How To Mouse Bungee with Razer Bungee V2 Review VS Zowie Camade

2024 ж. 26 Сәу.
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Some tips on how to use a mouse bungee based on my experience as well as a look at the Razer Bungee V2, my current choice.
I was using the Zowie Camade for a few years and it's still great but they have a new version coming too, so I'll take a look at that soon with some others.
For this video I just wanted to give the Razer Bungee V2 a bit of a review as well as show how I put cables in them now, how much slack I use and all that.
Hope it helps!
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  • Video also serves as another test ... using the BP40 again but changed settings and didn't alter it in post, so that's how it gets recorded. How does that sound for you? It's a bit bassy on Logitech G560 speakers but then so is everything. Seemed fine in headset. Just trying new things because doing the same kind of videos gets boring. Let me know, thanks!

    @RocketJumpNinja@RocketJumpNinja4 жыл бұрын
    • It’s sounds normal on my iPhone I has a XS Max

      @harman3525@harman35254 жыл бұрын
    • Sounds good to me

      @sodiumchloride9351@sodiumchloride93514 жыл бұрын
    • Sounds a bit bassy on my headset (TB Stealth 450), but maybe that's just how deep your voice is when you're speaking like that. It's not a problem though, I can still clearly understand what you're saying.

      @Najvalsa@Najvalsa4 жыл бұрын
    • Rocket Jump Ninja are you into keyboards as well? I feel like you would love the wonderful world of custom mechanical keyboards :)

      @potion95@potion954 жыл бұрын
    • i dont like it. bit too bassy.

      @olo398@olo3984 жыл бұрын
  • "I just gently slide it through. Eventually it should go in."

    @dustin_echoes@dustin_echoes4 жыл бұрын
    • GachiBass

      @snackz843@snackz8434 жыл бұрын
    • GachiHYPER

      @sb-ng3ch@sb-ng3ch4 жыл бұрын
    • that's what she said

      @zeffmalchazeen3429@zeffmalchazeen34294 жыл бұрын
    • @@zeffmalchazeen3429 she?!?!

      @gobahgaber6909@gobahgaber69094 жыл бұрын
    • "It's a pretty big cable, this one"

      @Kristoffer@Kristoffer4 жыл бұрын
  • I'm surprised the Razer bungee doesn't require an internet connection and login credentials to function properly.

    @MrPimmeh@MrPimmeh4 жыл бұрын
    • PiMMeH and Rgb lights lmao

      @fx_playz8865@fx_playz88654 жыл бұрын
    • @@fx_playz8865 I think that's actually a big shame 😔

      @klaidasrunele@klaidasrunele4 жыл бұрын
    • DON044 _ tbf would be cool with rgb but means more money and less people will buy if they are selling a mouse bungee for like 50-60 dollars😂

      @fx_playz8865@fx_playz88654 жыл бұрын
    • @@fx_playz8865 Ah well they could still sell that one as an 'essential' variant, but at this point I'm trying to get the highest tier with the most rgb, thus got wireless basalisk and dont need the bungee

      @klaidasrunele@klaidasrunele4 жыл бұрын
    • DON044 _ yeah, personally I don’t see a bungee as anything but ‘extra’. I have a full Razer setup with the mamba elite, hunstsman elite and so on, and I probs won’t get the bungee unless I have excessive money lol

      @fx_playz8865@fx_playz88654 жыл бұрын
  • Talk to me more about how you'll slide it in...

    @jameswebb966@jameswebb9664 жыл бұрын
    • LMAO

      @laciewilson8722@laciewilson87224 жыл бұрын
    • thats what she said

      @lavque@lavque3 жыл бұрын
  • Tape and monitor is all the bungie I'll ever need.

    @LeporidaeLadyHunter@LeporidaeLadyHunter4 жыл бұрын
    • We r bros in a weird way..

      @H8338N@H8338N4 жыл бұрын
    • tape and the wall behind the monitor.

      @yourfiend3812@yourfiend38124 жыл бұрын
    • I've tried multiple bungies none of them compare to tape on monitor or wall.

      @emptywhy@emptywhy4 жыл бұрын
    • just find something heavy and dense... small... even rock could be a perfect bungee xD

      @frog382@frog3824 жыл бұрын
    • I been using sort of the same method but I use cable tie anchor with double sided tape and the tiny cable ties. When I want to switch out mice I just clip the cable tie and add the new mouse cable and cable tie and cinch it down. Been using this for over 5 years with all kinds of different mice and still have tons of cable ties left.

      @metalftw75@metalftw754 жыл бұрын
  • Yes now i can use for my Wireless mouse

    @boncattoo@boncattoo4 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for the tip for inserting the cord.

    @iamthehippychannel@iamthehippychannel4 жыл бұрын
  • I love these videos. I always come here before spending money on a product! Thanks!!

    @Squid_nSpace@Squid_nSpace4 жыл бұрын
  • I never thought I'd use a wired mouse again but the MM710 is just too good. Love it. Took me a while to find a comfortable setting with the bungie though, have quite a bit of slack but the cables great so near enough wireless, like you said.

    @SuperLeeBa@SuperLeeBa4 жыл бұрын
  • Really nice review! I sift through a lot of trash information when it comes to reviews of computer peripherals and it's nice to hear such quality, concise descriptions for a change. You touched on everything I had questions about. You're obviously an avid gamer who has dealt with the same frustrations as me. Again, great video!

    @justinfeathers8089@justinfeathers80893 жыл бұрын
  • Zy even gives us a spring sound test comparison. This man is a national treasure!

    @germantrujillo7495@germantrujillo74954 жыл бұрын
  • youre amazing, your reviews are really helpful, just got the MM710 and planning to get this razer v2 bungee

    @yyswux@yyswux4 жыл бұрын
  • Great vid, you have some of the best reviews and guides I have ever seen.

    @grumpythegrimmy9848@grumpythegrimmy98484 жыл бұрын
  • I've been using the G305 for about a year now and I've never had any cable issues nor have I felt the need to use a bungee. I'll definitely keep this in mind tho ;)

    @Ben_R4mZ@Ben_R4mZ4 жыл бұрын
  • super interested in that tropical mousepad! I hope you review it! Thanks for the bungee

    @nguyedou@nguyedou4 жыл бұрын
    • Its made by an esport team grayhound gameing i believe

      @joniniocs7248@joniniocs72484 жыл бұрын
  • God Damn it Man I just got The Zowie Camade myself and I love it.

    @alexthesniper1952@alexthesniper19524 жыл бұрын
  • Just bought the Comade for my UL2 perfect timing!

    @harman3525@harman35254 жыл бұрын
    • Lmao my ul2 left click is starting to break

      @Codahh_@Codahh_4 жыл бұрын
    • FierceFX use the 4 year warranty

      @harman3525@harman35254 жыл бұрын
    • @@harman3525 ik i just sent them an email its just sad to see one pay $120 for a mouse then breaking after 5 weeks like bruh i expect top quality condition tf i dont want to have to deal with sending it to warranty this wouldnt have been a problem if they knew how to produce their own mice right

      @Codahh_@Codahh_4 жыл бұрын
    • My logitech g305 came doa out of the box. You don't see me hating on every little thing. They sent me a new one. Just like finalmouse will.

      @SidewaysShadow@SidewaysShadow4 жыл бұрын
  • I bought the "hotline" mouse bungee, a clone of the zowie camade, but for half the price and you can buy it in black or white with no logo

    @mrswagboss@mrswagboss4 жыл бұрын
    • is it on amazon? i was sort of sketched out by no names bungees but does it work well?

      @matt.paikoff@matt.paikoff3 жыл бұрын
  • I like to have enough wire length out of the bungee to reach the corners of the mouse mat, so that the start of the cable can reach the corners of the mouse mat (with the mouse outside it).

    @Ghanemq8@Ghanemq84 жыл бұрын
    • Same, I prefer to leave enough slack that I reach the bottom left corner (farthest from my bungee) just before the springs bend so I never have any resistance at any point on the pad.

      @Eliminator6363@Eliminator63634 жыл бұрын
  • I thought the Razer Bungee V2 was not compatible with my Logitech mouse until I saw this video! The slide technique is lit. Also nice that a Razer product finally comes out ahead. Thanks!

    @metarra@metarra Жыл бұрын
  • I got the Cougar Bunker on Friday and it's doing great

    @sithbrickanimations2999@sithbrickanimations29994 жыл бұрын
  • Perfect what I needed

    @jaimcmahon4039@jaimcmahon40394 жыл бұрын
  • as A someone with OCD I can say I like your channel and how you consider every possible fear people like me can have Thank you, you’re a good man.

    @Fl0yd-@Fl0yd-4 жыл бұрын
  • thanks for the review, just ordered the Razer

    @mtSails@mtSails4 жыл бұрын
    • cancel the order and check out Unwrap's video.

      @OhhDxffy@OhhDxffy4 жыл бұрын
  • lol never had that problem you pointed out with the cougar bunker. Been using for over 2 years. Bought it after I saw your review

    @TweetyOW@TweetyOW4 жыл бұрын
  • this honestly helped me

    @alexanderclifton3385@alexanderclifton33854 жыл бұрын
  • U have no idea how much u changed my life with this vid.. Not even joking.

    @shynzhaos2266@shynzhaos22664 жыл бұрын
  • Calming vid. I like your style in this one. :)

    @MrMirofl@MrMirofl4 жыл бұрын
  • Nice grayhound mousemat Zy

    @WayStedYou@WayStedYou4 жыл бұрын
  • idk why im watching this, i have a g703 which is wireless but zy's voice is so calm so i watched all 7 mins

    @hoangquan6378@hoangquan63784 жыл бұрын
  • Trying to fit my MM710 cable now in as I just got Razer Bunjee v2 whilst watching your technique :)

    @riyaadallymohamed4055@riyaadallymohamed40554 жыл бұрын
  • Thought about the Grahound mousepad so far? Looks beautiful, kinda want it

    @hognelarsenrhme1703@hognelarsenrhme17034 жыл бұрын
  • Picked up a model d and razer v2 bungee after hearing you mention the bungee in a video. Never used one because my main mouse is a g pro wireless but bungees are a real game charger for somebody who hated wired mice getting caught on everything

    @kursna@kursna3 жыл бұрын
  • U should do a review on the g wolves hati. I would love to see ur view on it

    @mizt.@mizt.4 жыл бұрын
    • G pro wireless copy

      @Oystein.Machiavelli@Oystein.Machiavelli4 жыл бұрын
    • and model O copied fk1 shape? Does it make it a worse mouse? No. They took a popular design and made it better.

      @ollier6@ollier64 жыл бұрын
    • @@ollier6 yeah i know but zy isnt reviewing copies

      @Oystein.Machiavelli@Oystein.Machiavelli4 жыл бұрын
    • @@Oystein.Machiavelli his loss

      @ollier6@ollier64 жыл бұрын
    • ollie he's doing the M4 soon and it's kinda like the Skoll just a few fixes that make the M4 better

      @heart4011@heart40114 жыл бұрын
  • i just got the razer v3 and i love it!

    @B3_6@B3_63 жыл бұрын
  • I used my razer bungee a bit to tight, thank you for the advice testing it now some weeks

    @mihawk868@mihawk8683 жыл бұрын
    • bro razer bungee v2 or v3? better for csgo?

      @mamaddiaco9000@mamaddiaco90003 жыл бұрын
  • I like the videos like this from time to time, more relaxed & laid back. but for bigger mouse reviews the official style feels more “high budget” if that makes any sense

    @justinnguyen602@justinnguyen6024 жыл бұрын
  • that mousepad is beautiful

    @Ghanemq8@Ghanemq84 жыл бұрын
  • I have both but I had the Razer one for longer. I eventually switched to the zowie one because it was easier to use while mounting it side ways on my desk.

    @chrisdotdash5154@chrisdotdash51544 жыл бұрын
  • I like the amount of slack you use.. I’ve seen videos where people have little to no slack it doesn’t seem natural and it’s a lot on tension on the mouse wire where is connects

    @wintersoldier4269@wintersoldier42694 жыл бұрын
  • Hey RJN, can you please do an updated mousepad video? Thanks

    @K1SHY0NG@K1SHY0NG4 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah reviewing Artisan pads soon (Tech Yes City got some for me), so I'll talk about pads in that video.

      @RocketJumpNinja@RocketJumpNinja4 жыл бұрын
    • Rocket Jump Ninja artisan? The gods have given the gods a god

      @sebeanle@sebeanle4 жыл бұрын
    • @@RocketJumpNinja Everyone like that.

      @LilacFPS@LilacFPS4 жыл бұрын
    • @@RocketJumpNinja im intrested in buying a new mat, but im not sure if the color of the mouse pad matters to the mouse tracking or not so im happy you are doing a mat video

      @goldie7931@goldie79314 жыл бұрын
    • Haha yea tech yes city is goving him 3 artisan pad for a ul2

      @jasondeng3820@jasondeng38204 жыл бұрын
  • Best bungee: a wireless mouse, jk! Nice video!

    @55knifedamage41@55knifedamage414 жыл бұрын
    • Thats actually true, exactly the reason i got wireless mouse.

      @Navhkrin@Navhkrin4 жыл бұрын
    • Cougar

      @bysaturnplay@bysaturnplay4 жыл бұрын
    • I'm just waiting for an ergonomical right hand only mouse that has a medium size or for a g303, after that i can rest in peace

      @55knifedamage41@55knifedamage414 жыл бұрын
    • @@55knifedamage41 g402 or g502?

      @a999g21@a999g214 жыл бұрын
    • @@a999g21 a mouse that's over 100g it's not playable for me, plus the thumb thing that is touching the mousepad is awkward for me to.. razer or zowie ergo shape work's best for me

      @55knifedamage41@55knifedamage414 жыл бұрын
  • wow I bought one it arrived today I start my pc and see your video

    @cedi8027@cedi80274 жыл бұрын
  • Tell me more about this sliding technique...

    @rigzyfps@rigzyfps4 жыл бұрын
  • How do you like the mouse pad? I want to replace it with my old one.

    @chrismorales7516@chrismorales75164 жыл бұрын
  • Talking about mouse pads. Would love to see you try the Xtrfy Heaton. Very low friction plastic pad. Since the trend is having low weight mice where you need less force to move, I argue that having low resistance pads can also be an advantage. Especially with small mouse movements. I feel that on my Heaton the mouse isn't "sticky" when not in motion. The force to start a motion where there is friction involved is always higher than the force once the object is in motion and that force difference feels much smaller on good plastic pads.

    @lahzy7851@lahzy78514 жыл бұрын
  • So what bungee you recommend more? There are some cheap Hotline Games bungee which people say are just the same as the Camade but cheaper.

    @shilo.5087@shilo.50874 жыл бұрын
  • As far as inserting the cable goes on the Razer V2, the rubber part bends enough so that you can slightly bend the opening open and put the cable in, and release the rubber part so that it closes on the cable.

    @orion55@orion554 жыл бұрын
  • Highly recommend the cougar bunker, very satisfied with it!

    @HellMan0616@HellMan06164 жыл бұрын
    • Watch the video. That is definitely not a recommendation.

      @RocketJumpNinja@RocketJumpNinja4 жыл бұрын
    • @@rdmz135 I've had mine for 2 years now, has not moved a mm. Great price too vs all these razer stuff

      @HellMan0616@HellMan06164 жыл бұрын
  • Yeah you mentioned the model o wire being bad and you’re right mine keeps disconnecting. Hopefully glorious does something about this.

    @yugiohcentral7076@yugiohcentral70764 жыл бұрын
  • yeah I agree with the slack I like to have enough slack so that I can go beyond the bottom end of my mousepad a little like half the mouse length

    @joker-ze2tm@joker-ze2tm4 жыл бұрын
  • good thing that i bought the g pro wireless yesterday :D

    @spikezz8964@spikezz89644 жыл бұрын
    • Kryses Spike have u heard about the razer viper ultimate

      @souperman6406@souperman64064 жыл бұрын
    • Souperman That’s awsome, i’ll probably buy tge viper

      @gabrielefidanza4903@gabrielefidanza49034 жыл бұрын
    • @@souperman6406 that shit ass

      @spikezz8964@spikezz89644 жыл бұрын
  • another good vid i bought the camade the other day but can see the reason for a lighter mouse bungee

    @tomcardno1@tomcardno14 жыл бұрын
  • That mouse pad looks super wavy

    @d_white5160@d_white51604 жыл бұрын
  • Kinda off-topic here but could you make a playlist of all your "How To Get Good" videos? That would be great!

    @joniav93@joniav934 жыл бұрын
  • With the Razor Bungee V2 you can bend it so that it opens more and let the bigger cable in and the it closes on it.

    @diluted906@diluted9064 жыл бұрын
  • Zy, I'm wanting a mousepad to go with a Zowie S2. Wich one is te best?

    @raphael4556@raphael45564 жыл бұрын
  • Razer mouse bungee v2 is amazing it's a must buy and way better then the v1 where I constantly had to poor hot water to maintain it being sticky

    @luckduck5031@luckduck50314 жыл бұрын
  • I went from logitech pro wireless to ultralight 2 recently and I'm still not used to the slight drag of the paracord cable, if I use a bungee I have to keep the cable length so short to keep the cable in the air and off the mouse pad to make it feel closer to wireless.

    @turbanelite@turbanelite3 жыл бұрын
  • Ty, I'm finnaly know how to use mouse bungee because I was using it upside down

    @plathiplorluelert8812@plathiplorluelert88124 жыл бұрын
  • really waiting for this review to ordering one

    @atahanongun8148@atahanongun81484 жыл бұрын
  • i like the greyhound mouse pad very approved

    @jamesmayo7327@jamesmayo73274 жыл бұрын
  • i have a speaker behind my monitor, so i just used that to do that cable dongle hahah, guess that's gotta be a creativity

    @Mboy556@Mboy5563 жыл бұрын
  • Wtf I've had a Camade for over a year and had no idea the head came off like that

    @TheJohnnIV@TheJohnnIV4 жыл бұрын
  • thanks for your video, i am confusing which one i will buy, after this video i think i will go Razer, more flexibility, and better quality, thank you so much!

    @KK-yn5mw@KK-yn5mw4 жыл бұрын
  • i have the razer bungee v2 and it works perfectly with my g402. And in the UK its about £10 less (or at least it was when i got it)

    @joemichael9521@joemichael95214 жыл бұрын
    • Joe yeetus deletus nice i buy it have the same mouse btw

      @senzy8782@senzy87824 жыл бұрын
  • How do you feel about using tennis overground tape on mice for people whose hands sweat?

    @anteasocial__3424@anteasocial__34244 жыл бұрын
  • Hey, could you do a comparison between zowie gsr (regular black) and the gsr se deep blue?

    @slawekmincewicz@slawekmincewicz4 жыл бұрын
    • Regular GSR has more resistance than the SE surprisingly. And the SE seems to stay in place better because it doesn't have stitched edges.

      @Eliminator6363@Eliminator63634 жыл бұрын
  • For years I used the clip that came with my 2005ish func 1030 mat the mat wore out years ago but kept the clip and screwed it directly to my desk until I bought a wireless mouse 2 years ago. I I always swore I would never buy wireless but I honestly can't tell much latency and nowadays not too fussed about trying to be the best Logitech g403 wireless.

    @mrkeefor@mrkeefor4 жыл бұрын
  • Hi I liked the vid! Just wondering of getting the razer bungee you mentioned for my razer viper mouse because the cord keeps getting snagged on my mouse mat stitching. Do you think a mouse bungee is worth it?

    @MrJunksynchron@MrJunksynchron3 жыл бұрын
    • It's a bit late, but figured I'd reply to you just in case you were still wondering. I'd recommend it, because even with speed flex cables or para cord cables, there will still be a bit of drag without one, which increases the perceivable weight. This would create constant situations where the force needed to move the mouse will alter your aim. Mouse bungees dramatically reduce, but don't totally eliminate it. Yet, bungees are totally worth it for anyone using a corded mouse, especially light weight mice, as the drag would be even more noticeable.

      @stevensavage2684@stevensavage26843 жыл бұрын
  • Is the Cooler Master MM710 in white just not officially out yet? I can only find the matte black one.

    @bruhman1520@bruhman15204 жыл бұрын
  • Will you be reviewing the G-Wolves Hati?

    @thorv1k@thorv1k4 жыл бұрын
  • amazing mic

    @mystic5486@mystic54863 жыл бұрын
  • @Rocket Jump Ninja I just got my Glorious Model O-. what bungee do you think should i get? Razer Mouse Bungee V2? Zowie Camade? or should i wait for the new zowie mouse bungee?

    @eclipx@eclipx4 жыл бұрын
  • Would connecting the mouse to the monitor, and remove the slack help? Or is there more latency from the monitor usb then directly mouse connected to the PC?

    @raczyk@raczyk4 жыл бұрын
  • Yep have some of that slack especially for CS:GO players... I use a medium-high sens 400@2.7 but most players are even lower than that. Look up NiKo warming up he has a TON of slack. Thanks for pointing this out because most reviews I see have it totally wrong.

    @GanDtech@GanDtech3 жыл бұрын
  • Lowkey like the greyhound mousepad

    @aizee@aizee4 жыл бұрын
  • I actually used a small hangers that used for keys and taped it to the wall

    @archfxt3619@archfxt36194 жыл бұрын
  • Does the Zowie Camade stick well enough to the glorious 3xL?

    @evolutionturbo5652@evolutionturbo56524 жыл бұрын
    • yes, doesnt move, until you, well move too much

      @Flaxify@Flaxify4 жыл бұрын
  • Are you going to review the pulse fire dart,

    @collinheywood4465@collinheywood44654 жыл бұрын
  • nice review

    @39alpha@39alpha2 жыл бұрын
  • @Rocket Jump Ninja Could you do a video on best mouse mat for low edpi players?

    @nate00slo@nate00slo4 жыл бұрын
    • anything big lol... hardpad if you prefer speed and cloth if you prefer control

      @FSXgta@FSXgta4 жыл бұрын
  • the only mouse guy I trust

    @Bigma6400@Bigma64004 жыл бұрын
  • Nice video, can you try Engame Gear bungee?

    @Victor-wy7yc@Victor-wy7yc4 жыл бұрын
  • How is that mouse pad? Wish we got more mousepad reviews!!

    @TheSubieFan@TheSubieFan4 жыл бұрын
  • That xtrfy Greyhound tropical mousepad is super sexy! Does it glide well?

    @Xotwod69@Xotwod694 жыл бұрын
  • Loop your mouse cable around a fitting spot of your monitor stand and leave enough slack for your mouse moving needs. Better than a bungee (elevates your cable higher) and is one less thing eating space on your desk. Or just tape your mouse wire to the back of your monitor, that works too. In conjunction with the cable tie mod you can say good bye to cable drag. Bungee is a unnecessarily complicated solution to a simple problem.

    @SaltyMaud@SaltyMaud4 жыл бұрын
  • Are you going to review Zaunkoenig M1k?

    @ambidex0med@ambidex0med4 жыл бұрын
  • Please do a review of the G Wolves Hati.

    @ea164@ea1644 жыл бұрын
  • the only razer product i’ve bought is that bungee and it works perfectly.

    @papazype@papazype4 жыл бұрын
  • The Cougar Bunker is the best one because of the suction cup.

    @AniAddictDaisuken@AniAddictDaisuken4 жыл бұрын
  • I have a questiok about mice now, my hand is about 19x10 and would the g pro or the g pro wireless be better for my handsize?

    @Oystein.Machiavelli@Oystein.Machiavelli4 жыл бұрын
  • Ay nice grayhound mousepad

    @clydesfries9295@clydesfries92954 жыл бұрын
  • Fancy doing a mouse pad general discussion video with maybe some input from other gamers you know?

    @andrewterry8661@andrewterry86614 жыл бұрын
  • Can you do a review on the ceramic mouse feet by lexip? I've heard they're way better than hyperglides and I'd like to hear your opinion on them.

    @liamdyson9362@liamdyson93624 жыл бұрын
  • So 👀 how’s that mousepad

    @killjoyis4138@killjoyis41384 жыл бұрын
  • I put my Zowie Camde on a small plastic box to give it extra height, so there's no cable trailing on the mousepad and can still get full motion without pulling on the mouse bungee, i wonder why there aren't taller mouse bungees of a similar design

    @paulbradshawguitar@paulbradshawguitar4 жыл бұрын
  • I used to have a cheap bungee when i used g403 .. now i use the razer bungee v2 and zowie s2 black version.. seems like the cheap one works best for me

    @lukematthewumusig8650@lukematthewumusig86504 жыл бұрын
  • Any tips for a bungee with a desk with a draw?

    @WhatsHisName666@WhatsHisName6663 жыл бұрын
  • has cooler master sent out any updates on when the white mm710 will be released?

    @Quuantix@Quuantix4 жыл бұрын
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