Ale Moreno GOES ON A RANT about the Premier League 😳 | ESPN FC
2024 ж. 26 Сәу.
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Ale Moreno, Steve Nicol, Shaka Hislop and Jurgen Klinsmann join Dan Thomas on ESPN FC to discuss Gareth Southgate defending his decision to play John Stones in England's international friendly vs. Belgium when Ale decides to unleash his opinions on the English national club and the Premier League.
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Real Madrid's Camavinga is also injured but no know is making a big deal out of it because it's not Premier league.
English speaking pundits must focus on English teams and English players😂😂😂..
@@roshan_a_yet not one of these pundits is English
FYI ESPN has the legal streaming rights for La Liga @@roshan_a_
@@roshan_a_ They're not English pundits. But they are often ignorant of other leagues.
@@GIBBO4182the channel is literally called espn uk bro
Imgane Dokovic stepping out in the middle of Wimbledon to play Davis Cup ... Internationals should be played after the club season is over... This way you can finish the season by early May or even late April and you can have 2 months of int football if you want
Thing is... there are over half the globe where the season follows the calendar year (which makes much more sense btw), so yeah no way around it man. They already get the luxury that the main ones are played in the middle of the year between seasons in europe. Like the Asian ajd african cup, most countries there use the calendar year season so it makes sense the tournament be in january coz it's their preseason. Now if they have players abroad still it is their continent and their countries, deal with it. What I'm against is this pointless friendlies, there's very little space for then nowadays but still we have like 6 to 10 a year for some reason
This is a whole different scenario because tennis calendar is already set up. Tell me when does a national team plays this matches BEFORE the tournament in the summer if not during the season. You want England to show up to the Euros without having played a match?
Craig needed to be there to hear Ale's point
They said it was a rant...clickbait I guess😅
Exactly. These pundits think the premier league is the only league in the world.
Jurgens has the best laugh!
One of the all time great strikers and a great manager too. Comes across as a very humble and decent man
Competitive international is one thing but friendly international is another I thought the nation cup was to get rid of friendlies... pointless
I think you all are missing the point its the fact that John Stones who hasn’t played much for City was starting 2 games in 4 days when he’s injury prone Im upset Rice played the 90 mins in both games but atleast he’s not an injury prone player so you can accept that a bit John Stones is different he is injury prone so you have to be extra cautious with him and the players Southgate mentioned Odegaard, Halaand, Van Dijk and Ake, these players aren’t injury prone so you can take a little more risk with them
Maybe part of the problem is the way friendly games are reffed, they let more tackles go unpunished by cards creating more chances of players getting injured.
I do not believe these Manchester City players (Stones, Walker, Silva, Dias, Ake, Akanji) have injury during the friendly international games. After a few days, you will see them at 100 percent as if they really had an injury and was planned by Pep Guardiola..
Watch them go 10 straight wins, steamrolling everyone
Stones, Walker and Akanji are all doubt for the Arsenal game.
I think you believe Saka, Gabriel etc of Arsenal are injured
@@aquinasntab71 NO, IM REFERRING ONLY TO MAN CITY, NOT OTHER PREMIERE LEAGUE TEAMS SON. MY SON LISTEN
@@dantralius9269 IF THEY DID NOT PLAY, THEY ARE PREPARING THEM IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT.
4:26 Shaka's train of thought leaves the station.
What is the point here? It’s no news that stone was injured. He’s always injured btw
Thank GOD someone said ENOUGH with England news we dont care !!!!! So many good international games over the weekend and all you guys talk bout is England and their players enough !!!
Haven't you heard? They're the next European champions 😄
@@Iron-Bridgethe "its coming home chants have already begun". We will be there😂
How about stop watching espn uk?
@@environm3ntalist549they'd rather just keep moaning, and getting likes for their anti English comments
@@Iron-Bridge 5-time defending champions too ;)
Stones said to Declan Rice he didn’t know about the game against Arsenal on Sunday yet fakes an injury within 10 minutes like Kyle Walker did .
Can we get a single pundit to tell it like it is? These players fake injuries to get out of international friendlies because it DOES NOT MATTER. They’d rather focus on their club trophies.
So you’re saying they should force to play in a friendly game??? What’s the purpose of this?😂😂
Stones has been injured all season. He's always injured. Stop with the conspiracies.
You are a m*ron.
Ale was starting to spit facts there at the end about England and the premier league, Dans producers told him to Interrupt😌 long live Queen Lizzy
shes in a box where she belongs, move on nerd
She's brown bread, sunshine.
Why are you watching English/American KZhead channel?
John Stones once killed two stones with one bird.
shut up pep
so he killed himself?
Who cares what club managers think , they don;t actually care about the players it's pure self interest. The players are of their country for their whole career, club teams come and go.If John Stones didn't feel right to play and didn't really want to play he would have declared himself unavailable, clearly he wanted to play so that should be end of it, players get injured all the time, players regularly miss international fixtures due to injuries picked up in club games, it is what it is.
The clubs are the ones who paid the players, friendlies are a waste of time.
@@erickarias3309 They're needed for managers to try out new players get players used to playing with each other.
No worries. Man City players always gets "injured" in the internationals during the homestretch. They'll make some kind of miraculous recovery soon.
Of course, Erling Haaland is often injured during the internationals, but surprisingly, he seems to be fit enough for crucial PL games.
@ezraezra2928 except that last time he was injured this season and he missed 2 months.
I think friendlies are a waste of time.
To you it is To the national teams it is very important.
@@curtischarles5299 He didn't say the national teams weren't important.
@@jackmurphy6864 Curtis didn't say that though, he said that national teams valued friendlies which is true.
@@YOnuTz02 I know. But that's not what I was talking about.
How else do you assess players if not during friendlies?
When John Stones was born in the hospital the doctors found him injured.
😂
Underrated comment. 😂
Jurgen looks in form
For once Moreno spoke the truth and made so much sense
Which truth? The same Ale was complaining about Bellingham playing 2 full 90mins with RM upcoming fixtures
The issue with international and club game debate of when players should rest is each country league, federation and national teams are only looking at themselves asking how to get more games for more money and it's just to many games
Southgate sucked up to EPL clubs & the captain. He waffled that Bellingham should play another 90min, like Real Madrid doesn't havea tough game against Atheletic Bilbao & then City. What a loser, this will be remembered.
Rice played 90mins in both games
Southgate also cause us Big problèmes. Ours best players r injuries Walker n John stones
@@user-je8nb6jw2s fake injuries we know that
Exactly
@@user-je8nb6jw2sThey're not injured lol
Pep turned Stones into prime Beckenbauer
No he didn’t. Beckenbauer was the ‘libero’ or sweeper behind the back line. He often surged upfield and shot from 20 to 30 meters out.
no.
😂😂😂
how old are you..........
😂😂
National teams pay wages too tho people forget that although it’s not as much as club
good take Ale, VAMOS VENEZUELA
Well said Ale Moreno.
Thank you Ale. It’s a global game. Only EPL fans think EPL is the center of the sport.
you say that my friend and I like moreno in general but its a stupid rant really🤣 the only people that will be annoyed re john stones injury is m city and thier fans and pep guardiola because it effects them not fans of the epl in general whether you think its the best league or not is irrelevant really🤔
Well it is look at the viewing numbers look at the budgets in transfers Epl is number1 just like serie a was and la liga
@@jackreilly4417 well I prefer the premier league m8 because I support a premier league club however this john stones injury is not really to do with what is the best league imo I dont know why the guy in the video is making that the issue really🤔 the issue is he is playing in mickey mouse friendlies and has picked up a stupid injury I guess pep is fuming 🤣
Global game lol. You missing the point. It’s a friendly and Southgate job isn’t in danger after 2 bad friendly games. The point is to win the Euros and to have your best player in good shape at the time. If you know that Stones and Rice are starters for Arsenal and City you don’t play them in those friendly. Because you know they are going to play all the game in PL and in CL for their Club until the end of the season. If matchweek 37 big muscle injury for Rice and he forfeit the Euros Southgate fault. Deschamps made several changes between the 2 friendly matches. He started Saliba just after criticizing publicly and we already know Saliba won’t be a starter at the euros.
@@simonoliver8576You can also get injured in a "mickey mouse" training game. Injuries are the occupational hazard of football. Always was is and will be
I think a manager actually takes pressure off himself by picking new players for friendly games like this. If he had picked konsa and branthwaite at center-back And Trafford in goal, it wouldn't have mattered much if we had lost the game because he could say I needed to have a look at these players and a friendly was the perfect time to do it. Everybody would have understood it was a experimental side and a non-competitive fixture.
In terms of consistency Stones is the greatest defender in Premier league history
John Terry if we're talking center backs
Blasphemous statement....
all the english players are the best , all of them should win ballondr....England are also the fav for every tournament!!! without winning anything since 1967.
To me the timing of these international friendlies makes no sense 🤔
Ale's words are very true and I understand that ESPN FC is a English language platform about football but it's so English football bias and oriented that the pundits just sound or perhaps are stupid. Blah, blah, blah and then a European team wins the UCL and England don't win the Euros again...😅😅
England is a European country
It's the 115 Club, they'll all be magically fit come the weekend.
Where is the rant?
This is ignorance!!! Why should a club or international coach control who and when players should play???
2:04 - I'm going to disagree with Klinsmann on this. Ben White's ascent to near world class status is totally due to his performances at the club level. Same for William Saliba. Both players have been excluded from meaningful national team action by their respective managers. I understand that previously the prestige that came from playing international tournaments boosted the commercial value of players at he club level, but that was because the international level of play used to be the highest. It's hard to argue that any Nations League compares to Libertadores or the Champions League. The club level is where the highest quality of play is today, and thus, where players derive their highest value from.
Saliba and white both aren't on crazy wages. His point was that the most valuable amd highest paid players that clubs are worried about are often players who are also pivotal and marquee for the national team. Mbappe for example, had his value sky rocket for those world cup and euro performances which was good enough to offset the "he plays in ligue 1" debate. I don't think there has ever been a time where people have say the international game was the highest level of football. It'd be ridiculous to think that when teams only have a select few weeks to train together and work on tactics, with months apart. The fact is though that playing in the world cup is still the most prestigious and sought-after dream for most footballers and playing in friendlies is just part of that journey. Don't really get your point about Ben white and saliba. They are being exlcuded for reasons that don't have anything to due with their clubs. In salibas case he just doesn't fit Deschamps mold yet and we know about Ben white.
And of course, no one would ever consider going hard at an opposing international player who happens to be important for an opposing club. Or maybe just tell their international teammates, who don't play in the same league and maybe not in a crucial title race, to play hard against this opponent. No, that would never ever happen. After all, these are just friendlies. I'm not sure if getting yellow or red cards are even registered for friendlies. Hmmmm
Given the extensive injuries Liverpool have to deal with this season whilst broadly maintaining a push for silverware on 4 fronts NO MANAGER fan or player could have the front to blame injury on any aspect of their season going forwards
Coz PL is the most competitive compared to the other leagues. Other leagues are already wrapped up but PL is still a 3 horse race.
The PL has seen 1 team be champions in 5 of the last 6 seasons, the same to have won the past 3, going on 4. Serie A has had 4 different winners in 4 years. La Liga has had 3 during the same period. Even the French League is more competitive on that front than the pl
@@Contextualiser16-tn8nd thanks for showing everyone you don't understand how basic logic works.
Make a change, doesn't it? And only the top is competitive this season. But between the top and bottom is an absolute joke in England.
@@harrismazari5484 No, he does understand - clearly. The epl has, over the last 6 full seasons, had the least competitive league from top to bottom. Answer me this: Give me a previous 6-year spell in English football where the gap between the top few and the bottom clubs was wider than it was in the last 6 full seasons.
@@jackmurphy6864 mate sorry I do not talk to people with IQs below 70. Its not you, its just a rule i never break. Sorry.
The Premier League is the only top league in Europe with an actual title race in it. Also, Ale is quite happy to shout "Vamos Venezuela" every couple of minutes and ramble on about his meaningless MLS career and stories from the Venezuelan national team that absolutely no one cares about.
Stones is a better holding midfielder than Rice and Casemiro
😂 have a nap lad you’re tired
Stay away from the crack man!
Wait what
How is he better when he was being benched while Casemiro was Winning CL and other 🏆?
@@11robinho07he is talking about now you prat
Note too Ali M, if it wasn't for the EPL and the interest in it in USA, then its doubtful that you'd have such a good job/contract? IMO anyway and certainly you'd be on less money. Fact... So you be thankful pal, and not jealous because you never played in the EPL....
Stones is from barnsley tattoo of oakwell on his leg . No comparison stones the man
John Stones, second only to Harry Maguire
We all know what kind of "injury" Stones got
Not in this case. Stones is actually injury-prone, so it's almost certainly legit.
sotes is injury prone and pep rarely plays him every 3 days. Every time stones plays for England he gets injured kmt
England is a small country that is why they prioritise club over country.
Rhe Venezuelan is correct, who cares about England's team and their hype up footballers, that are being carried in their clubs, bc of the foreign players. None of them are the best on their club teams, so when they are put together, they play n look awful!
You are deluded, Foden, Rice ,Kane,Saka, to name a few, are key players in their club.
@@erickarias3309Foden not the best player in his team. English players are overrated
@@Dancewelll He is a key player, if you think you know more than Guardiola, well, I guess you are just deluded.
@@Dancewelllthis season yes he is best
Love it 😂- way to go Ale!!
Go away why do City get special dispensations. Ive no doubt Walker and Stones will play weekend. Manchester clubs having there own rules. Ryan Giggs after making his Wales debut went a quite criminal 9 years without playing in a single friendly
Obviously wasn't a rant...
When you are top club in the country and get punished for lending your best players only to return injured 😢
Happens to all clubs. Deal with it. Just because there is a title race doesn't mean City get preferential treatment.
Top club?? There are 115 reasons why you shouldn't be considered even relegation club😂😂😂😂. Also injuries happened to united to ,more than city and for a longer duration of time,they are not crying .but it seems city liverpool,Newcastle and arsenal pretend that only their teams suffer from injuries
They can also get injured in club football, ruining it for their nation. What about it?
Pep created Stones into a hybrid. He will go down as the greatest defender of all time
He will never surpass John Terry and Vincent Kompany or Vidic. You seems to be a PL watcher since the inception of man city
You know ball bro. Stones ain't even among the 5 at present. This English hype train is just insane.
@@crazytackler.6427 agreed. He's not even the best defender at city.
Both Stones and Walker will play on Sunday. Fake injury😂 By the way, Rice played 180+ minutes in this two games and they are complaining about City players only.😊
Foden played 180mins to actually*
Tbh I don’t think any of these injuries were real
No one cares about Internationals anymore. Clubs take precedent, it's the highest quality and if the clubs didn't pay their players and commit millions to their care then the International coaches would be crying. Bin it off except for 3 weeks at the end of the season or scrap it entirely.
Do you cry when your kids want to play in premier league not your own. 😢😢😢
he is not injured
Everyone that’s not American or English hates the premier league not the game but the media and the self righteous and grandiosity in which they see themselves. England national team hasn’t won anything in almost 100 years, they claim every other league farmers league yet the top teams in the prem barely feature any English player, Spain has dominated eaurope since forever, even this season with Barcelona being in shambles a rebuilding Madrid after losing its golden generation and the ever persistent athletics Madrid have more teams in the final stages of the champions than the prem. Let’s not talk about europa league with Sevilla Valencia villareal winning most of the last decade.
Too much bullshit you‘ve eaten that you spit now
LOL what a stupid rant.
He's right there's other leagues than premier league . Championship league 1 league 2. Then the rest
@@ktom5262 it’s true. Every international tournament England is favorite and every tournament they have a golden generation yet they never do anything. Barca Madrid and atheltico dominated last decade and they are currently rebuilding yet somehow are still in the final stages of the tournament, Madrid next season is getting mbappe and endrick plus maybe Davies and this season with ost of the squad injured they are still making great progress. I can’t even remember a time when England did anything important… ever or maybe you can remind me
Most of English fans are ignorant and uninformed about anything outside their ugly island, and now PL marketed other ignorant countries, their former colonies, who are just like them (you know who I am talking about), so let them say what they want, the rest of us will enjoy more failures from their national team and the PL money bubble explode in the future
Stones is the next Beckenbauer
😂😂😂😂😂
And Calvin Phillips was the next Pirlo/Gattuso/Kaka hybrid.
Ale Moreno hasn't made a good point in his entire life. You are the people making it about PL by just citing Stones as an example. Camavinga also got injured. These players could do with a rest instead of meaningless friendlies but thats a more nuanced topic of scheduling that you people are too lazy to talk about. Midseason friendlies are pointless and just disrupts momentum.
Stones up there with Beckenbauer. I can go as far and say he is better
😂😂 the English hype machine is just insane
stop drinking peps juice, itll make you delirious
Nobody gives a s**t about International football in England unless they're from the south or their teams never win trophies. I hate the England team, my sole interest is whether players from my club stay fit. Ben White has got all my respect (not an Arsenal fan btw) for putting his club first. England never win a sausage so totally understandable why players would be putting clubs first. Just have world cups and leave it at that. Players are playing too many games. UEFA are motivated solely by money, they couldn't care less about players or fans.
clubs and their managers need to stop moaning you.want top class internationals you know they will be called up for international duty and as for moreno ranting on you can't take anyone seriously on football matters when they've only played in the MLS
How dare u compare a player of 60 years ago like Beckenbauer to John Stones? Stones are miles more complete and technically advanced in terms of tactics. Players of 60 years ago are not good enough to play in the modern game.
Beckenbauer was way more superior to Stones. Stones has shown he is unique, an excellent player. But Beckenbauer was the heart and soul of Germany and Bayern and he literally won it all.
Whole world out their and your talking about this, that's part of the problem.
John Stones more complete player than Maldini
And New York is bigger than Earth too 👍😂😂
Sharon Stones
John Stones is technically more complete than Maldini and Beckenbauer. He also better than overrated Ferdinand and Terry.
What are you smoking man? Maldini?? Have you ever watched this guy play? FYI just watch how folks like Thierry Henry and Carragher talk about him. Moreover, he is not even close to the levels of the giants you mentioned here SMH
Shut up
Stop it. Just stop it
Ale that’s a nice speech go tell that to people who care 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Stones could get injured just getting out of bed.
Thank You Ale! The hero we need.
African cup of nation cost Liverpool quadruple in 22 .There is no doubt that Liverpool will have won everything if Salah and Mane did not have to go to play in Africa cup of nations in that year where they reach the final and particularly Salah have to play 3 extra time games in 10 days and he come back not the same player as hecwas until January and cost Liverpool the title by one point and Champions league final where Mane and Salah look completely physically spend forse against mediocre Real Madrid. NOW LIVERPOOL LOST SALAH FOR 3 MONTHS AND HE IS NOT ON 100 PERCENT AT ALL YET .That cost them again in FA cup where With Salah in his best they will never ever will lose against this Utd team .
Stone is better than stone cold Steve Austin
Ale and the rubbish coming out of his mouth. Why have international friendlies at the peak of the season end? That's a question everyone is asking not only the EPL
Man City players do it every time when they play with Real Madrid they did it last time obviously… And Real Madrid have more injuries then Man City but they don’t wineee like you guys do 😅
Club over country.
Said that international manager will get fired if they lose a friendly. That’s just blatantly wrong. International managers get fired only after tourneys
In the last 50 years I've never seen a more complete center back like John Stones
I like the idea that National teams have sides that play exclusively for them, let all the money they get from filling 80k stadiums TV rights etc and let them build their own team. Then I can ignore them completely and not worry about injuries to my teams players
Correct comment would be: «everybody cares about the premier league. No one gives sh*t about England.»
lol city pr y’all get mad cuz it’s city huh
I only watch the PL. I dont even watch El Classico anymore.
Then you'll learn much less.
4 absolute Whoppers!
Ale Morena - go and find another job. 99% of people watching this are probably English
Stones is better than Beckenbauer. Beckenbauer played 100 years ago...back then football was not advanced like today. Stones bigger, stronger and smarter. Also technically and tactically miles better. Anyone who thinks different is clueless. No disrespect to Beckenbauer in his era he was the best but today's players are better athletes. Even Pep admitted if he played today he wouldn't be good enough as professional football player
What a dumb comment.
mate as a player pep doesn't touch Beckenbauer feet. pep need to shut up. Stone is avarage.
Stones best defender in the last 50 years. If u disagree you have 0 ball knowledge
John Stones best defender in Premier league
pReMieR leAguE?? What's a pReMiEr leAgUe?? All we KNOW is Oil state and American league
I just love this show week in week out. Full of passion n opinions, analysis, etc
Fun fact: he’s called John Stones because his parents liked Bernardo Silva’s dog.
Alejandro Moreno Stephen A Smith wannabe
Yep the Venezuelan version
In terms of consistency Stones is the greatest defender in Premier league history
I've been watching the PL since the 90s and I'm an Arsenal fan and you're wrong. John Terry
Ya he's consistently injured alryt! The only thing consistent about he's career!
Im a Liverpool fan and I say Terry too@@4thGenna.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
He can't defend period