Mike Fiore and Reggie Fountain go head to head in claiming the fastest V-bottom boat in the world.
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The Outer limits boat heard what the Fountain boat was running, tucked tail and headed for the hills.
@genewaller1002 Жыл бұрын
Grew up across the river from Fountain and remember getting woken by open headed big blocks for months before these runs. Miss the old Fountain.
@CoastalOutdoors Жыл бұрын
I grew up a mile from outerlimits
@tanetane2207 Жыл бұрын
Reggie is old-school cool!
@johnnyjohnson68153 жыл бұрын
Damn. We made it into the video. Never knew this. Check out the 50 second point.
@fastboats03273 жыл бұрын
The original "kilo run" was off-shore Florida back to Miami...
@gdb54482 жыл бұрын
There should also be a manufacturer time trial in 8’+ seas to determine the strongest hull design....real traditional offshore racing.
@justinsorci59984 жыл бұрын
Fountain got it covered. I spent 5 hours in a 38 Lighting . From Atlantic city to Maryland in 6 foot seas. was impossible to drink any beer.
@lubricantrc32443 жыл бұрын
THAT USUALLY BOILS DOWN TO WHICH HUMAN CAN HANDLE THE WAVES MORE THAN THE BOAT
@craigbielsky1153 жыл бұрын
APACHE!
@chrisking15793 жыл бұрын
That's what I hate about speed runs. I live on the Atlantic Ocean not no little pond. Quite different daily water.
@sparkyguitar00583 жыл бұрын
@@craigbielsky115 now you know the truth :) 14’ 6 seconds is my limit haha
@keeledover42182 жыл бұрын
Classic power boat racing keep it coming🤙🏼
@tombonin88804 жыл бұрын
I keep wondering if a dimpled-bottom might do the same thing on a boat that it does for golf balls. I've been asking this question for 10 years now and no ones ever posited an answer.
@ronbuckner81799 ай бұрын
I think the resistance between air and water are different. That being said some hulls (such as my Regal Fastrac) that have a step in them seem to work for lift. Maybe several steps back to back on hulls would work?
@ShuswapLivin8 ай бұрын
Fiore - "we will always be the fastest V bottom to this day" 2021.
@5625625625625623 жыл бұрын
Mike Fiore died in 2014 in A high speed boating accident at 46 years old
@TheMsjennieP3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMsjennieP I know that very well, I tried to relay that in my comment. 2021 his legacy stands tall (still the fastest V)
@5625625625625623 жыл бұрын
@@562562562562562 he never had reached a top speed higher than Reggie, he only had a higher average between 2 laps, Reggie’s boat is still the fastest V bottom with a top speed. In rough water conditions, the fountain went over 190 mph. In calm water conditions, the outerlimits went 187. The average between the two laps for the outerlimits was 181 mph, the average for the fountain was 177 mph. In the end Fountain is the world’s fastest V bottom
@bartmanning96102 жыл бұрын
@@562562562562562 and, the outer limits boat had over 1,000 extra hp then the fountain did
@bartmanning96102 жыл бұрын
@@bartmanning9610 Fair enough. A good boat will get you there and home. Thought it was strong call to last so many years with Fiore also passing.
Does nobody remember Craig Fergusons 42 fountain that set the speed record at the Catalina race?
@ap82753 жыл бұрын
Turn on closed captions... then watch from 1:34, hilarious
@EdwardT92 жыл бұрын
What Blowers did they have fitted
@denisiwaszczuk11763 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure this was the year Reggie was caught with illegal ballast tanks to make it appear the boat was heavier than it was.
@starsjosh212010 ай бұрын
Rip Mike Fiore Ironic that Reggie Fountain has done hundreds of races and kilo runs, and Mike passes away before Reggie. Granted Reggie never ran a Catamaran, and Mike was killed in a catamaran speed record attempt running.
@csonkaperdido4 жыл бұрын
csonkaperdido sad day when we lost Mike. I actually worked for both Fountain and Outerlimits. Both great boats but the rigging and finish work with Outerlimits was on a different level. Mike made sure everything was perfect.
@eugeneweeks33254 жыл бұрын
I worked for both Reggie and Paul/Mike Fiore. One thing I will say is that Reggie did in fact run in a Cat and he actual raced with one in the late 90’s however it wasn’t a speed record attempt. Mike was a brilliant mind and V bottoms will never be the same without him. You have Mike Peters at fountain, you have the late Mark Spates that did most Donzi, Extreme, Statement steps bottoms along with several others. With all the old minds dying away I feel it is time for the younger minds to step up.
@eugeneweeks33254 жыл бұрын
Not a bad way to go.RIP Mike
@stuartturner21244 жыл бұрын
csonkaperdido, Mike was killed at the LOTO Shootout, not a speed record attempt. Not the same thing.
@barneyba4 жыл бұрын
@@barneyba LOTO is an event that is designed specifically for record runs - that's why you have so many classes and they WERE attempting to set a new record - what class I'm not sure but that is the entire point of the event. That's why they give out the "Top Gun" award to the fastest boat.
@csonkaperdido4 жыл бұрын
Growing up in Rhode Island and watching these outerlimits boats roll out of the factory in Bristol will always have them as a favorite in my book.
@nickboisclair55663 жыл бұрын
Worked with an great guy named Leon back in 1994 who was the crew chief for the Ohio Steel boat. That was first really fast fountain. Ran in the mid 130’s. Good times for sure. Lots of sleepless nights though.
@eugeneweeks33254 жыл бұрын
There's a 47 with 3x1350s in Sweden that runs in the high 120s/low 130s(I think...the owner won't say what his WOT is). Which brings me to the question of how heavy are the Fountains now that a new company is building them?? Could the new 42s come near to the V bottom speed record with 1650s?
@dieseldog002 жыл бұрын
@@dieseldog00 the 42’s are about 8000 pounds with motors and drives. The problem with the 42 is that there is not enough bottom to break 175-180. The speed record set by the outer limits 42 was about as fast as you will ever get with a 42 foot hull. The will need the 47 with triple 1550’s to hit close to 200.
@eugeneweeks33252 жыл бұрын
@@eugeneweeks3325I believe a 47 weighs around 15000lbs? Cut down the deck, strip it of everything not racing related and put 3x1750s in it. 200 might be achievable. OL got 180 with twin 1650s but APBA might sanction whatever speed the Fountain achieves...but maybe not...Three 1750s is a TON of money. 1350s are $225k each. That would put the 1750s well over $1m.
@dieseldog002 жыл бұрын
@@dieseldog00 money is not an issue when your trying to set a world speed record. The 47 with carbon fiber lamination with 3 motors and drives should weigh about 11,000 pounds. With huge power in all 3 engines you should be in the 190’s or possibly 200.
@eugeneweeks33252 жыл бұрын
After Leon came Reggies best engine builder Troy Dennis. Troy was building engines so powerful, it was ripping up the Mercury out drives.
@genewaller1002 Жыл бұрын
16:03 He chickened out!
@jimmycline47783 жыл бұрын
Mike Fiore died in one of the most horrible crashes you will ever see in a top speed attempt. Boat flipped over at 170mph. And I'm not talking about these slow V-hulls in this video. Ozark shootout Big Cats running 240mph.
@enzonation53633 жыл бұрын
@@enzonation5363 Turbine powered
@erikjohnson62782 жыл бұрын
Today outerlimits is a different story
@carpe_poon5761 Жыл бұрын
Reggie and the team scared the outerlimits
@terryburgett60753 жыл бұрын
sorry to be so off topic but does anybody know a trick to log back into an Instagram account? I was dumb lost the password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me.
@stevencallen11532 жыл бұрын
@Steven Callen Instablaster =)
@samsonchristopher85642 жыл бұрын
Did Reggie ever run 185??? Mike Fiore ran 180.4 and THAT number is STILL the number to beat after all these years.
@dieseldog003 жыл бұрын
You don’t see many fountains anymore. Outerlimits are everywhere
@puttingwarheadsonforeheads98723 жыл бұрын
Boom shocka locka
@davidrolo16993 жыл бұрын
180 185 EASY HE SAID .......STILL WAITING...LOL
@craigbielsky1153 жыл бұрын
I'll take a 2nd gen fountain over an outerlimits any day.
@ap82753 жыл бұрын
Hush yuh MODA SKUNT
@akelwalker77273 жыл бұрын
Go watch the Outerlimits smash this record by 9 mph.
@eugeneweeks33252 жыл бұрын
You can't believe anything that comes out of Reggie Fountain's mouth.
@Scott-tq3yv3 жыл бұрын
No, but numbers don't lie. They had a good run with those V-Hulls
@powerboatguy23083 жыл бұрын
@@powerboatguy2308 www.boattest.com/review/fountain/274_29-fever, www.boattest.com/review/fountain/275_27-fever, Reggie had his numbers on the performance of these two fountains here in these boat test videos, but when boat test ran the boats they were completely different. Reggie admitted he know there was a difference between mph and knots, he had the 29 fever slipping at 5.51%, that's impossible, boat test had it slipping at 15.95% which is right where it should be, he had the 27 fever slipping at 12.27%, that's impossible with that power, and boat test had it slipping at 23.72%, which is right where it should be for that power. Don't believe anything he says.
@Scott-tq3yv3 жыл бұрын
@@Scott-tq3yv Fountain cheats at everything. Even the length of his boats.
@dieseldog003 жыл бұрын
@Jaden Is the Pope Catholic? Does a bear crap in the woods?
@dieseldog002 жыл бұрын
Shame they left out the part that when you sold Reggie Fountain your products on credit you had to beg Mr Fountain to final pay you ! ( For months on end ) Guess that is why he ran his company into the Ground and had to file bankruptcy ! 🤢🤢🤢
@BIGBADWOOD Жыл бұрын
I"ll take a 1st gen Fountain over a outerlimits
@lubricantrc32443 жыл бұрын
This is a 47Fountain with trip 1350s and it STILL won't beat an OL with twins; kzhead.info/sun/ec2He5WgpZyHo58/bejne.html
@dieseldog003 жыл бұрын
You dont see to much Fountains anymore.....Team Qatar put the Limit way up......
@vetdoc353 жыл бұрын
Lot of the big Fountains went to Europe. You see quite a few up North and on the East Coast where they race. 'Strictly Business' is a well-known Fountain raceboat up there in Jersey.
@dieseldog002 жыл бұрын
Reggie got old... and the financial hardships in 2007 hurt....he was a cool guy...and gave outer limits Thier props....still no one can overtake Reggie's legendary career.
The Outer limits boat heard what the Fountain boat was running, tucked tail and headed for the hills.
Grew up across the river from Fountain and remember getting woken by open headed big blocks for months before these runs. Miss the old Fountain.
I grew up a mile from outerlimits
Reggie is old-school cool!
Damn. We made it into the video. Never knew this. Check out the 50 second point.
The original "kilo run" was off-shore Florida back to Miami...
There should also be a manufacturer time trial in 8’+ seas to determine the strongest hull design....real traditional offshore racing.
Fountain got it covered. I spent 5 hours in a 38 Lighting . From Atlantic city to Maryland in 6 foot seas. was impossible to drink any beer.
THAT USUALLY BOILS DOWN TO WHICH HUMAN CAN HANDLE THE WAVES MORE THAN THE BOAT
APACHE!
That's what I hate about speed runs. I live on the Atlantic Ocean not no little pond. Quite different daily water.
@@craigbielsky115 now you know the truth :) 14’ 6 seconds is my limit haha
Classic power boat racing keep it coming🤙🏼
I keep wondering if a dimpled-bottom might do the same thing on a boat that it does for golf balls. I've been asking this question for 10 years now and no ones ever posited an answer.
I think the resistance between air and water are different. That being said some hulls (such as my Regal Fastrac) that have a step in them seem to work for lift. Maybe several steps back to back on hulls would work?
Fiore - "we will always be the fastest V bottom to this day" 2021.
Mike Fiore died in 2014 in A high speed boating accident at 46 years old
@@TheMsjennieP I know that very well, I tried to relay that in my comment. 2021 his legacy stands tall (still the fastest V)
@@562562562562562 he never had reached a top speed higher than Reggie, he only had a higher average between 2 laps, Reggie’s boat is still the fastest V bottom with a top speed. In rough water conditions, the fountain went over 190 mph. In calm water conditions, the outerlimits went 187. The average between the two laps for the outerlimits was 181 mph, the average for the fountain was 177 mph. In the end Fountain is the world’s fastest V bottom
@@562562562562562 and, the outer limits boat had over 1,000 extra hp then the fountain did
@@bartmanning9610 Fair enough. A good boat will get you there and home. Thought it was strong call to last so many years with Fiore also passing.
8:07 - Reggie psychologically asserts dominance. Classic Dale Carnegie 101 right there.
(the handshake)
Sounds totally AWESOME AND FAST
Amazing!!
That Aussie guy has good sportsmanship.
Does nobody remember Craig Fergusons 42 fountain that set the speed record at the Catalina race?
Turn on closed captions... then watch from 1:34, hilarious
What Blowers did they have fitted
Pretty sure this was the year Reggie was caught with illegal ballast tanks to make it appear the boat was heavier than it was.
Rip Mike Fiore Ironic that Reggie Fountain has done hundreds of races and kilo runs, and Mike passes away before Reggie. Granted Reggie never ran a Catamaran, and Mike was killed in a catamaran speed record attempt running.
csonkaperdido sad day when we lost Mike. I actually worked for both Fountain and Outerlimits. Both great boats but the rigging and finish work with Outerlimits was on a different level. Mike made sure everything was perfect.
I worked for both Reggie and Paul/Mike Fiore. One thing I will say is that Reggie did in fact run in a Cat and he actual raced with one in the late 90’s however it wasn’t a speed record attempt. Mike was a brilliant mind and V bottoms will never be the same without him. You have Mike Peters at fountain, you have the late Mark Spates that did most Donzi, Extreme, Statement steps bottoms along with several others. With all the old minds dying away I feel it is time for the younger minds to step up.
Not a bad way to go.RIP Mike
csonkaperdido, Mike was killed at the LOTO Shootout, not a speed record attempt. Not the same thing.
@@barneyba LOTO is an event that is designed specifically for record runs - that's why you have so many classes and they WERE attempting to set a new record - what class I'm not sure but that is the entire point of the event. That's why they give out the "Top Gun" award to the fastest boat.
Growing up in Rhode Island and watching these outerlimits boats roll out of the factory in Bristol will always have them as a favorite in my book.
Worked with an great guy named Leon back in 1994 who was the crew chief for the Ohio Steel boat. That was first really fast fountain. Ran in the mid 130’s. Good times for sure. Lots of sleepless nights though.
There's a 47 with 3x1350s in Sweden that runs in the high 120s/low 130s(I think...the owner won't say what his WOT is). Which brings me to the question of how heavy are the Fountains now that a new company is building them?? Could the new 42s come near to the V bottom speed record with 1650s?
@@dieseldog00 the 42’s are about 8000 pounds with motors and drives. The problem with the 42 is that there is not enough bottom to break 175-180. The speed record set by the outer limits 42 was about as fast as you will ever get with a 42 foot hull. The will need the 47 with triple 1550’s to hit close to 200.
@@eugeneweeks3325I believe a 47 weighs around 15000lbs? Cut down the deck, strip it of everything not racing related and put 3x1750s in it. 200 might be achievable. OL got 180 with twin 1650s but APBA might sanction whatever speed the Fountain achieves...but maybe not...Three 1750s is a TON of money. 1350s are $225k each. That would put the 1750s well over $1m.
@@dieseldog00 money is not an issue when your trying to set a world speed record. The 47 with carbon fiber lamination with 3 motors and drives should weigh about 11,000 pounds. With huge power in all 3 engines you should be in the 190’s or possibly 200.
After Leon came Reggies best engine builder Troy Dennis. Troy was building engines so powerful, it was ripping up the Mercury out drives.
16:03 He chickened out!
Mike Fiore died in one of the most horrible crashes you will ever see in a top speed attempt. Boat flipped over at 170mph. And I'm not talking about these slow V-hulls in this video. Ozark shootout Big Cats running 240mph.
@@enzonation5363 Turbine powered
Today outerlimits is a different story
Reggie and the team scared the outerlimits
sorry to be so off topic but does anybody know a trick to log back into an Instagram account? I was dumb lost the password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me.
@Steven Callen Instablaster =)
Did Reggie ever run 185??? Mike Fiore ran 180.4 and THAT number is STILL the number to beat after all these years.
You don’t see many fountains anymore. Outerlimits are everywhere
Boom shocka locka
180 185 EASY HE SAID .......STILL WAITING...LOL
I'll take a 2nd gen fountain over an outerlimits any day.
Hush yuh MODA SKUNT
Go watch the Outerlimits smash this record by 9 mph.
You can't believe anything that comes out of Reggie Fountain's mouth.
No, but numbers don't lie. They had a good run with those V-Hulls
@@powerboatguy2308 www.boattest.com/review/fountain/274_29-fever, www.boattest.com/review/fountain/275_27-fever, Reggie had his numbers on the performance of these two fountains here in these boat test videos, but when boat test ran the boats they were completely different. Reggie admitted he know there was a difference between mph and knots, he had the 29 fever slipping at 5.51%, that's impossible, boat test had it slipping at 15.95% which is right where it should be, he had the 27 fever slipping at 12.27%, that's impossible with that power, and boat test had it slipping at 23.72%, which is right where it should be for that power. Don't believe anything he says.
@@Scott-tq3yv Fountain cheats at everything. Even the length of his boats.
@Jaden Is the Pope Catholic? Does a bear crap in the woods?
Shame they left out the part that when you sold Reggie Fountain your products on credit you had to beg Mr Fountain to final pay you ! ( For months on end ) Guess that is why he ran his company into the Ground and had to file bankruptcy ! 🤢🤢🤢
I"ll take a 1st gen Fountain over a outerlimits
This is a 47Fountain with trip 1350s and it STILL won't beat an OL with twins; kzhead.info/sun/ec2He5WgpZyHo58/bejne.html
You dont see to much Fountains anymore.....Team Qatar put the Limit way up......
Lot of the big Fountains went to Europe. You see quite a few up North and on the East Coast where they race. 'Strictly Business' is a well-known Fountain raceboat up there in Jersey.
Reggie got old... and the financial hardships in 2007 hurt....he was a cool guy...and gave outer limits Thier props....still no one can overtake Reggie's legendary career.