studio and not the m2, was holding out for the m3 ultra…
M4 extreme in the ipad will be a game changer
Do still we expect Apple planning MacBook SE 12inch with m2 😅. Or Apple drop this plan 😮
I hope that happens, it would be the perfect laptop
@@apoorv_mc get tablet !
@@adredy already got the ipad pro, but a laptop is a laptop
make sense m4 ultra for studio, m4 extreme for mac pro
Let me get a buildable mac computer. Sure it has based specs that you get in a pre build. But it would be great if I could put in an RTX 4090 or something.
I no longer watch rumor videos, but M4 Extreme is just too good to miss out.
So no Mac Studio for WWDC this year like you said in your last video?
It simple, M4 Extreme = 4 x M4 Max wired up, just like M4 Ultra = 2 x M4 Max
meanwhile we are still waiting M3 lineup refresh for all the mac models.
5090 joined the game
Im using my M2 Max MacBook Pro. Super cool. Though I’m gonna wait for the m4 extreme
come July i’m ordering a Mac Studio no matter what - but since i’m waiting i’m just praying it’s gonna be an M3 and not an M2, otherwise i will have wasted 3 months
*M4 Ultra would probably have two ultrafusion connections to allow at least 4x M4 Ultra chips to connect together. So you can choose between 1-4 ultra chips connected together, possibly even more.* *The single M4 ultra chip is going to be a massive die. i wonder how apple will get high yields with a chip that big.*
I have no need for an Ultra or an Extreme and the Max is more than enough CPU horsepower for me. What I need is 32 GB of RAM or more and support for 4 external monitors and the base M1 Studio works fine for me. Would I need an Ultra or Extreme in the future? I sincerely doubt it as Apple makes their systems faster every year. By the time I need a new Studio, it will probably be at least twice as fast. BTW, If Apple does a 27 inch iMac, I will take a hard look at it.
Have to admit the reason I don’t ever upgrade is because the new version gets hype a couple months after launch and rumors pop up soon then the new iteration happens 10-12 months after the version you just bought. We have no time to enjoy anything without the new version being talked about and manufactured. We spend so much money to constantly have the old version
Welcome to the tech world! It's literally what every tech company does is update their devices every year (on most things, not all). It's only more evident for us when we are really paying attention on a product we really want and keep tabs on.
I have been putting off upgrading my son’s computer waiting for powerful M3 chips to come to desktop models. So I kinda hope this information is wrong because we can’t wait another 6 months to a year for a Mac Studio with ray tracing and I really don’t want to sink money into a M2 based Mac. It’s hard because he is 15, interested in game design and constantly hinting that he would prefer a Windows PC. My plan was to drop a M3 with great graphics on him, hoping that would suffice for a time. Having a desktop Mac would help his mother and I manage a young person’s computer (we are both solidly Mac people) and then of course when he was older he could do whatever he wished, perhaps getting a RGB space heater… although I would be tempted to get him to pay for the extra electricity he used. 😂
I said at the very beginning of Apple Silicon that they were focusing too much on mobile use and basically putting laptop CPUs in desktop computers. Not that the CPUs were bad, but desktops just didn’t see much, if any, advantage over laptops, vs. x86 PCs that had far better desktop performance against laptops. The only advantage of a Mac mini is cheaper price due to no built-in display…and arguably better cooling. It’s nice to see Apple is supposedly finally serious about desktop-only CPUs and not just the kludge the Ultras are.
I don't think Apple has to name it M4 "Extreme" because there will no M4 "Ultra" to begin with, hence they could just name it M4 "Ultra" again, and don't offer it on MacStudio - which would prevent cannibalization of MacPro sales
amazon has discounted mac mini m2's it looks like apple is preparing to upgrade to the m3 in the mini's
Do I understand correctly that to get the benefits of the M4 Chips, you need to purchase a Mac? And, seeing that you need to purchase a Mac, means that you are limited to using Apple Software. If Apple thinks their chips are such "Hot Stuff", than why not build a PC that can operate Microsoft Windows Operating System and Windows compatible programs? Or, is there a problem in competing with Intel and AMD? Does anyone have an answer to these questions?
What happened with M3 Ultra?
Here is the reflection, the concept of Apple's M-line processors, and thinking about energy efficiency, better performance aligned with low energy consumption. An Extreme version may require much higher power consumption to deliver the best performance, which is what Nvidia, AMD, and Intel do to have in their Hi-End products. Will Apple accept that its M concept has to operate more like what it already operates on the X86 concepts?
Have to hand it to Apple for showcasing what is possible with ARM on the latest TSMC silicon nodes. That's a dinner bell for competitors like Qualcomm and soon Nvidia ..
I have one kislux bag I got in 2019, it's the LV white catogram speedy. It's counter quality and it has a nice honey patina now, so the leather is real. I think whatever makes you happy go for it. I've seen LV with plastic leather and blood red glaze...
Bro I literally picked up my M3 Pro today
Bro they literally come out with new chips every year
thats a low performance machine so why would you care
wonder if they will finally have wifi 7 and AV1 10bit HDR encode
Apple in 2026: we are so excited to introduce our new chip..... M6 BERSERK
Mac Pro is a "professional" platform, priced accordingly. What if Apple used this node to introduce a "gamer" product, aimed at a lower price point but with the graphics power needed for gaming in a simple package like a Mac mini, minus all the video production hardware, and appropriate accessories to complete the package? Would it sell?
Hail Hidra!! Hope they replace the obligatory Apple sticker with an evil Hidra variant. 😂
Just bought an air M3 15” guess I should’ve waited
tim : c'mon gaymer buy our m4 pro ultra extra max plus xxl its just $9999
Just bought a 16 inch MacBook Pro M3 Pro for 2450 Canadian. Was going to sell for 3k and grab an M3 Max for 4000 canadian so essentially into an M3 Max for 3450. But you are saying hold off on buying the M3 Max (which means wouldn’t sell my M3 Pro) and wait for the M4 to drop ? Could easily sell the M3 Pro for 2 k and not lose all that much.
that sucks - i want an updated mac mini with an m3 pro now
Of course you can scale the media encoders. Tell the first to encode 0:00 to 4:59 and the second to encode 5:00 to 10:00 of your 10 minute video.
They got rid of the interconnect on m3 cuz they knew it would be replaced with higher yield 3nm
Fantastic recap. Liked the video really very much