SHOCKING Sony a1 vs Canon R5 Review: Portraits, Sports & Wildlife
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Tony & Chelsea Northrup review the $6,500 full-frame 50 megapixel 30 frames per second (FPS) Sony A1 (sdp.io/a1) camera vs the $4,500 45 megapixel 20 FPS Canon EOS R5 (sdp.io/r5) camera. They test eye detect autofocus for portraits with both humans and dogs. Then, they take wildlife photos to test the bird eye AF. Next, they test two sports scenarios: photographing people running at the camera and motorsports / cars.
The results are genuinely shocking - the Sony A1 frequently blows us away with its speed, but the less expensive Canon R5 also wins many of the comparisons!
"Or a panda" was a great jab lol.
Pandas are vicious and using LOL is pretty irrelevant
Great video - conveys a lot of information while being very entertaining. Better than regular TV these days. As far as Sony Alpha 1 vs Canon R5, I would think the real competition would be the Canon R1 when it comes out... the huge price differential and the fact that the Alpha 1 is Sony's best, while the R5 is priced more like a 5D Mark IV replacement, should indicate that the real match up is yet to come. The fact that the R5 does so well is the "shocking" result of the video. I am really becoming addicted to Tony & Chelsea videos - you are both enjoyable to watch and never fail to bring a smile to me after a long day. Thanks!
"Switching focus priority to Release would increase the fps but decrease the number of shots in focus" => that's actually a big assumption, and it means you didn't test. In reality, you will often find the exact opposite, and for ex. Jordan used 30fps with Release and got all his shots in focus. And what mode was the R5 on? Is there a setting to change that? If not then it's Release by default. Don't you think both cameras should be set at the same settings (or at least very similar) in a fair comparison? Also, it's pretty clear the 70-200GM is the bottleneck in that test. When you test a camera, you don't want to limit it, so you should use the best possible lens, in this case it could have been the 135GM for example. This is true for all tests of any kind. For example when comparing GPU speeds in games, you want to use the fastest possible CPUs as well, in order for the games not to be limited by the CPU.
The difference is that I can pair any GPU with any CPU, so testing them independently makes sense. What if I'm a sports shooter who needs the 70-200 focal length? If I get the a1, I'm stuck with their outdated glass. What the camera can do with other lenses attached is irrelevant in that scenario. I need a camera + 70-200 combination to perform well.
@@youknowwho9247 This wasn't supposed to be a test of 70-200 lenses. Personally I have zero intention of getting a 70-200 (and certainly not the current GM), but am very interested in AF performance. So that part of the comparison was a complete bust.
Hardware Unboxed discovered that Nvidia GPUs perform worse with lower end CPUs than AMD GPUs, because Nvidia GPUs use software scheduling.
@@Knowbody42 Fair enough. But to find that issue you need to test both cards with both types of CPUs. Not one card with a slow and one with a fast CPU.
@@daran0815 It's significant enough that in some cases a 5600 XT outperformed an RTX 3090. You would think that should never happen.
Please test the A1 with a lens that can keep up with the 30 frames per second ie., the 135 1.8 gm and the 24 1.4 gm for instance. These lenses have been built for action. Using the outdated 70-200 2.8 was an unfair test.
unfair test against a 700$ consumer f11 prime? lol
The 70-200 GM can keep up - but he needs to use Wide AF area and set his shutter to Release under settings up achieve the 30 fps. :)
@@hiawrj regardless 70-200 is already an old lens and needs a hardware update.
Agreed - why test the camera with a lens that is not capable??
The 135mm, maybe. But the 24mm? Who IN THE BLUE HELL is using a 24mm lens for sports? But realistically, a sports photographer needs to be using whatever the best 70-200 is on their system. In the case of Sony that happens to be a slightly outdated lens. It's no good to a sports photographer saying something like "well the system was designed for newer lenses like the 24mm f/1.4" when they _need_ the 70-200.
So it looks like both cameras are good at Pixel peeping
“You better hope that stays only with cameras” Chelsea you made my day 😆
Tony was momentarily thinking menage a trois
Chelsea , do you like younger guys? I volunteer to be your side guy , don't worry if fit 😉
that was such a sick burn XD
FATALITY!!! points to Chelsea
Gold
You guys form a very engaging team and though I keep telling myself that I don't want to spend time watching gear stuff, you manage to lure me into watching your videos. Thanks.
I have to say I felt gear could be limiting at times when I had my 5d mark iii, but since I switched to mirrorless my keeping rate skyrocketed. We are at a level where gear doesn't matter anymore !!!
I know Tony was being sarcastic when he said real photographers don't need eye AF, but Chelsea's snappy rebuke was priceless "Ok, well if you don't need it why pay all that money to get it!?" 😂Loving this comparison. Thanks guys!
yes and that is why I'm staying with the Nikon Z cameras and my old Pentax.
I know right? 😂 gotta love Chelsea.
Well he is somehow right, real photographers don’t need eye AF, and to proof that look at the guys that do big budget commercial shoots that goes to billboards, they use medium format that doesn’t have eye af.
@@hofra01 us old timers never used it! But got to admit, with our eyes aging, it is nice to have. Especially with those grandbabies moving around so fast!
@@gosman949 sure it is nice to have, but nowadays people are making it a huge deal. Like shooting with a camera that has better eye AF will make you a better photographer or will make your photos magically better than shooting with a camera that doesn’t have a good eye af.
Tony is not your typical BMW driver. He uses his blinker!
BMW drivers normal drive with blinkers
@@doghouseriley4732 and they spel good
@@fepethepenguin8287 And they are all native english speakers?
These are not blinkers but turn lights. Meaning, they are not designed for blinking, but for telling other drivers on the road that you are about to turn. Maybe this is why people don’t use these, because they don’t know what they are for?
@@Stolas12345 Actually in german the thinks ARE called Blinker
I have been away from your channel for awhile, but you guys really continue to keep it fresh and interesting! Good work!
Wait, hold on. At 3:30 you talk about the sharpness of the Sony lens, using an image that you just used to document how the Sony body front focus. That does not seem reasonable.
Right???
Exactly. The image on the left looks far better imho. I didn't even look at the top until I looked at the images.
@@wildlifebybrianhoule That's why you are w keyboard warrior and they earn a living doing what they do. Every photgrapher will tell you, focus on the iris....................
@@doghouseriley4732 lol. Ok. So I offer my opinion on 2 images and suddenly I’m a keyboard warrior? That’s a wee bit defensively harsh like you took it personally. I’ll give you the benefit of doubt being a stranger and all plus chalk it up to Covid stress. Check out Mark Galer’s video. His shots didn’t seem to catch the eyelashes and nailed the iris - of a 70mph moving greyhound. I’ll wait to see what other reviewers have to say as well.
he is comparing 400 iso canon image to 800 iso sony image off course canon will be ''sharper''
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! Great video with so much useful detail. I think it's time to upgrade to the R5.
"Are they usable frames, or will you just keep knocking your lens off your body?" :)
While he was at 85 mm 1.4 Sony's iso was 800 and canons was 400 and then he says canons image is cleaner and has better image quality. Wtf Tony
They were using auto settings and he said the sony chose better settings to expose the image correctly
@@romanpul he also said they kept the settings the same and commented on the Sony being brighter. So, I think it was a goof-up.
@@chosenideahandle Maybe he meant the same auto setting 😂😂 But it makes actually sense, that the RF needs higher ISO (or lower shutter speed). Despite its otherwise great feature the RF 50mm f1.2 has relatively low transmission for a f1.2. At f1.2 it just gathers as much light as the GM at f1.4. A better comparison would have been to shoot them both wide open
@@romanpul oh ok
Tony & Chelsea are total frauds imo
Thank you, great video (as usual).. Any thoughts on the A1s shortcomings... will this be able to be fixed with firmware updates?
1:50 it seems like the canon eye focuses way further away, and sticks to the eye at 2:20 way better.
how come i actually love the focus to be on the eyelashes more so than the iris🤔
@@f.iph7291 You are wierd? Just saying
The eye-autofocus is amazing, leaves nikon so far behind and even beats the Sony
How to win any argument, by Tony:"Yeah, but I have 30 frames per seconds"
Waw ... amazing review and huge efforts ... very much appreciated dear Tony and Chelsea
Great video, thanks. Could you let us know whether the shutter covering the sensor of the A1 has cured the dust issues you have frequently complained of with your A7R4/3. Also, how does the R5 compare in this respect.
my A9ii covers the sensor when off. It helps. I clean my sensor about every 6 months now, but I usually don't change in the field. If I did, I would turn off the sony, let the shutter close over it, then swap. It covers the sensor after about 5 seconds when you switch off. The A7R4 for whatever reason didn't update the software to do that. Just the A9ii.
Love the straight face when Chelsea says “or a panda” with the small silence afterward XD
or a panda!!!
In the end, it depends on which system you have chosen, after all you have invested in the lenses. Both cameras are great, but because of other advantages (downsampling FF according to APSC etc.) I'm looking forward to the A1 I have ordered! Letztendlich kommet es darauf an für welches System man sich entschieden hat, schließlich hat man ja auch in die Objektive investiert. Beide Kameras sind super, aber wegen auch anderer Vorteile (downsampling FF nach APSC u.a.) ich freue mich auf meine bestellte A1!
I have Canon L glass, 20 years old (not the update V2, or V3 of these L glass) so I wonder how much I would lose with the Canon R5 in this type of dynamic focusing? Also what gear did you use to make the video. Thanks in advance for any information.
for the indoor portraits, what was the metering mode of the Canon?
I like how the two of you can present opposing views like people really should -- without getting personal and resorting to ugliness. Wish people could talk like that about all things that are potentially contentious. You both rock! Thank you, always, for your content.
True Ted, Mass media and social media have really stoked the ugliness in people, it’s like there is an agenda to create division, not unity.
Really interesting, well thought-out review. I think Canon deserves a lot of credit for its comeback and producing a camera that is, comparatively speaking, an excellent value and a serious competitor to Sony's latest and greatest.
Even with only those conversations without camera test, i always learned something from them 👍❤️❤️❤️
What type of camera was used to film the video?
I like how Mark Galer basically told us Tony doesn't know wtf he's doing. Maybe learn how to actually use a camera before reviewing one?
Yeah that was funny, Tony & Chelsea comparing one of Canon's best zooms ever to the 5yo 70-200 GM didn't fool me.
Perhaps Mr Galer should use an R5 before making false claims about it as he clearly doesn't no wtf he's talking about with regard to Canon gear.
@@stevemurnan1702 Not sure wtf you're talking about, as he made no references to the R5, only Tony's inability to properly use the Sony in his review.
@@Atreyas At about 54 minutes he puts a slide up showing the superiority of the A1 vs the R5. The first item on the list claims the R5 suffers from blackout and the A1 doesn't. Go back and watch the video again at around 54 minutes.
@@stevemurnan1702 What other 70-200 2.8 option does sony have? Oh none? That's sonys fault. A camera is only as good as its ecosystem that supports it and user.
Tony, your experience with the accidental release of the lens is one I have experienced using my 100-400 GM and 70-200GM even without using gloves. This is a real scary problem and I am surprised nobody has raised this design flaw. Sony please relocate the lens release button on the other side of their future cameras.
I have had the same issue with my 100-400mm on the a7R3. It was a close call.
Me too while shooting landscape. I've had two close shaves with my 16-35mm.
I'm curious if shooting at f5.6 on the Sony and at f11 on the Canon for wildlife makes any difference at all when it comes to focusing?
I'd like to see you guys compare the two with more prime lenses. I use the Zeiss Batis 40mm f2 and Batis 85mm f1.8 (on an A7III) at weddings all the time and I always get auto eye focus. I know that there's several reasons why the A7III would be different, but it'd be interesting to see the A1 go against the Canon with faster and more up to date lenses. Thank you both for putting these videos together all the time. Your videos were such a great resource when I was first starting to learn a few years ago.
16:45 what I see behind me in my nightmares when tony is chasing me to sell all my gear at KEH
Just come from Mark Galer's excellent review of the A1, someone who actually knows how to set up this camera and use it correctly.
The man that get's paid in kind by Sony and was asked to make the video. He also compared the A1 to the R5 and clearly hasn't ever picked an R5 judging by his claims of blackout etc. He also fails to mention where the R5 is superior to the A1 and the huge price difference.
@@stevemurnan1702 Where is it superior? I would like to know (at least what you think?). The fact that the R5 can't record to both cards simultaneously is a deal breaker for me. I need the security of redundant content recording in case something happens. But I would like to know what you think?
This is the guy who gets a Sony wage cheque?
@@cogmission1 IBIS 5.5 stops vs 8, resolution of rear screen and a fully articulated rear screen to name a few. The jury is out on the eye AF atm but in all the videos I've seen it's no better than the R5 and some are saying worse. Until full independent tests have been carried out on the A1 there's a lot of second guessing sensationalist crap floating around. However Mr Galer's comparison with the $3000 cheaper R5 clearly states the R5 has blackout. The guy's a hypocrite taking expensive goods off of Sony for free then claiming he's not affiliated to Sony. He produces a video at Sony's request (as they don't like the bad press) to set the record straight then makes false claims about the R5. The R5 can record to both cards simultaneously btw. I do it frequently and you can download the manual to check if you are concerned.
@@stevemurnan1702 Thank you for your sober response. (That’s genuine) For conclusive evidence of the A1’s AF capability, put this into KZheads search - it will end all confusion... (if you’re interested) “Sony A1 new bird eye AF: Is it really work? A1+200-600G”
Great comparison video! Love your channel! Thanks you two! Cheers!
Hi Tony& Chelsea: any chance you can share canon R5 focus settings ( for sport mode, person running toward camera) my R5 focus not very good when Bridesmaids and groomsmen running. Not sure if my settings is wrong or my camera faulty. Thank you so much
Very informative. Thank you! The A1 costs more than fifty percent more, but is still beaten soundly. Can you do video as well?
Thanks for the review, but I would be much more interested in how the a1 compares to the a9II and a7RIV since there is no chance I will sell my $40k+ of Sony lenses. Just a suggestion. Also, the Sony 85/1.4 is probably the worst lens to use if you want to see what the a1 can actually do. Even Sony doesn't doesn't put the 85/1.4 in the "top tier" lenses for the a1.
They used the 70-200 f/2.8 and 600 f/4 in the actual sports and wildlife tests.
Yeah they looked like fools in the last video by using the slowest GM lens (the 85) to test the 30 FPS and on this video how did they cripple the camera?.. hey let’s put a teleconverter on it to slow it down with pre-production firmware that may not even be compatible with the teleconverter yet.... bonus points for making the lens disconnect on that newer big a7R IV grip size that your fingers normally don’t even wrap all the way around the front.. you’d have to try hard to hit that disconnect button. They’re definitely our special breed of Connecticut idiots
+1 on using the Sony 85/1.4
@@johnsoncityaerialphotograp7201 They're just doing their thing. And more information is always good. I have been hoping for a "hi-megapixel a9," so if the a1 can match, or improve on, the AF performance of the a9 at 50MP and 20+ fps, I will be happy.
@@youknowwho9247 Yep. That's a good thing. The 70-200 is due for an upgrade but still a great lens. For close-up sports, I would be tempted to try the 135/1.8 because it is so sharp and fast.
Have Sony and/or Canon released new firmware for the a1 and R5 since this was done? If so, any AF improvement in the Sony a1 in particular? Sounds like a revisit would be interesting if there have been any changes.
Canon yeah. Several
Can you go into s35 mode in 4k120??? I use it all the time on my a7iii, and need it to work the same way in the A1 in any 4k mode, especially 4k120
Yeah... 30fps if you can keep the lens on. Awesome winter hat Chelsea!
... If you can keep the lens on... That's hilarious 😂.
My R5 keeps on sounding AMAZING and the best choice I made so far
I can relate also
Until you realize you have no redundant recording and your CF card failed... You can just tell your client "Oops!" :-)
@@cogmission1 what? Lol what are you talking about dude? I said R5 not Z7 🤣 i have redundant on my SD And if you mean video.. very little people need to record on dual cards.. i shot with a Z6/7 for 2 years on one card and had never had an issue or problem.. lmao! Dude i am sad for your negativity hahah
@@moealyasini2784 Be sad for yourself. Your luck will run out and you'll ruin some poor client's life. Do what you need to do.
@@cogmission1 are u serious?! I've been shooting for years now and never had this issues. so I'm not gonna sell my r5 just for video redundancy
very helpful video as usual.. in this video at time stamp 7.36 to 7.45 the backroad blur looks very nice and creamy.. can you please share what camera and lens did you use to achieve this.. Thanks.
i have a question: which is the best CFexpress- and SD-card i could use for the canon R5??? thanks for your help!!!
6:25 reminds me of what Chris Niccolls from DPReview said when he reviewed the Z6II: So, animal eye detect doesn't work on Black Cows with black eyes heavily backlight by the sun, disappointed!"
Yep, and the Canon was focusing on the dog's nose!
Best promo for the R5 sofar! Congrats to you Northrups! The fact that you use the outdated Sony 70-200 instead of the real sport lens Sony has,100-400 GM shows the case.....
Great comparison, and obviously a lot of effort put into this. Loved the non-serious subjective banter, it balanced well with your objective thoughts after each test :)
Does anyone know if this has automatic focus bracketing? It should do at this price. If it's already in the video can you tell me at what point please. I haven't seen the whole thing.
For the price eventually, gotta love the R5 🖤
Hmm, i'm not actually that convinced that Sony actually front focused on the first comparison. It seems to me like Sony shot simply has slightly deeper dof. It looks like that when you compare a spot that is slightly "deeper" in the photo than the eyeball, look at the conjunctiva on both shots, it looks pretty much in the same sharpness. Actually the Canon shot looks ever so slightly blurred, perhaps it is simply the motion blur. Also no shit that the photo was brighter, it was ISO 800 vs 400 :P But i guess you meant that the auto iso was better on Sony?
It does look like the Canon photo has motion blur. They said the difference in exposure is because of the automatic metering (did not specify whether that was Av, Tv, P, A or only auto-ISO), which Canon kept getting wrong. I'd like to know what metering mode each camera was in since I've ever found either Sony or Canon to struggle with backlighting + a dark subject when focus-linked spot metering is used.
@@sebastianmatthews1663 yeah, same for me. I'm using personally old A7 II and to be honest auto exposure is trash, really inconsistent.
Awesome video! You two are great. Thank you for fun and informative content.
Both great cameras. With the R5 Canon took a little while to release a firmware update to fix a few early issues and I expect Sony will do the same. Beta testing is never the same as full real world use. I would say I have been a Sony user for years and currently have the a9i and a7riv and have never accidentally released the lens even when using a long wildlife lens with teleconverters attached.
I switched from Canon to Nikon a few years ago and was happy with the decision at the time. Let's be honest though, Canon is killing it now with the R5 and R6.
Well they are killing it with great but big heavy lenses . Compactness goes to Sony
Never underestimate the sensors of Sony (and Nikon). The original R is very poor in terms of sensor performance. I own one, it is not good. My 12 year old 5d mk 2 has a nicer quality.
Nothing stops you from switching back and forth or using multiple systems. It’s not like you are married to any of these camera systems, you owe them no loyalty.
@@phelanwolf6747 Sure, as long as $ isn't a factor. That's an expensive approach.
@@joeblack4026 Compactness when you want to be a professional? Glass all the way.
I see that boy Jared Polin at 15:50 timeline...😂😂😂😂😂what camera he using for that sport game?
Can I ask, does the teleconverter affect the focus speed?
Love these types of videos thr both of you do. Thank you.
I want to see a rolling shutter test. The faster readout electronic shutter is the defining feature of the A1. Some reviewers are saying that you can just leave the A1 on electronic shutter for everything.
You need to take the entire testing as a whole not just one specific aspect. Until we get an all round comprehensive test no one can really make any solid judgement on the A1. We know there's next to no rolling shutter on ES already but what use is that when the AF isn't as good as a competitors camera that's 40% cheaper?
Haha see Fro on the sidelines when Tony talks about shooting sports
And the quick pull away?
Thanks for the video. I used Canon SLRs for years and have a large assortment of EF glass including many good L series zooms and primes. For the last few years I have been using Sony full frame cameras including the A9 and A7R IV. At this point, I also have a pretty wide assortment of Sony lenses. I was considering buying the Sony A1 but now I am wondering if maybe buying a Canon R5 and using my EF glass with a canon adapter would be a good choice. Anyone have experience with the autofocus accuracy and speed of EF lenses on the R5. Accurate eye autofocus is important to me since it makes fast glass far more useful. I like to shoot portraits but also action like surfers and birds in flight.
Love the banter and competitive nature of you two. Very entertaining! Oh - your camera info is top notch too!
I'll probably never buy these cameras, but I love watching videos about them!
@@drblakeslovick4607 I don’t have any problem with him nitpicking any of the latest gear. They’re all fantastic, but are bound to have flaws. Knowing exactly what the flaws are is useful if you’re considering purchasing something this expensive.
@@drblakeslovick4607 show us where Tony hurt you
I especially love videos from these two. No offense to other reviewers, but Tony shows a high level of intelligence in his reviews, and Chelsea is hands-down the best photography personality on YT.
@@drblakeslovick4607 which has destroyed our industry mediocre photographers power-hungry for social media Fame have put down day rates to lower than 20 years ago.. meanwhile your camera companies are making billions Canon doesn't care one bit
You won't ever need to buy them. In 5 years time, these same specs with be in the Sony a7-5 and Canon R6-3. Imagine $2,500 bodies with these specs in 5 years. The A1 is showing us that the next generation of evolution cameras is Electronic sensors now thus removing mechanical shutters, their cost, and their limits.
So it seems to me, taking into account price and lenses, the Canon won this thing hands down
But did you consider price OF lenses as well?
The lenses are the most important piece too.
To achieve good quality picture at 600 MM, the Sony A1/200-600mm Lens combo is the cheapest way to get that. Canon need to use its 600 mm prime lens on R5.
@@meynp4337 Yup Canon R5 has an advantage because its been in the market for longer. Also the Sony A1 needs lens updates.
also the Tamron 70-180 for E mount is a better comparison
What gear did you use to shoot this video and what settings did you have. I have tried to get this type of quality from my videos with zero success so far. Thank you
How are you still standing after that impression. 😂😂
Wow. It's clear how much effort went into this. Well done.
yeah! having to include the BMW in every video makes me wonder if it is a tax write off
Hi Brother, have a nice day. Could u tell me the difference between FujiFilm gfx 100s VS gfx 50s ll VS Sony a1and Which one is good? Thanks in Advance.
Loved this review, it was so charming, entertaining, and informative.
In terms of animal eye AF, I leave my A9 in either wide or expand flexible spot med tracking and my eye hit rate is almost 100%. It will first find the body, then head and then focus on eye very quickly. I'm sure the A1 would work even faster in these modes? I've even managed to get sharp focus on an animal in the brush with one eye obscured and sharp focus on the other eye.
Yea, Tony is not doing any of the tests properly. :(
I just turn on the animal eye auto focus on my R5 and get the same results!
David Pinkus. Me too. First shot of a fox sitting in the open and facing me. Locked on to the left eye immediately at 45 metres. Fox then sat behind a bush, partially obscuring the left eye. Camera still locked on immediately at a distance of 48 metres (I used manual focus after each shot to determine the distance). I am really impressed with Sony animal eyeAF.
@@petedraper5185 Yeah, they're getting close to Canon. Quite a bit ways to go though.
As a panda owner I was sold on the Canon panda AF.
May be a dumb question (amateur here) but which requires the least post processing work for portraits? I currently shoot with the Canon 6d but I’m planning to upgrade this year, thanks
after doing a big kayak competion shoot this week end with a9 and sony 70-200 gm I noticed to my surprise that for some reason i was getting more eye confirmation locks in viewfinder at f4 than f2.8 and from farther away.. I'd have to check my setting to see if I'm actually stepping down in the viewfinder mode or just seeing f2.8 but just looking thru it was obvious for me to notice since i was getting close to none at f2.8 et almost all at f4..I know this makes no sense, will experiment some more
Aren't those 30fps only in compresed raw? Because if so, those extra 10frames are just kinda flex.
Most pro sport photographers shoot in jpeg so for them the extra 10fps should be very helpful. With that said. I certainly would like to see a proper detailed comparison between compressed and uncompressed raw. I did it myself with my a7r4 and was hard pressed to see a difference in Capture One so I now always shoot at compressed to save space.
Yeah, something feels a bit off here, though. Mark Galer has been getting 30 FPS shooting fast action in a variety of types with absolutely no issue whatsoever. The 70-200 and 85 GM are going to be replaced, too. The eye AF focusing on the eye lashes is interesting, though.
The R5 was focusing on the dog's nose! :-). These things happen - probably one isn't better than the other for AF?
I'm interested in whether the firmware update made the eye auto focus better on the A1.
Colours and exposition seem weird on the R5. Could you do a comparison of the pictures (with and without correction) on Lightroom when it will be possible? Does it change something on the shutter speed one has to use?
I'm calling it: Chelsea wins the internet this week with 'poly-camerous'! PS - interesting results concerning autofocus too, I've noticed more misses than I'd have expected with the A1 as well, but wondered if it was my lens selection at fault.
As a polyamorous AND poly-camerous person myself, I cannot overstate how much that made my day. :D
I'm both poly-camerous and polyamorous - IN PRINCIPLE. In practice, I'm mono-camerous and single! I'd like to be poly-camerous, but my bank account won't let me. I'd also like to be polyamorous, but nobody'll let me. Ho-hum. At least I have my A7RIV.
Or maybe you could learn how to do some manual focus stop being a lazy spray and prayer
Gender neutral and identity politics are initiation in to artificial intelligence. And I'm allowed to say that
@Gus Erland What the hell is this ridiculous misogynistic rant about? Chelsea made a joke - about cameras FFS. There's no reason to think she's actually interested in polyamory. And I don't think you know either Tony or Chelsea at all well.
That R5 locks on that eye like a gazelle.
I'd love to see how older gear like the Samsung NX1 / NX500 holds up for aspiring photographers on a tight budget (I have a nx1 myself and with the "S" lenses it will cost me a lot to change systems but I'm honestly unsure if I'll gain much at all)...
When mentioning the eye and iris (@ around 3 minutes) being sharper with the Canon R% versus Sony A1 I am thinking neither look good. Are you/we comparing which looks less washed out or whatever? Did you zoom to 1 to 1 ratio on your photo software for this? I do not know about you all but almost every time I view photos at 1 to 1 ratio or greater nothing in the photo I took looks okay at that magnification. You mentioned matching the settings. The settings are not matched if your labeling is correct. The Sony A1 is at ISO 800 and Canon R5 is at ISO 400. Did you or you all consider trying to use a higher F Stop number to see what happens with previously mentioned. Yes I realize a higher F Stop number would most likely change the ISO and shutter speed. thank you
You two look like you genuinely enjoy each other.
I'm switching to Sony from Panasonic now and I'll get a7Siii for videos and a7Riv with 61MP for photos... I think thats the best setup for now and I'lll pay 6000$ for both of those cameras instead of 6500$ for a1 only.... What do you guys think?? Please correct me if I'm wrong... My first lenses will be 70-200, 16-35mm and some prime len 1.4 (probably 24 or 34mm) All G master. I know its 10K$ out of pocket but whats better I can get for 10K$ now?!
Get Nikon. Less expensive. MUCH better ergonomics and menus. AF that actually HITS and doesnt frontfocus... AND OMG Them Z-lenses. They're the best.
You can’t ever say what’s better unless you know what’s your uses. But overall, I mean, that’s an overall killer setup for almost any use your gonna do. I would only recommend or add lenses to that kit depending on the shots you need.
Congratulations! The Sony 16-35 F 2.8 GM is one of the finest zoom lenses I´ve ever used, you will enjoy it! The 70-200 F 2.8 GM is nice (some are better), I hope for the Sony 16mm F 1.8 GM for Milky Way and aurora photography 🤩
Hard to say. Here’s the case for A1: Advantage of A1 is its speed. It has more powerful processing, which means it is also more future-proof. There’s lot more chance that autofocus will get continuously updated. A7Riv might get replaced with A7Rv soon and iv will stop getting updated. Also, with SDK being opened up, there’s more chance A1 will get some computational photography upgrades. The A1 sensor might have advantages when taking pics of Aurora Borealis and Astrophotography. Sports and wildlife should also favor A1. 8k video is probably useless and shouldn’t be a deciding factor, but A1’s oversampling 4K video might be of interest. The $500 difference is nothing once you factor in lenses. Hope it helps.
Please can you share how you have set your Canon R5 up for wildlife photography? AF Case settings etc, shutter mode etc.
Hi, could you please help me decide. If I shoot mostly video but sometimes I want to do a little bit of photography, would it be better to have one SONY A7s3 and one SONY A7R4? Or would it be better to just have SONY A1?
comparing 2 images for "sharpness" taken at different ISO's zooming in on focus area on one and out of focus area on the other?. WTF testing is this?
The kind that tries to match the images because even if you use the same camera with different firmware like I have before, it never matches the exposure of one another, let alone imagine with completely different cameras from different brands. Study more, then try complaining again on people who really knows what they are doing.
And put a times converter on the Sony and compare with Canon then shoot at a slow shutter speed! Waiting for expert wildlife photographers Mark Smiths A1 review he knows how to shoot wildlife. Camera labs Gordon Laing did a more controlled comparison of the 2 cameras said they were both good but zooming in the Sony was better. They don’t to have comparable lenses to test
@@wolfiesynergymusic people that know what they are doing? You're aware that these 2 are youtubers? Not photographers right?
I'll be interested to see Mark Galer's full review.
@@cbflazaro They know and do what the average photographer needs to know to get better, and even though I'm extremely empiric regarding specs (not meaning actual camera specs but overall) I found this comparison extremely compelling. I'm rocking a 6D, pretty old camera btw, gonna switch to an A7R iiii soon. I would search for another KZheadr that knows better, but I'm not some huge star or an olimpics photographer (at least for now) I'm just realistic.
15:50 Wild 'Fro spotted!
And me spotted finally your comment about 'Fro. Almost did quit my search but this finding was huge Win for a J.P. fan like me! :D Also thinking editor of this video put that moment of the clip for reason XD
would be nice to see the A1 AF performance with the somewhat newer Sony lenses such as 135/1.8, 24/1.4, 35/1.4, 12-24/2.8. The 85/1.4 and the 70-200 are the oldest GM lenses you can find on the market.
That portrait autofocus test might've been hampered by the Sony 85 GM - known to be okay at autofocus at best. Would be interesting to see the outcome if out was swapped out for the newer Sigma 85 1.4 DN.
I like how he says “only 20 FPS” 😂
20 FPS is nothing to sneeze at. I don’t know of a sport shooter who would be upset at that rate
Here’s me with my 3fps A7ii, what is life with 20
@@benjaminthorpe7990 wish I knew. My Eos R doesn’t get close
@@rtyler1869 i totally agree
My D800 does 4 lol. Anything above 7 feels exotic to me
6:39 Price was never been significant drawback for you guys when Canon R5 was expansive that Sony or Nikon. But now when a1 is expensive than r5, it's turn out that it's drawback :)
Could someone help me out here?? If you watch the video at 12:20….Tony your saying when using the 30fps mode the crow looks blurry, isn’t that because your shutter speed is 1/250??? I can see the camera settings in the top left corner of the screen. Your shooting flying subject’s shouldn’t your shutter be at a minimum of 1/2000 and above???
Great follow up of last weeks R5 vs a1 primer! As a wildlife photographer currently using A7R4 I shure am tempted by the R5’s superior animal AF algorithms and better IBIS of the R5! Asking for input on what to test? : Battery life if I may ...and real world photography IBIS with long primes. When can we expect native RF superpteles do you think ?
Are you aware of bird photographer Mark Smith? He captures astoundingly good images with the A9 and the same model you have.
Tony and Chelsea, You guys do such a great job. I've been looking forward to this video. Thank you for your hard work and professional reporting. I'm looking forward to more A1 content. Hook-em horns!
Well at least I know Canon has caught up with Sony Autofocus, thats the only thing I needed to hear
About the issue with unintentionally pressing the lens release on the Sony - I've never had this problem with my A7RIV but in any case, I always attach a camera strap to my telephoto lens - which means I'm less likely to accidentally drop it when changing lenses. Also, it protects the camera from taking the full weight of a heavy lens, pulling down on the lens mount.
This is such a great video! I really enjoyed it. Thank you!
Thanks for a great video. Already in the Sony ecosystem and have pre-ordered the a1. A camera I can take birding and crop plus record video with the dynamic range of the a7s iii (and S-cinetone) is worth it for me.
Not jumping on board at this stage , have the A9 and A7r4 so happy with that combo at the moment. Do not shoot video and no requirements for super fast transfer of files, if they introduce a stills only version for at least 40% off the current price I will be all over it like a cheap suite.
just make sure you go out shooting with a friend who has a R5, you might be embarrased lol
own and r6 and still have been waiting for this
8:30 the sony 'searches' a little more - what did you have the sensitivity at? Results can vary for different subjects if you're at 5, 3 or 1 (the latter called locked on).
Is it fair to compare focusing capability on an F11 Canon lens with more than twice as much depth of field as your mahoosive Sony lens?
"...or a panda." 20 point slap down for Chelsea. 😊