I'm just tired || Hugo 2023 Drama Part 2

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  • I know you didn't want to make this video, but I am still thankful that you did. Especially your explanation of the math stuff. Your videos have really helped me understand what the heck is happening.

    @eliseelliot@eliseelliotАй бұрын
    • I am glad it was helpful! I just truly felt redundant since I have been so in the weeds of it all but it was nice getting my frustrations off my chest

      @LiteratureScienceAlliance@LiteratureScienceAllianceАй бұрын
  • Dude, these are the villains in every SFF…YES! That was my reaction exactly! They’ve read way too many dystopian SFF that their framework for what is normal acceptable behavior is terminally warped.

    @LaughingStockfarm1@LaughingStockfarm1Ай бұрын
  • Honestly I'm still in shock at the sheer moral bankruptcy of the Chengdu WorldCon administrators. I have some empathy for the social pressures that could theoretically push someone to go along with it (if the suggestion of government pressures are even credible). But it's truly so galling to read through these emails and seeing so many people fail the SFF community.

    @booksvsmovies@booksvsmoviesАй бұрын
  • “Nepal is not Tibet. That’s just how geography works.” 😂😂😂 Also, Dave sounds like a Narcissist.

    @marisagettas@marisagettasАй бұрын
    • Pretty sure he is lol

      @LiteratureScienceAlliance@LiteratureScienceAllianceАй бұрын
  • Damn. Dave really did take extra steps to be a gatekeeper. Is that... dedication? 😖

    @dwdillydally@dwdillydallyАй бұрын
    • Like I could think of SO many solutions to make Hugos more inclusive that are not "disfranchise voters and also make dossiers of the western works we are considering"

      @LiteratureScienceAlliance@LiteratureScienceAllianceАй бұрын
  • Im so glad this finally got outed and resolved. It's just wild how they thought they might have gotten away with it. But Im glad Glasgow are doing it much more openly, and I like that they keep us updated on what's happening. 🗺

    @bentheoverlord@bentheoverlordАй бұрын
  • 🌍 Thanks making the video. Did not know about the Hugos before this 😊

    @afriendinsweden@afriendinswedenАй бұрын
  • I totally appreciated this video. I haven't been keeping up with any of it, so your video solved the mystery for me. Thanks!

    @scubacat22@scubacat22Ай бұрын
  • Now we've learned what was always true; We shouldn't choose what to read on the basis of the Hugo awards.

    @HankyUSA@HankyUSAАй бұрын
  • Just wanted to say thanks for doing this video - I’ve dropped off a lot from the Booktube community and so a lot of this news passes me by these days and it was great to have a good summary of it. Not going to lie, it makes me a lot less excited about going to my first Worldcon this year

    @gorram@gorramАй бұрын
  • I enjoyed the math explanation of this. Such a frustrating Hugo to follow through the madness. Hopefully next year will be better.

    @lauras9071@lauras9071Ай бұрын
  • I am so sorry I feel asleep during this time as Dave is a I--t and I agree with you ❤❤❤

    @JohnSaxon-vw5vi@JohnSaxon-vw5viАй бұрын
  • Thanks for going over the math they have been using! Glad you made this video. Sending hugs your way.

    @amotleyartwkatherine@amotleyartwkatherineАй бұрын
  • Not gonna lie, I am kinda eating up all the drama, tragic as it is lol. Thanks for making this video, even though you weren't extremely excited to do it. Appreciate you a lot 🥰

    @esmayrosalyne@esmayrosalyneАй бұрын
  • Wow! That is crazy! Thanks for the great video explaining this. 😊

    @Mymojogirl@MymojogirlАй бұрын
  • I think I read that Dave has now got the boot, which is something (the bare minimum) i suppose! 🗺

    @lauratolhurst3443@lauratolhurst3443Ай бұрын
    • Technically he could still get the job again if a future world con wants him, just really hope nobody ever trusts him again

      @LiteratureScienceAlliance@LiteratureScienceAllianceАй бұрын
    • ​@LiteratureScienceAlliance and that thankfully is never going to happen but then again we live in the garbage timeline.

      @yesterday1396@yesterday1396Ай бұрын
  • 🌏 how does it keep getting worse with every new thing that's uncovered?? absolutely BIZARRE. kudos to you for making these videos & explaining everything in such a digestible way!

    @Octobig@OctobigАй бұрын
  • 🌎🌍🌏Thanks for making part 2! This helped in clarifying the timeline and math in the voting. Hoping for Hugo 2024 to be a better time (with more cool results)

    @CityGirlWriter@CityGirlWriterАй бұрын
  • Thanks for putting this video together. I appreciate your take on this whole mess.

    @SarahAsYouWish@SarahAsYouWishАй бұрын
  • What a mess! Thanks for putting this info together

    @FullyBookedMelissa@FullyBookedMelissaАй бұрын
    • Glad it was helpful!

      @LiteratureScienceAlliance@LiteratureScienceAllianceАй бұрын
  • What a mess! 😢 Can’t wait for Glasgow, though. It will be my first Worldcon❤

    @isam.2653@isam.2653Ай бұрын
  • good grief....this whole thing has just been a mess

    @RodgersReads@RodgersReadsАй бұрын
  • Geez. What a mess. I nominated this year since I had nomination rights, but I'm not really sure if I'll get membership and vote. Maybe if the shortlist is a little less uninspiring...

    @ThatsSoPoe@ThatsSoPoeАй бұрын
    • Yea I am very dependent on the short list, but 2023 was a very lackluster reading year for me so not sure any list would excite me if I'm honest lol but if I end up going to glasgow for world con I will for sure vote!

      @LiteratureScienceAlliance@LiteratureScienceAllianceАй бұрын
  • 🌏Very interesting! I am very glad to hear more about what the scandal really was. Thank you for doing this even though you didn't really want to - it was very helpful.

    @MLLatUtube@MLLatUtubeАй бұрын
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    @BriMiKie@BriMiKieАй бұрын
  • 🗺 globe doesn't really seem to highlight the flatness of the world on which we all exist in the bigger scheme of things! It can isolate some land in focus while hiding that other side matters as much...just a random thought as i was confused selecting between three different world 🌎 emojis lmao ...(and ofc autocorrect has the western recommendation 🙄😅) ps: i love the west too just not that much Dave seems like the guy who would make sure to keep people in power pleased without even daring to challenge basic awareness in order to hold on to the position he clearly does not belong at!! I can bet good money...this is his most effective way of climbing the corporate/social ladder...he is very much one of those types! And its giving "white mediocrity" in droves! Just saying...🤔👉👈 Your side of analysis is very important and tbh, i was waiting on it since you are the one who really got me interested in hugos, and I agree with all your pointers! Hope other literary awards learn from this moving forward 💙🤗💙🌍🌎🌏💙🤗💙

    @ghanshyamsingh3653@ghanshyamsingh3653Ай бұрын
    • This reminded me of when I first realized that I could turn the map upside down and it was just as accurate (thank you West Wing lol)

      @LiteratureScienceAlliance@LiteratureScienceAllianceАй бұрын
  • I knew the HUGOs would prove a problem or challenge in China, expecting mostly legitimate according to The HUGO Rules, Chinese nominations in the Literature Nominations, but I was annoyed at how impossible I found it to try and get membership for the worldcon in China, as the Washington Wordlcon was in December when China won the bid and I couldn't attend, and they wouldn't let you join the following year at Worldcon, and their Website was impenetrable.

    @rodoh22@rodoh22Ай бұрын
    • Yea I didn't even try. I used my Chicago con membership to nominate and after the short list just decided to observe this year, and really glad I did in hindsight

      @LiteratureScienceAlliance@LiteratureScienceAllianceАй бұрын
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  • You're absolute right about them being the villains of the sci-fi they are fans of. And it's true whether they read conservative old-school sci-fi, or modern "woke" sci-fi. What they did is universally reviled. 🦹‍♂🌏

    @AccipiterF1@AccipiterF1Ай бұрын
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  • Come on, Dave.

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