The Best Gaming Headset Right Now - PC38X Review
The original Sennheiser PC37 and PC37X are still legendary gaming headsets but now its being made even better with the Drop + Sennheiser PC38X. With the PC38X availability right now and its price being higher than the PC37X, is the PC38X worth it versus the competition that's becoming better and better these days? Also can we solve the PC38X vs PC37X debate right away for being the best gaming headset and are there alternatives?
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Now I remember why I own 6 pairs of headsets, it's cause of this dude
I just brought the blackshark v2 pro wireless, now tempted to get the PC38X haha
@@iflyaustralia1751 bought
@@smarshallsay Wow you’ve definitely got plenty of time on your hands 😅😂😅😂
@@iflyaustralia1751 i returned them back because the sound was too light for my ears. Waiting for the pc38x . Hopefully won't be disappointed
Yeah, me too. I bought the PC37X in late March 2021 now I want this MASSDROP X SENNHEISER PC38X. My wifey just doesn't understand why?
One of the few videos out there that actually compares microphone quality. The back to back sound quality test for the microphone is really appreciated. I suspected _any_ BT headphones with microphones would be appreciably worse. This proved that, not that Logitech is going to have the best microphones, or even better than Sennheiser. Overall, this type of review is exactly why I come to KZhead for reviews. Thank you!
Thank you for the review Star lord.
that logitech one looks like a child's version lol
ye it kinda looks, but the black version looks way better, still prefer my logitech g pro x tho
The razor one looks like something an air traffic controller would wear
just look amazon best seller headsets, a bunch of plastic toys that sounds like crap but hey they got rgb yahoo
Sennheiser makes great products and great customer service. Sad thing is Logitech used to be but I have had nothing but the worst experience with them.
@@tpop3723 Logitech bought by who?
youve convinced me. your production quality is top tier too much appreciated
Omg, I was waiting to buy the 37x one and this came out! Glad I waited :d
Definitely need an always up to date Dmitry headphone tier list on headphones.
I have been using the Sennheiser PC360 (the original model of these from before Drop got involved) since about January 2015. They are still going strong and they see daily use in both gaming and on my work from home setup since 2016. Absolutely rock solid and easily worth every penny.
Considering using one for work , is the microphone really good ?
In 2 years I went through 3 pairs of 37X headphones, paired with the GSX1000 Amp. The drivers developed a rattle whenever bass hit. Almost like they couldn't handle the amp. I went with the HD58X with a mod mic wireless and using the same amp and haven't looked back. Shout out to Drops customer service tho, no issues exchanging the 37x's three times lol
Just received my PC38X today that i'm using with the Sennheiser GSX 1000 and I love it! Sound quality and comfort are top notch. I'm using the velvet ear pieces as for me they are more comfortable of the two options included. Just hung up my GSP 500 headset!
omg Dimitri, those blue Logitech G733 look hilarious :D
Right? I made a mistake asking for the blue model ... -D.
Nah THEY made a mistake making a blue model 😂
@@chrisbertolino2116 It is so absurd that it goes all the way and starts looking... sort of decent to my eye..... but I laugh every time I see it.
@@chrisbertolino2116 Someone posted in another thread that it was the perfect headset for a Megaman cosplay...
I think it’s just aimed at different audiences. Like, yeah, it does look cheaper, but it doesn’t look bad. I think that the RGB looks great, but you might not. However, ugh, the Logitech one is glossy
Oh man you're the guy that made me get the 37x. They're super comfy and my ears don't get hot or sweaty at all with them. I'd buy the 38x if it just came in all black. Wish the microphone was removeable too.
DatGrunt hows the clamping force
@@swaguel They never felt tight or loose on my head. Pretty great fit. Had them for about a year and a half now and no issues.
they already go with my setup color scheme so I might get the update
my setup is black and yellow so this is what ive been dreaming of lol
Honestly, if you'd like different headphones without the mic, I'd recommend getting DROP's HD6xx's. Much better sound quality. I have the PC38x's and the HD6xx's and just swap between them when I do and do not need a mic. I used to use an Antlion mic on the HD6xx's but the additional cables were annoying and it developed a short in the line that killed it. Much as a removable mic can be nice, I find the removable ones are more prone to failure than something built in.
There’s always that one dude who is always breathing into the mic...
While voting in amongus
Unfortunately not just one by any means:)
5:15 Mic Test
This review was exactly what I was looking for.Thank you
Quick note. For the concern about denting in the outer mesh, it could easily be popped back out with anything that will fit into the mesh that is sturdy enough to apply pressure to. A sturdy sewing needle or thin metal probe, etc. could do the trick. I purchased the 37X in March, 2019 and loved it from the start. Then in March of this year I bought the GSP 500 in an attempt to upgrade my sound quality even more, but found the comfort level to be the worst of any headset I have used. So I am very interested in the 38X, however, one issue I've experienced with the 37X is the mic picking up my breathing MUCH more than the GSP 500 due to the length of the mic arm. I wish Sennheiser had reduced the length of the mic arm to keep it out from under the nose and not directly in front of the mouth. My GSP 500 mic is still a better quality and does not pick up incidental sounds as much. As much as I'd love to get the 38X, I will instead look for ways to better pad the top bar of my GSP 500 headset. Side note: I also bought the GSX 1000 Gaming Amp with my GSP 500 and am very pleased with it. However, I also have the EVGA Nu Audio sound card and find it provides much better clarity and mic support. So it is something to consider if you are looking for an audio amp.
Bro the h6 pro is better in audio? I want the headset with the best audio possible, sorry my English, I from Brazil.
@@joaovitorgoncalves3439 the PC38X will slay the H6 pro
the mesh usually pops out itself anyways
@@Destinylover14 I was thinking about getting it myself
3 years too late, but i just got a windscreen on my pair and it helps tons
what would be the best headset linup for competitive fps gaming by you, will be waiting for that video to drop. have a good day m8
I think if you have the 37X already then it really isn’t worth upgrading... but definitely if you’re coming from something like the Razor. I recently upgrade the ear pads on my 37X to the Dekoni ones and I’m amazed how much it’s brought out the bass on my 37X. So instead of upgrading your 37X just change up the ear pads.
Video suggestion! I know theres tons of videos out there of amps/dacs, headphones, and mics. What would be nice if there was a video that combined all 3/4 at various price points. To be more exact i am a console player (PS4/5). Been using astro A50s since PS3. I have been looking to do a custom setup to get better quality and value in the $400 range. But, when i start to research i get overwhelmed by all the information and stats to the point that i get confused or just give up for awhile. I am sure i am not the only one that feels this way and would love some videos that did this.
It isn't difficult to bend the metal grill/casing on the Drop PC38X headset,back properly to it's shape if you end up bending it inwards. Can use any wire bend it in a shape of a hook ,just make sure it can fit and go through the metal grill and easy to work with. For example(steps and warnings):- Just use a safety pin , you can use the U shaped end of it to hook in the bend metal frame out , may require a few/many of em to do it evenly and properly at a time to not mess up more.
I really cant agree on this - As an Aussie I purchased from drop got them sent and after much research I confirmed that the mic was inoperable/broken; This after ALSO purchasing an EPOS amp to run them through thinking this might be a fix. Yet no. Via various boards across the internet I found this was a common issue. So in contact with Drop they are happy to exchange *if* I send the item back to them that would take about two months of postage time and of not having a headset. Essentially I'll have to buy another headset if I want to get my headset fixed ...So while this might be an option in the US/Canada I cant recommend the headset for other customers.
I got the 37x and honestly guys that was one of my best purchases voor my pc. When the 38x all in black comes out id recommend it.
me too, it sounds absolutely amazing
Me 3, great headset.
I completely agree, I had my pc37x for a while, before Dimitri covered it. Also agree with a black out, though I think I will stick with my pc37x for now.
@byron stahlmann bro dont wait until the 38x comes in all black bro.
@Byron Betancourt What did you end up doing?
I just got my PC38x based on your recommendation, and WOW! These things are super comfortable! Thanks! 😁
ive been searching for a headset that fits my setup. this is perfect i tried the corsair void but it was too big for my small head
I wish that they released the 38x with a removable/ upgraded mic. I also wish it was black in color. I also want to see if they will sell the new ear pads separately.
*Me, still using my Sennheiser Game One since 2014. Sennheiser is just the King :)
Same. My favorite headphones.
PC 350SE Gang....
The pc37x is based on the G4ME One. My old man has the G4ME One and the build quality seems better than my pc37x. It seems more premium.
Still on my first pair of PC 360's!
Haha i used my PC363D sinced 6 years :D
Hey man, as always, love your videos! How far is the difference between PC38X and The GSP 300 would you say? I know mic is amazing on both and while i game mostly competitive, i do want headphones that's good overall.
Wow been looking around all day and finally came across this guy. Thank you. Honestly really a breath of fresh air to hear someone speak professional specs with confidence. If you ever need some sort of music, let me know haha. Thanks for the tips, ill be sure to use your link ! and lol.. 'links not drinks'
I can't be the only one who was looking forward to the Mic comparison being done by doing a reading from a book.....right?.......
Great review. I have the 37X and I love it. Tempted to buy the 38x, but I think I'm more into a bright sound stage if I'm being honest. I think I'll just buy myself some dedicated headphones for music listening if I want to improve upon the 37X sound quality. And for anyone reading this that doesn't have one of these sets, definitely get them. Typically gaming headsets aren't good for music, but these definitely don't fall into that stereotype (no pun-intended... ok maybe a little intended).
Hello I know it’s been a while since this was posted but do you think these headphones are still the best in the market for open back at $180? Or has something else come out since then that is worth checking out?
This is spooky, I was just watching your PC37X video a few hours ago and now this comes out! Crazy!
I've had mine since January, and I must say, you've hit the nail on the head
When you play tarkov, do you use this or the sxfi gamer?
How would this headset stack up to the Sennheiser G4ME headset? Would you recommend the upgrade, or just stick with what I have already?
great review as always!! I wonder, do you still use the schiit gaming dac/amp or would you recommend something else with this headset?
right after I watched this i google open vs closed back for gaming and one of yyour videos was the number 1 result! I really like your videos brother!
I would love if you could review the new Bose Quiet Comfort 35 II Gaming Headset for comparison, as these seem to be the base line for a great headset
Great product unless you don't live in the US. Customs fees quickly eat up the point of buying anything on Drop internationally.
I was wondering the same thing.. i live in portugal and i cant find this anywhere. I was thinking to get my hands on the Sennheiser game Zero, any thoughts? :)
To get them, maybe ask a family member or a friend who lives in the US or somewhere Drop delivers to. That's what I'm doing to get mine.
That uh... that still doesn't help with several issues. 1. Shipping costs to whereever. 2. Customs fees ( A lot of countries don't have "gift" as an excuse to avoid customs fees, because companies abuse it) 3. Warranty (and thus more shipping costs)
@@amshermansen Sorry I really don't know how it works in other countries, in mine getting the product in is a great hassle but the lady who brings things for me somehow doesn't take too long and doesn't ask for an immense fee.
@@pedrocunha4322 Go for the game one, its identical to the pc37x which itself is almost identical to the pc38x. The game zero's difference is that it has the closed design, but if you want open design like the pc37x and pc38x, the game one is that.
I love the way you switch the color in the background of your vids. Keep it up! If you get the chance check out the new Bose QC35II Gaming Headset
I second this. I have the Bose gaming headset and so far after 2 months I’m not impressed by the sound. Thinking about returning them but I have no idea what to replace them with. I hope he puts out a review soon before my return window expires.
I love that you showed us the low end and how it compares to the PC38X but how does it compare to the higher-end gaming headsets?
Dude. I was tired of looking for reviews where people were using games other than competitive FPSes for the audio quality comparisons. Finally found one. Loved this video. You've just helped me confirm my next purchase that I'd been hovering over for 5-6 months now.
Did you get it? I’m on the same boat
@@mr_red13 I ordered it a few weeks ago. Still waiting for it. Mine's an international shipment so it's gonna take some time. If you drop me a message on gmail or something, I'll let you know once I get it.
@@theimpudentwanderer how have they been?
@@theimpudentwanderer footsteps/ gaming wise
@@yungty3837mine are coming in a few days ill let you know bro lol
These are the same price as the jubilee 58x, we need a full comparison between the two. I know the 58x would sound little bit better overall but comfort wise and other stuff might not.
Did you get one or the other?
Agree, being very picky with headphones I would like a comparison on comfort
Thanks for the mic comparison!
Great review as always, thank you!
4:52 Lighting change to indicate mute and unmute. I see you have a background in film or you've done this for so long you've gotten really good at cinematography lol
I will say I just bought the PC38X's got them on sale for Christmas, wasn't ever a fan of open backs but these have completely replaced all my other headsets. The sound quality is amazing there comfortable and the mic is fantastic. Highly recommend just Savin up and buying these
I just imported them from USA, how are they mate?
How’s the bass ?
thank you!!! i think you help me make a choice, forget about those headsets on amazon prime day, was going to get the Sennheiser GSP 600, but the PC38X for $20 more just make sense to get.
honestly, the only thing negative about this headset is that I need to train it, like it really squeezes my cheeks that it hurts. so I'm using the box it came in to stretch it out.
Thanks for your review! So how big is a difference in sound quality for gaming g between pc38x and HD650?
I still run my 363D and they still amaze me with their sound quality, would you recomend moving to the 38x or something more high end within sennheiser.
@Qimodis both. Gaming and music. Thinking on the hd 660s
I'm on the same boat.. :"D
When's the all black version coming out........
It's already there, it's called pc37x
you can buy anything else in black
@@kainey Its not the same headset though. The PC38x is an upgraded version of the PC37x. There is currently not a black version of the PC38x
Drop has always been about coming out with an all black. Why have they betrayed us lol.
@@kainey boooooo
Love to see a review of the Beyerdynamic mmx300
I really REALLY would love to hear more about Side-Tone / Mic Monitoring in your reviews. And I would LOVE to see a JBL Quantum One review. I absolutely DISLIKE ALL headsets that do not give me the option to hear my own voice. Hence my comment / question. Hope to hear from you. Thanks for all your videos. They are great!
Open back headsets make it easier to hear your own voice
Though they also leak sound, of course
With open-back headphones it's not really that necessary (although it'll be a neat feature), because it's like you're wearing nothing. I have the Sennheiser PC360 G4ME, which is basically the Game One, before they added all the red, wich is basically the PC37X, and when I put them on it's basically like wearing nothing at all, you can hear everything around, including your voice. But I've also used a headset with side-tone and it's very helpful too, specially to avoid screaming.
@@Murdck_ Exactly. I just don't want to hear my own voice muffled. I'd take side tone or mic monitoring over anything!
I think it is funny that people are so concerned with what the headphone color is and cant even see it on their head. They act like they are going to wear it out in public. They should be more concerned with comfort and sound quality!
The colour is actually kinda nice in person ;)
Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the audio quality of the G733
Thanks, my pc37x work fine and I have had them for 3 years but you convinced me to go and order these
Okay gift me yours 37x please
I'd be all over this if there was a wireless version
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. wallpaper !!!!! I can't wait for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 to come out
I've been looking to upgrade from my Razer Blacksharks/Xbox Wireless. I don't know anything when it comes to headsets and audio so this was a great video. I'm sure coming from those I will be blown away.
Did you like them
Dimitri The reason why the GSP 600 and GSP 500 are big and bulky and their ergonomics in terms of design is so you can use them while you using a VR headset because otherwise you wouldn't be able to use them with VR headset without them being extremely uncomfortable or break and to prevent hot spots with people with wide or tall heads
Still the best headset I’ve used. The sounds stage is amazing. No bass? Not a problem. I can use an equalizer to add a little. The mic is super high quality. Always get asked if I’m a streamer and I don’t do anything but turn up the bass lol
Can you give ur eq settings?
How do you this? I just got mine today and I was really disappointed with the bass. Also did you have problems with the microphone? My microphone doesn’t pick up audio unless I’m almost yelling into it
Hmm considering it after watching this video. To be honest I didn’t even know if it’s existence until the video, so thank you!
I am still using my Sennheiser Game Zero headset which I bought back in 2015. Changed the padding once, and just ordered a new cable, but they are still going strong.
Great review! Do you recommend I replace my 37x with the 38x?
i love how the mic sounds really good, but i HATE the open-back. it produces a lot of echoing during gaming and i’ve got many complaints abt it echoing regardless how low the mic volume and headset volume is lol
Open back is a personal preference thing rather than a right or wrong choice in a lot of things. In comp gaming it has use in better sound depiction and pin pointing and it helps with talking into a microphone and normalizing your voice. Try plugging your ears and talking and youll see what i mean. Closed ear are still very good tho, more of a bass option and better for louder exterior environments
The black and yellow theme seems to be on the climb, probably due to the imminent release of Cyberpunk 2077.
I like how you can see the volume isn't all the way up in one clip, and is all the way up in others.
I wish the mesh pads were available for ordering somewhere. I'd like to pick some up for my PC360. I wonder how those mesh ear pads are affecting the bass vs the velour?
Come for a review of a Sennheiser headset, receive a roast of a logitech headset
God i got some goosebumps while he was making noises with the headset during the unboxing. Is that ASMR?
I do have a question regarding the volume rocker on the cups: Does turning it all the way down actually mute the cups, or does it still have some low volume still playing? I had an older version of these and I loved them, but the volume rocker never went all the way down. :
Thanks for the heads-up, Starlord
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Maybe make a review of beyerdynamic tygr 300r? I hear they are amazing, even better than sennheiser game zero or pc37x. Of course, it's not a headset, but it still looks pretty cool.
They probably do sound better, if PC38X has the same imaging and soundstage as PC37X.
I always went for a Sennheiser headset, but this time i really dislike the black and yellow scene, wish it came in just a black version.
You aren’t really going to be seeing it when you’re wearing it so it shouldn’t bother you too mich
@@arvinnguyen646 he's the type of person to make sure his PC hardwares have RGB.
@Unit-294 but it's not like you're gonna look at the headset while you're gaming anyways.
when's the audio technica and beyerdynamic headsets for gaming reviews coming?
Gracias, por los sustitutos. Me ha ayudado a elegir.
I'm watching it on Sennheiser HD660S on Ifi Zen.. I should be doing my homework though..
Watching and considering a purchase while wearing a pair of HD 6XX's haha.
Donik Same but using Ananda idk if I should get this
4:50 clever, I see what you did there
I’m confused
I was searching for this comment haha.
great video man! Keep it up :)
What mic do you use for your recording of these videos, because that sounds the best of all of the mics...Eww that logitech sounded baaad...by comparison to the razer, even, but the sennheiser sounded alittle warmer. Thanks for the Video guys you always do good reviews.
For me the PC37X‘ mic actually sounded better than the new model although the difference was small.
I agree on that
Agreed aswell, PC37 mic i think sounds smoother which makes it more natural
I'd advise against buying this now. I'm seeing a lot, and I mean A LOT of issues with this model. The drivers, the mic, and the pads are really inconsistent between each unit, and I saw 1 or 2 where the DD just straight up died after a few hours. if they sort out these manufacturing issues it would be an excellent buy.
I haven't purchased from Massdrop (DROP) in while but I can agree to the build quality of their stuff, it's not always the best and the longevity of the quality seems to be short term or have short lifespan. My K7XX number 69 (I was one of the first ones to get one) started having driver issues, when lows would hit the driver would rattle. I exchanged it for a new one 2 years later, right before the warranty was over and to say the least, it didn't have any driver issues. However, the build quality of the headphone itself has gone down considerably. Pads are now faded black, the headband support where the strings reside, which act as an additional support that adjust depending on your head size, have deteriorated a lot that it's function is no longer how it was from the beginning, headband pleather already wearing out and plastic feels like it creaks more than before.....all of this while trying to baby it as much as possible and not using it very often.... With that said, DROP does offer some good deals for a cheap price, especially when it comes to headphones but just remember that a lot of these products are made in or around China with better standards than usual but still fall short of their original origin of fabrication and assembly. You get what you pay for.
im buying the dt 990 but i have a problem will my mic pick up the sound leakage? or is the sound leakage too loud on medium volume.
It just Dropped on the 6th for preorder. Only reviewers have gotten them. Are you talking about the PCx 37? I hope you’re not falsely trashing a new product that people haven’t even received.
Hi there. Would you recommend this as an upgrade for the gameZero as far as microphone quality? I have it to plugged to GoXLR now and the GameZero already sounds very good.
my astros a40 broke, should i get this new PC38x or get new pair of astros? very nice video!
Dmitry, you mad man: playing Hades with a mouse and keyboard 😂
Personally irl the yellow it gives me cyberpunk vibe, dunno personally i think its cool😕
Hey dimitri, in the PC 373D video you complained that the headset mic had some compression that made the sound nasaly, and you preferred the G4me one 3.5mm head set. The PC 38X seems to have the same compressed sound and tbh the mic does not sound very good at all compared to the G4ME ONE IMO. Any thought?
Really hoped you'd compare them to the origional Game One as well, but thanks for the video!
Game ones are literally the pc37x
At first I thought it's a Cyberpunk Themed Headphones 😂
these headphones plus the cyberpunk razer ultimate omg
The yellow color fits perfectly with absolutely nothing in my gaming setup 🙈🤬
time to change your RGB color, or be a man and don't care about something not on a monitor
@@tockar Nope. Like the great Deion Sanders once said. "Well you look good, You feel good, and when feel good you'll play good. That yellow is f*cking stupid. Automatic dealbreaker. Just make it all black and give the yellow as an option.
Get 37X then
I'm in the market for a new headset because my current Sennheiser gsp 302 mic stopped working. After trying to resolder the mic jack, I've determined the issue to be (i think) in the flip-up mute feature. So I'm pretty skeptical about buying another headset with this feature again, especially after seeing my problem repeated in the reviews on amazon.
I've been using the Sennheiser Game Zero for a year now and looking to possibly upgrade to the 38x. I play a LOT of FPS games and need crisp mids-to-highs. Would I be better of with the 37x or 38x? Also do both work well without a DAC/Amp combo? I'd rather not invest in one right now and an integrated mic is my preference otherwise I'd probably go all out and get something from Beyerdynamic.
Logitech lookin like a $129 toy lmao. 😂
Plug the 3.5mm into your phone 😂 Is this not 2020, where jobs are almost as difficult to find as phones with 3.5mm jack's.
I just ordered mine. Nice to see a video promoting something I could actually buy.
how are they?
@@solo1v891 They are excellent. I use them on my PC and plugged into the controllers on console. Best headset I've used.
@@AG-bp3ll that awsome to hear! im glad your enjoying i considering upgrading to these from my logitech g432
ffs.. I just ordered my PC37x's.. make up your damn mind about your recommendations..
New shit comes out sometimes....I’m sure he wasn’t specifically waiting for you to order one before he uploaded this video.
@@darkstar1980 You clearly didnt understand what I ment. It's nothing against the channel itself but out of frustration over that I just recently ordered my pair of Pc37X's. I (sadly) dont live in America and the wait is long, I made my choice with care and this headset got the best recommendations overall. Had I waited just one more week I would have ordered the new ones instead. I hope this makes my comment more clear to you..
Ragnar SwE still isn't his fault lol
@@Ragnarswe Is it good?
I was looking into getting a open back and was gonna get the game one but guess I should get this instead? The game on is actually 20 to 30 pounds more expensive so yeah deffo gonna be getting this instead, thanks for the video.
How do you like these compared to your hd58x's on games that don't require you to use the mic?
Would you recommend updating from PC 363D to these? (really major concenr is about the base quality in music and don't want too much descant in too.. )
Wish there were more colour options. I'm not a big fan of barf coloured gear. Who thought that would be a good idea???? But from a sound perspective they are probably awesome.
I've bought the PC38X but unfortunately the microphone is extremely quiet. Apparently it has to do with my mainboard only putting out 3 volts. I've bought an external soundcard that has an output of about 4.5 volts and it increased the volume but now there is a weird peeping noise in recordings. You got any idea on how to solve this issue? Greetings from germany