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Levy and Leafy, the perfect cheater reviewing duo
Leafy for shur
No hes name is greg
You get my like sir that is too good
Leafy Rootzman
@@moxiaoguo4965 holy hell that is an amazing name
Huge respect to Gotham for uploading even while being held hostage
Ya
I hope his kidnapper is still letting him play Eric Rosen and Hikaru Nakumara 😂
That's called commitment 😅
1:52 and that's where you get suspicious
😂😂😂
At 2:45, you say that if the king moves, the king loses the right to castle. The king had already moved to capture the knight there and as such had already lost the castling rights.
Noticed that too and was going to comment.
Even Levy makes mistakes, first game didn’t look like cheating
me too
@BiggieCheeseGaming the top engine moves in the first game were really obvious. I’m only like 1100 and I would have played all of those moves
Give the man a chance. It is not uncommon to be very nervous when you are held hostage…
sometimes I'm scared that im gonna get banned if i accidentally make goofy moves mixed with top engine moves
Haha, I'm kinda afraid someone would accuse me of trying to cheat using Martin.
I think these kinds of cases get thoroughly inspected before shots are called and you get banned, many moves he made were clearly not human.
I made two brilliant moves in a game at 900 rapid elo and was worried I would get reported lol
@@willowandluka5302people don't always review their losses
@@willowandluka5302 keep in mind brilliant moves are scaled with elo. So what would be a brilliant move at 900 might just be a good move at 1500
I genuinely went from 400 elo to banned because of this video, thank you.
Levy is truly a real one for that
Congrats!
Weird name for a plant but ok
@@milesogden3173 what the fuck is a plant
😂🎉
Did you know that gothamchess has used more cheaters and milked them for content than there are atoms in the universe?
best teacher.
lol
Loll
He would be able to run a whole school on his own
@@tiletapper4ever He probably would in the future not gonna lie but not by himself
“All top players, like frank and Magnus and hikaru”😂😂 Levy is a genius
Frank? Top player? Bruh 😂😂😂
16:22 😂
Who the fuck is Frank?
@@gogogooner Levy's strong 500 student
Oh snap.. I love this video! I just started playing chess about a month ago so I def do dumb shit like this, but watching someone completely fall apart without their cheat crutch is amazing! And side note, as someone learning and studying, most annoying part about online chess, is when someone does make a big blunder, they immediately resign. How do you learn like that? I feel like I learn from each loss.. and I'm doing a lot of that
"How to cheat in Chess" I feel like Levy is trying to teach us how to cheat so he can get more cheaters to use for content (also name the plant Hamster 🐹)
Make sense
true
Maybe he is just asking us how to cheat
Bro, how could you fail to copy the title of the video😭
Why are you everywhere in this channel
Im not a cheater-catcher expert, but i think in the very first game once the cheater took all his opponents pieces, he thought "okay im gonna nail this from here on my own", didnt pay attention to the engine anymore, premoved to took the last pawn with the rook, and then realized he stalemated. Levi was generous with thinking he just 'didnt want to get caught'
I don’t think the first game was cheated at all. The opening had multiple mistakes and taking pieces is something any noob can do if they’re being offered up for free
Levy*
@@thefranklin6463 I agree, I think many of the things Levy picked up on were harsh, like him moving the king was quite a simple idea since he couldnt castle (he moved king earlier), and yeah just picked up a lot of free pieces
@@thefranklin6463 it definitely could but real but it was a 400 elo player usually isn’t going to demolish like that but you never know
That’s a really long name for that plant
These are so great to watch having worked my butt off trying to make it to 1300. 😂
man .. I'm a returning player at elo around 1000 and ever since i've been playing chess one of my "tricks sorta say were those checks before capturing when winning or trading a piece, now with your cheater videos, that I'm glad I found by the way , make me feel hopefull bout my chess skills by saying they are hard to find , maybe I should learn some openings finally
Levy showing true dedication, filming this in the middle of a jungle
Levy in the trenches of Vietnam enduring hostile fire but still filming chess videos
Glad to see Frank getting the respect and recognition he clearly deserves being mentioned in the same breath as Magnus and Hikaru.
yea
Why wouldn’t he be a top player, that man is goated
He learns super fast
lmao was thinking the same thing
facts
“Then they felt guilty so they stopped.” Not necessarily. Some cheaters stop on their own because they get bored of playing god, and the thrill of getting away with it wears off before the actual ban.
My guy didn't quit because he felt bad, he quit because he lost despite cheating and was incredibly frustrated. Rather than banning cheaters, sites should repeatedly pair them against stockfish fake accounts and let them grind out their own frustration until they rage quit.
The 5/6 people around the 1400 level who played him when he came back must’ve been so confused as to why the games were so easy
I'm around that level and it's wild, some games I feel like I'm beating up a toddler and other games are like Paul Morphy was reincarnated and taught how to use the internet.
They probably think they're beating some guys little sibling
@meekrab If you say youre advanced when youre making a brand new chess account you start at 1600, so youre playing either a "genuine" 1400 or stronger and just didnt put the effort to grind to a higher elo, or someone who thought was advanced and lost like 4 games in a row
Yeah. Especially the endgame. Some feel like I'm playing Martin who had 10 kids. And others feel like stockfish was behind the screen.
@@meekrab9027 yea I feel the same way. 1450 and I have runs where im like "dude, im a legit 1600-1700, these 1500s suck" and times where I have 90 move games to lose to like a 1300.
9:30 losing literally all 4 major pieces in 5 moves has to be some sort of accomplishment
It's nice Hans Treeman is there to help the chess speak for itself.
Best one
The plant should be named Robert.
16:22 man those are great players... especially the first name. Such an insipirational player. Taught me soo much.
Frank
2:43 He can't block the check because the King has already moved before Edit: I mixed things up. He *CAN* block but the reason you usually block early King checks is because you don't want to lose your right to castle, but since the King has already moved, they lose nothing by blocking the check, which is why moving the King was the top Engine move.
*he can block the check but he cannot castle
*they lose nothing by moving their king
Right and without that, there’s not about that first game that looks cheated to me… especially since they stalemated
The plant's name is Mr. Mime.
The plant behind levy really makes the video better
Stockfish is so innocent, hes like the kid everyone uses because of his smarts, but doesn't realise hes being used😂
Why are you giving human traits to strings of computer code? It isn’t “innocent” lmao
@@themostdiabolicalhater5986 because it's fun to do
human traits are "a specific characteristic of an individual." so he isnt wrong stop hating on a guy trying to be funny when you arent even making valid claims newgen
@@themostdiabolicalhater5986 some human traits include " Tongue Rolling Dimples Handedness. Freckles Curly hair Hand clasping Red/Green Colorblindness" what he said was a personality not a human trait stockfish dosent have any of those as you said he is strings of computer code. Loose goose was just trying to be funny when you ruined the joke.
@@semijazanimonska3967 jokes are “observations or anecdotes that elicit laughter or feelings of amusement” so his post couldn’t possibly be a joke because it isn’t funny or amusing Some examples of jokes include •you thinking I asked •you thinking I care •you •don’t ever reply to me lmao Actually that last one isn’t a joke
Plant should be named as THE ROOOOKKKKKK
is SUCK THE ROOOOOOOOOKKKKK
Moving the king from check against the bishop is top move because the king has already moved previously by taking the knight
I love watching these on the way to work but my commute is only 5 minutes so I always have to pause it for later
We need to see a video about Ding’s path to the world championship, starting with karjakins game that qualified him for the candidates, then a game of Ding vs one of the Chinese GMs during the 25 game in 30 days period, then his win against Hikaru to get 2nd in candidates, then finally game 4 of rapid against Ian. And of course plenty of storytelling in between each game
No please. It's so boring. And the entire journey has already been documented. Gotham made videos about those Ding's games in China before candidates.
I think this is a good idea. Ding’s journey to becoming the world champion is quite fascinating, and Gotham’s old video had more of a negative and depressing outlook on the situation whereas a new video would be refreshing.
Seconded, this would be a cool vid
Thirded
The stare was absolutely deadly today 10/10 Levi
you're ugly
(real)
@@fakepng1 ok fake png
That first game after he came back. What in the name of the chess gods was that. 😂😂🤣🤣 Hilarious
The king had already lost its right to castle in the first game
@2:50 ..Ke7 was the top move because black couldn’t castle. Black moved the King @2:17 and then moved it back to e8 @2:23. I love your content. I find it informative and entertaining, just thought I’d point that out.
Thank you Gotham. You taught me how to play chess and I went from stuck at 300 to now 820, still gaining, in just a month. I didn’t even know how to play until a month ago!! Thank you Levy ❤
2:40 Well, the computer also has a memory longer than 30 seconds, and remembers that black already lost castling permissions at 2:15 by capturing the knight that was trying to fork the queen and the rook, so it doesn't need to worry about that.
16:23 I’m glad you found Frank and finally realized that he is a gm
Yessir
came to find this comment
FYI, in that first game, the black king had already moved, so he had already lost his right to castle. I’m not totally convinced that he was cheating at all the first game. A lot of those moves seemed pretty natural. Capturing when able, moving pieces that are under attack, and I think they just didn’t see the stalemate.
As a 400 rated player, losing 20 points of material in 5 turns is rookie numbers. 💀
In times where everyone can install addons like "Chess-Assist for Chrome" its so annoying to play chess online. Someone needs to find a way to block these addons on the store.
How to actually cheat: Step 1. Call frank
a good name for your plant would be "B. secalinus" for the following reason: The common weed chess (B. secalinus), sometimes known as cheat or soft chess, is found along roadsides and in grain fields. i feel like it fits the theme of the video :)
Wow yeah thats really fitting ironically
FluffyTSG must have a wealth of knowledge o:
Cheaters are so dumb they can't figure out if they want to not cheat they should probably make a new account so they're playing in their own league.
That plant terrifies me, so I am calling it Audrey 2.
I love how he casually threw Frank up there with the two goats Lmao
I love how he put Hikaru up there with the two goats
I love how he put Magnus up there with two goats
I really wish he could do a lesson based off crazy computer moves and some themes that we can draw from “robot moves” that we can adopt ourselves
The problem with studying robot moves is that they're extremely hard to spot in practice and you have to be incredibly good at the game to even attempt.
kzhead.info/sun/fJSzocaHbWRopZ8/bejne.html Levy did a video about Magnus learning from alphazero but as others have said computers often make moves which no human would ever see except perhaps a super gm with enough time.
Yeah when stockfish does it, the analysis gives it a blue double exclam but when I do it it's red
I think the first game ended the way it did because the cheater stopped cheating after he got all of the opponent's pieces, and just to bm their opponent, they started to take all thr pawns with their rook. Then they took the last pawn with their rook without even considering it would be stalemate, because they're bad at chess
“I see a ficus or maybe a rubber tree plant”
Levy somehow turns shaming a cheater into a entertaining lesson I wish my teachers were like you
Ivy was such a welcome guest star, you should have her on more
Levy should 100% name the plant Grant. Grant the plant.
"black chokes on a fishbone" at 20:09 and "white butchers the knight" at 20:25 "the queen has been marrooned over here" at 21:15 had me dying for some reason lmfao
Name it Heckler so we can hear Levy attempt a plant-voice to heckle himself in real time
What’s funny to me is that levy didn’t realize that the king had to take the knight earlier therefor already lost the right to castle 😂
Exactly what im thinking
He was going to do a castle but not in one move
@@daleadebanjo9143 why castle in 1 move when you can castle in 4-5
Naming a plant and asking help for it, how New York 😂 love your video's
2:52 he already ost his right to castle since he took the knight before, so maybe someone could indeed move their king
Thanks for this useful guide! I will make sure to apply this in my games in the future. You are always an inspiration!
Hold up
Personally the reason why i enjoy watching chess cheater content is because it is essentially the same thing as watching an engine play. One of my favourite gothamchess series of videos are the "Alphazero VS Stockfish" videos. But not only do i get to see some chess played at such a high level that makes even Super GMs lose their minds, i also really like the fact that we get some comeuppance for people who cheat which just gives it that nice cherry on top at the end.
Your mic looks like a broken quick-time event UI input, and I can not focus on anything else. I'm supposed to be mashing or holding some button but I don't know which one.
2:42 - most normal people would probably recognize that you can’t castle anymore because you moved the king to take the night so playing pawn up is actually just pointless. Going up puts you into safety in your pawns and keeps momentum on your side. I’m 1000 and recognized this, cmon Levy
Cheating your way to a higher rank because you think you "deserve it." Then you basically can't compete on your own anymore because you're completely outclassed, so now you're cheating even more than you were before. I went down this road as well. Its a tough pill to swallow
That first game being stalemate for the cheater is so humiliating
at 2:44 you start talking about blocking the check instead of moving the king so he can castle still but him and the computer said move king best move. Thats because at 2:13 he took the f7 knight and had already ruined his castle
There's still one cheater I know and still not banned right now. And he even tries to put FIDE rating on his own profile to avoid suspicions. (because in my country there is no player who have that high rating)
2:46 They already lost the right to castle after Kxf7 (2:15).
You're right
Cheaters made me quit online chess. It's no fun getting hammered over and over and over by 900's playing like grandmasters.
Lian, which is a mixture of Liren and ian, while going incredibly well with the name Levy.
"Great players like Frank and Magnus and Hikaru"..😂 GothamChess - 2023
I asked ChatGPT for a suggestion on naming the plant and it suggested Caro-Kannopy. Seems fitting for you!
This
I'd prefer Leavy Rose-Man.
When someone is banned - do all of their opponents get their rating back?
bro, I didn't cheat, but I "quit" chess for like 9 months. I came back, and I lost like 90% of my games lel for like 30 games till i started winning some again and that's at around 800-1000 elo Imagine if i used to be 1500, I would've probably lost 100% of em
2:42, the king has already lost the right to castle because of the random knight sac on F7.
lets all give out respect to this guy how he uploads almost everyday with banger videos. My boomer dad was laughing at your videos 😂
"my boomer dad" jesus get a grip
@@dafuqmr13 haha
@Sniper lol
when ever i search up youtube it takes me to this
Plant name "THE ROOK!!!"
16:20 Not Levy casually throwing Frank in the top player list. 🤣
Ooooorrrr....the cheater took over for the last move and thought he could win on his own.
2:45 levy forgot the cheater already moved to f7 once. Incase people feel confused, you can only castle if there are no opponent pieces looking towards any of the squares that are in the castling space, there are no other pieces between the Rook and the King and that the king and the Rook did not move from their original square even once. Also you cannot castle if you are under check.
In the first game the guy already took the Knight on f7 with his king, therefore no castling.
16:22 Bro really thought he could sneak Magnus and Hikaru in with frank and we wouldn't notice
Levy name the plant Albert.
Levy constantly reminds me that I'm trash, but I'm still here for it 😂
2:45 also here you're not concerned about losing the ability to castle because the king has moved 7 moves prior.
2:46 he already lost his castling rights after taking the knight with his king
Let's name the plant "The Plant"
The plant shall be named Paul, Paul the Plant!
Jerold the plant just immediately came to mind
try catching a cheater who's like 2000+ legit, looks at avoids playing 1st, 2nd best lines unless they look very human, checks viability of sacrifices, intentionally miscalculates and loses to stronger players
4:07 I think he didn't even know that was a stalemate. He probably saw mate in 1 in evaluation bar and thought taking on the pawn on b5 was a mate with both Knight and Rook.
That would be so silly.. If Rook takes, the King is not in Check. If they see M1, they would probably do something that puts the King in Check like move the Knight. Hopefully lol Seems to me that they love to finish the game themselves to look less suspicious and feel accomplished, but they must've rushed that Rook move.. Or they just didn't think too much about it lol
@@snowarmth You've seen his gameplay he is 250 elo at best.
You inspired me to play for the first time in years. I lost, but I was sharp enough to spot a point where the opponent could've checkmated me but did'nt. Edit: I did 4 games and won 2 by time and resignation
Gg, king!
Getting violently beaten is crushing, so some can't take it and just want to do it to others I guess
I felt called out at the start (in a normal way). I like chess but i'm not amazing at a 470 ELO, however being 1300 in puzzles i'm still figuring out how it all REALLY works. Only played chess for about the last 3-4 weeks now but i'm having a good time
@@thrrock4371 i'll keep that in mind but i think alot of it is down in the difference in when i play puzzles there is no pressure on time and such. I notice my mid-game is usually off and end-game picks up alot of it (probably thanks to the puzzles)
We should name the plant Frank ❤
2:44 Levy forgets you cant castle after moving you king 💀💀
at this point you can name the plant magnus and everybody would understand :)
“Levy’s hair” would be the perfect name for the plant
I love how he included frank in his list if top players #weneedtoseefrankvsmagnus
It was so cool to see Magleaf Carlson reviewing chess with Levy
magleaf carlpot
You should be the one to name your plant, but if you insist I choose... Joseph.
In the first game black already moved the king so couldn't castle anymore anyway, but I would still block the check with the pawn yeah
name the plant “Daniel” because i think it is a good name