Superflat Is More Interesting Than You Think...

8:33 Thanks for actually showing off my minimal Flat World! To answer the question of "where did the water come from?!" Inside the house is my cauldron; it used to be my farm above my little hole in the ground, but I didn't have an iron pickaxe to move it, so there it stays.

if you are on Java edition, it is actually possible to make progression without structures or a bonus chest. However, it's absurdly difficult. 1) Create a superflat world with a Taiga biome 2) Find a fox holding an emerald in its mouth 3) Kill the fox for the emerald 4) Repeat steps 2-3 until you have 5 emeralds 5) Wait until a Wandering Trader spawns, selling a sapling 6) Buy the sapling, and now you can begin progression. All of this can be done in the short time of... hundred hours or so? It's absurd, but it's possible.

As someone who started a flat world after Toycat did, I absolutely suggest you all do the same. It's such a blast!

The flat world is definitely a whole different challenge. I just wish the wandering trader would sell me a bucket of lava. I would be able to use stone to build my mountain instead of grey wool. 😅

Notch drops an apple when he dies in a multiplayer game, at least he used to, so it might actually be possible to play a superflat world totally from scratch if you can get hiim to log on.

As someone who has started a flat world before toycat, I highly recommend this. He has surpassed me and now I get to learn from him.

technically the golden apple part of the no-bonus chest part is impossible because there is no crafting table

The real difficulty is in turning off natural regen. I enjoy hardcore with natural regen turned off. A 4 block fall may mean your death two hours later. Golde apples are key, then getting to the nether and getting enough resources for healing potions. It's really frustrating and fun.

I gave myself a goal of making a villager house out of every type of overworld wood, and currently it’s going great. But I forgot to make my world on the 1.19 settings, so I have to wait before I get mangrove wood ._.

I have to admit, my favorite part of toycat’s super-flat survival series is laughing when everything goes wrong. Don’t know if I should feel bad about that.

The flat world challenge is so difficult but somehow so addictive… I’ve never killed so many zombies with only a wooden sword and leather armor lol. Struggling to find the willpower to convert a villager 😵‍💫

Ay. I always love seeing you vist other people’s realms haha. Its cool to see how you combined realm review this time with what you are currently doing due to how many people decided to follow in your footsteps for this challenge

Toycat do you think you would play flat survival if it had structures like superflat or at least play it as often since it has less struggle? Also if it weren't for you I wouldn''t have been convinced to stay committed to my world of almost 1 year, it's my first world where I have truly been committed so thank you.

Tried but you really need alot of patience to do this. The mob drop process is absolutely draining. I really respect anyone who does this because this is a major commitment.

I too started my superflat after watching toycats 100 days video with a buddy of mine while we wait for 1.19, and we've both been having a blast! I did make a few adjustments - after world creation, loaded into toolbox, changed bottom layer to deepslate (so yes we could have stone tools but still a challenge with increased mine time) and we setup milestones for advancements. After getting our first pair of villagers, spawned in a lava source. After getting full beacon we'll make an end portal.

I fell behind watching the streams but best believe I'm gaining on you Andrew, huffing and puffing my way through that playlist 👌😁

Honestly this feels like a different Skyblock experience

Now I gotta do it since I’ve been craving hardcore on bedrock for so long 😩 you always make it seem interesting!

Wow Toycat! This sure was informative. Thank you for making it!

3:29 You can make a composter when you have enough wood. I'm also planning to do a superflat survival, but I'm going to give myself some advantages present on java, in particular by building a village with all the types of villagers so that I can access certain resources.

Love the videos!! Super interesting. Keep it up 😊❤️

Toycat:"Minecraft is not playable without at least a single sapling" Me, who was playing his ultra hard survival: scorched map, really fun btw, and lost the two saplings you are supplied with into the fire and yet I'm still doing decently: I'm four parallel universes ahead of you.

5:35 there are torches right there Toycat! But I don't blame you for not noticing and going on to continue about the point of there not being light.

This is such a fun challenge and I can't wait to expand my world more!!!

Java has no flat world defined type. Superflat is 1 bedrock layer, 2 dirt, and one grass. However, Java Bonus Chests NEVER have saplings. I've read that in wiki's, and have tried starting about a dozen times without ever getting saplings. So this challenge, as you define it, is not do-able in Java. Someone suggested that I could get saplings from wandering traders. However, no way to access emeralds UNLESS I set the biome type to something which allows foxes. And that requires fiddling with presets. So, setting this up isn't as easy in Java as it is in Bedrock.

If you do start a Superflat world and would like me to see it for a future video, open a realm, put Superflat in the title and invite "toycat" :)

I’ve also done this challenge, I think I’ve put in about 500 hours so far. I have max diamond tools and even two pieces of diamond armour (chestplate and leggings) after killing over 50000 skeletons and zombies. I’ve also made a full emerald beacon (without the beacon obviously). I’ve spawn proofed a 200x200 area with path blocks, however I’m also working on a large area of pixel art using wool and blocks with glass of top to spawn proof, I’ve made a a 48 chunk ocean as part of my spawn proofing efforts and I’m even in the middle of building a mountain with grey wool instead of stone. So yeah, great challenge, would recommend 👍

I miss the Old World Type as I had a world very similar to these Flat worlds, it’s way more interesting imo to have a world you can fully explore and build on… infinite just has never been my kind of thing

The bonus chest isn't entirely a necessity as in bedrock edition, pillager patrols can spawn with Vindicators. Vindicators have a 65%--80% chance (depending on difficulty) to drop emeralds. Then all you have to do is wait for a wandering trader to spawn and hey presto, that's hours of your life you can never get back. This information could be wrong as Vindicators have been added and removed from pillager patrols a couple of times so dont quote me on this.

2:31 You don't need the Bonus Chest any longer😉 Let a Wandering Trader drop its Milk Bucket. Sell that Milk Bucket to another Wandering Trader for 2 Emeralds. Buy Moss and Brown Mushroom from another Wandering Trader for 1 Emerald each. Bonemeal Moss for an Azalea Tree. Grow Brown Mushrooms on the Bedrock. Craft Fermented Spider Eye and sell it to another Wandering Trader for 1 Emerald. Buy a Bucket of Fish from another Wandering Trader. Next time, you can sell all the items. The Bucket drops, as Bucket of Water or Bucket of Milk, for 2 Emeralds. The Fermented Spider Eye, a Hay Bale or a Bottle of Water for 1 Emerald. Oak Sapling is still 5 Emeralds, but you waiting for the Lightning Strike anyway.

can we apreciate how he fished out an efficiency 3 enchanted book

Can’t wait for the next 100 days of your super flat survival! 😄because it’s hard to watch the next stream when you missed the last one and they’re too long to watch :(

I both watched you and DanRobzProbz on bedrock flat survival and they're really interesting If only bedrock had structures like java, beating the game in a flat world would've been possible.

>"this entire challenge isn't possible without a bonus chest" Just fly to Notch's mansion, kidnap him, make him join your minecraft game, kill him (in Minecraft of course) and he'll drop an apple. Way easier than toggling the bonus chest.

I just like watching you play. You make it fun

I wasn't able to submit my world for a review but I did enjoy making and playing on a Superflat world. I also highly encourage everyone to at least try superflat just once (and hopefully getting you hooked as well).

after watching ur video about it, I have started a multiplayer flatworld survival on my own. One starter chest and a random sapling. Very interesting how that's playing out... First time ever that I'm proud of a dirt hut with a slime roof.

Definitely makes me want to try this out...

I ended up being a bit inspired to try it out myself, and I got jungle saplings. Needless to say, I've built a treehouse.

I have been inspired, thank you ibx and random peoples worlds.

I think might start one of these playthroughs sometime, ill probably do it with structures on though just so I can get villagers and emeralds

If you get enough villagers in one area you can trick the game into thinking that area is a village and if you get badomen you can do a raid

If you play on Java edition it's very easy to write some custom recipes to fill some of the gaps in superflat or vanilla skyblock/stoneblock or other similar challenge wordgens. For example I made lava craftable by using a blast furnace on stone to make magma blocks, then combining some magma blocks with an empty bucket to make a bucket of lava. It only requires simple JSON and there are even tools out there that will generate them for you if that scares you.

ToyCat: You're not gonna be getting torches for a long time coming. Charcoal: I'm standing right here.

I feel like if you don't get an oak or dark oak sapling from the bonus chest, you can't actually get very far coz you can't get apples, can't get villagers and can't get emeralds to get more types of saplings from the wandering trader. I was just thinking if it would be possible to progress in Superflat without a bonus chest, with the recent 1.20 update where bamboo can be turned into planks, if one were to fish in a jungle biome, but then I not only realized that there might not be any different biomes (grass wise) in superflat, but also in order to fish things up, you need a Crafting Table, and no mobs drop saplings, logs or planks (as far as I know anyway), so yeah, without a bonus chest, Superflat Survival is practically impossible. But even WITH the bonus chest, you're kinda screwed if you don't get oak or dark oak as your first sapling(s) because of the apples needed to cure villagers. So if you find anything in the chest but oak or dark oak saplings, you basically have to restart the world, which is kinda sad, but at least it would be at the very beginning and not late into the run and ruin all the progress you made thus far. Oak is a bit meh, but it is the best tree for superflat, it seems, since dark oak is too expensive with saplings, and I did in fact once on Skyblock chop down a whole Dark Oak tree and didn't get a SINGLE sapling... fortunately I'm growing 2 of each tree at the same time, and the second tree granted me 8 saplings, thus making up for the first one not having any. Also on Skyblock, I came up with a very simple but pretty effective and safe mob house design that works well for all mobs except witches, which I did by making a block house completely dark, then the entrance has a trapdoor (jungle preferably as it can be seen through and relatively well too) at the top, and then I made a small tunnel going to the left or right of the entrance on the outside, so the room is as dark as possible. Inside the tunnel, I placed down carpets so mobs can't spawn in there, and I also placed a carpet right below the trapdoor, and as such, no mobs can get to me, even if the trapdoor is open, in the latter case except for baby zombies, but when the trapdoor is closed, baby zombies can't get through because of the carpet. Baby zombies can only get through both closed trapdoor and carpet if they're riding a chicken (that was an amusing sight, and also where is the logic in that?). Furthermore, while the trapdoor is closed, mobs can't see me, so if a Creeper gets to the entrance, they won't blow up even if aggroed, and Skeletons can't shoot arrows at me. Zombies can still hit me, but I simply have to step back a block or two from the entrance and I can still hit the Zombie. Same with Endermen (I made the room 3 blocks tall so Endermen can spawn as well). Also Spiders can't get through because the entrance is 1 block wide, and though they can crawl above the entrance, if I open the trapdoor, I can hit them from below and step back to avoid hits, but often they will simply stay in place somewhere at the ceiling and won't attack me even if I hit them and that makes for an easy kill. The only weakness with my initial design was that I couldn't see if there were mobs in the corners right beside the entrance, but I solved that by simply filling in those corners with blocks, so the room has a somewhat horizontal cone-shape, and thus I can always see if something is in there and not get surprised by a Creeper hiding in the corners. Like I said though, the only mob the house doesn't counter is the witch, she just keeps healing herself when I knock her back, so I am forced to go in there and fight her manually, at which the witch (hehe) will throw a potion of poison at me which is rather annoying, but as far as I have experienced, witches don't seem completely capable of actually killing you, but simply weaken you? So not a huge deal, but still an annoyance, and I don't know if there is a way to counter witches with my mob house that doesn't require me going in there and get poisoned. I started with just one house, which seldomly spawned anything, but when I then made four more, having 5 in total, they spawn almost all the time, sometimes just one mob, sometimes it's almost full house with creeper, skeleton, zombie and spider, sometimes in addition to Endermen. I also decided to keep 3 Endermen alive and let them roam my island, naming them Kenny, Levi and Mikasa, coz I like Endermen, they're kinda cute and cool and I relate to their aversion to eye contact but otherwise being pretty chill. Had them for a few days now, close to if not a whole week now. It's fun. :)

Skyblock is something I play on Java edition. Starting from scratch and creating your own terrain is definitely a different and fun way to play the game.

Toycat just made minecraft history

Ive done superflat challenges in java before. Super fun. Different challenge to this but still a fun challenge. I enjoy it as a sort of nomadic challenge

If you aren't using a bonus chest, what about collecting emeralds from the Illager patrols, then trading for saplings? Also, I bet someone (maybe even me if enough people want it) could make a modpack that adds more trades to wandering traders, allowing more progression (they would have a high cost in emeralds or other resources to ensure they don't change progression), such as lava buckets, end portal frames, etc.

FYI you can't get saplings in the bonus chest on Java but you can get apples and wood. This makes structureless superflat survival even more of a challenge, as you need to get villagers before you can get more wood. Also - you wouldn't be able to make a crafting table even on Bedrock without the bonus chest, so even if you somehow got an apple after killing enough Zombified Piglins you wouldn't be able to convert a zombie villager

I actually started a flat survival world after i saw DanRobzProbz do it like a year ago, and honestly it's the most fun I've had playing Minecraft in years. It's grindy as hell but honestly it just makes the progress so much more gratifying

I may be inspired to give it a try. Now my thought is to immediately dig down and become a trap-door spider. Whatever falls in I get their loot. And then store it all in the chest accessible from the bottom. Of course, plant a tree up there, and a crop. I'm also wondering about making a checker-board of holes above me, or a waffle pattern. I know slime can't get down, nor spiders.

Mogswamp had played for over 10 years on superflat (java)

ibxtoycat, running by some torches: there is no torches for a very long time

So if I want to do this on Java sense there is no sapling in the starter chest could I just go in creative and put one in?

I"m proud I've been along for this journey

This video has inspired me to start a superflat survival world but I'll be attempting it with a twist; I'm going to be using an Old-sized world!

A lot of hope is required

Bonus chests can be modded. There are survival friendly addons for this.

Your literal came out while I was playing my super flat world.

you can do the same on java if you make a superflat world and turn off structures

Java bonus chests don’t give saplings at all so this challenge is hardly possible with structures turned off (you technically only need a crafting table for the golden apple and the cauldron and bucket but wood makes it soooooo much easier)

Gotta agree about the building up of an existing world rather than continuously changing daily or whatever. Where's the fun in not building up, and keeping a world?

I like how the shovel broke on the final dirt block

Toycat playing on the Flatworld more than he does the Let's Play

even jeb said that superflat is mainly for creative building but he said that it would be a fun challenge playing in in survival

This is a thing I'll do eventually in the future, for now I'm trying to get all the xbox achievements of Minecraft, after I get them all, I think I'll do this challenge, or maybe I'll start to use mods and add-ons... I'll see it later

In one. 16 there is two new Java dish swing world types added cave worlds and floating islands of which they’re pretty self-explainable of which they were all single biome worlds but I still made a cave world very fun sadly they were removed in 1.17 so the train generations pretty wonky

Now I wanna do this, this sounds super fun.

A channel called "Jokeypokey" made a more extreme version of this challenge with his video "How to play through most of Minecraft from one grass block", got about as far as toycat did

I'm definitely going to try this! Just one note: Why can't you go to the Nether? If you can get the obsidian from blacksmiths (If you're willing to play with versions) you can also get lava or even flint via trades. It's possible just extremely hard. The ability to switch around versions in Java is really nice. (Just pointing out a bonus to Java edition cause it's what I prefer as I have played a lot of both)

I actually have my own and yours inspures mine SOO much.

I really really wish it was possible to alter terrain generation. (I want a full desert//badlands world, with potentially all the ocean types)

it's pretty cool that all the path can be imagined as regular savannah grass on the same world as the acacia saplings

Flat/Super Flat is the best Skyblock alternative for claustrophobics. All the struggle of limited resources, none of the constraints of limited space.

Do flat worlds have lakes and ponds? Also, if you do have villages enabled, you can find lava at the blacksmith buildings. With this, you could get to the Nether, but what about End? How does the Nether and End generate on such worlds.

Its totally possible without a bonus chest you could just create the world in 1.14. where vindicators spawn in patrols. Then you kill the them for emeralds swap to the newest version of minecraft and trade for moss with wandering trader (for 1 emerald) bonemeal it so you get azalea then you bonemeal the azalea for azaleatrees. This is all done in an normal no structure flat world without any changes like the fox for emerald strat.

youve inspired me to make a superflat world

They should put a option where you start at the nether, in that option the world spawn would be there so if you die without a bed you go back there, the only thing i think they should do is put iron ore in bastions or basalt delta

You can't get sapplings from java bonus chest.

You don’t need bonus chests in the JE, because structures generate.

When I started my own flat I also started making an addon that increases chances of getting things (like iron) but I've given up on the addon

I love your vidoes

I really like how the updates have been very useful editions for this type of challenge especialllyyyy the lightning rods I was like HOW GOLD but now I know 🤭 XD

when will be the next episode of your flat world survival gonna be?

Thanks a lot ibxtoycat. Now I need to hook up my ps3 and play superflat survival.

When you started in the pig pit I thought it was my world for a sec cause I’m doing a flat survival world and it looks really similar. 😂

I am not sure I would have the patience for a flat world survival, and I still have projects I'm working on in my survival world, or want to do. So I'm ok for now.

Thank you Toycat I'm gonna do this on my phone.

Ive got a small question, how do you enable structures on bedrock? I've been playing on survival flat worlds for some time and I'm quite confused on how

I've been trying it too in mobile beta 1.19 (the only version with advanced tab in world creation) but it's way harder for someone who isn't as skilled playing as you lol I just barely got water but villages? I don't even know how long it will take for me

Stone sword on thumbnail looks cursed. Also 3:23 you can't get a crafting table for the gapple w/o Bonus chest

This is why I lloovve superflat worlds, because you can create whatever you want on a super flat world, even on creative!

i created my superflat world before toycat did wondering how easy hen i quit cause i thought it was impossible but then when toycat started making these i started playing again because then i realized how i could get those items i needed

I might start a superflat world with some friends, it would be boring alone to me.

I’ve Been wanting to for ages but I haven’t brought myself to doing it yet I think it will be fun but I’ll need to put in lots of time and effort. It would be fun though

I started a superflat world myself. Currently I have 5 Iron(halfway to water), but I allowed myself to give myself a lava bucket and 12 end portal frames when I get a villager. That way you can beat the game and you can't abuse the lava early game. Also to get to the nether I still need dripstones from a trader to make a lavafarm. But this makes the progression better in my oppinon.

I mean, how would you get the crafting table in the first place if you didn't use the bonus chest for the sapling?

I hope Bedrock eventually gets full-on Superflat like Java.

i’m so sad the fall of minecraft hit your channel. you were someone that was a go to for anything i needed for minecraft