Write Your Life And Become A Better Storyteller - Mark W Travis [FULL INTERVIEW]
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""If you had no fear, what story would you tell?" , best quote so far.
Honestly. I expected her to tell of one of her own but she expressed she understands and has something in mind but still had the fear to not share it.
@@Respect2theFallenbut she may not want to share it , and save it for a book
You want to know every story, but people have privacy for a reason.
This is one of the channels that gave me the courage to start my KZhead channel 9 months ago about self development. Now I have 1,730 subs and > 1k hours of watch time. I know it’s not comparable with others but I’m still proud I started because I’ve been learning so many lessons that I could haven’t learned without getting started in the 1st place.
i am a survivor of sexual abuse and was told from childhood to" shut up no one will believe you they will think you are twisted " and for 40 years i was so manipulated by my mothers fear, that i led a very destructive life , until one day i sat down at the computer and, instead of playing games, and deliberately wasting my time , i began to write my story , i used to sit cringing in my chair as my mothers voice dominated my script , i have never been more vulrable or exposed but , i have never felt more free from the hold she had over me , thank thank you i listened to this interview with tears in my eyes , Mark you are an inspiration .
Thank you for telling this story, Loretta.
@@pmcguinness3041 thank you
Bless you!
@@bugfeet73 Thank you , its an emotional Sunday i had a late night and you made my day .
wish you luck on this i wonder about writing a selfbioghraphical opera still, let see
we dont like to be manipulated but we like to be surprised
I write daily in the hopes something comes to bear fruit one day. At the minimum my son will know when he's of age his father was literate and that's something to be proud of.
John teller
That’s a gift for him.
To give an Update. I have been signed to Enorama International Talent Agency and have a film, book, and more to coming out. It's been a crazy year. I would say to anyone inspired by this post. Keep writing! Someone will notice!!
@@TEEANVEE Totally
May the universe 4:32 bestow more upon you
What he’s saying is true. Once you start telling your story, you’ll gain more confidence to tell it more. I started out with my short film, to a book, a podcast, and now finally a full feature film. Currently working on the script now.
I need guidance for script writing, any one can volunteer 😊
Did You Finish The Script?
I was raised by alcoholism. My mom was a drug dealer , an alcoholic and promiscuous. As the middle daughter , I was eclipsed by the Superior Elder daughter and my Mothers Baby. I’m a comic because I was so invisible, I had to do something. I pretended I was happy. I’m an introvert but I impersonate a flamboyant, care free soul. I tell stories of stories and I reveal NOTHING.😢 I love this man. I’m healing through this interview. Scared
Wow! This is deep! Did you ever write your story? We should connect. I don't know if I could ever brief my life story, but I could try; I feel like we have a lot of things in common based on what we've been through.
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Karen, by far, is one of the most skilled and intentional interviewers, a Gem. Love her style, tone, and delivery.
She is Magical!!!
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This guy is absolutely brilliant. He certainly know how to clearly explain things.
The role playing about Jack and Jill was brilliant. It almost feels like she's sharing a real-life story and not working on a story. I half expected her to burst out weeping. Amazing exchange.
It's alot of people's story too sadly. I'm not parasitic in those aspects. But occasional drink part and unsure of marriage was relatable. Idk how people get with people with no jobs though that is breeding grounds for destruction and doesn't allow a family to grow in no way.
I bet she got divorced after this video. lol
I agree, and it took a lot of courage to open up, even though it was a made up story. I am amazed at his ability to get to the meat of her "why she stays with him". Dang, this was great work. And I've watched it more than once.
The character interrogation of gill was incredible. How he helped her to clarify where she wanted to be in life, how to get there, and what it would cost. It felt like therapy.
I really enjoyed this part and I also thought it was somehow like therapy (and I was wondering the whole time: what's happening there? - not a real question). Yet to me it was "strange" because it seemed like an 'obvious' activity to perform when writing as well as indeed the 'choices' and reasons of the character are 'chosen' by the author (even if it's best done when 'being as much objective, i.e. out of 'self' while doing this exercise...yet how objective can one be?)....I believe this comment is not really clear but anyway ...( and haha he said it! "the Jill that exists inside you") Besides this, indeed, if this work didn't occur to people attempting to write before watching this video, as it's said: "if you don't know, now you know" :-) I'm sure it will help a lot.
Powerful
I had a film studies professor 30 years ago that changed my life. I haven’t felt that same way listening to someone speak about film until right now!
That interrogation was so real I was actually in an emotional rollercoaster watching it. At times I wanted to punch the interrogator, and, at others, I wanted to punch Jill.
Mark, I'm sure, has explored his own demons, fears, insecurities, past mistakes, defects, shortcomings, etc. I have as well. I can say from experience that it certainly brought up a good deal of shame, guilt, remorse, anger, resentment, and self-hatred. These are things that made it quite difficult for me to be real, authentic, and genuine. The real me was deeply hidden by my EGO. I should've won hundreds of OSCARS over the years for my acting. I'm glad I had a good therapist and the 12 Step rooms over the years. I believe I may be ready now to write my life, and become a storyteller. Thank you Mark Travis! Bill R.
This guy is great, I studied acting for 18 years. Also took writing classes at UCLA. Just directed my first short and it was so easy working with the actors!
Congrats on your first short Rico!
@@filmcourage thanks alot, appreciate it!!
@@filmcourage thanks alot!
Congratulations!
Congrats 😊
Min 02:50-10:00 Why this story? Min 19:00 Min 25:00 Min 29:00 Who isn't a storyteller? Min 32:00 If there was no fear, what story would you tell? Min 34:00-38:00 "Chipper", tragic Shane McCabe story... Finding the courage to tell the story you've never told anyone else... Min 39:00-45:00 Understanding you... Min 46:00-50:00 Too many or too few details... Min 50:00-53:00 Min 58:00
Mark W Travis - I've just spent the last 8 hours with this video and what a profound 8 hours this has been. Thirteen pages of typed notes: the insights and techniques you've given me are beyond MY EXPECTATIONS.
Can you please share your notes?
i got 18 pages!!! But yeah! Amazing.
@@ala4fadeel condensing them into a couple of sentences, I'd say this: events are interesting, but finding the meaning and significance is what the reader will find more valuable. Writing is a sometimes painful journey, demanding you look beneath the facade and bare the warts. Finding your voice requires not reading other's stories until you've developed a solid sense of identity. Lastly, one does not so much choose to write--writing chooses you, becomes your obsession, compels you to keep going, regardless of obstacles. When you hit a roadblock, start a new document on that topic or question. You'll find the answer inside. My book just passed the hallway point. Never could have accomplished this without organizing every step of the process. Tedious, yes, but one does whatever is necessary. If this advice doesn't work for you, make your own rules. Just keep the faith, let desire grab your soul.
1:25:00 the character interrogation was so powerful!
1:25 -1:42 Marvellous role play session. Illustrates the moment of indiscretion we regret the most about and are afraid to face up to the predicament we have invited upon ourselves. Great coach and a tenacious student . Thank you
This part was intense.
Just found this channel and it's the first time in my life that I feel I have some mentors in the artistic process. Inspiring people. Thank you.
Cheers Christopher! Hope our work helps you get better at yours.
@@filmcourage No need to hope. Faithfully it is so. Cheers.
Karen is a gift to all of us. She knows what we need to know without asking us. Love to you always Karen
"Wow, this video hit me hard! It made me realize that if we want to truly captivate our audience, we have to dig deep and share the stories that scare us the most. The ones that make our hearts race and our hands tremble. Because it's in those moments of vulnerability that people can truly connect with us. I remember watching this interview, and when the interviewer asked, 'What's the story you would tell if you weren't afraid to tell it?' the silence was deafening. It was a powerful moment that made me reflect on my own fears and the stories I've been too afraid to share. But here's the thing, when we let go of that fear and embrace our truth, incredible things happen. It might be uncomfortable at first, but it's in that discomfort that we find growth and authenticity. I've experienced it myself when I started writing about my past, and suddenly all these emotions came flooding back. It was overwhelming, but it was also liberating. So, I want to encourage all of you to take a leap of faith and share your stories. Whether it's through writing, podcasting, or any other medium, let your words be a beacon of truth. And remember, it's okay to feel scared, because that's when the magic happens. If you're interested, I've shared some of my own stories on my KZhead channel and Substack. Check them out if you're ready to embark on a journey of self-discovery and fearless storytelling.
The interrogation is a brilliant concept! Would really help a writer flesh out the main character(s).
Watching this interview helped me start exploring my life story. It's a story I've been scared to write to protect those involved. However, after being reminded about the power shift that occurs after telling your story, I am more than ready to reveal my story to the rest of the world. I am deeply greatful for this information and proclaiming myself as the next best selling author in less than a year from now.
Yes! I felt the same way, and once I started writing, it’s been so therapeutic. I really don’t know what the end result will be, as the story has many real life people who may not enjoy their depictions… I may change the names, but I’ll worry about that when I’m done writing. 😁
@@dj_matanzaa Same here. Best of luck. "You're gonna make it if you try, they're gonna loooooove youuuuuu...."
@Grace Nabasabala - But surely writing is not JUST about power and power shifts! Surely, creative writing isn't a substitute for therapy. It's not about fulfilling political agendas or programs. So many 'woke' people nowadays are caught up in this insatiable thirst for power and hegemony through cultural means. But what this wise man is talking about is turning the rich material of your life into art.
@@wiseonwords I understand we all want to write for different reasons. However, I am choosing to write my story as a life lesson to someone else, not to place blame. In fact, I am writing it to my younger self.
@@dj_matanzaa I felt the same way, I am planning to use their first names because my story is based on my upbringing. I asked and received their blessing. I am trying not to tarnish their characters but express the lessons I have learned through them.
I watched a few of these videos, and I like these lessons. Karen as an interviewer is on another level and is amazing with questions and engagement. I feel like I'm there, in person, participating first hand. Magical!
a 100 likes to this quote..
THIS WAS ACTUALLY PRACTICAL AND ACTIONABLE. a lot of people talk about what you SHOULDN'T do with writing. or giving advice that is so macro and wide angle view that it is paralyzing. i actually heard things that made me want to jump into writing my script here!!!
This is one of the most interesting things of any genre I have ever seen, I was riveted start to finish.
That is quite a comment. Well we are happy this video found you Traci and provided you value. Mark is a fantastic teacher and we love that we can share his teachings with others here.
Mark reminds me greatly of Joseph Campbell, amazing interview. i found jack and jills story a bit frustrating to sit through because of the excuses she had to defend him
What a wise and beautiful man. I love the way he talks and I love the right questions," she asks. this is by far the most educational interview I have ever listened to. I am so grateful to have this opportunity to sit down and learn from Mark. Thank you for sharing this with us.
I'm loving g this interview, the silken voices wow! So much excellent information, THANKYOU! I listen at night and actually fall asleep which is the only negative! Zzzz I'm hoping the knowledge goes in even as I sleep! 🙋♀️🌻
Rarely you find a true smart person like this gentleman
Just a half way through it, but could tell without any doubt that this one of best interviews I've watched so far. Especially for those who are intended on writing biographical screenplay. Thank you.
Thanks Darshan! Mark is a terrific teacher. Great to see you finding value here.
@@filmcourage Thank you for uploading his interview. I'm a aspiring Director and writing my script as well. This is very helpful in various aspects. Thank you once again. 😊
Our best to you Darshan
The professional chemistry between these two is incredible.
Jill sounded like she needed a cigarette break at some point. Lol
This is one of the biggest questions i had to answer for myself when i embarked on my film making journey - why do i want to do it? Why do i want to make up stories? Why write them? Why shoot them? Why why why? And i kept answering it every day, kept looking for and finding answers. And if i had to give only one answer it would be this: there is no other medium, except maybe music, (which is a big part of film making anyway) that can consume and take me away so completely, like a good film can. It makes me forget the all the shit i've been through in my life, it's almost medicinal. And this is why i want to keep doing it, to help people. If you have a gift, to capture people's imagination and attention, by telling stories then by God you ought to use it, to the best of your abilities. Because you just might make a lot of people happy, or even save someones life some day. Movies are our modern folklore, someone once said. And it's true.
Whoa the second half is hitting hard right now. Awesome
Of all the people who appeared on this channel, he is my most fav. He provided most valuable suggestions... Esp the idea of interrogating your characters. I tried it and it was simply magic. Great teacher indeed, thank you sir!
"You have to serve yourself!" I missed this quip the first several times through the interview. YET. for me, this is THE critical piece of advice throughout. You have to do this process YOURSELF. No one else will do it for you. How so true this is with life.
Great to see you finding value here Daniel, thank you for supporting this channel!
@@filmcourage I cannot thank y'all enough.
This guy is a master of human mind. Definitely!
Such a brilliant mind! Thank you for giving us these gems.
Cheers!
I have never watched a 2-hour-and-46-minute video until now. I love love love how Karen asks her questions and let’s her guests speak. Love this
These interviews are so cool. Thank you for sharing Mark’s storytelling wisdom. So practical and helpful to me as a singer songwriter. I’m a storyteller in song. Peace and Love to y’all. ✌️❤️🎶
Peace and love Deb!
That thing he's talking about with coming up with an autobio backstory, off-script, is something Tarrantino builds into every screenplay and has his actors participate in.
Never take the side of the one who won't do anything for anyone. Not even him/her self.
Man this is intense. Especially the story role play about Jack and Jill.
This was quite an intense exchange between Mrs Karen and Mr Mark Intense indeed
Such a fascinating interview. I was impressed with Mark's questions concerning Karen's characters. It's hard to tell a story in a believable and impacting way without the author experiencing it firsthand. That's why it's good to write about what you know. I know more than ever now, after seeing Band of Brothers, the series depicting the true life stories of the 101st Airborne Easy Company in World War II from D-Day to V-E Day. The events were real events and characters are real people. The survivors have reunited over the years after the war because no one else can truly understand the bond of all they've been through. The payoff from watching this series was a much greater understanding of what courage truly is and the huge price that was paid. The conditions of fighting in the winter without sufficient clothing, ammunition, food or water, knowing that if your team didn't push through enemy lines, more would die than staying put. The series showed the lives that the soldiers came from before the war, their military training, then the hardships, bravery, and death during battles. I heard about the war in school 15 years after it ended and saw plenty of old newsreels. But the Band of Brothers series (and The Pacific series) gave a much better account of what it was like. After the end of the series, there were interviews of the surviving veterans depicted in the series. They had reunions and talked about their war experiences decades after the war ended because no one else could ever relate to their experiences or know their losses.
He is extremely insightful and seems like such a genuinely great guy. I love your channel, and thanks for posting!
“I am less interested in what I create than how it is created “ as an artist, that’s me too. I can relate to that. Thanks! I will use that in the story I’m writing.
I tell about my life to give voice to compassion and equity in our discombobulated world today. To offer others familiarity and to provide validation to those who may have very similar life struggles or affirm those who hold great strength, courage and conviction. Yes, it's about me, but for me it's the process of revealing and healing. Let me heal you and nurse you through my story. - Vi An
100% right about relating to the character.
Like his thinking and I also think that there's a lot of "buried" stuff that emerges when we least expect that might have a lot of power in our personal storytelling. Happened to me last night listening to an old Glenn Miller radio broadcast that made me think about my mother and her experiences in WWII and my own experience as a teen hearing an air raid siren for the first time and I wept. Now that memory haunts me. Maybe I'm Proust lol
what a fantastic interview thank you so much
When Karen became Jill, I felt that.
A Bronx tale is in my Top 10 favorite Movies of all time. I had to see who this man was that was talking about having written it.
Jack sounds like the father of my two oldest kids - only I was a bit smarter than Jill. That was an excellent exchange of dialogue.
I feel like I am in a classroom...This is a very POWERFUL interview...Thank you so much.
Great to see the whole video here. Spellbinding. Fascinating. And super clear.
Great video content. Thank you! I’ve performed original one woman shows portraying the six wives of Henry the Eighth and US President’s wives. That was years ago. I’ve never performed a one woman show about my own life. But I am finishing a memoir about my experiences as a senior caregiver in private homes. I want to tell this particular life story because it gives a voice to underrepresented and marginalized people like paid caregivers.
One of my favorite movies is "The Right Stuff" and I loved how it wasn't just about the astronauts but also included their wives in the story. While the astronauts were getting launched into space on a giant rocket which could explode in an instant the wives had to deal with the reporters camping out on their lawns and trying to get into their houses. Caregivers don't get enough credit or recognition in the world although SOME of them aren't that great. I got out of the hospital about a year ago and still needed wound dressings changed every few days but the home healthcare nurse that was supposed to show up to help with that never did show up, not even once and kept making excuses and acting like she got lost. I ended up having to figure it out on my own and my wounds were in a spot that was very difficult for me to reach without assistance. I couldn't even see my own wounds without using a mirror and would have appreciated at LEAST having someone hold a mirror while I did my own wound dressings but couldn't even get that. So I would definitely appreciate a story about someone who actually does give a sh*t about the people because for a lot of home healthcare workers it's just a job. It must be more difficult for workers who actually do care about the patients because you get attached to them and then might see them deteriorating mentally and physically, especially if it's in their own homes and you're dealing with people who have drug or alcohol problems. It must be especially difficult when the healthcare worker cares more about the client than the client cares about themselves and frustrating when they keep doing things to prevent their own healing. And what can you do in a situation like that? How do you not become desensitized and unsympathetic when you sometimes have to watch people die? And you know they're going to die if they don't change but they won't change. Doctors and surgeons have to be able to shut off that sense of empathy in order to even be able to do their jobs but the GOOD ones are able to turn it back on when it's necessary. It's an interesting parallel to everything I've learned as an actor because you have to be able to open yourself up; you have to be willing to allow yourself to be vulnerable and emotionally available WHILE on stage but then you have to learn how to close that back up and be "normal" again when you come off stage to mingle with the audience members or other actors backstage. Closing it all back up has been one of the toughest challenges for me as an actor because I can open up and be vulnerable on stage but sometimes have a hard time closing it back up after the scene. I've had days where I come off the stage and can't STOP crying because of what I was working from but over the years I've learned to do what I call "detoxing from the scene". It's taken me several years in training to learn how to detox from the scene and it's not something my teachers taught me how to do, it's something I had to figure out on my own.
This is worth exploring. I’ve done elder care, sometimes for the mother of a friend, sometimes for my father. I had no special training and you do go through a lot of emotions. I visited the man who owned the pasture where I kept my horses , had coffee together a few times a week, heard many stories from his life. When he went into a nursing home, I kept visiting, took him for walks outside in a wheelchair, brought him to singalongs, helped him with the bathroom or eating. When I arrived on the day he died, the nurses came to comfort me. They brought a chair so I could sit with him and say goodbye. They thought I was his daughter. His daughter came eventually to check his room for valuables, never even glanced at him. It must be hard for the pro caregivers. I felt so lost and sad but there was no one to talk to about it. I think you should write about your experiences.
Fiction books are the most amazing way to immerse yourself in rich storytelling. Some books can create such vivid and complex worlds that you feel like you are living in them and experiencing their political systems. Fiction books can change your life and perspective more than nonfiction books, but nonfiction books can also be valuable if they share inspiring stories that stimulate your mind and emotions. Books are a gift to humanity and a source of joy and wisdom.
Wow! Thank you for such a wonderful and on-point interview. ..lots of lessons in a short time.
This is an outstanding interview
Powerful interview. Thank you
I just found this channel and I'm excited to watch more of your videos . This video is the first I've watched and it is inspiring. I had not heard of the interrogation technique before. That was such a good dialogue between Karen and Mark. Thank you!
There is such a strange connection between these two! This interview is so different
I enjoyed hearing him talk!
This is one of the best! So much to unpack here. Thank you.
This is a very good video thank you. LOVE to all the writers out there
I love this channel! Mark is a great teacher here, especially in Extroverts and Introverts. He showed us how to the story writer sets us up, leads us, includes us, then makes us innocent bystanders within four sentences. On screen this is done to us repeatedly. It's why we watch, or change the channel. With Jack and Jill, he also showed us that Karen is actually a great story teller. This channel can make us not just better writers, but also better readers and viewers.
Even though I am a new subscriber, but I can say that this is the best channel I ever watched in general not only about movie-making, etc. You are doing a great job in a very professional way. Great content, Great guests, Great host. Keep it up! ❤❤
THanks for your work! It's fantastic!
Thank you @filmcourage for a powerful interview! I feel there is no better way to say heartfelt thank you than paying it forward with my own autobiographical selfexpression and let it inform my documentary storytelling.
Very good interview. Great work! Thanks!
that was absolutely amazing i didn't think i'll complete the all video but i really loved this man and all of what he said so informative and genius, there is actualy a lot of screen plays told in this video and great questions
This guy is brilliant, Da Vinci brilliant
Good stuff this man was dropping nuggets and the questions were great‼️ Great interview, let him speak, it flowed so smoothl‼️
Wow, the squirrel punched my heart.
JUST BRILLIANT !!! Would love to work with him for my solo-show... I could create 10 or more solo-shows based on my Life. I already did one, years ago, on my own with no guidance and my first... and I am seeing all the mistakes and all the good stuff, too. Great interview/lesson.
Wonderfully explained and interacted. This was what i needed. A different positive result to what I thought I was going to receive than when i saw the length. Thanks .
Such amazing insight 🖤
Another great one! my favorites to listen to are the 50s and above...they are so full of experience and depth!
fascinating interview
Magical content, thank you Karen !
Stumbled on this, I am but half way through and I know I am going to watch it again.
In the movie Angel Chauffeur , this Angel from heaven shows a man , James , that the benefits of having little and the troubles of having to much .
I am thinking about writing a fictional book based on my life experience, I loved watching this, because it helped me understand a little more about how to do that.
I write picture books, but I enjoy this channel, and I have a few different versions of my memoir for kids, so... here I am listening. Storytelling is still storytelling, no matter the age of your audience, so I'm open to learning from other genres, including film.
To Ms. Film Courage: i am in admiration and awe for/of your interviews (and voice :-) so warm, it is soothing by itself, same effect from your very 'cristal' laugh) To M. Mark W Travis : Thank you very much for this highly valuable sharing of your experience.
Mr. Travis is the Story Whisperer ...............................
Fascinating conversation. :-)
Amazing interview!!!!
I appreciate this insight.
Greatest interviewer. Gently asks a question and makes the interviewre spill more than their beans.if she was too sharp they might spill their guts.ehatever dhe makes them give their nuggets of indight
Wow I'm so glad I took the time to watch the full length version of this thought provoking interview. What a fantastic conversation!
Great! Thanks for watching the full conversation Nick. We hope you are able to use some of these teachings in your own work.
In the 14 min mark, on what makes a great story, personally, I've noticed that filmmakers these days have moved on from talking about ordinary people. In the days when cinema was at its highest form, filmmakers were always talking about ordinary people. You had Rocky Balboa, the underdog. You have Travis Bickle, the vigilante antihero, working as a taxi driver. Thelma and Lois, two working class women who face sexism, decide to take justice into their own hands. There are so many examples to choose from. But today, you have even the best filmmakers making movies about characters that are almost unrelatable. Wes Anderson, to start with as an example, uses characters that all come from upper-class backgrounds. P.T Anderson's last film, where he had a very relatable and ordinary person, was Punch Drunk Love. But nearly all his characters since have pretty much been very extraordinary characters about power-hungry villains or obsessive artists. I still appreciate their films. But this is just a small example of how I feel Hollywood has shifted. Most characters in movies these days are about rich people. It's only the indie films that spend time on ordinary characters rising above extraordinary circumstances.
Thank you for the comment. Punch Drunk Love is a great one. BTW, if you're looking for working class characters, a Tubi suggestion recently watched was the 2001 film 'The Jimmy Show.' At times it's depressing but shows a great deal of realism. Miss seeing indie dramas with stories like this one. I also love films which show more struggle and those tend to be arthouse cinema. I agree that mainstream film and tv show more interpersonal struggle (relationship drama, social pressure, power struggles, etc.) and less financial, making things too perfect on the outside. But there are a few gems out there. Emily The Criminal and Maid just to name a few. Thanks for watching!
I love music and like writing songs. My gramps use to tell me when I was a kid , " Always learn how to tell a good story, and make it bigger each time."
These interviews be full of heart. 🙏🏾
Thank you Jabari!
@@filmcourage quite welcome!!
So good!
What an excellent session!!! The questions are great, the exercices as well!!!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed this one!
So much insight. I am a visual artist and today I feel I have been gifted with a resource of valuable information about art, life and how things work x I am excited to explore more interviews here xxx
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At 6:00 She’s describing a very important aspect of Stand Up Comedy 👌🏾