Canon v. Sony v. Nikon: Battle of the Brands

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Tony and Chelsea Northrup discuss which caemra brands are thriving, who is winning the camera race, and what cameras and innovations are putting them on top or the bottom.

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    @TonyAndChelsea@TonyAndChelsea9 ай бұрын
    • Z30 has great focus in most situations. Nikon all the way. Sorry to hear you are sucked in to the Sony hype, where you have to spend $2000 each year for a new camera.

      @petersuvara@petersuvara8 ай бұрын
  • If I pay too much attention to the pros and cons of different brands of cameras, it will become very difficult to choose. But if I focus on photography itself, It becomes easier to choose. An excellent photographer can take excellent photos with any brand of camera, it’s just a difference in the feeling of using it, and the results are not too different.

    @manaphyex3964@manaphyex39649 ай бұрын
    • So what did you choose?

      @reheapification2@reheapification29 ай бұрын
    • @@reheapification2 There is so much competition for full frame, not only does it make me want to switch to new bodies, but also new expensive lenses. Money matters for non-professional photographers. So I chose APS-C FUJIFILM, because it makes me focus more on the photography itself.

      @manaphyex3964@manaphyex39649 ай бұрын
    • Well said…cameras don’t take good pictures, photographers do

      @westcoasthype619@westcoasthype6199 ай бұрын
    • Agreed, this is why I went with Nikon, because they are just so much more accessible and useable.

      @petersuvara@petersuvara9 ай бұрын
    • @@westcoasthype619 I tried taking a good picture without a camera. It went poorly... Then with a great subject and good light in front of me, I did very little and the camera took a great picture. We're less important than everyone wants to believe.

      @UnconventionalReasoning@UnconventionalReasoning9 ай бұрын
  • Still a massive Nikon fan... the Z6ii is a phenomenal wedding camera and the Z8 is even better though I want the abilities of the Z8 in a Z6ii body and megapixel count. That'd be perfect for me. Good stuff guys. You are right in what you say about Sony seeming to place more kudos in delivering what the photographic community need / want. It's just a shame that their flaws are kinda looked over often... it's when you go into a Sony group on Facebook and realise all the things that annoy you about one brand are still there in Sony cameras, some to a lesser degree and then other things that you don't have an issue with using your camera drives Sony users nuts... As you have said many times, there is no perfect camera and no do it all brand. For me, Nikon still does the greatest amount of better stuff... errr better. lol. Keep em coming though, we can't all be the same.

    @PaulCornish@PaulCornish9 ай бұрын
    • Yup I have Fuji and Nikon mirrorless. Love them both.

      @youssefhamidi8152@youssefhamidi81526 ай бұрын
  • I have all 3 brands. Short story: you can do great photos with any of them! If that isn't the case you might be the problem. All camera brands have plusses and minusses.

    @Mr_Ev1@Mr_Ev19 ай бұрын
  • I used used my Nikon D5100 for almost 10 years and had been happy with it. However, I found 3 new Nikon Z lenses that were at a deep discount at my electronic store earlier this year, I couldn't refuse them. They were the 28-75mm f2.8, the 14-30mm f4, and the 105mm f2.8. Each lens had a discount between $600-$700 off. Then I found the Nikon Z5 online in mint condition for $760 and the 50mm f1.8 that was also on a discount. Does Nikon have the better AF system over Sony or Canon, no. Am I able to get the shots I want with this camera? Yes. Their AF system is still very good to use. Nikon earned the no. 3 spot, but I see they will continue to improve their AF systems to at least be on par with Sony and Canon. I want all three companies to continue to out-perform each other's cameras.

    @izziereal2010@izziereal20109 ай бұрын
    • The thing is: by the time Nikon caught up (to the current level of the competition) they will have moved on up further still.

      @GeertDelmulle@GeertDelmulle9 ай бұрын
    • there will soon be nowhere to move up further in the AF departement, all 3 brands are very close to that already. what I see happening is their UI/UX and Apps as well as phone features coming from the Sony phones which Canon and Nikon simply won't be able to match.@@GeertDelmulle

      @nevensky@nevensky9 ай бұрын
    • @@nevensky As long Canon and Nikon will develop apps for android and apple OS it won't be a problem. In 99% of the cases (I guess) it's to be able to get some photo's or video's just taken on the MILC, transfer and edit on the smartphone or tablet and send it to clients for reviewing purpuses or put it on social media for MarCom purposes.

      @jorismaasvisuals@jorismaasvisuals9 ай бұрын
    • It’s not the AF that pushed me away from Nikon, or even their somewhat duller colours. But if you give me a low res EVF on a Z7II, you’ve lost me.

      @marctannenbaum9260@marctannenbaum92607 ай бұрын
  • Well, I just switched from my D850 to the R5 and already regret doing so with the 100-500 Canon costing twice as much as the 180-600 by Nikon. I am already calculating how much money I would love switching back to get the Z8 I waited for several years just to give up several months before it finally got announced.

    @NicolasAlexanderOtto@NicolasAlexanderOtto9 ай бұрын
    • I switched from D750 to R6 II, so I feel you. The D750 has better shadow recovery and better screen, although lower resolution. I just want to have Nikon again.. good priced f 1.8s and the 180-600 so much better value, third party lenses now, even buying Z8 will be cheaper in the long run, because great lenses will be priced good and you will save from them.

      @grom5756@grom57569 ай бұрын
    • Yes just think how many sales Nikon would make and how many users they woudl keep if they had the Z6iii and Z7iii ot now! Not everyone can afford a Z8 (or wants that size)

      @Digmen1@Digmen18 ай бұрын
    • I mean, that's basically what you get when you let others (influencers) lure you into changing brands. Sometimes, your best bet is to just turn off the external noise and just focus on taking photographs while remaining patient for your next camera. I've always doubted Canon, Sony, and now Fuji as well. They're all good brands in their own right, except for Sony, as I truly hate Sony cameras to the core ever since I tested an A7II. That camera felt like a goddamn toy with the most awful ergonomics and menu layout. Nikon will always be my one and only camera brand. It's the brand I learned photography on, and their cameras brought me an immense amount of joy ever since I first held one in my hand. Some people are just too eager to jump ships these days, for some reason. As if they need to upgrade their gear every other year. And if a camera isn't perfect in every area, they toss it in a garbage bin, never to gaze upon it again. It's so unfortunate, silly, and gluttonous. Anyway, having said all that, I hope you do find a camera that will satisfy your needs.

      @virtualwarp@virtualwarp7 ай бұрын
  • Nikon was so popular when I first started in the early 70's because every lens fit every Nikon camera body. You could travel anywhere in the world pick up a Nikkor lens and you were guaranteed it would bolt on. Canon kept swapping lens mounts. It was vital if you needed to travel light and have loan gear available when you arrived. I retired a few years back, but stuck with Nikon for decades and swear by them.

    @glenmale1748@glenmale17487 ай бұрын
  • I said it on the first video I ever watched, where Tony took a piece of glass to a nifty fifty to prove a few scratches won't kill a lens; I watch you two because of your INTEGRITY. Don't give a flying leap what all the naysayers go on about, THAT shows through over and over again. That is what keeps me coming back. Kudos.

    @analogoutdoors@analogoutdoors9 ай бұрын
  • I have Nikon Z6 ii and I love this camera for its feel, build and picture quality. Yeah it struggles a lot sometimes for focus but I can live with that. If I am spending this much amount of money I need a better build camera which will last for years. I had a Canon 1100D but it stopped working merely in 3 years or so but my D7200 was amazing it just never gave up. If you will come to India, in Mumbai you will find the photographers that work at few popular locations such as Gate way of India, Hajiali dargah, they use Nikon because it handles moisture better and it does not give up on them. And boy the camera feeling is another level with Nikon. I just love these Nikon cameras. ❤ If we are ranking cameras based on sales, then I think it's not the way to go, we should rank based on their build, quality materials used, picture quality, lenses availability, focus, FPSs etc. Sales cannot decide which one is better, as in India we call something is "Bhedchal" which is everyone follows someone else to buy something. And that raises their sales. 🙂

    @TechnologyAndAutomotive@TechnologyAndAutomotive9 ай бұрын
  • I have a lot of Canon EF lenses, but I am seriously thinking about switching to the Panasonic S5 II, as with an adapter all Canon EF lenses work as well as native lenses. So I would keep my Canon EF 100-400 II for example, but it would get even better because of the IS and the very good autofocus in the Panasonic S5 II.

    @skyscraperfan@skyscraperfan9 ай бұрын
  • I clearly qualify as a Nikon loyalist, and until the Z8 introduction a DSLR holdout. Now I’ve created a spreadsheet mapping out my F to Z transition plan. Your overview of the major brands, where they’ve been and where they are going was illuminating, especially for one who for convenience if nothing else ignored the other brands. I’m reminded of how much I loved using my OM-1 kit of decades ago. Recently my granddaughter, shopping for a film body, bought a vintage OM-1. She said it just spoke to her. She was unaware of my history with that camera. For all the tech specs and test reports, in the end our choices have more to do with love than logic.

    @michaelmckeag960@michaelmckeag9607 ай бұрын
    • That's a cool bit about your granddaughter and her camera choice. I bet that made for a q special feeling and memory.

      @jordanbabcock9349@jordanbabcock93494 ай бұрын
  • You just “kinda” implied Nikon is putting out stuff to be putting it out to keep “the stream” going without big updates. Nikon has made the biggest updates compared to previous iterations. Sony on the other hand does do that . They put out cameras more often with less upgrades. As for the OM and 20mp check and see what the pixel pitch is then compare that to say maybe 60mp ff. Enough said

    @smallbatchsessions6892@smallbatchsessions68929 ай бұрын
  • I am a hobbyist. I originally shot Olympus (film) in the early 80's. Then shot Nikon, film, then on to Canon T3i. I've been shooting Canon for 15+ years. I own an R5, and my retirement gift to me was a nice assortment of RF glass. I am in my 60's and will purchase 1 more camera. Originally was waiting for R5II or R1. I shoot Landscape, travel and some wildlife and portraits. I am now considering Leica Q2 or Q3 to use for travel and everday shooting. Will keep my R5 and most glass. Will decide in the next 6 months. Thanks for your video.

    @susanmeyer8885@susanmeyer88859 ай бұрын
  • Selling Sony or Canon for Nikon? Already sold my Sony A7IV after having it six months. Ergonomics plain and simple. Just couldn’t get used to it. My older LUMIX G9 M43 is a better handling and user experience. Migrating to Nikon system and Z8 (price to performance right where it appeals most to me) by end of year.

    @tonydavid7950@tonydavid79508 ай бұрын
  • Nikons mistake was not immediately jumping into mirrorless once Sony gained some traction. I own a few older Nikon cameras and Nikon glass. Their older cameras had amazing image quality sooc. They let Sony progress while Nikon gave up a lot of customers to Sony and canon. If they had just went all in as fast as possible the. I think they would’ve been tied or even higher than Sony. What choice did Nikon shooters have after the d850 and the d6? Most people could see that dslrs were dead when Sony gained a lot of traction and canon followed. It’s just too bad that Nikon made that mistake. They were one of my favorite camera brands. Now I’ve moved into the Sony ecosystem and it doesn’t make sense for me to go back.

    @mrwashur1991@mrwashur19919 ай бұрын
    • Going al in is pretty risky as a business tho?

      @meespo3354@meespo33548 ай бұрын
    • They probably did not have the ressources to develop a competitve mirrorless system a fast as Sony did.

      @christofabt8958@christofabt89588 ай бұрын
  • I was all about Pentax for years…then they just kind of slipped away. So, I had to make a change…I chose Sony. Started with A73, loved it….but started getting more into video so I did upgrade to A74…and love it! I have a 24-105 G and a 100-400 GM for lenses. So, never used Canon or Nikon so I can’t make any comparison…all I can say, I love have loved my Sony Cameras.

    @SilverVagabonds@SilverVagabonds9 ай бұрын
  • Always dreaming of getting a new camera! Interesting to see these brands battle it out by coming out with great updates and features. I don't think you can go wrong with any of these brands. Of course, in the end it's the skill of the photographer that is most important. Thanks for a great discussion.

    @zenfolio@zenfolio9 ай бұрын
  • This is a great show. So much valuable information. I want to know if it’s possible to get the Leica dynamic range and detail in a portrait when using a Sony a7 III?

    @shelleytaylor7007@shelleytaylor70077 ай бұрын
  • Chelsea, I have to agree with you concerning the AE-1, my first SLR was a AE-1 Program, so I am a bit bias towards it, but I just love them. My dad bought it new, and when he got his EOS-3, I took it over from him.

    @LeonKotze70@LeonKotze709 ай бұрын
  • For my style, OM-1 / Olympus / MFT all the way. No need for more MP since I almost never crop any image. Love the overall compact form-factor. Image quality is great and the OM-1 has plenty of high-level specs. Also, since OM Systems is pitching the camera as an outdoor / wildlife / adventure camera, does not mean you cannot use it for different styles… Feels like you made quite a quick conclusion on this system without real substantiation. I think anno 2023 this system is still very relevant and deserves a spot next to the ‘big guys’, since it is providing quite an unique overall solution including a great range of high quality lenses. Just my humble opinion.

    @elsenOP@elsenOP9 ай бұрын
    • I can confidently say that using MFT lenses for wildlife is the closest we're getting to being able to do street photography but for animals.

      @AguilaDeOnix85@AguilaDeOnix859 ай бұрын
    • Issue is how many customers is into the system to keep massive R&D costs. Tony and Chelsea said you do not see much innovation and new releases. Only OM-1, what is the new body they release with the newest tech in different pricepoint? What Tony and Chelsea said is true. OM-5 was a recycle of older tech. It is not encouraging. They have a point about OM is not focusing on media creation and to much about crop factor.

      @angeloplayforone@angeloplayforone9 ай бұрын
    • My Olys are my fun cameras! Such great features. Sony is my workhorse.

      @carolsantulis1990@carolsantulis19908 ай бұрын
    • @@carolsantulis1990 This is the biggest problem for the m43 manufacturers. m43 is seen as a secondary system, hence having less sales so less R&D. I read that the workfoce of Olympus Digital department went from 6000 employees to 2000 employees when sold and now called OM System. OM System revenue is only 200 million dollars.

      @angeloplayforone@angeloplayforone8 ай бұрын
    • Every one of their videos I see OM users getting upset in the comments. It's actually kind of predictable. All they said was that OM should focus more on street photography and consumer cameras, and they're not wrong. The OM-5 is their cheapest body at $1,000, and that's a pretty penny for a hobbyist trying to get into photography. They absolutely need to offer a body somewhere in the $500 range. I personally use an Olympus everyday, and love it. But it's ridiculous to see all of the hate from other users. What they said isn't incorrect even if you don't like it. If you don't like their channel, just stop watching it.

      @RG-rm9jt@RG-rm9jt7 ай бұрын
  • I’ve only recently became interested in photography again. In the 1970s I majored in photography at a community college, and was a serious hobbyist. Needless to say it was film. I did both color and b&w work, but mostly b&w. I loved working in the darkroom. I started out with Canon (AT-1, completely manual), but later switched to an Olympus OM-1. Coming back to photography I did quite a bit of research, and settled on Sony, not because of what I ended up purchasing (Cyber-Shot DSC HX409v), but for the future camera I’ll buy if I decide to continue with the hobby. I must say I was a bit shocked at the prices of modern digital cameras, but equally shocked at the capabilities of those cameras. My current “next” camera will probably be one of the two new 7C cameras: the 7C Mark II, or the 7C R (I’ll wait for your review). And I really want that FE 70-200mm F4 Macro G OSS II lens. I had decided my future camera before buying the HX400v to play around with. I’m an old fart, 74, but I still like having fun. I only considered Canon, Nikon, and Sony. I just couldn’t make myself like Panasonic or Fuji. Thanks for your channel. 😊

    @fbales@fbales9 ай бұрын
    • Look into the price of film and developing and the price of the digital camera is easier to take.

      @UnconventionalReasoning@UnconventionalReasoning9 ай бұрын
    • I’m older too and found myself with a Easter egg of funds and longed to get back into photography from my youth, I started with a 2nd hand Canon setup from a friends older brother and loved it then I got the Nikon D90 and progressed to a Nikon D300 and it broke about 15 years ago and I was never able to repair it so I sold everything off, that was a mistake because I had a lot of great lenses. So just a few months ago I decided to buy my dream camera…the Nikon D850 and a few really good lenses with accessories. I probably should have gone mirrorless but I’ve always loved the D850 when I read the spec sheet and looked at it at our local photo shop back in 2017. Having it and using it has been a dream and I was a lot smarter about the quality of glass I bought. I still don’t have 1 more of the holy Trinity and I want 1 more lens but I’m really happy now. My advise is to really research your lenses and make sure you put as much into your glass as possible with any camera system you buy, I don’t think it matters what brand you buy as long as it has a good track record and foreseeable future and you can’t go wrong with Sony. I was really surprised with capabilities and Options they have, they are a terrific camera brand and I would pick them or Canon as a secondary option. Have fun!

      @edwardwilliams188@edwardwilliams1889 ай бұрын
    • @@edwardwilliams188 What's the D850 like? You still happy with your purchase? I've been shooting with a old 70D for close to 10 years now. Only moving to mirrorless this year because of accident and insurance. ;) If it wasn't for that I would have probably still be shooting another 10 years :D

      @snaphaan5049@snaphaan50495 ай бұрын
  • I think that you cannot go wrong with any of the Big Three companies. You just have to decide what qualities are most important to you and make a decision accordingly. I love the ergonomics of Nikon cameras. I had first picked them up in Best Buy and I liked the EVF as well as the grip on Nikon the best. When I first bought into the system 2 years ago, the lens availability was a bit lacking. They have since fixed this. The menus are easy to navigate, and I like the Z mount and all the glass that goes with it, especially the S series glass. I own a Z50 (which I never use anymore) and a Z6 which meets all my needs. I don't really enter into any situations that are really taxing for the autofocus. If I needed more MP or found the autofocus was not cutting it, then I would probably upgrade to the Z8. I would be very curious to pick up the newer Canons, but I am all set with Nikon.

    @jallen418@jallen4188 ай бұрын
  • Informative and fun discussion! Thanks. I sold my Canon 7D in 2015 for a Sony a6000 and have been evolving in the Sony system ever since due to familiarity and lens purchases. It's nice to get info on the camera landscape. Waiting to see what the Sony a7CII or 7Cr is like because I'm enamored with the smaller form factor and heck, who doesn't like buying a new camera for a little inspiration! But I totally agree, keep working on your photography skills and you'll take great pictures with most any camera.

    @diblaze77@diblaze778 ай бұрын
    • I gifted away my 7D in 2015 and I still miss it. Newer cameras are faster, with sharper, cleaner sensors, but they're missing something I can't put into words. I had an a7R II and a 5DS R. I got *rid of them and kept my Nikon D70s. I'm a hobbyist, so I'll take emotion and feeling over resolution and cleanliness. *typo

      @jesuschristiscallingyou953@jesuschristiscallingyou9538 ай бұрын
    • Problem is those aren’t much smaller than the a7iv etc. they just have a worse evf. You are better off with a 6100/6400/6700 for the size benefit.

      @SneakyCaleb@SneakyCaleb5 ай бұрын
  • Canon not only blocks 3rd party lenses, but they won't make any mid-range primes e.g., 50 1.4 etc. Why?

    @paulo7200@paulo72009 ай бұрын
  • Loved your book "Stunning digital photography"! I use my Fuji GFX 100s for portraits and landscapes. Love the images for the price. I am looking forward to the canon R1 to see how it compares with the Sony A1. I have shot Canon and Nikon for years with the last Nikon being the D850 and the last canon being the R5. Favorite lens RF 28-70 F2. Favorite lenses for the Fuji GFX, 45-100 and the 110 F2. I feel clumsy with the Sony user interface and the cost of the CFX-A vs CFX-B was a lot. Good luck and wish you both a lot of luck. Shooting since 1979.

    @user-os3pz6bd8l@user-os3pz6bd8l9 ай бұрын
  • I’m tempted to buy a Fuji xt2 for a good price and adding some good glass. Is it still worth buying?

    @jacknicholasny@jacknicholasny9 ай бұрын
  • Good comparison, I am in a situation right now where I don't know whether to switch to Sony from Canon. I'm a hobbyist wildlife photographer and I shoot with a 90D and I love it. However, I was looking forward to the a6700 but i'm unsure if I should go with it. On one hand its Sonys best aps-c and there is a TON of lenses, on the other the R7 which has everything I want and more as it is the 90D successor. Although there is not as many lenses or especially affordable telephotos available for the RF mount; still the 100-500 gets a lot of praise (should I save up?) and there is rumors about Canon opening their mount up more. So, i'm unsure what I should do or even if I should go full frame now.

    @konnorwarzecha504@konnorwarzecha5049 ай бұрын
    • I own a canon 7dii, R7 and Sony A6600. Of you own good canon glass then the R7 is the future, if own cheap low-quality glass then you can get what system / brand you want. I like my A6600 as it is small and a great travel and stealth camera. I use my canon L glass on it via sigma MC-11 EF to E mount adapter, and this set up works reasonably well. However when I put my EF L glass on my R7 the lenses are snappy, and very quick AF.

      @tysonator5433@tysonator54339 ай бұрын
  • Any recommendations for film camera ? Just one camera and lens combo that's an allrounder for portraits and street photography ?

    @Yamyjam90@Yamyjam909 ай бұрын
  • Question, do you tend to crop because it's difficult to get birds in flight in the spot you want (so you crop to center the bird) or do you do it because you need the extra "zoom" that micro 4/3'rds gives you natively?

    @wookiee.gunner@wookiee.gunner9 ай бұрын
    • You can get the same level of zoom with any sensor size. Usually you crop because you can't get close enough. But yeah, a wider angle of view or a zoom is useful for fast-moving birds. Being able to crop 1.5x and still have 20 megapixels allows you to have a wider view and makes tracking easier. It's the benefit of shooting high megapixel FF as opposed to APS-C, too.

      @TonyAndChelsea@TonyAndChelsea9 ай бұрын
  • Having watched your video if I was starting from scratch I’m not sure which brand I’d choose. However, I’m not. Up until about a year ago all I had was a Panasonic TZ95. It’s small, about 24-600 Leica lens and takes nice pics, (6 times crop factor). I still carry it with me nearly all the time rather than carry large telephoto lenses. However, I went on holiday with a couple who took their photography seriously (he’s actually an award winning documentary maker) and obviously they were shooting with “proper” cameras so I decided I needed one. I really can’t remember exactly why but I think I just liked the retro look of the Fuji brand with the dials etc so went with Fuji but with the XS 10, the one without the dials. A few months later I regretted I hadn’t started with the retro looked so bought a second hand XH1. So now I often shoot with three cameras. Having two Fuji X mounts the lenses are interchangeable so maybe on one the very good 18-55 and the other either a 12mm or the 50-230. So, I have never shot with Canon, Nikon or Sony but I really really love the images that the two Fuji’s produce. What I think all Fuji owners love are the SOOC film simulations that I don’t think any other brand can offer. There are I think 19 standard simulations but literally 100’s more that users have devised that can be easily programmed in (limited to 4 and 7 on my two cameras). So this to me makes photography so much more interesting being able to shoot with different simulations to get SOOC jpegs ( I shoot raw as well just in case I need to bring really dark areas up) with completely different looks. And there’s another feature all Fuji’s have and that is you can bring the raw file up in camera and create a jpeg from any of the in camera simulations and make other changes. On the many Fuji Facebook pages I’m seeing all the time that people are giving up on one of the major brands and moving to the Fuji brand, they must be doing something right. So, Fiji gets my vote but that’s all I know and love. As I’m 76 I don’t think I’ll ever need to change.

    @iandisney4872@iandisney48728 ай бұрын
  • 29:50 the comment about the system is spot on. I moved up to FF Sony (A7r3), for IQ (and it did not disappoint) and lenses. However, then I found that video handheld was trash, and that all those good IQ lenses all had breathing for ages, and that video was in bad 8 bit codecs and limited in many ways. Then I saw that the microjitters would never go away (even my sisters A1 has them!) and many of the features I wanted were limited to expensive bodies. So I went to the S5II, good enough video AF, much much better video IQ, better ergonomics, and an ecosystem of good inexpensive primes and good, inexpensive variable aperture zooms. Now excited to see if the Samyang 35-150 arrives soon and how it works with the camera- knowing that SW updates will keep me happy if new things come up. System matters!

    @cchikevideos4432@cchikevideos44329 ай бұрын
  • I personally picked up a used Sony A5100 to try out the hobby, couple of lenses (3rd and 1st party) later, now the a73 is on my wishlist for black friday.

    @MauriceSchurink@MauriceSchurink9 ай бұрын
  • Nikon Z in APS-C lenses are now four Z DX lenses: kit Z 16-50mm, Z 12-28mm PZ (with power zoom ring), Z DX 24mm f1.7, and Z 18-140mm, however you can also add Z FF lenses. Four is more than just two Z DX lenses. There are also a half dozen third party Z lenses out there.

    @adrianvanleeuwen@adrianvanleeuwen9 ай бұрын
    • 50-250, makes 5 native Z DX 😏

      @csc-photo@csc-photo9 ай бұрын
    • The f mount converter works great, so you can add modern F lenses to this as well. I occasionally shoot through an older 35 mm 1.8 'G' lens and it works fine.

      @patrickstonetree1@patrickstonetree19 ай бұрын
  • OM should put out a new pen-f

    @hchavez@hchavez9 ай бұрын
    • Just bought a used Pen-F. Photography is FUN! Love that sexy machine.

      @pupples9720@pupples97209 ай бұрын
  • I bought a Canon RP a few years ago. When I was looking, I really didn't want to spend a fortune on an R5 or A7 IV. I also have some EF glass that I would have had to sell and re-buy in the E-Mount, which adds to the cost of switching. I tried out the A7III, and while it was close in features and quality, the RP was a better value for me, and I've never looked back.

    @geophizz@geophizz9 ай бұрын
  • Great video. I’m upgrading from a canon 6D to get more into wildlife photography, but I’m conflicted choosing between the a9 mark 2 and R6 mark 2. (Used a9 ii is similar in price to r6 ii new). Would love to see someone create a head to head comparison of those, even though the R6 mark 2 is 3 years newer, simply because the a9 iii doesn’t seem to be surfacing.

    @01FLHT@01FLHT8 ай бұрын
    • Only took 4 months but hey, if you didn't buy already, the a9iii has arrived!

      @jordanbabcock9349@jordanbabcock93494 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for a good informative video. I mostly shoot video and I love my Lumix G85. Would I like to upgrade to the S5 II, sure but for now I am finding great success with a camera that just keeps going.

    @MallisonDigital@MallisonDigital9 ай бұрын
  • Thumbs up for Lumix!! 😇

    @farren7254@farren72549 ай бұрын
    • yep, support the underdog! Best bank for your bucks! I love my Lumix S5 + Sigma 24-70. I paid less then 1800€ for this killer combo ✌️

      @m-stat9@m-stat99 ай бұрын
  • I do agree if OM systems want to be sought after buy more photographers, and to keep the photographers that use her system. Currently they need to come up with an all new sensor with a minimum of 28 megapixels of resolution without losing the low light performance the camera has currently with the current sensor they’re using with the OM-1, After all the pixel density is higher on the small sensors, I think an 8 megapixel improvement and resolution would be sufficient seeing that the sensor is quarter the size of a full frame sensor, you cannot beat the build quality of their cameras for going out, and all kinds of terrible weather in their cameras are built to last, unlike some cameras that are made to be disposable.

    @anthony-qm3pn@anthony-qm3pn9 ай бұрын
  • What about Sony E mount being too small to really leverage IBIS, especially for video. That’s not fixable, unless they create a wider mount

    @Sebastian-lw1ei@Sebastian-lw1ei9 ай бұрын
  • I've switched eco-systems twice now in the last 20 years... Started with Nikon... upgraded a couple of times in that period, D200, D7000, D7100, D600. Then switched to Panasonic, GH4, GH5 -Started wedding videos... then 5 years ago switched again to Sony, A7iii, AC7, A7IV, ZVe10. I'm staying with Sony for the remainder... just great gear, great value, great gear/lens selection. I still do weddings, but with Panasonic gear... But would love to switch to FX3s at some point....

    @rickwarrick3092@rickwarrick30929 ай бұрын
  • I never thought I'd own a M43 camera, coming from full frame Canon and APS-C Fuji. I've really enjoyed my OM-5 and carry it everywhere. The depth of field offered by the sensor is perfect for street photography, and it is small enough to not get noticed. I agree that their focus should be elsewhere (a new PEN, for instance), but I am enjoying learning macro techniques. Their monochrome JPEGs look great, too.

    @rumrill5020@rumrill50209 ай бұрын
    • I went full circle from M43 to APSC to Full Frame, back to M43. For landscape photography the shallower depth of field is a benefit. For wildlife photography the 2x crop factor gets you closer with a smaller lens. The smaller lenses let me bring more options with me when traveling. The low light capabilities are not always great, but some of the best astrophotographs I have taken were with my M43 system despite the full frame system costing me 5 times more. When doing portraits, clients often prefer the images from the M43 system over the full frame system making it hard to say which is really the A camera and which is the B camera. As technology continues to evolve and new products come out, I am excited to see what M43 brings us.

      @ElMundoDuro@ElMundoDuro9 ай бұрын
    • New MFT guy. Portable, fun, and less expensive. Love it

      @pupples9720@pupples97209 ай бұрын
    • The new-ish OM 90mm macro lens is stunning!

      @UnconventionalReasoning@UnconventionalReasoning9 ай бұрын
    • @@UnconventionalReasoning That is what I have heard. I just wish it didn't cost so much. I like to dabble in Macro, but hard to justify spending that much just to dabble.

      @ElMundoDuro@ElMundoDuro9 ай бұрын
    • @@ElMundoDuro Same here. I'd love to pick one up, but as a beginner it's out of my price range. The 60mm macro is frequently on sale, though, and does a good job at the price point. It's also frequently on my camera as an everyday/walkaround telephoto lens.

      @rumrill5020@rumrill50209 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for this video -- well laid out and nothing much to dispute I am deeply invested in time; number of images taken and length of footage taken; and in gear from Nikon and Hasselblad - I have no intention or need to change systems. I have been on a bumpy ride with Nikon until I received my first Z9 (I have had 2 since Feb 2022) and then the Z8 (I have 2 of these as well) - why 20 fps Lossless RAW / 8.3K 60p or 4k 120p N-RAW N-log all on quite possibly the best wildlife/action glass from anyone the Z400/2.8TC and Z600/4TC together with full coverage in FF s-line zooms from 14mm to 400mm and a selection of primes. I am old and the weight/size is no issue for me. Then came the X2D-100C and the TWO new V series XCD lenses (yes with the 2.5/90 still pending). Since H stopped the H-line the X series is their only game and so as you say if their camera brand is to continue in a meaningful way (so not just cameras for DJI drones which are selling) then: a) they need to/must implement continuous AF on the X2D-100C and potentially add some form of tracking; and b) the line-up of XCD "V" lenses needs to take over the XCD 4/21 (no longer in production) and the rest of the current wonderful but slow and heavy XCD lens line-up. AT $3000-4500 per lens on top of the $8000 body it is a big ask - but some of us diehard 16-bit shooters luv these files and the slower stills shooting experience. No way was I buying into the GFX 100/100s lineup -- the far far too slow flash sync speed is a killer. Also the X2D and Nikon share the same flash heads/triggers and so I can swap between them easily. I never had the issues you folk had with the Z9 or Z8 - but then I am really old and learned to shoot wildlife manually focussing back in the 1970s and then with really basic DSLRs all the way to the D5/D850. The Z9/Z8 just blow all previous Nikons out of the water and so I simply do not care what other brands can do with their AF -- not after buying 14 of the top Nikkor Z-mount lenses, still owning 3 PCE and several Z-mount CINE lenses. Chelsea's closing comment on needing to know basic photography is spot on; but I go further - as a pro-level shooter you had better also know your gear and I mean REALLY WELL, set it up for success with each type of subject you shoot and have built deep muscle memory so you are not fumbling about while action is in front of your lens. AND with all camera brands this is its own journey. Only fools drop $10k, $20k or a whole lot more and expect the camera to do all the work -- they will not. Please if you are such a fool - just stick to a cell phone.

    @AndyMillerPhotoUK@AndyMillerPhotoUK9 ай бұрын
  • Hello, the difference between the "Olympus" 300/4.0 and a 600/4.0 is not difficult to explain. As far as the exposure parameters and are concerned, both are the same! The ff-lense only has a shallow deph of field, but for 11.000 Euros more!!!

    @richardfink7666@richardfink76669 ай бұрын
    • ......the angle of view is also the same.

      @richardfink7666@richardfink76669 ай бұрын
    • ​@@richardfink7666 you are a victim of Olympus' disinformation. Noise and detail level is the same as full frame with 600/4.0?

      @80-80.@80-80.9 ай бұрын
    • For the price of a lousy, little, tiny imitation of a camera sensor at M43. Which is a better noise generator. Hands off M43, RIP.

      @josefmolina3510@josefmolina35109 ай бұрын
    • ​@@josefmolina3510ignorance

      @pupples9720@pupples97209 ай бұрын
    • @@josefmolina3510 I was very disappointed when I fell for the hype and purchased a full frame system that was newer and 5 times more expensive than my M43 system. I have since gone back to M43 for most things. M43 is far from dead, and with technology improving all the time, M43 is in a prime position to be the sweet spot of interchangeable lens camera system of the future.

      @ElMundoDuro@ElMundoDuro9 ай бұрын
  • Wanting to change to a new camera system I want to go to a medium format but am captivated by the Canon fast lenses. 85mm at f1.2! The Hasselblad and Fuji systems are sadly lacking in fast glass. Great show! I am a fan and watch all your videos. Thx.

    @user-id4xf5mk5c@user-id4xf5mk5c8 ай бұрын
  • Appreciate the video. I'm an beginner to intermediate photographer looking to get into the full frame world. I really like the ergonomics of the Nikon z6ii and z7ii, but I know they lack some of the features that the Sony alpha series has. Do you think Nikon will ever trickle the tech from their top tier cameras into their intermediate bodies? Or am I better off going with a company like Sony that has more 3rd party lens support, and seems to be innovating more when it comes to different tiers/lines of cameras?

    @michaelking5490@michaelking54906 ай бұрын
  • I like the comparison of cameras. I look a Fuji lineup and there weren’t a lot of aftermarket long lens. How about a video on using Nikon adapter with Z8 and early FD mounts?

    @reginaldcobb5456@reginaldcobb54569 ай бұрын
  • I shot Nikon for over 30 years. Late 2022, I invested $18k in a complete Sony kit. Since I do not shoot sports or wildlife (I shoot travel, architecture, portraits, boudoir), I opted for the A7RV due to the resolution. I also bought the batt grip (not sure why LOL) and all GM and GM II glass as well (16-35, 24-70 II, 70-200 II, 35 1.4, 50 1.2, 85 1.4). With the exception of the Sony 85mm GM lens, I could not be more pleased with this kit. Challenging photos like night time travel and low light boudoir photos are absolutely stunning with this body and any of the above mentioned lenses. As a side note, the Tamron 35-150 2.0-2.8 lens is AMAZING on my A7RV.

    @tomi6261@tomi62619 ай бұрын
    • I hope you can appreciate how fortunate you are. I am satisfied with my a7r4 and 7 lenses of which only one is Sony. My favorite lenses are the Sigma 150-600 sport and my Tamron 24-75 v2

      @GrandpaTom@GrandpaTom9 ай бұрын
  • Hi Tony and Chelsea, I always enjoy these multi brand discussions, I always learn something.

    @Digmen1@Digmen18 ай бұрын
  • I currently own the a6600 and a couple APS-C lenses. I find the new a6700 to be enticing BUT I am going to wait for the a7S IV to release before making my next purchase.

    @DDavEE@DDavEE9 ай бұрын
  • Please do a sound check, Tony's volume is about 2/3rds of Chelsea's. I noticed this on previous vids. thanks

    @mrdev9843@mrdev98439 ай бұрын
  • I would love to hear your opinions on Gopro

    @ryancormack6934@ryancormack69349 ай бұрын
  • As a longtime "Pentaxian" I recently switched to the Nikon Z system (Nikon Z6 II) with their fantastic S-lenses! I am sooo happy with my decision, that was mostly based on the fantastic haptic of the Nikon Z6 II, its build quality and because Nikon offers the only weather sealing that is quite on par with the ones build in Pentax cameras and lenses! Canon is quite behind both of them and Sony`s weather sealing is more or less useless!

    @Travelagent@Travelagent9 ай бұрын
    • Same thing here. Pro Pentaxian since the 80s, switched to Sony and am delighted.

      @quirkworks4076@quirkworks40768 ай бұрын
    • I also think that Nikon offers the best ergonomics, weather sealing and overall build quality/feel.

      @BorisZX6R@BorisZX6R7 ай бұрын
  • Panasonic is my favorite. But I’m disappointed by all brands for not having computational photography on par with iPhone 14 Pro if not better. Specifically blending 100s of exposures in a split second to produce a single Raw with insane DR. No excuse in 2023.

    @aviatorman80@aviatorman809 ай бұрын
  • It's interesting you said that Sony doesn't have any more affordable entry options for full-frame. As a newer hobbyist photographer, one of the reasons I ended up in Sony was because they had quite a few older (and therefore cheaper) models still in production. I ended up with an A7R3. I paid about as much as I would have for an EOS R8. Maybe keeping older models in production is how they get around not having cheaper full-frame entry models?

    @merricfoley6481@merricfoley64819 ай бұрын
    • Sure sony has affordable options like the a7iii but you dont really want to go lower then that

      @PwodYxp@PwodYxp9 ай бұрын
    • @@pkay610 for sure, the original post was about ff so that would explain my comment. :)

      @PwodYxp@PwodYxp9 ай бұрын
    • exactly, just got a7r iii for like 1000$. in my country a73 and a7r3 cost +- the same, with a73 being sometimes pricier than the r3 on the used market. and it feels like the best deal I've ever done. went with r3 cause I've wanted more details and ability to crop + to see improvements over 24 mp. since it would be my 3rd camera with 24mp if I went with the r3. and full frame 42mp for a bit less than 1000$ is just a banger.

      @user-bd2ov7qd4u@user-bd2ov7qd4u14 күн бұрын
  • My first 35mm SLR camera was a Minolta... With powered zoom Sigma lenses and the body had plug in feature cards, e.g. for portraits. Very innovative. Then Sony bought them for the mount. The lenses on my Minolta worked on the digital Sony body A390 and the body had IBIS !!! .... but no power zoom. Way ahead of it's time. It took a decade for Canon to catch up and put IBIS in their bodies. Level pegging now as Nikon slipped back... Nikon used to be the professionals choice, for photo journalism. I use Cannon R5 but wish for more lens choice and delivery of rumoured firmware updates to maximise the processing ability.

    @grumblewoof4721@grumblewoof47219 ай бұрын
  • The AE-1 was my first camera as a kid in 1977 - still working today... 😯😵‍💫😂👍🏼

    @elledriver3509@elledriver35099 ай бұрын
  • The only person I had talk to me about Olympus was someone talking about micro four third magnification and how convenient and portable it was for wildlife photography

    @KEHA14@KEHA149 ай бұрын
    • Pangolin Wildlife Photography KZhead has a video (18:40 mark) about this and actually shows the difference between R3/600 F4 vs OM1/300 F4. The MFT not as bokelicious lol

      @FQ8@FQ89 ай бұрын
    • the r3 costs £5.5k 😂 OM-1 is £1900 @@FQ8 - a second hand 600f4 is about £600 more then a second hand 300 f4

      @petereyres1050@petereyres10509 ай бұрын
  • I've tried Nikon, Fujifilm, Panasonic, Sony...and I still prefer Nikon over the rest. It is true that Sony's autofocus is the best, but I don't like using them, always end up selling them. There's 0 soul, they're plain and boring. Photography should be fun, creative, artistic, whatever you want to call it. With Nikon I always want to grab them and go shoot. Just wish they came out with some newer bodies that are not 5k and heavy as a brick. Hoping for a Nikon d810-ish sensor on a newer Z6/7 body.

    @honestnerd@honestnerd9 ай бұрын
  • Would like to hear about Ricoh/Pentax, Phase One, and Lecia's SL system too!

    @MarcAdesso@MarcAdesso9 ай бұрын
  • I am a Sony user but I would like to see them take on Fuji in the comsumer market. Maybe produce a fixed lens small bodied full frame or possible they could partner with a film company (Kodak?) and make film simulations for in camera jpeg processing.

    @patrickhanly7458@patrickhanly74589 ай бұрын
  • I am looking to buy mirrorless, I shoot with Nikon and would like to stick to Nikons. I was looking into the Z 6ii, could you give me any advice.

    @jeancardia9183@jeancardia91839 ай бұрын
  • Something I miss from Olympus MFT is the sharpness. I had a 50mm lens, not a pricey one and it was sharper than my APSC Canon.

    @paramoreprincess@paramoreprincess9 ай бұрын
  • Chelsea thank you 4your recognition of my 1st purchase, the AE1 Program ... nostalgia came over thinking of the European trip shooting with FujiChrome & KodaChrome in 1979'.. And now own as well 100V, had them all since their inception and XT's. Shoot mainly for IQ the days with 7RIVa behind GM's ... no need to ask why !! Cheers fom AU🙃

    @ianjohnstone1061@ianjohnstone10618 ай бұрын
  • I love my Nikon and Panasonic MFT cameras. The fact that people like you... have convinced people to sell their awesome equipment, so I can buy them used... for a good bargain... THANK YOU! Proud of my images with this equipment. Keep up the good work!

    @kennygo8300@kennygo83009 ай бұрын
    • Best post of the thread NAILED IT. I have benefited with lots of used camera and lens purchases in the last few years. Lots of good gear out there that was state-of-the-art in 2016. But people like Tony inspired these consumers to buy the latest.

      @pupples9720@pupples97209 ай бұрын
    • Damn right. I'd like to thank him personally for financially crippling other people going for a $6500 body and $15,000 lens so I can buy something that's beyond great for 1/20th of the price.

      @AguilaDeOnix85@AguilaDeOnix859 ай бұрын
  • Pentax - not a mention! Yes, useless for video but great build including weather sealing and with a menu system that's simple to use and great viewfinders. They last as my K5 from 2011 proves. For someone on a budget the compatibility with older lenses combined with this build means you can have a system that's still reasonably priced and allows the novice to experiment and learn their craft.

    @classicaloracle@classicaloracle7 ай бұрын
    • Brilliant cameras, still prefer using Pentax to my mirrorless camera, even if you do have to work it a bit more. In the end that becomes part of the joy.

      @highestsprings@highestsprings6 ай бұрын
  • Started with the Nikon D90 around 2009 and now that mirrorless took off I bought a lot of pre-owned gear: the D500 for hockey sports photography and the D810 for all the rest, added some nice Tamron and Nikkor glass, all pre-owned. I am happy with it. Of course I would be interested to try the Sony A1 for hockey photography but I find the price still too high.

    @Totontlis@Totontlis9 ай бұрын
    • You should try the Nikon Z8. It is as good as the Sony A1 but much less expensive.

      @jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas@jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas9 ай бұрын
  • Thank you both for your thoughtful attention to the industry and this topic. I've been evaluating/reading and watching every video comparison between the Sony A7 IV and the Canon R6 II for a few months now. I keep swinging back and forth. Luckily I'm not pressed for time at all. And even though Canon wins for so many checkboxes that matter to me, the lens cost and lack of 3rd party is a huge hit against them. And this week I heard that Sigma is finally licensing the RF mount and there have been murmurs that Tamaron will soon follow. So, I may jump into the R6ii and just get an RF100mm F2.8 L Macro IS USM for just under $1K and live with that (and maybe 1-2 used EF lenses) until Sigmas arrive. As much as I like some Sony A7 IV features - I think the more pro features in the Canon will serve my needs more fully.

    @zapadeeboom@zapadeeboom5 ай бұрын
  • I can't really remember why but when i bought my first DSLR it HAD to be a Canon (350D) in 2005. To be fair Canon ruled the world at that time with Nikon in second. Sony wasn't even around at the time I think. I feel the same way today. Yes you are absolutly right about Canon being somewhat boring but still to this day I love the look and feel of a Canon in my hands.

    @trifix@trifix9 ай бұрын
  • I have a chance to get a 1500 Lumix s5II with 2 lenses via a retailer, the camera is listed as open box new, I'm new to photography is this a good brand to start with? I was going to buy a R50 from canon but with 2 lenses kit it is almost 1000.00 while I think I'm getting a better overall camera in the s5 ii, I will be a hybrid shooter that will use it for landscape photography and YT product reviews. I was looking at the R6 , a7c or a7iii but I haven't been able to find either at the same price point of the lumix. The more I keep looking the more time passes and the more undecided I become xD.

    @KungFuTze@KungFuTze2 ай бұрын
  • A camera is a box that shoots pictures and videos. if you take the time to learn how to use it, you can make great pictures with just about any of them (well except the ZV-1F). I got into all of this because the ZV-E10 was $700 and had a boat load of lenses to pick from. I started with the E10 in auto-mode for everything..... my pictures and vids were in a word c-rap. Then someone told me to use the auto-focus and use manual for everything else... for the first month more c-rap, then things got better and better as I shot more shots and filmed more film. Now I think I could pick up just about any camera (well except the ZV-1F lol) and do good work. I said good not great but I think I am growing each day.

    @lvc394@lvc3949 ай бұрын
    • it sounds like you are learning! good job! what is up with the ZV-1F? i wanted that camera then saw the reviews and said "i will keep my mobile"

      @damasovi_travels1244@damasovi_travels12449 ай бұрын
  • This was a great comparison, and I shared it with my Fujifilm owners group

    @robertowen-jones443@robertowen-jones4439 ай бұрын
  • Thank you! Although as I’m now even more conflicted, I’m sticking with my D850 and a mix of (predominantly) third party and native lenses before I jump to a mirrorless system. Maybe the Sony A1 Mk II?! One question - does Nikon Z8 eyelash focus badly? Mixed reviews out there (incl yours)…

    @nickfreeman5770@nickfreeman57709 ай бұрын
    • The Z8 will focus as well as the D850. When I deliver pictures, nobody cares if they were from the D850 or Z7II. There are plenty to deliver, using single-shot mode. The fixation with the camera doing the eye-AF hurts the art of photography [royalties sent to Ted Forbes...]. If someone goes from the D850 to the Z8, operationally they will barely notice the difference.

      @UnconventionalReasoning@UnconventionalReasoning9 ай бұрын
    • All cameras misfocus sometimes.

      @amermeleitor@amermeleitor9 ай бұрын
    • @@UnconventionalReasoning Hi, thanks for the reply. Appreciate your comments. Given my current body/lens lineup means I’ll be having to change most of them whether I stay in the Nikon ecosystem or jump to Canon or Sony; I’m wanting to ensure I don’t have to move again. (How well does the F-to-Z adapter work for third party lenses?) I realise it’s like comparing a Ferrari to a Lamborghini, but part of the reason I’ve stuck with the D850 is that until the Z8 appeared there wasn’t a compelling reason to move to Nikon mirrorless. And I still wonder if I’d be better waiting a bit longer to see if Nikon’s advances continue. A couple of years ago, Nikon were looking like they might be no more and so investing there would have been a mistake. Perhaps an easier question - if you were advising someone starting afresh (and forget the difference in prices), would you tell them Sony A1, Nikon Z8, Canon R5?

      @nickfreeman5770@nickfreeman57709 ай бұрын
    • @@nickfreeman5770 My main bias when answering the A1/Z8/R5 question is about the companies. * Sony is a consumer electronics company. Over the past half century, it's home runs have included the Walkman, Discman, Trinitron TV, Betamax (over the fence but just foul), PlayStation, Alpha MILC, ... * Canon is a camera and business products company. I have bought two printers in the past two decades, both Canon. Naming products is a challenge, especially as things change over time. My biggest problem with Canon is that, when they had the chance for a naming reset with the RF mount, they screwed it up royally. Start with the R as the first RF mount camera?!? The R3, R5, and R6 make sense. But then the R7 is APS-C, the R8 is full frame, the R10 is APS-C. And then the R50/R100? WTF?!? These have only been out for 5 years and they've made several mistakes. They should have had a better sense of the 10-year plan, they're a Japanese company not an American one. * Nikon is an imaging company. Their biggest weaknesses are that they are the smallest of the three (Canon is about 5x larger, Sony about 20x), and that they have not been a software company. Their biggest strength is endurance. While they adapt and change paths slower, the things they do stick around longer. With AF in the 1980s, Canon switched from the FD to the EF mount while Nikon kept modifying what would be done with the F mount. Canon got simplicity, Nikon got compatibility. Nikon also made the Z-mount the most adaptable, taking Nikon F, Leica M, Canon EF, and Sony E mount lenses. Over the 2010s they were behind with the software, which was most evident with autofocus. They have addressed the software emphasis over the past few years, both with the autofocus in the Z9/Z8 and with the firmware updates. To answer the question between the A1, Z8, and R5, I would ask these questions: 1. When do you want the camera purchase after this one to take place? Closer to 2 or more like 5 years? 2. How important is 'mid-tier videography'? For example, Davinci Resolve is free, but would you want the features in the paid version? [Cinema products have significantly higher levels than photography products.] 3. Is eye-AF the most important feature for you? 4. How much time to you like to spend in front of the computer with post-processing? The photographer who wants a new camera every couple of years with the latest and greatest features should look at Sony. Though their pace has slowed down a bit, as they're spreading out. For long-term, all three start out fairly equal but Nikon seems to be committed to firmware upgrades. A 2023 Z9 is better than a 2021 Z9, for free. If mid-tier videography is a goal, Canon is the best choice followed by Sony. The EF mount seems to be one of the most widely used in the sub-$50k cinema world, along with the PL mount. Sony is making a big push in the sub-$5k cinema world with 'hand-held cinema cameras' [FX3/FX30], intended to be in a rig while smaller than shoulder-mount cameras. Nikon is aiming at the hybrid person, at most 70/30 towards video, wanting to stay with a 'photo camera' form factor rather than a 'cinema camera rig' style. If eye-AF is most important, Nikon is still third place for now, but a close third. This is now more about reputation than producing the desired images. If post-processing is an enjoyable part of the process, all three are great. If delivering the camera jpeg files is appealing, I think Nikon wins, especially over Sony. [When youtube photography influencers review cameras, they often bring pictures into LR and then compare colors. That adds LR processing to the mix. They should open the jpegs from each camera, with the *camera* processing, to compare colors.] Hope this helps. It was interesting to think through this.

      @UnconventionalReasoning@UnconventionalReasoning9 ай бұрын
    • @@UnconventionalReasoning Are you well informed about SONY to write this? SONY is an umbrella company active in many areas, including photography. In the early 2000s they merged with Konica and Minolta, two photography legends, who are now the force behind the Alpha cameras. Before the merge, SONY was also pioneering digital cameras and sensors. They have totally transformed the industry with their mirrorless cameras since 2010. Now Nikon and Canon follow that same path, they too are now manufacturing mirrorless cameras, with similar technologies like eye AF etc. In any case, ignoring everything I mentioned above, simply the fact that SONY are so commited to photography, and keen to continually produce great cameras and lots of top glass over the years, I feel should be enough to acknoledge their position and contribution.

      @adamadamis@adamadamis9 ай бұрын
  • I have the Canon R7 and R8 with the rf100-400mm and rf800mm for birds and wildlife and I'm very happy with them. I don't like how noisy the less expensive Canon small prime lenses are when focusing so I have an A7iv with several Sony prime lenses. I like having the flexibility and freedom of choices of the different lenses and systems.

    @ForrestWest@ForrestWest9 ай бұрын
  • You can still use any brand with Canon RF mount by using the EF-RF adaptor, I have inherited my son's collection of EF glass after he switched over to Fujifilm, so I can use his EF glass easily on my R7.

    @andrewkeir2282@andrewkeir22829 ай бұрын
    • Nikon Z-Mount can take any lenses from Sony E-Mount, Pentax K-Mount, Canon EF-Mount, Leica M-Mount and Nikon F-Mount. Most of them with autofocus if you buy the right adapter. It's the most versatile mirrorless camera mount on the market.

      @jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas@jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas9 ай бұрын
  • When I first went into digital photog, I bought a few Fujis over about five years finishing up with the X-S1 in 2012, that for its day, was quite an amazing camera. However, since about 2012, I have been Nikon all the way. As I bought new bodies my lenses would all work on the amazing F mount, saving a fortune. Now with the Z system, Nikon Z lenses are really really good but also my older F glass can be adapted quite successfully. Yay!! So at the various price points Nikon has made fairly compelling bodies and probably my favourite has been the D7500, a camera that many avoided because of only one card slot, but that I got on “special” saving hundreds of dollars. With the sensor from the D500 it takes magnificent photos and, “touch wood” I’ve never had a card fail, so, so much for double card slots. Cheers Y’All.

    @brianeibisch6025@brianeibisch60259 ай бұрын
  • One thing I didn’t hear you mention is that Sony also makes all of the sensors for the iPhone which means they have a huge incentive to continue to invest in cameras/sensor technology

    @spenson89@spenson896 ай бұрын
    • They also make sensors for the other big camera brands.

      @adamadamis@adamadamis3 ай бұрын
  • If I want to shoot with all these manual tilt shift lens,, should I get them with Sony A7RV with the practical 4 ways screen or Nikon ZF for the classic dial experiences? I shoot video with Panasonic HC-X1500 camcorder mainly but when I want low light or specialised video scenes, I do want to shoot with the camera?

    @NetvoTV@NetvoTV4 ай бұрын
  • I am having a hard time debating whether or not to get the canon R6 Mark II or to get the Sony A7CII. I shoot some portrait photography but lately I have been shooting photo and video of my 12 year olds basketball team. which one would you say is better for this? I currently have a Canon 5D Mark III. I can't really find any review videos comparing the two cameras. Thank you for your help.

    @amandaparotte@amandaparotte2 ай бұрын
  • Your book (Stunning Digital Photography) is really great and has really helped me. I am about 1/3 the way through it. Anyone with even very little photography knowledge can pick it up

    @nafnaf0@nafnaf09 ай бұрын
  • Love the comment about the AE1, owned that one. I went Nikon because of a friend, I could borrow lenses, until I could afford. I am mostly happywith the Z system, love there Lens quality, and price. I believe Bodies are transitory and great glass is still the way to go. Considering an upgrade to the Z8, when I can afford.

    @IanMacFarlane-sb7lj@IanMacFarlane-sb7lj8 ай бұрын
  • Think its jist whatever feels good for you. This teenage a lot of cameras get most of the stuff you need done for you. It's just about the fill of the camera and it has how it makes you feel and a motivates you to go out and shoot. Sometimes the top of the line equipment are not made for some people cuz it's too complicated. Maybe they just need something simple or vice versa. But I always still love seeing videos of pros and cons ❤️ lol

    @ernieojeda@ernieojeda9 ай бұрын
  • The Amazon address cited is shown as invalid. I tried both ways!

    @nixl3518@nixl35188 ай бұрын
  • I still have my Canon AE-1 Program. A R8 in that form factor would be killer.

    @ChristopherMarshburn@ChristopherMarshburn9 ай бұрын
  • Thanks. This video was good. I like the talk about the topic. And I am agree with you for most🙏

    @Bringisen@Bringisen9 ай бұрын
  • I have found the battery door in the Sony's (both of mine) eventually wear to where I have to do an extra step to close them. My Sony A7RIV with Tamron 150-500 is nice but focuses slow for BIF. I miss my Canon 80D with EF 400 f5.6 a lot. If I could do it all again I would go with Canon R7 and Canon RF 100-500 for sharper faster focusing with BIF.

    @orangeofmars2835@orangeofmars28359 ай бұрын
    • This really changed with the a7RV! And if you use a gm lens with this thing - its just amazing!

      @peng_edits@peng_edits8 ай бұрын
    • I have the A7riv and even with a native Sony lens it’s focus speed is not great for BIF, but it’s fine for landscapes and portraits. I have an A1 which I use for wildlife including BIF and it’s great, but don’t believe all the hype that it never misses focus because it does but not that often. I really love the customisation of the A1 where so much can be assigned to buttons for different settings for wildlife situations on the fly.

      @johnharvey1786@johnharvey17868 ай бұрын
  • Sony does it for me because you can get some great third-party glass, the mount is interchangeable with it's APSC line, they are constantly releasing new tech, and there are many different priced bodies that suit almost everybody. Fujifilm is my second favorite as they have the best aesthetics/shooting experience, and make excellent travel cameras.

    @martinruiz398@martinruiz3989 ай бұрын
    • Same here. Sony for me is #1 and Fujifilm is #2. I’m in love with the A7Sii (it’s my lover), and the Fujifilm X-T4 (it’s my best friend).

      @ClientsMusic@ClientsMusic9 ай бұрын
    • And since Fujifilm decided to open their mount, third party lenses started to come for Fujifilm

      @GungKrisna12@GungKrisna129 ай бұрын
  • I have shot every brand, even Pentax. I hate Sony. Terrible ergonomics, colors, rendering, jpegs. I sold A6300 shortly after buying. It was a brick in my hand. I now shoot Nikon full frame film and Fuji mirrorless

    @joshblank1@joshblank19 ай бұрын
    • Agreed that the a6300 sucked. Sony has since changed their color and won our blind color science comparison. The newer FF cameras have better ergonomics (though not as good as Nikon).

      @TonyAndChelsea@TonyAndChelsea9 ай бұрын
  • I find myself agreeing practically 95%. Talking about complete system in/around systems thought, and taking into consideration their sensor tech, Sony is no1 today - even though body design wise they can improve flagship bodies. One question please : do you have any hints about new firmware for A1?

    @skiriakidis@skiriakidis9 ай бұрын
  • I shoot Sony FF, Fuji X-T4 and the Olympus E-M1 Mkii. I enjoy using them all and the E-M1 the most. Which one I use depends on what I’m photographing but on family trips or functions it’s the E-M1. Mmmmm, how long has M4/3 been dying now?

    @Vincent13997@Vincent139978 ай бұрын
  • Question regarding Canon R bodies: is it true that, when using Canon RF lenses on the R bodies, the stabilization & AF perform better than with 3rd party lenses? Does that also hold true with Nikon Z & Sony mirrorless bodies regarding the use of their 3rd party options?

    @Andrew-ti7vj@Andrew-ti7vj5 ай бұрын
  • I wonder when custom made 3d printed bodies becomes a thing. Tony and Chelsea, what dials and interfaces would you like to have on you camera body?

    @ookiemand@ookiemand9 ай бұрын
  • I enjoy having my M43 lenses and that's why I stay with that system. I like switching between macro, telephoto wildlife, and snake photography and it's easier for me despite having two beefier M43 bodies (EM-1 MARK II and G9). But if I had the ability to invest in 35mm format, I like Nikon. Never had FF but like the beefy body and they have a nice selection of affordable wildlife gear. But there's already great wildlife selection for me with Olympus and Panasonic at MFT so I'm good.

    @AguilaDeOnix85@AguilaDeOnix859 ай бұрын
    • The G9 and the Nikon cameras have a very similar feel and layout. It has been easy to go back and forth.

      @UnconventionalReasoning@UnconventionalReasoning9 ай бұрын
    • @@UnconventionalReasoning yes. I might get a Z6II or something down the road, but what kept me going with MFT is that there are wildlife and macro photographers that put out phenomenal work with the lens lineup available (Petr Bambousek's work is insane!) It's the reason I don't put much stock into what Tony says about OM's capabilities (although I agree they could stand to expand their audience to other genres as a business decision).

      @AguilaDeOnix85@AguilaDeOnix859 ай бұрын
    • @@AguilaDeOnix85 I saw the OM 90mm macro lens a few months ago, it looks really sweat. The Nikon 200mm f/4D micro lens is unbeaten, though. The smaller lenses for 300mm is definitely a bonus with M43. I think Nikon *must* release the Z6III in the next year. Since you're happy with M43 for now, I'd at least wait for the Z6III. Getting the same processor as the Z9/Z8 will be significant.

      @UnconventionalReasoning@UnconventionalReasoning9 ай бұрын
    • Never heard someone specifically mention "snake photography". Do you share your photos anywhere online?!

      @jordanbabcock9349@jordanbabcock93494 ай бұрын
  • I dropped Canon in the spring when I noticed my EF lenses Image Stabilization never ever turned off on any Canon RF camera with IBIS such as my R6. I tested it out and saw that on my R6 it was on all the time (I tested 7 EF IS lenses). On my wifes RP the EF IS worked no differently then it did on my DSLR's. A Canon RF lens mount camera with IBIS NEVER TURNS YOUR IMAGE STABILZATION OFF!!! And sadly no KZheadr DARES talk about this. But truthfully I dropped Canon because I realized this "flaw" was something they were aware of and the are PURPOSELY trying to wear out your EF lenses Image Stabilization system. Tony SHOULD look into this but he wont. I have been happy with my Sony A7 IV and use a Sigma MC-11 adapter and my Canon IS lenses work no differently then they did on my Canon DSLR cameras. The IS turns off after awhile.

    @classic.cameras@classic.cameras9 ай бұрын
    • That has not been my experience at all.

      @DavidHarrisGRI@DavidHarrisGRI9 ай бұрын
  • It's not only about the body but also the number and quality of lenses.

    @PieterBreda@PieterBreda9 ай бұрын
  • Tony and Chelsea, I appreciate all the hard work you put in to show us all the features of all these very expensive Cameras and Lenses, But I am on Disability and really enjoy photography and there is no way I could ever afford one of these setups. I have been looking at Nikon like the D3s Or D4s as these can be obtained for 500. or less and still have a pro type system could you make some suggestions for very limited budget. thank you in advance Tony

    @TonyLake920@TonyLake9207 ай бұрын
  • Enjoyed the video guys, just kinda surprised you didn't mention the Nikon Z-Fc

    @thestonerguy5276@thestonerguy52769 ай бұрын
  • I beg the whole photo industry to release more gear so you don’t have to produce this kind of videos just to satisfy the algorithm

    @danielsvoboda198@danielsvoboda1989 ай бұрын
  • I want a Fuji XT series in silver. It looks retro, has retro controls, and is small. But I am a Canon user. And a DSLR one at that. I like my massive battery life. I don’t need fancy autofocus because I don’t do video or sports. The choice of lenses for EF is amazing and the used market is getting more and more L lenses at great prices. My plan is to get the D90 and use it into 2030s. Then we’ll see where things are.

    @joebaker5421@joebaker54219 ай бұрын
  • I’m stuck. I’m shooting on a d7100 with 2 solid lenses and 2 ok lenses. I can’t afford to go all the way up to the z8. Should I save money any wait, or spend money on better lenses? Everyone is saying to go to mirrorless now. What should I do?

    @algio3041@algio30416 ай бұрын
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