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Will you review the G4ME One?(the open ones)
Thanks for the review, was considering to get this for simplicity over a headphone and external mic, but I don't only game and would like to appreciate music and audio in other areas.
really love this channel. keep up the great work Z !
I bought a pair of those G4ME ZERO's and a pair of the open back G4ME ONE's. I sent the Zero's back. I pull my nice HD600's out only a few times a year because they have to be tethered to the amp, and even if I had a portable amp, the 10ft cord is too long to walk around with. However, I use my G4ME ONE's about 16 hours a day, for gaming, KZhead, listening to music, podcasts, audio books, phone calls, KZhead recording, everything. They've got comfort, they've got easy to drive quality sound, and they've got a mic. They're perfect. I have two, one in each color. I even sleep in them. I haven't really taken them off in years.
But what about footsteps?
M40x (and M50x) actually can use the BoomPro, it's just a simple mod to remove the proprietary locking mechanism in the cable jack and then you slap on a 2.5mm-to-3.5mm adapter. Same deal with the Sennheiser 5x8 series, which I actually did on my 558. I basically slapped together a Game One headset for less money. And can I tell ya something, it's the bee's knees.
Looking at the picture while you're discribing the pads, it makes so much sense.... :)
EVERYONE knows that gaming gear makes you game 100x much gooder. These are well known facts. If you don't have blinking Chroma™ LED's on everything, you aren't a real gamer.
i find this so funny and i don't know why
Because there are a certain number of people who actually believe that gaming gear makes them better.
The only RGB LEDs I have are in my monitor. #RealGamer
CaveManta I had to think for a moment to get that one. :(
ZOMG I actually lied, to be honest. Red, green, and blue pixels are separated in display monitors. And the LEDs are purely white-light-emitting. =\
Dude I love your reviews. So glad I came across your channel
The GAME ONE has open cans.
You don't think he knows that?
? ? He was complaining about the closed cans of the GAME ZERO, so I pointed out the version of the same headphones with open cans.
TheOriginalFayari Yeah well the review is on the Game Zero, so that has no relevance
TheOriginalFayari so does the audio technica pdg1
Akseli K incorrect.
Can you review the Game One, since they are the open back version of these?
Z can you please do Beyerdynamic mmx300 ?
The "Game One/Zero" headsets are based on the "HD 598". Since the 598's are a decent set of cans I wonder what changes were made regarding the drivers to make the audio curve more appealing for gaming vs their original design/intended use. I understand how standard home/auto speakers differ in materials and design to determine the desired curve and response but I'm completely ignorant when it comes to these dynamic drivers in headsets/headphones. From what I understand they all appear to use the same material.
Appreciate your sense of quality, keep it up
I'm going back and forth between my Sennheiser HD598+Modmic 4.0 and my new Hifiman HE350s I finally got from MassDrop. HD598s definitely win the comfort test without a doubt, but I'm not sure about the sound yet. Still burning in the HE350s. Already, they're a pretty compelling value for only $100.
How do you compare these to the Takstar pro 80 / hyperX Cloud in terms of music listening and gaming? I could get them for the same price.
Thank you for your review. I just discovered this channel and subscribed. However, the head mounted camera angle is giving me motion sickness with (what feels like) the jerkiness of the movement! Any chance you can statically mount it or something please? Thanks
Trying to make a decision on some all around headphones - I'd say 70/30 gaming/music. Trying to decide between the AT 40's with your recommended accessories and the X2's. These will be used a majority of the time at my home office so open or closed back doesn't really matter to me. Also budget isn't really an issue, but saving some clams never really hurt. Thanks in advance Z.
SHP 9500 for fun relaxed gaming, MSR7 for more competitive both with V-moda Boom Pro obviously although many people told me that the inline mic from the MSR7 sounded really good.
OK here goes. Zeo, what do u think of the sennheiser game one? Looking for an "all in one" kinda deal. Gaming (footsteps, footsteps and soundstage) for online shooters, sometimes movies and of course for music. I would like to get in to this whole audiophile thing. I was blown away from a friends sennys hd 598 and he told me that theres many more better options for music. But like i said im looking for something that has it all at 600e (650$) or less. Obviously i like sennheisers although i dont have much of experience. Im between the game one, hd 598 se and hd 700. Thanks.
Katō Danzō im in the same boat lets hope he responds
Do you think you'll ever review the new Steelseries Arctis headsets? I only ask since it seems to be Steelseries trying really hard to make a gaming headset not be a gaming headset and I'm curious if they've accomplished anything good with them. Still sticking with my SHP9500s and a BoomPro regardless though.
Hey Zeos I'm REALLY new to this whole audio game and your channel has helped me learn a ton. I have a pair of AKG K553s that should be arriving any day now, I saw your review on the SMSL SD793-II and am wondering how much better they would make my 553s sound as opposed to my on-board ALC898 chipset and if the difference would be drastic enough that I should it them. Thanks in advance.
They're pretty low on ohms so they wouldn't benefit as much as higher ohm headphones. The saying is not everyone will benefit from a good amp, but everyone can benefit from a good amp. ~Zeos.
I've since seen your review on the Micca Origen+ and am really intrigued, kinda wanna buy one ;) does the same go with that DAC/AMP? Or since it is more expensive would I get slightly better audio quality than I would from the SD793. If so then I will grab one.
Papa Ghas I see where you got confused. Not the legend himself I was just quoting him, sorry about that. But I think they're about the same audio quality just from watching his videos.
Ahh I thought it was a secondary account. I would still really appreciate Zeos' input on whether I should go with the onboard, SD793 or Origen+.
Papa Ghas Yeah sorry about that confusion.
I purchased these about a month ago and for gaming they are great and much, much better than my previous Turtle Beach gaming headset for around the same price. I feel that they are excellent for music when hooking them up to a board with a powered amp. Otherwise I use my KRK KNS-8400 headphones.
Okay Z, it's that time of year again. It's my birthday! I'm gratefully able to treat myself with 200-300 dollars of nothing but audio equipment! I'm looking for the absolute BEST headphone and DAC combo for this price range. I've taken into account the Micca OriGen+ but there's SO many headphones to choose from. I'm just looking for ABSOLUTE musical BLISS (with this budget). ((Keep in mind I've only ever had in-ear headphones and a pair of some over ear Skullcandy's, so this is going to be an insane step up.)) Would also like to say I listen to alot of different genres from Electronic, Hip Hop/Rap, Metal, Ambient, stuff like that.
The Fidelio X2's (linked in the description) and whatever you can get to power them. They are my goto for lololo fun.
Another great video Z. I have used many different headphones for gaming including several recommended on this channel. X2s are the best hands down, especially with the option to BoomPro them. As far as a top tier 'headset' I have to also give mention to the Audio Technica ADG1/X. They pretty much took an AD700/900X & added a great mic to it. With those eBay pads they are one of the most comfortable & best sounding options out there.
"Audio Technica ADG1/X" This is overpriced as fuck, just like the Game Zero.
You definitely pay alot more for the inbuilt mic, but for an 'all-in-one' package I think the ADG1 is one of the best. The most overpriced headset BY FAR is the Beyer MMX 300. I have used them in the past & did not feel they were worth anywhere near their insane cost.
Hey z, do you still prefer the ZMF cowhide pads over the Brainwavz for the m40x? Just want to make sure. ty in adv 😊
Hey Z, have you considered checking out the Senn GSX1000? Bit of an interesting "gaming dac".
Hi Zeos, I was just wondering whether I should get a G4me One from Sennheiser or ADG1x from Audio Technica. I am looking for a balance between competitive and immersion. This is a dedicated gaming setup with surround, a music setup I have. Which one is of better quality and is better in your opinion or others? Thanks, -Solemn-
What earpad replacements will fit these? Do the Neomusicia sheepskins fit? These earpads are so hard to find. Thank you in advance! I currently have the HM5s on them and they sound horrible. Mine are the older version without the removable cable and with the lower impedance level of 150
Hey Zeos, I just sorted your videos chronologically and saw your "ultimate test vid" with the speedrun from SDA. Do you follow a lot of speedruns? If so, what kinda games?
I had a 2 day phase back in the day where those were interesting. But don't follow them now.
Great Video! Thanks
For gaming i would recommend the BD mmx 300 headset.
Sennheiser Game One's are open-back. IIRC same drivers as the 558/598. They're super comfy and sound great. Velour pads. I think you would much prefer them.
The predecessor to these headphones is the PC360. It was open and I own a pair. Yes, it's just like you said regarding directional audio (as expected) for gaming. The issue I had is that it triggers the mic easily so you can't turn them up very loud. The fact these are closed are basically the only difference to me besides the way they are built, in comparison to the PC360 (oh yeah and the PC360 had soft earpads instead of whatever is on these.. not velour but something soft). Because of this I use a stand-alone mic and DT770 (I listen to a lot of music). Honestly the DT770 is pretty great for shooter games despite being closed and known as "bassy". Also there's more than just footsteps but it depends on the game. But yeah, mids for footsteps are great for comp shooters. And you mention again footsteps being "highs". This must be in single player action first person shooters or some of these crappy COD games or something.. The only footsteps I've ever heard were most noticeable with mids. When I and friends used to have crappy headphones we'd tweak our EQ to remove the lows and highs to make footsteps most noticeable.
I used to have the Pc360's which were basically hd 558's I think with the mic, open too. I would say they were good but they were only a little bit less than x2's
ofc bc the x2 go lots and lots of bass and the pc360 is a gaming headset with focus on the treble
More headset and sound bar reviews!!
Zeos, can't you just use an equaliser to adjust the headphones to your needs? Like if a cheaper headphone needs more high end, just dial it in? I always hear reviewers criticising the sound signature of particular headphones and speakers for that matter, but I just don't get why they don't change the sound with an eq to their liking. I get that reviewers are trying to explain how a certain product sounds with no other influence, but I am confused as to why people say to shy away from some products when an eq could fix the problem. Could you please explain? Cheers mate.
Well couldn't you just change suspension and tires and rims and air intakes on your Acura and turn it into a corvette? Same deal. The frequencies don't mean everything with a headphone. Imaging and soundstage and how the sound is projected and captured inside the cups matter as much or more. So trimming the highs doesn't fix all the other things that are making the sound poor.
Also equalization fundamentally changes sound by altering the waveform. In effect, every bit of equalization you do is reducing the sound quality. I'm not against equalization, but the less you need to do, the better.
What's the best headphones over hear under 200$ you can get at the moment? I'd like to get into audio gear bit by bit and i'd like to try some open headphones with sound just as it was recorded
I had the PC350s, which is exactly just 380 Pros with a mic. This is the only line of gaming headsets I've ever been able to recommend to anyone. But your spot on with the footsteps. In my opinion, they did two things; footsteps and voice. And the mic was nice. But I loved the 350s for sitting on Skype with my friends, and I play games where footsteps is all I wanna hear. Of course, I still always prefer open cans with a ModMic for gaming.
Mads Sørensen Is there any difference between the PC 350 and Game Zero?
Jack Hart I think the main difference is the appearance and build. The PC350s looked exactly like the 380s, but the Game Zero is a further defined design, aimed at gamers. But i do believe they have most likely tweeked/improved the sound a bit, and knowing Sennheiser, they probably did a great job with it. The most interesting thing is that they have two versions of it now, the Game Zero and the Game One, which is a semi-open version of the Zero.
Game One is basically the HD598 as a headset.
@Jack of Hearts: In the review, Z says that the HD598 kills the Game ZERO. So Game One > Game Zero?
Man I want to see a head to head of the Game Zeros vs. the Game Ones (open design).
i have theses and have hours of usage like i use my headphones for at least a few hours a day and the only complaint i have is the ear cups are shit and they can get hot wearing but they are realy comfy
Them anime backgrounds
This one is, like, one of the best yet.
You are the man Z.
Review Game One. It's open acoustics. please!
I bought those, tried them on, put them back in the box an hour later and sent them back the day after. Sound and mic was ok, but the comfort was awful even compared to my crappy corsair wireless headset.
***** I had the oposite experience. For me it was very comfortable headset to use [which isn't hard compared that I moved from Razer crappy Kraken Chroma], but I got a little disappointed about the sound. I was expecting an open sound stage or airy sound considering that they are open acoustic, but for me they feel just like a closed one but with leaking sound if you know what I mean. Some people say that a amp/dac could change the experience a little. Such a shame that here in Brazil, returning a product is really really hard and bureaucratic process.
How would you compare the sound between these and the Beyerdynamic dt 990 250ohm?
Like others have said check out the g4me ones as they're open acoustics. I'd like to know what you think of them as I have the earlier version the pc 360s and honestly I think the directionality of my sennheiser 600s is better. Left/right and footsteps is better on 600s up and down is better on 360s (g4me one).
I seriously considered buying the Sennheiser G4me Zero Headset for some pro gaming with my Mechwarrior Online Team. I went another way. I ended up buying the Sennheiser HD6 Mix headphones, Blue Yeti Blackout USB Mic, Rode PS1 Mic Arm, Blue Radius II shock mount, Schiit Modi 2 DAC and Schiit Magni 2 Headphone amp. I spent $600 but, I'll never use crappy gaming headsets again. After seeing your review, I am so super glad that I didn't buy the G4ME Zero's for $169 on Amazon. The HD6 Mix headphones are great for my electronic music and gaming, but it's going to take awhile to get used to their tight fit. They tend to get a little uncomfortable during gaming sessions over 4 hours. Regardless, I love my setup!
Audio Technica also has a gaming headset... looks interesting.
I owned the Game Zero. Just ordered the new GSP 600.
Beyerdynamic dt 990 pros are THE BEST sound and the MOST comfortable studio headset for gaming I have ever tried
what amp are you running?
Do you know of any rubber cable replacement for these headphones? I hate the braided cables they include.
Try the little brother. Game One. Open and different pads.
OMG, these were catapulted out of my Amazon cart as soon as you said *"footsteps"*.
JAnx01 when
Is this the best gaming headset on the market ? Strictly gaming. I play mostly first person shooters.
Can you review the Hyperx Cloud Revolver? Some people say that it is a good headset
I am new to headphones, and was looking for a solid headset that could do everything (gaming and music). I went with these, and I am finding them a bit uncomfortable. Maybe it is just me, but the pressure on my head is hard to bear for long sessions, and I cant even wear my glasses with these. Idk, I'm considering returning these. Sound quality is great tho.
Totally agree with you.... I bought these on a whim at microcenter while I was at a lan event and was pretty disappointed in the sound. I wanted something for music and gaming and they are absolutely not that. They are ok for footsteps, positional audio etc but they just don't sound nice. They live in my work bag now for skype calls.
Please can you do a review on the new Sennheiser GSP500/600 headsets
No more love for Philips SHP9500 + Boompro under open cans? 😿😿😿
FFF thank you
visuallin he would most likely choose that setup over the 380 Pro anyday
lol you're most welcome.
Guys please tell me which is better philips fidelio x2 or hifiman he 350?
Actually I can't tell you because ultimately, it's what sounds best to YOUR ears. But I would lean towards the X2 if I had to.
6:29 actually made me laugh pretty hard not gunna lie 😂👍
The Game Ones are open cans
Thoughts on the PC37x?
review the game ones they are open
what about the Status Audio OB-1 Open Back, su suggest the closed version, but what about the open ones?
I have the Game Ones and am curious to know if anyone else experiences what I do with them. (or if the same is true with the Zeros) When I plug them into a device and turn up the volume on that system when the volume knob on the headset set to its lowest point, it feels as if the full range of sound increases equally. I don't know if the One's are based on 558s or 518s and I haven't heard those so I can't compare the sound, I've read online that other people say they sound very similar to the 558s. Anyway that sound they produce in this scenario is nice, I think so at least. I definitely prefer it over the murder everything M50s, much easier on the ears and the soul. Anyway, back on topic. Things change when I leave the system volume at its lowest point and turn up volume using only the knob on the side of the headset. It's all vocals and high hats really. When listening to music, all that body in the low end is gone when I just alter volume with the knob. I assume this is their gaming blood making its presence shown, with this knob being a "pro gamer slider" or something like that. If that's the case could get the best of both worlds, if they sound good in either case that is. Has anyone else experienced this with the Ones or the Zeroes? I'm not bothered by this as I leave the knob at its lowest point and adjust volume using system controls, I prefer that more low end focused sound anyway. I'm just curious to know other peoples' experience. Also if anyone here has experienced both the Ones and 558s or 518s and can report on their similarity that'd be neat.
Hey, Zeos I've been looking into getting a new pair of headphones. I'm trying to choose between the hd600 and the t50rp mk3. I curently have the hd598s and I'm not quite happy with them. which pair would you recommend if price isn't an issue?
600's are great. T50 are great but need a whompin' amp.
Z Reviews Thanks
Can you do a review about the sennheiser game one? ( It's a open back version of the game zero)
Open v Closed is why when they released I got the Game One, instead. Lovely headset.
Hi, I know this video's been out awhile ago, but if you could would you mind doing a -compatible- comparable review with Game Zero (prefer Game One, but Zero is still fine) vs. Corsair VOID PRO RGB Wireless SE Premium Gaming Headset? THANK YOU! edited
So if you want a pair for gaming and it should be Sennheiser what should we buy? I just have a onboard soundcard like 99% of all other gamers. I dont need any mic on my headset.
Game zero and gsp 500 are open gaming headsets
I'm curious, do STAX bro earspeakers do anything for gaming compared to something like the 2000x or X2?
Ive only gamed in them for like 20 minutes because they are mostly on my review desk.
Will you review the Sharkk Bravo headphones at some point? :)
Yes. I have a set done and waiting for release.
My tryhard gaming 'headset' HD668B with Brainwaves hybrid pads (yep, the pads double the price for the headphones!) and modmic.. footsteps for days but an extra wire and all for less than 100.. regular gaming is always X2's and boompro so convenient and sounds so good.
ayohell What the fuck brainwavz pads fit on hd668b's?
Yeah, a little overkill but they stretch right over the edges fine.
Holy shit! I have leather ones on my modded hi2050's (surprisingly the sound signature has improved with the confort instead of getting all shitty as i'd expect with leather on open backs)... now i want new velour ones for my superluxes,they are soooo confortable
Nothing wrong with putting nice pads on cheap phones.. I am running the HM5 velours on my 668 and $60 ZMF Omni's on my rare as fuck closed set of $45 Superlux 669's.
It's a shame the hm5 pads cost,like 200 reais here in Brazil. I had the pleather ones delivered in usa and sent to me so i could get them cheaper than that. Well at least they look and feel awesome on my HI2050's so i might try to order again for my hd668b's and put the velour ones that are on those on my isk hp580's so i can sell them modded because they sound disgusting for music plus.google.com/113024317535155896010/posts/DiSgMAKdDc4
What do you think about the fostex t50rp mkiii for gaming and music?
Z! what software do you use to display your music with backgrounds on your screen?
Foobar2000 with transparency turned on.
Ventrilo? Didn't realize you were a plebian...
Curious if you've ever had a chance to check out the HyperX Cloud and how these compare.
See my Takstar Pro80 review.
Have you reviewed those status CB1s you linked for closed? Having trouble finding it if so, only found the OB-1
There was one set left when I linked it.. I have the review ready to go.. They are pretty fucking great.. FFFFFF
Ah I meant trouble finding the review, there's still a couple in stock as far as I can see. Very much looking forward to it!
So I have this headset, what do you recommend me to do?
I had the turtle beach x12 with earforce dss and i got these and they cant compare honestly.how is the shp9500 compare to these fore gaming ,music and movies
How does the clamp on these compare to the 380 Pros? Your 380 video said there was a lot but I have the Game Zeros and I don't feel much clamp on them at all.
Yeah 380's are tighter.
Hm okay that's a shame. Really love the Game Zeros for comfort, thought the 380s were what I was looking for for headphones. My search continues. Thanks!
review the 363d headphones, they're open, and actually REALLY good for the price, the mic is great, semi comfortable in comparison to my 650hd, and the sound quality is far above any "gaming" headset advertised around 150 dollars
The only gaming headset that has caught my eye since I was turned onto good headphones are the Audio Technica ATH-ADG1 or the newer Audio Technica ATH-ADG1X. I have owned all sorts of gaming headsets starting with the RAZER Barracuda HP-1 and ending with the Psyko 5.1. All of which are crap compared to lets say my Sennheiser 598SE or my AKG K7XX. You want to hear footsteps the my new Massdrop x HiFiMAN HE-350 do that really well.
i like to send you my Astro A 50 to review how do i do that
Message me on reddit.
I would like to see this too
Are the Gaming Zero much better for gaming than ATH-m40x? I'm this type of gamer who like the most hear steps. :) I also like the music and I listen a lot music on headphones. That's why I would like to find a headphones what could be good for music and gaming. Headphones with low stage of bass to be able hear steps clearly but also good music. I wonder about ATH-m40x with pads recommended by you and this Sennheiser Game Zero. What shloud I pick in your opionons or maybe other model?
Do the M40x.
Thank you mam! :) I will follow by your advice and I will tell you how I like m40x. :)
What headphone sounds better? These or the m40x?
Sennheiser Game One, Qpad QH-85 if you want an open back gaming headset
Gonna get my first pair of actually good headphones for my birthday today. DT770 COMING SOON! Thank you Zeos for opening me up to a new world. Since joining JBL as a promoter ( the bluetooth shit line ) I'v tried to research audio and went past the bluetooth and found you. Big thanks for opening my eyes wide. And thanks to you I'm now addicted to audio, although with a lot of willpower lol
You should hang out on my telegram.me/zreivews
Z Reviews sureee. I will enjoy nerd gatherings.
Hey Z, should I get angled MVX for my m40x? (cant afford the ones u use lmao) Thanks!
yes.
+Z Reviews Thank you! Do they sound tinny with those? Because apparently the m40-50s get tinnier with the normal hm5 pads?
nice review
I had the Game Ones (not going to Dignify Sennheiser's 1337 spelling), and thought that they were alright. I ended up actually EQing the highs _up_, and they sounded a lot like the AD700X that I got later (and is also the reason I have five pairs of headphones now).
Do you just switch between headphones occasionally just to have something different?
Would you recommend an amp for this headset?
please review more crap headphones
A crappy headphone special would actually be pretty funny, but not as a continuing series, maybe just a special.
I wonder if he'd find the AKG K518LE to be crappy. Hmm.. I oughta send him one.
What would be the perfect all around headphones below $600 mark? I am thinking to get Pryma Headphones...
I haven't heard the Pryma but they seem like a lot of style and not a ton of science. No Response graphs or driver specifics. For that money you can get the ZMF Blackwoods or Fostex 610's [amzn.to/2eDqZkK] OR a good open and closed set and really cover your bases. (Fidelio X2 and B&O H6)
I agree with Pryma that's why I am hesitant to purchase it. Fostex 610's seems to always have discounted price on Massdrop. I will wait until they offered again to purchase. Thanks.
The "Sennheiser Game One" is an open headset with velour ear cushions.
Wich headsett is better Sennheiser HD 650, Msr7 or Sennheiser momentum 2
My opinion: Msr7 and Momentums for portability and the HD 650 for home use (and open back). I would say Msr7 over the Momentum because of the price difference. Please anyone feel free to correct me if they think differently.
Isn't there a model of 558's or 598's that were tuned into a gaming headset? I can't find it.
If you haven't found it yet I believe you're talking about the PC37x by Massdrop x Sennheiser
What's your opinion on the ModMic paired with good cans vs something more traditional like this?
Good Headphones are always GOOD.. So the mic is just what you have to add somehow.
basssq3 In my opinion,Good cans and a separate mic is always better.
I would like a review of AKG k712 cause i have a pair and i love it but i don't have as much experience as you so i would like to see that.
I just bought the set I was given to review. So there you go.
Can't wait to see the review! Thank you
Hello can you please give me a tip on how to make a tighter seal on a pair of headphones? I own this particular model, but any general tip would be appreciated! Thanks.
Hard to say. These do a pretty good job already and the pads are decent. Usually a pad change is what you do.
Ironically, this had started to happen since I bought a replacement pair of pads from their site. Thanks anyway.
Are the Beyerdynamics dt 770 good for gaming?