Odysseus... the horse is here....
FINALLY, I HAVE FINISHED IT! Sorry to everyone who thought that I was dying, or at least I acted like I was when I was working on this. And I will give BIG thanks to my friend who was willing to pretend to drown in my bed so I could have some references.
I usually have a lot of references/easter eggs in my animatics. Usually, I have Disney, like Aladdin or Cinderella.
But this one, I used the short film "Augenblicken." That film is one of my pillars of why I became so interested in 2D animation! It's really good, but I must give a trigger warning that it's about SA. I actually had a plan that I would make an animatic similar/based on that short film, but it's about Hera and Zeus, and I scrapped it. But I couldn't help myself to be inspired by that film!
Thank you for watching!
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Poseidon: "It isn't very often that I get pissed off." Everyone familiar with his mythology: "Why the fuck you lying?"
Hypocrite lol
BROseidon and Zeus's thundercock are responsible for like 80% of Greek drama
@@Camp_Half_Blood_Is_Here On brand for the Olympians
Not really Poseidon rarely takes his anger out on mortals unless they really piss him off. That is mostly Zeus or Appolo and his sister. Shit even Athena is more prissy than him usually. The only times i can think of for poseidon to be temperamental enough to pull shit like this is they here and with Atlantis.
@@damianjarzebski5168 He tried to drown Athens after they chose Athena over him, picked a fight with Ares in reaction to Halirrhothius' death, punished Argos for choosing Hera over him, sent a sea monster to attack Troy after Laomedon broke an agreement, and was seen by the Greeks as both their protector from and the cause of earthquakes
I do really like Poseidon is saying in this song. That Odysseus's "mercy" was crueler than just simply killing the cyclops and Odysseus's Naivety basically killed all his men.
Yeah, disproportionate retribution is kind of something all the Olympians are known for. Brutal as it is, killing all but a handful of Odysseus's men is pretty on-brand for someone like Poseidon. If it weren't for his desire to see Odysseus suffer that kind of loss, he probably would've just killed everyone and not given him the chance to open the bag.
Like he really think lying to a God face 2 face was gonna work
yes
@@neospiderman2165 One of the most powerful Olympian as well
@@neospiderman2165 I didn't take it as lying so much as a lack of introspection; This is Poseidon playing Trumen to Odysseus' Oppenheimer: Odysseus: "I have blood on my hands!" Poseidon: "Blood on his hands, dammit, he hasn't half as much blood on his hands as I have. You just don't go around bellyaching about it."
Odysseus’ fatal flaw is definitely hubris. And you can totally see it in his ‘apology’. Not only did he look a little smug, he never even apologized. Who cares if you don’t think you actually have to, that’s the God of the fucking Sea, say sorry.
Especially when that god literally just said he’d kill you if you didn’t say sorry. He was so proud of that 600 men led to war and back, and he could’ve kept it that way if he’d just apologized.
@@ZenitsusDad funnily enough, Poseidon would never have done that even if he did apologise. He is literally preaching ruthlessness, why would he be merciful
@@deejaydee1578 that’s true. I think there still would’ve been some kind of punishment but I don’t know that 557 of his men would’ve paid the price
@@ZenitsusDad I would argue that nothing would've changed. The line is quite clear (in my interpertation) "The line between naivete and hopefulness is almost invisible" means "Looks like you've learned nothing boy" to me.
@@narutim097 Nothing would have changed is exactly right. Poseidon still would have killed all of his men. Poseidon gives Odysseus the chance to apologize as a trick. After singing a whole song about how ruthlessness is required, why would he want an apology or grant mercy. He is looking for Odysseus to essentially say he isn't sorry and he would do it again if he had to. Poseidon says, "The line between naivete and hopefulness is almost invisible" because hoping Poseidon would spare Odysseus or his crew was stupid in the God's viewpoint.
It's so creepy when the lyrics say "die" and that terrifying smiling horse just looms over the ships
Remember creepypastas? Imagine one called "Posieden"
Berserk Horse lookin' ahh
That's one of my favorite parts. It's so scary
When we look into our deepest roots, we often find dark gods staring back. Poseidon is no different, for the god of the seas was once known as the King Earthshaker.
@@DontObliteratetheCommenter why do I need this tho? Like creepy pasta for Greek gods and mythology. Sounds sick dude
I love how Odysseus goes from mental breakdown to "Jokes on you I have a bag"
fair. but it's funny
You just know in this context Poseidon is probably thinking "ok who gave this guy the magic escape bag?"
@@Shadowblader98 More like going "DAMN IT HERMES!!!"
@@IceQueen975 Hermes: nope this one wasn't me, at least not this time
And he says it in such a jolly way too lol
Something I love about Poseidons attitude about what Odysseus did to his son was that he doesn’t actually care that much about his son, things die all the time, it’s part of a natural order. However, Odesseus MAIMED his son and his “mercy” left him disfigured, which he is taking more of in insult towards than actually caring about the state of his son
Agreed.
Honestly I get that, while I’d be pissed at both happening to someone, forcing someone to live with the injuries you gave them is crueler than just straight killing them.
@@Draftsman_MC1300At least the person is still alive.
Considering Odysseus flat out insulted Poseidon by using a horse statue as a false offering, blinded his son and called it 'mercy' despite it being entirely a way to spit upon his foe, and worse of all Odysseus had the sheer gall to get another God's help to negate Poseidon's minimum effort punishment (the storm that the Wind God removed)... Poseidon's beyond pissed.
Actually, it's not that. Poseidon deeply cares about his children. The reason he said you would've escaped if you'd just killed him was because polyphemus complains to Poseidon about Odysseus, causing him to take vengeance. Whereas if Odysseus had just killed him and not you know proudly given out his identity, none of this would've happened
Man Poseidon spitting back his “I am your darkest moment” after killing most of his men is wild
"All i gotta do is open this bag :D"
I noticed that it echoed Odysseus’s line saying that exact thing to the cyclops.
@@animacaodeumamador1006 WHAT?!
@@Camp_Half_Blood_Is_Here remember me….
@@Camp_Half_Blood_Is_Here There is another animatic (I dont remember the name now) where it shows how Odysseus and his crew escaped from the Cyclops
The visual of the baby that Poseidon drops hitting the deck timed with the "You are far too nice" lyric hits so hard. It's clear that Odysseus thinks killing that baby is the worst thing he has ever done, so for Poseidon to call him "nice" and merciful right then is exqusite torture.
You could see how watching that baby hit the deck hurt Odysseus. I love how everything Poseidon did, everything he said, every form he took, was some kind of barb to get under Odysseus’ skin, too!
given what the gods are up to any given weekend, its not hard to see why hed say that
@@ZenitsusDad OMG, right? Especially appearing as a horse. Poseidon took the image Odysseus's greatest achievement (the Trojan Horse) and used it for 4 minutes solid to torture him and then uno reverse it to kill over 500 of the same men who were inside of it to sack/destroy Troy. It was a magnificent choice by the artist and I am in awe of the creativity
@AnonEMouse-ls7fp Poseidon basically says, "oh, you like horses? I INVENTED THEM."
@@AnonEMouse-ls7fpIsn’t the horse also fairly associated with Poseidon as a call sign? Odysseus using a Trojan horse on Troy, which Poseidon was betting on that city winning, must’ve felt like a big slap to the face in his name. Add in his son getting blinded (Poseidons generally depicted as a caring father a lot), and all bets were off.
I’m sorry, I can’t get over the fact that we probably have the most intense scene from this musical with Poseidon killing hundreds of men and the writers go “oh right, we need something funny here” Odysseus: “all I gotta do is open this bag” in such a lighthearted tone like he didn’t just almost drown I freaking died
I honestly always read that line as desperation on Odysseus part, he’s grasping for anything and gets reminded of the fairly lighthearted song about the bag (until it wasn’t but still), so he both escapes and taunts Poseidon by doing that
@@NoRegs30 Same! He's just lost hundreds of the men he led for 20 years, who trusted him to lead them, and there's nothing he can do fight back a vengeful god. But as Poseidon said there are 43 left, so how to save those remaining 43 who only live because they're on Odysseus' own ship and Poseidon saved him for last...? By saying/doing something so unexpected Poseidon doesn't have the time to react before they're out. The way he delivers the line is jarring but that, I feel, is because it's intended to be. It needs to make a GOD go "??????" for a long enough moment that the remaining wind can drag them out of immediate reach.
Eh, the Watsonian rationalizations here fall pretty flat I feel. It was still a glaring chunk of bathos, especially in light of the unspeakable tragedy that had just happened. I mean sure, give him a wry smile, a maniacal laugh even, but not this giddy cheeriness like we just switched scripts with a Trolls movie.
@@michaeldeighton323 Lmao, using all those technical words to make a non-argument and then insult the quality. Bathos is used as an intentional anti-climax, a way of immediate subversion to segue into the next part where no clean transition exists. For Odysseus of all characters, it works the best. He's still a soldier. Everyone is dead. His ship is the only one that remains. But HE is still alive and he still has some men. He is an optimistic bastard by design. He remembers what he has, sees Poseidon's hubris as a weakness, then uses the tone shift to confuse the God enough to escape. With Poseidon DECIDING to let him go, with the sinister threat (Which is contained in the musical stings of the piano) that this escape is temporary and that Poseidon won't forget. Tone is carried by the instrumentation as much as the lyrics and their delivery. In comparison to the total piece, there's a more clear transition away from brief triumph to grief. It's only glaring because this is one song out of a series, so there's no continuation. You're condemning a part without the context of the whole. Would it work in a normal play? Probably not, but Musicals don't function the same as plays. They have different rules and standards. So take some time to learn those rules and standards before passing harsh judgement. These words are probably wasted and it will just get countered by semantics, grammatical mistakes, or just calling me a "Fan boy" or whatever like I've seen all around the criticisms that have been confronted. But I figured I'd throw them out there anyways for those who wish to either have a dialogue or see a perspective that goes into detail as to why these things work.
@@CoolColton947 dang, bro. That's gonna register as a solid "yikes" from me. If you don't want to be labeled a fanboy, maybe don't post a comment dripping with obvious resentment that someone dared criticise something you liked. Yes, I am indeed aware of the meaning of the words I used. Very understandable that you would assume I was just ignorantly using them to try and sound smart, I do get that a lot, but that would I hope be a largely incorrect assumption in this case. To be clear, I just listened to the version sans animatic again (this song is really worming into my brain). It really clarified that my issue with that line is primarily due to how Odysseus was animated. The gigantic face-splitting grin, mainly. Hopefully that was sufficient to communicate that I'm not just shitting on stuff for kicks. If not... eh, I've probably spent too much time on this thread already.
3:38 God, the symbolism of "I am your darkest moment, the monster that always draws near" being said by Poseidon as a HORSE, considering that Odysseus's regrets in Troy is what led to his actions envoking Poseidons wrath made my jaw drop. Triple S+ teir!
OH MY GOD YOURE RIGHT?
I didn't pick that up until I read this, now I love this even more, thank you!
N he used the Trojan horse Stat to win 2
It’s also almost the same thing Odysseus said to Polyphem when they departed after stabbing him in the eye "I’m your darkest moment […] the infamous Odysseus“
Like someone already said in the reply, I think it was also to remind Odysseus of his last words to Polythem. Making it clear that he was very aware that the "We took no pleasure in his pain" was a flat out lie on top of no apology for leaving his son, a cyclops, BLIND and calls that "mercy"
4:16 Being the god of the seas, there's no reason that Posiden couldn't have stopped the ship's escape. "Remember me," is the same thing Odysseus told Polyphemus While the original intent was to kill Odysseus, he decided to instead to let him live with the mistake that caused hundreds of deaths. He ultimately gave the same sentence, loss of the flock and personal pain
Holy crapp good jon
I feel like it's practically confirmed by the lines "I've been waiting for this moment." "When your home's so close, that's when our paths collide." from Get in the Water, that Poseidon lets him go here because he knows where Odysseus is going, just to inflict greater damage later on.
To be fair, Poseidon is god of the sea, but the anemoi *are* the winds- Can't get much stronger than an element itself, especially with three of the four working in tandem.
@@CalamitasBrimstoneWitch yeah, but all it would've taken was a Rouge wave
@@Latedozer True but he's clearly surprised. He didn't expect Odysseus to have the actual wind in a bag. Like we can claim he's a god and should have been able to do X, Y, Z but the whole point of Greek mythology is that the gods are frequently extremely mortal and flawed beings who are only deified because they're powerful, not because they're the pinnacle of sentience
The way Odysseus’ men desperatly shout « Captain » while drowning, like they think he can help them is so heartbreaking. The way they loved him is just ❤❤❤
Did the same thing when fighting the cyclops. "Captain" wad the last thing they ever said
They put complete trust in his command, since they went to war and none of the 600 men died there.
"Ruthlessness is mercy upon- CAPTAIN" goes hard
@@umseraleatorio2428 ikr
The moment where Posideon casually toyed with their battleships like it was nothing really emphasizes that this is a GOD they're facing. Like any natural disaster, you don't try to beat them, you survive them.
"You don't try to beat them, you survive them" is the PERFECT description you can give a god
What’s worse is it’s not even just a god they encountered in the wild. This is THE GOD OF THE SEAS, pissed off at you and confronting you IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN. I really can’t think of many worse situations to be in as an Ancient Greek. Other than pissing of Hades in the underworld, or Zeus on freaking Olympus.
@@ethanbergeron2688pissing off the sea god when his only means of travel is over sea is by far the dumbest thing that he could have possibly done, literally the act of saying his name out loud sealed him to this fate and it just shows how one single stupid act born from hubris can destroy ones whole world
@@Shadowblader98 In his defence, I'm pretty sure Odysseus didn't know Polyphemus was the son of Poseidon, and hence, that this deed would piss off the god of the sea. Of course that doesn't change the fact that "the wisest of the Greeks" was still acting incredibly foolish and prideful in loudly declaring his name and taunting an aggravated foe after "sparing" him...
@@predwin1998 In the musical yes, Odysseus has no idea that Polyphemus in Poseidons son, but in the book Polyphemus outright states that he's the son of Poseidon and Odysseus still taunts him so that was just pretty dumb.
Odysseus: trying to silver tongue his way out of trouble. Poseidon: "Oh, I ain't having any of that."
I wonder, at least in terms of the musical, do you think a frank and honest "I'm sorry for hurting your son" from Odysseus would have worked?
@@rommielee5888 IMO Poseidon would’ve still tried to kill him & his crew.
@@curestarlight3023 Indeed, may as well not give him the satisfaction xD
Poseidon: talk no jutsu doesn't work here
If the musical is authentic to the source? Maybe. The Greek Pantheon was kind of fickle that way. Poseidon has a record of acting infrequently, but spectacularly. Like the sea it's self. And Odysseus has stepped on his toes more than once already. So this was a decent breaking point. @@rommielee5888
I LOVE that you made Poseidon use a horse form, both because its one of the animals he is associated with, but also because it's another layer of mocking Odysseus with the depiction that will remind him of his Trojan Horse
I just realized something. Related question: Have you bothered to watch Frozen 2.
@@DontObliteratetheCommenter no 👍
@@pixlv6384 good never watch it
@pixlv6384 look up dark sea scene frozen 2. The ost is great and you'll know why I brought it up. Unless you already watched the trailer and know that ]xxxx[
@@DontObliteratetheCommenter why?
“You are the worst kinda of good cause you’re not even great” just hits different
It’s the 11th commandment that thou shalt head bang at “NOT E-VEN GREAT”
so true
I do enjoy that Poseidon's whole point throughout the song is literally 'Buddy, if you'd actually finished my son off, I wouldn't have known who to punish'. He doesn't actually care for his child, or at least it seems that way. It seems that he's doing what he's doing because he knows someone that hurt something of his, and he's a greek god. If someone wrongs you, there is only one course of action.
Oh he cares. Poseidon is fairly consistently depicted as generally caring quite a lot for his kids. The fact that this is a mortal man who has handed an insult to a God.... yea, that just kinda compounds the issue.
@@selonianthDefinitely. And the point about killing the Cyclops is also about this supposed "mercy" that he very clearly doesn't believe from Odysseus: since when is torturing and permanently disabling your opponent more merciful than a quick death?
It's also an excuse: he already hated Athens and Athena and now here is her precious little general no longer under her protection and with his child's blood on his hands. He doesn't even have to hold back. It's perfect.
@@Bloodanna What does Athens have to do with it? Odysseus isn't from there
@@RavenSutcliffeAthens is involved by proxy of Athena being involved. Poseidon is still ticked Athens picked Athena over him as their patron deity.
I love the inclusion of the baby cause it shows how hypocritical Odysseus is being. Hes willing to kill a baby, to protect his family but not simply kill the cyclops who was trying to kill him. Amazing work
I noticed that too, it’s probably why he looked cold when dropping it. Like “Your willing to kill a defenseless babe, but MY son who was trying harm…you spared? Please. -_-“
I think that's part of it, though. He killed the baby and it kind of broke his resolve. I think the guilt is what's causing this change
well let's be fair he probably let the cyclops live as revenge he wanted him suffer for picking the fight he's just not gonna admit that when apologizing cause let's be real that's asking for it and the gods aren't that good at sussing out liars
@@marley7868 lol very true
I also like the point of the song “Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourself” being ruthless makes things easier for you. Leaving enemies alive allows more enemies to appear. Poseidon wouldn’t have known if his son Was killed
_Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves_ is maybe the absolute *hardest* bar in lyrical history.
That's what I've been thinking it's so great
This is beautiful. The part that captures me is the smirk on Odyssey's face when he "apologizes" to Poseidon, stating that he was only trying to survive and he "took no pleasure in his pain". Polyphemus likely already told Poseidon of Odysseus's gloating. Poseidon's face clearly depicts his disbelief. This mortal man, with his and his crew's lives on the line isn't taking the situation seriously. He's not showing fear in his apology, and appears to think that he worded it so nicely, so clearly he's safe from harm? Except he wasn't and he lost that smirk real quick. Amazing animation.
Until the end. He sounded so chipper as he made his escape. Kind of disgusting
I in his shoes would be very carefull, he sails in Poseidons Domaine, he could be killed very fast and he is stupid enough, after he lost alredy the Support of one goddess to anger one of the most powerful. I thought Odysseus was smart but well he showed that he didn't think of the consequences.
First of all, I like this Poseidon in his roughness. That the way he drags and shoves Odysseus shows that he is nothing more than a man who can do nothing before the power of god. Secondly, I like how Poseidon mocks Odysseus’s emotional trauma, remembering the baby. Obviously, he was referring to Troy here. Thirdly, am I not the only one who thought Odysseus was smug at the moment of apology?This is what Poseidon is talking about and it is clear that he has not forgiven him
I think it was the part when Odysseus state that he took no pleasure in Polythemus' pain. Which was a flat out lie since Odysseus literally shouted out his name to the Cyclops so he can always remember that it was he that blinded him. Also Odysseus never truly apologize about blinding Cyclops. Notice he never outright says he sorry, but rather framing it as a form of self-defense ('I only meant to disarm, I only want to run away'). Which yeah, was true, but not something a father would want to hear.
@@fbiuzzYES I AM ABOUT THIS. YOU EXPRESSED MY THOUGHTS BETTER THAN ME
As a fellow smug guy myself, Poseidon is right, we kinda deserve the worst the moment we apologize.
@@fbiuzz I don't even think this was why he did it. The entire song Poseidon is giving Odysseus a lesson on being ruthless because he is wanting to be good and merciful to everyone he meets. The entire song is Poseidon saying show no mercy to anyone. Then after all that he says to apologize? No. "The line between naivety and hopefulness is almost invisible" Naivety is referring to a lack of wisdom or judgement that Odysseus thinks Poseidon will actually let him go. In Greek mythology Poseidon is the most petty among the gods. After that entire song, and with that background, why would Poseidon all of a sudden show mercy to the man that blinded his son, didn't kill him, and openly told him his name? Poseidon was never going to spare Odysseus or the fleet regardless of whether he apologized or not. It's only thanks to the bag of wind that Odysseus got his last ship away before they died as well.
nah you weren't, I was questioning why this man was smiling as he was trying to appease Poseidon
I think modern retellings of Greek myth forget how freaking scary Poseidon is…like he IS the ocean so tsunamis, whirlpools, etc, are him. Poseidon is terrifying
before Hades entered Greek mythology, Poseidon was in charge of the underworld too. The ocean is a depthless grave filled with creatures human eyes were never meant to see that will forget the names of all its victims.
@@deliabailey7422fun fact: he was also king of the gods back then. Mycanean Greece put more stock in cthonic gods than Hellenistic Greece did. Any gods associated with the underworld at all were given higher importance than those without underworld connections. Poseidon, being the underworld's king, was thus given top spot, while Zeus' domain of the sky, basically as far away from the underworld as you could get, left him with little authority in the pantheon. Things got shuffled around during the Grecian Dark Ages, and when we got to the other side, Zeus was now at top billing with the epithet Panhelle'nius, basically labelling him as king of everything, and Poseidon was split between his domain of the seas, and Hades as the new underworld king. However, Poseidon's reign of king of the dead wasn't fully forgotten, honored in his title of The Earthshaker.
Can't forget earthquakes.
One thing I wished Percy Jackson did was show Poseidons meaner side.
@@cmae03 eh, it makes sense why they didn't. He IS Percy's dad after all.
The literal god of the sea: "Any lasts words before I end you?" Odysseus: *BAG*
Everything about this is great, but the way horse Poseidon looks (horseidon?) just makes it even BETTER. Mostly because we all how how notorious horses are for being difficult to properly proportion, and every horse frame here is amazing
You have no idea how many horse videos I have watched to make sue that the proportion would look right 😰 And the worst thing is.... I want to draw more Horseidon!
@@anniflamma1496I absolutely Loved the horse parts, I also loved the terryfing glowing teeth version, the eyes reminded me a lot of Alternates from Mandela Catalog in a eery predatory way
Congratulations on making the scariest Poseidon design I've ever seen, particularly in his horse form with the glowing teeth- that's just goddamn unsettling
Very much so!
IKR LIKE DAMNNNNN
i actually feel like his human form is scarier
This HAD to be a berserk reference
He does often have a bit of an _Aquaman_ vibe in modern depictions, doesn't he. This one was *much* better at capturing just what a *terrifying* concept the sea really is! The tempestuousness and unpredictability of storms, the inky blackness of the depths and just how fucking *ill* equipped we are to survive in it as an environment!
I love how Poseidon is like “Apologize”. But Odysseus is like “Nah. I’m going to explain why I did it but not apologize. Because, no 😂”
Odysseus was even smiling at the end, so sure he’d been clever enough to sway Poseidon to agreeing with him. Big mistake.
thing is he didn't apologize, at least not for the crime Poseidon is accusing him of, Poseidon already knows why he blinded him what he's asking for is for him to apologize for sparing his son and forcing him to act, but Odysseus apologizes for blinding the cyclops (though even this was more of claiming self defense rather than responsibility) and even says he would have done less if he could which means he missed the whole point of everything Poseidon just said
he was serving apology youtube video before it was cool
@@cesar6447 “I’m sorry for how my actions may have made you feel, since you clearly don’t understand why what I did was fully justified, but it’s time for us both to move on and leave this negativity in the past.”
Except he’s also lying about the scenario, spinning the situation to make him the good guy
One thing that I like about the artistic depiction here is that when Poseidon asks for an apology, Odysseus seems to try and placate him diplomatically. He is good with his words, he's a tricked the cyclops this way. He seems so confident in his supplication to Poseidon, and that is where Poseidon seems to take offense. It specifically after Odysseus tries to sway a god that the god strikes his crew down for the audacity of it. I love that detail.
The line "when does a ripple become a tidal wave, when does a man become a monster?" gives me goosebumps every single time. It goes from another metaphor about consequence among a dozen others to a bone chilling callback.
No joke, the entire sequence of Odysseus's crew just screaming "Captain!" over and over while drowning gave me chills. It really highlighted how helpless Odysseus actually is in front of Poseidon, to the point where he wasn't able to even help his own crew and was only able to stay alive because Poseidon wanted him to. Not because of his wit, or his smarts, or anything else Odysseus was known for. Only because Poseidon wanted to gloat. Look at how powerless you are. Look at how your decisions have caused your crew's downfall. Look.
I was thinking the same thing hearing the chorus of “Captain” is so eerie, especially when it is sharply cut off.
Oh my god, I totally didn't pick up on the undertone of 'captain' through that part, that's absolutely chilling!
Right???, it breaks my heart every time because it also proves Eurlycaus right that his pride and arrogance would get everyone killed. the parts by the ensemble are so good
Not only that but Odysseus blinded the Cyclops and then left him ALIVE in a show of supposed mercy. Poseidon was also showing Odysseus what kind of pain that type of mercy can cause. Or at least that is what I took from it.
@@TsukiNoShinjitsuOh shit I never thought of it that way!! That’s an excellent point!
I love Odysseus expressions in his “apology”. He is not just smug, he looks to the side just for a second to figure out how to spin the tale & starts playing the part of being contrite without having to actually say sorry & when he’s done he smiles like he just singlehandedly defeated the ocean. Poseidon just dragged him around like a rag doll & played with the ship just as easy but now that he thinks he can win just by talking he immediately looks confident & relaxed, & just like with the Cyclops it doesn’t work, because Eurylochus is right, he is getting them killed by trying to play smart with Gods
I acutally think he was kinda smug in his response. Like if you look at the way he said it... the dude never truly apologized. It's more of a: "Well... I didn't mean it, but he kinda had it coming. It was just self-defense". I think it's pretty interesting if you take into consideration the songs preceding it like "Warrior of the Mind" and "My Goodbye"... dude basically told Athena, a very powerful god and rival to Poseidon to "fuck off".
@@khoivo7947 you are totally right, he is so prideful that he thinks he can keep going against gods because he is so smart. He refuses to accept his limits & straight up smiles at Poseidon when offering his non apology because he is so sure he can talk his way out of everything
He literally just needed to apologize but he didn't like the arrogant man he was and then asked what Poseidan had done when he was responsible for them because of his own actions, too 'merciful' to put Polyphemus down but too arrogant to just apologize for leaving him blind on that island with other Cyclops who may take advantage
@@liamjacques5335agreed. Poseidon gave him an out and Odysseus practically throw it in his face. I also like how he, after giving Odysseus a look of disgust, looking regretfully towards the sky before he transforms. He knows his dooming most of the crew to aimlessly wonder the underworld due to not having proper burials, but Odysseus must be taught a lesson and they’re unfortunately part of that lesson.
@@thomashuizinga4618 I was about to say exactly this. The look of absolute disgust on Poseidon's face. Until this point, Poseidon had been pretty reasonable. He was angry and he wanted to kill Odysseus, but instead he just basically lectured him and asked for an apology. It's not even rage, it's just "you absolute idiot".
The disrespect of Poseidon just dragging him across the deck by the hair is insane, considering he could have thrown him across the deck literally ANY OTHER WAY.
Think what I like about this one is how *inhuman* Poseidon is. His face as a human is skull-like, a pale brow and hollow cheeks around monochromatic eyes and a beard that frames his lips apart from his jaws, like teeth. And when he shifts into a horse, he moves fluidly, standing like a statue that shatters the laws of motion when he shifts. Poseidon isn't an especially powerful humanoid here. Poseidon is an aspect of reality and fantasy, reminders of death and fear. Trying to dance around him with words means he teaches you that his vows, like water too, can be unyielding.
i am loving the 'posiden being god of horses' representation that we haven't seen since the percy jackson books.
Actually, they did it in God of War too- and in an incredibly creepy fashion.
Depending how far you go back demeter also turns into a horse to outrun poseidon. She isn't fast enough, poseidon catches her after turning into a horse himself and the result is persephone.
@@kariissmol9172 I never knew there was a version where Poseidon was the father of Persephone it's usually always Zeus.
Tfw you're main domain is the sea but in your heart of hearts you're a horse girl
Even they didn't really do the whole of Poseidon justice, they focused on the Stormbringer aspect a lot, Earthshaker was addressed once in BoTL, Father of Horses is pretty focused on but they only give Father of Monsters the bare minimum focus. Once with Tyson in SoM and Antaeus in BoTL.
I love how Poseidon just drops the baby made of water onto the deck of the ship. Showing that he doesnt actually care about his son, only that Odysseus hurting his son was also indirectly a slight against him. While simultaneously taunting Odysseus with his regret of having to kill Hectors child.
it also references what Odysseus does to Hector’s infant son at the end of the war.
@@tiringsarcasm read the final sentence of my comment again lol
@@TheMightySceptile I have made a severe lapse in my judgement
no posieden does care he tries to be laid back but polythemus had alot of context if they had just killed the cyclops poesdien wouldn't have been told he also wouldn't have been that angry because let us be real blinding a guy when you could kill him then laughing as you escape and giving your name is worse than just a burning spear to the throat
@@marley7868 The point is that by only blinding Polythemus he was able to cry out to his father, meaning Poseidon had to take revenge against Odysseus so the world didn't think he was spineless. If Odysseus just killed him than he'd never be able to call out to Poseidon and Poseidon would likely have never found out, and thus wouldn't have done anything.
I love Poseidon’s monstrous forms depicted here. It fluidly combines him being an ocean god and a horse god and it’s just so fucking epic. I especially liked right after “Die.” when he’s killing all of Odysseus’ crew. It feels like he’s not just an ocean god, he _is_ the ocean, and he could have killed them all with a thought the moment they set sail.
I mean... Most Greek Gods are heavily anthropomorphic beings. Especially the Titans. So the idea that after receiving the title of God of the Seas Poseidon *became* the ocean is not that far-fetched.
Oh my god i actually audibly gasped at 1:25. I can't even put into words how amazingly you animated poseidon. You integrated his domain over horses in such a cool and menacing way. You captured the absolute raw power that he has perfectly and in such a visually interesting way. This is going in my favorites playlist LOL.
I just noticed his clothes blending into the surface of the ocean AUGH thats so COOL!!! AAAAAAAH!
Holy fuck this is incredible. I love how free form posideon is with his form, quickly shifting from man to horse to weird eldritch horse. And this is some of the best use of posideon being the God of horses I've ever seen or even thought of. Overall, it's a phenomenal job, and I can't wait for more in the future. Edit: just to gush a bit more about this incredible piece of art, the whole transition from huge posideon into the smaller but still big posideon that drops the baby is just *chefs kiss* capital P Phenomenal. As well as the entire sequence of posideon just fucking up Odysseus by the hair, and the whole seen of him murdering the crew make me want an animated Epic:the musical film so bad.
Yeah, it flows well that the gods take on forms that humans can perceive yet they are still fluid enough to shift forms at the drop of a hat, this is especially so with Poseidon here since it also uses water elements along with the shifting between human and horse forms. Overall this is a very fitting visual to show Poseidon’s wrath towards Odysseus for blinding Polyphemus and leaving him alive.
😮❤~ o live how he appears as a BLACK ~🖤 horse since sailors know great waves as WHITE HORSES ~ 🍚 🍥 🌨
@amandabartels458 this is fantastic information, thank you
Oops~ sorry 🙏 MEANT: I love how the sea God turns into a 🖤 horse because sailors use to know wavez as the: WHITE HORSES ~ didn't mean to shout\🚀 In the texting. Constantly having to SWITCHBACK ~ & forth is
Can’t agree more
I absolutely love that when Poseidon is throwing Odysseus around you get the feeling of being sucked into a whirlpool.
Ooooh, true! I couldn't wrap my head around this sequence 😅
I am obsessed with the animation of that scene
Getting caught underneath a wave when I was little, it feels exactly like how they animated it, being spun around and not able to escape until It let's you go
This!!! It’s one of my favorite parts of animation here. It perfectly encapsulates the helpless feeling of drowning!!!
I love the line "the pack of wolves is swimming with the Shark now" for the use of the singular, there is ONE shark, THE shark, doesn't matter how many wolves there are, the Shark can't be beaten. Only escaped.
Probably have watched this 20 times now. The opening sequence with the giant horse coming out of the waves is the best depiction/introduction of Poseidon I’ve ever seen. Perfectly conveys the feeling of “we’ve gathered the attention of something that we really shouldn’t have, and now we are fucked”
Probably about the same number for me by now :) really, the way this Poseidon just *is,* absolutely brilliant. It's the kind of absoluty impossible to defy presence gods should bring to the table. I *wish* more actual movies or stories managed to capture it. The casualness of the changes, the swiftness of motion and uncaring cruelty show in the mockery. S-class
I forgot that Poseidon is also the god of horses 🐎
They say horses are made out of sea foam ❤❤❤
They called Hippocamps, but yeah, sea horses
And earthquakes. But yes that’s what the Trojan Horse was suppose to be in the view of the Trojans. A offering to Poseidon for safe travel back to Greece by the “retreating” Greek forces.
@@saland6027No, all horses.
Wait really?!
3:52 I don’t know why, but the sudden tone change cracks me up every time. Everything is mournful and terrifying until… “✨ALL I GOTTA DO IS OPEN THIS BAG! ✨😄” “WAT?! 😟”
SAME 😭😭 It ruins the whole moodddd
Head cannon that he gets it from Hermes lol
@@alijahsamone man i always forget Hermes is Odysseus' great grandpa lmao
I came to this video specifically to look for these comments
@@TIME-fe6ne For me it doesn't 😭 if I'm about to get killed by a sea god and I suddenly remembered I have a bag of air that could save me I WOULD BE HELLA HAPPY
Okay, but why is no one talking about how you draw Poseidon as this fluid, formless *thing* eerily crawling along the edge of the ship before diving back into the water as he says "the pack of wolves is swimming with the shark now"? Or how you draw the massive waves and Poseidon's eerie smile in the waters as he drowns almost all of Odysseus' crew? Or how Poseidon's arm fluidly transitions between water and flesh when he first seizes Odysseus? OR THE TRANSITION OF THE HORSE DIVING INTO THE WATER TO GIANT POSEIDON SLAMMING HIS FOOT DOWN ON THE SHIP????? So many good moments, holy geez!!
I CANNOT PROPERLY ARTICULATE HOW MUCH I LOVE THIS DESIGN OF POSEIDON. He's just got SUCH A MASSIVE PRESENCE whenever he's in frame, he FEELS intimidating
The ancients Greeks were terribly afraid of death at sea because it was impossible to recuperate the bodies and so the poor souls were left to wonder out of the underworld since there had not been a right funeral for them, your Poseidon just incarnate that fear so well!! THIS IS AMAZING!! They way he has just inflicted the worst punishment for them and their families this is exactly how I imagined this song to look! You are great!,
I remember hearing that apparently dying at sea was worse cause their souls basically belonged to the sea now forever restless
@@Shadowblader98Yep that is pretty much right, you have to think that navigation in the Mediterranean Sea, especially in the zone around Ancient Greek territory was very hazardous because of the winds and sea currents that would develop around the islands that were on course and there were no life saving swimming techniques that would help at the time so falling in the ocean was a sure death sentence but the real problem was not death itself as it was pretty much an accepted part of life in their culture, it was the loss or the disfigurement of the body that really scared the Greeks, it was dishonourable to not give the proper funeral to the dead, reason why they usually took time to clean the battle fields too, leaving their dead to rot and being scavenged by the animals (birds and dogs as the Iliad cites if I remember correctly) was a terrible thing to do, but at sea nothing could be saved, the men claimed by it were lost forever
Also there are funerary rights where people put coins on the dead eyes so that they could pay charon’s toll on the styx river and enter realm of the dead. If you died at sea and your body lost, no one can give them the toll. So their souls are stuck in the sea or on the wrong side of the river. Never to enter.
@@Ananomouse wasn't the rite to put the coin under the tongue not eyes?
@@Shadowblader98 both are correct, it depended on what tradition was used and where: the Persians introduced the tradition of giving a coin to the dead for the afterlife to the Greeks so they probably later adapted it in using two coins for the eyes, the ritual was found also in the Romans in the a.C centuries so there probably existed different kinds of rituals, Charon would still take the money no matter from where you cough it out 😂
Im not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but I love it when Poseidon goes from horse to giant with his foot on the ship, how the water is his cloak. It's such a small detail that adds so much to the fact that Poseidon is a GOD
Wanted to comment this but I was already scrolling lol. Glad someone said this, it’s such a cool detail :D
Small details is all that matters
"When does a ripple become a tidal wave?" When Poseidon gets pissed off because you literally blinded one of his million sons to save 600 people's lives.
the parallel from Poseidon dropping the baby gave me chills. He's saying 'maybe if you hadn't killed this child, none of this would have happened'. literal chills
думаю, немного иначе: когда Одиссей убил младенца, он защищал свою страну от возможности восстания против себя. Была вероятность, что выживший ребëнок узнает, как жестоко обошлись с его настоящим домом и будет мстить. И когда Посейдон швыряет тень с формой ребенка, он как бы говорит: "вот ситуация такая же, конечно же мне придëтся защищать свою репутацию бога, даже если мне пофиг на этого циклопа. Я вынужден из-за тебя марать руки о твой флот, может, хоть скажешь, что тебе жаль?" И тут Одиссей врет ему вместо извинений, ещë и улыбается, а после ещë и сбегает. Спойлер: я понимаю, почему в песне Get in the Water Посейдон грозится после такого унизительного проступка выколоть глаза сыну Одиссея, если главный герой не даст сделать хотя бы видимость мести и дальше будет вести себя слишком нагло
"That cyclop was my son!" "How was I supposed to know? God genetics makes _zero_ sense."
Just dont enter a random cave with jars and cheese (artificial things, thus created by someone), and starts to drink and eat.
poseidon inflicted emotional damage on odysseus when he dropped that baby, holy shit
and then he got ragdolled for good measure
when Poseidon says "and now it is finally time to say goodbye, today you die, unless of course you apologize for my son's pain and all his strife" and Odysseus's response "Poseidon we meant no harm, we only hurt him to disarm him, we took no pleasure in his pain, we only wanted to escape." isn't actually an apology, it was an excuse for his actions. Not saying this would make him free or stop Poseidon but it was still the only request Poseidon made for -maybe letting him live and Odysseus still didn't go through with it.
There's an interesting pair of interpretations for this. The first is that Poseidon really doesn't want to go through with this, so he asks something simple on Odysseus in order to give him an out. Then when Odysseus throws it back in his face, going beyond mere pride (which Poseidon just called him out on and said 'that's what I hate.') and into full blown Hubris. So his lashing out and giving a 'cruel mercy' that cost nearly all his men their lives is entirely on Odysseus and a result of Poseidon's mercy being thoroughly run out. His line about how the world is dark and 'close your heart' is thus the give away that he really didn't want to, but now he truly must do terrible punishment. This lends itself to an interpretation of his lyrics about 'The line between Hope and Naiveté is often invisible.' where he is reminding himself that his hope Odysseus would take the lesson to heart and ruthlessly tear down his own pride to save his men's lives was Naïve. The second is that Poseidon knew exactly what kind of man Odysseus was and specifically crafted everything up to that point as a trap to get Odysseus to display Hubris to his face, where effectively no punishment could possibly be off the table. (See Sisyphus and Prometheus for examples) For the Olympian pantheon's universal rule is 'Do not disrespect the Gods to their face.' it's one of the very few things they all agree on, even the most merciful don't put up with that. The moment Odysseus failed to learn the lesson (that was presented in such a way as to prickle his pride) all those flowery words about how important the lesson was? That's him mocking Odysseus as hard as the dropped water baby did. It's 'This is you, this is what you sound like when you condescend to your betters.' followed up by the most cruel punishment Poseidon believed he could enact. (at least without someone else from the pantheon stepping in.) I lean towards the first, because it fits the theme and lesson going on here. Odysseus's pride is getting them all killed when they actually could have avoided that. But there is something compelling about the second, because the entire song is Poseidon expertly ripping into Odysseus, torturing him emotionally in a manner only a God's understanding could enable. Plus, this is a Deity, it can always be both. Poseidon came to smite and then had a second thought about it, so he offered Odysseus a chance to prove he wasn't what Poseidon hates so much. Odysseus promptly jumped up and down on that landmine in the worst way.
I still get chills when the other ships are being drowned, helplessly begging their captain to save them.
I love your version of Poseidon. He’s not just some powerful, magical person - he’s a force of nature, wild, uncontrollable, and totally unconcerned with human casualties when it comes to getting revenge. He’s simultaneously totally inhuman and somehow still very tied to the depths of human passion and cruelty.
Just as the Greek gods are
You can see for a moment that he seems regretful of killing the 550 crew members because it was because of Odysseus’s hubris that he had to make an example of them
Love the long-haired look you gave poseidon. For some reason. That's always a look reserved for Hades, but I really get why poseidon would look like that. He looks more like a man who had been adrift at see for ages. And the heavy emphasis on how his anger would manifest was great.
It also looks like a wild horses' mane.
@@fbiuzz and seaweed
I thought the hair was long and dark to be like the encompassing depths of the sea like floating in the ocean and looking straight down
During the Mycenaean period Poseidon was also lord of the underworld so it fits.
Zeus, Poseidon and Hades all have similar hair and beard
This is such a sick way to depict Poseidon, the way he flows between forms, the watery arm, the way he throws them around, he feels every inch god and force of nature at once, it's so cool.
Not only was he the God of the Seas and water in general. He was also the God of Horses and Earthquakes. I love seeing his horse form.
"43 left under your command" my absolute favorite line and you NAILED it with those scary ass horse eyes 😭👌🏼
It's so mocking and cruel lol
@@DelanoSeven7deservedly. ody lied in a GODS FACE.
@@kariissmol9172 that already threatened to kill him if he didn’t apologize. Ody, what are you thinking? You revealed your name to the cyclops like he wasn’t going to tell Poseidon that it was you. And then you say “we meant no harm we only hurt him to disarm him, we took no pleasure in his pain we only wanted to escape” like the men that died mean nothing. What happened to “remember them, they will not die in vain”? The heck is going through your mind, Ody?!
“All I gotta do is open this bag!”
@@Camp_Half_Blood_Is_Herehe even lowkey mocked him when he told him his name and said smth like “remember me when you decide not to spare people, I am your darkest moment”
..I think this is the best Epic animatic I've ever seen, the fluidity, the designs, the actual creeps Poseidon's horse form gives, the horror of the crew drowning. It's just perfect you're an amazing animator
So much this, the horses brought all my fear of kelpies to life!
The dang scene where the horse looms over the ships and the bass drops and the whole scene of them drowning is still giving me damn chills. That is all.
This is one of those amazing animatics where you can rewatch it a dozen times and still find something new to enjoy. A moment that I love is at 1:47: in the brief second before he turns to Odysseus he looks so affectionate towards the baby in his arms - is this a memory of when Polyphemus was a baby? It's a good reminder that Poseidon was actually a decent divine parent compared to most of the pantheon. I also love 2:54, where he literally stops seeing Odysseus as a person. He's closing his heart to all the paperwork he's about to give Hades. Every god Odysseus has talked to so far - Zeus, Athena, Aeolus - has told Odysseus that he must walk a ruthless path. Poseidon, in all his eldritch equine glory, is giving him an object lesson in why he can't have his cake (remain unchanged by his experiences) and eat it too (return home).
*Hades chilling* *a lot of persons fall to the Underworld* Hades:¡¿¡¿BUT WHAT THE GODDES HAPPEN HERE?!?! *39 hours after* Hades:finally i finished all the paperwork...i'm gonna kill you Poseidon....i wanna sleep T_T
@@Kawaii_yeni Hades chilling a lot of persons fall to the Underworld Hades: What happened here? [One explanation later] Hades: Odysseus, you idiot. I'm putting you on my list for when you get here.
I have never seen a more terrifying portrayal of Poseidon. AND YOU LEANED INTO THE WEIRD HORSE GOD THING. AND IT MADE IT SCARIER. wtf. The motion was so engaging as well. So much storytelling and expression. Fantastic work
AND EVERY BIT OF HORSE SYMBOLISM JUST TIES BACK TO THE TROJAN HORSE!? IT WORKS SO WELL.
@@claran3616 agh! Fr!!
“Close your heart.” He was closing his heart for the 550 lives he was about to snuff out. I loved it!
This reply comes 4 weeks later at the time of me writing this, but 557* lives he was about to snuff out. Odysseus starts with 600 men under his command then pisses Poseidon off to the point that in a single moment, it's whittled down to 43.
@@dearroseprincess289 I know, I was just rounding
@@dearroseprincess289 well, Polyphemus killed the 7 on the first ship, which only had 43, and the rest were full and got killed. There were only 43 on Odysseus’s ship, the rest that got drowned had the other 550
I absolutely ADORE how at 1:12 it seems as if Poseidon is physically kicking up the waves as he runs. It actually provides some level of connection between Poseidon's domains as god of the sea and god of horses that has a line of reasoning behind it. I love all the parts where you make use of Poseidon's associations with horses, but this bit in particular really sold it to me as something that could be an intrinsic part of his current characterization, rather than it just being a vestigial trait.
Poseidon's fluidity is absolutely masterful. The form he takes as he crawls along the ship's rails was incredibly unsettling. ❤
This is tickling my brains in ALL the right ways, including him playing out Odysseus dropping the baby, and the “ALL I GOTTA DO IS OPEN THIS BAG, *W H A T?!* ”
I loved the 'dropping the baby' part in it. It really underlines how bizarre it actually is that he let the cyclops live at all. Like. You killed an innocent infant but let the monster that killed several of your men (including your best friend) live?
@@Cheshiregrinn91 The great offense wasnt that he was inconsistent with his mercy, its that he lies to even himself, disguising cowardice and tactical extraction BOTH the same as true mercy, offending the gods who quite literally choose to spare us every day, showing true clemency, and being spun as vindictive monsters when they, in their own celestial scope, act proportionate to THEIR emotions. Edit: for clarification, the God Poseidon is probably mad cuz they can't see the humanity in the gods just cuz they're powerful, similar to the psyclops who acted just like any greek rancher would at the time, and when the gods know better cuz they've practically existed forever, man thinks it can fool them with some disingenuity.
Okay maybe it's just me but is Poseidon drawn at a different frame rate than Odysseus and the crew? He's so fluid--it really shows the idea that he's a god on a different playing field than the rest of them. I've watched this at least fifteen times in the past two days. This is genuinely incredible.
It's likely, a lot of his scenes are done in a silhouette, which is a lot easier to animate rather than whole detailed line art characters. Especially for the scenes where Poseidon is all watery
Oh yeah, absolutely. Between the horse scene and all of the times he formed on the ship, he's almost fully animated a bunch of the time.
The thing I love most about this is how Poseidon kept him alive at the end. He easily could have caught and killed them, but he chose to let them go. This is the best thing I've seen in awhile, I love it!
I am absolutely speechless. The use of the horse to create this horrifying and beast-like image of Poseidon, the imagery of Poseidon dropping his "son" mirroring Odysseus dropping the infant from the walls of Troy, the depiction of all the men drowning-- this is truly one of if not THE best EPIC animatic I've seen (and trust me, I've binge watched a LOT of them lol). Keep doing what you're doing, man, it's absolutely incredible.
I love how you made Poseidon's expression at 2:49 look like he's just thinking ' you really think I bought any of that?'
Feels more like he's upset that Odysseus himself bought that.
Poseidon suggested he apologize. Odysseus, notably, never actually did. He rationalized, but did not apologize. And I think Poseidon caught that.
@@TheLadyGrimm maybe but the words that Poseidon responds with imply that rather than being upset about what is technically, not an apology, He is more trying to teach Odysseus a lesson about letting enemies live. "The line between naivety and hopefulness is almost invisible so close your heart. The world is dark and ruthlessness is mercy"
@@ilyte1I see your point. Personally, I think that it means more towards Poseidon's disgust. When he says the line you quoted I believe he is referring to Odysseus trying to be clever. The Gods in Greek mythology never go back on their word. At least not that I can remember. Usually they lay out a deal for the mortal with strict conditions, like with Hades and Orpheus. So, with that said, I think Poseidon genuinely would have let Odysseus go had he actually apologized. I mean, Odysseus is a prideful man, but he's earned it because he is actually clever. But Poseidon knows this. He's watching for it. So when he says "the line between naivety and hopefulness is almost invisible," seems like he's calling Odysseus out for trying to pull one over on him. In a very "You really tried that. With me. After everything I just showed you. I can't tell if you were being hopeful that I wouldn't catch that or are just so naive you don't truly understand the situation you're in." And when Odysseus didn't apologize, after Poseidon clearly laid out the terms of the deal, he followed through with what he said would happen. He sank the ships and drowned most of the men.
@@matthewellis9955YESSS THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT
The pure DISTRESS on Odysseus's face compared to the eldritch horror of Poseidon's horse form is so raw. Adore it. Even despite not having pupils its so easy to tell in Poseidon's human form how much he loves to tear at Odysseus's pride, ego and heart. That baby reference was downright cruel yet so interesting.
I can't stop watching. Poseidon manhandling Odysseus-whirlpool sequence, the expressions, the CREEPY HORSE!! The wolves swimming with the shark part 🥺🔥🔥 so vengeful and ready to show Odysseus his place as a mortal. I'm in love with Poseidon's eyes throughout the piece. SOBBED cuz the drowning sequence hurt my heart. Thank you for making this!!!❤❤
i ADORE how fluid Poseidon's form is throughout this - from the horse to the way his robes seem to meld with the sea - it's absolutely perfect. The sequence with the drowning man was absolutely haunting as well.
1:49 God just this part! The mockery Poseidon does towards Odysseus about dropping the baby at war! He really went for a stab at the heart before insulting Odysseus further by throwing him around like a doll in front of all those men who probably respected Odysseus I love your animatics so much for this musical and I can't wait to see more!
I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT THIS
I LOVE how creepy horse Poseidon looks at the end, this is amazing
The fathomless vastness, beauty and ruthlessness of the sea, all colliding in one form. 10/10
that horse’s face at the end is genuinely TERRIFYING
I love how Odysseus played the blame game on the cyclops 💀
Anyone else notice how 4:07 looks like the ship is sticking out the middle finger at Poseidon LOL
"It Is narrated that even Ulysses's ship sent the God of Oceans and horses to fuck himself" -Homer, probably, idk.
I can’t unsee it
1:49 in my head, this is poisdon calling Odyessus out on his double standards "So you'll kill an infant child to prevent him from being a threat, but not the active threat that was my son?"
"You reveal your name! then you let him live!" always gets me. Like what the hell was Odysseus trying to accomplish by doing that and what the hell could he hope to even say to Poseidon to escape from this situation? Then he goes and takes the god for a fool. The man's hubris is incommensurable and i love the various shades of grey in it.
This was my first exposure to EPIC, so I extend my sincerest thanks! But not only that, the animation is beautifully done, like seriously I love everything about it!
Welcome down a fun rabbit hole
The horse has such a cool double meaning: It is symbolic of Poseidon, AND a nod to the Trojan horse. A.k.a Poseidon taunting Odysseus’s trauma.
Okay, after 3 rewatches, I’m ready to write a comment. First of all, holy shit, Poseidon is terrifying. I love that you used his animal, the horse as a form for him. Powerful anyimal, and holy shit, somehow terrifying. The way he shapeshifts so fluidly too. The water arm as he grabs Odysseus, THE WAY HE CRAWLS ON THE RAILINGS, gives me the shivers. I love how rough he is with Odysseus, ruthless indeed. And the mocking of “killing a son” with Hector’s baby, dropping the baby the same way Odysseus dropped the kid over the wall. And the way he shakes Odysseus around, like the dude is being tossed by the wave, almost telegraphing what Poseidon is about to do to the fleet? Brilliant. Chef’s kiss. And Odysseus, clearly not in control probably for the first time in the musical, clearly being mentally thrown too, beside the physical. How he is trying to aim for manipulative with the apology (really well drawn, little exaggerations of expression and movement), and then yet again getting thrown by what happens. This is so good, it’s out of this world. This is the first animatic where i was actually afraid of the god depicted. It is so obvious that they are unequipped to deal with what is happening. The way you drew the fleed goinf down is, again, terrifying. Their wide eyes, the way their arms claw for the surface…freaking brilliant. I have no words for how amazing this animatic is. And how Poseidon just stands there at the end…chilld. Absolute chills. You are so good, holy shit, I love everything about it (and while writing this comment finished my 4th watch :) )
Yoooooooooo same here! :D
I find it fascinating that Poseidons face in this almost looks like a horse, long, narrow, the beard sculpting a specific shape out of it. Shows that even when playing nice with mortals, his realm is on display, or soemthing
POSEIDONS CLOTHING BEING AN ACTUAL PART OF THE SEA??!?!!!! I’m so in love with this entire animatic but I really really love that detail so much
I never thought horses were creepy until this animatic. LOVE the way you portrayed Poseidon, it really does look and sound like it's taking everything he has not to snap Odysseus's neck right then and there.
That Berserk horse at 3:42 was really well played.
Someone hasn't played Bloodborne lmao
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I’ve disliked horses since one bit me in high school. This animatic did not help.
I love the “invisible” as Odysseus’s face goes away and the cyclops eye in the background of Poseidon. Disassociating and just letting his rage for his son’s pain guide his hand.
The freaking attention to detail in this animatic is *chefs kiss*✨ I mean holy shit, the way Odysseus is just freaking manhandled by Poseidon, the use of the Lord of the Horses symbology mixed with the Trojan Horse, the eerie fury thats showed by Poseidon, the whole 'cradling the baby before letting him drop' in min 1:42 just like Odysseus had done himself in Just a Man, showing his own hypocrisy because he killed many men and a baby, someone's son, yet he wouldn't kill the cyclops, Poseidon's son. The freaking smile as Odysseus gives his not-even-half-assed-apollogy face expressions, the way Poseidon just flows around like water while the others are more static, the whole nightmare fuel horse of fury, the drowning scene, just... Wow
I love how Poseidon so easily makes Odysseus seem like a small boy in comparison to him, dragging and tossing him around. Well animated, the drowning scene is nearly heartbreaking to watch.
I absolutely adore the way Poseidon's hair and beard frame his humanoid face! The shapes REALLY read horse to me. Such a fantastic choice in character design.
Didn’t even realize that. Good eye.
The way Posiedon just manhandles Odyesseyus shocked me. The fury and helplessness were perfectly captured.
Odysseus said his name and that he’s the king of Ithaca to the foe he just maimed, basically his name and address, what next? You gone give him directions to your door?
the fluidity of Posseidon's movements BRO utilising the whole god of the sea in everything thing he does, in every form he takes. Like him being a fluid and raging like the ocean IS SO IMPRESSIVE
This is sooo amazing! I love how you make Poseidon wild, powerfull, cold and horrifying and yet some small part he is so gentle. When he grabs Odyseius arm with aggression, yet he put him down on deck gently. He put his foot on the boat and then pick the boar upp so softlig. And his face when he looks on the water baby go from tender to ruthersness. Still Poseidon offer Odysseus the oportunity to apologisy for what he did... and Odysseus never take it, never said he was sorry for Cyclops pain and tears... Odysseus had one chans to maybe, maybe, save his and the others lives. But he never take it... Odysseus was like "I am so sorry you fell so, but we just want to run" Poseidons small hint of softness was gone when he heard Odysseus non apologetisc answer. He was a fathers rage infront of his childs abuser. So many details! You are a wolderfull animator! ❤
I actually think Odysseus's apology was solid, but that it comes off worse because it has to fit the tune of the song. It's very clearly saying "I'm sorry, we didn't mean to cause any injury, this was all a misunderstanding" And further, Poseidon *knows* this I think a more fitting reading is that Poseidon wanted Odysseus to show "ruthlessness." Even after that speech and threat, Odysseus still was an upstanding guy who genuinely felt bad. Poseidon says he wants Odysseus to learn Poseidon's worldview, but instead he clings to "false righteousness," which is what makes Poseidon decide to go for the kill. Though, after the speech on "ruthlessness is mercy" ... He probably would've gone for the kill no matter what Odysseus did!
@@mr.alpaca2663Actually Odysseus never apologize for hurting the Cyclops. Noticably he is trying to frame it as a form of self-defense ('we only hurt him to disarm him', we only wanted to escape'). Which while true would only pissed off Posiedon more. Additionally the part of Odysseus 'taking no pleasure in his pain' is a downright lie, since the reason Odysseus shouted his name is so the Cyclops can always remember who blinded him.
@@fbiuzz I consider the explanation a valid apology because the song logically has to shorten the "actual" words of the characters. This is also noticable in "Horse and the Infant" where Odysseus gives commands to, like, 8 out of several hundred men or "Keep your friends close" when the explanation of the Bag of the Winds was kept to just a couple of lines. Hence, my interpretation of the apology is based on the tone as much as the words, which is definitely apologetic. The words themselves support this by being an explanation for the misunderstanding.
@@mr.alpaca2663 The names Odysseus mentions in Horse and the Infant are more or less the other major players in the Trojan War alongside Odysseus - frequently kings, princes and great warriors. Agamemnon was the _leader_ of the Greek army, Menelaus was his brother, Nestor was an elderly king but veteran warrior, Diomedes, Teucer, Ajax the Lesser and Neoptolemus were all princes. If Odysseus is commanding them, then it can be assumed that any of their own men would also be following those orders.
@@mr.alpaca2663 But Poseidon is a god. He don't want excuses, he want a truly apologie.
This is probably my favorite design/portrail of Poseidon across all media.
The horse form of Posidion is genius, especially when you look at how some mythologies like Celtic and Nordic have monstrous horses in some of their stories that actively hunt and drown travellers.
I love how you clearly do your research in this. Poseidon is in one moment a horse and moments where it's a horse/dolphin swirling in the ocean. Lots of thoughts and details, clearly a lot of hard work was put into this. Now I gotta check out more of your work.
I think he became more hippocampus once he submerged which is a cross between horse and fish. Like a merhorse.
I just adore how you even introduce Posideon making clear of his God of Horses as well before appearing as a man before the bow of the ship. His movements are so fluid and you get the sense he is the water himself as he constantly shifts and threatens Odysseus 's crew with death shoving his ships just enough to get the point. And the way Posideon shows the baby, 1:45 calling back to Troy where Odysseus did the exact same thing is genius! 1:50 Posideon knew he was capable of ruthlessness and the fact he didn't get the job done is hypocritical when Odysseus already crossed the line with Astyanax. Mercy had a price and Odysseus understood it then why shouldn't he understand it with Polyphemus? This is the god of the oceans and sea and he is making it very clear what he is and Odysseus and his crew are powerless to get in his way. I also love how you portrayed Odysseus it reminds me of another animatic with Polyphemus and trying to use his words to get his way out of it almost hoping he would. He even looks smug, and arrogant ( 2:41 - 2:46 ) almost like in the scene he revealed his name to the Polyphemus. 1:58 And the way Posideon ruthlessly puts an end to any semblance of that notion of mercy and the chaos, the rough drawings used to depict the drowning of the rest of his crew is WOW! It's brutal and great. I adore how mosterous Posideon is in the scene as the horse he first appeared as, killing hundred of men in seconds. you even used watercolours to emphasis the point. Smudging their lives in darkness It's amazing! And while Odysseus ultimately escapes you get the sense of how Posideon still shadows the journey, a dark reminder.
I’m still kinda focusing on the moment where Poseidon slaps and yanks Odysseus around. You can clearly see the many emotions that the guy goes through.
I don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet, but I absolutely love the contrast at the start. Odysseus and his men are shown on the ship, meanwhile as soon as Poseidon appears, he takes up the ENTIRE FRAME. It's just such a nice way to show how small they all are, compared to one of the prime gods of the Greek mythos. I mean this one being has complete dominion over the sea, so him swelling over the ship displays that immense power very well.
I kept trying to figure out why the part with the drowning men screaming "captain" kept sticking out so much. It's because the pattern is incomplete by one. Matching the song, it should've had one more "captain" but it was cut short suddenly like their lives. Great song. Also: Dude, please open your bag BEFORE Posidon kills everyone.
There is a brutal irony to not having killed the Cyclops after killing Hector's child back in Troy in order to avoid a future fate. Having Posiedon holding a shaow child as he sang that line was a brutal reminder of what Odysseus has already done, a demonstartably even more ruthless action than killing the Cyclops would have been.